The abuser monster got hit on the cocoons! We rejoice, comrades.
The project for the sale of virginity - well, somehow quite radical.
I wonder how they are going to sort out all the lines in one episode. They have accumulated a lot, but it is also desirable to show the consequences, and not just point a finger at the perpetrators.
They excluded all the husbands for the role of father, with the exception of one. Apparently, everything will be exactly as predictable as it was predicted. Although it's still very interesting how all this will unfold further
And I hope they won't drag out the mystery of the murderer/murdered for the second season
There are 544 pages in the book, the whole action itself was dragged up to 500, and then everything was dumped on the last pages. There's this quiz night at the very end. It can be seen in the series the same way, they will dump everything 20 minutes before the end. And I was so hoping that it wouldn't be delayed until the last episode.
Why was it necessary to do this line with Madeline's betrayal in the series? To show how she's not perfect? She's not Miss Perfect in the book either. And the line with Abigail was not fully opened, she said half the book how right she was now, she was doing yoga, she became a vegan, she was all inspired by people's problems, and then they didn't open it normally at all. And it turned out that this project is neither for the village nor for the city. She even took the bed from the house, "I'm going to my father and Bonnie, goodbye, the bed is coming with me." The book was cut too much, interesting places were removed, why? T-T Jane's experiences in the series are more powerful and spectacular. Yes, it's a plus for the series, not the book. But according to the book, it was more interesting with this Saxon, why change it? From this, this situation has only lost. It has become more primitive.
We are waiting for the last episode, we will see the conflict and the denouement. I hope nothing will change here. I believe and expect that the quiz night will begin not 20 minutes before the end of the series.
@mimikain: you see, for those who have not read the book, it does not matter at all how it was, and whether it corresponds to the original source. And those who have read it thanks to the series will be able to draw their own conclusions.
@mimikain: I'm interested, thank you! What's with the quiz night? After all, here the story seems to be about the impending carnival (like there will be masks).
@olivka_1: in the original, it is called trivia night, that is, it really translates as a quiz night, where everyone is divided into groups and answers thematic questions. only they have this trivia night tied to costumes as well. that is, not only the issues are thematic, but you should also be dressed accordingly)
@olivka_1: We have already answered below that for the evening of quizzes. A costume meeting for a quiz. But it was different with Saxon, he's Perry's cousin in the book. Their mothers are twins. Celeste knows him well, and therefore in the book she rushes and does not know what to do. Since Saxon Banks is an exemplary family man, he has a wife and children. She was wondering if she should talk to Saxon or his wife, or maybe better say Perry, because his brother is such a monster. And here's just a stranger, just some kind of Saxons. And the intensity of the drama is decreasing. It's a shame even.
@mimikain: + what was done to Madeleine. their couple in the book was an outlet, their love was very sweet, and then the love was gone, the tomatoes withered.. by the way, they also had a son according to the book, who for some unknown reason was not inserted into the series at all, well, okay...
After the release of episode 4, I couldn't stand the tension/ expectation, and still read the original book to find out what happened there in the end. As a result of reading: now I understand the fans of the book in some ways, the creators of the TV adaptation of the original plot did not adhere to everything. In the series, for example, the relationship between Ed and Madeleine is shown in a completely different way, which causes me a small lump of indignation. As a result of reading in the middle of watching: but it was shot anyway, it's gorgeous. The atmosphere of the book is conveyed, a pleasant picture to the eye, with soundtracks perfectly matched to what is happening on the screen. I won't say anything about castes at all, where else will you see such a gathering of stars? Despite the slight inconsistencies with the book, probably "Big Little Lies" will be included in the list of the best adaptations I've seen, although I usually, like a boring bookworm and an old grandmother, grumble at the differences on the pages of the original and on the screen.
@whatever21: I haven't read the book and I'm just watching the series, but I'm scared purely because of the last phrase about a grumpy old grandmother. I'm the same myself, and I always prefer to read first and then watch the film adaptations. An unreasonable person is just))
@juliaka96: secondly, a person is unreasonable and hated by many when viewing, when you are outraged, "but it wasn't like that in the book!!!!". I understand you)))
I have only one thought all the time - HOW DO THEY HAVE SUCH HOUSES, despite the fact that no one really works? Well, that is, making websites and teaching yoga is so far the only job even mentioned in the series.
@skosichkami: as an inheritance from rich relatives, there could be only one house left. Others have mortgages at ridiculous interest rates for 20 years. In different ways, they acquire expensive real estate there
@skosichkami: those who have this condition rarely work for five days from 9 to 6: they have meetings, negotiations, business, business trips, so apparently they get the impression that they are sitting at home.
@skosichkami: well, one IT technician is currently the highest paid job. Renata, her husband and Perry are rich in fact - it doesn't matter for the storyline what kind of business they have, even if it's selling diapers. Who's staying? Bonnie teaches yoga, Nathan can also have a normal jab. Well, the heroine Shailene lives in a very cheap house for an accountant. That's really in this series, in my opinion, everything is logical in terms of money / housing. There are many other series where everything is not so, to put it mildly.
@SvetlanaMorgan: this is an admission of one's own mistake. Madeline wanted her daughter to understand that she was not just a parent for her, but a person with her own joints, even if she was already an adult. That even at her age they make irreparable mistakes, and even more so at 17. She "descended" to her level, and this conversation was not between a parent and a daughter, but between two people of the same age and status. I think this is a big step for Madeline, I didn't expect it from her.
This is not about good deeds. The daughter always saw perfection in her mother, so she decided to immediately take a swing at some global problem - to fight sex traffic. Madeleine told her in plain text that, yes, her goal is noble and important, but no goal is worth "throwing away" your body (whether you are a virgin or not is not important). And the example of treason was given precisely in order to dispel in the eyes of her daughter the image that she had formed about her mother.
I really like that Skarsgard was chosen for the role of the abusive husband. A handsome sexy man, and in the first series you even think that it is impossible not to forgive such a thing, well, you think he grabbed his hand. And now you sincerely hate him and want him to get the retribution he deserves. Which proves once again that no matter how visually you are, in the end it only matters what kind of person you are. Because you get used to beauty (as well as ugliness) pretty quickly.
Great show. It's a pity that there's only one episode left.
@Lyizenok: It's hardly just that. Perry earns well, they have two children, whom he clearly loves very much, and she most likely believes that it is pure selfishness to leave and destroy the family, depriving the children of their father. She looks at all this as her own inconvenience, but for the sake of the children, she can be patient. Even with a psychologist, she talks about it all the time. But when her husband said that she was lucky that he didn't kill her, enlightenment finally came. Plus, I do not know how she is financially and with what money she will rent that house... although, of course, she seems to be a good lawyer, she probably has savings.
@Carrie-Mathison: I don't think she has any money. Based on the book, she was squandering Perry's money there. In the literal sense, she was a spender. I could easily spend 25 thousand at a time, I could spend 100 thousand at a time. I think the house was rented with Perry's money. He did not control her by the book at all, he just received messages that 20 thousand, 25, 100 were written off. That's all.
At the psychologist's appointment, Celeste said that Perry was very supportive of her morally during the period when she had one miscarriage after another. So the moral side of the issue also plays a role here. I think Celeste also had a "conflict" in her mind because of this... It beats, but it used to be a support.
@k1ryusha: yeah, yeah. And how long they tried to get pregnant, how long-awaited and long-suffering children are, this also affects. When you've already invested so much in this relationship, it's hard to say goodbye to everything and start over. Especially when your self-esteem has been leveled for years.
I can't stop being amazed by the beauty of the picture, the acting, and the fact that I still can't guess who was killed. I'm thinking about one person, and at the same time I stop myself: what if it's not him? After watching the book, I will read it to consolidate the result, although thanks to the comments I understand that the book and the series differ in some details)
@nellyfila: The girl would regret it all her life and blame her mother and father for everything that the fool did not stop her. What if a 50-year-old pervert guy had bought it? Would you like your daughter to lose her virginity not for love, but with some guy for money? Even for charity. After all, the buyer could demand everything in full from the girl.
@k1ryusha: Even so, this girl would forever remain known as the girl who wanted to sell her virginity. And if it hadn't happened, no one would have cared. I think in the future it could turn out at the most inopportune moment.
The fact that Jane has already seen all the characters except Perry is suspicious. And, of course, his behavior with his wife, and the eternal trips, too. Well, let's see. The series is great, exciting!
Witherspoon finally got a moment of fame. Kidman has already received it in scenes with a psychologist. As for me, it's not necessary for Ziggy's father to be one of the characters at all - it's just going to be a piano in the bushes. It is better to leave this issue unresolved - there is clearly no focus on it. And, of course, I didn't even expect to see an HBO series without a bare penis.
@Staskhramtsov: If it wasn't for your comment, I wouldn't have noticed. I reviewed it - and it really was, but I managed to look somewhere wrong, haha)
@Fincci: It won't be long there. As far as I remember, there was a moment in the kitchen (or not in the kitchen) when Kidman's husband was bothering her. About twenty minutes from the beginning of the episode.
For a long time nothing was clear in the previous episodes, by the end everything is more interesting and everything becomes clearer. The abuse is shown very coolly. It explains why women under the power of such men do not leave. Powerful! Now I want the next episode rather.
Interestingly, Perry is constantly playing monster with his children, because he is a monster. What a metaphor! After hitting with the racket, I thought that Celeste would be the victim, and there would be a lot of drama in that.
How interesting it is to watch. Yes, they show us the ordinary life that you and I live every day, with our joys and sorrows. But over time, the characters became family. I worry about their relationship more than about my own.
I still have no idea who the killer might be and who the victim might be. sometimes it seems that Celeste will not stand it and take a gun from Jane, shoot her husband, sometimes it seems that Ziggy's father will be Perry and Jane will kill him, or maybe someone is not the main character at all? in general, I'm running to watch the last episode, otherwise I'll break my head in guesses))
Abigail's project seemed completely absurd and stupid at first, but actually, if you don't bring it to the sexual act itself, the idea is just wonderful.
I caught myself thinking that in this episode I looked at Skarsgard's face for the first time. He plays with his body so well that you didn't even have to look at his face. It's creepy.
I love these second-long last moments in the series so much, it's a delight, how beautifully the series was shot! And also the delight that Celeste still decided to look at rented housing, it's incredibly hard for victims to admit that there is a problem, and even listen to the advice of a psychologist to overcome the situation . P.S. Their children with Perry are wildly infuriating, how much they contrast with the same clever Chloe
La, I'm sure they're going to kill that redhead's husband. In any case, he will encounter Jane for the first time and she will recognize him, in fact, and his wife will recognize him.
And now let's imagine how dangerous the idea of the project is. Given the very essence of the auction, it is obvious that not the healthiest people and far from the poorest will participate in it. The amounts would most likely be very large. Now on behalf of the girl: this is her first time, it will be as uncomfortable as possible for obvious reasons, with a high probability it will even be painful. As a result, she will cry / lie flat / maybe even resist, etc. (she will obviously not do what the sick person dreamed of). Eventually, a man may start behaving like a Peri, saying, "do you even know how much I paid for you? Come on, come on" It's scary and disgusting
Psychologist моя My favorite is here, definitely! How subtly she holds Celeste's fragile trust and conveys key thoughts to her. I am happy that Celeste is getting closer and closer to protecting herself and her children. I'm rooting for her. Jane молод good girl! I came to talk to Renata, which is what I didn't expect, but she was so young, but she turned out to be wiser and bolder than Madeline, Renata, Celeste and other mothers who are already older, more experienced, and some have more than one child. If Renata had started with such a conversation, the situation could have been resolved long ago.
Celeste had finally begun to act. I've already looked at the house, well done, listened to the psychologist. Skasgard causes fear even through the screen, you are constantly waiting for some trick from him
Why can't they just convey to Abi that the sale will be perceived by her psyche as rape, this is a trace for a lifetime, from which she will have to be treated by a psychiatrist for a VERY long time
I think it was high time for Jane to talk to Renata, because as it turned out, she is adequate, just ready to tear up everyone and everything for her child + Madeleine adds fuel to the fire.
This is probably the only series where I don't rewind the credits at the end, because the soundtrack is awesome. Skarsgard plays so well that from the very beginning of the series I wanted to hit him in the face with a racket. But it turned out even better here))
Discussion: Season 1, Episode 6 Join the Discussion
99The project for the sale of virginity - well, somehow quite radical.
I wonder how they are going to sort out all the lines in one episode. They have accumulated a lot, but it is also desirable to show the consequences, and not just point a finger at the perpetrators.
And I hope they won't drag out the mystery of the murderer/murdered for the second season
more interesting, who offended Amabella
Why was it necessary to do this line with Madeline's betrayal in the series? To show how she's not perfect? She's not Miss Perfect in the book either.
And the line with Abigail was not fully opened, she said half the book how right she was now, she was doing yoga, she became a vegan, she was all inspired by people's problems, and then they didn't open it normally at all. And it turned out that this project is neither for the village nor for the city. She even took the bed from the house, "I'm going to my father and Bonnie, goodbye, the bed is coming with me."
The book was cut too much, interesting places were removed, why? T-T
Jane's experiences in the series are more powerful and spectacular. Yes, it's a plus for the series, not the book. But according to the book, it was more interesting with this Saxon, why change it? From this, this situation has only lost. It has become more primitive.
We are waiting for the last episode, we will see the conflict and the denouement. I hope nothing will change here. I believe and expect that the quiz night will begin not 20 minutes before the end of the series.
What's with the quiz night? After all, here the story seems to be about the impending carnival (like there will be masks).
only they have this trivia night tied to costumes as well. that is, not only the issues are thematic, but you should also be dressed accordingly)
But it was different with Saxon, he's Perry's cousin in the book. Their mothers are twins. Celeste knows him well, and therefore in the book she rushes and does not know what to do. Since Saxon Banks is an exemplary family man, he has a wife and children. She was wondering if she should talk to Saxon or his wife, or maybe better say Perry, because his brother is such a monster. And here's just a stranger, just some kind of Saxons. And the intensity of the drama is decreasing. It's a shame even.
As a result of reading: now I understand the fans of the book in some ways, the creators of the TV adaptation of the original plot did not adhere to everything. In the series, for example, the relationship between Ed and Madeleine is shown in a completely different way, which causes me a small lump of indignation.
As a result of reading in the middle of watching: but it was shot anyway, it's gorgeous. The atmosphere of the book is conveyed, a pleasant picture to the eye, with soundtracks perfectly matched to what is happening on the screen. I won't say anything about castes at all, where else will you see such a gathering of stars? Despite the slight inconsistencies with the book, probably "Big Little Lies" will be included in the list of the best adaptations I've seen, although I usually, like a boring bookworm and an old grandmother, grumble at the differences on the pages of the original and on the screen.
Great show. It's a pity that there's only one episode left.
Plus, I do not know how she is financially and with what money she will rent that house... although, of course, she seems to be a good lawyer, she probably has savings.
I'm thinking about one person, and at the same time I stop myself: what if it's not him?
After watching the book, I will read it to consolidate the result, although thanks to the comments I understand that the book and the series differ in some details)
As for me, it's not necessary for Ziggy's father to be one of the characters at all - it's just going to be a piano in the bushes. It is better to leave this issue unresolved - there is clearly no focus on it.
And, of course, I didn't even expect to see an HBO series without a bare penis.
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After hitting with the racket, I thought that Celeste would be the victim, and there would be a lot of drama in that.
And I'm the only one who's really pissed off about Nathan. He's generally terrible
. P.S. Their children with Perry are wildly infuriating, how much they contrast with the same clever Chloe
Now on behalf of the girl: this is her first time, it will be as uncomfortable as possible for obvious reasons, with a high probability it will even be painful. As a result, she will cry / lie flat / maybe even resist, etc. (she will obviously not do what the sick person dreamed of).
Eventually, a man may start behaving like a Peri, saying, "do you even know how much I paid for you? Come on, come on"
It's scary and disgusting
but the scariest thing is that girls often practice this in their lives..
Jane молод good girl! I came to talk to Renata, which is what I didn't expect, but she was so young, but she turned out to be wiser and bolder than Madeline, Renata, Celeste and other mothers who are already older, more experienced, and some have more than one child. If Renata had started with such a conversation, the situation could have been resolved long ago.