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Duration: 55 min.
Released: 26.04.201826.04.2018 07:00
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2 season
s02e02
s01e08 - Jezebels
s01e09 - The Bridge
s01e10 - Night
s02e01 - June
s02e02 - Unwomen
s02e03 - Baggage
s02e04 - Other Women
s02e05 - Seeds
s02e06 - First Blood

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miyako_yuu
miyako_yuu
26 Apr 2018, 03:37 #
Под конец не выдержала и разрыдалась. Две невероятно напряжённые серии просмотрены на одном дыхании. Самое жуткое, что прошлое в сериале не так уж сильно и отличается от нашего настоящего.
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Jurtys
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11 Oct 2020, 04:45 #
@miyako_yuu: One thing is not clear to me, there are about half a hundred women (in the colony) and about a dozen guards with electric shocks, can't they conspire at night and kill them collectively?!
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30 Mar 2021, 05:04 #
It's like saying: there are hundreds of prisoners and dozens of guards in prison, can't they stab them at night?
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angelson
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27 Aug 2021, 21:10 #
@Jutys: I thought about it at first, but then I saw armed guards on horseback, so everything is under supervision there
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KrotTavi
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10 Aug 2023, 00:59 #
There are practically no healthy and strong people able to fight there anymore. This is the last step to nowhere. Before entering the colonies, these women went through the circles of Gilead hell. And the overseers are healthy, in gas masks, apparently they also change with some frequency
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naynay
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26 Apr 2018, 20:06 #
So we found out what kind of mysterious colonies they were (for some reason it seemed earlier that this was something tropical, as in the days of the British Empire). What are they mining there? Coal?
But in this Gulag, strangely enough, women have a little more freedom. It will be interesting to see the interaction between Emily and Janine.
The editorial office is creepy. I hope June won't have to sit there for long.
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Renero
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27 Apr 2018, 02:38 #
@naynay: for some reason, it seems to me that they are not mining anything, but simply raking polluted soil. the only question is why this is done by such brute force, and not using machines, they don't even spare horses. well, yes, I'm silent about biotechnology, where did IVF go at all (it's a stretch to say that this is not according to the religious canon, but in the situation that they have, they could have forgotten about the canon)
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id24463355
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27 Apr 2018, 13:38 #
@Renero: either in the book or in the TV series, there was a scene in flashbacks, the essence of which was that IVF does not work
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Renero
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27 Apr 2018, 14:40 #
@id24463355: so, in the book) I've been reading it for a long time, but somehow I don't remember it in the series.
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Renero
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27 Apr 2018, 14:43 #
@id24463355: and yes, you can turn a blind eye to IVF - this is an assumption, implied almost by itself, so that the dystopia works. In this series, more questions are raised by the lack of digging equipment in the colonies and the use of horses and at least not so "guilty" women to supervise non-women
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ta_petite_amie
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29 Apr 2018, 00:07 #
@Renero: yes, even according to the series - in the first season, when June gives birth, the problem is not only that it is difficult to get pregnant, but also a bunch of miscarriages + are born with a mutation. That is, the main difficulty there was not only in conception. And for that matter, religious fanatics don't really care about conception - because no matter how much Fred tried, and it didn't come out - and the servant dude tried it once and that's it. The series explicitly says that men are not tested for the ability to have children, because all the troubles are from women.
Then I will be able to confuse, I have read the book for a long time, but for example in the book Gianni gave birth to an unhealthy child, although "technically" she was ideally suited for the role of a mother. And the eco religious sect considered as one of the causes of mutations, they say such children will not be 100% evil
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yoggik
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09 May 2018, 18:50 #
@Renero: and there seemed to be a version that a child born with IVF does not have a soul. That supposedly God did not create this soul.
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tvoya_gannusya
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31 Aug 2022, 23:41 #
@naynay: Yes, there is more freedom. But what's the point of her in this place? They are sent to the colony to certain death. Women work on highly toxic lands, inhale their fumes. As a result of which - open wounds, ulcers, hair loss, nails, teeth. And what's going on inside the body. Well, such a "freedom", you know.
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JardimFramboesa
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26 Apr 2018, 20:21 #
A difficult series ((( the series was very affected, I can't hold back my tears even
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sickspiny
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26 Apr 2018, 20:49 #
I can't figure out where the colonies are. Do such mines really exist in the United States? And how far are they from Gilead (Massachusetts)?

It will be strange if the series turns to the line of flashbacks and Emily's current life. Are we really going to see the fall of the Gilead regime and the release of convicts from the colonies in the series?
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daysgonebye
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26 Apr 2018, 23:27 #
@sickspiny: I'm not sure about the mines, but there are places where natural stone is mined, which is used for sharpening surgical instruments, for example. And what they mine resembles limestone, it seems to me
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29 Apr 2018, 15:39 #
@daysgonebye: These are not mines, they are just removing contaminated soil. therefore, bags with the biohazard sign are shown.
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sickspiny
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01 May 2018, 01:14 #
@delete-delete: and why is the soil infected? Is there any explanation for this?
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Sharlottta
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01 May 2018, 19:02 #
@sickspiny: in my opinion, in the first season something was said that there was a war, possibly including the use of some chemical. or nuclear weapons, or just because of the war, some nuclear power plant was bombed
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30 Mar 2021, 05:09 #
There, at the very beginning, slides were shown and auntie broadcast: god gave us clean land, and we fucked it up, built factories, came up with all sorts of pesticides and gmos. And like God got angry and punished everyone with infertility. Now they are cleansing the earth so that God will forgive and have mercy on them. So it's not mining, it's cleaning up nuclear waste.
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Frank_Iero
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30 Jan 01:31 #
It's very creepy to read your comment in 2024…
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ViktoryMartini
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26 Apr 2018, 23:18 #
I cried in the last scene. After all, how deeply this series was filmed is very realistic, you get into this whole atmosphere of hopelessness to the depths of your soul
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хаддистка
хаддистка
27 Apr 2018, 02:13 #
Very strongly. I cried for 2 episodes. It's so creepy, it chills to the bone
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RetroGirl
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27 Apr 2018, 09:12 #
An amazing series. How people survived, I remembered the concentration camps and the Gulag... About mines, IVF and the fact that fertile women are forced to work like this, is there probably in the book? It's a mystery to me why everyone is turned on children, even strangers, why there are no strict boarding schools where ready-made Gilead fanatics would be raised.
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krokodilova
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27 Apr 2018, 19:38 #
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Darula
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06 May 2018, 01:19 #
@RetroGirl: and there are boarding schools, probably, GG's daughter, Hannah, is being held somewhere.
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dmitrievnanastya
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13 Jun 2018, 15:37 #
She lives with a foster family.
All the children were given to foster families, those who could not give birth themselves.
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shiroisasori
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27 Apr 2018, 21:10 #
Cruelly. Surely not every wife had a maid? Some were supposed to be fertile in theory?
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ta_petite_amie
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29 Apr 2018, 00:09 #
@shiroisasori: the system is built that everyone has, there is a queue for them
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Darula
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06 May 2018, 01:10 #
@shiroisasori: well, they hint to us that it's not about wives, that husbands are infertile (June didn't get pregnant from Fred, but from the kid - nate).
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dmitrievnanastya
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13 Jun 2018, 15:39 #
Not all of them, there were Eco-couples who lived an ordinary life, gave birth and raised children.
Maids were "provided" only to those who occupy a high position in society. Under the government in short)
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shiroisasori
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27 Apr 2018, 21:14 #
A double.
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JaneLain
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27 Apr 2018, 21:48 #
Wives also have no choice, they cannot forbid the rape of maids, they are the same victims of the regime. Disappointed with Emily's act, men should be poisoned, not each other.
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delete-delete
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29 Apr 2018, 15:41 #
@JaneLain: Whoa, whoa. even in a book that is considered a hymn to feminism, there were no such one-sided stuffing. maybe then Luke needs to be killed, otherwise he escaped, abandoned his wife and daughter. and Sylvia, Emily's wife, so be it, let's leave her alive, she's not a man.
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Juli18
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30 Apr 2018, 03:38 #
@JaneLain: firstly, this particular woman is a fanatic, which is noticeable from her words.
Secondly, if these women had not supported the regime, but had sided with the maids, it could have been overthrown.
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Allех
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02 May 2018, 23:02 #
@Juli18: not a fact. They would have been sent to the same mines in bulk. Or they arranged a demonstrative punishment of 1-2 .
As with the maids, they take everyone out in formation and imitate the execution so that everyone feels the difference between life (any) and its complete absence. Then the instigator and the first who followed her example are tortured, mutilated, and can give birth and serve as an illustration of the consequences of dissent. We have been shown enough examples when maids are disabled or even crazy on a chain but pregnant. So the wives had a lot to think about.
That's how the modes work. 2000 years of patriarchy and all the power of the state machine against a bunch of women who could theoretically do something there. As it happened in Iran, Iraq - as soon as the fundamentalists came to power, the wives put on the burqa, those who did not put on those can no longer be remembered and found. Those who were able to escape, those who did not have time to resign themselves.
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Darula
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06 May 2018, 01:11 #
@JaneLain: Fred's wife (I don't remember his name) was very supportive of him in flashbacks! She literally helped set this regime herself.
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ksenia2020
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06 Mar 2023, 01:35 #
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tweedlecat
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28 Apr 2018, 00:09 #
Yes, show me the Gilead map already.
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delete-delete
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30 Apr 2018, 17:56 #
@cat_pavel: So these are the States. or specifically the borders and what is where you are interested in?
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sickspiny
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01 May 2018, 01:22 #
@cat_pavel: Washington DC, Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine. In other states (except Alaska and Hawaii) There is a civil war going on in the universe of the novel/series.
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tweedlecat
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02 May 2018, 21:14 #
@sickspiny: thank you! So it turns out that the rest of the states are in chaos, or do they represent the United States?
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eugvishnevskaya
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15 Jul 2018, 05:20 #
@cat_pavel: In the first episode of season 1, June said that there were 2 stars left on the US flag
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Нинья
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28 Apr 2018, 01:02 #
What I like is that they don't make saints out of June and the other protagonists.
That June is sometimes openly hysterical, often breaks down and very clearly manipulates Nick. (I'm not sure there's any special point in rooting for peirings in this series, because anyway they'll just put glasses in our mouths and make us chew, but I almost feel sorry for Nick at some moments, because as soon as June gets to freedom, she'll stop needing him, and he's unlikely to need her Lee)
and Emily's act, and the attitude towards the Wife of all the other convicts (I'm sure no Wife lasted even a couple of days) is a very vivid illustration of how to pit two groups of people, one disenfranchised, the other with a couple of imaginary privileges.
Although Emily, it seems to me, finally made up her mind at the moment when her Wife began to make speeches about her miserable love. Well, this is religious fanaticism...
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080585
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04 May 2018, 03:56 #
@Ninya: It is unclear why wives should not be changed before entering the camp. It's clear that they won't survive a week in their green coats, but that would be a chance. Even just labor should be appreciated, but otherwise they are stupidly given to waste so that hard workers can blow off steam.
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Allех
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04 May 2018, 09:15 #
@080585: You can't change your mind and your tongue.
"embed" is not the right word. what difference does it make in which robe and how long will the free manpower die?
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Нинья
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04 May 2018, 15:41 #
@080585: and why are they needed?
Judging by the sores, the women there survive from a couple of weeks to a month anyway. The Wife who got there is obviously scrapped, no one needs it, and it generally looks more like a substitute for the death penalty for wives, to be honest, than an attempt to cash in on free labor. If it were otherwise, the overseer there would not have screamed that everyone would be punished, but punished. "If you go to hard labor, certain death" should sound even scarier for wives, because they have more privileges, as well as opportunities to harm.
How much will a sick, tired, demotivated woman who came to die anyway dig up in a month? Clearly not enough to hold on to.
But a Wife torn apart by convicts is a good help in ensuring that the women in red and the women in green do not accidentally unite.
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Allех
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05 May 2018, 02:52 #
@Ninya: and what's the point of uniting the dying? Will they vomit blood on tasers like Sailors?
The undeniable fact is that this is a one-way link. Therefore, there is no point in changing clothes or introducing them either. Unless there's a Dr. Mengele studying crowd psychology. There are studies that the Gulag was also unprofitable and did not bring a tangible contribution to industrialization. That is, you are absolutely right about everything.
/ the wife torn to pieces by convicts/ - this incident will not go beyond the concentration camp. Therefore, from an ideological point of view, its efficiency is 0.
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rouse_black
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08 May 2018, 16:45 #
@doruma: but the girls let off steam. they will show off less to the overseers. they have found a way out of aggression and will be more obedient horses for a while. so there is a profit, although it's not about ideology, that's for sure.
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29 Apr 2018, 15:48 #
Unfortunately, this series is somewhat flat compared to the rest, including the first of the second season, which is no longer being filmed according to the book. thank you for saving me, kind people, but no, you wanted me to hide, but I don't want to hide, I'm going to steal Hannah, but no, you're right, I can't steal Hannah, well, let's at least have sex, oh you soulless brute, you didn't even know that I was brought to the place of slaughter Well, okay, I'll leave a memorial of personal belongings here. and it seems like all the messages are obviously being read, but.

I liked Emily's arch.
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lickneonlights
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29 Apr 2018, 16:43 #
@delete-delete: Yes, the series was a bit boring compared to the previous ones. It is clear that the colonies were uncovered, they showed how June reveals freedom in a new way, all that, but the narrative turned out to be boring.
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Zyac
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29 Apr 2018, 19:35 #
Why are fertile (including) women sent to work and get sick at the site of a recent environmental disaster, if everyone seems to cherish every woman in red as the hope of humanity?
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tweedlecat
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29 Apr 2018, 20:49 #
@Zyac: because this is a pseudo-theocracy, in fact, no one gives a fuck and people just enjoy power. Don't look for logic in totalitarianism.
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Zyac
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12 May 2018, 14:20 #
@cat_pavel: maybe so, well, then let's say not for the sake of humanity, but for the sake of those in power to have children
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Falka_23
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03 Jun 2018, 21:50 #
@Zyac: Yes, these children have never lied to them.
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Zyac
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10 Jun 2018, 00:58 #
@Falka_23: Serena got fucked here)
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Dorea_Potter
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01 May 2018, 18:24 #
@Zyac: because specifically these fertile women rebel too much. They are of little use as women in labor, only harm
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Allех
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02 May 2018, 23:09 #
@Dorea_Potter: They could have pulled out her tongue so she wouldn't talk. Castration was successful. The eyeless one gave birth. A madwoman on a chain is wearing out her term and such a one will be able to. Another thing is that you can't rape her without pills. And stimulants are probably prohibited.
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eugvishnevskaya
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15 Jul 2018, 05:24 #
@Zyac: It was said in the first season that if a fertile woman could not give birth to three families, she would be sent to the scrap yard. Or those who disobeyed the law too much. Sometimes it is easier for them to be sent to work in the mines than to be re-educated.
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vremya_grustit
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30 Apr 2018, 23:18 #
of course, Emily's act was disappointing, that woman was obviously brainwashed, and what could she do, would she be able to go against the regime? She is, like the maids, a woman. It is clearly shown that even a wife who stumbles ends up in a colony.
She is also a victim of the system.
but at the same time, the reaction is understandable, after such a life as the maids lived, everyone will become embittered. but it would be better if it was directed at the root of evil.
I wonder if there are such colonies for men?
There were tears in my eyes on the last scene. and throughout the series, there is growing anger and resentment for LGBT characters.
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Jasmine7500
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01 May 2018, 20:33 #
@vremya_grustit:
do you still think that in this series it makes sense to judge from a position of humanity and humanity?
I'm begging you. They also clearly show that there is nothing in people except the desire to survive. And the opportunity to take revenge is just the limit of dreams. Emily acted like anyone else in her situation.
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vremya_grustit
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01 May 2018, 21:25 #
@Jasmine7500: I'm not talking about humanity, but about rational thinking. Emily is an intelligent woman, so her action surprised me. obviously, revenge, whatever it is, in such a situation can give at least some meager sense of freedom.
in this case, revenge, roughly speaking, is directed towards "their own". if they had soaked their wife in other conditions, not in hard labor, but at the same time her husband, there would have been no speech, it was almost an uprising, but here, as if revenge did not give anything special, banal acting out on the weak. but when Emily drove over their heads on a typewriter, it was cool :D
about the desire to survive, I agree in fact, but I note that the series also shows that people tend to show solidarity even in such conditions - the same stones that the girl was never beaten with last season, although everyone understood that the consequences will be so-so.
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Allех
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02 May 2018, 23:13 #
@vremya_grustit: it is doubtful that they realized exactly what the consequences would be. The rebellion is suppressed in its infancy. Fertility is not a panacea. It's a good thing that everyone didn't have one arm chopped off. In theory, this does not prevent giving birth.
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Jasmine7500
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01 May 2018, 19:29 #
What a charm :) Mitochondrial DNA - do you know what it is?
It's the MOTHER'S DNA! All our mitochondrial DNA is transmitted to us from the mother because the mitochondria of the sperm are in the tail, which disappears at conception :)
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krokodilova
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02 May 2018, 02:15 #
When June throws a tantrum for being brought to this particular place, she looks like a real fool.The country is overflowing with violence, people are being killed anywhere. They could all have been hanged recently. And when, at the cost of incredible risk, she is rescued and brought to a trusted place, she becomes hysterical as if a man bought the wrong chicken at the market.
And at the same time, it occurs to her to have sex vigorously there.
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Midge
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02 May 2018, 02:55 #
@Taksi: individual response to severe stress.
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Yanvarenok
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03 May 2018, 02:55 #
@krokodilova: in my opinion, we should not forget that she is also pregnant
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alex_red
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02 May 2018, 19:45 #
Тем временем продлили.
https://deadline.com/2018/05/hulu-surpasses-20-million-subscribers-renews-handmaids-tale-third-season-1202380859/
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alx
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03 May 2018, 03:15 #
Despite all the words, I think Emily acted quite nobly, putting the new girl out of her misery. Perhaps even too noble: if she wanted to punish her, she could just leave her alive to plow along with the others and slowly decompose alive. It's much scarier than such a quick death.
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080585
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04 May 2018, 04:03 #
@alx: No, there's no sense of nobility here — she clearly sent her at the end to die alone. It was a banal revenge for no clear reason. Although I agree with you, the new girl wouldn't have lasted long anyway.
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Allех
Allех
04 May 2018, 09:26 #
@080585: / banal revenge is unclear why / - it is clear why.
to feel satisfaction in an accessible volume. She has never had and will never have another such opportunity.

Otherwise, it would be more powerful to observe the daily torments of one's ideological enemy, who personifies all tormentors. However, such a stream of whining mixed with religious nonsense, no amount of nobility and an unquenchable thirst for peace can endure for more than a couple of hours.
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rogueFOX
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04 May 2018, 17:21 #
June didn't like this episode. although she can be understood, but in general, of all the characters, only Nick was always liked, well, Moira
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dalisha
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04 May 2018, 22:09 #
Killing hundreds of adults and crying and pleading and suffering for the sake of giving birth to units of other people... What could be scarier than people's stupidity?
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alx
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05 May 2018, 01:10 #
@dalisha: what is the point of hundreds of adults if they will die anyway in 30-50 years and there will be no one to replace them?
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06 May 2018, 01:18 #
@dalisha: этих взрослых надо кормить, а ничего не растёт, пшеницу у Мексики выменивать приходится! Так что проще их расстрелять и нарожать своё элитное чистокровное потомство, только вот беда, потомство не рожается!
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Darula
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06 May 2018, 01:19 #
«Я делаю это ради тебя и нашего будущего ребёнка!», следующий кадр - «На ключи!» И как же достало, что секс Джун постоянно под какую-то эпическую музыку показывают.

И почему они провинившихся мужиков не используют для работы в колониях?
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Allех
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06 May 2018, 07:24 #
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vk323557
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18 Sep 2019, 18:18 #
@Allех: так организуйтесь уже, наконец! Способные вы наши.
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Allех
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19 Sep 2019, 21:53 #
@vk323557: вы ассоциировали себя с гг сериала и решили отомстить ?
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20 Sep 2019, 12:05 #
@Allех: а чем я вам отомстила, собственно? Вы заявили, что поскольку вы мужчина, то больше способны к самоорганизации и «возмущению пространства», чтобы эта загадочная фраза ни значила. Ну я и жду смиренно. Донесите вести о реальном положении в нашем Гилеаде, вы же мужчина!
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Allех
Allех
20 Sep 2019, 20:42 #
@vk323557: такого я не утверждал, это вы так восприняли .
Мне извиниться за вашу интерпретацию ?
Извините, я не виноват что вы ощущаете себя в Гала_Аде и нуждаетесь в спасении, мне искренне жаль.
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wizjer
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06 May 2018, 14:18 #
@Darula: В романе мужиков загребают в армию, ЕМНИП
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Horhe
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06 May 2018, 22:56 #
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delete-delete
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07 May 2018, 10:38 #
@Horhe: вот уж свечи меньше всего озадачивают. у них война была, беспорядки, перебои с электричеством, скорее всего. так что, меня скорее наличие этого электричества смутило гораздо больше.
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AsyaGeller
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11 May 2018, 15:00 #
Подбешивает June своими истериками, вроде не первый день, а ведёт себя неадекватно. Понимаю ее стресс и усталость, но ведь и Нику тяжело вывезти ее, когда под каждым кустом охрана, которая ее ищет.
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youarebymyside
youarebymyside
20 May 2018, 02:01 #
Долго смотрела на Марису Томэй и думала: "Какое знакомое лицо! Я точно её знаю!". Ооочень долго доходило. :D Она крутая. И, боже, такая красивая. Такой образ создали. Рада, что серию сделали об Эмили. "Welcome to the fight. It sucks."
Не уверена, что Эмили правильно сделала, убив Mistress, но ладно.

О другом: странно, если эта серия не приурочена к Орландо или чему-то такому. С другой стороны, мне вспомнилась ситуация, когда в Штатах президентом был Обама, и к ЛГБТ относились хорошо. А когда на пост президента пришёл Трамп, с сайта Белого дома (вроде) в первые же 40 минут (не прошло и ЧАСУ!) убрали раздел об ЛГБТ и были так добры (сволочи), что решили не отменять законы о том, что однополые браки легальны в США. И вот я не ревела всё это время, когда показывали изнасилования и т.д., был только момент один, когда я сильно плакала, встреча Люки и Мойры, и тут Эмили говорят, что документ, подтверждающих их с женой брак, больше. не. действителен. Вы не семья. Вы нелегальны. Вы не летите вместе. Ревела.
Не буду говорить за других, но я, наверное, настолько привыкла к мизогинии, как женщина, что просто отмахиваюсь. Злюсь, но отмахиваюсь. Но когда я, как лгбт и просто человек, вижу настолько открытую гомофобию, желание ненавидеть человека за то, кем он является, не делая ничего при этом плохого, не лезущего в чужие жизни, желание УБИТЬ человека за то, что он любит человека своего же пола и хочет быть таким же счастливым, как и гетеросексуалы.... Это злит и пугает меня до ужаса. Я не понимаю, как это вообще возможно. И эта радужная открытка на стене с надписью PRIDE и фотография однополной пары... Очень больно. Прекрасная серия.

Почувствовала, правда, дикую фрустрацию, когда Ник дал Джун ключи и пистолет, "отпустил", но хорошо, что она одумалась. Он должен быть голосом разума в этой дикой ситуации, где она — загнанный в ловушку, отчаявшийся зверь. :(
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youarebymyside
youarebymyside
20 May 2018, 02:04 #
Кстати! Разговор про
"Что случилось с мужем после?"
"Я не знаю. Вероятно, его повысили."
очень хорошо показывает положение дел. Нам не нужен феминизм, ага.
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DavidKomae
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01 Oct 2018, 17:03 #
@youarebymyside: мне наоборот, очень понравился момент, когда Ник отпустил Джун и дал ей право решать самой, что делать. Если бы он просто сказал "нет" - было бы ужасно, получилось бы, что она до сих пор не личность со свободой выбора. Он дал ей решить, понимая, что она поступит рационально и правильно, так она и поступила.
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KrotTavi
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10 Aug 2023, 01:16 #
@DavidKomae, поддерживаю, тоже расценила этот поступок Ника именно так. Ему не всё равно, но он не заставляет её подчиниться
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Mirra_
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26 May 2018, 04:23 #
@youarebymyside: Сестра ✋🏻 посылаю тебе ЛГБТ-луч 🏳️‍🌈 ты озвучила мои мысли об этой серии :)
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Podhom57
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25 Jun 2018, 20:40 #
а когда у всех власть имущих появятся дети, хоть половина из которых, очевидно, будет иметь способность размножаться, дальше они что делать будут?
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Allех
Allех
26 Jun 2018, 08:29 #
@Podhom57: Дочерей выдавать замуж за собратьев старперов командоров и их сыновей. Скрещиваться короче. Ради выведения арийской расы.
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cyanide
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14 Jul 2018, 23:44 #
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vk323557
vk323557
18 Sep 2019, 18:22 #
@cyanide: а всё равно продолжает молиться опиуму для народа
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Maka
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07 Aug 2018, 20:51 #
мда... если s01e02 еще вселяла некоторый оптимизм по поводу качества сезона, то эта серия его полностью разрушает.
Событий ровно 2 с половиной. Двухминутные, совершенно излишние, созерцания эмоций героев и локаций. ГГ неадекватна. А твист с ядом в концлагере никак не тянет на гоблинский "вот это поворот", а скорее вызывает фейспалм.
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KrotTavi
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10 Aug 2023, 01:17 #
@Maka, s01e02 это вторая серия первого сезона 🙈
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nyan-cat
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19 Aug 2018, 17:38 #
Сезон вытянут только флешбеками.
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AnastasiiaR
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17 Feb 2019, 16:58 #
Расплакалась на серии встречи Эмили и Джанин. Сильный был момент и вообще люблю как играет Алексис Бледел.
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Meliksedova
Meliksedova
10 Jun 2019, 23:36 #
Вот охеревшая , пацан рискует ради неё , спасает а она выделывается . Только я не болею за главную героиню ?)))
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Diana926107
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14 Jun 2019, 20:02 #
В начале серии заметила, что на мешках был знак полиметаллических руд
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Белявочка
Белявочка
16 Sep 2019, 03:28 #
мне одной жена эмили напомнила лорелай, мать рори, которую играла бледел в девочках гилмор?
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raven_earl
raven_earl
26 Oct 2019, 16:16 #
Филлер 🤦🏻‍♂️ зачем нужно было убивать эту женщину? Не проще вымещать на ней злость каждый день? А так всё удовольствие себе забрала - подругам ничего не оставила.
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fb990109
fb990109
06 Jan 2020, 13:49 #
Ужасный выбор главной героини Джун. Совершено не сексуальная актриса, но даже во время стресса постоянно думающая о сексе... серия - до слёз...
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Dolorous
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10 Jun 2023, 03:43 #
а почему она должна быть сексуальной? по-вашему памела андерсон хорошо смотрелась бы в этой роли?)) она обычная женщина каких миллионы, в этом и суть
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RodTidwell
RodTidwell
24 Jan 2020, 05:49 #
Жаль Марису Томей завезли всего на один раз. Преклоняюсь перед талантом этой женщины.
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Elik33
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07 May 2020, 08:48 #
Спасибо за друзей)
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Elik33
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07 May 2020, 08:49 #
@Elik33:
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fatalemperor
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15 Jan 2021, 02:18 #
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karina_istomina
karina_istomina
08 May 2023, 21:12 #
а, а ты у нас определяешь сколько процентов должно быть "лгбт повесточки"?
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aydan815
aydan815
23 Jan 2021, 05:29 #
Флэшбэки с Эмили шикарны
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OksTkr
OksTkr
29 May 2021, 20:19 #
У Джун случилась истерика от безысходности и стреса, но она сделала правильный выбор и осталась. По-моему, поступок сильного человека. Как-то услышала фразу, уже не помню где: "иногда ничего не делать сложнее всего".
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EmilD
EmilD
29 May 2021, 21:34 #
"Этот документ больше не признается. Вы не женаты" это конечно пиздец...
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Britayajopka
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30 Aug 2022, 16:45 #
@EmilD: - Это запрещено.
- Что это значит?
- Запрещено законом.
- Каким?
- Законным.

Согласна с Вами. Звездец, просто звездец. Вынесло вдвойне, как с браком, так и с законом. Всё так просто, печать, не печать, обновление каких-то там законных законов ежесекундно...
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Капитан_Сосулька
Капитан_Сосулька
02 Oct 2022, 15:52 #
@Britayajopka: кстати в оригинале интересно с языковой точки зрения типа "запрещено законом. - каким? - Законом (THE law)". Типа пришёл Гилеад, принёс свой Закон.
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queenmarishka
queenmarishka
29 Jul 2021, 00:23 #
джун в этрй серии просто тупица
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S0prano
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19 Sep 2021, 00:38 #
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scottyrey
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21 Jan 2022, 13:42 #
А всех ли людей под одну гребенку собрали? Что произошло, например, с актерами, музыкантами и прочими знаменитостями. Понимаю, что кто-то успел свалить, но не думаю, что у всех вышло.
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aylaaylaaylaayla
aylaaylaaylaayla
04 May 2022, 21:51 #
A very necessary series…
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aylaaylaaylaayla
aylaaylaaylaayla
04 May 2022, 21:51 #
Очень нудная серия…
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aleksiys777
aleksiys777
13 Oct 2022, 11:22 #
Какой жестокий сериал
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ffmishka
ffmishka
29 Oct 2022, 19:07 #
Получается, если бы Эмили сказала, что это не её яйцеклетка, а эмбрион, её бы отпустили? Или сразу отправили чистить землю?
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new_sha2015
new_sha2015
18 Jul 2023, 03:57 #
@ffmishka: сразу бы отправили в колонии. Она в первом сезоне говорит, что да, таких как я обычно не делают служанками, но выяснилось, что у меня ценные яйцеклетки, не стали разбрасываться
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Dolorous
Dolorous
10 Jun 2023, 03:28 #
разочарована поступком эмили.. не потому что мне жаль ту барыню, а потому что Эмили как и другие главные героини сериала должны быть лучше.. это то что их отличает от нелюдей..
что-то мне подсказывает что она еще пожалеет об этом, или во во всяком случае будет возвращаться к этому в мыслях
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Капитан_Сосулька
Капитан_Сосулька
10 Jun 2023, 07:42 #
@Dolorous: ну кстати почему они должны быть лучше? Служанок много, можно показывать их разными, в том числе и такими вот, чтоб не делать сериал черно-белым с точки зрения морали
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Croheart
Croheart
26 Jan 22:47 #
Всех не фертильных отправляли на кухни или в колонии, так? То есть и всех пожилых, и старушек? 🥺
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