I watched the trailer for the series... oh, you hedgehog, I wish I could spit in the face of the screenwriters...well, it's just a crandet, not only did the actress introduce another one, it's not logical, as if in Santa Barbara, well, maybe it was to introduce a new actress ala "it's been a while" and here they say "the dress is too, but the person is already different" so they don't even mess with the hair color. Well, it's not like that....there was a blonde who became a brunette....the dress remained the main thing too, but what, then the dress was changed to a heap..... + I'm silent that the actress does not look at all in Akhmet, she's like his aunt. Nastya was such a young sweet girl, and this lady.... + Nastya stood out in the handicap of the rest with an appearance specific to the Turks, and this one is just one of them....
kapets kapets kapets, well, I'll repeat this series...but I feel like I don't want to look any further.
The screenwriter is not very good, and this is understandable, because the screenwriter who was in 3/4 century died ((( but here, past the loser of the screenwriter, it's also such a horror with actiras...
I wish that the ratings of AV (or whatever channel decided to enter it faster because the ratings are falling) fell to the very bottom!!!!!!
Well, I watched the first episode with Kesem! Kapets, it turns out that some eunuch gave her a name))) it's not romantic somehow) "Named Ahmed" somehow sounds more beautiful)
Well, now about the sad part...replacement of actresses. Well, all I think about is that the actress is completely off topic after the first Anastasia, I have already voiced above. Now I will speak in general. I had nothing against Beret before, I didn't even know her, not now, having already watched the series. As before, I have complaints only about screenwriters and directors. When I watch a similar series, about how a simple girl got into a certain situation, and there she changes, under the influence of others, the so-called character growth occurs, we see this as a gorgeous rose blooms from a small flower, and this is one of the most interesting transformations of series of this genre. The actress gets to play a role of 2a different characters and that's what's interesting to watch. What did they give us? A pig)) in one word. Instead of giving us an actress who will play a small flower and grow into a gorgeous rose before our eyes, we were stupidly shown a gentle sweet daisy at first, and then they show a rose. What? why??? I want to see a small green rosebud that has not opened, which will grow into a gorgeous rose before my eyes. I don't want to see 2a different flowers. I want to see ONE flower grow from embryo to maturity. And this is a classic of this genre, especially since it is the MAIN CHARACTER! We were just shown 2 different people, with different habits, characters, appearance!!! even the color of the hair, but with one, roughly speaking, name (name). WE were not shown the most interesting thing - the GROWTH of the character, this is both outraging and annoying, and it does not matter who plays better - Anastasia or Beret, it is important that these are 2 different people, and they play the heroine in different ways.
It was not immediately clear to me why two actresses were taking on the main role. it was possible to use makeup, but in other TV series they do it somehow. they look very different
@Inokanoana: so even on the wiki it is indicated, in fact, 4 actresses were originally planned, the first girl who was very small in the promo video was originally planned, but since she would have to go to bed with the sultan, they did not show such horror, and allegedly 14-year-olds were played by older actors
the creators messed with the actresses, the very first actress is Greek, and the second is of Turkish nationality, so she does not stand out among others
I like the new actress, she plays much better. BUT: they replaced it "head-on", so to speak. You turn on the seventh episode, and there's a bang – a new face.
But in general, the series is terribly stretched, the series last a very long time, and in the series the plot lasts for a long time, too, like rubber teeth. Ahmed was lying with smallpox for almost two series (for the first time in the Ottoman chronicle, two people survived from smallpox at once, and no one got infected from them, it's a miracle what!), patience is already lacking. The screenwriters, in comparison with BB, here really do not know what to come up with, as a result, the miracles are wonderful and the absurdities are absurd.
@Inokanoana: Yes? I missed something. I only remember that someone somehow died before the illness of Akhmet and Mustafa, when everyone realized that it was smallpox, not poisoning.
By the way, I look at Beren and realize that the actress is also not pulling the role. Especially when you remember the actresses Mahidevran and the young Hurrem, they played very brightly and well. And then somehow the look clings hard, Beren often fakes or does not show proper emotions, which is why the quality of the game pulls more on Brazilian something.
@LBlack: then the servant died, and then someone else. Regarding the game, Beren plays great, if you understand that Kesem should be so cold and not particularly emotional.
@Inokanoana: I have a dissonance now. The previous actress was very emotional and violent, there was even a moment in the series when she was compared to a lion. And then, when she was replaced by the "restrained" Kesem, I stopped understanding the character at all. I got the impression that one actress was overplaying, the other was underplaying :)
I also found it incomprehensible to replace the actress... It was possible to find at least remotely similar to Anastasia. Maybe someone will explain to me the dialogue about 19 coffins, in which one was empty. I didn't quite understand what kind of adventure Sofia Sultan had.
About 19 grabs. She saved her son when he was still young and gave him to another family, but he disappeared. There was a reason why they showed the caftan of this Alexander's janissary. And they said his family was influential. This is probably what he is
Of course, it is a pity that Anastasia was removed first. Although she wasn't great at acting, she was right for the role. The new girl plays well, so you can get used to it
Here they are perplexed by the abrupt replacement of the actress. Everything is quite trivial: The series had catastrophically low ratings, and an unknown Greek actress was prematurely replaced by the very famous and popular Beren Saat in Turkey. For us, she is "just another Turkish woman," and there she is a star, and the producers tried to save the series from collapse in this way. In general, this replacement was originally planned, but only somewhere in the 10th episode, in a more logical place, but the ratings were falling and the producers made such a feint with their ears. It looks strange, of course, but yes, this is already a common thing in Velvek.
It would certainly be more logical to replace it a little later. Well, since that's how it turned out, that's fine. I didn't like that young one with her eternal grimace and crooked mouth. This one looks more like a sultana at least.
I quit! Well, I couldn't. The time has become a pity. The replacement of the actress is wild. My eye was already twitching from the inconsistency. I'm not comparing, but there's very little dynamics compared to BB. I'm the only one who thinks that the scenes are too long, I just want to rewind these dialogues. The storyline of Nastya and Ahmed is very small. There are few of them: there are few of their dialogues, action, events, there is no dynamism. The story is little revealed, the garden is not shown at all, as they walk. And so on, well, here I find fault)))) Hurrem - she was a beauty herself, it was just nice to look at her. Here I did not understand at all, the main character is as beautiful as all the actors. No different from any concubine. Moreover, Sofia seems to me even more refined and beautiful. Hurrem wasn't just the same, she was exceptional! Such an appearance. In order for the series to be a success after BB, it was necessary to spin something straight wow. And this is far from wow. I quit. Although I love BB with all my heart.
Anastasia is no more, there is Kesem, so the actress was replaced. She became older and smarter, and began to speak Turkish better. Everything is logical, I don't understand people who didn't like the replacement and ask why it was replaced
Yes, it was elementary to find a more similar actress. The former actress looked more harmonious, more gentle and innocent, but this is really a typical concubine 🤷🏽♀️
I like Anastasia as a character, but the actress often overplayed and was completely unreliable. And Beren, it seems to me, copes quite well, in some of her manners, intonations, gestures, it is the former Anastasia who is clearly audible. Which was not the case, for example, with the two Hurrems, they were completely different, but here Beren tried and the continuity was better. Of course, the time of the actress's change leaves much to be desired, I thought Beren would appear after the birth of at least her first child, when she would already be sultan, but the ratings explain a lot. And it seems to me that the creators initially deliberately went to work with several actresses, including because of the situation with Meryem Uzerli, who literally almost ruined the previous BB with her departure. And so they immediately announced the changes of actresses, hedged their bets and, suddenly, at the right moment they can always turn the script a little and replace any irreplaceable one without much effort. Of course, it looks funny how the speech of some concubine, whom no one would have let out into the street to a crowd of men and would not have listened to, stopped the whole uprising, but at least she was doing something, and not like the others, just running around and screaming: "We're all going to die, we're all going to die!" The sudden conversion to Islam is even funnier. Although I am pleased with the creators' efforts to avoid the same type of plot twists as much as possible. To my taste, they look quite decent with Ahmed, but their love line does not cause any special interest or trust. Kesem is supposedly so in love, so in love, and why would she suddenly? Well okay. But there is much more politics, history and side lines here than in the history of Hurrem, which upsets some, but pleases me. The Lord's beard is so poor, it would be better if he were still a beardless youth. Aaaaaah, the hidden shehzade, well, what are you doing? >< You would have invented the Sultan's twin >< And so the only candidate, when they said about it, was Iskender, and when he was shown so closely so many times, so in general...
Mehmed Giray got mad. So, when he accepted Safiye's offer and claimed the throne bypassing his brother, although he knew perfectly well that this was his dream, and he always shouted how he didn't need anything, so this is a common thing. And as Shahin found support for himself, without killing his brother or something like that, he is the last bastard who dared to play against his brother. Well, the normal alignment. Ahmed was pleased with his decisive actions. Gireyev went to prison, Pasha resigned, did not stand on ceremony. Only she can't cope with her grandmother in any way, damn, she seems to be sending her away, but she's been here and here for as long as possible.
I am very glad that the actress was replaced) the game of young Anastasia was wildly freezing. I wanted to watch the series even more without her participation
Such a dissonance happened from the naive crooked Nastya with a split lip, who is always running and whining to such a self-confident, cold, beautiful Kesem. I haven't got used to it yet, and yes, it's so strange when the replacement of actis with completely opposite ones is like to understand forgive you haven't seen it.
I liked the replacement of the actress. Maybe it's a bad time for this, but it's become a hundred times easier to watch. I didn't like the last one in this role at all, I couldn't immerse myself in the story because of this, but now it's easier to breathe. It could have been done more elegantly, but that's how it turned out. Moreover, for all the following episodes, he will have time to forget the original actress in the role of Kesem a hundred times.
1. I was really looking forward to replacing the actress, because the previous one was completely unbearable, did not arouse sympathy at all and played terribly. but! Why was it so illogically replaced? In fact, you just blinked, and there's another person in front of you. It would be more logical to replace it if the action in the series unfolded "a few months / years later." With hair color generally fail. If you originally planned to replace a dark-haired woman, why not take on a young Anastasia, too, dark-haired? 2. The feeling of humiliation when Anastasia came out in front of the rioters and they even started listening to her, despite the fact that she is basically nobody. Listening to Safie or the same Hurrem in such a situation is logical, they have made a name for themselves, everyone knows them. Listening to some unknown girl from the harem is strange and unrealistic. 3. What is Santa Barbara with Safie's surviving son? And, of course, by coincidence, this son turned out to be Alexander/Iskander... Well, I'm just speechless. It is immediately clear that the screenwriter of this series and the screenwriter of BB are completely different people.
It took me a long time to move away from the tedium of the previous series, and this one turned out to be even more boring. Probably the most important event was the sudden replacement of the actress. I have a kind of deja vu, as if I returned to the 90s, I was waiting for a loud voice to say "The role of Anastasia From this series/Mahpaker will be performed by actress Beren Saat") The line with the secretly rescued shehzade seems frankly primitive. At least half of the series of intrigue was held, but no - Safie and Bulbul's memories of the hidden boy are immediately followed by Iskander's story, from which it immediately becomes clear that he is the same boy. Sultan was also visually impaired by the disease... Or it's because of the facial hair... In short, the idea is frankly unsuccessful. He immediately reminded me of a character who has been walking around for several months with the same five-day stubble on his face. Although wait, maybe with this sudden stubble, the screenwriters are hinting to us that the smallpox left traces on Ahmed's face, the emerging beard supposedly covers the scars? But Mehmed is the perfect match for Fahriye! She was ready to kill her nephews, and he didn't stand on ceremony with his brother, except that his conscience tormented him a little longer. But then they let it go, because everything is for the sake of a noble goal, for the sake of love! And not like Shahin, he has nothing but sultan's ambitions! Sarcasm, if anything.
A very unexpected turn with the change of actresses. I thought there was something wrong with my head, then we looked at the truth. I don't understand why you should do it so head-on, given that they are two different girls by type.
Обожаю Берен ещё со времён "Запретной любви", поэтому для меня эта замена, как подарок!!! Самым неприятным персонажем для меня в этом сериале является Фахрие, просто тошнит от ее физиономии! А Ахмед прямо возмужал после болезни, быстренько со всеми разобрался, уверена, что и для Сафие он уже что-нибудь придумал! Дервиш-шикарный мужик, не понимаю, что он нашел в этой Хандан, как по мне ему Халиме очень бы подошла...огненная парочка из них бы вышла, а Хандан, как говорится, вообще "ни рыба ни мясо".
Я, конечно, привыкну к новой Анастасии, но это очень разочаровывает... Она хотя бы как-то выделялась.. Блонда заложила уже образ персонажа Анастасии, а Берен не сможет его продолжить. Serialo_wo_man правильно говорит, хочется видеть развитие персонажа, а не замену актрис..
oh, you hedgehog, I wish I could spit in the face of the screenwriters...well, it's just a crandet, not only did the actress introduce another one, it's not logical, as if in Santa Barbara, well, maybe it was to introduce a new actress ala "it's been a while" and here they say "the dress is too, but the person is already different" so they don't even mess with the hair color. Well, it's not like that....there was a blonde who became a brunette....the dress remained the main thing too, but what, then the dress was changed to a heap.....
+ I'm silent that the actress does not look at all in Akhmet, she's like his aunt. Nastya was such a young sweet girl, and this lady....
+ Nastya stood out in the handicap of the rest with an appearance specific to the Turks, and this one is just one of them....
kapets kapets kapets, well, I'll repeat this series...but I feel like I don't want to look any further.
The screenwriter is not very good, and this is understandable, because the screenwriter who was in 3/4 century died ((( but here, past the loser of the screenwriter, it's also such a horror with actiras...
I wish that the ratings of AV (or whatever channel decided to enter it faster because the ratings are falling) fell to the very bottom!!!!!!
Kapets, it turns out that some eunuch gave her a name))) it's not romantic somehow) "Named Ahmed" somehow sounds more beautiful)
Well, now about the sad part...replacement of actresses.
Well, all I think about is that the actress is completely off topic after the first Anastasia, I have already voiced above. Now I will speak in general.
I had nothing against Beret before, I didn't even know her, not now, having already watched the series.
As before, I have complaints only about screenwriters and directors.
When I watch a similar series, about how a simple girl got into a certain situation, and there she changes, under the influence of others, the so-called character growth occurs, we see this as a gorgeous rose blooms from a small flower, and this is one of the most interesting transformations of series of this genre. The actress gets to play a role of 2a different characters and that's what's interesting to watch.
What did they give us? A pig)) in one word.
Instead of giving us an actress who will play a small flower and grow into a gorgeous rose before our eyes, we were stupidly shown a gentle sweet daisy at first, and then they show a rose. What? why??? I want to see a small green rosebud that has not opened, which will grow into a gorgeous rose before my eyes.
I don't want to see 2a different flowers. I want to see ONE flower grow from embryo to maturity. And this is a classic of this genre, especially since it is the MAIN CHARACTER!
We were just shown 2 different people, with different habits, characters, appearance!!! even the color of the hair, but with one, roughly speaking, name (name). WE were not shown the most interesting thing - the GROWTH of the character, this is both outraging and annoying, and it does not matter who plays better - Anastasia or Beret, it is important that these are 2 different people, and they play the heroine in different ways.
The former one stood out immediately and was not like the others
But in general, the series is terribly stretched, the series last a very long time, and in the series the plot lasts for a long time, too, like rubber teeth. Ahmed was lying with smallpox for almost two series (for the first time in the Ottoman chronicle, two people survived from smallpox at once, and no one got infected from them, it's a miracle what!), patience is already lacking. The screenwriters, in comparison with BB, here really do not know what to come up with, as a result, the miracles are wonderful and the absurdities are absurd.
By the way, I look at Beren and realize that the actress is also not pulling the role. Especially when you remember the actresses Mahidevran and the young Hurrem, they played very brightly and well. And then somehow the look clings hard, Beren often fakes or does not show proper emotions, which is why the quality of the game pulls more on Brazilian something.
Regarding the game, Beren plays great, if you understand that Kesem should be so cold and not particularly emotional.
Maybe someone will explain to me the dialogue about 19 coffins, in which one was empty. I didn't quite understand what kind of adventure Sofia Sultan had.
There was a reason why they showed the caftan of this Alexander's janissary. And they said his family was influential. This is probably what he is
The new girl plays well, so you can get used to it
This one looks more like a sultana at least.
Hurrem - she was a beauty herself, it was just nice to look at her. Here I did not understand at all, the main character is as beautiful as all the actors. No different from any concubine. Moreover, Sofia seems to me even more refined and beautiful. Hurrem wasn't just the same, she was exceptional! Such an appearance. In order for the series to be a success after BB, it was necessary to spin something straight wow. And this is far from wow. I quit. Although I love BB with all my heart.
Of course, it looks funny how the speech of some concubine, whom no one would have let out into the street to a crowd of men and would not have listened to, stopped the whole uprising, but at least she was doing something, and not like the others, just running around and screaming: "We're all going to die, we're all going to die!" The sudden conversion to Islam is even funnier. Although I am pleased with the creators' efforts to avoid the same type of plot twists as much as possible.
To my taste, they look quite decent with Ahmed, but their love line does not cause any special interest or trust. Kesem is supposedly so in love, so in love, and why would she suddenly? Well okay. But there is much more politics, history and side lines here than in the history of Hurrem, which upsets some, but pleases me. The Lord's beard is so poor, it would be better if he were still a beardless youth.
Aaaaaah, the hidden shehzade, well, what are you doing? >< You would have invented the Sultan's twin >< And so the only candidate, when they said about it, was Iskender, and when he was shown so closely so many times, so in general...
Ahmed was pleased with his decisive actions. Gireyev went to prison, Pasha resigned, did not stand on ceremony. Only she can't cope with her grandmother in any way, damn, she seems to be sending her away, but she's been here and here for as long as possible.
It could have been done more elegantly, but that's how it turned out. Moreover, for all the following episodes, he will have time to forget the original actress in the role of Kesem a hundred times.
2. The feeling of humiliation when Anastasia came out in front of the rioters and they even started listening to her, despite the fact that she is basically nobody. Listening to Safie or the same Hurrem in such a situation is logical, they have made a name for themselves, everyone knows them. Listening to some unknown girl from the harem is strange and unrealistic.
3. What is Santa Barbara with Safie's surviving son? And, of course, by coincidence, this son turned out to be Alexander/Iskander... Well, I'm just speechless.
It is immediately clear that the screenwriter of this series and the screenwriter of BB are completely different people.
Probably the most important event was the sudden replacement of the actress. I have a kind of deja vu, as if I returned to the 90s, I was waiting for a loud voice to say "The role of Anastasia From this series/Mahpaker will be performed by actress Beren Saat")
The line with the secretly rescued shehzade seems frankly primitive. At least half of the series of intrigue was held, but no - Safie and Bulbul's memories of the hidden boy are immediately followed by Iskander's story, from which it immediately becomes clear that he is the same boy.
Sultan was also visually impaired by the disease... Or it's because of the facial hair... In short, the idea is frankly unsuccessful. He immediately reminded me of a character who has been walking around for several months with the same five-day stubble on his face. Although wait, maybe with this sudden stubble, the screenwriters are hinting to us that the smallpox left traces on Ahmed's face, the emerging beard supposedly covers the scars?
But Mehmed is the perfect match for Fahriye! She was ready to kill her nephews, and he didn't stand on ceremony with his brother, except that his conscience tormented him a little longer. But then they let it go, because everything is for the sake of a noble goal, for the sake of love! And not like Shahin, he has nothing but sultan's ambitions! Sarcasm, if anything.
But it stretches the plot and the length of the series - this is kapets. It could have been shorter))
Блонда заложила уже образ персонажа Анастасии, а Берен не сможет его продолжить.
Serialo_wo_man правильно говорит, хочется видеть развитие персонажа, а не замену актрис..
А никого не волнует.что Искендер (новобранец)сын Сафие и Мурада😅