Even the weakest cowards were undermined. The evil of the world should clearly learn from global terrorism. Although it's funny that even bearded, uneducated, brainwashed fanatics can make a normal bomb, unlike "super-duper EVIL."
Of course I didn't watch Angel, maybe they met there every episode, but damn. He's only shown up a couple of times and Buffy throws herself at him. Old love doesn't rust, well, just that much? 😁
And no one even apologized to Buffy, only with Faith it turned out to be more or less a conversation where each understood the other. And the rest continue to be hypocritical, as if they did not kick Buffy out of the house. It turned out to be a very sincere conversation with Spike, for the first time ever, both of them looked at each other like that, with such admiration. A pleasant scene. But in the end, everything was ruined by a kiss with an Angel, we could have just hugged. Of course, I understood that Buffy loved him for a long time after Angel left, but to this day, and to this extent. It's a little unclear, everyone already has their own life, and a lot has happened. It's doubly frustrating that Spike saw it all.
No, no, no, no!!! Why was it necessary to return the Angel ((( Well, this is not the coat anymore, Buffy is not the same anymore, they don't enter the same river so many times((
I knew that Angel was going to Buffy, I knew that they would kiss triumphantly and absolutely for fuck's sake (for fuck's sake, because whoever watched Angel knows that Angie had various complicated relationships with several women at once, even another love for one of them), I ALREADY knew That Spike would see them, but I still hoped that it would be somehow different. This scene is so treacherous in a way. To let Spike get so close, to let him feel for the first time in his life that he really means something to the person he loves unconditionally, to give hope. And then stick a knife in his back, showing that no matter how much he loved, no matter how hard he tried, no matter what he did for Buffy... She would always choose Angel, even if they couldn't have a future. But you can't tell your heart to, can you? It's just a pity that Spike had to go through this.
Maybe Spike deserved the pain. But the "William" inside him is not.
P.S. I wanted to write so much in this comment because there were still a lot of thoughts, but this series has already exhausted me so emotionally that everything turned into chaos, and my head started to hurt. The only thing that keeps spinning on the tongue is a quote from the book. I think I'll just leave her here.
"The strongest love is unrequited. I would rather never know this, but this is the truth: there is nothing worse than loving someone who does not love you - and at the same time, nothing more beautiful than this has ever happened to me in my life. Loving someone who loves you is narcissism. To love someone who doesn't love you– wow, that's love. I wanted a test, an experience, a kind of meeting with myself that would change me: to my regret, everything came true beyond all expectations. I fell in love with a girl who doesn't love me, and fell out of love with the one who loves me. I use women to hate myself."
Beautiful words! Actually, this is the moment that characterizes for me the fact that Buffy doesn't like Spike. If she had loved him and let the Angel go, this kiss would not have happened. She has all kinds of feelings for Spike: pity, gratitude, guilt, friendship, excitement, they are close people, they have been through so much... but not love ( That's why this cycle exists: Angel doesn't love her (or doesn't love her as much as she loves him), Buffy still loves/hasn't let go of Angel, Spike loves Buffy.
I just want to distract you from the terrible end of the series and remind you about the trip to the hospital and the battle in the wheelchairs of Anya and Andrew, they have a funny line in this series :)
I share the indignation about the appearance of the Angel. They've been cooling off for a long time, each in their "own" city. And after such a night with Spike, kissing an Angel?! If you just put it down to the stress of fighting with Caleb. This conversation with Spike is incomprehensible to me. Yes, he was used to her running away after intimacy and being afraid to let hope in again, but Buffy...Why didn't she tell me how she felt? What to expect if every moment can be the last?
I'm also shocked from the final kiss with the Angel. What is it? And this is after such a conversation with Spike? Buffy, really?! I'm so excited that you fell in love with Spike in return, and then you take it and do it. But if you put aside emotions and think with your head, I can explain it by habit and adrenaline. And this time I watched Angel in parallel - he has his own Santa Barbara there (worse than all the heroes combined here). Well, how long can you pull this bagpipe already? I can't believe that the relationship with an Angel that she had when she was 16-18 years old is the love of her life. Especially after everything that happened to Buffy after their breakup. And coming back to Spike, how perfectly frank and vulnerable he is when talking to Buffy. And it seems that she gave him not just a false hope, but a real REASON to wait for something in return, and then we get this. So I agree with the Original "That bitch"!
And a kiss with an Angel is nonsense, and Spike, who was sitting there all this time (even before the Angel appeared) and did not even think to help Buffy.
There are so many mistakes in general. A little spoiler for the last episode, if you can call it that. I wouldn't name it. In it, Buffy again changes shoes 33 times during the final battle. It's just wildly striking. Then she's wearing heels, then jumping on and off the bus in different shoes, but the final scene is she's back in heels. There, all the heels would just instantly break from jumping from such a height. And Buffy is not the only one. Dawn, who has no strength, also dressed up in heels. And of course, during the next apocalypse, the most important thing is to be beautiful (by the way, a couple of episodes ago she said how she wants to wear heels more often and be beautiful, if someone else paid attention). And they put it in our subconscious that no matter what happens, stay beautiful. This is despite the fact that there is no one left in the city, and no one will see you except those who have known you for a long time. But, apparently, the main task was to make the main characters outwardly attractive. So that men would be pleased to look at, and women would be equal and apply to themselves. That's why I don't like old TV shows anymore. Here you are growing up, watching a similar series since childhood, you like the image of the main character, you want to be like her. But at the same time, you are endlessly shown how she wakes up already made up, especially with eternal gloss on her lips (as if without it, women's lips are so terrible), endless apocalypses, while everyone is always made up, perfectly dressed in beautiful clothes and uncomfortable shoes, seriously? Several times during the series, they even tell you what kind of underwear Buffy wears - an uncomfortable thong. And okay, there are still some Enchanted ones (although there was excessive time devoted to beauty). They were witches and used spells more, but there were always fights and all this supposedly on heels. When this series was filmed and aired on TV / DVD in 4:3 format, respectively, as worse than it is now possible to watch - the creators expected that no one would notice the substitution of shoes during fights, jumping from a great height, etc. But now everything is perfectly visible. But what they wanted to achieve, they achieved. Brainwashed people have already learned the model of behavior and standards of beauty. And how can I be grateful for all this brainwashing? It took so many years to get rid of gender stereotypes, to work it out in yourself. So much time is wasted on endless beauty guidance, even stupidly on endless shaving and hair removal wherever possible. This year, I'm finally done with that, too. Yes, I don't shave anymore and I don't care. Let anyone spit, but for 19 damn years I spent a lot of time shaving daily, using an epilator, painting nails, etc., etc. I've had enough. I could have spent all this time with much more benefit, on self-development, for example. But now it's just been wasted. The love for old TV shows is not the same as before, it's time to stop with these revisions. And you can't live with nostalgia forever, you need to move forward.
I really like reading your comments, I fully support your idea that women have been overly sexualized and sexualized in movies, but let's not forget that Buffy the Vampire Slayer is a series that is a reflection of the era. If you turn on any show on MTV, or a movie/TV series of those years, then in principle you will not see a woman who walks/performs in sneakers and hoodies, simply because at that time it was not fashionable, and no one dressed like that. In my opinion, the style of the main characters is perfectly spelled out. As for Buffy, in the first seasons she dresses like an ordinary schoolgirl of those times, yes, she wears short skirts and tight T-shirts, like Cordelia, heels, because she is interested in fashion and wants to be modern. She tells Giles in the first seasons, "Giles, I want to live," and that's why she goes to the parade to fight demons, because she doesn't have as much time as Cordelia to lead an ordinary life and show herself to ordinary society, so she can pile on a vampire in a short skirt, and then on the way home, meet a nice guy and she will be at the parade. At the same time, in the series, when she kills an Angel and is depressed, the style reflects her well-being, she just walks in sneakers, a T-shirt and a denim jacket, and she is not wearing a make-up. Then her style develops, becomes more romantic, when she goes to college, she already wears long skirts, she becomes a more social person, and already goes to wet vampires in a leather jacket and jeans. Faith has leather trousers and a cleavage-a business card, she is wild, sexy, and takes what she wants, she is a leader and will never adjust to a man, Buff is softer, and their difference in style also speaks about the contrast of their natures. In the last season, Buffy has come a long way, has grown as a person, she works at a decent job and has a business style of clothing that emphasizes this. As for heels, yes, it's uncomfortable to wet demons and fight on them, but Buffy is not really a person, she rarely eats and sleeps for 2 hours, apparently, I think that heels are the least of the evils here. For example, Willow generally wears heels only in a few episodes, and initially she had the image of such a blue stocking-she always raced in sneakers. Now she has grown up too, and her style has transformed into a more adult, but comfortable one. And Xander is a shirt guy and this is also reflected in his clothes. Well, since Buffy is now a businesswoman, let's be honest, a blouse, classic trousers, and, for example, sneakers would be out of place. In those days, only those who forgot to change their shoes after physical education dressed like that. To show how she changes shoes a hundred times is unnecessary and uninteresting to anyone, it does not affect the plot. After all, we are not watching sex in the big city) Thongs are also a reflection of that time, women mostly wore them, not paying attention to inconveniences. I'll also add about shoes, for example, "Emily in Paris" is a modern TV series where the main character does not fight demons, but wears heels 24/7. I have more questions for the creator of this series, to be honest, because the fashion industry is developing badly and high-heeled shoes are no longer the main attribute, as before) As for makeup, it is also a reflection of the character of the main characters. Note that this season, Buffy is almost not made up, unlike the first ones, which shows that she already has it and is not particularly a priority, and there is no time for make-up. The fact that they are all made up in the series, how to wake up-yes, a joint. The same as stand-ins/stuntmen, vampires who can and can't breathe, etc. It seems to me that Buffy is a great role model for a girl, and the point is not to be like her externally, but to try to have such fortitude and the desire to go to victory.
Although it's funny that even bearded, uneducated, brainwashed fanatics can make a normal bomb, unlike "super-duper EVIL."
That's what he came for, and everything is fine without him.
It turned out to be a very sincere conversation with Spike, for the first time ever, both of them looked at each other like that, with such admiration. A pleasant scene.
But in the end, everything was ruined by a kiss with an Angel, we could have just hugged. Of course, I understood that Buffy loved him for a long time after Angel left, but to this day, and to this extent. It's a little unclear, everyone already has their own life, and a lot has happened. It's doubly frustrating that Spike saw it all.
Maybe Spike deserved the pain. But the "William" inside him is not.
P.S. I wanted to write so much in this comment because there were still a lot of thoughts, but this series has already exhausted me so emotionally that everything turned into chaos, and my head started to hurt. The only thing that keeps spinning on the tongue is a quote from the book. I think I'll just leave her here.
"The strongest love is unrequited. I would rather never know this, but this is the truth: there is nothing worse than loving someone who does not love you - and at the same time, nothing more beautiful than this has ever happened to me in my life. Loving someone who loves you is narcissism. To love someone who doesn't love you– wow, that's love. I wanted a test, an experience, a kind of meeting with myself that would change me: to my regret, everything came true beyond all expectations. I fell in love with a girl who doesn't love me, and fell out of love with the one who loves me. I use women to hate myself."
Actually, this is the moment that characterizes for me the fact that Buffy doesn't like Spike. If she had loved him and let the Angel go, this kiss would not have happened. She has all kinds of feelings for Spike: pity, gratitude, guilt, friendship, excitement, they are close people, they have been through so much... but not love (
That's why this cycle exists: Angel doesn't love her (or doesn't love her as much as she loves him), Buffy still loves/hasn't let go of Angel, Spike loves Buffy.
This conversation with Spike is incomprehensible to me. Yes, he was used to her running away after intimacy and being afraid to let hope in again, but Buffy...Why didn't she tell me how she felt? What to expect if every moment can be the last?
I even forgot about the wheelchair battle ((
And coming back to Spike, how perfectly frank and vulnerable he is when talking to Buffy. And it seems that she gave him not just a false hope, but a real REASON to wait for something in return, and then we get this. So I agree with the Original "That bitch"!
There are so many mistakes in general. A little spoiler for the last episode, if you can call it that. I wouldn't name it. In it, Buffy again changes shoes 33 times during the final battle. It's just wildly striking. Then she's wearing heels, then jumping on and off the bus in different shoes, but the final scene is she's back in heels. There, all the heels would just instantly break from jumping from such a height. And Buffy is not the only one. Dawn, who has no strength, also dressed up in heels. And of course, during the next apocalypse, the most important thing is to be beautiful (by the way, a couple of episodes ago she said how she wants to wear heels more often and be beautiful, if someone else paid attention). And they put it in our subconscious that no matter what happens, stay beautiful. This is despite the fact that there is no one left in the city, and no one will see you except those who have known you for a long time. But, apparently, the main task was to make the main characters outwardly attractive. So that men would be pleased to look at, and women would be equal and apply to themselves. That's why I don't like old TV shows anymore. Here you are growing up, watching a similar series since childhood, you like the image of the main character, you want to be like her. But at the same time, you are endlessly shown how she wakes up already made up, especially with eternal gloss on her lips (as if without it, women's lips are so terrible), endless apocalypses, while everyone is always made up, perfectly dressed in beautiful clothes and uncomfortable shoes, seriously? Several times during the series, they even tell you what kind of underwear Buffy wears - an uncomfortable thong. And okay, there are still some Enchanted ones (although there was excessive time devoted to beauty). They were witches and used spells more, but there were always fights and all this supposedly on heels. When this series was filmed and aired on TV / DVD in 4:3 format, respectively, as worse than it is now possible to watch - the creators expected that no one would notice the substitution of shoes during fights, jumping from a great height, etc. But now everything is perfectly visible. But what they wanted to achieve, they achieved. Brainwashed people have already learned the model of behavior and standards of beauty. And how can I be grateful for all this brainwashing? It took so many years to get rid of gender stereotypes, to work it out in yourself. So much time is wasted on endless beauty guidance, even stupidly on endless shaving and hair removal wherever possible. This year, I'm finally done with that, too. Yes, I don't shave anymore and I don't care. Let anyone spit, but for 19 damn years I spent a lot of time shaving daily, using an epilator, painting nails, etc., etc. I've had enough. I could have spent all this time with much more benefit, on self-development, for example. But now it's just been wasted. The love for old TV shows is not the same as before, it's time to stop with these revisions. And you can't live with nostalgia forever, you need to move forward.
In my opinion, the style of the main characters is perfectly spelled out. As for Buffy, in the first seasons she dresses like an ordinary schoolgirl of those times, yes, she wears short skirts and tight T-shirts, like Cordelia, heels, because she is interested in fashion and wants to be modern. She tells Giles in the first seasons, "Giles, I want to live," and that's why she goes to the parade to fight demons, because she doesn't have as much time as Cordelia to lead an ordinary life and show herself to ordinary society, so she can pile on a vampire in a short skirt, and then on the way home, meet a nice guy and she will be at the parade.
At the same time, in the series, when she kills an Angel and is depressed, the style reflects her well-being, she just walks in sneakers, a T-shirt and a denim jacket, and she is not wearing a make-up.
Then her style develops, becomes more romantic, when she goes to college, she already wears long skirts, she becomes a more social person, and already goes to wet vampires in a leather jacket and jeans. Faith has leather trousers and a cleavage-a business card, she is wild, sexy, and takes what she wants, she is a leader and will never adjust to a man, Buff is softer, and their difference in style also speaks about the contrast of their natures.
In the last season, Buffy has come a long way, has grown as a person, she works at a decent job and has a business style of clothing that emphasizes this.
As for heels, yes, it's uncomfortable to wet demons and fight on them, but Buffy is not really a person, she rarely eats and sleeps for 2 hours, apparently, I think that heels are the least of the evils here.
For example, Willow generally wears heels only in a few episodes, and initially she had the image of such a blue stocking-she always raced in sneakers. Now she has grown up too, and her style has transformed into a more adult, but comfortable one. And Xander is a shirt guy and this is also reflected in his clothes.
Well, since Buffy is now a businesswoman, let's be honest, a blouse, classic trousers, and, for example, sneakers would be out of place. In those days, only those who forgot to change their shoes after physical education dressed like that.
To show how she changes shoes a hundred times is unnecessary and uninteresting to anyone, it does not affect the plot. After all, we are not watching sex in the big city) Thongs are also a reflection of that time, women mostly wore them, not paying attention to inconveniences.
I'll also add about shoes, for example, "Emily in Paris" is a modern TV series where the main character does not fight demons, but wears heels 24/7. I have more questions for the creator of this series, to be honest, because the fashion industry is developing badly and high-heeled shoes are no longer the main attribute, as before)
As for makeup, it is also a reflection of the character of the main characters. Note that this season, Buffy is almost not made up, unlike the first ones, which shows that she already has it and is not particularly a priority, and there is no time for make-up. The fact that they are all made up in the series, how to wake up-yes, a joint. The same as stand-ins/stuntmen, vampires who can and can't breathe, etc.
It seems to me that Buffy is a great role model for a girl, and the point is not to be like her externally, but to try to have such fortitude and the desire to go to victory.