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s07e17 — Lies My Parents Told Me

Buffy the Vampire Slayer — s07e17 — Lies My Parents Told Me

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Duration: 43 min.
Released: 25.03.200326.03.2003 04:00
Watched by: 20 58857.92%
7 season
s07e17
s07e13 - The Killer in Me
s07e14 - First Date
s07e15 - Get It Done
s07e16 - Storyteller
s07e17 - Lies My Parents Told Me
s07e18 - Dirty Girls
s07e19 - Empty Places
s07e20 - Touched
s07e21 - End of Days

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yuric
yuric
29 Oct 2015, 20:10 #
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Roland23
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14 Sep 2016, 00:46 #
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SvetlanaNikitina
SvetlanaNikitina
21 Jan 2018, 13:58 #
@yuric: On the contrary, I think. The closer to the end, the more interesting it became. It's the same with the "Angel".
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pertweelove33
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22 Jul 2018, 00:50 #
What a disgusting, useless character this Wood is. It would be better to finally return Drusilla and come up with something with her, it would be much more interesting.
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yulchataj
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10 Feb 2019, 02:47 #
Buffy is amazing this season. Around the devil-and-what's going on, and she's like a rock - I see a goal, believe in myself, make decisions, make plans, manipulate, inspire, send nah. Daughter of Tomiris and Alexander the Great, damn.
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bbgon
bbgon
31 Aug 2019, 14:20 #
Spike, or rather, William before the transformation - it's always good! Mom was right, as he was a sentimental romantic, he stayed that way, only matured a little. It is logical that such a character subsequently decided on exploits for the sake of love.
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SantaJul
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15 Dec 2021, 00:34 #
I love Spike episodes and I'm always glad to see Others!

I did not expect Giles, not only was the character shown little, but they also spoiled it. I don't understand why it's so hard to believe in Spike, it wasn't like that with Angel. Spike has already proved a thousand times that he is different, how many times he has saved them all.

It took me a moment to realize that we were talking about Fred from Angel.
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БеарБлю
БеарБлю
18 Dec 2021, 17:03 #
It was only upon revision that I realized that Spike's mom was Serena van der Woodsen's grandmother. Rather, it is the same actress Caroline Lagerfeld.
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irengree
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14 Apr 2023, 11:14 #
@Bearbloo: oh, and I was just watching the whole episode and wondering where I could have seen her)
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MoneyBarney
MoneyBarney
12 Mar 2022, 06:59 #
A very interesting and significant series that reveals to a greater extent the essence and character of Spike. The person he was before the conversion is really capable of actions for the sake of love, and this explains a lot, even the fact that being without a soul, they still remained true to their nature.
I really like Buffy's serious attitude this season, the jokes are over, and you need to be always collected, strong to serve as an example for others.
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Zigarette
Zigarette
03 May 2022, 13:09 #
It's amazing how most vampires change with transformation, how Angelus changed after receiving a soul, but Spike... More precisely, William... In a way, he was always himself. Doesn't that speak to the strength of his character? He has always been able to fight against inner demons. And it's not even about the stupid chip or the presence of a soul. Just imagine the same Angelus with the same chip. Would he try to help the slayer out of nothing to do? Could you fall in love with her? To die for her? To keep promises even after her death, with no hope of returning? No, he would have gone out of his way to find a way to kill Buffy, and he definitely wouldn't have gone to her for help like Spike did. It was easier with Liam: Angelus is black, Angel is white. But with Spike, when everything is gray, no one wants to figure out the shades. Only Buffy seemed to understand. It's a pity it's so late...
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Iradakzlv
Iradakzlv
30 May 2023, 14:29 #
Probably the only episode where Giles disappointed, and I didn't support his actions. The director can be understood, Spike killed his mother, and it's hard for him to believe that a vampire can be on the side of good. In general, his Persian does not annoy me, as they unsubscribed above, but they clearly plan to merge him and make him bad - although he started well
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tvskrd
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02 Sep 2023, 10:30 #
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whale
whale
08 Dec 2023, 12:22 #
The director's mother is so beautiful
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tevladka
tevladka
14 Dec 2023, 21:12 #
I didn't remember this episode at all, which is a terrible crime!

Firstly, I am always delighted with some new information about Spike's human life, so the line with his mother is a real treasure trove!
Secondly, again, I can't help but draw parallels between Spike and Angel. The second one immediately killed his entire family (like all of them? I remember exactly for my father, but he seemed to have a younger brother or sister), and Spike immediately decided to be with his mother forever! Well, even as a demon, he wanted to cure her and travel with two beloved women together (although I laughed at Drusilla's expression when Spike told her about it, and I can't blame her for this reaction). That is, Spike has really always been devoted and capable of great and true love. Yes, you can say, well, he eventually killed his mother anyway, but no, he killed the demon. Because his mother, alas, did die with the transformation into a vampire. And Spike managed to preserve the most important thing in himself - the ability to love, I don't know how, but he did (or maybe it was because he was a terrible sentimental romantic, as his mother said). That's why I'll always consider him and Buffy a much better couple than Buffy and Angela.


And the way Buffy believes from Spike can't help but touch. Naturally, she does not realize this, but she already loves him. Because only loved ones are so fiercely protected. She didn't even defend Angel like that. And when she told the director that Spike would kill him if he climbed again and she didn't stop him—that was the final proof of that for me!
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tevladka
tevladka
14 Dec 2023, 21:18 #
And yes: shame of you, Giles! I love you very much, but you're being unfair to Spike! Buffy also cited Angel as an example. A suffering schmuck who is able to be kind only with his soul. He's not even worth a pinky Spike.
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lest_forget
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21 Feb 16:23 #
Да, тут Джайлз не прав, тем более что чип действительно никак не помог, когда Спайк убивал людей в этом сезоне. И Баффи права, это несправедливо не дать ему шанса, ведь теперь у него есть душа. В остальном я не соглашусь с большинством. Директор мне когда-то тоже не нравился, но теперь я передумала. Действительно жаль его, ведь Спайк убил его маму и совершенно понятно его желание отомстить, да и кто бы не захотел это сделать? Сам Спайк тоже разочаровал в этой серии. Особенно когда во время драки с Вудом он говорит про его мать, что ни о чем не сожалеет и что "она знала, на что шла". Сразу припоминаются фразочки, аля "да она сама виновата". Какого хрена? Как будто она выбирала быть истребительницей, ведь мы уже прекрасно знаем, что после смерти одной истребительницы - ей становится кто-то еще именно по воле случая, а не потому что кто-то так рвется занять место предыдущей. Я сейчас не защищаю Ангела, он мне тоже не особо нравился, но Ангел всегда сожалел о своем прошлом и обо всем зле, что он натворил. А про Спайка так не скажешь и вообще не сильно заметно, что он переменился. Единственное - да, он больше не убивает людей (ну, не считая когда Первичное его провоцировало в начале сезона) и вроде пытается стать лучше, но на этом все. Кстати, плащ, который Спайк взял как трофей, когда убил Никки, он снова надевает в конце, это вообще ни разу не адекватно с его стороны.
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areyoukiddingme
areyoukiddingme
30 Mar 14:39 #
@lest_forget: I didn't notice that he had put on his raincoat again. horror. he really suffered for the first time about what he had done in the past, but not for long, and that was because the first evil came to him and drove him crazy. and now Spike doesn't really care what he was doing there. sadly
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tiertich
tiertich
11 Mar 00:24 #
Spike Spike Spike Spike Spike spike. Even Giles will be kicked out because Spike. He's the strongest because we forgot about the other characters, including the potential imperfect killers, who were half full, and the strong Vikanka, who was also forgotten. Blevontina.
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