To be honest, I didn't understand why the series had such low ratings on Kinopoisk. For example, the same Fool has high grades, although both at School and in the Fool show the truth. Apparently, in the case of a Fool, they scold the authorities, and then they see themselves, who have recently graduated from school, and it becomes a shame.
Great show. Those people who criticize him are probably lucky - it means they had a great childhood at school and they don't know that this also happens. I graduated from high school almost 15 years ago, but everything that was shown in this series is completely clear and close to me. Unfortunately...
@dramma: I read this comment when I was on about 20 episodes, I was blown away and set out to watch the series carefully to understand if this is the case. And I didn't find any confirmations. What is the reason for it? The fact that Anya went to school for him, and he didn't love her in return? Nonsense. How is it possible to demand reciprocity from a person and be offended if he is not ready to give it? You won't be nice by force. The mutual fund is an ambiguous character, but he clearly should not carry the burden of responsibility for Nosova's death alone. And the end is normal. The karaoke scene shows that life goes on no matter what.
@funt7k: I sincerely don't understand about the incompleteness of the lines. Nosova brought her infatuation and paranoia to the point of absurdity, which ruined her. the whole series she was not given help, only sympathy or parting words. her old people realized that their overprotection ruined both Anya and her mother. Dyatlov became more confident in himself, began to express himself, stopped being a shadow. his father supported him. Emo (Thorn and Milanya) have not changed, remaining teenagers with a culture of suffering. Epifanov released his mother, forgave his aunt, finally freed himself from responsibility for others and began to take responsibility for himself. loves Budilova and makes her better, most likely, they will be together later. Budilova let go of the problem with her father and accepted her mother, realized that she was doing a lot of stupid things because she wanted to seem more mature. I started making my own decisions. Shishkova lost her temper and returned to her rut, Shutov remained a stupid teenager. Akhmametyeva finally learned to defend her opinion, realized that it was necessary to look for herself not in some society, but in her aspirations. she put her mother in her place. Kashtanskaya blossomed, found herself and stopped hiding her interests. opened Timur. Unfortunately, Kostya has not grown up yet. Falikov gave up drugs and took up music. Isaev realized that groupings were crap, gave up everything and decided to do his education, his family and brother, put his father in his place. Goryaev has found himself a girl to match, because they are both still teenagers, they are afraid of a lot, they will learn a lot. Dasha became self-confident and independent, got a normal friend.
Orlova abandoned all ties and was left alone, discovering a new life for herself. she broke up with her domineering husband, who gave her a good job at parting. The queens most likely got together and transferred their son to another school. The historian and the Englishwoman formed a family alliance, which forced him to stop being a quiet, cheerful bore, and her to pay attention to her own life, instead of digging into someone else's. The geographer got what he deserved, having lost his job. Murzenko began to understand children much better and to see the mistakes of adults, was able to competently dispose of power.
in general, all lines have their own completion. perhaps only the relationship of the Korolevs and the Mutual Fund with Budilova is in question, but it's not so bad to leave these events for our imagination.
ten years have passed, but it is still relevant and touching. except that now Anya Nosova could go and shoot half a school before killing herself. even if this is not in Anya's character, in the sense that this is the only thing that has been added. It's getting sadder somehow.
I sincerely do not understand why the ratings for this series are so low on Kinopoisk. I read the reviews, and they are almost all in the spirit: "but I ate in the morning, so there is no problem of hunger!" This series showed LIFE in its purest form. Apparently, some people didn't like this kind of life. I can say for myself that half of what was shown was at my school. There were bullying, booze, emo, and celebrities like Budilova. Sometimes it was unbearably hard to watch because it was too real. The actors just played incredibly, much better than the famous stars would have done. Sometimes they got so used to the role that they infuriated me with their behavior, which reminded me of my former classmates. I watched the ending with a lump in my throat. It's a strong series. There are hardly any more of them in Russian cinema
The series is very strong and very atmospheric. Yes, the shooting is cheap, yes, there are a lot of mistakes. But it is very deep and shows life as it is, evokes real emotions.. I admire the performance of the actresses who played Anya Nosova and the physics teacher. When Anya's grandparents cried first at home when they found out about the suicide, and then at the cemetery, I just couldn't help myself. My grandfather had strong words that his life had also come to an end with Anya's departure. Such an underrated series ... after watching some kind of feeling of emptiness inside, I'm very used to all the characters
What a strong series it is. Many problems of teenage life have been touched upon, I think everyone saw themselves or their friends in the characters. And I really like how believably the actors play! And even with such a strange shooting, camera positions and camera angles (you get used to the bad ones quickly) I like to watch and it's very addictive.
I started watching because I was bribed by this unrealistic vibe of that time. And in many things, starting from the conservatism and indifference of adults, and ending with subcultures, hangouts and maximalism of youth, one can really trace the very thing that one way or another the generation really went through. And how much pain was sometimes hidden behind it. It sometimes looked hard because of the camerawork (still, now this is considered a bad thing) and the fragmentary nature of the series, but when you look at it in one gulp, it doesn't really upset you. However, it starts as a teen Russian comedy in the spirit of Netflix, and ends with a really interesting drama, and then you don't just catch a vibe, but you just wonder how it will end, and what awaits them all next. After Suzdal, it was really difficult to break away from some daily chores.
The series was impressive. It is very unexpected and pleasant to realize this in the end.
@qrasnovangel: а что обычно просмотр сериала учит персонажей или как-то меняет их действия? ахахаха одна из причин в просмотре сериала - посмотреть со стороны на поступки и мысли людей, так если, по вашим же словам, сериал нас "чему-то и научит", то как уже можно называть это порцией говна? абсурдный и смехотворный аргумент ИМХО :DDD
@DariaCantodea: наверное мне нужно было выразиться точнее порция говна и тупикового настроения как раз в атмосфере самого сериала тк сказать общее впечатление
дружба физички и Даши хоть и кажется такой мимишной на экране, но на деле абсурд полный щас бы тёте 35+ бухать с 15 леткой в караоке, да ещё и о каких-то советах просить
@DariaCantodea: вряд ли у них получится крепкая дружба на века, это правда, но само по себе то, что они сблизились - не нонсенс. Физичка всё-таки очень молодится, в ней временами прямо заметна некоторая инфантильность, и Даша рядом вполне помогает ей чувствовать себя не старой и прогрессивной. Даша её не осуждает, не завидует ей, и для физички уже это - нормальное человеческое отношение. А Дашуля после токсичной дружбы с Будиловой, пассивно чморившей её вплоть до инцидента и не оценившей того, как "подруга" преодолела кризис и похорошела, встретила человека, который не хочет сиять на её фоне, уважает её и демонстрирует ей, что она важна, как раз тем самым отношением на равных. Они обе что-то друг другу всё-таки дают, что им нужно прямо сейчас.
Подкупает невероятная атмосфера 2000 и отлично переданная школьная суета, где все друг друга перебиваюь, кричат и т.п. В целом сериал очень жизненный для того времени. Сейчас, я думаю, обстановка в школах гораздо лучше, но в 2010 было именно так. Люблю раннюю Германику, много воспоминаний вызывает!
В мое время обучения в школе, к счастью, не было такого лютого треша. Из общего - у нас тоже были и изгои, и те, кто вечно их доставал, и глупые девочки-малолетки, решившие, что в 13 лет уже пора «повзрослеть». Но лично в моем классе все были +/- адекватными.
Странные чувства после просмотра сериала, мне будто бы не хватило эмоций от Дятлова, который был влюблен в Аню. Как по мне, реакция просто нулевая (?) и это странно.
Сериал выше всяких похвал. Вернул не в 2007, конечно, но в 2009. Смотрел залпом, лишь с перерывом на сон и не понимал почему я не посмотрел его при выходе, а после и вовсе забыл.
Не знаю почему все бесятся на операторскую работу, но меня она, напротив, только заставила больше погрузиться и никакого раздражения не вызывала. Ровно так же не понимаю претензий некоторых зрителей насчёт возраста актёров, ведь пока не нырнул в гугл, даже не задумывался, что далеко не всем из состава по 15.
Достоверность обстановки практически идеальная. Да, немногие могли себе позволить "кента" на постоянку. Да, пиву чаще предпочитали алкоэнергетики. Но это сущая мелочь, на мой взгляд. И это чуть ли не первый фильм про школьников и школу, который не вызывает у меня испанского стыда.
Про игру актёров могу высказаться строго положительно. Сцены, снятые одним дублем (а то и целые серии) вообще вызвали мысль об отсутствии какого-либо сценария — настолько веришь в естественность диалогов и происходящего. Хочется найти какие-нибудь бекстейджи и понять как это вообще снималось.
Спасибо какому-то блогеру за напоминание о сабже, пускай он его в своём материале и раскритиковал. Но привлёк внимание и явно показал, что мнения могут сильно разниться и во многих случаях лучше оценивать самому.
For Tsvetaeva's poems, a separate respect!
this is life, it is here that everything is shown as it really is.
I cried more than once, there was a residue on my soul, but it is necessary!
And the end is normal. The karaoke scene shows that life goes on no matter what.
Nosova brought her infatuation and paranoia to the point of absurdity, which ruined her. the whole series she was not given help, only sympathy or parting words. her old people realized that their overprotection ruined both Anya and her mother.
Dyatlov became more confident in himself, began to express himself, stopped being a shadow. his father supported him.
Emo (Thorn and Milanya) have not changed, remaining teenagers with a culture of suffering.
Epifanov released his mother, forgave his aunt, finally freed himself from responsibility for others and began to take responsibility for himself. loves Budilova and makes her better, most likely, they will be together later.
Budilova let go of the problem with her father and accepted her mother, realized that she was doing a lot of stupid things because she wanted to seem more mature. I started making my own decisions.
Shishkova lost her temper and returned to her rut, Shutov remained a stupid teenager.
Akhmametyeva finally learned to defend her opinion, realized that it was necessary to look for herself not in some society, but in her aspirations. she put her mother in her place.
Kashtanskaya blossomed, found herself and stopped hiding her interests. opened Timur.
Unfortunately, Kostya has not grown up yet. Falikov gave up drugs and took up music. Isaev realized that groupings were crap, gave up everything and decided to do his education, his family and brother, put his father in his place.
Goryaev has found himself a girl to match, because they are both still teenagers, they are afraid of a lot, they will learn a lot.
Dasha became self-confident and independent, got a normal friend.
Orlova abandoned all ties and was left alone, discovering a new life for herself. she broke up with her domineering husband, who gave her a good job at parting.
The queens most likely got together and transferred their son to another school.
The historian and the Englishwoman formed a family alliance, which forced him to stop being a quiet, cheerful bore, and her to pay attention to her own life, instead of digging into someone else's.
The geographer got what he deserved, having lost his job.
Murzenko began to understand children much better and to see the mistakes of adults, was able to competently dispose of power.
in general, all lines have their own completion. perhaps only the relationship of the Korolevs and the Mutual Fund with Budilova is in question, but it's not so bad to leave these events for our imagination.
even if this is not in Anya's character, in the sense that this is the only thing that has been added. It's getting sadder somehow.
I read the reviews, and they are almost all in the spirit: "but I ate in the morning, so there is no problem of hunger!"
This series showed LIFE in its purest form. Apparently, some people didn't like this kind of life. I can say for myself that half of what was shown was at my school. There were bullying, booze, emo, and celebrities like Budilova.
Sometimes it was unbearably hard to watch because it was too real. The actors just played incredibly, much better than the famous stars would have done. Sometimes they got so used to the role that they infuriated me with their behavior, which reminded me of my former classmates.
I watched the ending with a lump in my throat. It's a strong series. There are hardly any more of them in Russian cinema
Such an underrated series ...
after watching some kind of feeling of emptiness inside, I'm very used to all the characters
The series was impressive. It is very unexpected and pleasant to realize this in the end.
одна из причин в просмотре сериала - посмотреть со стороны на поступки и мысли людей, так если, по вашим же словам, сериал нас "чему-то и научит", то как уже можно называть это порцией говна?
абсурдный и смехотворный аргумент
ИМХО :DDD
порция говна и тупикового настроения как раз в атмосфере самого сериала
тк сказать общее впечатление
щас бы тёте 35+ бухать с 15 леткой в караоке, да ещё и о каких-то советах просить
А Дашуля после токсичной дружбы с Будиловой, пассивно чморившей её вплоть до инцидента и не оценившей того, как "подруга" преодолела кризис и похорошела, встретила человека, который не хочет сиять на её фоне, уважает её и демонстрирует ей, что она важна, как раз тем самым отношением на равных. Они обе что-то друг другу всё-таки дают, что им нужно прямо сейчас.
Странные чувства после просмотра сериала, мне будто бы не хватило эмоций от Дятлова, который был влюблен в Аню. Как по мне, реакция просто нулевая (?) и это странно.
Сериал выше всяких похвал. Вернул не в 2007, конечно, но в 2009. Смотрел залпом, лишь с перерывом на сон и не понимал почему я не посмотрел его при выходе, а после и вовсе забыл.
Не знаю почему все бесятся на операторскую работу, но меня она, напротив, только заставила больше погрузиться и никакого раздражения не вызывала. Ровно так же не понимаю претензий некоторых зрителей насчёт возраста актёров, ведь пока не нырнул в гугл, даже не задумывался, что далеко не всем из состава по 15.
Достоверность обстановки практически идеальная. Да, немногие могли себе позволить "кента" на постоянку. Да, пиву чаще предпочитали алкоэнергетики. Но это сущая мелочь, на мой взгляд. И это чуть ли не первый фильм про школьников и школу, который не вызывает у меня испанского стыда.
Про игру актёров могу высказаться строго положительно. Сцены, снятые одним дублем (а то и целые серии) вообще вызвали мысль об отсутствии какого-либо сценария — настолько веришь в естественность диалогов и происходящего. Хочется найти какие-нибудь бекстейджи и понять как это вообще снималось.
Спасибо какому-то блогеру за напоминание о сабже, пускай он его в своём материале и раскритиковал. Но привлёк внимание и явно показал, что мнения могут сильно разниться и во многих случаях лучше оценивать самому.