Monica in this series is just like a typical dumb woman: she says you can save money at any time, so why didn't she save anything for her wedding by the age of 30, which she dreamed of since childhood? What kind of money should I shake with my parents? damn it, Chandler's opinion does not matter, neither with the question of roses / lilies, nor with the cat / dog. And Chandler is a good girl! he does not think about spending on some useless one wedding day, but he thinks about the future, once again proves that men are more adequate than chicks for the most part (Ross tries to prove the opposite)
@ShaneRay: I agree. Here we were shown an irrational Monica. I do not believe that she would put the wedding above the future, i.e. the children she wants so much. In general, Chandler is handsome, and Monica, as always, pushes him around.
@ShaneRay: actually, it's customary for Americans - most of the wedding costs are borne by the bride's parents, because this is like the last time they pay for it, then it's the husband's responsibility. The groom pays for the certification of the marriage, rings and other small things.
As I understand it, there is a tradition in America that parents pay for a wedding. She was asking about Monica's wedding fund, so her parents were putting it off.
The series is very sweet and I'm happy for them, blah, blah, blah, but AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO'S ON FIRE BECAUSE JOE CRAWLED OFF HIS SHOE AND UNDER THE COVERS ON THE BED?!
On the one hand, they can be understood. Many Americans, in principle, do not go outside. Here is the routine of a classic office worker in America: — I woke up, got dressed, went to the garage, took a car, went to work; — arrived at the office, in an underground or covered parking lot, got out of the car, jumped into the elevator, at work; — I finished my work. Need to go to the Store? I took the elevator down to the garage, got in the car, went to the mall, there's an underground or covered parking.; — I threw my purchases in the trunk, jumped into a car, and drove home. What's at home? Garage. In this chain, a person has never stepped on the ground or street asphalt with his snow-white sneakers. And since they regularly carry out wet cleaning in buildings and parking lots, often with soap, such an American seriously believes that he lives in a sterile world and never takes off his sneakers at all. By the way, in the USA, sneakers are the most popular shoes, and they wear them in any fucking weather. There are even those who, just walking along the streets, actively visiting parks and other public places, also fall into their own or friends' shoes. From such morons, even the most restrained people's backside burns out. Fools think that if the streets are washed, it means it's clean. Naturally, I talked to a couple of these guys. He explained that they could spit and piss in the parking lot. To which they retort: "That's how they wash it." After my counterattack, in the form of: "well, now imagine how much dirt and germs all your cars bring directly to the parking lot, since you obviously don't wash the wheels," some fell into a hard stupor, apparently, I brazenly destroyed their pink and clean world. By the way, my American friend is one of those who takes off his shoes. But his father and older brothers, according to him, do not like to do this, and he fucked up explaining to them that he does not like it when people walk around his house in shoes. So far he's talking, unsuccessfully.
I'm reviewing the series for the nth time and noticed this time that Monica is very encouraging, who in her irrepressible desire to get married no longer sees the shore at all. One minute she gets down on one knee and makes an offer, then "her fire was blown out," then all Chandler's money needs to be spent on the wedding of her dreams. In my youth, the first time I watched these episodes (and in subsequent ones too) this inadequacy of Monica didn't catch my eye so much))) Or it was just perceived as her cute feature. It doesn't seem that way anymore. The scene with the proposal caused not emotion, but a gag reflex, her psychosis about "fire" - the desire to send her away (if I were Rachel, I would have done so), and for the way she manages money - to spend everything that has been accumulating for years, really at a party for strangers - I would I actually knocked her on the pumpkin. I would be glad that at least someone asked her to get married, with her cockroaches. That's how my least favorite character in my favorite TV series would be)) Probably, I just imagined myself in Chandler's place - saving money is not so easy, but some fool will spend all the money on bullshit in one fell swoop. In this sense, I'm starting to understand men)))
@LUXEON: There are just girls and women who are obsessed with wedding paraphernalia. Who since early childhood dream of a white dress and veil, and the ceremony itself. To have a cake, a limo, and everything as it should be. And they seriously believe that a wedding is the most important day in their lives! 10 years after the wedding, they still have wedding photos on all avatars and on all social networks. They review wedding albums over and over again, year after year. And they like to talk about weddings, their own and others', chewing over all the details over and over again. It feels like the meaning of their whole life was in that one day, and when it was over, life ended, and they stayed in that day. And they really regret that they can't get married over and over again every year (although some people do). This is some kind of stupid superficiality, a love of external tinsel, and it really pisses me off. Both real girls and Monica))
By the way, when I got to the end of the season, I remembered that it had been a long time since bird and duck had flashed in the frame. Yes, this is the last episode in which they were mentioned during their lifetime.
Spending the money you've accumulated over SIX YEARS on a fucking wedding? OK, okay, it's a matter of priorities, I'd rather spend on travel then. But the disregard for Chandler's opinion, including in this matter, is somehow completely gone. Although it's not surprising if Monica doesn't behave very inappropriately from time to time.
I'm watching it fully for the second time, and this situation pisses me off even more than the first time. Monica doesn't deserve Chandler. Generally, as characters, Phoebe and Monica have deteriorated over time. I don't talk about Ross at all, he pisses me off more and more with each episode. Only Joe and Chandler were good and stayed that way. Chandler is just perfect, and Joe is sincere and helpful, I love them.
I don't understand the general outrage about Monica's behavior a bit. Yes, she acted infantile, reckless and selfish at the beginning of the episode. But knowing how her character is exaggerated in the series (and not only her), I think it was possible to understand why she says and does that. But the most important thing is not that, but that the character is developing and she has rethought and understood her childhood desires and thoughtless desires./accepted Chandler's position. She was ready to give up a luxurious dream wedding for the sake of her partner's love and happiness, compromise/give in (and she loves to be right). It's just that in the end, Chandler insisted on the opposite. I think it's important to see the real inside of the character behind the whole facade of exaggerated behavior and overblown problems. This series did not even entail any consequences from reckless spending. So if they're both happy with this decision, why should the viewer care?
Discussion: Season 7, Episode 2 Join the Discussion
60Here is the routine of a classic office worker in America:
— I woke up, got dressed, went to the garage, took a car, went to work;
— arrived at the office, in an underground or covered parking lot, got out of the car, jumped into the elevator, at work;
— I finished my work. Need to go to the Store? I took the elevator down to the garage, got in the car, went to the mall, there's an underground or covered parking.;
— I threw my purchases in the trunk, jumped into a car, and drove home. What's at home? Garage.
In this chain, a person has never stepped on the ground or street asphalt with his snow-white sneakers. And since they regularly carry out wet cleaning in buildings and parking lots, often with soap, such an American seriously believes that he lives in a sterile world and never takes off his sneakers at all. By the way, in the USA, sneakers are the most popular shoes, and they wear them in any fucking weather.
There are even those who, just walking along the streets, actively visiting parks and other public places, also fall into their own or friends' shoes. From such morons, even the most restrained people's backside burns out. Fools think that if the streets are washed, it means it's clean.
Naturally, I talked to a couple of these guys. He explained that they could spit and piss in the parking lot. To which they retort: "That's how they wash it." After my counterattack, in the form of: "well, now imagine how much dirt and germs all your cars bring directly to the parking lot, since you obviously don't wash the wheels," some fell into a hard stupor, apparently, I brazenly destroyed their pink and clean world.
By the way, my American friend is one of those who takes off his shoes. But his father and older brothers, according to him, do not like to do this, and he fucked up explaining to them that he does not like it when people walk around his house in shoes. So far he's talking, unsuccessfully.
In my youth, the first time I watched these episodes (and in subsequent ones too) this inadequacy of Monica didn't catch my eye so much))) Or it was just perceived as her cute feature. It doesn't seem that way anymore. The scene with the proposal caused not emotion, but a gag reflex, her psychosis about "fire" - the desire to send her away (if I were Rachel, I would have done so), and for the way she manages money - to spend everything that has been accumulating for years, really at a party for strangers - I would I actually knocked her on the pumpkin.
I would be glad that at least someone asked her to get married, with her cockroaches. That's how my least favorite character in my favorite TV series would be))
Probably, I just imagined myself in Chandler's place - saving money is not so easy, but some fool will spend all the money on bullshit in one fell swoop. In this sense, I'm starting to understand men)))
It's like she doesn't care about anyone but herself all the time.
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Generally, as characters, Phoebe and Monica have deteriorated over time. I don't talk about Ross at all, he pisses me off more and more with each episode. Only Joe and Chandler were good and stayed that way. Chandler is just perfect, and Joe is sincere and helpful, I love them.
You should have taken a loan, well.
You can cry here
- I don't want to, I'm scared.
— Yeah, because the first copy got disheveled when we were together.
My compliments 🤝
I think it's important to see the real inside of the character behind the whole facade of exaggerated behavior and overblown problems. This series did not even entail any consequences from reckless spending. So if they're both happy with this decision, why should the viewer care?
Porn in the book is about =)