@Alicce: Yes, this ringing silence conveys the general mood of each character. No unnecessary words, no unnecessary tantrums. Just an expression of loss on his face and in his eyes.
An ingenious series in terms of emotions. I was so neutral about Joyce all the previous episodes and cried like a girl when she died. It's all because of the gorgeous acting. How everything is spelled out in detail and played out. When Buffy's friends cried, you realize that they are all a real family, they can always count on each other's help, there is simply no need for another.
A gorgeous series. Sad, but perfectly made and staged. I bought into the deception at the very beginning. The actors were great, but Sarah was the coolest
It's very realistic and it only hurts more. In general, in TV shows you rarely see such a sudden death — not after long months of fading away in the hospital, not in a fight, not in an accident, but just death. One of the most powerful and emotional series.
And we, the audience, and the characters did not expect this, we are not used to seeing the death of non-bad guys in the series, everything is easy (relatively of course), everything is simple - here Buffy died, here Buffy was resurrected, the end of the world every day, and salvation immediately. All this was reflected in Zander's monologue, they say, let there be anything fantastic (which we are all used to), but not the cruel reality against which they (like us) are powerless. But at the same time, the lightness of previous events is felt precisely against the background of this series, they are also great in dramatic terms (the same Oz, Angel, etc.). It's more about the power of this series. p.s. The scene with the vampire at the end showed the difference even more. Not only the acting, but also such moments make the series great. Thanks to Whedon.
I'm just shocked at how realistic and detailed everything is shown. I've never seen anything like this on TV shows and, to be honest, I hope I never see it again. An amazing series, amazing acting, all the emotions are perfectly conveyed, but I don't think I'll ever be able to review it. Very strongly.
There are so many emotions and love in this series. It's so easy not just to forget that this is a TV series, but to believe that this is life. It hurts so much with them, wonderful actors.
@Hear_Me_Roar: specifically, this time Whedon wanted to convey his feelings about the death of his mother from a brain tumor (but at that time he had long planned to confront the characters with the loss of a loved one). Hence the complete realism - this is his personal experience.
But in general, Whedon likes to confront his characters with reality through the sudden deaths of the main characters. Memento mori.
A very strong series, which is only slightly spoiled by two moments: the screensaver and the credits. Especially against the background of the fact that the series does not have a soundtrack. Change the screensaver to a silent title and remove the theme from the credits and there will be a complete tower.
@Hierarch: After the intro and the flashback, by the way, there is a good three-minute longshot. Sarah Michelle performed beautifully, and was even nominated for a Golden Globe for the first time that year. Fair. It's a pity I didn't win.
An incredibly strong episode. Every scene, all the dialogue, the acting, the almost complete absence of background sounds - everything makes it so painfully real. No one is to blame, it just happened, and how to behave is unclear. The reactions of each character are superbly spelled out. Personally, I was most touched - suddenly - by Anya's attitude to what was happening, this helplessness and bewilderment.
The most titled drama could be proud of such a series, but for a fantastic series it's simple... Well, fantastic. An absolute masterpiece.
I just feel completely empty. The strangest thing is that I knew Joyce was going to die, but I couldn't believe it would happen this way. Suddenly, quickly, and no one could do anything. No matter how strong Buffy was, Giles was smart, and Willow was a cool witch-none of them could do anything. And it's devastating because you really can't explain why and how it happened. It's just that she's gone. Joyce wasn't always a great mom, but when she accepted Buffy as a slayer, she did everything she could. She was a ray of light: strong, kind, and she loved them all, just like they loved her. I just don't understand why.
A lot has already been written here about the genius of this series, and I totally agree. I can only say that the topic of the loss of a loved one was shown very thoroughly and truthfully, everything supernatural seems to be nonsense when someone from a family suddenly dies, this is a terrible reality of life, and where simply nothing can be done.
I won't repeat myself, for me this is also a series with the strangest feelings inside. It hurts me, it's hard for me! I want to say one thing: Buffy's mom was not the perfect mom that we see in other TV shows. She didn't understand Buffy, disowned her, and so on. It's not a pity for her, but for Buffy and Don, the guys, it feels like they transferred all the states in the event…
At the beginning of this series, it was necessary to put some kind of warning trigger. Something like "this episode may cause you to have a nausea attack, panic attack, or nervous breakdown. The faint of heart, pregnant women and children are asked to move away from the screens." Because that's the way it is. This series is as brilliant as it is terrible. I've watched a lot of TV shows and movies, I've seen death on screen and fictional relatives crying many times, my favorite characters died and I cried as if they were real, but never before has anyone forced me to experience the worst fear in my life as if it were happening to me. I thought I wouldn't survive those 40 minutes. Actually, I don't even know how to watch the series anymore. If Whedon decides to share his personal experiences through the series again, I'm afraid it won't end with one panic attack.
Whedon is a genius. It seems to me that one of the themes he wanted to convey is that the human body is just a shell for the soul. And it doesn't mean anything at all. The soul leaves, and the human body becomes empty. And everyone who was close to the deceased now feels this emptiness.
Very cool done technically, but how would I look Buffy not to be casually traumatized. The series needs a trigger warning, and Whedon needs to measure the context a little to work out his post-life injuries
A terribly difficult series, brilliant acting, silence and confusion. It was even filmed in a different way. But I would like to squander it, because in the series it is the scariest and saddest (
It is in the context that the series is outstanding. Non-standard camera techniques, color, plot and Gellar bring the episode to the level of the best in the series.
2 breaths, 30 pressures!!! And not on a soft couch!!! By the way, I learned about the soft sofa from the article about the death of Michael Jackson on Wikipedia, it turns out that he had a mysterious death. He was also married to the daughter of Elvis Presley, who also had misunderstandings about the circumstances of his death. And the series is very unusual, it stands out from the rest, I won't say whether I liked it or not, it's just different. It's like the director decided to try something new.
a gorgeous and at the same time terrible series, so realistically showed my worst nightmare, it seems I will be moving away from this series for a long time..
I feel it even more now than I did at a younger age.
It seems to me that in the history of television this is one of the most painful ideas about the death of a parent.
I imagined myself in Buffy's place and tears flowed without ceasing from the realization that one day this would happen to me.
All the actors played very realistically. Every character has a soul-tearing scene: how Willow doesn't know what to wear, how Zender doesn't understand how everything can happen so easily, how Anya in general doesn't understand what it means to lose a loved one and what grief is…
But Sarah... Buffy's feelings are just tearing to the guts.
One of the best episodes of the entire series, but it's also terrible... terrible in its authenticity.
Somehow you don't expect such an episode in a series about the extermination of vampires, where Buffy pierces demons with sticks with jokes and puns, and at graduation they joke about the low mortality rate. I roared through the whole series, the realism is off the scale, of course. In the beginning, when Buffy called 911, she had a flashback to her similar experience. The complete absence of a soundtrack, sudden actions such as Buffy straightening her skirt or Willow changing clothes a million times, Zander broke through the wall. Tara wanted to say something comforting, but in the end she said something incoherent and confused herself. Even Anya's comments don't seem funny, they only made her cry harder. Her monologue is simply impossible, describing roughly what they all feel. I noticed that Zander hugged Giles, although he usually only hugs girls, hugging men is awkward for him. And Anya hugged Giles. I was touched by how Zander joked after Anya's clumsy condolences, tried to give her at least some instructions. The vampire at the end feels like a horror because of the oppressive atmosphere, it was very scary for Dawn. Although it would seem. Spike was missing, but it's clear that no one called him, especially after the previous episode. Only the closest people gathered here. It feels like my heart has been grated for forty minutes.
Most of all, Anya's emotions and words responded to me. Everyone somehow forgot that she had not lived like a human being for thousands of years and that everything human was alien to her. And the words about the fact that Joyce will no longer be around and it's unclear what's next. For some reason, these words made it very painful
It's a cool episode, very atmospheric. Her friends, though, I would say they overdo it a little, Buffy's mother wasn't that close to them (however, they can be understood, although they save the world, they almost never really faced the death of their loved ones). But Buffy, especially at the beginning. It's very realistic, at such moments just such a reaction comes - shock, nonsense, you say, you do, you think... I liked that even the fight was without music - it seemed to show a different side of their lives. Personally, I often wonder if it's interesting to imagine that the characters don't hear the musical accompaniment, maybe it's not so logical for them, it's interesting.
@Hollyleaf: I mean, they're not close to Joyce, they used to hang out at Buffy's house all the time. Moreover, Zander and Will have terrible parents themselves, for them Joyce is like a substitute for a mother figure. Naturally, they are crushed. The same Tara Vaughn is much more calm, they don't know each other very well. Well, Anya has her own little tragedy of realizing mortality.
I already like Dawn for the most part, but it depresses me that in fact everything that happened before her, everything that happened to them, what we saw in the series is irrevocably forgotten by all the characters, the story is completely changed by one spell! It's just like in the "Facet" of these eternal comparisons with time and reality. It's interesting how things happened with Dawn, but many of the moments Buffy experienced back then were different. Now it turns out that we know one thing, and the characters know another. And overall, it's amazing how the spell, which Buffy soon found out about anyway, so dramatically changed the memories of EVERYONE who communicated with Dawn. It's clear that there have been similar spells before, but how they just actually reinvented their memories... It's scary.
For a moment, I didn't understand why Joyce's eyes were open the whole episode. They're supposed to be closed, aren't they? But the actress Joyce played great, she didn't sigh or blink even once.
The episode was written and directed by series creator Joss Whedon. The episode received widespread acclaim and was critically acclaimed as one of the best television episodes in history.
I cried the whole episode, it's very noticeable that the script was written by someone who went through such an experience, and here it is, frightening realism and such ringing silence throughout the series.
Joyce never liked her, but realizing how hard it would be for Buffy and Dawn without their mom now…A series that I probably won't be able to revisit in the future.
I knew Joyce was going to die, and I knew in which season, but I absolutely did not expect this episode to be so realistic... Buffy's complete confusion at the beginning is well conveyed by both Sarah Michelle and the director: the camera moves too jerkily, the unnaturally bright light, the lack of soundtracks, the moment where they arrive The doctors, and Buffy talks to them, but she can't see their faces. It was too much like the real reaction when you lose your loved ones. It seems that I will never review this episode. I also liked Anya's monologue, where she realized her own mortality.
The point of dividing the series into BEFORE and AFTER. DO is a fun teen series that, although it grew up with the viewer, still remained a youth series. AFTER THAT, a frankly adult drama. Though with gaps. And that's his genius, too.
And if you look at the similarity of the names Joss and Joyce, you can see the deep symbolism in all this.
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60Real human pain and sorrow.
Everything is simple and human.
And that makes it even sadder.
But at the same time, the lightness of previous events is felt precisely against the background of this series, they are also great in dramatic terms (the same Oz, Angel, etc.). It's more about the power of this series.
p.s. The scene with the vampire at the end showed the difference even more. Not only the acting, but also such moments make the series great. Thanks to Whedon.
Very strongly.
But in general, Whedon likes to confront his characters with reality through the sudden deaths of the main characters. Memento mori.
Change the screensaver to a silent title and remove the theme from the credits and there will be a complete tower.
Every scene, all the dialogue, the acting, the almost complete absence of background sounds - everything makes it so painfully real.
No one is to blame, it just happened, and how to behave is unclear. The reactions of each character are superbly spelled out. Personally, I was most touched - suddenly - by Anya's attitude to what was happening, this helplessness and bewilderment.
The most titled drama could be proud of such a series, but for a fantastic series it's simple... Well, fantastic.
An absolute masterpiece.
Because that's the way it is.
This series is as brilliant as it is terrible. I've watched a lot of TV shows and movies, I've seen death on screen and fictional relatives crying many times, my favorite characters died and I cried as if they were real, but never before has anyone forced me to experience the worst fear in my life as if it were happening to me. I thought I wouldn't survive those 40 minutes. Actually, I don't even know how to watch the series anymore. If Whedon decides to share his personal experiences through the series again, I'm afraid it won't end with one panic attack.
It is very creepy from scenes with silence.
Vedon, bravo
And the series is very unusual, it stands out from the rest, I won't say whether I liked it or not, it's just different. It's like the director decided to try something new.
I feel it even more now than I did at a younger age.
It seems to me that in the history of television this is one of the most painful ideas about the death of a parent.
I imagined myself in Buffy's place and tears flowed without ceasing from the realization that one day this would happen to me.
All the actors played very realistically. Every character has a soul-tearing scene: how Willow doesn't know what to wear, how Zender doesn't understand how everything can happen so easily, how Anya in general doesn't understand what it means to lose a loved one and what grief is…
But Sarah... Buffy's feelings are just tearing to the guts.
One of the best episodes of the entire series, but it's also terrible... terrible in its authenticity.
I noticed that Zander hugged Giles, although he usually only hugs girls, hugging men is awkward for him. And Anya hugged Giles.
I was touched by how Zander joked after Anya's clumsy condolences, tried to give her at least some instructions.
The vampire at the end feels like a horror because of the oppressive atmosphere, it was very scary for Dawn.
Although it would seem.
Spike was missing, but it's clear that no one called him, especially after the previous episode. Only the closest people gathered here.
It feels like my heart has been grated for forty minutes.
Well, Anya has her own little tragedy of realizing mortality.
And overall, it's amazing how the spell, which Buffy soon found out about anyway, so dramatically changed the memories of EVERYONE who communicated with Dawn. It's clear that there have been similar spells before, but how they just actually reinvented their memories... It's scary.
I don't think she's needed here at all.
Joyce never liked her, but realizing how hard it would be for Buffy and Dawn without their mom now…A series that I probably won't be able to revisit in the future.
I also liked Anya's monologue, where she realized her own mortality.
DO is a fun teen series that, although it grew up with the viewer, still remained a youth series.
AFTER THAT, a frankly adult drama. Though with gaps.
And that's his genius, too.
And if you look at the similarity of the names Joss and Joyce, you can see the deep symbolism in all this.