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Duration: 48 min.
Released: 29.08.201129.08.2011 21:00
Watched by: 5 14790.33%
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s01e09 - Серия 09

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amilenova
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17 Jul 2016, 03:33 #
there is too much drama at the end of the series. The first episode on 4 for the Russian TV series.
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Helga_Baker
Helga_Baker
08 Jan 2022, 23:08 #
@amilenova: the drama is exactly the same as it was in the first episode of the original. Copied
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Babylon
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19 Nov 2023, 09:40 #
What is the point in making a Russian tracing paper from the series instead of showing a good Spanish original? Moreover, a one hundred percent photocopy, down to specific replicas — I started a TV broadcast in parallel with the Spanish first series and they went synchronously, almost in chorus ... The spectacle is of course a little psychedelic - to see the same thing, word for word, movement for movement, but performed by different people. But this fun gets boring quickly. We have some kind of mania to copy everything and everything, and our ideas, except for the cops who have filled their teeth, are absent as a class.

For those who have already watched all the seasons of the original, in my opinion it makes no sense to watch all the same, but in a worse performance. Those who have not watched the original and are watching the Russian version "from scratch", all the more it is worth starting to watch the original "from scratch" - if you like even our pale copy, imagine how much pleasure you will get from the full-blooded original.
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Babylon
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19 Nov 2023, 09:41 #
In the Russian version, we received an almost verbatim copy of the Spanish series, but:

1. Minus the beautiful actors (the most striking examples are Zhang and Kabano, you will see what they have turned into in the Russian version. Or Ruth compare with Rita). Moreover, Kabano will even have storylines where the fact that he is one of the most beautiful guys in school will be played out, how they will copy these plots in relation to our nondescript Kabanov is unclear.

2. Minus a good acting game (well, this is a common problem of almost all Russian TV series). Many simply overplay, while others, on the contrary, memorize their lines. It is especially unpleasant to watch how some of our actors, having probably watched the Spanish original, try to imitate the facial expressions and manners of the original Spanish heroes, that's just imitation is imitation, and our diligently bulging eyes and grimacing Belova to charming naivety and spontaneity of the Blank as to the moon on foot.

3. Minus a lot of good songs and musical accompaniment. Download the soundtrack to the Spanish version and make sure. And what about us? "Tell me how to live" and that's it?

And why is all this, I ask? Only those who have not seen the Spanish original source can praise the Russian version. People like the characters, like the plot, like the topics raised - but this is exactly what remains of the original in the Russian copy. And now look at all this only in the original source, and not in the retelling. All the (undoubted) advantages of our version are someone else's.
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Babylon
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19 Nov 2023, 09:41 #
Especially amusing in the series "under license" is that foreign realities, like it or not, the creators have to transfer to the Russian soil head-on. So there are poor Russian shoe sellers living in duplex apartments, and other heresy. So here, in the very first episode, we see the laundry that is drying on the roof of a simple city high-rise building (?!), tables standing there and blooming flowers. Well, ahead of us, respectively, if anyone remembers the Spanish version, there should be pools in the courtyards of city houses and poor Russian families living in their own cottages in the city. Mother Russia…

Yes, I know that such a practice (filming copies of TV series under license) exists, but in my opinion this is a vicious practice, especially since domestic TV people are generally hooked on it like a needle. And it is vicious because such a stupid copying of the series one-on-one with the transfer of action from one country to another destroys the integrity of the series. Different countries – different mentality, different people, different lives. You can't just say that Madrid will become Moscow, there was a college, Zurbaran will become Gymnasium No. 40 – and everything–everything-everything else will remain the same. Various nuances here and there, events, scenes, storylines that looked appropriate in the original, will look strange or funny in the alteration, and will no longer convey the thoughts and emotions that the creators originally laid in them. And I also say this in general about the very concept of copying, without touching on the quality of the copy, implying that the copy is executed at the level of the original. (which is not the case in this particular case).
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Babylon
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19 Nov 2023, 09:42 #
In the original, seventeen-year-olds are honestly played by seventeen-year-olds. Perhaps this is one of the reasons why you believe them. And for some reason, our young schoolchildren are portrayed by twenty-five-year-old men who have come not only from school, but even from student age. It's very noticeable, and it looks just ridiculous. Were there any younger actors? If the series had lasted at least a few seasons, they would have been under thirty, even Harry Potter is resting here. And in the "School" it was the same, is this a common problem in Russia? Either they are afraid to attract teenagers to such productions, or it is impossible, or we simply do not have talented teenagers. The Russian version of Paula (Masha) looks wild in general, an adult girl made up to look like a girl, these are already techniques from filming porn. In places, the series looks like a parody of some "Big Difference". In Spanish "Physics" everything is fair: teenagers are teenagers, adults are adults. And we have overage graduates of VGIK diligently portray children, from which the whole atmosphere is destroyed. Are you aware that in our version some "schoolchildren" are older than "teachers" by several years?
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Babylon
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19 Nov 2023, 09:42 #
The Russian incarnation of the Fera storyline, and then Fera with David, even in 2011 was doomed to failure, I'm not talking about the current realities, where an article simply shines for such a thing. The image of an openly gay schoolboy, who is known and treated by almost everyone around him, teachers, classmates, and parents, are completely calm and friendly, is quite appropriate in Europe, but in Russian realities it looks at the level of silly fiction. And judging by the filmed episodes, the license conditions of the STS were quite strict, a step to the left, a step to the right — shooting, so it looks like they were going to embody everything as it is. And if you embody everything as it is, then there is a second point — I can't imagine how two passionately kissing beautiful half-naked guys would be shown on the central channel in prime time in a country with a sky-high level of homophobia. Even in 2011. So it seems to me that the series, if it had continued, would have been mercilessly censored and deformed to a toothless state. But our copy simply did not live up to the moment when Fer came to the fore. Of course, it was very brave of the STS to show the whole of Russia a beautiful and long love story of two seventeen-year-old boys, but I immediately had big doubts about the success of this event.

However, it seems to me that in our performance this story would look pathetic anyway. First of all, the selection of actors, as I have already said. The image of Fer is already filled up, if the same would be picked up for the role of David, then that's it. Secondly, our mentality is different in order to reliably play it all.
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Babylon
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19 Nov 2023, 09:42 #
The game of the creators with the names amused me: Irena — Irina, Yoli — Julia, Ruth — Rita, Olympia — Olga (you can also call Ollie), Kova — Kira Kovaleva, Fer — Fedor (Goblin remembered, no other way), Blanca - Belova, and especially the fact that the Hill in the Russian version ... too Slide. As they say, he is a Hill in Africa and a Hill! :) Jonathan, a physical education teacher who had Mexican roots, turned into Zhenya in the Russian version, and Mexico in Russian realities seems to have turned into Armenia (his last name is Zakoyan). In general, at least they showed some wit here.

Russian Russian tracing paper If you liked the first series, then I strongly advise you to start watching the original right away, since it is available on the Internet with Russian voice acting. After all, you will still reach the end of the story in the first season, and those who want to know what happened next (and then there were six more seasons!) will still have to switch to the Spanish primary source.

To sum up, Physics or Chemistry is a good series, but our version is a copy, imitation, and imitation is very weak, and the original is the original, and believe me, it is much better. Yes, it will be interesting to watch the Russian version anyway, I promise you that, because it is based on the same wonderful plot and the same living characters as in the original - this is the only thing that our people have left unchanged, and this cannot be taken away from the series. But our version is noticeably inferior in performance, especially in terms of actors and their performance, so I see no reason to abandon the Spanish version in favor of ours - this only steals impressions and pleasure from yourself.

In general, why it was necessary to "reinvent the wheel" is unclear.
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