s02e09 — Jeg savner deg så jævlig

@yokayteslareon: this is not a reason to rape her

@yokayteslareon: and here's Shurygina's theme))))

@yokayteslareon: I would like to blame the victim now. Men are not able to keep their dick in their pants :Z

@Dex_Vicious: Of course, victimblaming is what it is :

@yokayteslareon: She's at her boyfriend's apartment, with his brother, who (as it seemed at the time) treated her kindly, and a bunch of people. Plus I'm upset. in the chastity belt and with the closest relatives, is it just to drink so that they don't get raped?
there are situations in which danger is obvious and you need to get out, then the victim can somehow be called stupid. But not here. I'm sorry that girls don't think about rape 24/7 and no matter which guy turns out to be an asshole.

If you pay attention, then throughout the series, Noora does not drink. She doesn't need much to get drunk

Yes, I could go to the school doctor and find out if there was anything

@Samodinochka: When the girls with penetrators were hanging out on the bus, Vilde tried to set Nura up with some guy and introduced her as a virgin. and Noora did not deny it. He's talking about something.

@RileyDay: the police call these girls in hijabs. But apparently, Sana is being chased by one of the penetrator guys - most likely the one she rejected at the party on the bus.

@MilanaWalters: I don't know if I expected angst, but it's interesting) and here it's just a cliche.

@kshishevsky: It's scary to look further, because there are still more than two seasons. I don't know what to expect from other characters, even if such a strong-minded and reasonable character broke down from almost nothing. From my own stupidity

@kshishevsky: theoretically, Nura could reduce the risk of getting into a similar situation, but to claim that "both are to blame"? Are you serious? And of course, William is also an innocent babysitter: the girl he loves (in fact, hardly, narcissists are not capable of loving anyone except themselves) got into some kind of murky story with his psychopathic brother, but why listen to both sides and react appropriately, it's better to humiliate the "beloved" in front of the whole school and demonstrate your selfishness. Is it necessary to write about the stress she's going through, that she's already bravely enough in this situation and even finds the strength to fight?

@alshi_: okay.
First of all, yes, I'm serious. and she could reduce this risk not only in theory, but also in practice, but for some reason she did not consider it necessary.
Secondly, William has changed normally since his first appearance. society made him a narcissist - he dated girls for one night only because most pretty girls don't know their own worth and the real secret of any relationship is that a man should see that you are at least something of yourself. at the same time, the girls thought the opposite - they saw, jumped on him, spread their legs and waited for great love, but William is to blame and turns out to be narcissus anyway, even though he didn't promise them anything (I do not know what century you live in, as long as they give, take it and use it). your superficial psychology, they say, people are the same and are not capable of changing, is completely out of place here.
Thirdly, William initially told her that he was protecting her from his family in the same way that Nura was protecting Wilde. One could at least assume that he didn't want Nura to have any contact with his family. therefore, by turning on logic, it is not difficult to understand that there is something to protect from, especially since this topic is so unpleasant to him.
Fourth, I'm not saying that William did the right thing by running away like that. just the opposite. but he was humiliated even better. In this school, all rumors fly at the speed of light. if they found out that his girlfriend had slept not just with some guy, but with his brother, his reputation would have gone into negative territory. and there was no way he could have fixed it. and Nura got up, dusted herself off and walked on.

@alshi_: and finally, I can choose what to write about and what not to write about. Of course, she did a great job, she didn't give up and that's it. but you just had to not get involved in such shit at first, so that you wouldn't have to worry about such stress later.
you go to the person they were trying to protect you from, believe every single word he says, agree to drink with him (when you know you absolutely can't drink), wake up in bed with him, naked, and William is still to blame. a bad man, fell in love with such a strong girl, broke her and shamed her in front of the whole school. The terrible horror

@kshishevsky: Oh, it's clear, "samaduravata", but in our country, the person who was harmed is responsible, I forgot. The fact that a girl is drunk is not a reason to rape her or perform any other actions with her that she is unlikely to agree to when she is sober. Let's also discuss what she was wearing, how brightly she was wearing makeup, and in general, she came by herself - well, she obviously provoked.
You know, I live in the 21st century, and I really don't like the idea that responsibility for sexual crimes is being pushed onto victims or "both are to blame." Yes, I didn't have to drink, but I don't understand at all why I should write something in Nura's defense if it's the fault of a dude who blows his mind at the sight of a drunk girl. The normal human reaction in this case is to wash, give activated charcoal and put a basin next to the bed, but while we have "both" to blame, we can undress this girl, touch and take pictures.

If my "psychology" is superficial, then yours is painfully naive: "if a cool, cool girl loves him very much, then he will change from a frog into a handsome prince." I have already written that this is a shitty role model and the creators who present this story in a snotty romantic way, in my opinion, are wrong precisely because the series is presented as realistic and the relationships of other characters are demonstrated in a more truthful way. Some kind of work on oneself precedes changes, it's clear from the example of Isak, but here it doesn't exist. I don't care about William at all and it's boring to look at him, the character is a dummy, I've already watched the series and didn't notice any changes, on the contrary, he even remained an asshole.