@bredless: I agree, the ending was somehow crumpled up, the most epic between 25 and 40 minutes of the series. It's good that they didn't change those who detonated the bomb. A good ending to the series.)))
It was necessary to finish everything and everything quickly, and it was obvious that it would be crumpled, but this is still the most lively and interesting episode from the entire season. Yes, but the boy's remorse and awakened self-awareness turned out to be too sucked out of his finger - if Goodweiser had done everything, it would have been better. Well, hallelujah, that it's over - not to say that the series is completely bad, but it was a little far from good for him.
Finally, all the stupid Persians were leaked at once...Didn't I get it Fet and Dutch aren't together?Well, she held him like that when he wanted to detonate a bomb and these kisses, I hoped...
The most frequent season, fucking - good practices, fucking implementation of ideas. I don't want to fuck the ending, Zach's abrupt change is due to NOTHING, DAMN IT. Fucked up and shit.
@maximtv: Yes, the screenwriters thought about it with their ass and turned off the line for fuck's sake. That is, NOTHING bothered him for 9 episodes, but then he REMEMBERED, BITCH, THAT DAD WAS GOOD.
@Doctor_Joker: In the last episode, the Host showed super-cruelty, admitted that everything with people is a masquerade, began to kill everyone, turning them into his army, if you look closely at Zack's emotions at this moment, you can understand that it affected him in a sense. And it's very difficult to shoot my father, no matter what, because there is anyway/I still have some warm feelings for him.
Ha, and the cunt played his final scene too, well done... at least so))) Yes, there is a feeling that it is somehow crumpled... but well done...! Fet, krasava!
well, in general, the series is a C, there were great moments, there were the most terrible moments, in general, the norms, those who did not start watching it better and do not start
@dimaguru: in the book the basis for the destruction of the ancient was the place of his birth. I.e. to blow up the place where the ancient was born. So the owner dealt with 6 ancient ones, first building and then blowing up stations in those places. He hid his place, somehow Chernobyl was even tied to it, saying that he was born there, and his ancient one was demolished, I think that the owner is finished. However, he was hiding and preparing to take over the world. At the end, thanks to Lumen, the heroes found the island where the Owner was born, but Goodweather blew up the bomb there, dragging both the island, the owner, and Zack with him
The most important point is that the owner was the fallen angel Azrael, who was punished by God for drinking human blood.(from the neck). God cut it into 7 pieces over the river and scattered it on the ground.
@egri4: you who have read the book, tell me something better — is Zach the same in the book as in the series? Or is it just for this film adaptation that they made him so finished?
It's too expected. Dare the Professor was a more epic series finale. it's not even a season here, but the series as a whole. In fact, it was possible not to look. A 100% predictable series%
@John_Raider: although they write "Do not wait for new episodes and the release date of the Strain of season 5. The series is officially closed and no sequel is planned." Goodbye, another good series!
It's a good ending, it even made me feel better to think that this is the end =D. Plus the final minutes are about who has survived what I started studying. It's a pity Gus didn't find his girlfriend.
It's over!thank god!It was both good and bad, and absolutely absurd, but nevertheless it was. I expected something in the style of a "blowout" from the last episode, but the last scenes came out with a spark. And Zach has a clear talent for detonating bombs and betraying the trust of his "neighbor" at the most crucial moment.It took only one episode for the little asshole to realize that he was wrong and that the most precious and valuable thing he had ever had.The rest of the time, he justly betrayed his kind, his family and friends. Of all this, I feel sorry for my father-Goodweather took a place in the front row of events. Quinlan is expected. The owner is a master of multi-passageways and spare waste paths.In the last episode, I lost my intelligence and sound judgment, and decided-and burn it all with a blue flame.I will act head-on! We ended up with a happy ending, which we had to prove.
Is it me, or did it say in the first seasons that there were 7 first vampires? One of them is a Master, three were killed in a bomb explosion, one was imprisoned in Ancient Egypt, it turns out that two more are presumably alive.
@bazatron: Everything was a little different in the books. There are 7 patriarchs, yes. 3 in the new world, 3 in the old + Vladyka. The difference between the series and the book version is that it was possible to kill the ancients only by destroying their place of birth with the energy of an atomic (nuclear) explosion, and not by physically destroying their bodies. Therefore, in the book, Palmer built nuclear power plants all over the world, which burst into flames at one o'clock, simultaneously covering everything with a nuclear winter. So, we see the trio in a new light in the series, everything is clear with them. In the old world, we know for sure about one in Egypt + the books say about two more in Bulgaria and China. The Bulgarian was definitely killed by the lord, the book describes the explosion near Sofia. They also talk about China as a matter that has already been resolved. Thus, theoretically, only the Egyptian, who was imprisoned in a sarcophagus, can remain alive. But considering how far they have departed from the book canon, according to which the place of birth of the patriarchs is the key to their murder (as well as from the scheme "kill the patriarch - all his minions will die"), nothing can be guaranteed. The series generally explains very little about the patriarchs. Not a word about why there are 7 of them, nor about how they were born. And this is the damn most interesting thing! :)
Imagine how much cooler it would be if Zack killed his dad and the Master would win, but humanity would lose and in the end we would be shown endless concentration camps around the world! And this crumpled ending, in the style and they lived happily ever after, is complete crap.
Zach has detonated more bombs than anyone else. It was correctly said that his motivation is not conditioned by anything. He was a bastard to the end and, with a tear in his eye, remembering the best, blew everyone up. Of course, the season turned out to be strained, but from the realization that the end is coming soon, I want to watch the rest. The series - personally, I will remember it thanks to the cool pilot episode that kept me in suspense for 1 hour and 15 minutes.
And of course Vaska drags Fet - there's no question about it.
Well, another series that was interesting to watch has ended. Which did not bother with long seasons and passing episodes. I honestly hoped for season 5, because at first they wrote that there would be 5 of them, but apparently they decided to finish everything quickly. The impression of the finale is twofold. I expected it to be somehow more enchanting and bloody, but in principle I was satisfied with the ending, although Zack's emotions and actions and his sharp "Dad, I love you!" are not very clear, the master trained him to kill, turn off feelings, although she may be ready for her son's love for his father overcome all difficulties. I'm really sorry for sweet Quinlan. I didn't think that he would lose the battle to the Master so weakly. Until the last moment, I hoped that he would kick the Owner up to the tomatoes and at that time a bomb would explode, eh. It's a pity to part with such a series, of course, but there's nothing to be done. It will definitely stay in my home video library.
I close the debts from the comments on one of the previous series: the patriarchs (the ancients) were born from the blood of a torn fallen archangel who was seduced in Sodom and Gamora. For the fall, he was dismembered by winged gatherers, 7 pieces were scattered around the world, and uber worms were already in the pieces. Then you know.
In the end, shedding Setrokyan turned out to be absolutely meaningless. Before his death, he discovered how to defeat the Master (and this is not an atomic bomb), and in the end they killed him with a bomb. Nonsense.
@SvetikWolf: In one of the previous episodes, this moment was indirectly revealed when Fet showed his grandfather a jar of rat poison. In the books, Setrakian poisoned Vladyka with anticoagulant along with rat poison, which forced him to leave Sardu's body, and in the series this storyline was transferred to the Nazi. The chemical cocktail that Setrakian took weakened Eickhorst, slowed down the process of his conversion (apparently) and allowed the weakened Fritz to be beheaded.
@impulse2266: He suggested to them that it was necessary to eradicate the master's assistants so that he would become powerless. But why he hung Lumen on the walls has not been explained.
@sally_ride: It was probably a metaphor. If my eyes didn't change when Sardu threw up worms on Ephraim, there was one red worm among the white worms...
Another point that was conveyed in the book at times more epic and "goosebumps". This is the role of the Ancients (Patriarchs) and their influence. I don't remember exactly how the series showed it. Rather, he exposed the ancients for a couple of moments as some kind of helpless dolls, but according to history, these were the influential gods of the world. Roughly speaking, a secret society that had global influence. They initiated only faithful brothers into strigoi as the highest gift, as the highest blessing. And the victims who were drunk were simply killed. Indeed, remember Vaughn and the rest of the initiates, and how many resources and gold (even according to the series) they had and still have. The owner, however, came from the throat of a fallen angel, and was the most greedy of the brothers, so he began to insanely initiate into the "stupid bloodsuckers" left and right, and in his mind remained the minds of all the absorbed victims, their voices, so he hid from his brothers, because everyone had a common mindset, one voice
@egri4: I forgot to clarify that the 6 patriarchs did not want to take over the World with the Master, because they were simply disappointed, tired, and (perhaps) wanted to retire already. Only the Master was an insatiable gullet, hungry for world domination. And he decided to remove them, saying these old farts would only get in the way.
I will answer separately to those who whine that the series has slipped, fierce g ** *, etc . And you try to look at the series from the other side. Not as an action movie with the walking dead or default vampires, but as a real strain, a series about a dominant race, about a previously unknown species for which people are cattle. That the whole story was created by the patriarchs of this species, that plague epidemics are a cover for such world seizures, etc. To look at it as something that breaks all scientific views, models and arguments of human scientists. :) Yes, only the book will help to reveal the plot in all its glory, I agree.
It seems that the proverb "With whom you will fall in love, you will gain from that" will definitely explain the whole essence of the ending of this series. Because I don't understand any other explanations for such degradation of the Host. Talking to Zach obviously didn't do him any good. This potz is shooting at you and betraying you. Do you grab his dad's body and... climb in for a hug? Seriously? Next to the fucking bomb, which was approached by a kid (who, let me remind you, just shot at you and betrayed you). I understand, of course, that it was necessary to end the series somehow. But it could have been done so that the main villain did not become a dickhead with aikyu less than 30.
Well, what else surprised us was that New York, after the explosion of two nuclear bombs (even if one was blown up underground, but there will inevitably be infection from it), became probably the most radioactively dirty place on earth, but no, they show us how people live there quietly, run, love each other and even the rats return)
@torrerro: atomic bombs are more aimed at destroying, rather than infecting the territory with radiation, the same Hiroshima was already fully restored 10 years later.
@Slimov: Firstly, Hiroshima had the first nuclear bomb in history and with a fairly low power, even then the radioactive contamination was quite massive, and people died from radiation and side effects for decades more. Any bomb based on radioactive isotopes causes contamination of the surrounding area.
The series had a steep start, somewhere up to the middle, even a little further it was interesting, and the second half, in particular, the last season, was already hard to watch, because it was not interesting, but you need to finish watching. We stopped paying attention to the little things, but it all ended, far from on the best note, it's a pity that the sequel and the end came out mediocre.
I was only five years old, and I blew up two bombs! And what have you achieved?
But seriously, the series left a pleasant impression. Yes, there were a lot of absurdities, I often had thoughts in the spirit of "what's going on here?", but I'm still glad that we spent time together.
the ending is in the style of the stalker call of Pripyat - static pictures about survivors with a voiceover ... one story is more fucking amazing than another.
@bulekov99: in the skirmishes that were shown before, the owner was always stronger and just spared him, trying to win over to his side as far as I remember.
Zach was a bastard, and he will remain a bastard in his memory. But it is somehow fair that he was given the opportunity to somehow, even partially, put an end to this struggle. Well, okay, it was not the most magnificent, but also far from the worst series, which brought a lot of vivid impressions and pleased with its characters.
people were dumb, and they stayed - "oh, let's leave the three cute strigoi. and even though they almost enslaved our race, they have such cute proboscises, just like elephants."
@Alfonso: they are just dumb vegetables without a master, which they easily finished off after the bombs exploded. The patriarchs made vampires with intelligence (like their guards, vampire special forces), and the lord had them all with the intelligence of a sparrow without a single administrative center. Even if someone is infected, the same cormorant will appear.
It's good that I wasn't the only one who continued to watch this bottom in four seasons until the very end because of the coolest pilot. I feel emotional and psychological support right now.
no, well, they did make a completely strange turn, considering what an asshole Zach was during the series and suddenly (????) human feelings for his father awoke in him. in short, it's too unconvincing. smart guys, at least for stopping stretching all this burden for the following seasons
Xs, I think Zach did everything right. His behavior with the Master is quite expected: imagine that you are a child, and your father stabbed your mother, whom you considered completely normal, in front of your eyes. During the season, he had faint glimpses of guilt and conscience, they were visible, and the Master manipulated him again through the image of a mother and a chick that the guy liked. And the fact that he couldn't shoot his father in the end is also quite normal—you couldn't either, alo. I don't think Zach is a little bastard, and you can take as many minuses as you want They made a beautiful moment with an explosion, imho
By the way, even the characters of the series reacted positively to Eph's story about why Zach detonated the first bomb, and no one was eager to chop him into pieces
I liked the ending, it's good that all the lines are closed and the end is quite rosy) I was most worried about Quinlan, although it was clear that he would not survive.. and Dutch, even though she was a girl, she fought along with the men. It just kind of got weird with Zach-now he's a hero, it turns out. It's hard to believe.
It's very simple. Quinlan was stupidly leaked, that's really, 2000 and a half years preparing for this battle with his father, to be killed by three kicks to the chest. Are you fucking serious? Zach suddenly came to his senses that he had a dad, remembered, and what happened in the end? He turned out to be a hero. An expert at pressing buttons, damn it. This is the transfer of the Host to the Efa in the last minutes... What the hell was it supposed to do at all? Mixed feelings about the finale, thanks only for the fact that Dutch, Fet and Gus stayed alive in the new world. Nonsense.
Congratulations to everyone who watched it! The idea of the series, of course, is good, but everything is not very realized. It would be better to have fewer seasons and more logic. It is necessary to work for quality.
It's a pity that the wonderful series has such a bleak last season. There were not enough dynamics, bright scenes could be counted on the fingers of one hand, there was too much Zack, whom almost everyone hated, there was little development of favorite characters and the ending could be deeper… But this is in comparison with the magnificent past. Anyway, this is one of the original and catchy vampire movies.
To all the disadvantages voiced above, you can add a completely surreal ending. People for months (years?) they suffered and hid, were afraid and lived in anarchy. And a little bit they killed the Owner — everything is as it should be: walks with a clean dog, a bunch of jackets, a runner with a player, a man with a bag walking on the grass, all free, open, democratic... As if everyone had not just come out of the world, where they could put a bullet in an extra apple. And collaborators all over the world? Where are they? You can believe it at the beginning or middle of the first season, but at the end, in a city where there was genocide and a complete sweep…
In conclusion, I would like to thank Guillermo Del Toro, who lured the top of the first season, and then disappeared. Thanks a lot, old potbelly. Why didn't you take the series with you when you left?
Having sinned by reading the comments before season 4, I definitely expected the worst, but I liked this season even more than the previous one, each episode kept me in suspense, there were interesting moves, surprises, and a separate thank you for the flashbacks with Quinlan. Even the periodic stupidity of the characters tried to write off as naturalistic, well, who wouldn't be stupid in real life? The ending only hurt my ears, why they brought up this salvation with love, it is unclear. I haven't read it in the book, but in the series all 4 seasons they were definitely saved by luck and perseverance.
@Greenwatergun: but after all, there was salvation by love, Zach could have killed his father, but instead he shot at the Owner, and then he could not stand the fact that the Owner took Goodweather's body and pressed the button.
Yes, the series was very lame between seasons, sometimes I wanted to yell at the characters, saying, "well, what are you doing, you sick creature?!", but in general I can say that it was a pleasant series. A good one, with a kind ending, who made many of his characters fall in love, get attached and worry. In general, I did not regret watching the Strain, now I will read books to be with the characters once again.
The fourth season is simply sucked out of the finger. It's too long, there are a lot of unnecessary branches and a whole bunch of illogical actions. As a result, the final turned out to be very crumpled and incredibly weak. And it's very sad because the first three seasons were very interesting.
The final fight between two bald strigoi and a bald Jewish doctor was a success. It was like three Lenins fighting in a mausoleum, hehe. One is real and two are from the future.
Well, hacks - in some moments Quinlan has brown eyes and I'm silent about the snow-white Hollywood smile in previous episodes. It was a very sad season, it should have ended on the third, or better yet, the second season.
There were so many pathetic scenes in the series. What did the massacre of a Jew against a Nazi cost? And such a charismatic character as Quinlav (according to feedback in the comments to him, most viewers treated him warmly), was prepared to die from a shoe after a terrible fight. So it was necessary for the creators to hold down a couple of minutes of timing here in order to beautifully cut out such a character. Hurtful.
At least this little cunt did something. I pressed the button, a miracle happened! Quinlan is the best thing that happened to the series. You can add Gus to it. In general, I spent half of the series with my face on - especially with the actions of a petty moron. But, the series is not so bad.
OK, until the last moment I thought that the Owner would move to Zach, and poor Eph would still have to kill his own son. But in the end it turned out even cooler. Personally, I had goosebumps from the irony that Eph and the Owner = one and the ABSOLUTE father to Zach, in every sense. This is probably the first time Zach has acted logically and correctly, although this does not negate all the shit that he has done. When Dutch asked Eph to dissuade Fet from a suicide mission, it was obvious that Eph would take his place. Quinlan is very, very sorry, a pitiful death for a great warrior.
Overall, I don't regret watching the series. For me, it was an unusual and interesting story with ambiguous characters (except Feta, Vasily lapochka and sunny)
The season is the most successful of all, they finally showed some kind of tin and that children can be those freaks (even if they tried to whitewash him in the end). But of course, everything is crumpled up, it would be cooler if the season consisted of 25 episodes and was dedicated to this global starlet and how people fought against slavery. And so... we did everything in a dozen episodes.
How well the series began - I watched half of the first season just in one go, but from season to season the plot became dumber and more illogical, and the characters caused outright bewilderment. Sorry.
In the last episode of the show, everything was merged that was possible - the main and secondary characters, antagonists. Moreover, they merged so clumsily and hastily, as if someone shouted - a shoo-in, and all of them immediately op and live in a glorious new world, returned to their usual business as if nothing had happened.
The series reminded me of the movie Sanatorium (2013): It's also a comic book adaptation, in fact a cheap production, but it's nice to watch. The atmosphere here is so-so to be honest. Season 1 is good; season 2 is political, not what I expected; season 3 is weak; season 4 is normal, but this is some kind of walking dead. The main characters are rarely killed (except for season 1), but it's cool. The result: the total is somewhere 7-8 pulls... 8/10 everything is exactly here (4/5)
It's a great series, I watched the last 2 seasons with a binge. I knew Zach would save the world in the end. The ending is too vanilla, I expected someone to find a red worm in the water, but the happy ending is also not bad. It's a pity that season 5 was canceled and we didn't learn the biblical story of the strigoi origin. I am glad that it was these heroes who survived, Vasily, Dutch and Gus. Grandfather was very old, Goodweather was unhappy, and the cunt was so diligently made a villain that we don't really feel sorry for him 🙂
Everyone writes that Zach realized, repented, but for some reason it seems to me that he deliberately snuggled up to his father so that he could press the button closer. He understood that Eph was no longer his father, he saw how the owner vomited worms at him 🤯🤣
The first 2-2.5 seasons were great. Farther... I can't say what exactly weakened my interest, but I know for sure that I've never liked this topic of fathers and (young) children in fantasy dramas, neither in the walking dead nor here. I didn't expect anything grandiose from the finale. I didn't get anything like that.
I just didn't understand why they needed the book. They spent half the series trying to find her, half searching for answers, and all they learned was that they would have to sacrifice themselves. In the end, they just detonated a bomb.
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168Immediately, at least the acting is better.
Well, hallelujah, that it's over - not to say that the series is completely bad, but it was a little far from good for him.
I don't want to fuck the ending, Zach's abrupt change is due to NOTHING, DAMN IT.
Fucked up and shit.
Yes, there is a feeling that it is somehow crumpled... but well done...!
Fet, krasava!
But it's better not to go further.
At the end, thanks to Lumen, the heroes found the island where the Owner was born, but Goodweather blew up the bomb there, dragging both the island, the owner, and Zack with him
In fact, it was possible not to look. A 100% predictable series%
I started studying. It's a pity Gus didn't find his girlfriend.
I expected something in the style of a "blowout" from the last episode, but the last scenes came out with a spark.
And Zach has a clear talent for detonating bombs and betraying the trust of his "neighbor" at the most crucial moment.It took only one episode for the little asshole to realize that he was wrong and that the most precious and valuable thing he had ever had.The rest of the time, he justly betrayed his kind, his family and friends.
Of all this, I feel sorry for my father-Goodweather took a place in the front row of events.
Quinlan is expected.
The owner is a master of multi-passageways and spare waste paths.In the last episode, I lost my intelligence and sound judgment, and decided-and burn it all with a blue flame.I will act head-on!
We ended up with a happy ending, which we had to prove.
One of them is a Master, three were killed in a bomb explosion, one was imprisoned in Ancient Egypt, it turns out that two more are presumably alive.
So, we see the trio in a new light in the series, everything is clear with them. In the old world, we know for sure about one in Egypt + the books say about two more in Bulgaria and China. The Bulgarian was definitely killed by the lord, the book describes the explosion near Sofia. They also talk about China as a matter that has already been resolved. Thus, theoretically, only the Egyptian, who was imprisoned in a sarcophagus, can remain alive.
But considering how far they have departed from the book canon, according to which the place of birth of the patriarchs is the key to their murder (as well as from the scheme "kill the patriarch - all his minions will die"), nothing can be guaranteed. The series generally explains very little about the patriarchs. Not a word about why there are 7 of them, nor about how they were born. And this is the damn most interesting thing! :)
And this crumpled ending, in the style and they lived happily ever after, is complete crap.
And of course Vaska drags Fet - there's no question about it.
The impression of the finale is twofold. I expected it to be somehow more enchanting and bloody, but in principle I was satisfied with the ending, although Zack's emotions and actions and his sharp "Dad, I love you!" are not very clear, the master trained him to kill, turn off feelings, although she may be ready for her son's love for his father overcome all difficulties.
I'm really sorry for sweet Quinlan. I didn't think that he would lose the battle to the Master so weakly. Until the last moment, I hoped that he would kick the Owner up to the tomatoes and at that time a bomb would explode, eh.
It's a pity to part with such a series, of course, but there's nothing to be done. It will definitely stay in my home video library.
The series is finally over, well, fuck it.
If my eyes didn't change when Sardu threw up worms on Ephraim, there was one red worm among the white worms...
. And you try to look at the series from the other side. Not as an action movie with the walking dead or default vampires, but as a real strain, a series about a dominant race, about a previously unknown species for which people are cattle. That the whole story was created by the patriarchs of this species, that plague epidemics are a cover for such world seizures, etc. To look at it as something that breaks all scientific views, models and arguments of human scientists. :)
Yes, only the book will help to reveal the plot in all its glory, I agree.
But seriously, the series left a pleasant impression. Yes, there were a lot of absurdities, I often had thoughts in the spirit of "what's going on here?", but I'm still glad that we spent time together.
I think I'll read books now.
but Zack was nasty and remained)
It's a pity that this is the end (minus, I don't give a fuck)
one story is more fucking amazing than another.
Well, okay, it was not the most magnificent, but also far from the worst series, which brought a lot of vivid impressions and pleased with its characters.
The pilot series is fire, and that's why he began to watch...
They made a beautiful moment with an explosion, imho
I was most worried about Quinlan, although it was clear that he would not survive.. and Dutch, even though she was a girl, she fought along with the men.
It just kind of got weird with Zach-now he's a hero, it turns out. It's hard to believe.
Nonsense.
The idea of the series, of course, is good, but everything is not very realized. It would be better to have fewer seasons and more logic. It is necessary to work for quality.
Quinlan is the best thing that happened to the series. You can add Gus to it.
In general, I spent half of the series with my face on - especially with the actions of a petty moron. But, the series is not so bad.
When Dutch asked Eph to dissuade Fet from a suicide mission, it was obvious that Eph would take his place.
Quinlan is very, very sorry, a pitiful death for a great warrior.
Overall, I don't regret watching the series. For me, it was an unusual and interesting story with ambiguous characters (except Feta, Vasily lapochka and sunny)
But of course, everything is crumpled up, it would be cooler if the season consisted of 25 episodes and was dedicated to this global starlet and how people fought against slavery. And so... we did everything in a dozen episodes.
In the last episode of the show, everything was merged that was possible - the main and secondary characters, antagonists. Moreover, they merged so clumsily and hastily, as if someone shouted - a shoo-in, and all of them immediately op and live in a glorious new world, returned to their usual business as if nothing had happened.
And yes, thank you for this world without Zach))
Season 1 is good; season 2 is political, not what I expected; season 3 is weak; season 4 is normal, but this is some kind of walking dead. The main characters are rarely killed (except for season 1), but it's cool.
The result: the total is somewhere 7-8 pulls... 8/10 everything is exactly here (4/5)
I believe Gus will find his girlfriend :)