s02e22 — Becoming — Part II

Buffy the Vampire Slayer — s02e22 — Becoming — Part II

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Release Date: 20.05.1998 05:00
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Discussion: Season 2, Episode 22
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olivnight
olivnight
28 Feb 2015, 01:34 #
A sad episode.
svetacore
svetacore
18 Aug 2015, 17:40 #
I cried the whole ending.
oakhmedova
oakhmedova
20 Jan 2016, 09:24 #
An interesting series from my childhood. And the actors...
mashahripunkova
mashahripunkova
13 Nov 2016, 11:54 #
And how did the blond strangle his beloved if vampires don't need breathing?
Sternenreich
Sternenreich
05 Oct 2024, 05:36 #
@mashahripunkova: I agree. It pisses me off too. I also don't need blood circulation, so I couldn't strangle twice. Moreover, krinja adds that in "Angel" there is a series where an Angel was hanged and he survived precisely because he does not need either breathing or conversion. They would have already thought of making it so that he just hit her on the head and she passed out and there would be no contradictions from this. Was it difficult to think of something?
ajbige
ajbige
03 Jan 2017, 21:53 #
No matter how much I look (it seems like the 4th time already), I cry with Buffy every time. And also this creepy music ...
a series after which nothing will be the same as before : (The series will be completely different.
And Xander showed all of himself. Further - worse.
And after each viewing, it is impossible to comprehend what happened. Some emotions overwhelm and such emptiness (((
amilenova
amilenova
02 Aug 2024, 08:56 #
@ajbige: Xander, of course, did a bad thing, but in my opinion, Angel did not deserve to live a normal life again, after everything that happened. His demon side is terrible. Although as a child I really liked the couple Buffy and Angela. But judging by Angel's spin-off, he'll get out.
Hollyleaf
Hollyleaf
21 Mar 2025, 00:35 #
@amilenova: Well, what do you mean you didn't deserve it? He couldn't control it even a little bit, he just didn't have a soul. It is possible that they would not have forgiven him, they would have been afraid. Otherwise...
NEKetG
NEKetG
16 Aug 2017, 23:06 #
Spike is unrealistically cool))
Nadin_Wasp
Nadin_Wasp
24 Jul 2018, 18:25 #
- Have we met?
"You hit me with an axe once. Do you remember? "Don't you dare touch my baby!"
- Oh...
- ...
- So you live in the neighborhood?
БеарБлю
БеарБлю
28 Jan 2019, 22:45 #
When I watched the series in action, Angel and Buffy seemed like a real couple and love, I couldn't come to my senses after this episode. How could she?
And Spike and Drew seemed so fucking bad. And Xandrer was a very good friend.
Now I'm reviewing and my opinion has just changed about almost everything and everyone - the love of Buffy and Angel is the love of just typical teenagers, despite the fact that the latter is 240 years old. Drew is just gorgeous, Spike is generally handsome and, despite his bloodlust, not stupid at all. And Xander is still a fool, and this infatuation with Buffy annoys kapets. In general, I watch and make a lot of discoveries for myself
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
27 Nov 2021, 02:14 #
It's the same with every TV series of my childhood. Now you look at it with an adult's eye and see all things differently already.
PeroistKosmik
PeroistKosmik
30 Mar 2023, 00:04 #
@Bearbloo: For me, at this stage, Drusilla is not gorgeous, as it is evil. I have an aversion to evil. With the Shrike, not everything is so clear. But the gaps are already visible.
Iradakzlv
Iradakzlv
02 May 2023, 21:43 #
How I agree with you! I don't understand the admiration for this psychopathic villain. Yes, and it's really repulsive
nphl
nphl
11 May 2019, 04:54 #
Well, finally the Crutch showed that you are a "real kid", as stated earlier, otherwise you rode almost the whole season in a stroller, splashing bile.

I just want to grind Xander to powder for his cowardice.

And in this house, we infinitely love and respect Willow Rosenberg. Come on, girl!
Гамулятор
Гамулятор
31 Jul 2021, 20:44 #
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Иерарх
Иерарх
06 Jul 2020, 21:08 #
Is that so cruel, Whedon?
Иерарх
Иерарх
07 Jul 2020, 19:07 #
@Hierarch: And yet, I already wrote once and I can repeat: Buffy's mother is the mother of the year -_-
Buffy
Buffy
10 Aug 2020, 23:56 #
No matter how many times I watch this episode, anger at Xander stirs my soul every time. Damn, how's that? Xander, of course you're a moron. 🤬
id18379359
id18379359
14 Aug 2020, 15:42 #
I was amazed by both Xander and Buffy's mother! And in general the ending!
Me-wow
Me-wow
12 Sep 2020, 01:12 #
Omg, the first full-fledged interaction between Buffy and Spike as allies, and immediately so wonderful))
The chipping of Others is a joy to the eyes.
Buffy is just a heroine in this series, strong, and Sarochka played great.
Well, in general, although I agree with Xander in the sense that Angel deserved to die for all the good things (he doesn't know about the spin-off), his motivation, like his actions, is sometimes disgusting.
PeroistKosmik
PeroistKosmik
30 Mar 2023, 00:07 #
@Me-wow: You are not mistaken. This is what the demon in the Angel (Angelus) deserved, not the human soul of the Angel.
anna_trofymenko
anna_trofymenko
20 Sep 2020, 19:22 #
I'll just cry on the sidelines.
FomeNastya
FomeNastya
27 Dec 2020, 16:12 #
Spike 💖 the love of my childhood )
alinejusty
alinejusty
01 Jan 2021, 21:51 #
Yes, that's why I don't want to review it further than the second season :(
id137715504
id137715504
09 May 2021, 20:55 #
Well, that's it, I finally fell in love with Spike. Just for once or twice. How can you be so cool and charming 🤪😍
Nog
Nog
13 Jul 2021, 14:20 #
The immortal villain saves the world from destruction because he likes to live in it. There were "Good omens" :D
amilenova
amilenova
02 Aug 2024, 08:59 #
@Nog: At least Spike has motivation, but what about the rest of the villains? Destroy the world and that's it? And then? To die? There won't be any people, what to eat?
klmIvanko
klmIvanko
22 Jul 2021, 22:42 #
Waaaaa... WOW. The ending is fire. I'm going to be killed, but I didn't want Angel to come back, either he's a villain or he's being killed...But I didn't expect such an end...It's both delicious and sad. Comments about Xander scare me, is he really going to turn out to be scum at all?..I'm watching it for the first time, so I don't understand why everyone admires Drussila? Personally, she annoys me from the first appearance and, to be honest, I was waiting for Spike to finally throw her. But no, he went somewhere with her. And Buffy left, I wonder where she went and what she's going to do. This season, I discovered and liked the characters of Cordelia and Spike. Cordy is a cutie, though peculiar, and Spike stopped playing along with his girlfriend and immediately became a normal person. He's charismatic. I'm not writing about Willow, because she's a bunny from the very beginning and she's getting cooler and cooler. And I found a good guy for myself, I'm just touching their couple and I hope they will be fine in the future.
geliop
geliop
24 Jan 2023, 14:55 #
I totally agree! I'm shaking right now, I don't like it at all. Spike is good, the Angel has been exhausted for a long time. and I'm scared for Xander too, don't make him a goat (I absolutely understand his act, although the motivation was spoiled, yes. I love Cordy, I don't like that they don't appreciate it. she may be different from them, but behind all her "insults" lies concern, she just shows it that way. Well, Buffy's mother — there are just no words.
distantskyline
distantskyline
03 May 2023, 17:08 #
@geliop: Buffy's mom was also always condemned, but here I'm reviewing and from some side I also understand her a little. Age makes itself felt)
Iradakzlv
Iradakzlv
02 May 2023, 21:44 #
My thoughts are straight about Drew and Angel!
MoneyBarney
MoneyBarney
12 Sep 2021, 17:45 #
So far, this is the saddest episode for me. I kept the whole viewing in suspense. And after such an ending, it seems that it will not be the same as before. And it also hurts that Mom never understood Buffy. How far they are from each other, and how cold the relationship between them is, like strangers. I am sad and hurt that Buffy is left all alone. After all, as it turned out, Xander's best friend also acts only for the benefit of his interests, I already wrote about this earlier. But in this series, of course, his even worse qualities showed up. It is very interesting whether this act will be revealed in the future.
Angel... Despite all that he had done in the end, I felt sorry for him. And it's a pity Buffy had to make a choice against her feelings. An incredibly strong series. Such that it sticks in the memory for a very long time, and gives food for thought. That's the note to end the season on. Bravo screenwriters!
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
27 Nov 2021, 02:20 #
Despite the fact that the ending is sad, the series itself is very funny, of course thanks to Spike and Others. It was a wonderful season and one of my favorites, and it was with him that my acquaintance with the series began in childhood. Spike won my heart then, apparently forever, because how many years have passed, and I still like the character. His actions and actions, unlike some other characters, do not seem stupid or absurd, even after so many years. And special thanks for the cheekbones of James Marsters - they are beautiful
Enestezi
Enestezi
12 Apr 2022, 19:54 #
A very beautiful final episode. It seems that this is the ending of the whole series and should be.)
evil_pentagram
evil_pentagram
19 Apr 2022, 05:36 #
A very touching episode. As a child, I remember that I liked Xander more than the other characters (I was about 10 years old :). Now it's just the most infuriating Persian. Spike + Dru = these are such vampire Sid and Nancy. Everything is fine with them, they are very charismatic guys. I would like more Oz. Cordy is the Queen, it's a pity she got this jerk. Buffy's mother is difficult to understand. That is, she was not particularly worried all this time that her daughter was (suddenly) hanging out with a librarian who was old enough to be her father, that she was having an affair with an adult guy, that she fought better than a real cop, and in general, there was always some trash at school. Damn, Maman, a vampire was killed in front of your eyes, how can you deny it?
I understand Buffy's motivation. She doesn't want to put anyone close to her in danger anymore.
The season came out even better than the first, they revealed everything very well. I was glad to see Dru in the image of Miss Kalender, the actress playing Miss Kalender is very beautiful (like everything in this series, however)
AlyonaSe
AlyonaSe
04 Dec 2022, 17:03 #
I don't care how visible the stuntmen are. I didn't see them as a child, it's probably because of the quality of the TV. But now it hurts my eyes.
But the series is still good.
KatrinVamp
KatrinVamp
PRO
09 Dec 2022, 00:05 #
@fb881929: I'm watching the unmastered version and it's not visible))
KatrinVamp
KatrinVamp
PRO
09 Dec 2022, 00:06 #
Guys, can you please explain why the Angel's blood was the key to the statue? And what role did his friend the demon play in all this?
Iradakzlv
Iradakzlv
03 May 2023, 13:50 #
Buffy's mother is just the most finished character. What an idiot. I have all.
Aydan9
Aydan9
05 Jul 2023, 16:30 #
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Aydan9
Aydan9
05 Jul 2023, 16:37 #
❤️
Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
28 Aug 2024, 00:08 #
I was just crying a very unexpected ending, how can an Angel only have his soul returned and still have to be killed or what Buffy did, sent him to hell turns out..very sad, their kiss and declaration of love and he disappeared...I can't stomach all this, I was also very angry at his dark side that he killed Jenny, but it's still not really him, as we found out earlier he was bitten, so he was a real person..It's good, of course, that mom now knows that Buffy is the chosen one, but her reaction was of course shocking, I thought it would be better..It's very sad...😭😭😭😭
Christipo
Christipo
04 Sep 2024, 02:12 #
These casual small talk with crutch:
"Do we know each other?"
- And so, once you hit me with an axe: come on leave my daughter alone


"You killed the Slayer and didn't tell me?"! Well done! Although from your point of view, of course not.
S1S13AF7
S1S13AF7
12 Oct 2024, 20:18 #
Crutch I liked how I came to the city and here in this series. besides, either I don't care what they're stirring up or annoying. But he's talking business. trindit" I will destroy the world " can be any fool, but why destroy it, and the Angel can really destroy it, and since he likes this world, then why destroy that Angel. Well, not literally, but everyone understood.

well, in addition to all this, I myself did not understand nirazu nafiga for example to the same Vampires of the destruction of the world or specifically people for example, and so on. stupid, apparently.
and here in this series crutch actually directly says Well, you understand.
StasyaVasya
StasyaVasya
06 Nov 2024, 23:03 #
I wonder if I'll ever stop crying at the end of this episode?
The most terrible thing that Buffy and the audience could give was hope. First, the shock of the changes that have occurred, denial, acceptance. And now both you and Buffy realize that everything has changed - the Angel has changed, he is pure evil, and evil needs to be removed. But then they find a floppy disk, and there's a fucking hope that wasn't there.
It was written above that this is the point of no return, the series will no longer be the same as before. Honestly, I didn't have enough episodes when Buff and Angel were doing well, when they were together and fighting. It was such a short period, and now everything will go one place at a time. And the attitude of others towards her will change. Why would Whedon do this to her?
In the end, when she walks with a bag, so small and fragile, I really want to hug her and feel sorry for her... she didn't deserve such a story.
Hollyleaf
Hollyleaf
21 Mar 2025, 00:24 #
@StasyaVasya: Well, thanks to you, now all my hopes for the future in the series have been swept away... Well, what kind of life is this, you think you can escape from reality for a while and plunge into the series, feel love, hope, confidence, and so on, but even then all your feelings (the feelings of the characters) are torn to shreds by their point of no return and changes. I'm tired of this, everything in this world betrays and breaks my heart, I wish I could just leave it...
happy_lemon
happy_lemon
17 Feb 2025, 23:39 #
I don't really understand exactly where Xander is going. Yes, I didn't say it, but we condemn it. But in fact, Buffy realized that the Angel had found a soul, she said goodbye to him, and it was her conscious decision.

Imho, if she had known about the ritual in advance, it could have been distracting during the duel, instilling false hope. She would be constantly looking for signs that don't exist, as a result of which she could die.

Therefore, Xander's concealment of the truth is frowned upon, but in fact it did not affect the final outcome.
MrsChimodanova
MrsChimodanova
01 Mar 2025, 18:36 #
@happy_lemon: Yes, thank you! I remember when I was watching, I was glad that he didn't say! Buffy's life is more important.
OhneName
OhneName
01 Aug 2025, 03:46 #
@happy_lemon:
But she killed him because that was the only way to stop the end of the world at that moment.
But it could also happen that he would not have had time to draw his sword, and Buffy would have killed him anyway a minute before the end of the ritual, since she did not know that it was being performed.
Hollyleaf
Hollyleaf
21 Mar 2025, 00:16 #
Well, why end it so tragically?!...
The case when you know that Angel will have to be returned in the future, but now it's not fun. And to break up with friends, without a mentor, what kind of winner would there be? In short, I don't like change, but I hope everything gets back to normal at least a little.
Hollyleaf
Hollyleaf
21 Mar 2025, 00:28 #
At least, I did not understand what caused this feature of Angel's blood, and similarly, the imprisonment only through him. It's not even that "a vampire with a soul', but just an Angel
MrsChimodanova
MrsChimodanova
08 Apr 2025, 14:17 #
@Hollyleaf: Yes, it seems like it's just that whoever turned it on should turn it off.
StasyaVasya
StasyaVasya
07 Dec 2025, 13:22 #
The most favorite season❤️ P.S. I haven't stopped crying over this episode)))
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