In my opinion, the most troublesome moment of the final episodes and the entire series is when the villain was fucked, Bob was smashed, Diana was pulled out of the lounge, Cooper happily greets old acquaintances, but all this time a gloomy motionless fuck of the same Cooper looms in the background, and finally spews out with a sepulchral voice just one phrase: WE LIVE IN In a DREAM; it became clear that nothing good will happen next, and all this turmoil with victories over the forces of evil is another illusion. Everything went to the pussy at the moment when the Evil Cooper still got to the real coordinates and got into the white lounge there. He got what he wanted, and cast himself a level higher along with the giant and Madame Dildo, and from that moment he doesn't give a fuck about the showdown in the black lounge, and everything that happens in the sheriff's office is just a game for him, an illusion, and he himself can already cast whole worlds-dreams. Like when he was a worker, he became a CEO, and now he doesn't give a fuck about driving piles. I wonder if there will be a sequel? Because how to finish with a detective without answers to questions (who has no questions left? like what the fuck did Red need? What was Becky, Gersten, Stephen for?Where did Desmond go? Who's Judy? What is the role of a Jumper and a grandson with a grandmother? Etc.) it was expected, but not cool.
@AlinaKipr: Lynch should not expect direct answers, especially to questions like "what the fuck was it necessary?". He is a man driven by his own ideas, which everyone can understand how they want. If everything had been clear and the puzzle had worked out, then it would not have been at all in the spirit of Lynch, so I am glad for this ending. I would not be surprised if there is no sequel, and secretly in my heart I want it to be so, because I am not sure if anything else can beat the masterpiece that this season was. To quote Miron, "historical bullshit."
And the moment "WE LIVE IN A DREAM" also seemed incredibly creepy and cool. It seems to me that this can even be taken as a metaphor for the fact that all these characters are just a figment of David Lynch's imagination in the end))
@QUTA: Laura lived in a so-called "dream". After a night with Diane, Cooper fell into her "dream", found a note with the names from the first episode. When they arrive at the house, the real owners seem to prove that Laura is not where she should be. When she realizes this, there are electric flashes and, in theory, Laura returns to the desired reality. I hope :) Although this "we" is confusing.
@QUTA: this gives us the opportunity to argue and assume. but by no means prove it. it is difficult to grasp all the little things and details from the first time. now you need to wait for time to let go and review it again.
@QUTA: if we all live in a dream, then sometimes I have such dreams in my dream, mom don't grieve. Rough. So this dream is better than what I'm dreaming.
@AlinaKipr: That's the point that Mr. Xi didn't become CEO) His Giant and the major were thrown back through the cage into the TP, so he was on the wreckage and trudged to the police station for a showdown. And after the fail with the shootout, Bob, who was pumping garonbosia, got out of it when he realized that this dopel had burned out and became useless for him and it was still unknown what would happen if it wasn't a Greenhand. Judy is a limbo, a place out of time, the underside of the world where Laura hung out in her nightmare and Cooper, in his heroic naivety, trudged like Orpheus to pull her out, and of course nothing good came of it. But he woke her up.
Cooper's Doppelganger was tricked into being thrown into the station by a Firefighter so that Fred would finish him off there (it was not for nothing that he gave him a super-strong glove). Evil has been defeated. The main question is, what happens next? The season-opening scene in the white wigwam with the Fireman and Cooper, as I understand it, takes place after Coop and Laura arrived at the Palmer house at the very end of the season. According to what the Fireman says to Cooper, "REMEMBER...Richard and Linda." That is, these events were before the dialogue of these two.
@jensenjar: Obviously Lynch was talking about "his dog's dream."..Sorry, I couldn't resist. ---
Seriously, the idea of building a large-scale mystical entourage shown in episode 8 (and partly a scene from episode 1 about the mother of evil Judy)...It looks very good. But this idiotic running around, which Lynch had to stretch 2 times because of the claims of showtime (the original script is only for 8-9 episodes of chronome for 40 minutes, but certainly not for an hour)...I've never had ice at all.
Coop's face looked extremely comical against the background in the penultimate episode...but not creepily. Damn, what's so creepy about it? "RYAYA, we are living in a dream! Wake up, you're crying!"... well, get angry.
I'll tell you separately...As much as I love the image of Laura Dern in Jurassic Park, I hate what she has become now...She became an absolutely miserable actress, a shadow of the past....A collective image of a squalid agenda. It is very sad that Lynch did not find someone more worthy and less impotent for the role of Diane.
"At least we will leave yob@noy Odessa" :)))) The scene with cowboys in the icandy cafe. I am glad that the backup Dougie/Cooper has been returned to the family. One thought, one thought torments me: has Cooper always had an affair with Diana? Is there an instruction manual for the whole season somewhere?
@vlandus: It's also interesting about Coomer's relationship with Diana, but I'm more interested in why Cooper didn't mention Annie Blackburn once, although he said in the second season that after Windom Earl's wife, he fell in love for the first time.
@Fish40: because it was in the second season, and Lynch hardly touched the second season (in my opinion, he shot about 3 episodes for the whole season), and he fucked the storylines started by someone in his mouth
At the end, a shout of "Laura!" It sounds like Sarah's voice. It turns out that the line about "We all live in a dream" refers to Laura. This is her dream. In the end, she gets it all.
@Katinakoshka: Yeah, I remember there was a joke about Lost that it was all a dog's dream. And here all three seasons and the movie are just Laura's dream.
@Kernom: Yeah...Fucking Lynch finished such an epic series. And he could have built the whole universe, and not demolish the 4th wall for the final credits.
I understand that no one promised answers to the questions, but it's not fair to end the series with such an outspoken cliffhanger. If this is not the fattest hint of a sequel, then I do not even know ... there is a great reserve for the future. In addition to Cooper's storyline, it remains unclear where Diane went, what happened to Audrey. There are a lot of other little things, but they are no longer so important.
@Lone_Wolf_Crazy: maybe he has sketches of a scenario for future events. Frost may not disclose it yet. In general, I'm sure that the sequel will be filed in one form or another. Such an iconic franchise will not be left alone. We can only hope for the participation of at least Mark Frost, Kyle McLachlan, Sheryl Lee and decent directors, screenwriters, etc., which they will try to do at least normally.
@Irish_Ethan: I am 99% sure that they would not have done it, even if there had been a script. Lynch's thing is directing. You can compare the example of two Dunes, plus or minus the same thing happens there, but what a different setting, details, accents. What they can do is a remake, I'll never be surprised at that, it's probably very beautiful, but with all the main references, but empty and superficial.
@PlanePassenger: There are three dunes in general, if we recall the series of the early noughties) Well, the Villeneuve Dune is also good, the director has formed his own style and I respect him too.
And about Twin Peaks, mb, and so on. A remake will be released instead of the sequel. Perhaps that would be for the best, although I also wanted to know what Lynch's idea would be next. I don't think he didn't come up with it. Most likely, he was planning a sequel, but he is one of those people who keeps the very fact of the creative process a secret. Perhaps he shared it with the same Frost, discussed it. It would be great if the draft of the script is still there and one day we can get acquainted.
@e46owner: so everyone wants answers, but let's face it, remakes are never needed, but for some reason they do them, so this is the most likely scenario of all)))
Anyway, Coop changed the past and Laura stayed alive, but he was stuck in a parallel reality with a non-Laura. when ne-Laura hears "Loraaaa" at home, it's her mother calling from another reality in the morning, and since she's alive now and her corpse has never been lying on the shore, she wakes up from this dream in her bed in Twin Peaks and everything is tip-top! but the moment of awakening was not shown to us.
If the series is closed, they will regret it very much. In the finale, it was clearly shown that there would be a sequel. Lynch can't just let it go. In general, Sheryl Lee is beautiful! It's a pleasure to look at her.
The ending is sad and creepy (in a good way). And the understatement and ambiguity make the series truly wonderful. It's a fucking finale. There is no need to continue. The third season provided enough answers at the same time to understand this Lynchian world, and not enough to make everything seem transparent (=boring). I'd love to watch some new Lynch series.
YOU'VE BEEN LYNCHED Has anyone figured out what year Cooper was? In this reality or an alternative one? My God, how many questions are there in my head! I think this ending can be discussed endlessly.
I felt something like that after episode 8... What makes you want to scream, clench your fists and stomp your foot. A happy ending for Jenny-And that's an unheard-of generosity in general. The rest needs to be reviewed and rethought.
The last two episodes are a masterpiece of cinema!!It's a weird, creepy, sometimes even cute ending..there were a lot of emotions during these two hours (17,18 episodes)!!! Answers to questions should not have been expected, Lynch has such a style..but still, I was hoping for a continuation of Audrey's story, eh... is it really all Laura's dream, and after screaming at the end of the episode, she wakes up..?And I even like it if that's the case.After all, we've been told for a long time that it's all just a dream, the only question was whose dream it was, maybe now we know the answer. Anyway, see you in 25 years!!
I note that the question "What year is it now?" runs through the entire series. Somewhere they started talking, but after the words "Now two thousand..." the speaker was interrupted. It was written somewhere, but the last digits are closed. I've seen 2015 twice. But they say that the day-number correspondence is suitable only for 2016 (I did not check). It's probably important, but I don't think we'll be able to figure it out.
I had plans after finishing to review at least the cut scenes and season 3 to put most of the pieces of the puzzle in place. Somehow the desire disappeared. It feels like we're being offered a jigsaw puzzle from which half of the parts have been stolen and replaced with parts from another one. In principle, I've always been waiting for this and was ready, but episode 16, which clarifies a lot, gave me hope.
Laura's barely noticeable rejuvenated face (scenes in the forest) is at the level of her best screamer exercises and genre classics, Eyes without a face , Sarah's scene with a photo - what are these dancing Leland from the same photo and "Where's Annie?" taken together , I seriously doubted that the scenes between Cooper and Diane were the scenes between Cooper and Diane after Cooper was scared off, and not the scenes between Dopelkuper and Diane during the ahem rap meeting, but it somehow doesn't add up to an action cooler than in most blockbusters . The scene in Carrie's house strongly smells of Mullholland The drive in the conversation scene with Alice Tramond clearly has something more than just a drop of a couple of famous Twinpix surnames, and the last scene, on the way home, I don't need another one.
And it happens again. I believed that the series would end normally...and they finished as always. What was it at the end? Is this Laura? Is that Cooper? Is this Twin Peaks? Is this an alternate reality? What the fuck year is this? And most importantly, WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED TO AUDREY?? I would have forgiven them for all the questions if Audrey had been shown to us. But no, I'm blowing with a poppy, in the ass is such a finale:(
So Cooper returns to the past in order to prevent the death of Laura Palmer. He fails, she runs away. Or she does, and she's alive in an alternate reality, where Cooper and Diane eventually moved to bring her home. He brings her home, but there's no one named Sarah Palmer there, and they've never even heard of her. Cooper asks what year it is. Laura realizes something or remembers something and starts screaming terribly. End. Well, where does that fit?
I'm looking forward to the next season. I'm waiting for Audrey.
Where is Annie? . Well, hello, the wonderful town of Twin Peaks. Those eighteen hours were wonderful. Completely different. And the ending, for all its incomprehensibility, is also wonderful. And this is exactly the ending that was needed. No end in sight. There is simply no end. The story is endless and it can move in any direction. The ending, which does not answer important questions, forces you to ask new ones, and which makes you suffer in trying to solve the riddle of David Lynch. Although he doesn't know the general answer himself. No one knows. Every guess, every version will be correct simply because you think so. Because that's what you think. Lynch probably has all the answers. But these are his answers. And you need to get your own. There shouldn't be a single correct answer. There will be no right thought. There will be no correct theory. There will be no right answer. The whole solution lies in us. How we feel, how we believe, is the way it is. Well, then. Goodbye, beautiful Twin Peaks. We will miss you and expect nothing. What happened to the series is the best thing that could have happened. And it will never happen again. It's unbelievable. Twin Peaks is useless to predict. It needs to be lived through. And then this story will become our story, your story, and all the answers will come by themselves. Thanks! Bravo, Lynch! . What year is it now? Is this the future or the past? Is this a dream or a reality?
If already in 1990, Mrs. Trimond, the one with the granddaughter, was already quite old, and she was also known as Mrs. Chalfont (if you believe the TWIN PEAKS WIKI, then the people who lived in this house before her had the same last name), then the year there is really very early 50s or earlier. It turns out that Laura lived under the name Karen for 25 years, almost before her own parents were born.
And another interesting fact is that Alice Tremond, who was at Laura's house, is a real resident of the Palmer house. That's what Twin Peaks is like :)
Well. Everything points to the fact that this is a dream. What year is not clear, there is no concrete reality. "We live in a dream", "but who is the sleeper"? Laura hears a muffled calling voice and a resonance occurs. So did Cooper take her home, or was the nightmare not over?
@andrew_khlybov: My version (maybe far-fetched, but still):
Cooper went back in time and saved Laura. Then they showed us the "anti" 1x1 episode where the corpse disappeared and Pete went fishing. In episode 18, Laura had a dream in which she wasn't Laura (in the Lodge, Cooper asked her many times, "Are you Laura Palmer?" and she replied, "I feel like she's me, but... I don't remember any more, but you get the gist) And in her dream, Cooper comes to her and takes her to Twin Peaks. There's another family living in the family home, and the Palmers have never lived there.
And now the main, key point: (remember how Twin Peaks began. Sarah Palmer was walking through the house and shouting "Loraaaaaa" to wake her up, but she wasn't at home, she was already in cellophane on the beach) and in a dream, after asking "What year is it now?" from the house where they said they didn't know any Palmers, Sarah's same cry "Looooaaaa!" was heard. and Laura realized that she screamed in her sleep and woke up already in 1x1, only alive. That is, Sarah has already gone into her room, and Laura is sleeping, not lying on the shore. The bottom line is that Cooper changed the show. Everything in him has become so that Laura is alive. And Cooper turns out he wouldn't have come to Twin Peaks anymore, and everything is fine with him, since they killed Bob in episode 17.
I'm sorry for the downidz content, I'm writing on emotion))
@andrew_khlybov: in the movie "Fire follow me" she dreamed about him. In the dream, he was in the Wigwam with Annie and asked Laura to write in her diary that there are now two Coopers, be careful. And these pages then disappeared (torn out) and were found only in season 3. Their Hawk in the toilet door clicked)
@vRAZORe: I have a big question. If Laura needs to be rescued, then there's still BOB in Leland. With Laura alive, BOB remains and all the problems go with him. If BOB did die in the past in a future murder, why save Laura from whom?
@vRAZORe: but I had already forgotten the movie, which for a moment gave rise to a more insane theory that she was not talking about a dream from the movie.
@vRAZORe: It's a good theory. But Laura still disappeared in episode 17 with a scream (Cooper didn't take her out of the woods). Besides, it was even more like Cooper's dream than Laura's-he was doing everything as he was supposed to, and Laura didn't seem to be herself and didn't understand anything of what was happening. He goes with Dayana, then they cross reality by car and something went wrong - Dayana sees her copy, loses her memory (or acquires a new identity?), Cooper is confused, but continues to search for Laura, he is not confused by the corpse in the house (by the way, who was that?) and as a result, he doesn't understand what's going on in the Palmers' house...
@vRAZORe: By the way, this explains Cooper's non-standard behavior... But, damn, there is a feeling that something is missing. That we are missing quite a lot of details. In other things, this is happening now with all theories - everyone is too superficial and takes into account only some scenes from the finale.
@tarkus1981: Let's just say that reality is a plane of event possibilities crossed by a plane of time. In order to build an altered segment of reality (for two planes, the intersection is a line), two points are needed - where Bob does not exist, and the second, where Laura is saved, which becomes possible after Bob's death. At the same time, this is impossible in a natural way - for the current reality, the passage of time back is not possible. P.S. Any attempt to rationalize Lynch cannot be logical :)
@Arkane: Cooper's non-standard behavior is like the behavior of a double Cooper (Bob) in our reality. That is, it is quite possible that we are being made to understand that Cooper is not able to fully perceive it in the second reality, as a "native" perceives it
@ckpinka: that's a very good comment. And it seems to be your copyright (I have not seen such a submission)? Even without considering my agreement with the postscript, it sounds quite logical.
It seems to me that there is a hint of a solution somewhere in the fact that Dayana is not who she seems... it feels like Coop never came out of the Wigwam for the second time. Either he's sitting in this chair from the beginning and the whole 3rd season is his illusion (I hope not).
Even after episode 17, I suspected, "It's Lynch! What the hell is a happy ending?! It can't be because it can't be!" It's nice to be right) But it's a pity that Lynch turned out to be right and "ruined" everything!))
I got high, watched the first episode of the first season, the last of the second, then refreshed my memory with the prequel and, it seems, finally appreciated the full genius of Lynch. this is an initially invented story, from the beginning to the end, and cunningly told from the middle, from its most interesting side - murder. How masterfully Lynch took the onlooker's attention and held it to his advantage until the last.
Is the Lucy and Andy line (and their characters) a parody of the TV series of that time (since the airing of the first season)? however, I'm sure that not only they, but also a good part of the humorous and melodramatic lines in the series.
today's finale (with Laura's scream) wrapped up the events, and the scream that Laura calls out to is her mother's call, which no one else will respond to - only Laura with her sobbing cry in the parallel universe (where it dawned on her that they were moving from one life to another, and to another, and into another one, until an infinite number of these approaches are repeated). perhaps the nerdy characters, winding the circles of all these parallel realities, begin to gravitate towards merging realities, which is why so much in each of them is from others. There are a lot of people in Twin Peaks who know about other worlds, and even about ways to get there (offhand: a lady with a log, an Indian sheriff, Major Briggs...); in wigwams, they remember and realize the former universes so much that they even refuse to believe that their reality is now a wigwam (hence the attempt to interact with new neighbors in the wigwam - however, with old/ familiar faces - according to the old schemes and subordinates, for example, the Lilands and Loras turn out to be anyone but them).
and Cooper keeps trying to change the past or the future, whereas movement is possible only in parallel universes, and not "along" the same one. In one layer of the universe, the "HAND" looks like a very ordinary tree in the middle of the forest (the second season, the last episode, the scene of Cooper's transition to the wigwam), in the second universe, this hand looks like a dwarf, and in another - an animated tree with a head of flesh.
@akazabalzaka: Ahaha, thank you, I have a whole folder full of such notes in notebooks about the meaning of life. :D sometimes I reread it and get overwhelmed. You made my evening, like a soulmate.
The last three episodes just pulled the whole season divinely. Not only because they are very atmospheric in themselves and with good artistic techniques, but also because they explain the events of the previous episodes and link some of the lines of the series together. In short, it is the last episodes that make the third season (and indeed the entire series) complete — without them, the experience would be completely different. The ending is really scary, creepy, and intriguing. There are a lot of questions left and a lot have appeared, but that's the whole point, I take it?
@eugene_onegin: Like what? Why did Diane correspond with the evil Cooper and in general the story of their last meeting. We found out what kind of place the evil Cooper was looking for. The purpose of the "Iron Fist" has been confirmed. We found out what kind of girl has no eyes. There was a direct hint that Audrey was "not in the same place" as the rest of the characters. There was some connection with the feature film. The line of Norma, Ed and Nadine was closed. The line with the killers was closed. We also found out who made Cooper's clones and how. The last episode with Laura can be considered both an answer and a question. But the bottom line is that it makes you look at the episodes you've already watched in a different way.
I have an idea that a DREAM has, in addition to its usual use, a meaning - as a kind of reality, and there may be many such realities, or on the contrary, it is one and very plastic. And there are sleepers - these are probably the key characters of the dream. And there is some other construct - where there is a giant and others and maybe a wigwam. And this is no longer a dream. Therefore, the words "I saw you in a dream" may come from Laura's understanding that she is over the whole dream, and since everyone there is half aware of it, she cannot formulate it unambiguously.
If this is a dream, then I don't understand why we need another movie where everything is explained by a dream, if there is already a Mulholland Drive?
rightfully. but, in my opinion, these films are still different. I just don't want to interpret all the works after MD: "it's all a dream, it's all a dream." It's the easiest way.
@chesterdesm0nd: Yes, I'm burned too. Moreover, there is a difference: a one-time film is one thing, a season of a TV series released 25 years later is another matter. The Audrey episode is more than enough to close the subject.
@chesterdesm0nd: to say that "everything is explained by sleep" is about the same as saying the same thing about Inseptionism. This is not a twist, this is a proprietary presentation of the material and it is not the dream itself that matters, but what emotions, experiences and dreams are invested by the characters unwinding their consciousness in front of the viewer in these dreams and trying to cope with reality (well, that is, being representatives of Lynch). But its specificity is that sooner or later the limit of fantasy maneuvers comes and the monster around the corner will wait for you sooner or later anyway.
At the end of episode 17, there was already a feeling that the pleasantness would certainly be spoiled, as in the second season. And so it turned out (IMHO). Cooper is very strange when he returns, but it would also be strange to wait for the good old days after 25 years. The graphics didn't deliver very well, either Lynch's taste wasn't very good, or he still didn't have enough money for graphonium. I think they won't give me money for the new season, or they'll give me even less, which is worse (the ratings are low). Regarding the final ending, I think the whole season is one big strange version of distorted time and events due to Bob getting into the white lodge (probably already voiced above).
@katrindakatrin: He had enough money for good graphics. But it was deliberately made bad. Lynch really, REALLY loves the aesthetics of vintage special effects, where just a flat image is superimposed on the picture, which creates a more creepy atmosphere than if it were a three-dimensional object. Therefore, for example, Briggs' head is just a flat picture to enhance the perception of rejection. You look at it and it gets unpleasant, because your brain feels that something is wrong, but it cannot understand what exactly.
@SolidSpectr: I don't know who really can't figure out what exactly is wrong with pulling a photo/video clip of a face onto a ball or a tree making disgusting noises, but thank you for the comment)
@katrindakatrin: the ratings are more than high)) In addition to money, there is such a thing as prestige, and Twin Peaks has given its channel a full armful. HBO will be happy to give you money for a new TP, but I hope Lynch won't stir it up anymore)
The ending does not imply a continuation. No matter how hard Cooper tries, no matter what unique skills of walking through worlds and different times he has acquired, there are FORCES THAT ARE STRONGER, and there is a "story about a little girl who lives in a house down the street." There will always be a girl, Laura, who cannot be saved, no matter how hard you try. The finale gave me goosebumps. And the fact that not everything has been explained and there are many questions left - is it really necessary that everything be chewed up? You have to think a lot, straining not only your brain, but also your soul at the same time.
@ekattar: It seems to me that your statement is just a slogan for the series.: "There will always be a girl, Laura, who cannot be saved no matter how hard you try." I spit furiously.
In my opinion, the ending is quite difficult to understand, since there is little that can be expressed in detail in the first minutes, but I would like to speak out. First of all, I should mention that I am not as optimistic as a vRAZORe user. It seems to me that Dale Cooper wanted to get out of the Wigwam, but he couldn't do it because he made a mistake: he turned around when he rescued Laura from the past, and her hand disappeared in his hand (some viewers find in this a reference to ancient Greek history, when a character, wanting to rescue a partner from the kingdom of Hades, turned around and so I couldn't help him get out of there in this way; in fact, that's why at the end of episode 17, a cry is heard, which is repeated twice more in episode 18), and since "the past dictates the future," then, accordingly, the past in which a mistake was made cannot contribute to the future to which Cooper wanted to bring her. This future is the very reality in which Dale discovered Carrie Page; the character's name is quite important: Carrie Page, that is, the "carried page" (translated from English), and, as we remember, Laura had a diary and some of its pages were torn out; perhaps Cooper took Carrie to Twin Peaks in order to bring what had once been "torn out" to its original state, that is, to bring the past (in which, as it were, her corpse does not exist) to the future in which Twin Peaks is so perfect (the city is really different, and the inhabitants of the house are different;), however, Carrie began to remember herself Laura, when Sarah called out to her, who is, in fact, the embodiment of evil (as far as I can tell, a strange Mother-type creature settled in her, giving birth to Bob), she felt dark forces turning to her, and began to awaken, remembering that very year ("what year is it now?"), when she was supposed to be dead, and realizing that Cooper had made a mistake, she screams because she realizes that waking up might be the end of her. That's my opinion.
I would also like to add that in the reality that Cooper has moved into with Diana, for the most part, evil is not present (note how indifferent Cooper is during the encounter with the cowboys and how coolly he looks at the corpse in Carrie's apartment), but this became possible only after the ritual moment was performed."connections" (copulation) with Diana, during which, as I understand it, in one reality Cooper rapes her (during this scene he sometimes resembles him, and the music does not change for nothing during sex; sex is performed purely mechanically), and in the other he makes love (especially it is necessary to focus on the fact that after Naido turned into Diana, he sensually kisses her, and sex is built on contrast - the feelings are almost opposite), and Diana at this moment is experiencing a different range of emotions: from passion to pain. I read on Reddit that "Judy" means "to explain" in Chinese, and since Lynch believes that "explanation is a negative force" (it is unlikely that the director will explain the plot), then, accordingly, each of the theories can shed light on the true state of affairs and be true in its own way.
@VAleksandrov: 交代, that is "jiāo dài", is Chinese meaning 'to explain'. The ultimate negative force is explanation. Lynch's life philosophy. Джуди которую все ищут, и о которой запрещать говорить Жефрис на китайском означает "Обьяснять" "находить смысл" "растолковывать". Джу даи - это высшее зло по Линчу.
@AlinaKipr: Yes, you're right, that's exactly the quote. The finale of the new season is unlikely to be explained correctly to the viewer, however, as well as other films by the director, about which he gave only hints, if not openly joking (I can't say for sure whether reading a certain verse from the Bible could have led Lynch to the idea of removing the "Eraser Head"; in any case in this case, the autobiographical moment is excluded, since he stated that the painting is definitely not such).
Despite the fact that "explanation is a negative force," what do you think Laura might have said in Dale's ear in the Wigwam (after all, this is the scene featured in the credits)? If she only told me where to look for her, then that's not enough, it seems to me, especially since Dale was communicating with a Firefighter who could convey something not only verbally, but also through signs (as in the case of the Lady with the Log, whose widow she may be); I think she could give a parting word for the opportunity to get out of a kind of "imprisonment", however, with the caveat that he might miss something again. In my understanding, that's what happened: he really missed something; however, what exactly is anyone's guess.
@VAleksandrov: Yes, I also think that the explosion gave rise to Judith, who regurgitated Bob, and Laura was sent to overcome her in some way. Judith made her way into Sarah and stayed there, as we see in the scene when she killed the man in the bar. When Laura didn't die, we were shown Sarah howling and smashing her photo, at which point Cooper loses Laura as he leads her through the woods.
The last thing I would like to add is that, in my opinion, there are three layers here: the temporal layer - the future and the past of Twin Peaks, the spatial layer - the two realities of Dale Cooper and the layer of the state - the dream and the reality of Laura Palmer. Thus, the emphasis is on the meanings of "city" (TP), the "symbol" of the city and its "hope", as well as the favorite of many and, as can be seen from the prequel film, like an "angel" in the flesh (Laura) and a "wanderer", lost among the worlds and trying to find a way out of The lodge (Dale). In my opinion, Dale could, like Philip Jeffries, disappear and never find a way out, and when he tried to find one (the story with Carrie), "history repeated itself over and over again."
From the references to Lynch's other works, I can mention: a time loop ("Highway to Nowhere") with a certain "stop", as Jeffries showed in episode 18; the distinction between dream and reality ("Mulholland Drive"), several plot layers ("Inner Empire"; in TP it is more difficult, since there is more abundance of meanings than the inner "container", as I understood, of a certain character), from there, the characters have new names, although this was also the case in MD; the element of fabulousness (Freddy's victory, Candy in a pink robe), in my opinion, is inherent in the "Wild Heart" in a sense; the criminal background, the strangeness of the world - at least from the "Blue Velvet"; from the "Eraser Head"-- wigwam floor + industrial theme, the second is observed in the monastery of a Firefighter; in addition, from the CHAPTER one can note a scene from outer space: the hero of Jack Nance releases something like a smoky cloud in the form of a sperm from his mouth - it reminded how the "Mother" emits BOB. There may be some other references, these are the main ones that can be noticed.
Two more moments come to mind: 1) the song sung by Julie Cruz in episode 17 was played in that episode of season 2, if I remember correctly, when Leland killed Laura's relative, who looked exactly like her, Maddie; 2) to have sex with Diana Cooper, he goes to room 7, and not in the 8th (correct me if I'm wrong; apparently, the "eight" could have led to a worse result; besides, Diana sees herself near the "8th" room, which suggests that this is not the first time Cooper has tried to get out), but when he (already as "Richard") He leaves the room, and a considerable amount of time passes.
If we talk about why the electricity turned off at the end, then I can explain this by saying that it is related to Laura's "awakening", since electricity is somehow tied to dreams (it was not for nothing that at the time of Dougie's transition to Dale, Gordon heard a certain "pulse" emitted by the equipment).
From less significant details: 1) one of the spectators noticed that Audrey's in the 2nd season, say something like "doesn't he know that I'm out of a dream?"; the phrase, which then might seem naive (love the hue statement), after this season shimmers in other colors, 2) I also read that Audrey, while in a coma, almost word for word the speech of the Hands of "little girl", 3) this part, I think, noticed everything: Big ed in the reflection, watching the way he holds coffee in hand while coffee is already on the table; so his reunion with the Norm may be nothing more than a fantasy too easy for Norma refused the man whom she previously chose after started to speak with ed (the man offered her to change the name of the institution to "2P Rules"), and in the moment of the kiss ed and Rules of the experiment are not typical atmospheric phenomenon; 4) references you can still remember that men ("Gotta light?") reminds grimy homeless from "Mulholland Drive", which was played by an actor is transgender; 5) the homeless man in the MD saw the character had a heart attack just looking at it; interestingly, the actor who played this character, seems to have migrated into the new season (he shoots head hero Tim Roth, who, by the way, in my opinion, died quite in the spirit of Tarantino; roll between Lynch and Tarantino is not, but Tim Roth played the latter in some movies).
@VAleksandrov: It seems to me that the Ed/Norma/man scenes are 2 simultaneous scenes from parallel realities. In the second "happy" scene, the frame was focused at least three times on the mountains, where there is NO sinister fog descending.
I'll correct the 5th point: it's not Tim Roth's character who shoots this hero in the head, but his companion, who, like her partner, was assigned by the evil Cooper to eliminate several targets; these two characters are actually in a bundle, so unfortunately I got them mixed up.
@VAleksandrov: There's a scene in the Inner Empire where Grace Zabriskie tells a story about a girl who lived at the end of the street. Lynch's narrative about the river between the dream-reality worlds is a red thread in almost all films, but rather the worlds are not cyclical, but in a spiral state, and it is possible that the heroes of TP will eventually break out into a spiral where there will be some kind of happy ending)
@VAleksandrov: By the way, I don't know if this is important, but I think it was said in the third season that several pages from Laura's diary were missing, but not all of them were found in the bathroom door. One page remained missing. So it's a very strange assumption - maybe Carrie Page is not Laura at all, but a missing page from a diary? Kind of like a piece of Laura too. But this is completely far-fetched on my part))
If there was a denouement of the entire series somewhere (but I haven't seen it yet), but in season 3 there was a new question, what is this glass cube in episode 1, where Cooper was, as well as unknown crap? And is someone recording all this? They didn't tell us where either.
@CottonMartlet: The evil Coop was looking for Judy - in one of the first episodes, he shows an ace card with an image of an ant's head on it and says he's looking for it.
I realized that I needed to continue practicing transcendental meditation, which Lynch practices, and even organized a foundation in my name to understand what was what...
Theory: judging by the sign that shows the number of residents of Odessa 99,940 (when coop leaves the motel) and the number of residents for 2014, according to data from the Internet (wiki) - 110,720. events may occur in the past, well, or the sign is old
@madasket: Эти знаки обновляют раз в десять лет, потому там и данные за 2010 год. https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/5zduzq/how_often_are_population_signs_for_cities_updated/
Lynch fans will forgive me, but when the end credits rolled, all I could say was, "Lynch, fuck you." I'm glad for those who understood everything. Or Lynch as quantum mechanics -- ""If you think you understand quantum mechanics, you don't understand quantum mechanics"".
Translated this article: http://www.indiewire.com/2017/09/twin-peaks-ending-explained-answers-part-18-finale-david-lynch-1201872863/
The final hour of "Twin Peaks: The Return" ended David Lynch's baffling series by brilliantly bringing back the show's most important figure: Laura Palmer. Dale Cooper returned to the past to stop Laura's murder, but his attempt was thwarted by Judy, an "extremely negative force" that pulled Laura out of a familiar timeline and moved her somewhere else. Cooper prevented Laura's death, her body from the pilot issue disappeared from the beach, but he did not save her. In fact, he only prevented her death in one of the timelines.
Wherever Judy sent Laura, this is exactly what David Lynch decided to devote the last half hour of the entire series to, and it was at this point that most viewers finally stopped scratching their hands. It's impossible to know for sure what kind of place it was, but it's possible that it was some kind of alternate reality created by Judy to end Laura. Cooper could have saved her in one timeline, but that doesn't mean Judy is done with her after that.
In one of the early episodes of "The Return," Fireman told Cooper in the red room something that claims to be the biggest clue that helps him make sense of the ending: "Remember 450. Richard and Linda. Two birds, one stone." After 18 hours of the series, this phrase finally bore fruit.
Attentive viewers might have noticed that 430 is the number of miles that Cooper and Diana traveled before moving to another dimension created by Judy. Richard and Linda were the new names of Cooper and Diana, respectively. When Cooper reads the letter, Diana has left him, signing the note as "Linda" and addressing it to "Richard." After all, Gordon Cole said at the beginning of part 17 that "two birds, one stone" were the last things Cooper said to him before his disappearance.
According to Gordon Cole, "The last thing Cooper said to me was, 'If I disappear, like [Major Briggs and Philip Jeff] do everything you can to find me.
So, what does it all mean? We may never know for sure, but Fireman must know that Juna was powerful enough to create a different timeline, so Laura couldn't have been saved so easily. Fireman gave Cooper a backup plan in case his first attempt failed. By entering an alternate universe (one stone), Cooper had a chance to save Laura and defeat Judy (with something that is impossible in the traditional timeline). Of course, the last episode proves that Cooper did not succeed in this.
The alternate timeline is filled with terrifying pascals, foreshadowing at the end that nothing good is in store. Something was obvious (Cooper/Richard having lunch, interrupted by someone named Judy), while others require more in-depth knowledge of Twin Peaks. Cooper found Laura Palmer in a new dimension, but she knew herself as Carrie Page from Odessa, Texas. There was a statuette of a white horse in her house, which Sarah Palmer saw the night before Laura and Maddy were killed.
Another one happened when Cooper and Laura finally got to Twin Peaks and knocked on the door that should be Laura's house. It wasn't Sarah Palmer who answered, but Elim Tremond, who told the couple that she had bought the house from Mrs. Chalfont. These names sound familiar, because they can be traced back to the Black Wigwam itself (Mrs. Chalfont was in the trailer park where Teresa Banks died and later, she appeared to Laura as Mrs. Tremond and gave her a painting that acted as a portal from her bedroom to the wigwam).
These Easter eggs suggest one thing: the timeline may be different, but the old battle between good and evil for Laura Palmer's soul continues. Wherever Judy took Laura, it was still the same place where the influence of the Black Lodge should be felt, and it was the same place where Cooper arrived on the orders of the Firemen to rescue her. This is a different timeline that has a single core at its core.
Before Philip Jeffries allowed Cooper to enter the past in part 17, his smoke took the form of an infinity sign. At the end of part 18, it becomes clear that Jeffries warned Cooper that reaching into the past is an endless cycle in which good fights evil through timelines and realities. Evil wins in the past when Judy removes Laura from this timeline. Evil wins out in an alternate dimension when Carrie Page awakens as a shocked Laura Palmer. But the good, nevertheless, continues to try. This is David Lynch's optimism.
Part 8 turned Twin Peaks into a massive, great war between evil (Judy is the monster who gave birth to Bob) and good (Fireman gives birth to Laura Palmer, the warrior who can overcome the evil created by the atomic bomb). Part 18 ends the series by saying that the struggle never ends. It's bound to repeat itself; but the way Dale Cooper exists, goodness can always fight back. Lynch's finale makes it absolutely clear; that's what Twin Peaks is about. And there is hope to see how Cooper copes with evil in the future.
@Bisher: Thank you for your interesting article and translation.
Again (the first time they were confused, but I don't care), I will note an important logical error. I believe Lynch intended it that way, but there's a huge gaffe in his idea.
If Cooper is trying to save Laura (take her out of the woods) from Leland/Bob, then L/B will continue his evil. So Cooper ruins the entire plan of the Firefighter and Senorita Dido, created in the 1950s. If BOB has already been destroyed by Freddy and cannot act in the past, because time is non—linear, Cooper has no one to save Laura from.
I also note that this article does not explain the essence inside Sarah Palmer at all, which imho is very important. But I fully admit that the article is very close to the truth, and the same Sarah is embedded for beautiful shots and atmosphere without a logical explanation.
@tarkus1981: I also want to mention something (I don't know, maybe this is also a "blunder"). According to Lynch's idea, Laura, in the scene with James, saw Cooper in the woods, so she screamed. The scene is taken from "Fire, come with me." That is, in the movie she screams too - she sees Cooper too - so Cooper came to save her - he doesn't save her, because in the movie BOB kills her.
I may be wrong, because I do not know how to interpret the scene in which Cooper leads Laura by the hand through the forest, after which she disappears somewhere. My main assumption is that Judy or Sarah, or someone else, intervenes in the process of changing the past, returning Laura to her former path, i.e. everything goes according to the film - Laura meets with Ronette/Leo/Jacques and a familiar event occurs. However, this interpretation already contradicts the series, as we are shown that the corpse has disappeared and Pete is quietly fishing. However, this can be seen as a temporary change in the past that Sarah/Judy/Xs who felt. That is, after this temporary change, IT intervenes and Laura follows her destined path.
But one more question arises - in the first episode, the Giant/The firefighter asked Cooper to memorize one sound. We hear this sound just when Laura disappears. So everything is going according to the Giant's plan? Or was it a warning to Cooper?
And one more thing - it is unclear when the scenes with Cooper in the Black Wigwam (with Laura, with Leland, etc.) take place. If they occur after Cooper's attempt to save Laura, then it turns out that Laura was dragged into the Black Wigwam? If Cooper saved Laura, then she shouldn't be in the Wigwam either, because she's alive and in the real world?
Ohh, that's it, the thought doesn't go any further. Yes, I probably wrote everything rather haphazardly and rather incomprehensibly, but maybe at least someone will come up with some new ideas or interpretations?
@Arkane: I don't remember the sound, but I understood the rest and agreed. I think that at best Lynch had some kind of half-formed idea. At the level of who is who and what they want. He shot it at the level of the "stream of consciousness", that is, it will not be possible to fit it into a clearly structured logic and causal relationship.
@tarkus1981: Just like I filmed Mulholland Drive. He wanted to make a TV series, shot the pilot, no one liked it and it was shelved. Then Lynch thought, "Wait a minute, well, this kind of stuff doesn't go to waste!" I wrote a sequel on my knee and as a result, a film appeared, most of which was a pilot release for a failed TV series, and then absolute hell, nothing is clear or understandable. I just screwed up everything I could, mixed it up with each other, and voila! Here's a movie for you, think about what's what.
@Bisher: MD just converges and deciphers almost completely. There are literally two unexplained points (the homeless and the lady in blue) that have different interpretations, but the general outline of MD is absolutely clear, converges everywhere and has no contradictory points.
@Arkane: A small addition to my comment - it turns out that the scenes with Leland are different, even though he says the same thing - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdbPqLnpbhk Laura, apparently, "flies away" to a parallel reality from the Black Lodge. And in this reality, Cooper is looking for her. The only question remains-how did she get into the Lodge? Was it because Cooper wanted to save her? Like, even though she wasn't killed, she disappears from the real world. Although, again, this goes against the movie, because she gets killed there...
I missed it here in the comments, but after the sex scene with Diana, the badge on Coop's lapel turned black instead of white. Apparently, the truth is a different reality
The most difficult series I've ever watched. A job like no other. Bravo and thank you, of course, but I definitely would not refuse additional material explaining everything I saw.… Here you need to release a separate application for the series in order to understand the last season. o_O
Who can explain to me the moment when Cooper addresses the guy in the green glove: "Are you Freddie?". How does Dale even know him? Did I miss something or is it from the episode "behind the scenes"?
@ilpassetto: a Firefighter handed the glove to the guy, he also instructed Cooper, they had 25 years to do it :) This is not shown in the series, only the part with Richard and Linda.
Don't forget about the infinity sign from episode 17: moving in one direction looks like moving back from the other side. And yet: in the final scene, when Coop talks to the hostess, Laura's animation is in reverse order, like in a wigwam. Watch her blink.
Regarding the theory that everything that is happening is a dream of Cooper and Laura. I'm not a fan of this theory, it's obviously much more complicated than that, but if you think about it, you can say that Cooper is in Season 3 "wakes up" several times. 1 - when he woke up in the hospital and stopped being Daggy, but became our familiar Agent Cooper. 2 - he wakes up in the morning at the hotel where Dayana has already left, goes out and sees that it's not the same hotel (I didn't immediately notice that in the evening they enter the one-story one, and in the morning he leaves the two-story one, and the rooms on the doors look different, correct me if I have glitches), then it's like another time, but in fact, it can also be called awakening No. 2, because we have another Cooper in front of us, in which the character traits of an evil Doppelganger and a sympathetic agent are integrated. He is also very sad, lost and tired, and surrounded by the most banal and realistic reality. Well, the third awakening is the finale, Laura's scream, the dream ends, they both woke up (if it was a "shared dream", there is such a theory), the film is over.
Our dreams - etl, too, we are real. What we dream about and what we think or dream about (both good and bad , for example , "I hate him!!!!") - this is also the real us. Evil thoughts = our one of the entities (in this case evil) and narborot :))
@n-elly: Today I dreamed that I was rescuing fat, hairy male accountants from some kind of pixel cave on an inflatable tank. And when we tried to get out of this place through some ravine, we were destroyed by a huge, flying thing that looked like a mutated fairy. What does this mean?
Wonderful! I'm ready to admit, even if I'm not an ardent fan of the first two seasons, the Twin Peaks universe is something amazing, and season 3 is the perfect conclusion to this story. We have received answers to many questions, but some details still remain shrouded in darkness, which is quite expected from any Lynch painting :) By the way, it is a great pity that David Bowie did not have time to participate in this project properly - he would have been here at the right time with:
I'm slowly maturing towards a review of the third season (at least). I realize that a lot of the early stuff is just thrown in and has nothing to do with the solution/ending. But at least what was filmed in the last episodes, maybe not by chance?
There is a version. I'm too lazy to check it separately. In episode 16, Cooper left a note, it seems to have been read already in the 17th. What time is 2:53, huh 2+5+3 =10, and 10 is the end number. Has anyone found this ten? 5 times they emphasized the frame on camera No. 10, where the Drunk is closed, but imho this is a false move. I have a theory that the last piece of the timeline should be in episode 10. At least Cooper's exit through path 15 instead of 3 and, consequently, awakening in episode 15 instead of 3 is hardly a coincidence. Apart from pointing to the episode, I have not yet been able to decipher 10 in any way.
@tarkus1981: If Lynch emphasizes that this is a complete film and not a set of parts, then it is unlikely that he himself was somehow tied to the numbering of the episodes.
@s3lk: so Cooper's awakening in episode 15 instead of the expected 3rd after going online on episode 15 instead of 3 is an accident? :) If anything, it was predicted long before episode 15.
That's how it was supposed to end in the second season. Lynch brought everything to the end he wanted. Don't look for meaning, it's not there. The point is not the meaning, but the rejection of it.
@NikitaSnegirev: The series wasn't supposed to end on season 2 (back in the 90s). Lynch talked about this in an interview. At least one more season was planned, or even more, but the channel suddenly closed the series, after which Lynch and Frost thought to reveal and continue the story in the form of feature films, but even there they were overtaken by a fiasco in the form of a failed prequel about Laura.
@Irish_Ethan: Yes, it's all a fairy tale about a white bull. Lynch had many other projects that needed time...He didn't pay much attention to the original series either. I think he specifically prescribed the disclosure of the killer in the middle of the second season, so that the series would be closed as soon as possible due to the imminent decline in ratings with the disclosure of the main plot. After seeing the success of Twin Peaks, it dawned on him that he could be bound by contracts for a very long time...logic.
@Фаталь: I'm based on what was said in interviews by Lynch himself and other people involved in the series. Are they lying, and was it really like that?.. How do we find out? The answer is: nothing. Here everyone can decide for themselves and figure it out.
@Irish_Ethan: You just need to engage in critical thinking. Who benefits more from ending the series, and who milks to the last...naturally, it is beneficial for the television network to milk, and for the director and set designer to merge with the project as quickly as possible.
It's just that it's not customary for people to scold creators...especially when they go to Showtime with a script for 9 episodes and say, "HEY, I GAVE YOU A SHIT ABOUT THE CONTINUATION OF THE LEGENDARY SERIES! PLEASE PAY!"
@Фаталь: maybe, but I don't think Lynch wanted to end the story exactly as shown in the season 2 finale. It's just that Lynch wasn't the only one working on the series. And not even paired with Frost. A lot of scriptwriters were involved. Plus, the channel's bosses were poking their noses. Therefore, by coincidence, there was such a finale.
As far as I remember, in the feature film, at the very end, they spent a little time on what happened with Cooper after. And if the film hadn't failed miserably and become a box office hit, it's possible that Lynch would have continued to make sequels in the form of films. And even more so, 26 years later, he would not have released a sequel in the form of season 3 if he had been satisfied with the season 2 finale.
Although season 3 ended with a semi-open finale, it still answered a lot of questions, while still leaving questions, but in my opinion, the overall outline of the story has become much more complete, the history of the world and the plot of Twin Peaks have become much clearer and more open.
@Irish_Ethan: The fact is that Lynch holds key rights to the Twin Peaks franchise...Frost can't even release a spin-off without him... the movie is just a prequel for a block of dough. Although it came out quite well, it didn't have any potential initially, because it was a fan service. The finale was in the 9th episode of the second season. The story is over. The rest is revenge on Bob (evil must be destroyed and Beaver must win) and the revelation of the mystical lore...well, for the sake of interest, they also gave birth to a story about the mother of "EVIL" - Judy...these are just sketches for the finished story so that the viewer doesn't yawn. This can be scripted at least every episode, increasing the layering of the story. The proof of the claim that Lynch wanted to shoot season 1 is just a calculation... he had 18 episodes in his plans... (and I'm not talking about season 3) he had 18 "episodes" in his plans for the entire series...
8 episodes of the first season +9 of the second +the prequel film (as an extended series - the missing piece of the puzzle) = 18.
@Фаталь: Maybe he only wanted 18 episodes, but I don't think he wanted a finale like the last episode of season 2. At least that's what he used to say.
Season 3 of Twin Peaks is a whole universe for me, which made me rethink David Lynch's old films with a new look, because when watching it, I could not leave the feeling that there was a Black Wigwam in each of his works and which logically puts the last dots on the i. This season (like the films) is completely unnecessary for rational interpretation, you can not understand anything, but feel it on an intuitive level and immerse yourself in this mystical world, because it seems that this is the original idea of the author (remember the scream of Laura Palmer in the last scene, because he really is a million) But, without taking long to wait, I decided, as usual, to find answers to questions about this work, but I knew that the main thing was to ask them correctly and specify the right vector. After reading the comments and a couple of articles on the Internet, I learned that many people talk about time loops and similar topics, and one cannot but agree that this is an integral part of understanding the plot. But few people mention one of the most interesting themes for cinema - it's dreams, which Lynch uses in almost every one of his films. I have long had the impression that his main philosophy is to explore the boundary between a dream and reality. Almost 10 years ago, my favorite website on the Internet was ***lynch.info where, after studying, you can find out that the iconic film "Highway to Nowhere" is the dream of a schizophrenic killer, and "Mulholland Drive" is the dream of akrtis Diana.
And I think that TP is no exception, and this topic is the most important vector for understanding it, because it is so clearly manifested in the last two episodes, starting after Bob's destruction in the form of a sphere - the whole series begins to resemble Agent Cooper's dream, which is trying to wake up in a dream ("Lucid dreaming" is a real-life practice I have a single experience myself, I know what I'm talking about. For example, people try to rub non-existent hands and begin to become aware of themselves in a dream and, possibly, control it. In TP, Cooper looks at the clock that is not working, his consciousness tries to say that "We all live in a dream," asks himself what year it is, or Carrie Page (Carrying the Page) is talking about her parents, which would, perhaps, awaken her). Freud wrote that part of dreams are daytime impressions (perceived images, pondered thoughts, experiences) - in the last series there appears a statue in the form of a white horse, which we have already seen in a black wigwam and somewhere else, or the same cafe with the name "Judy". That's all my conclusion, it's purely personal and subjective, and I'll be glad if someone listens or speaks out, for the first time in my life I decided to write a comment /review. It remains to add that surrealism is not only art, but also an integral part of our lives (dreams). That the nuclear mushroom is the obvious appearance of a black wigwam in the TP universe (remember how Lynch shows the holes/portals forming in the nuclear mushroom and how Bob's spirit/sphere begins to emerge). That Audrey is just somehow connected to the Black Wigwam (tulpa? A doppelganger? a dream?). And for me, the main questions still remain: Twin Peaks - whose dream or dreams is it, and where are their boundaries. I believe that Twin Peaks has completely exhausted itself and left no questions that could be continued in the new season. And in my opinion, Lynch's latest film, "Inner Empire," which I once saw in a movie theater in the year of its release, turned out to be much more complicated and crazier.
Today, when I was going to continue watching episode 16, I thought: "The third season is just an alternative development of events, which is not worth comparing with the first two seasons, you just need to watch it. Yes, I'll review the first two seasons, but not the third one." As a result, all three episodes looked at the same breath and really revealed a lot of necessary information. And I've changed my mind a bit. Maybe I'll review the season again. Especially after reading the comments and global discussions about references. Personally, I still have a question about the branch with Billy. Why, why, and how? Why didn't he meet Andy and behave very strangely? What's the point here? I also wonder what's the matter with Sarah. Had her Mother really "settled" in her? Maybe it's worth revisiting the moments in which she appears and makes remarks? * suddenly remembered how she watched a looped battle (isn't that a hint of the world around her?)*
@CottonMartlet: And also, if we move away from the topic of "dreams, repetitions and inevitability," when watching the final episode, I caught myself thinking that I felt sorry for poor Coop, because it all started so globally after he arrived in Twin Peaks. If I hadn't come, I probably wouldn't have become a part of all this "obscurantism."
@CottonMartlet: Billy seemed like he was going to meet Andy and tell him something, but he didn't show up. But maybe it wasn't there. It is very similar to the 10th clue to the MD "Where is Aunt Ruth?". We need to reconsider, but somehow there is no desire.
By the way, Andy was told a lot by the Fireman afterwards! And also at a certain time (although Billy seemed to be talking about 2:30 instead of 2:53). Maybe a Firefighter=Billy? And what was the husband of the DSP called?
Lynch has lost the ability to create magic. Now it works intermittently and only occasionally. It seemed that he was just taking shape from the Highway to nowhere through Mallholand Drive to the Inland Empire, and in the third season of Twin Peaks he was supposed to give something completely beyond the edge, but the years took their toll. I can only say thank you for the strong author's ending without compromise. There was also a lot that was unclear in the previous two works, but it was impossible to break away. There was only minimal interest.
I'm not sure if Lynch himself understands what he's filming. And the audience builds different theories and tries to interpret the nonsense that Lynch shows us.
It feels amazing. It's like being ridden over by an ice rink, but very, very gently and pleasantly. When Cooper said: "Let's do this," a picture instantly popped up in my head: "And then they fucked." XD Either the sex was like a cleansing, or like a final transition, because Diane almost smeared Cooper's face with her hands there, just not to see. The whole atmosphere reminded me a lot of "Route 60", with all this "every choice determines your fate". My favorite theory from time immemorial is that each of our decisions generates a new reality. But dreams too! So here it is: a dream is a new world, the decision to save Laura is the universe again. This swirling spiral is fantastic. I really like the theory stated above that in every world, no matter what Cooper or Laura is, it will always be a struggle between light and darkness, there is no stopping it, otherwise reality would be black and white without it, like a White Teepee.
@chch93: I don't even want to build theories, especially since there are plenty of them. I like everything about Laura's dream, Cooper's dream, the alternate reality, the time paradox. They all have the right to life. That's why sometimes, at very specific hours, open ends are good - the opportunity to become a co-author and choose your own. Someone will decide that this is the simplest thing, but this is freedom, and not every creator allows the viewer to decide for himself how to end a story that was different for everyone. Someone is talking about a girl at the end of the street and a small town in the middle of nowhere, someone is talking about spirits in a Wigwam, and someone is talking about fantastic realities and the travels of a resourceful FBI agent. I just want to thank David and Frost, and the whole team for this season, because he won me over, won me over many times more than the first two with his sincerity. Through images, confusingly, mysteriously, endlessly, to show how indifferent people are and what consumers we have all become...How alone we all are in this noise of electrical wires...You have to be able to. Simple truths in a roundabout way. Just like the way Cooper brought Laura home. Thanks for this madness. I should repeat it.
@chch93: It seems to me that Lynch considers the explanation to be the main evil, because its scope is too much...narrow ones. Explanation is just one concept, defined, applicable only here and now. And most of the time in life we need such certainty, we can't go anywhere without it, but the funny thing is that that very life is a relative thing. You should never categorically declare something without fully knowing and understanding, you should never put labels on it. "Everything is not what it seems" - that's the main message of the whole Twin Peaks. And you never know what it will become or what it was. You just accept and follow along, enjoying the process.
I'm a simple person, and I won't lie that I've understood anything. I can only say that Audrey and Laura weren't enough for me. But in general, I can't even begin to imagine WHAT must be in my head to create such works.
No one remembered about Donna at all, I see, about the Dancing Dwarf and many other characters. Was Cooper in this episode at all? He doesn't look like himself at all.
It's the best thing that's ever been on TV. And season 3 is the quintessence of Lynch, with Mulholland, the Highway, and even a little Velvet. I love it, I don't have any strength -) I watched every episode, turning off my phone and immersing myself in every second. Cinematic delight! Thank you, David, for being there.
Here I saw heaps of theories about dreams, about other reality, etc. - this is how it should be! Lynch doesn't give answers to the questions that I have, but his work, his cinema, has no objective and accurate theories. To end the season screaming is a phenomenon, and I really think so. Needless to say, the season is not just a masterpiece, it's the quintessence of everything that could and could be. Every episode was suspenseful. I watched the first 2 seasons and the movie 4 or 5 years ago, but it's even better this way. When Laura was shown in her youth, it was like I was transported back a few years. I can imagine what it was like for those who watched the series in the 90s. And I'm glad there won't be a sequel. Lynch showed everything that could be shown. I'm not sure what could be better. And I'm even more glad that the season wasn't filmed to make money. The format is wrong :)
the third season turned out to be negatively different from the rest. The first two seasons have a very rapid development of events, constructive dialogues and are very interesting in general. And the third season is kind of fucked up. Nothing significant could have happened in one episode, all the (!) dialogues were about nothing, absolutely empty. Due to the third season, I lowered the rating of the series by 2 stars. After all, there was a ready-made universe, ready-made actors, and the idea of filming a season in 25 years with the same actors was very cool. But the reincarnation was very upsetting.
Come on, guys! I watched it much later than the release! Yes, I repent! I watched it online, but I didn't download it! And so... since nothing is clear, I'm watching the episode and reading you! I'm watching and reading! It's cool, it's confusing, it's psychedelic, it's got good soundtracks, new and old! My favorite actors! I have the last episode left! I'm turning it on... The fucker! The first one! I think something is wrong... I include it on different sites, different translations - damn, it's still the first one! I think maybe that's what Lynch was up to!! But it turns out!!!! When I first started watching, I didn't notice, and instead of the first episode, I got 18!!! 😂😂 so I started watching from the "conclusion" 😂😂😂 the impression certainly did not spoil about the series! But the series is complicated, and such a fail! 😂 What's with that, people wrote here, "they say I watch one picture for the soundtrack for 5 minutes, I think that's the way it should be, but in fact the player is frozen)) But I surpassed everyone 😂😂
@Noob-Girl: it happened with Nickerborker's Hospital, I watched the first episode under the seagulls, then paused the second one at the very beginning and went to get cookies, and when I arrived, the page was frozen. After the page refresh, the 10th episode was selected, not the second one)) it looks like it's because of the adblock (sometimes the page scan jumps). Surprisingly, the plot of the 1st and 10th series is perfect for each other. After watching the 10th episode, I realized that this was the end because the player did not switch to the next episode)) I was still sitting there afterwards and replaying in my head what could have been filmed in all the other episodes since the series fits into two episodes))
This ending is even worse than the second season. Everything was generally clear there, but I was interested in the fate of the characters. And then even more storylines were simply suspended. And the ending was made as open as possible. This is really the future or the past.
I knew I wouldn't get all the answers in the end, and I thought I was ready for the finale. A huge mistake, it was impossible to be prepared for this. But despite everything, I'm glad that I finally decided to watch this series (although I really wanted to quit in the second season, the laudatory comments under the first episodes about the 22nd episode were stopped). I will definitely review it in the future.
Well, I've watched 3 seasons in a row. The third one, of course, is so-so. Cooper, who has been silent all season, is something and at the end he comes to his senses. Yeah. It was possible to fit the whole plot in 3 episodes. It's not entirely clear why it was removed, and even after 25 years. It's a good idea, of course, but in 25 years you could come up with anything, not an FBI agent who sells Dougie Jones. In fact, if you disassemble the series, it's nonsense. lel. Only the initial episodes and 17 deserve attention. The rest could be safely cut.
Exactly one year has passed since the end of the third season, and now suddenly, this summer, such nostalgia has broken through. And it's so nice to read these hot smart comments, to immerse yourself in this miracle again, which has no equal. I remember when that meditative ending music started playing, which played the last credits... There was a stupor. ) It's true genius, old school, clean style, perfect taste. ...And that lingering sadness from the ending is still alive in my heart, it seems to have settled there forever.
Yes , in my opinion , season 3 was not needed , season 2 is great , by 3 I want a person who will sort out everything that is happening in my head 😬too many questions , and zero answers
Guys, I don't know if anyone will see my comment here, but...can you tell me any series in the spirit of "Jennifer's Body", i.e. High School, thriller, mystery, etc. Of course, there's only one camera job worth doing, but I'm not giving up hope. I wrote to Twin Peaks because there is something in common between them.
I can guess how Lynch works on his films. He records dreams. Many people do this, peeping at some interesting ideas in their dreams. But no one uses their "raw" dreams as a ready-made scenario. No one but Lynch. In general, he himself says this in the series: "we are in a dream, but who will we be filmed for?" In the last episode, the director confessed to us that his dreams are becoming more and more confused, and he himself does not understand what year it is now: 25 years ago, when he was working on the first seasons, or it is happening now, in 2017.
It's a pity season 3 wasn't separated into a separate series here, two completely different series turned out, only in one universe. I watched the 9-episode version, and then I had to scroll through it periodically, I have no idea who completely mastered all 18 episodes
This is something, the last scene of the finale cuts in hard, Laura's classic screamer cuts right to the gut. As I understand it, Laura, who was saved by Cooper, woke up, then what happened to Coop himself? Starting the year with an introduction to such a cult series is a high-level pleasure, I regret that I was a year and a half late, I would like to discuss everything without fail after the end.
I dreamed that a director would appear at the end and sort out everything, because otherwise I feel too stupid if I can't understand the end. And the middle. It wasn't until the very beginning of the season that I finally realized. I also think that one day I will lock myself at home and with a notebook in which I will write everything down, I will review it again. Again, I don't understand. And then I'll buy a case of wine and review it again. And, of course, I won't understand it again, but maybe I can come to terms with it?
I think Laura's dream is just the last episode, from the moment Cooper and Diane cross the electric line on the highway and become Richard and Linda. Audrey has her own dream, and Cooper travels between teepees, alternate worlds, and other people's dreams. What remains behind the scenes is that Laura wakes up in her bed from her mother's scream. But who am I to make sure I understand Lynch? 😆
I've been watching the third season (it's still amazing) and I've made some discoveries. The very first episode of the third episode-the giant in the white wigwam says to Cooper, "Remember, Richard and Linda, 430." Well, the last episode, after having sex with Diane, Coop wakes up, reads a note on the bedside table that Linda does not recognize him, and that his name is Richard. It's powerful.
This can be interpreted as the whole world of Twin Peaks was Richard's "dream" in the real world, the theme of dreams and who is actually sleeping is pedaled more than once in the season. But the ending, where "Kerry" hears Laura's mom calling her, of course, casts doubt on the theory that the Giant initially warned Coop about Bob's possible trap in case of the latter's "death." That is, everything after having sex with Diane at the hotel is probably Bob's trap. Well, as a theory, perhaps it was written about above.
@Imperators: as for the fact that everything that was happening was someone's dream - imho, this is too superficial and banal an explanation that does not take into account a lot of details and events.
I watched season 3 2 years ago, but I remember that in the series there was a phrase that fear and love open the gates to another world. Sex + scared Diana opened these gates, so Cooper ended up in a completely different hotel, he has a different car, etc. If this is a trap, then it's more likely Judy's tricks, because it's not clear what she's capable of at all.
@Arkane: Well, the fact that it was a dream could be a distraction trap. Well, compare the points I mentioned, why would a Giant warn Coop about Richard and Linda? Anyway, it's not clear at what point in time this opening conversation took place. After all, Cooper never entered the white lodge during the third season.
Maybe I'm missing a lot, but I have a theory that in the end Bob was thrown into another universe in the guise of Cooper, where everything is a little different. The main character doesn't look like the real Cooper, but what's the scene in the motel, maybe he decided to replay it a little? And that would be a pretty optimistic conclusion. But whatever the original idea, it's really cool that the series gives so much food for thought.
@Mr_Mоnk: The We Got This Covered portal reported that the #Showtime channel is preparing to bring back the cult TV series "Twin Peaks" for another season. David Lynch is expected to return as director, as well as most of the cast from the main cast.
The Hollywood Museum of Horror posted a cryptic message on Twitter hinting that a sequel to David Lynch's Twin Peaks series will be released in 2020. "Someone we know knows someone who let slip something very interesting about the future of Twin Peaks! If this is true, in 2020 we will squeal and jump!"
The genius Lynch is, as always, a masterpiece! and what a picture, atmosphere, and dialogues he always has, thought out to the smallest detail. you watch the season, especially at first, you don't splice anything at all, your brain is already boiling, but HOW INCREDIBLY AND DELIGHTFULLY BEAUTIFUL IT IS IN EVERY FRAME. Lynch is my love.
and how can he masterfully keep the intrigue))))) "see you in 25 years" is worth it, and I'm sure it's not over yet, and David fucking Lynch has something else in store for us))))
I watched the first season very carefully, it's good and atmospheric. I lost interest in the second season, then I watched it in the background, tired of watching the stupid actions of the characters, for example, how Cooper allowed the girl to participate in the contest and kept watching and waiting for something, instead of stopping the contest, he always trusted his intuition, but here.. The antagonist is weak. I watched the first and last episodes of the third season, and then I squandered them, and I realized from the comments that I had deprived myself of such an interesting twist. Although I was watching everything in a row, instead of sleeping, so I didn't care what it was like.. I didn't get hooked on this series in any way, although Cooper is a very pleasant person, again, the atmosphere of the first season is good, but I won't review it.
I watched it for the fourth time. Season 3 is probably the most brilliant series in the history of television. No one could even come close to him in terms of originality. As in 1990, the series broke the patterns, and in 2017, the new season did the same, but only the first two seasons did not come close to the last, it is much better. Lynch has created something that no one has ever created. He just didn't give a damn about what many viewers don't want to think while watching the series, and made an incredibly complex arthouse piece filled with surrealism, symbolism, philosophy, with an amazing script, beautiful cinematography, and long scenes. Every time I watched it, I noticed something that I hadn't noticed before. "Twin Peaks" is a masterpiece that no one will ever be able to fully understand. It's a puzzle that can't be put together. This is a series whose meaning they have tried, are trying, and will try to make out in the future.
You don't need to understand Twin Peaks, you just plunge into it and let it pass through you, surrealism, it's like that. At first, it was hard to delve into this arthouse, I realized that the series is not simple and you need to watch it in a different way. Original, very interesting, keeps you on your toes. The most mystical mysticism)
There was such hope in the last episode for a happy ending, but after this one, a feeling of emptiness. Heart is broken,so many and so many were not shown,it's clear that this is Lynch,but most of the season, all kinds of bullies,women with mange in their armpits,children vomiting in the car and the like,but what it really worried me and probably a lot of people, alas... ☹️😭
Ahahaha, Lynch is handsome! He just lynched everyone, forgive me for this primitive humor! )))) An atmospheric season, stunningly aesthetically balanced, if anyone wanted simple answers to Lynch's complex wanderings, they were probably disappointed....Lynch seems to be a Buddhist, and also a fan of Advaita Vedanta, if I remember correctly: life is an illusion, we all live in a dream and must wake up. Poor Cooper seems to have lost himself in innumerable realities...What year is it? What's the difference? Thanks to Lynch for the pleasure of being confused but immersed in an atmosphere not of reality, but rather of a dream....
Well, what can I say. I would give the first season a 5, the second a 4 for the abundance of fillers, the third a 3.5 for the huge number of prolonged scenes where it is not necessary, and fleeting scenes where it would be necessary to explain in more detail (in all 18 hours there were literally 4 scenes with Audrey, 3 of them with hysterical swearing and only one gave a hint of her condition). In general, the third season could be shortened by about a third and not lose anything at all, but rather add dynamism. Well, okay, that's how the author sees it, what can I do. The author seemed to have knocked out 18 hours for the season, but did not think through how to score them. In the old seasons, there were a lot of different characters and parallel mini-plots, but here there is practically no such thing: the killers are merged in passing in a random shootout, vanpanchman appears for five minutes a couple of episodes before the finale, and then suddenly kills the main antagonist, Dougie almost the entire series serves as a source of comedic situations. In general, it seems that Tyler Durden worked as Lynch's editor and inserted Tarantino films and random comedies into Jarmusch's film. The mixture is too explosive for me.
So, the series was disassembled from beginning to end. There was a 4-hour video: youtu.be/7AYnF5hOhuM And its translation in four parts: 1 - https://dtf.ru/cinema/138560-perevod-chetyrehchasovogo-razbora-tvin-piks-pervaya-chast 2 - https://dtf.ru/cinema/164994-chto-skazala-lora-palmer-perevod-chetyrehchasovogo-razbora-tvin-piks-vtoraya-chast 3 - https://dtf.ru/cinema/174424-kto-takaya-dzhudi-perevod-chetyrehchasovogo-razbora-tvin-piks-tretya-chast 4 - https://dtf.ru/cinema/202134-poslednyaya-chast-chetyrehchasovogo-perevoda-razbora-tvin-piks
An entertaining read. The first two parts are required reading.
Briefly about the idea of the series from the analysis: Lynch wanted to balance the senseless cruelty of television, clear chewed denouements and emotionless deaths, meaningfulness and empathy. Laura's death starts a chain of engagement, through her and the investigation we learn about her connections with the residents of the city, their lives, empathize and realize how just one death can affect the whole city. FBI agents are the audience's intuition. Bob is a thirst for simple meaningless entertainment, a thirst to know the answer. The audience ruins the concept, seeking to find out who the killer is, which leads to the withering of the series. At the end of the second season, Lynch shows this: Bob took over the Viewer. The entire third season of the season is dedicated to sorting out what this led to. Laura whispers in Cooper's ear, "My dad killed me," a moment that ruined the series. And this is not the most interesting part of the analysis. The articles also contain a huge amount of information about the internal structure of the series, its characters, and individual actions. That's really interesting to read.
@derxot: LNG is in its pure form. But I like to read that...this is more robust than any scenario. What people come up with in their theories is sometimes more interesting than the original plots.
This information: In May 2021, D. Lynch will begin filming a series under the working title Wisteria. Of course, there are zero details. But there are rumors that it could be a sequel to Twin Peaks. Both because the name is "working" and because Sabrina Sutherland, who previously worked with him on the new season of Twin Peaks, will help him.
@Mr_Mоnk: In fact, the connection here is not through an agent, but the fact that Lynch bought out all the debt from Frost on TP before the summer, and his own company, which was involved in the TP film, will handle the series itself. And also before the crown in 2019, the actors hinted a little bit in the fall that something would happen soon.
As a fan, I want to believe that the rights showtime bought from abc have already ended and Lynch took matters into his own hands for the first time and Netflix only supported his idea and we will get something as amazing and strange as Twin Peaks or maybe Twin Peaks itself. And maybe it will be a spin-off from Twin Peaks that will tell a new story in the same universe.
All three seasons: "I don't understand a lot, but it's very interesting." Thanks Uncle Lynch and the commenters who explained all this trash. The series is amazing, you can't turn it on as a background, every frame is valuable, despite all the chaos captured in it. I watched episode 1 from episode 1, the unusual thing started with a woman with a log.. And off she went I'll review it sometime..
I've finished off these three seasons. Anyway. From the very beginning (from the first season), it became clear that everyone in the city called Twin Peaks was fucked up. In season 3, this feeling grows. The fucked-up manner of the characters' behavior accompanied by a stringy musical accompaniment. And season 3 put an end to all this confusion - it's really someone's dream. Which started with a nuclear explosion that unleashed evil, and went on a rampage for three seasons. And Laura's dream, apparently. It's like that)
I'll add more. Most likely, it's a case of a father (Leland) abusing his daughter (Laura). And from such horror, Laura had a dream about it. Like, the evil spirit Bob possessed the father, and then according to the script. For, since Laura, the father is kind. But sometimes he gets possessed by evil, which creates violence with her. She wants to believe it. And this whole kotovasia is reflected in her dream. I just remembered the movie "Stay" with McGregor. There was an accident at the beginning. And the main character, who is dying, has either a dream or a vision, which we watch the whole movie. Although in fact, for gg, only a moment passed before death.
I didn't understand the end of season 3 at all, and I still didn't understand the end of season 3, but according to the idea, there should be a sequel, because where did Sarah Palmer go and she still had the devil inside, they didn't take the devil away from her
In my opinion, everything is quite simple here: when Cooper intervened in the course of events and took Laura to the wigwam, she did not end up in him, but in an alternate universe, where she lived for these 30 years, forgetting about what happened before. Then Cooper moved there, took her to Twin Peaks, and she remembered everything. That's all.
If you put aside all mundane things and forget for a moment that this is Lynch... then you can even envy Diane. To do such things in an intimate setting with Cooper... ah. How many years have Coop and Audrey wanted to see similar scenes? Alas and ah.
In general, the series is a bomb! And everything Lynch does is a mixture of genius and wildness, it's more than just a movie. This is the turn of all thoughts, consciousness, this is depth and this is meaning!
Okay. It was cool. very. I've watched at least forty TV shows, some were more beautifully shot, some were more realistic, some were easier, some were more difficult. but my black soul chose Twin Peaks. it lacks realism {= vitality, like when you feel the emotions of the characters on yourself, or you sit and say "fuck, dude, life"}, but it wasn't created for that either. It was incredibly atmospheric, beautiful, strange, and interesting. It gives me goosebumps. they mixed everything they could, but for me personally it didn't take away its beauty. a game of reality and illusion. a big plus for such a special oddity — everything was strange in the parallel world / wigwam, and therefore the parallelism of this parallel world was felt especially clearly. This is the first time I've seen a series in which every frame is important. Every frame needs to be thought through and correlated. it's a pity that the series seems unfinished — not even in the sense that you don't understand what happened to Dale and Laura in the end, but in the fact that the lines of the other characters — Shelly, Bobby, Becky, Audrey, Nadine, and so on - remained unfinished. most likely, all these characters were inserted here just to dilute the confusion and seriousness of the main line with something lighter, + because the viewer demanded it, but it's still a little sad. well, even though the lines of Norma/Edda and Jenny were completed, and thanks for that, there are a lot of cons, misunderstandings, but my black soul still chose Twin Peaks as her favorite series, because it was the coolest, strangest, most interesting, complex, serious and atmospheric mess in the world. Thank you.
I watched the first season in one go, the second began to smell like shit, as if they took three of the most depressing episodes of the first and stretched it out to 22, but the third was just diarrhea, utter crap, why did the old senile man take it off?..
It was interesting and remained unclear. They've written a lot of beautiful theories here, and I'll probably take one of them on faith. Is Lynch a genius? Let it be a genius, I have a day to figure it out. I would add one version from myself, but I don't have anything at all) and still don't consider time wasted. PS: when Cooper asked at the end of the episode "what year is it now?" this Madame non-Laura Palmer suddenly realized that she had driven the hell where and ended up in an unfamiliar city. She was brought here by a dude who clearly went there, pretending to be an FSB agent, and at that moment he was carefully examining the asphalt! Yes, this moment can lead to a scream! 🤣 Okay, bye for the mix, it was interesting!
One of the few TV shows that I like to watch. But not more than once every couple of years. We must take care of our brains. Well, at least what remains after watching. How does the same episode look different in 2017 and 2021? Magic * screams*
@nyan-cat: I watched it in 2017 and in 2021. Nothing much has changed. As it was not a particularly solid and smooth season, it has remained so. Not without great moments and sequences, but integrity is more important.
The third season was much more difficult than the first two, but I can't say that I didn't like it. To be honest, I finished the second season with the thought "the main thing is that Cooper is fine as a result, I'll get over the rest," but after watching the films and the third season, I realize that my heart hurts a lot for Laura.
One girl who can't be saved despite all the efforts – even those that tear apart the space-time continuum; and one man who is forever stuck in an endless attempt to do it. At least that's my interpretation of the ending. If my interpretation is close to the idea, then... The saddest thing about it is that he was stuck there completely consciously, because before Diane and Cooper "crossed over" (I do not know what it was called in the Russian translation, because I watched it in English; there it is "to cross"), she asked him a couple of times if he was ready. to this, and whether it is worth doing it at all.
He knew that he was going somewhere where all his efforts might just lead him to a dead end, and after the infinity sign shown by Philip Jeffries (with the very point that clearly marked Cooper himself in this loop), he probably even knew that he would get stuck there. I think he decided to do this both out of simultaneous pity for Laura and her tragic circumstances, and... his own failure in the past, which led to Caroline's death.
Well, fuck. An eternity of suffering for both of them, it turns out, when they wanted their happiness and comfort the most.
It remains to read the books. I know that the latest Dossier adds some additional information (and probably 30 more new questions), so maybe my understanding will be fundamentally wrong) But it was cool.
It doesn't seem to be a bad series, but it was so annoying to have stretched moments that don't carry any semantic load at all, personally, for me, the first and second seasons are much more interesting than the third, I was hoping for some unexpected plot twist, but in fact season 3 is more like an attempt to show "look what special effects we can do", in due time maybe it was interesting, but definitely not now.
@NoNaMe909: The extended moments have already been explained, initially the series was for 8 episodes, then Lynch was confronted with the fact that there would be 16 episodes, so those strange moments where they show where the dude sweeps in the bar for five minutes and the rest of the extended moments are quite understandable. The claims about special effects are generally ridiculous, they are very primitive here on purpose, Lynch never aspired to this, he shoots on his own wave and does not look at trends.
@id70201890: and I really liked that moment with the sweeping in the bar, to be honest. I kept watching and waiting for him to clean it up to the end. Some kind of separate kind of buzz :D
It feels like I've looked at the Lost one more time. Nothing is clear, you have to figure out the ending yourself, some other realities. It's terrible how complicated everything is. I think there won't be a sequel if five years later it's still not there, and later it's too old.
I did it! )))) Finally! It was going really hard in places)) In the third season, we were pleased with the musical performances in almost every episode.
For me personally, Twin Peaks will be the first season and the second before Leland's death. That's the kind of strong-willed decision I make at the end. Thank you all.
I've read so much shit about this season here)) And for me, this is almost Lynch's best work. I really liked that the season's focus is on mysticism, and not on the latest showdown between Don and James and all sorts of intrigues with the sudden discoveries of the real father. I like that the ending wasn't presented on a platter with all the explanations, and everyone can decide for themselves what happened. And I like watching the season over and over again to find details that I didn't notice.
I watched it, and thank God. True, season 3 stretched out the general idea, although it blew my head in places, but because of season 2, the feeling of stuffiness remained. Thanks for the musical inserts in season 3, I've added a lot to the playlist.
I definitely liked the first and second seasons more than the third. Both the plot and the actors, looking at the young Cooper is just a separate pleasure, seeing the young and incredibly beautiful female characters of the series is different, and it becomes a little sad that time does not spare anyone, even the perfect Kyle. I'm sure I'll be reviewing the first two seasons, but not the third, there's no sincerity or kindness in it, and I definitely don't want to see so much violence and pain again.
@Irson: what different views everyone has after all) on the contrary, the whole 1st and 2nd seasons were missing something, but the tearful drama seemed too much, so season 3 went the most)
May all fans of this series, namely Lynch's work, forgive me, but this season was just hell for me. There was no question of a simple understanding - this was Twin Peaks, but the atmosphere and plot were repulsive in themselves. It wasn't the names, the events, or anything else that I couldn't figure out. The only constant love was Cooper. Of course, this season has provided answers to many questions, and in some places the old story really slipped through, but the gloom of modernity has not given that unique atmosphere. Twin Peaks for me is a story about Laura Palmer and nothing else.
P.S. The magic of the series touched the time of the episode, despite my complete disinterest, they flew by like lightning.
A great example of the atmosphere of the 90s... with an advertisement for what will happen in the future after the very 25 years that were mentioned in the original (I hope anyone who paid attention to the left-wing Lynch moments in the original series will understand what I'm hinting at). The series created an image - people embodied it. The series is an advertisement for the American way of life and social trends in its purest form, especially since Lynch has shot commercials before and did it well.
In the series itself, I was impressed by the ent and the atmosphere. from episode 1 of season 1 to episode 9 of season 2 + movie...they leave only positive and pleasant impressions. All the rest of the expansion and thinking that was just not needed. As an attempt to appear smarter, deeper than it really is... imho.
Fucked up ending) I thought it wasn't fun for the audience in the 90s, season 1 ended with a shot at Cooper, season 2 with "How's Annie?" and a pause of 25 years. You can go crazy with impatience. And I'm so fucked up, I'm watching the series in 2023, right now they'll logically chew everything up for me in season 3 — and fuck it) I found myself exactly in the place of the audience of the 90s)
The series is great in every way. In general, I don't even want to watch anything after it, other series seem so empty and insignificant. Even if there will never be a sale, then I am quite ready to perceive Twin Peaks not as a familiar narrative, but as an experience — and I really liked it. Our dreams don't have climaxes or denouements either, but they're still nice to watch.
And a few words about Laura Dern. I haven't digested this actress since Star Wars. If it had been someone else, I would have enjoyed my affair with Diana more. But again, Cooper's feelings came out of nowhere, just like they did with Annie. Audrey was freaking out that he hadn't fallen in love with anyone since Caroline's time, he climbed into the wigwam for one, then got out to the other. And while watching, I was sure that Caroline was playing Lucy Lawless— a one-on-one actress. It would have been better if the Warrior Queen had been called to the role of Diana — at least their appearance rhymed and there would have been a prerequisite for Cooper's sympathy.
@Nonelementary: as I understand you, I've been watching, I'm sitting in my head with a lot of questions, but I understand who the fuck is going to give me the answers. And I remember feeling sorry for the viewers who watched the first season, and then the second. And here I am in the same situation, only if there is a sequel someday. The series is gorgeous, Kyle McLachlan is just handsome, and you just want to watch him. And Lynch is just a genius of madness)
Well, another famous TV series has been watched. There are so many words that I want to say.
I think I'll start with a reboot. I liked the third season of the series more than the first two - it is brighter, more colorful, more confusing, keeps the intrigue stronger, much more complicated. I liked the songs so much at the end - it turned out to be a full-fledged performance, complementing the series. And I was constantly thinking: I would like to learn the X-Files, how to make a reboot successful. There are many TV shows that have a restart, but it was the X-files that came to my mind, yes. Regarding the ending, I have read a lot of interpretations here, all interesting and have a place to be. But I agree with the theory that Laura Palmer is a girl who cannot be saved in any universe. For me, everything became obvious after the phrase: "We live in a dream," and I did not believe in a happy ending for at least someone initially. The ending gave me goosebumps - great emotions for such a series.
@Anlesss: And now - a paradox, but showing how cool this series is. I didn't like the plot, I didn't like the move with who killed Laura (I read that Lynch didn't want to disclose this issue, but the studio bosses insisted), I didn't like the characters, none of them. It was all too much for me. I expected to see just a detective story in the locations of a tiny town with its unhurried life and secrets, but I came across something completely different in the end, and I was not ready for this. But how atmospheric the series is, how thoughtful the characters are in all their pretentiousness and strangeness, how thoughtful the presentation is, how beautifully it's all filmed and presented to the viewer, with great attention to the smallest details, how well the actors play, in the end, bribed me, not giving up the series. I liked Josie (more because of the actress, I don't know, she stood out favorably from everyone, in my opinion, or something). And how gorgeous Laura looks, whispering all sorts of things in Agent Cooper's ear - a strange association, probably, but I thought about Renata Litvinova for some reason, that's such a parallel. And Karen Page is good too. In general, despite all the "but"described above, I can't help but admire the series as a whole. I understand why he became legendary. You may like it or not, but it is, without a doubt, a phenomenon in the world of serials. Brand. I can only say bravo to the creators.
I was waiting for the full completion of the story, thinking how good it was that I wasn't among those who had been waiting for the sequel for so many years. And now I'm sitting in shock, realizing that there won't be a sequel...
@Rekhhar: There is a possibility that Mark Frost and David Lynch were secretly working on a script for a possible season 4. Let's just remember how long they worked on season 3 and it didn't become known right away. Who knows... if so, then maybe something will be released. Whether it's a book, a TV series, a movie, or something else.
Kingdom of heaven to the Director who revealed to me the Eraser Head, the Elephant Man, Wild at heart, and the most important hit, Twin Peaks, is a masterpiece for me, I will always remember Laura Palmer.
Don't look for meaning where it just doesn't exist. After filming it for so many years, those involved finally realized that they had taken the shit off and decided to just stop. Therefore, there is simply no end (even without meaning). Well, at least they understood after a year and stopped without any point.
I won't say that I like the mysticism in the series, or the detective component, both of which are poorly done, I fell in love with the first and second seasons of Twin Peaks precisely because of the atmosphere, this whole vibe of a small old town where everyone knows each other. I also liked that the characters care about food, there is such a cliche in movies and TV series (if you can call it that) when the Persians are asked if they want tea / coffee / something else - they refuse automatically, as if this question does not even need to be considered, and in principle on food few places make an emphasis, but not here. In Twin Peaks, the characters feel alive because of such things, they will happily drink a cup of coffee when they visit someone, or they will willingly order a cherry pie in a cafe.
As for all this crazy abstraction of Lynch, I think that there is no deep meaning in it, it is possible that there is some kind of logic, the idea of the director, but first of all it's all a mystery where there is some other world aka a black lodge, spirits, anomalies, visions and so on. All this is peppered with a bunch of scenes shot as if under heavy drugs, it's useless to look for meaning in them, firstly because no one will give them answers, secondly because there is no sense in it, that's the beauty of abstractionism, you can show complete nonsense and that's it, the author's movie is ready, of course, without such scenes, Twin Peaks would not be Twin Peaks, they greatly complement the atmosphere and set the mood for the series.
The third season turned out to be weaker than the first and second, due to an even more vague plot, of course it was interesting to watch, the cast drags, and horror was added specifically, in the second season there were also scary moments for those years, but the third season is a full-fledged horror, the delusional scene also became many times more. There are a lot of long-drawn-out moments like character stares or scenes like the one where the janitor sweeps the floor for 2 minutes or the girl is about to leave Gordon's room for 5 minutes, it's clear that banter, but it doesn't stop being sloppy.,
@Teshka: also, the endings of many episodes are still stuffy, the music in the bar is very mediocre in most cases (although some tracks are very impressive) and the dialogues in the same bar that lead to nothing. Cooper's return is the best episode of this season, the ending is depressing and delusional, the main villain was defeated by a vanpanchman with a green glove, and there the machinations began over time, I did not feel any satisfaction from the finale, and in general, the third season is not really about Twin Peaks, all that happened specifically in it is a Hawk chatting with Margaret was talking about nothing, a tedious semi-detective at the police station, and moments with old characters that I often wanted to skip. All the screen time belongs to Dougie, who is surrounded by a bunch of illogically behaving people towards him, Cooper's Doppelganger, aka evil Cooper, who is engaged in an unknown schism, but drags with charisma and the FBI - sometimes something interesting, sometimes stuffy.
And of course, the final touch to the atmosphere is made by the music of Angelo Badalamenti, who has preserved many of his skeletons.
I like it when the creator doesn't answer all the questions and leaves the viewer food for thought, but this project breaks records in terms of complexity. Nolan and Lindelof nervously smoke on the sidelines compared to Lynch. Yes, there were goosebumps scenes and moments, but in the end they fucked up with the finale. It's too confusing and there aren't enough answers. Lynch needed to take everything into his own hands from the very beginning and finish it when the actors were still alive or they agreed to play, because he couldn't shoot the sequel because he stupidly didn't have time or everything had already dragged on too much.
PS. If anyone wants to experience the same (imho 100 times more) emotions from watching, I advise you to watch "The Leftovers". In addition, you can find many similarities.
@e46owner: one season, for some reason it seemed to me that then it was closed. I think it looks like he took off half of the Lost. But he's not very good with movies)
@PlanePassenger: Well, his hunting is normal. I didn't finish the lost one. He also did well with the Keepers. And the Abandoned ones are just ecstasy. It's from season 2 that the fun begins.
I have no words to describe my feelings. This series is a masterpiece. Really, I don't want to watch anything else... I'm going to hang a portrait of David Lynch in my house.
@KatrinVamp: I can't share the excitement of the third season (and the second half of the second), but such dedication and enthusiasm is truly inspiring in our time :)
Well that.. I finally watched what I started watching back in the 90s.. After a futile attempt to review the first two seasons in '16, I finally pulled myself together and finished what I started. Only the "Last Dossier" remains.
After watching it, there are a lot of thoughts, and even fewer answers. But that was Lynch, the director who appears once in a hundred years. It is unlikely that we will see someone like this in the near future. Maybe never.
And I don't think we'll ever know how it ended. Maybe one of the commentators was right or was close to it. But perhaps everyone will choose for themselves their own ending the way they want to see it. But most likely, everyone is right in one conclusion - no one will ever save Laura Palmer..
But it was all mind-blowing and mind-blowing! Although sometimes it was not clear at all.
We will miss the warm and lamp-like atmosphere of Twin Peaks and its outstanding residents...
I finished off season 3!) Hooray, comrades:) Twin Peaks is one of the best TV shows I've ever seen! Finally, the whole picture has more or less developed)) after watching 3 seasons, the 92nd movie and the cut movie, plus the 2-hour reviews on YouTube, in general, wow! I dream of visiting that very coffee shop to taste damn delicious coffee and fresh cherry pie! :) well, give Bob a pumpkin! Where is my green glove))🧤
Lynch and Frost have created a very ambiguous, non-trivial, magically mystical atmosphere, which is incredibly interesting to watch and immerse yourself in this process, there is no need to guess and understand anything, just watch, then you will get real pleasure)
February 2026, one of the most ancient Hellstalts closed - I watched Twin Peaks from beginning to end in 2 weeks, and it was, as they say, mind blowing. Yes, I would certainly like more chewing, but we have what we have. I'm not sorry for the time spent. Although again, the series is far from for everyone, a wild mix of genres, a lot of emotions, etc. The emotions from the ending are just devastation (in a good way, of course). Of the entire series, only the soapy second half of season 2 (+- according to the survey guide) didn't go much further. Season 3 is great, imho, this is what everything was supposed to come to.
It's sad to say goodbye to the series, but it blew my mind! 😁 Thanks to the analysis on YouTube, which helped us understand the full picture of the world of Lynch and Frost.
Discussion: Season 3, Episode 18 Join the Discussion
383and yes, what year is this
Everything went to the pussy at the moment when the Evil Cooper still got to the real coordinates and got into the white lounge there. He got what he wanted, and cast himself a level higher along with the giant and Madame Dildo, and from that moment he doesn't give a fuck about the showdown in the black lounge, and everything that happens in the sheriff's office is just a game for him, an illusion, and he himself can already cast whole worlds-dreams. Like when he was a worker, he became a CEO, and now he doesn't give a fuck about driving piles.
I wonder if there will be a sequel? Because how to finish with a detective without answers to questions (who has no questions left? like what the fuck did Red need? What was Becky, Gersten, Stephen for?Where did Desmond go? Who's Judy? What is the role of a Jumper and a grandson with a grandmother? Etc.) it was expected, but not cool.
And the moment "WE LIVE IN A DREAM" also seemed incredibly creepy and cool. It seems to me that this can even be taken as a metaphor for the fact that all these characters are just a figment of David Lynch's imagination in the end))
Although this "we" is confusing.
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Seriously, the idea of building a large-scale mystical entourage shown in episode 8 (and partly a scene from episode 1 about the mother of evil Judy)...It looks very good. But this idiotic running around, which Lynch had to stretch 2 times because of the claims of showtime (the original script is only for 8-9 episodes of chronome for 40 minutes, but certainly not for an hour)...I've never had ice at all.
Coop's face looked extremely comical against the background in the penultimate episode...but not creepily. Damn, what's so creepy about it?
"RYAYA, we are living in a dream! Wake up, you're crying!"... well, get angry.
I'll tell you separately...As much as I love the image of Laura Dern in Jurassic Park, I hate what she has become now...She became an absolutely miserable actress, a shadow of the past....A collective image of a squalid agenda. It is very sad that Lynch did not find someone more worthy and less impotent for the role of Diane.
The scene with cowboys in the icandy cafe.
I am glad that the backup Dougie/Cooper has been returned to the family.
One thought, one thought torments me: has Cooper always had an affair with Diana?
Is there an instruction manual for the whole season somewhere?
You know, he helped me not only rethink the series, but also the approach to work..)
Thanks!
there is a great reserve for the future. In addition to Cooper's storyline, it remains unclear where Diane went, what happened to Audrey. There are a lot of other little things, but they are no longer so important.
In general, I'm sure that the sequel will be filed in one form or another. Such an iconic franchise will not be left alone. We can only hope for the participation of at least Mark Frost, Kyle McLachlan, Sheryl Lee and decent directors, screenwriters, etc., which they will try to do at least normally.
Well, the Villeneuve Dune is also good, the director has formed his own style and I respect him too.
And about Twin Peaks, mb, and so on. A remake will be released instead of the sequel. Perhaps that would be for the best, although I also wanted to know what Lynch's idea would be next. I don't think he didn't come up with it. Most likely, he was planning a sequel, but he is one of those people who keeps the very fact of the creative process a secret. Perhaps he shared it with the same Frost, discussed it. It would be great if the draft of the script is still there and one day we can get acquainted.
What's wrong with Audrey? What's going on?!
In general, Sheryl Lee is beautiful! It's a pleasure to look at her.
Lynch is a genius
Has anyone figured out what year Cooper was? In this reality or an alternative one?
My God, how many questions are there in my head! I think this ending can be discussed endlessly.
A happy ending for Jenny-And that's an unheard-of generosity in general. The rest needs to be reviewed and rethought.
Answers to questions should not have been expected, Lynch has such a style..but still, I was hoping for a continuation of Audrey's story, eh...
is it really all Laura's dream, and after screaming at the end of the episode, she wakes up..?And I even like it if that's the case.After all, we've been told for a long time that it's all just a dream, the only question was whose dream it was, maybe now we know the answer.
Anyway, see you in 25 years!!
, Sarah's scene with a photo - what are these dancing Leland from the same photo and "Where's Annie?" taken together
, I seriously doubted that the scenes between Cooper and Diane were the scenes between Cooper and Diane after Cooper was scared off, and not the scenes between Dopelkuper and Diane during the ahem rap meeting, but it somehow doesn't add
up to an action cooler than in most blockbusters
. The scene in Carrie's house strongly smells of Mullholland The drive
in the conversation scene with Alice Tramond clearly has something more than just a drop of a couple of famous Twinpix surnames,
and the last scene, on the way home, I don't need another one.
Cliffhanger or is the whole series really just a dream come to an end?
If the first option is available, see you in 2042.
If the second one is, goodbye, Twin Peaks. I will miss you :(
So Cooper returns to the past in order to prevent the death of Laura Palmer. He fails, she runs away. Or she does, and she's alive in an alternate reality, where Cooper and Diane eventually moved to bring her home. He brings her home, but there's no one named Sarah Palmer there, and they've never even heard of her. Cooper asks what year it is. Laura realizes something or remembers something and starts screaming terribly. End. Well, where does that fit?
I'm looking forward to the next season. I'm waiting for Audrey.
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Well, hello, the wonderful town of Twin Peaks.
Those eighteen hours were wonderful. Completely different. And the ending, for all its incomprehensibility, is also wonderful. And this is exactly the ending that was needed.
No end in sight. There is simply no end. The story is endless and it can move in any direction. The ending, which does not answer important questions, forces you to ask new ones, and which makes you suffer in trying to solve the riddle of David Lynch. Although he doesn't know the general answer himself. No one knows. Every guess, every version will be correct simply because you think so. Because that's what you think. Lynch probably has all the answers. But these are his answers. And you need to get your own.
There shouldn't be a single correct answer.
There will be no right thought. There will be no correct theory.
There will be no right answer.
The whole solution lies in us. How we feel, how we believe, is the way it is.
Well, then. Goodbye, beautiful Twin Peaks. We will miss you and expect nothing. What happened to the series is the best thing that could have happened. And it will never happen again. It's unbelievable.
Twin Peaks is useless to predict. It needs to be lived through. And then this story will become our story, your story, and all the answers will come by themselves.
Thanks! Bravo, Lynch!
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What year is it now?
Is this the future or the past?
Is this a dream or a reality?
Cooper went back in time and saved Laura. Then they showed us the "anti" 1x1 episode where the corpse disappeared and Pete went fishing. In episode 18, Laura had a dream in which she wasn't Laura (in the Lodge, Cooper asked her many times, "Are you Laura Palmer?" and she replied, "I feel like she's me, but... I don't remember any more, but you get the gist) And in her dream, Cooper comes to her and takes her to Twin Peaks. There's another family living in the family home, and the Palmers have never lived there.
And now the main, key point: (remember how Twin Peaks began. Sarah Palmer was walking through the house and shouting "Loraaaaaa" to wake her up, but she wasn't at home, she was already in cellophane on the beach) and in a dream, after asking "What year is it now?" from the house where they said they didn't know any Palmers, Sarah's same cry "Looooaaaa!" was heard. and Laura realized that she screamed in her sleep and woke up already in 1x1, only alive. That is, Sarah has already gone into her room, and Laura is sleeping, not lying on the shore. The bottom line is that Cooper changed the show. Everything in him has become so that Laura is alive. And Cooper turns out he wouldn't have come to Twin Peaks anymore, and everything is fine with him, since they killed Bob in episode 17.
I'm sorry for the downidz content, I'm writing on emotion))
If Laura needs to be rescued, then there's still BOB in Leland. With Laura alive, BOB remains and all the problems go with him. If BOB did die in the past in a future murder, why save Laura from whom?
Besides, it was even more like Cooper's dream than Laura's-he was doing everything as he was supposed to, and Laura didn't seem to be herself and didn't understand anything of what was happening. He goes with Dayana, then they cross reality by car and something went wrong - Dayana sees her copy, loses her memory (or acquires a new identity?), Cooper is confused, but continues to search for Laura, he is not confused by the corpse in the house (by the way, who was that?) and as a result, he doesn't understand what's going on in the Palmers' house...
P.S. Any attempt to rationalize Lynch cannot be logical :)
it feels like Coop never came out of the Wigwam for the second time. Either he's sitting in this chair from the beginning and the whole 3rd season is his illusion (I hope not).
Even after episode 17, I suspected, "It's Lynch! What the hell is a happy ending?! It can't be because it can't be!" It's nice to be right) But it's a pity that Lynch turned out to be right and "ruined" everything!))
Is the Lucy and Andy line (and their characters) a parody of the TV series of that time (since the airing of the first season)? however, I'm sure that not only they, but also a good part of the humorous and melodramatic lines in the series.
today's finale (with Laura's scream) wrapped up the events, and the scream that Laura calls out to is her mother's call, which no one else will respond to - only Laura with her sobbing cry in the parallel universe (where it dawned on her that they were moving from one life to another, and to another, and into another one, until an infinite number of these approaches are repeated). perhaps the nerdy characters, winding the circles of all these parallel realities, begin to gravitate towards merging realities, which is why so much in each of them is from others. There are a lot of people in Twin Peaks who know about other worlds, and even about ways to get there (offhand: a lady with a log, an Indian sheriff, Major Briggs...); in wigwams, they remember and realize the former universes so much that they even refuse to believe that their reality is now a wigwam (hence the attempt to interact with new neighbors in the wigwam - however, with old/ familiar faces - according to the old schemes and subordinates, for example, the Lilands and Loras turn out to be anyone but them).
and Cooper keeps trying to change the past or the future, whereas movement is possible only in parallel universes, and not "along" the same one. In one layer of the universe, the "HAND" looks like a very ordinary tree in the middle of the forest (the second season, the last episode, the scene of Cooper's transition to the wigwam), in the second universe, this hand looks like a dwarf, and in another - an animated tree with a head of flesh.
The ending is really scary, creepy, and intriguing. There are a lot of questions left and a lot have appeared, but that's the whole point, I take it?
The last episode with Laura can be considered both an answer and a question. But the bottom line is that it makes you look at the episodes you've already watched in a different way.
(By the way, the "current" and "previous" residents of the Palmer house have surnames like Grandma and her Grandson (Chalfont/Tremond)).
I just don't want to interpret all the works after MD: "it's all a dream, it's all a dream." It's the easiest way.
No matter how hard Cooper tries, no matter what unique skills of walking through worlds and different times he has acquired, there are FORCES THAT ARE STRONGER, and there is a "story about a little girl who lives in a house down the street." There will always be a girl, Laura, who cannot be saved, no matter how hard you try. The finale gave me goosebumps. And the fact that not everything has been explained and there are many questions left - is it really necessary that everything be chewed up? You have to think a lot, straining not only your brain, but also your soul at the same time.
Джуди которую все ищут, и о которой запрещать говорить Жефрис на китайском означает "Обьяснять" "находить смысл" "растолковывать". Джу даи - это высшее зло по Линчу.
Despite the fact that "explanation is a negative force," what do you think Laura might have said in Dale's ear in the Wigwam (after all, this is the scene featured in the credits)? If she only told me where to look for her, then that's not enough, it seems to me, especially since Dale was communicating with a Firefighter who could convey something not only verbally, but also through signs (as in the case of the Lady with the Log, whose widow she may be); I think she could give a parting word for the opportunity to get out of a kind of "imprisonment", however, with the caveat that he might miss something again. In my understanding, that's what happened: he really missed something; however, what exactly is anyone's guess.
When Laura didn't die, we were shown Sarah howling and smashing her photo, at which point Cooper loses Laura as he leads her through the woods.
From the references to Lynch's other works, I can mention: a time loop ("Highway to Nowhere") with a certain "stop", as Jeffries showed in episode 18; the distinction between dream and reality ("Mulholland Drive"), several plot layers ("Inner Empire"; in TP it is more difficult, since there is more abundance of meanings than the inner "container", as I understood, of a certain character), from there, the characters have new names, although this was also the case in MD; the element of fabulousness (Freddy's victory, Candy in a pink robe), in my opinion, is inherent in the "Wild Heart" in a sense; the criminal background, the strangeness of the world - at least from the "Blue Velvet"; from the "Eraser Head"-- wigwam floor + industrial theme, the second is observed in the monastery of a Firefighter; in addition, from the CHAPTER one can note a scene from outer space: the hero of Jack Nance releases something like a smoky cloud in the form of a sperm from his mouth - it reminded how the "Mother" emits BOB. There may be some other references, these are the main ones that can be noticed.
If we talk about why the electricity turned off at the end, then I can explain this by saying that it is related to Laura's "awakening", since electricity is somehow tied to dreams (it was not for nothing that at the time of Dougie's transition to Dale, Gordon heard a certain "pulse" emitted by the equipment).
So it's a very strange assumption - maybe Carrie Page is not Laura at all, but a missing page from a diary? Kind of like a piece of Laura too. But this is completely far-fetched on my part))
- Well, I thought about it... What the hell!
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The maestro gave a very important explanation many years ago))
I'm glad for those who understood everything. Or Lynch as quantum mechanics -- ""If you think you understand quantum mechanics, you don't understand quantum mechanics"".
The final hour of "Twin Peaks: The Return" ended David Lynch's baffling series by brilliantly bringing back the show's most important figure: Laura Palmer. Dale Cooper returned to the past to stop Laura's murder, but his attempt was thwarted by Judy, an "extremely negative force" that pulled Laura out of a familiar timeline and moved her somewhere else. Cooper prevented Laura's death, her body from the pilot issue disappeared from the beach, but he did not save her. In fact, he only prevented her death in one of the timelines.
In one of the early episodes of "The Return," Fireman told Cooper in the red room something that claims to be the biggest clue that helps him make sense of the ending: "Remember 450. Richard and Linda. Two birds, one stone."
After 18 hours of the series, this phrase finally bore fruit.
Attentive viewers might have noticed that 430 is the number of miles that Cooper and Diana traveled before moving to another dimension created by Judy. Richard and Linda were the new names of Cooper and Diana, respectively. When Cooper reads the letter, Diana has left him, signing the note as "Linda" and addressing it to "Richard." After all, Gordon Cole said at the beginning of part 17 that "two birds, one stone" were the last things Cooper said to him before his disappearance.
According to Gordon Cole,
"The last thing Cooper said to me was, 'If I disappear, like [Major Briggs and Philip Jeff] do everything you can to find me.
The alternate timeline is filled with terrifying pascals, foreshadowing at the end that nothing good is in store. Something was obvious (Cooper/Richard having lunch, interrupted by someone named Judy), while others require more in-depth knowledge of Twin Peaks. Cooper found Laura Palmer in a new dimension, but she knew herself as Carrie Page from Odessa, Texas. There was a statuette of a white horse in her house, which Sarah Palmer saw the night before Laura and Maddy were killed.
Another one happened when Cooper and Laura finally got to Twin Peaks and knocked on the door that should be Laura's house. It wasn't Sarah Palmer who answered, but Elim Tremond, who told the couple that she had bought the house from Mrs. Chalfont. These names sound familiar, because they can be traced back to the Black Wigwam itself (Mrs. Chalfont was in the trailer park where Teresa Banks died and later, she appeared to Laura as Mrs. Tremond and gave her a painting that acted as a portal from her bedroom to the wigwam).
Before Philip Jeffries allowed Cooper to enter the past in part 17, his smoke took the form of an infinity sign. At the end of part 18, it becomes clear that Jeffries warned Cooper that reaching into the past is an endless cycle in which good fights evil through timelines and realities. Evil wins in the past when Judy removes Laura from this timeline. Evil wins out in an alternate dimension when Carrie Page awakens as a shocked Laura Palmer. But the good, nevertheless, continues to try. This is David Lynch's optimism.
Part 8 turned Twin Peaks into a massive, great war between evil (Judy is the monster who gave birth to Bob) and good (Fireman gives birth to Laura Palmer, the warrior who can overcome the evil created by the atomic bomb). Part 18 ends the series by saying that the struggle never ends. It's bound to repeat itself; but the way Dale Cooper exists, goodness can always fight back. Lynch's finale makes it absolutely clear; that's what Twin Peaks is about. And there is hope to see how Cooper copes with evil in the future.
Again (the first time they were confused, but I don't care), I will note an important logical error. I believe Lynch intended it that way, but there's a huge gaffe in his idea.
If Cooper is trying to save Laura (take her out of the woods) from Leland/Bob, then L/B will continue his evil. So Cooper ruins the entire plan of the Firefighter and Senorita Dido, created in the 1950s.
If BOB has already been destroyed by Freddy and cannot act in the past, because time is non—linear, Cooper has no one to save Laura from.
I also note that this article does not explain the essence inside Sarah Palmer at all, which imho is very important. But I fully admit that the article is very close to the truth, and the same Sarah is embedded for beautiful shots and atmosphere without a logical explanation.
According to Lynch's idea, Laura, in the scene with James, saw Cooper in the woods, so she screamed. The scene is taken from "Fire, come with me." That is, in the movie she screams too - she sees Cooper too - so Cooper came to save her - he doesn't save her, because in the movie BOB kills her.
I may be wrong, because I do not know how to interpret the scene in which Cooper leads Laura by the hand through the forest, after which she disappears somewhere. My main assumption is that Judy or Sarah, or someone else, intervenes in the process of changing the past, returning Laura to her former path, i.e. everything goes according to the film - Laura meets with Ronette/Leo/Jacques and a familiar event occurs. However, this interpretation already contradicts the series, as we are shown that the corpse has disappeared and Pete is quietly fishing. However, this can be seen as a temporary change in the past that Sarah/Judy/Xs who felt. That is, after this temporary change, IT intervenes and Laura follows her destined path.
But one more question arises - in the first episode, the Giant/The firefighter asked Cooper to memorize one sound. We hear this sound just when Laura disappears. So everything is going according to the Giant's plan? Or was it a warning to Cooper?
And one more thing - it is unclear when the scenes with Cooper in the Black Wigwam (with Laura, with Leland, etc.) take place. If they occur after Cooper's attempt to save Laura, then it turns out that Laura was dragged into the Black Wigwam? If Cooper saved Laura, then she shouldn't be in the Wigwam either, because she's alive and in the real world?
Ohh, that's it, the thought doesn't go any further. Yes, I probably wrote everything rather haphazardly and rather incomprehensibly, but maybe at least someone will come up with some new ideas or interpretations?
Laura, apparently, "flies away" to a parallel reality from the Black Lodge. And in this reality, Cooper is looking for her. The only question remains-how did she get into the Lodge? Was it because Cooper wanted to save her? Like, even though she wasn't killed, she disappears from the real world. Although, again, this goes against the movie, because she gets killed there...
That's all I can say.)
Season 3 "wakes up" several times. 1 - when he woke up in the hospital and stopped being Daggy, but became our familiar Agent Cooper. 2 - he wakes up in the morning at the hotel where Dayana has already left, goes out and sees that it's not the same hotel (I didn't immediately notice that in the evening they enter the one-story one, and in the morning he leaves the two-story one, and the rooms on the doors look different, correct me if I have glitches), then it's like another time, but in fact, it can also be called awakening No. 2, because we have another Cooper in front of us, in which the character traits of an evil Doppelganger and a sympathetic agent are integrated. He is also very sad, lost and tired, and surrounded by the most banal and realistic reality.
Well, the third awakening is the finale, Laura's scream, the dream ends, they both woke up (if it was a "shared dream", there is such a theory), the film is over.
By the way, it is a great pity that David Bowie did not have time to participate in this project properly - he would have been here at the right time with:
There is a version. I'm too lazy to check it separately. In episode 16, Cooper left a note, it seems to have been read already in the 17th. What time is 2:53, huh 2+5+3 =10, and 10 is the end number. Has anyone found this ten? 5 times they emphasized the frame on camera No. 10, where the Drunk is closed, but imho this is a false move.
I have a theory that the last piece of the timeline should be in episode 10. At least Cooper's exit through path 15 instead of 3 and, consequently, awakening in episode 15 instead of 3 is hardly a coincidence. Apart from pointing to the episode, I have not yet been able to decipher 10 in any way.
I think he specifically prescribed the disclosure of the killer in the middle of the second season, so that the series would be closed as soon as possible due to the imminent decline in ratings with the disclosure of the main plot.
After seeing the success of Twin Peaks, it dawned on him that he could be bound by contracts for a very long time...logic.
It's just that it's not customary for people to scold creators...especially when they go to Showtime with a script for 9 episodes and say, "HEY, I GAVE YOU A SHIT ABOUT THE CONTINUATION OF THE LEGENDARY SERIES! PLEASE PAY!"
As far as I remember, in the feature film, at the very end, they spent a little time on what happened with Cooper after. And if the film hadn't failed miserably and become a box office hit, it's possible that Lynch would have continued to make sequels in the form of films. And even more so, 26 years later, he would not have released a sequel in the form of season 3 if he had been satisfied with the season 2 finale.
Although season 3 ended with a semi-open finale, it still answered a lot of questions, while still leaving questions, but in my opinion, the overall outline of the story has become much more complete, the history of the world and the plot of Twin Peaks have become much clearer and more open.
the movie is just a prequel for a block of dough. Although it came out quite well, it didn't have any potential initially, because it was a fan service.
The finale was in the 9th episode of the second season. The story is over. The rest is revenge on Bob (evil must be destroyed and Beaver must win) and the revelation of the mystical lore...well, for the sake of interest, they also gave birth to a story about the mother of "EVIL" - Judy...these are just sketches for the finished story so that the viewer doesn't yawn. This can be scripted at least every episode, increasing the layering of the story.
The proof of the claim that Lynch wanted to shoot season 1 is just a calculation... he had 18 episodes in his plans... (and I'm not talking about season 3) he had 18 "episodes" in his plans for the entire series...
8 episodes of the first season +9 of the second +the prequel film (as an extended series - the missing piece of the puzzle) = 18.
This season (like the films) is completely unnecessary for rational interpretation, you can not understand anything, but feel it on an intuitive level and immerse yourself in this mystical world, because it seems that this is the original idea of the author (remember the scream of Laura Palmer in the last scene, because he really is a million)
But, without taking long to wait, I decided, as usual, to find answers to questions about this work, but I knew that the main thing was to ask them correctly and specify the right vector. After reading the comments and a couple of articles on the Internet, I learned that many people talk about time loops and similar topics, and one cannot but agree that this is an integral part of understanding the plot. But few people mention one of the most interesting themes for cinema - it's dreams, which Lynch uses in almost every one of his films. I have long had the impression that his main philosophy is to explore the boundary between a dream and reality. Almost 10 years ago, my favorite website on the Internet was ***lynch.info where, after studying, you can find out that the iconic film "Highway to Nowhere" is the dream of a schizophrenic killer, and "Mulholland Drive" is the dream of akrtis Diana.
That's all my conclusion, it's purely personal and subjective, and I'll be glad if someone listens or speaks out, for the first time in my life I decided to write a comment /review. It remains to add that surrealism is not only art, but also an integral part of our lives (dreams). That the nuclear mushroom is the obvious appearance of a black wigwam in the TP universe (remember how Lynch shows the holes/portals forming in the nuclear mushroom and how Bob's spirit/sphere begins to emerge). That Audrey is just somehow connected to the Black Wigwam (tulpa? A doppelganger? a dream?). And for me, the main questions still remain: Twin Peaks - whose dream or dreams is it, and where are their boundaries.
I believe that Twin Peaks has completely exhausted itself and left no questions that could be continued in the new season. And in my opinion, Lynch's latest film, "Inner Empire," which I once saw in a movie theater in the year of its release, turned out to be much more complicated and crazier.
As a result, all three episodes looked at the same breath and really revealed a lot of necessary information. And I've changed my mind a bit. Maybe I'll review the season again. Especially after reading the comments and global discussions about references.
Personally, I still have a question about the branch with Billy. Why, why, and how? Why didn't he meet Andy and behave very strangely? What's the point here?
I also wonder what's the matter with Sarah. Had her Mother really "settled" in her? Maybe it's worth revisiting the moments in which she appears and makes remarks? * suddenly remembered how she watched a looped battle (isn't that a hint of the world around her?)*
By the way, Andy was told a lot by the Fireman afterwards! And also at a certain time (although Billy seemed to be talking about 2:30 instead of 2:53). Maybe a Firefighter=Billy? And what was the husband of the DSP called?
There was also a lot that was unclear in the previous two works, but it was impossible to break away. There was only minimal interest.
When Cooper said: "Let's do this," a picture instantly popped up in my head: "And then they fucked." XD Either the sex was like a cleansing, or like a final transition, because Diane almost smeared Cooper's face with her hands there, just not to see.
The whole atmosphere reminded me a lot of "Route 60", with all this "every choice determines your fate". My favorite theory from time immemorial is that each of our decisions generates a new reality. But dreams too!
So here it is: a dream is a new world, the decision to save Laura is the universe again. This swirling spiral is fantastic.
I really like the theory stated above that in every world, no matter what Cooper or Laura is, it will always be a struggle between light and darkness, there is no stopping it, otherwise reality would be black and white without it, like a White Teepee.
I just want to thank David and Frost, and the whole team for this season, because he won me over, won me over many times more than the first two with his sincerity. Through images, confusingly, mysteriously, endlessly, to show how indifferent people are and what consumers we have all become...How alone we all are in this noise of electrical wires...You have to be able to. Simple truths in a roundabout way. Just like the way Cooper brought Laura home.
Thanks for this madness. I should repeat it.
https://realist.online/article/devid-linch-o-finale-tvin-piksa-i-budushem-seriala
I can only say that Audrey and Laura weren't enough for me.
But in general, I can't even begin to imagine WHAT must be in my head to create such works.
To end the season screaming is a phenomenon, and I really think so.
Needless to say, the season is not just a masterpiece, it's the quintessence of everything that could and could be.
Every episode was suspenseful. I watched the first 2 seasons and the movie 4 or 5 years ago, but it's even better this way. When Laura was shown in her youth, it was like I was transported back a few years. I can imagine what it was like for those who watched the series in the 90s.
And I'm glad there won't be a sequel. Lynch showed everything that could be shown. I'm not sure what could be better. And I'm even more glad that the season wasn't filmed to make money. The format is wrong :)
Thank you, Master! It was beautiful.
Yes, I repent! I watched it online, but I didn't download it! And so... since nothing is clear, I'm watching the episode and reading you! I'm watching and reading!
It's cool, it's confusing, it's psychedelic, it's got good soundtracks, new and old!
My favorite actors!
I have the last episode left!
I'm turning it on... The fucker! The first one! I think something is wrong... I include it on different sites, different translations - damn, it's still the first one! I think maybe that's what Lynch was up to!!
But it turns out!!!!
When I first started watching, I didn't notice, and instead of the first episode, I got 18!!! 😂😂 so I started watching from the "conclusion" 😂😂😂 the impression certainly did not spoil about the series! But the series is complicated, and such a fail! 😂
What's with that, people wrote here, "they say I watch one picture for the soundtrack for 5 minutes, I think that's the way it should be, but in fact the player is frozen)) But I surpassed everyone 😂😂
Many people do this, peeping at some interesting ideas in their dreams. But no one uses their "raw" dreams as a ready-made scenario. No one but Lynch.
In general, he himself says this in the series: "we are in a dream, but who will we be filmed for?"
In the last episode, the director confessed to us that his dreams are becoming more and more confused, and he himself does not understand what year it is now: 25 years ago, when he was working on the first seasons, or it is happening now, in 2017.
I watched the 9-episode version, and then I had to scroll through it periodically, I have no idea who completely mastered all 18 episodes
Keep the barbs to yourself...
As I understand it, Laura, who was saved by Cooper, woke up, then what happened to Coop himself?
Starting the year with an introduction to such a cult series is a high-level pleasure, I regret that I was a year and a half late, I would like to discuss everything without fail after the end.
The very first episode of the third episode-the giant in the white wigwam says to Cooper, "Remember, Richard and Linda, 430." Well, the last episode, after having sex with Diane, Coop wakes up, reads a note on the bedside table that Linda does not recognize him, and that his name is Richard. It's powerful.
This can be interpreted as the whole world of Twin Peaks was Richard's "dream" in the real world, the theme of dreams and who is actually sleeping is pedaled more than once in the season. But the ending, where "Kerry" hears Laura's mom calling her, of course, casts doubt on the theory that the Giant initially warned Coop about Bob's possible trap in case of the latter's "death." That is, everything after having sex with Diane at the hotel is probably Bob's trap. Well, as a theory, perhaps it was written about above.
I watched season 3 2 years ago, but I remember that in the series there was a phrase that fear and love open the gates to another world. Sex + scared Diana opened these gates, so Cooper ended up in a completely different hotel, he has a different car, etc. If this is a trap, then it's more likely Judy's tricks, because it's not clear what she's capable of at all.
https://twitter.com/horrormuseum/status/1177654985863024640
The earth is full of rumors....
https://www.instagram.com/p/B3DdOqFllAJ/
Source: Medusa
Thanks, Lynch!
It would seem, what does Ukraine have to do with it?)
The author seemed to have knocked out 18 hours for the season, but did not think through how to score them. In the old seasons, there were a lot of different characters and parallel mini-plots, but here there is practically no such thing: the killers are merged in passing in a random shootout, vanpanchman appears for five minutes a couple of episodes before the finale, and then suddenly kills the main antagonist, Dougie almost the entire series serves as a source of comedic situations.
In general, it seems that Tyler Durden worked as Lynch's editor and inserted Tarantino films and random comedies into Jarmusch's film. The mixture is too explosive for me.
And now I'm sitting, writing, lying
There was a 4-hour video: youtu.be/7AYnF5hOhuM
And its translation in four parts:
1 - https://dtf.ru/cinema/138560-perevod-chetyrehchasovogo-razbora-tvin-piks-pervaya-chast
2 - https://dtf.ru/cinema/164994-chto-skazala-lora-palmer-perevod-chetyrehchasovogo-razbora-tvin-piks-vtoraya-chast
3 - https://dtf.ru/cinema/174424-kto-takaya-dzhudi-perevod-chetyrehchasovogo-razbora-tvin-piks-tretya-chast
4 - https://dtf.ru/cinema/202134-poslednyaya-chast-chetyrehchasovogo-perevoda-razbora-tvin-piks
An entertaining read. The first two parts are required reading.
Briefly about the idea of the series from the analysis: Lynch wanted to balance the senseless cruelty of television, clear chewed denouements and emotionless deaths, meaningfulness and empathy. Laura's death starts a chain of engagement, through her and the investigation we learn about her connections with the residents of the city, their lives, empathize and realize how just one death can affect the whole city. FBI agents are the audience's intuition. Bob is a thirst for simple meaningless entertainment, a thirst to know the answer. The audience ruins the concept, seeking to find out who the killer is, which leads to the withering of the series. At the end of the second season, Lynch shows this: Bob took over the Viewer.
The entire third season of the season is dedicated to sorting out what this led to. Laura whispers in Cooper's ear, "My dad killed me," a moment that ruined the series.
And this is not the most interesting part of the analysis. The articles also contain a huge amount of information about the internal structure of the series, its characters, and individual actions. That's really interesting to read.
In May 2021, D. Lynch will begin filming a series under the working title Wisteria.
Of course, there are zero details. But there are rumors that it could be a sequel to Twin Peaks. Both because the name is "working" and because Sabrina Sutherland, who previously worked with him on the new season of Twin Peaks, will help him.
And also before the crown in 2019, the actors hinted a little bit in the fall that something would happen soon.
As a fan, I want to believe that the rights showtime bought from abc have already ended and Lynch took matters into his own hands for the first time and Netflix only supported his idea and we will get something as amazing and strange as Twin Peaks or maybe Twin Peaks itself.
And maybe it will be a spin-off from Twin Peaks that will tell a new story in the same universe.
The series is amazing, you can't turn it on as a background, every frame is valuable, despite all the chaos captured in it.
I watched episode 1 from episode 1, the unusual thing started with a woman with a log.. And off she went
I'll review it sometime..
Anyway. From the very beginning (from the first season), it became clear that everyone in the city called Twin Peaks was fucked up. In season 3, this feeling grows. The fucked-up manner of the characters' behavior accompanied by a stringy musical accompaniment. And season 3 put an end to all this confusion - it's really someone's dream. Which started with a nuclear explosion that unleashed evil, and went on a rampage for three seasons. And Laura's dream, apparently.
It's like that)
In general, the series is a bomb! And everything Lynch does is a mixture of genius and wildness, it's more than just a movie. This is the turn of all thoughts, consciousness, this is depth and this is meaning!
10,000 lynchings out of 10!!! ❤️❤️❤️
I've watched at least forty TV shows, some were more beautifully shot, some were more realistic, some were easier, some were more difficult. but my black soul chose Twin Peaks. it lacks realism {= vitality, like when you feel the emotions of the characters on yourself, or you sit and say "fuck, dude, life"}, but it wasn't created for that either. It was incredibly atmospheric, beautiful, strange, and interesting. It gives me goosebumps. they mixed everything they could, but for me personally it didn't take away its beauty.
a game of reality and illusion. a big plus for such a special oddity — everything was strange in the parallel world / wigwam, and therefore the parallelism of this parallel world was felt especially clearly.
This is the first time I've seen a series in which every frame is important. Every frame needs to be thought through and correlated.
it's a pity that the series seems unfinished — not even in the sense that you don't understand what happened to Dale and Laura in the end, but in the fact that the lines of the other characters — Shelly, Bobby, Becky, Audrey, Nadine, and so on - remained unfinished. most likely, all these characters were inserted here just to dilute the confusion and seriousness of the main line with something lighter, + because the viewer demanded it, but it's still a little sad. well, even though the lines of Norma/Edda and Jenny were completed, and thanks
for that, there are a lot of cons, misunderstandings, but my black soul still chose Twin Peaks as her favorite series, because it was the coolest, strangest, most interesting, complex, serious and atmospheric mess in the world. Thank you.
I would add one version from myself, but I don't have anything at all) and still don't consider time wasted.
PS: when Cooper asked at the end of the episode "what year is it now?" this Madame non-Laura Palmer suddenly realized that she had driven the hell where and ended up in an unfamiliar city. She was brought here by a dude who clearly went there, pretending to be an FSB agent, and at that moment he was carefully examining the asphalt! Yes, this moment can lead to a scream! 🤣
Okay, bye for the mix, it was interesting!
Well, at least what remains after watching. How does the same episode look different in 2017 and 2021? Magic * screams*
To be honest, I finished the second season with the thought "the main thing is that Cooper is fine as a result, I'll get over the rest," but after watching the films and the third season, I realize that my heart hurts a lot for Laura.
One girl who can't be saved despite all the efforts – even those that tear apart the space-time continuum; and one man who is forever stuck in an endless attempt to do it. At least that's my interpretation of the ending.
If my interpretation is close to the idea, then... The saddest thing about it is that he was stuck there completely consciously, because before Diane and Cooper "crossed over" (I do not know what it was called in the Russian translation, because I watched it in English; there it is "to cross"), she asked him a couple of times if he was ready. to this, and whether it is worth doing it at all.
He knew that he was going somewhere where all his efforts might just lead him to a dead end, and after the infinity sign shown by Philip Jeffries (with the very point that clearly marked Cooper himself in this loop), he probably even knew that he would get stuck there. I think he decided to do this both out of simultaneous pity for Laura and her tragic circumstances, and... his own failure in the past, which led to Caroline's death.
Well, fuck. An eternity of suffering for both of them, it turns out, when they wanted their happiness and comfort the most.
It remains to read the books. I know that the latest Dossier adds some additional information (and probably 30 more new questions), so maybe my understanding will be fundamentally wrong) But it was cool.
The claims about special effects are generally ridiculous, they are very primitive here on purpose, Lynch never aspired to this, he shoots on his own wave and does not look at trends.
I like that the ending wasn't presented on a platter with all the explanations, and everyone can decide for themselves what happened.
And I like watching the season over and over again to find details that I didn't notice.
Both the plot and the actors, looking at the young Cooper is just a separate pleasure, seeing the young and incredibly beautiful female characters of the series is different, and it becomes a little sad that time does not spare anyone, even the perfect Kyle. I'm sure I'll be reviewing the first two seasons, but not the third, there's no sincerity or kindness in it, and I definitely don't want to see so much violence and pain again.
Hmm.
Results:
May all fans of this series, namely Lynch's work, forgive me, but this season was just hell for me.
There was no question of a simple understanding - this was Twin Peaks, but the atmosphere and plot were repulsive in themselves. It wasn't the names, the events, or anything else that I couldn't figure out. The only constant love was Cooper. Of course, this season has provided answers to many questions, and in some places the old story really slipped through, but the gloom of modernity has not given that unique atmosphere.
Twin Peaks for me is a story about Laura Palmer and nothing else.
P.S. The magic of the series touched the time of the episode, despite my complete disinterest, they flew by like lightning.
In the series itself, I was impressed by the ent and the atmosphere. from episode 1 of season 1 to episode 9 of season 2 + movie...they leave only positive and pleasant impressions. All the rest of the expansion and thinking that was just not needed. As an attempt to appear smarter, deeper than it really is... imho.
The series is great in every way. In general, I don't even want to watch anything after it, other series seem so empty and insignificant. Even if there will never be a sale, then I am quite ready to perceive Twin Peaks not as a familiar narrative, but as an experience — and I really liked it. Our dreams don't have climaxes or denouements either, but they're still nice to watch.
And a few words about Laura Dern. I haven't digested this actress since Star Wars. If it had been someone else, I would have enjoyed my affair with Diana more. But again, Cooper's feelings came out of nowhere, just like they did with Annie. Audrey was freaking out that he hadn't fallen in love with anyone since Caroline's time, he climbed into the wigwam for one, then got out to the other.
And while watching, I was sure that Caroline was playing Lucy Lawless— a one-on-one actress. It would have been better if the Warrior Queen had been called to the role of Diana — at least their appearance rhymed and there would have been a prerequisite for Cooper's sympathy.
I think I'll start with a reboot. I liked the third season of the series more than the first two - it is brighter, more colorful, more confusing, keeps the intrigue stronger, much more complicated. I liked the songs so much at the end - it turned out to be a full-fledged performance, complementing the series. And I was constantly thinking: I would like to learn the X-Files, how to make a reboot successful. There are many TV shows that have a restart, but it was the X-files that came to my mind, yes.
Regarding the ending, I have read a lot of interpretations here, all interesting and have a place to be. But I agree with the theory that Laura Palmer is a girl who cannot be saved in any universe. For me, everything became obvious after the phrase: "We live in a dream," and I did not believe in a happy ending for at least someone initially. The ending gave me goosebumps - great emotions for such a series.
In general, despite all the "but"described above, I can't help but admire the series as a whole. I understand why he became legendary. You may like it or not, but it is, without a doubt, a phenomenon in the world of serials. Brand.
I can only say bravo to the creators.
if so, then maybe something will be released. Whether it's a book, a TV series, a movie, or something else.
Watch the rest of the series and read the news in half an hour
RIP, David.
Peace be upon your ashes, Maestro
As for all this crazy abstraction of Lynch, I think that there is no deep meaning in it, it is possible that there is some kind of logic, the idea of the director, but first of all it's all a mystery where there is some other world aka a black lodge, spirits, anomalies, visions and so on. All this is peppered with a bunch of scenes shot as if under heavy drugs, it's useless to look for meaning in them, firstly because no one will give them answers, secondly because there is no sense in it, that's the beauty of abstractionism, you can show complete nonsense and that's it, the author's movie is ready, of course, without such scenes, Twin Peaks would not be Twin Peaks, they greatly complement the atmosphere and set the mood for the series.
The third season turned out to be weaker than the first and second, due to an even more vague plot, of course it was interesting to watch, the cast drags, and horror was added specifically, in the second season there were also scary moments for those years, but the third season is a full-fledged horror, the delusional scene also became many times more. There are a lot of long-drawn-out moments like character stares or scenes like the one where the janitor sweeps the floor for 2 minutes or the girl is about to leave Gordon's room for 5 minutes, it's clear that banter, but it doesn't stop being sloppy.,
And of course, the final touch to the atmosphere is made by the music of Angelo Badalamenti, who has preserved many of his skeletons.
PS. If anyone wants to experience the same (imho 100 times more) emotions from watching, I advise you to watch "The Leftovers". In addition, you can find many similarities.
No series has ever captured my attention so much.
We all live in a dream.
Damn good coffee.
This series, this town, these characters and their unpredictable actions have become family.…
After watching it, there are a lot of thoughts, and even fewer answers. But that was Lynch, the director who appears once in a hundred years. It is unlikely that we will see someone like this in the near future. Maybe never.
And I don't think we'll ever know how it ended. Maybe one of the commentators was right or was close to it.
But perhaps everyone will choose for themselves their own ending the way they want to see it. But most likely, everyone is right in one conclusion - no one will ever save Laura Palmer..
But it was all mind-blowing and mind-blowing! Although sometimes it was not clear at all.
We will miss the warm and lamp-like atmosphere of Twin Peaks and its outstanding residents...
Hooray, comrades:) Twin Peaks is one of the best TV shows I've ever seen! Finally, the whole picture has more or less developed)) after watching 3 seasons, the 92nd movie and the cut movie, plus the 2-hour reviews on YouTube, in general, wow!
I dream of visiting that very coffee shop to taste damn delicious coffee and fresh cherry pie! :) well, give Bob a pumpkin! Where is my green glove))🧤
Lynch and Frost have created a very ambiguous, non-trivial, magically mystical atmosphere, which is incredibly interesting to watch and immerse yourself in this process, there is no need to guess and understand anything, just watch, then you will get real pleasure)
Thanks to the analysis on YouTube, which helped us understand the full picture of the world of Lynch and Frost.