I don't share everyone's enthusiasm about Claire Foy's game at all. Her Queen Elizabeth is indeed Shirley Temple-a scared little girl in a big palace. Attempts to play some kind of greatness or pride fail, although there is still nothing in the scenes of personal life. But you believe Vanessa Kirby absolutely, the beautiful Princess Margaret. Like Smith, the perfect Philip.
@fleriana: as for me, it's not about playing greatness or pride at all, it's about royal restraint, wisdom, inflexibility, so I like Claire's game. as for me, she did a great job in this role.
So sincerely asking my sister to shame herself sometimes, so as not to feel like shit on a stick! How low it is. Margaret was like bullies from school the whole episode, who humiliate you simply because their self-esteem is bad. And like these bullies, she did everything against the odds. Yes, it must be very hard to be in the shadow of your sister, but why shame her?
@myanmar: selfishness. Margaret is as infuriating as she is infuriating. the actress plays well. For some reason, they all think that being a Queen is entertainment.
I like Margaret, both externally and her brisk character. But in this episode, she didn't behave very nicely. It seems that she can't forgive her family for separating her from Peter. It comes to insanity, I do not believe that she did not know what could and could not be said in her position. I'm sure Margaret did it on purpose. And Elizabeth did a great job, she endured this incredibly difficult trip. I even felt sad that all her efforts would not help save the Empire.
Unfortunately, the history lessons at school are no longer the same, and the history of Europe is generally a dark forest and decay. Although it would seem almost modern.
And I liked the line with the Queen Mother. It's great that she's found a place where she can enjoy life and not think about all this royal fuss. pysy. I want to go to Scotland:'(
So they touched on the topic of rivalry even for the father's love between Lilibet and Margaret, before that they somehow did not focus on this, although they also showed that he really adored both daughters equally. Why should the eldest daughter read the speech? Because she was able to do it with dignity, without betraying her pain, because this is expected of her as the leader of the country, no matter how it hurt Margaret, although it can also be understood, she wanted to pay tribute to her beloved dad.
Elizabeth, the mother, did well, of course, she went to heal her soul at such a moment, decided that for some reason her daughters didn't need her, before that she had somehow successfully managed to do all sorts of business with Tommy. Although thanks to this line for the stunning views of Scotland, the beaches and fields are just in the heart. I don't understand if she regrets losing power, or if it fell on the shoulders of her daughter, who was completely unprepared for such a thing.. On the other hand, she can be understood, she was too abruptly pulled out of her habitual habitat without the right to return, she needed to put her thoughts in order.
Philip was oppressed by the country's position that the monarchy was just a screen, the circus monkeys of political games, and he was completely caught up in it without the right to change anything. But how subtly he feels his wife, as soon as her armor cracks, he is right there, and extends a helping hand. How important it is for him to be a support for her, that's why our royal husband is furious, among other things.: it would seem that she does not need his support, she is now the Queen and decides everything on her own, but in fact she is needed more than ever. "And who do you think you're letting down? Koala?" Drove Zhinka, went too far, even though he was right, she's trying too hard, but Filka doesn't have a brake light. The scene of the quarrel and throwing anything at her husband would have been funny if there hadn't been cameras nearby ready to capture their every mistake, however, the journalists acted very nobly.
Elizabeth's big problem is that she is too responsible, and could not let at least one cog fall out of the clip. The younger sister has always been a carefree child, and it is difficult for her to entrust at least some of the serious responsibilities to her, but their mother is right — we need to give Margaret at least some space in light of recent events. At the same time, Lilibet may have envied her frivolous, charming sister, who always had much more opportunities and much fewer prohibitions than she did, but in general she is right — replacing the queen is not a pleasure trip, it is a heavy burden that must be borne with dignity so that their country and family do not She fell on her face in the dirt. However, all this girly jealousy of a younger and obviously more charismatic younger sister, I can't, it makes the Queen... It's more human, even if it doesn't make you look beautiful. It's all about self-doubt, and only because of it. What a stubborn girl, she would never allow herself to fall in the dirt on her face. You can't let her down, you can't be worse than anyone, and let everyone doubt her, and she doubts them even more, but the Queen finds the strength and goes forward, how can you not respect her for that?
I admire the rebellious spirit of Margaret, who, by virtue of her upbringing, makes her antics so elegant, full of secret meaning and sarcasm, but I can understand the feelings of everyone else: every step of the royal family is viewed under a magnifying glass, everyone, and such quirks are reflected on everyone, Margaret cannot help but understand this, and this is her revenge for separation from a loved one, she is like that... teenage. True, it is not without elegance, it is worth noting, but in the end it harms only her and Peter.
@chch93: I like that she always remains herself, it makes her closer to the people, but...those were not the days, the world was not yet ready to look behind the screen of the royal family and see ordinary people, they really needed ideals, not everyone, this line was already beginning to break, but only just. In the present, no one will be surprised by such innocent antics, because we are used to the public display of character from the leaders of the world. Therefore, for us, all of Margaret's words and deeds, honest, direct, and real, seem just sweet, but then it was beyond the pale.
I don't think Margaret did anything really bad, she just was...Margaret, but Elizabeth can also be understood: it is her duty to protect the honor of the crown, once and for all, whether she likes it or not. The sisters' confrontation is like this... It's really a family thing, you can find it in every house. And each one is jealous of the other, not having what she has: one is freedom, the fact that she has the silence she needs without the hardships of government, the other is that she is forever second, forever in the shadow of the monarch (although for me it's really an ideal life, you have status, money and a million just don't create havoc around yourself), and the latter so childishly grabs every victory that she has, whether it's the love of the audience or the love of her father, without even thinking how her sister is hurt by her words. I feel sorry for both of them, in fact, neither of them has what they want in the end.
There was a feeling that in addition to the pain of losses in the Queen mother's speech, there was also a drop of envy at the table, undeserved against the background of her troubles or unsuitable against the background of her experience for the acquisitions of others, especially her own daughter. "They gave power to a very girly girl, completely unprepared for this." I would have thought that she was so throwing out her worries for her own fate that she became lonely and useless to anyone; for the fate of Great Britain and for Lilibet, on whose shoulders the burdens of the crown fell, but why all these speeches in the context of "everything was taken away from me"? After all, she knows how it is, what kind of order and what the widow of a monarch has to put up with. Otherwise, it sounds strange from the mother's mouth, almost like a rival "I would be a better queen than her".
@TsinoevaAlisa14: Not only does she believe that her daughter is incapable of anything, but she said almost the same thing about her late husband, saying that he needed a lot of help (from her). The Queen Mother either started to get a little senile or, out of a small mind, she thought too much of herself.
It's like Margaret was hired from an ad, not from this kitchen. He doesn't use his brain at all, just his teenage self. I really missed Tommy, he would have stopped it much earlier, there would have been less damage. Philip is good, and he gets mad at the whole show like a human being, and he understands how hard it is for his wife and that she needs him. A hundred pound lock))) A great scene on the shore, with recognition.
The Queen Mother lived 101 years. Philip is 99 years old. Elizabeth is already under 100) Charles and William will live for a hundred) the celebration. tinsel. flashes. rapid. in the style of Zack Snyder's Keepers) at the beginning of the opening of the monument to his father. after 54, the mother will be added. but aside. If I were the queen, I would put them side by side.
Sometimes it's very difficult for me with the series, but this episode just went "hooray!". It's a wonderful conflict between Margaret and Elizabeth, even if I don't particularly like the first one in principle. But it should be interesting. I hope it will be well promoted and it will be very interesting to watch.
I don't like Philip at all. Many people appreciate his sense of humor, and it would be a good quality, and even in contrast to Elizabeth's seriousness, if they were not bullying and attempts to devalue his wife's work and her decisions. None of this makes him look good as a man and a husband, and the moments of support are also kind of semi-useful. He just goes around making fun of everyone and everything, the monarchy, diplomacy, military moments, in words only a master, but in fact he would hardly go to defend his ideas
what a wonderful series with a wonderful title. Margaret likes it very much, and the Queen Mother moments are just very touching here. Claire Foy plays very well, you can read so much right in her eyes. Matt Smith does a good job of portraying Phillip, too.
Is someone else doing factchecking after watching each episode? so far, everything is so historically accurate, even the quarrel with the tennis racket. Bravo to the crown!
Elizabeth королева The Queen, but such a fraction is yazkova in relation to Margaret. Just as she couldn't stand the fact that there were more newspapers about Peter than about her, so now she's most worried that someone else won't like Margaret more than she does. It's so low, she's the center of attention every day, gets all possible respect, even worship, her portraits are everywhere, everyone bows, falls silent, pleases. Isn't that enough?? While Margaret even reread and rewrote the speech, she didn't just come and do everything according to the instructions, like a doll. Oh, the story of the Queen Mother's Castle is so touching! The actress is so charismatic that it's hard for me not to sympathize with the character, even though she's actually an unpleasant person...
@nens8_8y: Elizabeth is insecure (at that moment), who is being prodded by everyone around her, without explaining why.
And relatives don't take it seriously at all, constantly belittling the load from the category of "oh, what's difficult, pour it, drink it!"
The mother, who knows exactly what it feels like, falls off to Scotland because the virgin heel wanted to and leaves everything to the self-activity of the youngest offended.
So the newspapers and the coverage have nothing to do with it. There are plenty of other reasons there.
The scene of a marital quarrel and the subsequent conversation with journalists is the brightest spot of this series, everything else left such a depressing impression. I wouldn't want to be a member of the royal family.
Margaret is beautiful, of course, but the way she behaves in public is disrespectful. She also constantly tells her sister, the queen, that she is jealous of her. Or maybe it's the other way around, and you're jealous that you didn't get the crown.
It's nice to cover up your character when you're really just dumb, right, Margaret?😏🙄 Okay, you're offended by your sister, but to shame your family, to shame the crown? Well, not a fool...
The Queen Mother and the master of the castle are a very sweet line.
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61This is not Victoria. Not at all.
A completely different level.
And Elizabeth didn't like it at all when she started arguing with Philip about visiting Dorota. :/
And Smith looks magical with children :')
And Elizabeth did a great job, she endured this incredibly difficult trip. I even felt sad that all her efforts would not help save the Empire.
pysy. I want to go to Scotland:'(
Elizabeth, the mother, did well, of course, she went to heal her soul at such a moment, decided that for some reason her daughters didn't need her, before that she had somehow successfully managed to do all sorts of business with Tommy. Although thanks to this line for the stunning views of Scotland, the beaches and fields are just in the heart. I don't understand if she regrets losing power, or if it fell on the shoulders of her daughter, who was completely unprepared for such a thing.. On the other hand, she can be understood, she was too abruptly pulled out of her habitual habitat without the right to return, she needed to put her thoughts in order.
Philip was oppressed by the country's position that the monarchy was just a screen, the circus monkeys of political games, and he was completely caught up in it without the right to change anything.
But how subtly he feels his wife, as soon as her armor cracks, he is right there, and extends a helping hand. How important it is for him to be a support for her, that's why our royal husband is furious, among other things.: it would seem that she does not need his support, she is now the Queen and decides everything on her own, but in fact she is needed more than ever.
"And who do you think you're letting down? Koala?" Drove Zhinka, went too far, even though he was right, she's trying too hard, but Filka doesn't have a brake light. The scene of the quarrel and throwing anything at her husband would have been funny if there hadn't been cameras nearby ready to capture their every mistake, however, the journalists acted very nobly.
What a stubborn girl, she would never allow herself to fall in the dirt on her face. You can't let her down, you can't be worse than anyone, and let everyone doubt her, and she doubts them even more, but the Queen finds the strength and goes forward, how can you not respect her for that?
I admire the rebellious spirit of Margaret, who, by virtue of her upbringing, makes her antics so elegant, full of secret meaning and sarcasm, but I can understand the feelings of everyone else: every step of the royal family is viewed under a magnifying glass, everyone, and such quirks are reflected on everyone, Margaret cannot help but understand this, and this is her revenge for separation from a loved one, she is like that... teenage. True, it is not without elegance, it is worth noting, but in the end it harms only her and Peter.
I don't think Margaret did anything really bad, she just was...Margaret, but Elizabeth can also be understood: it is her duty to protect the honor of the crown, once and for all, whether she likes it or not. The sisters' confrontation is like this... It's really a family thing, you can find it in every house. And each one is jealous of the other, not having what she has: one is freedom, the fact that she has the silence she needs without the hardships of government, the other is that she is forever second, forever in the shadow of the monarch (although for me it's really an ideal life, you have status, money and a million just don't create havoc around yourself), and the latter so childishly grabs every victory that she has, whether it's the love of the audience or the love of her father, without even thinking how her sister is hurt by her words. I feel sorry for both of them, in fact, neither of them has what they want in the end.
Philip is good, and he gets mad at the whole show like a human being, and he understands how hard it is for his wife and that she needs him.
A hundred pound lock))) A great scene on the shore, with recognition.
the celebration. tinsel. flashes. rapid. in the style of Zack Snyder's Keepers)
at the beginning of the opening of the monument to his father. after 54, the mother will be added. but aside. If I were the queen, I would put them side by side.
It's a wonderful conflict between Margaret and Elizabeth, even if I don't particularly like the first one in principle. But it should be interesting. I hope it will be well promoted and it will be very interesting to watch.
Is someone else doing factchecking after watching each episode? so far, everything is so historically accurate, even the quarrel with the tennis racket. Bravo to the crown!
While Margaret even reread and rewrote the speech, she didn't just come and do everything according to the instructions, like a doll.
Oh, the story of the Queen Mother's Castle is so touching! The actress is so charismatic that it's hard for me not to sympathize with the character, even though she's actually an unpleasant person...
And relatives don't take it seriously at all, constantly belittling the load from the category of "oh, what's difficult, pour it, drink it!"
The mother, who knows exactly what it feels like, falls off to Scotland because the virgin heel wanted to and leaves everything to the self-activity of the youngest offended.
So the newspapers and the coverage have nothing to do with it. There are plenty of other reasons there.
The scene of a marital quarrel and the subsequent conversation with journalists is the brightest spot of this series, everything else left such a depressing impression. I wouldn't want to be a member of the royal family.
Okay, you're offended by your sister, but to shame your family, to shame the crown? Well, not a fool...
The Queen Mother and the master of the castle are a very sweet line.