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The Alienist — s01e10 — Castle in the Sky

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Duration: 50 min.
Released: 26.03.201826.03.2018 19:00
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1 season
s01e10
s01e06 - Ascension
s01e07 - Many Sainted Men
s01e08 - Psychopathia Sexualis
s01e09 - Requiem
s01e10 - Castle in the Sky
s02e01 - Ex Ore Infantium
s02e02 - Something Wicked
s02e03 - Labyrinth
s02e04 - Gilded Cage

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Viltis
Viltis
27 Mar 2018, 09:50 #
A great ending! The boy was rescued, the red-haired schmuck was killed, the old policeman did not understand anything, the skeletons were taken out of the closets and buried.
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egeliis
egeliis
27 Mar 2018, 16:01 #
Thanks to the screenwriters for partially changing the book and not killing the boy. But on the other hand, I don't understand why it was necessary to weave a love line into the last episode, which, in principle, was not needed. I hope that the second season will be based on the second book by Caleb Carr.
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Igrok1
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28 Mar 2018, 00:22 #
@egeliis: Lol. The love line has been going on since the beginning of the series.
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BlueberryNights
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29 Mar 2018, 23:53 #
@egeliis: I was worried about Joseph's life more than my own.
I hadn't read the book, but I almost believed that he had already been killed or would be killed during the series.
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crazynun
crazynun
27 Apr 2018, 21:24 #
It's no longer the love line that surprises me, but how quickly John switched from guilt for the boy's disappearance to declarations of love in a conversation with Sarah. Like, I've suffered my time, so here's my love tirade and kisses
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miscellaneous
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21 Jan 23:30 #
@crazynun: everything makes sense to me: the story with the boy made it clear to him that you don't have to wait to do something important, so he took it and did it.
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Body_Speaks
Body_Speaks
27 Mar 2018, 20:36 #
A great end to the season! Daniel Bruhl has surpassed himself in this role.
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rogueFOX
rogueFOX
04 Aug 2022, 20:06 #
@Body_Speaks: I don't know why, but I don't like the main character in this series. Mb is because of the actor, it is repulsive. Or maybe it's because of a nasty character who is not covered by charisma (like House, for example)
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ezhevika88
ezhevika88
27 Mar 2018, 23:45 #
What a cool season, the Alienist is definitely one of my favorites!

I liked the love line, my God, how cute they are!

The whole series kept me in suspense...
I just didn't like that they didn't give me any motives. What the hell was that redhead needed there?.. In short, I hope for the second season))
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ajcrvr
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28 Mar 2018, 00:07 #
@ezhevika88: And it's like a limited series. Although I looked at it - they have something to shoot the second season for. But the third one is no longer there, alas, if only with a different cast.
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ksenyaniх
ksenyaniх
28 Mar 2018, 00:07 #
A gorgeous finale to a gorgeous series! I hope it will be extended for a second season (:
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beekeeper_s
beekeeper_s
28 Mar 2018, 00:19 #
The last episode of the wonderful series. And how to live on now? The killer is dead, and I can't even imagine what should happen in the second season. I hope it will be no worse than the first one. I was amused by the moment when Laszlo hoped to find some morphological abnormalities in the killer's brain. I'm looking forward to the sequel.
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chrispi268
chrispi268
04 Aug 2019, 02:21 #
@beekeeper_s: a copycat, for example, as an option
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Zseni
Zseni
28 Mar 2018, 01:17 #
As I said, the series will still surprise us. A great ending and the finale of the season, it's a pity there wasn't some n*here who would hint at the 2nd season)
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Impending_Sky
Impending_Sky
28 Mar 2018, 01:24 #
The last episode was disappointing (The situation was escalated, escalated, and as a result, not a particularly exciting finale and 5 minutes for the killer, who was caught all season (The case when the process is more interesting than the result.
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twidade_lucks
twidade_lucks
28 Mar 2018, 01:40 #
I expected, like the previous commentator, probably a little more from the denouement. But the series itself is pretty good. Especially, of course, the actors are pleased, the whole cast can be praised for a very long time, everyone is perfect for their roles. I will look forward to the next season, this atmosphere is very hooked and watching any new cases should be no less interesting. I don't know what others think about the love line, but as for me, it is very sweet and was not formed from scratch
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lady_kana
lady_kana
28 Mar 2018, 02:26 #
The scoundrels are punished and that's the most important thing!
Sarah and John are so cute, and these shy kisses from John are so gentle)))
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nonlondon
nonlondon
28 Mar 2018, 11:43 #
I will be the third one who waited for something straight after episode 9, but everything went somehow simple. I'm glad the red-haired asshole got shot.
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Impending_Sky
Impending_Sky
28 Mar 2018, 14:17 #
And by the way, was it my imagination, or was the nervous tic a stupid effect? Damn, it was more interesting to listen to about the maniac than to see it live.
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Mirra_
Mirra_
12 May 2018, 07:14 #
Yes, with what a crooked effect like lotions that are embedded in blet's video jokes
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lina_naumenko
lina_naumenko
28 Mar 2018, 18:12 #
The series itself is really good. There are no words even. I love the game of beautiful Dakota and Luke Evans. As for the finale, personally, it caused me some incomprehensible emotions more than feelings of satisfaction, or something. I was very worried about the boy Joseph, because I was not sure that our heroes would save him. The love thread between Sarah and John was burning (very quietly, but how =)) throughout the first season, and I really enjoyed it. =) It's good that everything is over with the main maniac. Phew, it's a relief (an end to these terrible atrocities). But somehow they managed it too quickly, they wanted more tension and chasing each other, there was not enough action, this is exactly what is called a "crumpled ending". A bit of a feeling of emptiness is present. And I have a lot of questions left. They found the name of the maniac, investigated, dug up, went / asked in episodes 8-9 about a certain former military man, found out who he was (but still who was he at all?), Laszlo abruptly guessed where he was (but in what way, huh?), honestly, it's unclear. The scene at the very end with Lazlo's father, also for what? He said goodbye to him, and? That's just a bunch of questions. There is only one version that specifically knew the maniac's face, so it's Connor and Thomas Burns (he somehow looked suspiciously at Roosevelt then in the last minutes). And because Connor is gone, but Burns is definitely involved in this somehow. There's clearly something wrong here. Maybe in season 2 everything will fall into place. :)
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NoIdea
NoIdea
18 Apr 2018, 03:36 #
@lina_naumenko: Well, in the scene in which Sarah guesses where to look for the maniac, the emphasis is on a heart-shaped box and a map of the city's sewers, perhaps hinting that this reservoir is like the heart of the city, but there is always a chance that this is a far-fetched guess. So, you can only speculate about calculating the location of the maniac, or I just don't guess.

Well, speaking of Laszlo's visit to his father, it was probably done to show us the development of the character, in the sense that he is no longer chasing the ghosts of his childhood and is not burdened by them.

At least, that's all it seemed to me.
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apnea
apnea
28 Mar 2018, 19:39 #
The maniac was not impressed at all. What was in his head? No one found out! there was a feeling of understatement in general. Well, at least the previous 9 episodes were interesting.
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Suicide_Chickens
Suicide_Chickens
28 Mar 2018, 23:44 #
The whole part about catching a maniac is a complete cliche and bad taste. An unarmed disabled person in the company of an equally unarmed friend who does not possess athletic qualities, they go personally to catch an extremely dangerous and violent psychopath in some, excuse me, fucking, without informing anyone about it. A brilliant idea, bravo! Of course, the psychopath hits back at them, and if this had happened in real life, our brave heroes, whose motto, apparently, is "Dementia and Courage," would already be dead along with the unfortunate boy. But no, the criminal only gently knocks the back of their heads against the wall and does not even bind them, having become infected with universal stupidity. And all this is happening to tie a red-haired asshole hanging around here to escalate the situation. And when that doesn't work either, Sarah appears "god out of the car" with a revolver (by the way, the only one who somehow prepared for a risky situation is respect). Well, what about the killer? And at this time he shows miracles of vitality and manages to climb out onto the roof with a bullet in his back to die in a beautiful pose. Spanish shame, by God, after nine excellent atmospheric episodes, to turn the finale into such a carnival of enchanting stupidity.
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KsuCannella
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29 Mar 2018, 08:42 #
@Zesha: Your comment is incomparable!)
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KYV
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31 Mar 2018, 05:58 #
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maredentro
maredentro
02 Nov 2018, 01:51 #
@Suicide_Chickens: You made my evening!
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maria_krukova
maria_krukova
29 Mar 2018, 00:27 #
John stole Sarah's carriage, that's the twist))
a good end to the season, I'm waiting for the sequel)
I hope they won't disappoint!)
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linmaryy
linmaryy
29 Mar 2018, 15:21 #
Damn, as a result, there is very little maniac, and his tic is kind of unintelligible, according to the ideas there should generally be a grimace all the time!
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КрошкаЕнот
КрошкаЕнот
03 Apr 2018, 18:03 #
I was also waiting for the kind of maniac. So much has been said and discussed that he is already a straight freak, even his own mother hated him. I thought they didn't show it on purpose- they save up for special effects. I was expecting a pasadobble of facial muscles, but I got a mouse romp.
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Джальс
Джальс
29 Mar 2018, 17:57 #
This is the best series of this year. I want to watch it all the time, wait for new episodes and worry about the relationship of the main characters. The atmosphere of the series allows you to feel the feelings of the characters. It's a very good series. There were unpredictable moments. You don't know what might happen next. The intrigue. That's what's in this series. The cast is perfectly matched. I'm waiting for the sequel. I know there is a book. And after watching the series, I wanted to read it.
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rodriguezzz
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30 Mar 2018, 00:55 #
The final was leaked :(
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Winter_Song
Winter_Song
30 Mar 2018, 03:10 #
With a cat in a bag [as strange as it may sound] it was... strongly.
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SunnyAnny
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08 Dec 2019, 23:18 #
@Winter_Song: You're clear, Dexter
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lasforry
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30 Mar 2018, 16:39 #
Laszlo: Jafed!
Sarah: John!
John: Joseph!
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L0ner
L0ner
31 Mar 2018, 04:42 #
A great atmsofer series, a scary serial killer of children in the dark Victorian era. Quite interesting characters, the most interesting for me from the very beginning was Kreiser-a brilliant alienist with a dark past and a difficult childhood played by an excellent actor Daniel Bruhl, it would seem, what's not to like here. As everything turned out in the end. The finale (at least), in my opinion, should have been the peak, built up throughout the season, of tension, in fact turned out to be completely boring and meaningless, leaving no desire to see a sequel. The subject of the study of the psychology of the human mind suggested a more deep dive into the head, not only of the killer, but also of the main characters, and this seemed to be done, but in a completely, I beg your pardon for the French, "fuck off" manner in a couple of dialogues. The romantic line between Sarah and John was somehow completely out of place, and sometimes, to be honest, it made you roll your eyes in mute irritation.I am deeply disenchanted, which is very sad.If there is a second season, then most likely I will no longer be among its viewers.
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ExoPrincipal
ExoPrincipal
31 Mar 2018, 16:28 #
Total: the entire first season was a promo for the second
there are M-maniacs, there is a G-team to catch them
why maniacs do what they do "you will find out in the next episode"

It would be better to make a great ending with the full opening of all lines and not shoot anymore. It would be more memorable than that. And it all started so well!
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Мася
Мася
31 Mar 2018, 16:45 #
Opera music can catch up with the atmosphere. All the performance I thought that something was about to happen, but no, and then the events began to overlap and the killer eventually turned out to be, I would say, unexpected.
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lis_inside
lis_inside
01 Apr 2018, 13:31 #
A complete disappointment! The finale ruined everything. Kapets!
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КрошкаЕнот
КрошкаЕнот
03 Apr 2018, 18:11 #
I don't agree about the caste. Is this bug-eyed Dakota a beauty? Siriosli? Is Luke Evans a romantic weakling?) Yes, there are mountains of muscles under his cap and the look of a "stallion" who is so eager to "ride"))) And Lazlo... Well, nothing. I didn't feel anything from him, no chemistry... What is his game, what is his character...
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Aggata
Aggata
10 Apr 2018, 15:34 #
It's a great series. Give me more episodes
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vlandus
vlandus
10 Apr 2018, 17:06 #
"The feeling of a blurred end" ©
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zula22
zula22
27 Apr 2018, 19:04 #
@vlandus: am I a pervert or does it sound weird anyway
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GreenBattery
GreenBattery
11 Apr 2018, 06:22 #
Such a finale. I support the commentators above: I was waiting for something enchanting until the last minute, but alas. I will be waiting for the second season, the atmosphere of the series is simply amazing)
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SlyEngineer
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24 Apr 2018, 11:37 #
@GreenBattery: as I understand it, the series was closed
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GreenBattery
GreenBattery
09 May 2018, 17:31 #
Yes, I see that the status of the series has been changed. It's a pity(
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olyafeminazi
olyafeminazi
20 Apr 2018, 05:51 #
It feels like Laszlo is talking about human nature because he believes that he has overcome his dark side. But I doubt it. How did he stick a scalpel into a corpse? I wanted to understand what it was like. It's not just a desire to get into the skin of a murderer, there's something else here. I suspect that the past has crippled the alienist after all, but he cannot admit this to himself.

The murderer was shown little, and the fat boy, Laszlo's pupil, was completely forgotten. I wonder what he became out of hatred for his parents.
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zula22
zula22
27 Apr 2018, 19:04 #
I was struggling with myself...time has passed, but I'll write anyway....the ending was leaked..yes, even the last 2 episodes...I personally have a lot of questions and comments left...
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RomaN_S
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28 Apr 2018, 13:00 #
A great series, keeps you in suspense until the end. Good acting... It is a pity that there will be no continuation of the story
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Neare
Neare
30 Apr 2018, 03:13 #
I really liked how they recreated the atmosphere of the era, which was already mentioned by previous commentators, as well as Daniel Bruhl and Dakota Fanning.
But the main thing that the series has achieved is that it is interested in the original source. I went and read a book and I advise everyone.
It is expected, but there both the investigation and the motivations are described in much more detail, the accents are placed a little differently. Laszlo sometimes apologizes and looks like a more pleasant person as a result, there are fewer love lines, and there are answers to many questions, such as why two unarmed athletes are far from athletes, but also very smart people go to catch a dangerous criminal.
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Mmoloko
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09 May 2018, 13:18 #
I'm surprised, I didn't expect anything good. I thought there would be a stamp on the stamp and actually some characters and how they promote them are. But it was done very coolly. The series turned out to be very dynamic, intriguing and unexpected. Awesome And I am extremely amazed by Luke Evans, because we usually see him as a macho man, but here he was both a rag and a sensitive lover and intimidated. Great!
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Mirra_
Mirra_
12 May 2018, 07:18 #
I was most sorry for the cat that Herod the maniac dragged in a bag! It's a terrible scene.
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Edward_Blake
Edward_Blake
14 May 2018, 01:12 #
Alas, the series turned out to be about nothing. Gray and soulless, although it would seem that everything was there - the actors, the entourage, and the plot. But everything doesn't work with each other, the characters don't cling, the plot doesn't cling. In short, a very very gray average guy who can be watched purely for the sake of the actors, no more
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muhozhrun
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30 May 2018, 08:51 #
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id120899507
id120899507
08 Jul 2018, 21:40 #
@muhozhrun: You misunderstood this, the Jewish girl had a child with her husband. Which she directly stated in one of the episodes
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Miss_eugenie
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03 Jun 2018, 18:51 #
Strangely, the status of the series has changed, although nothing seems to have been heard about the sequel. And the question of whether it is necessary remains open.
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egeliis
egeliis
07 Jun 2018, 12:04 #
There is another book with the same characters - "Angel of Darkness". So I think it's worth it.
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Stanok
Stanok
04 Jun 2018, 22:20 #
A terrible ending to a mediocre series. Have many people seen the "game" of the actors here? Strange. Personally, no one believed me. The surroundings are excellent and a couple of successful finds. That's the whole result. That there won't be a second season is great, 10 more episodes and the final merged in the end, I can't stand it.
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alcrowex
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22 Jun 2018, 06:27 #
TNT had low ratings in America, so the second season hasn't even been ordered yet. But Netflix has the rights to an international show, and if they do well, there will be a sequel. There are only three books so far, and the first book is the first season. It remains only to wait.
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LAwDT
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14 Jul 2018, 03:29 #
By the end, everyone who was waiting for answers was severely beaten off.
I still don't understand why there was that letter for the mother of the murdered child, and why did the killer (or someone else) assemble the entire team in the restaurant on behalf of Laszlo in the first episodes? They thought he was watching them, but that was never mentioned again. Or did I miss something?
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LL345
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10 Aug 2018, 06:17 #
It's a great series, exciting and hard to break away from. Even if the ending turned out to be not so impressive and bright, it does not affect the overall impression of the story.
I like the atmosphere. You even look at it and think: and this is how New York turned into the one that we know
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ilyinaanastasya
ilyinaanastasya
17 Aug 2018, 10:06 #
Extended!
TNT has ordered the filming of a sequel to the series "The Alienist" called "The Angel of Darkness" based on the novel of the same name by Caleb Carr.

Luke Evans, Daniel Bruhl and Dakota Fanning will return to their roles.
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yahargul
yahargul
19 Aug 2018, 02:44 #
@ilyinaanastasya: Thanks for the great news!
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north_winds
north_winds
17 Aug 2018, 12:34 #
That feeling when you don't give a damn about the main characters at all. The main thing is that the cute curly-haired detectives are doing well, and Marcus and Esther are with:
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SteF_KD
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22 Sep 2018, 03:38 #
In my opinion, the ending is terrible, it's so interesting to solve this mystery series after series, and in the end it's so easy to finish...
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vernal1s
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27 Sep 2018, 18:08 #
The feeling when a maniac, who has been chased all season, dies before he has time to answer a single question: With
I can understand how Laszlo was furious that little is clear about the motives, despite the fact that quite a lot of facts about his biography and psychological injuries have been collected.
But in general, the end came out really messy, crumpled. At least thank you for completing it logically.
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Апчхи
Апчхи
10 Oct 2018, 03:29 #
What could be dumber than this series?
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paraplan_store
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31 Oct 2018, 18:04 #
Will there be a second season?
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Мася
Мася
01 Nov 2018, 09:10 #
@paraplan_store: Yes, but based on another book by the same writer.
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paraplan_store
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11 Nov 2018, 15:57 #
@Masya: thank you!
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maredentro
maredentro
02 Nov 2018, 02:06 #
Fucking shame! Starting with Bruhl in the title role, ending with a completely disastrous finale. Someone tell Bruhl that he doesn't need to act in a movie anymore. He wanders from movie to movie, from series to series with the same dull, frozen muzzle. For 10 episodes, she did not express any emotions at all, well, maybe except for the episode when Laszlo finally tells how his father injured his arm.

The line with the psychopath was disappointing. A red-haired, useless, crazy gibbon. I admit, I was much more charmed by the young man with the silver smile. That was a fine example of genuine evil. I don't know what they were looking for in Beecham's brain. Not all mental disorders are reflected in the structure of the brain. There are no other options, he just moved on the basis of the cruelty of his mother and society, which rejected him. And his father's pictures served as props for the murders.
Politics was still woven into it for some reason until the very end. After the geek with the silver smile was killed, it made no sense for politicians to interfere with the police, i.e. I never saw the motives of the scene in the opera.
In general, the series is a three-star. I hope there won't be a second season.
And Peter Sarsgaard would have done much better with the role of Bruhl. The types are similar, but at least the latter has a lively facial expression.
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jerr_r
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20 Nov 2018, 19:56 #
The series should have been called The Climber
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DrLobotrog
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26 Nov 2018, 01:53 #
So, to summarize. Some things remain unclear:
1. Why, after finding out that Vanberden was not behind the murders, did the former commissioner and the red-haired asshole still try to stop Laszlo? They even sent a murderer to him, who almost killed them in a carriage and broke into his house, also clearly not for friendly purposes. There may be a flimsy excuse that in this way they just wanted to prevent him from catching the killer, and not the police. But this is a so-so version, considering that both already have little relation to the police.
2. Why Laszlo, following selfish goals to find out what drives maniacs, goes on a suicide mission to catch a dangerous and armed killer, without weapons and without backup. At the same time risking the boy's life. Such behavior can not be called anything other than frankly stupid.
3. Why in the 19th century, when everyone hid their queerness as best they could (recall the conversation in the Vanberden house about the "stain" of family honor), there were so many visitors to brothels for homosexual pedophiles? And no one is trying to hide. Brothels are not hidden in the crowd, with an entrance only for club members, but quite public. Here I do not find any explanation at all, except for the widespread toleration that is now in fashion. It seems that homosexuals in the USA got their rights back in the 19th century :)
4. The maniac was never really shown. Did you want to save money on special facial effects?
5. I still did not understand the special sexual meaning of going to the opera. Why did they suddenly decide that the maniac would kill at this time and in no other way? Did they see his plan for the day somewhere?
6. I won't even talk about the wonderful guess about the reservoir.
7. The series is called the Alienist, and as a result, all the work was done by two brothers-acrobats, a woman and an artist. And GG only became hysterical and depressed, and only in the end, by some miracle, he guessed the place.

And that's what we're getting at. The finale is just to fuck off in order to catch the killer after all, but how - absolutely fuck. Otherwise, it was interesting to watch, the episodes flew by unnoticed. 4 stars
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cappp
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09 Jan 2019, 01:23 #
It was only after 10 episodes that I realized that Joseph was the brother of little Sheldon Cooper. I kept thinking where did I see that face
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cappp
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09 Jan 2019, 11:44 #
@cappp: Oh, I'm sorry. I just Googled it now, these are different actors. But they are so similar)
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Nomber
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25 Jan 2019, 19:28 #
the ending is primitive to the point of banality, expectations about the end of this series were higher
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Villariba
Villariba
28 Jan 2019, 21:52 #
Rabinovich and I went to work once, but only his mother took the pistol from the two of us,
but in general the series is pleasant and if there is a sequel, I will continue to watch with pleasure.
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DrLobotrog
DrLobotrog
28 Jan 2019, 22:08 #
@Villariba: К счастью, не будет.
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Villariba
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28 Jan 2019, 22:32 #
@DrLobotrog: жаль. было бы интересно дальше наблюдать за этой троицей
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DrLobotrog
DrLobotrog
30 Jan 2019, 10:10 #
@Villariba: Троицей? Братья-акробаты, сделавшие половину работы, забыты и вычеркнуты из истории? :)
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Villariba
Villariba
30 Jan 2019, 16:53 #
@DrLobotrog: ну они типа бонуса по акции. будут с героями по умолчанию.
(но если бы только про них запилили что-нибудь и про их расследования дальше - тоже посмотрела бы с удовольствием)
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Winter_Song
Winter_Song
29 Jan 2019, 16:46 #
@Villariba: Будет второй сезон по второй книге Калеба Карра.
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DrLobotrog
DrLobotrog
30 Jan 2019, 10:11 #
@Winter_Song: С другими актерами, надеюсь? ГГ просто уныл до безобразия... :(
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Winter_Song
Winter_Song
30 Jan 2019, 16:53 #
@DrLobotrog: Нет, с теми же.
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sveetylove
sveetylove
21 May 2019, 02:19 #
Боже, дугласу Смиту 33 года ?? (Высокому брату)

Я думала лет 19, не больше)
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Murmyashik
Murmyashik
29 May 2019, 00:58 #
Народ, расходимся:
The Alienist Season 2 Release Date. TNT announced at today's upfront presentation that the second season of The Alienist will begin filming next week with a planned release date for 2020. (15.05.2019)
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chrispi268
chrispi268
04 Aug 2019, 04:07 #
так приятно наблюдать за нежностью джона и сары, нету животности дикой, а лишь теплота
обалденный финал. атмосферно и эмоционально выдержанный, расставивший большую часть несправедливостей по полочкам.
приятно слышать, что будет продолжение и, что самое важное, со старыми актёрами
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hidereality
hidereality
09 Dec 2019, 15:37 #
Главный герой вообще никакой. Я не поняла кто он за 10 серий. В чем его особенность? Кроме через чур выраженной аристократичности и, очевидно, денег. Была пара кадров где он лизал кровь и типа всё понимал...но нам не раскрывают его личности вообще, ни что с его рукой, ни почему он может «читать» психов. Сцена где он втыкает в труп нож мне не понятна, что это нам говорит о персонаже? Вот если бы нам раскрыли его в дальнейшем с другой стороны, например его собственные склонности к насилию или показали бы тяжелое детство о котором он постоянно говорит не вдаваясь в детали, то может и прониклась бы. А так он для меня вообще проходимец, дело он сам не раскрыл, только тупил, не мог даже построить взаимоотношения с персонажами. Преданности его слуг я тоже не поняла, никакой предыстории, кроме из преступного прошлого, но он им по сути дал только работу, не понимаю...думаю актёр плохо подобран и плюс ко всему он плохо прописан в сценарии. Посмотрела что это по циклу романов снято, остаётся надеяться что в дальнейшем он подраскроется. Может кто-то пояснит, может я чего-то не заметила?
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bobchinsky
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03 May 2020, 14:29 #
@hidereality: я читала первую книгу, давно правда, но не понимаю, в чём ваша претензия. Не каждый персонаж, связанный с психологией должен быть эксцентричным Шерлоком. По мне история персонажа сильно раскрывает профессиональные проблемы психологов. То что, чтобы понять своего "клиента", тем более преступника, нужно максимально эмпатировать ему, но при этом не превращаться в него. Это большой стресс и постоянный страх, что можешь потерять себя. Также пресловутая поговорка о том, что психологи помогают всем, кроме себя и своих отношений с людьми :)
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WarmMess
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24 Jan 2020, 01:03 #
Как то финал сезона разочаровал. Вроде и все хорошо, но хотелось больше напряженности и какого то полного раскрытия всех героев
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Bazetskii
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23 Feb 2020, 11:48 #
Первые полсериала: неплохо, атмосферно, красиво, но
а) капец затянули ветку с Ван Бергенами, фактическое расследование по настоящему убийцы скомкали до пары серий, ну риалли
б) невнятная мотивация бывшего шефа полиции продолжать мешать алиенисту расследовать, хотя он уже отстал от влиятельных семей и ни на что не претендовал,
в) швед: выстрелил в карету, убил кучера, забил на то, что ласло и джон живы, а рыжий усач потом ещё припёрся и убил Мэри - вот это всё было зачем вообще
г) линия ласло и мэри - драма ради драмы, полсериала никакого развития, а потом поцелуй - и тут же её драматично убивают, как неожиданно, как ужасно
д) мотивация убийцы: да, круто, что такая длинная нить, откуда он и как пришёл к этому, но логична только половина информации. С фига ему менять почерк, почему ритуал перестал включать глаза, учитывая, что вода всегда была нужна, почему дети, почему почему почему бесконечные почему, которым словно не придумали объяснений и решили, пусть будет загадка
е) но это всё цветочки, потому что самая большая проблема этого реально стильного и потенциально хорошего сериала в главном герое. Картонка, бравый сын папы Карло, это максимальный фейл. Первые несколько серий он был ровным и не выразительным, создатели решили, что "хм кажется он манекен" и решили внезапно форсить тему с его рукой и ничем не объяснёнными вспышками ярости, пусть уж ведёт себя как мразь, это жи эмоции! Но нет, актёр не тянет эмоции, всё, что он делает, плоско, не естественно, не живо, он только раздражает своей пластиковостью, даже когда орёт. Всё, что связано с гг, кажется притянутым за уши. Он не умеет играть ни глазами, ни всем остальным, причём касательно расследования он абсолютно бесполезный кусок сценария, и только в последней серии он там что-то потрогал в квартире Бичема, всё типа понял и определил, а где его таланты были весь сезон - непонятно, 9 серий до этого он только эксплуатировал своих пациентов, вёл себя как мразь и неумело страдал.
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Bazetskii
Bazetskii
23 Feb 2020, 11:48 #
Это был бы хороший сериал, но очень сильно не дожали, в первую очередь - с главным героем.
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schism
schism
22 May 2020, 19:41 #
2 сезон начнётся 26 июля, трейлер: https://youtu.be/O0Uti4coWOU
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DarsyDarsy
DarsyDarsy
27 May 2020, 00:07 #
Только myshows почему-то поставил dead🤔
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schism
schism
27 May 2020, 12:43 #
потому что на tvmaze у сериала не обновили статус
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Horizon
Horizon
27 May 2020, 22:39 #
@schism: Это адаптация серии книг, для каждой книги будет новый сериал https://myshows.me/view/67197/
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schism
schism
27 May 2020, 23:50 #
странное решение множить сущности.
игра престолов, пространство, ходячие мертвецы и т.д. тоже адаптации серии книг/комиксов, но они были в рамках одного сериала
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DarsyDarsy
DarsyDarsy
27 May 2020, 00:10 #
@DarsyDarsy А нет, отдельным сериалом будет👏🏼
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vk922554
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18 Aug 2020, 21:02 #
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Estelle69
Estelle69
02 Dec 2021, 19:31 #
@vk922554: не совсем понимаю почему вас минусили потому что вопросы по делу. Особенно про Джона и его "ситуацию" в борделе. Такое ощущение что про этот кусок сценария просто забыли. Ну как и про многое другое что описывали выше. очень жаль, халтурно как-то вышло все.
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irrsinn
irrsinn
06 Jun 2023, 19:15 #
Сначала было интересно смотреть, но от второй половины сериала какое-то очень скомканное впечатление. Зачем были некоторые сцены, к чему они вели? Например, зачем убийца собрал героев вместе? Почему он пропустил один праздник? Ван Бергена убили, а родителям, которые так о нем пеклись, внезапно стало все равно, и это вообще не проблема, что он мертв? Как Ласло понял местонахождение убийцы и почему они туда поехали без подмоги?..

Как будто многие сцены были лишние, а многого не хватило наоборот. Мне было интересно о жертвах, может быть, увидеть какие-то сцены их разговоров с убийцей, что заставило их ему доверять. А то те сцены, которые показали, какой-то бред, доверия его поведение и странные реплики не вызывают от слова совсем. Начали показывать Салли и потом резко забили, а мне интересно, какую он роль мог бы сыграть, он же много знал про убийцу.

Главный герой адски раздражал своими бесконечными размышлениями о природе зла и отсутствием реальных действий. Всю работу делали ребята-евреи и Сара с Джоном.
Из плюсов очень атмосферно и красиво снято, но жаль, что сценарий не докрутили и столько пробелов.
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Msconfig
Msconfig
09 Jul 2023, 20:08 #
Если б Сара сама себя не защитила, Ласло так и сидел бы там, смотря как рыжий её пристрелит. Нет бы сзади подойти и прибить рыжего. Ласло просто разочарование. Считаю, что его надо понизить до второстепенного персонажа, а Сару сделать гг
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opheliozz
opheliozz
13 Jan 20:34 #
словила себя на том, что в финальной серии померещились переклички с Шерлоком Холмсом от Гая Ричи. та секунда с башней в темноте с того же ракурса, вся эта сценка с оперой, когда в оригинале Мориарти завёл расследование Холмса слегка не в тот эпицентр событий, и тут они показаны в моменте на том же либретто и так же как Мориарти выжидающих.
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nens8_8y
nens8_8y
30 Mar 16:33 #
John wonders why he didn't help Joseph and take him home. I ask myself the same thing already in Episode 5! I went and went around him, gave him everything for 3 kopecks for ice cream, but I didn't take it from the brothel, with his condition and position((
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