s01e10 — We Are Gone

@MadMetHead: It's simple. People went through the roof against the background of famine and disease.

@MadMetHead: Tuunbak didn't die stupidly. He had already been injured, and a rocket launcher hit him, and swallowed a one-legged man wrapped in forks, which could cause internal bleeding and weaken him even more. And also the poison that Goodsir + chain took. In general, there are many factors.

@MadMetHead: the ending in the book is so different and logical that after watching the last episode, you want to ask "WHAT WAS THAT"

@Neuner: I have the same question. It's like they were shooting from another book.

@MadMetHead: "and then I got poisoned by a cookie." It's stupid to think that it was the chain that killed him, taking into account all the previous injuries and poisoning. She was just the last straw.

@MadMetHead: Tuunbak didn't die because of the chain, but because he ate Hickey's rotten soul.

@Neuner: What is the name of the book?

@Seimex: "terror" by D. simmons

He ate sailors whose bodies were literally soaked in lead. At the end, he had severe lead poisoning, which slowly killed him as well as the team members.

@partlycloudy: That he died too quickly. I didn't even have time to digest it. It turns out that this "chupacabra" is not so terrible.

@Seimex: Tuunbak

@Seimex: It's written that because of eating sailors. And he's eaten a lot and in large quantities lately.

@Dvoreckii: The captain is quite an example of such a noble man, his assistant, who lost his leg. They remained human until the end.
Is it true that for you to be strong is to sing the national anthem of England to the death and praise Queen Victoria?

@Darula: Not for me, but for critics of the documentary evidence of the events that took place. Their main argument is that the sailors of the Royal Navy could not do this, and all those who think otherwise are barbarians. And these are the words of far from the last and respected people of Victorian society. But it is strange now to adhere to their position and believe that out of respect for the dead, "who served their Homeland well," it is necessary to hide all the baseness of man and tell heroic tales.

"In weighing the probabilities and improbabilities of the "last resource," the foremost question is — not the nature of the extremity; but, the nature of the men. We submit that the memory of the lost Arctic voyagers is placed, by reason and experience, high above the taint of this so easily-allowed connection; and that the noble conduct and example of such men, and of their own great leader himself, under similar endurances, belies it, and outweighs by the weight of the whole universe the chatter of a gross handful of uncivilised people, with domesticity of blood and blubber. [...] Because they served their country well, and deserved well of her, and can ask, no more on this earth, for her justice or her loving-kindness; give them both, full measure, pressed down, running over. Because no Franklin can come back, to write the honest story of their woes and resignation, read it tenderly and truly in the book he has left us. Because they lie scattered on those wastes of snow, and are as defenceless against the remembrance of coming generations, as against the elements into which they are resolving, and the winter winds that alone can waft them home, now, impalpable air; therefore cherish them gently, even in the breasts of children." C. Dickens "The Lost Arctic Voyagers"

@Dvoreckii:
"There's a little bit of a human layer in us
Layered shakily and alarmingly;
It's easy to turn us back into cattle,
It's very difficult to get it back up."
(YG)

@Darula: if you're confused by naturalism, then you're just a prude
. Don't watch Chernobyl, people are generally decomposing there, ugh

"For a moment, Crozier thought he could hear the creak of a cot and the rustle of icy blankets, under which a mummified corpse was moving. He distinctly heard the crack of withered tendons as a dead brown hand with long brown fingers and terribly long yellow nails slowly rose and reached out to him.
Crozier didn't turn around. And he didn't run. And he didn't look over his shoulder. He's slowly flying out of the cabin..."

@vk729438: this is some kind of freedom from the translator - the original text uses phrases - "he was sure that he could hear...., he could hear his hand slowly rising" - that is, it says that Crozier seemed to be aware of what was happening behind his back, but it was not clearly heard and was happening at in front of his eyes.

"For a second he was sure that he could hear the bunk creak and the nest of frozen blankets stir as the mummified thing behind him reached for him. He could hear the dry tendons in the dead arm stretching and snapping as the brown hand with its long brown fingers and too-long yellow nails slowly rose."

Umm...it's kind of obvious that the reaching hand of a dead man is written metaphorically and no dead man was reaching for him. For me, it would be interesting if a similar moment was filmed in the series, Crozier stands with a hand reaching out behind him, and then he leaves the cabin and the body on the bed in the same position as it was at the time of his arrival, for me it would be very interesting, a kind of metaphor that the dead past of his didn't want to let go. And then he burns Terror, that's the ending! And not just sitting on the ice under the northern lights

@Dark_Alice: and those who left the patients with canned food and left? Have they been shown in the series?

@e46owner: Crozier, along with the Silent One, goes to look for his people at the very end. They pass by abandoned patients, among whom, of course, there are no longer any living ones. Then there is another dead camp. And the last parking lot, where there are no survivors either.

@Villariba: imagination is better than any movie)

@Dark_Alice: The book has several chapters devoted to who he is and where he came from (while I was still outraged about what this mythology was all about) in the movies, they forgot about her for some reason, and it became completely unclear what was what.

@ogoltelo: the joke is counted :)
Well, it's just that often, when you try to explain your position, you explain that you personally didn't like this or that, and people react so sharply right away: "F**k off, go to matre svaeva fezruk sirialkroot, and everyone doesn't give a fuck if you like it!e!E111!!" and all that :)

Oh damn, something in the series did not notice his thought: with

And about the love line and the sushi line in general, I meant that if you cut them out of the series, then it seems to me that he won't lose anything at all. These lines didn't lead anywhere anyway. The fact that, for example, the captain would not have a love interest in the series, or if they had just told about it in words and not wasted time, then the series, it seems to me, would not have lost anything at all.

Anyway, thanks for the reply.

It would have been better if it had been shown in the series, rather than having to pick it out of the book later..

@FRFD: Yeah, it also depresses me that people react to critical comments like that. A lot of things in the series were crumpled up, there is such a thing. Imho, it's more for those people who like to hang out on the atmosphere, but generally one creak of the masts is enough for me to come on alert, immediately full speed ahead, seven feet under the keel and a tailwind, and the plot is the fifth thing)

@ogoltelo: No, well, when they just say "what the fuck kind of shit * the name of the series * is a bitch, everyone who watches it is morons1111!" and without specifics or type of criticism, it is clear that hardly anyone will like it, but other times you seem to write normally that you are not satisfied and, most importantly, why do you have such an opinion it appeared at all, but people don't want to notice or even think about any disadvantages of the series :) I remember just writing something in the style of "hohhh, did you notice a blunder at such and such a minute and two blunders at such and such a minute?)) By the way, it wasn't logical yet to do this and that))" and you immediately get an answer like, "Ugh, don't quibble!" ahaha

in general, one creak of the masts is enough for me to come to combat readiness, immediately full speed ahead, seven feet under the keel and a tailwind" aahahahh so cute))) funny way she wrapped it up))

@ogoltelo: Ahhh, I have to figure it out for the heroes myself, it's sad..
BUT it's justifiably interesting! Thanks again for the reply!

@ogoltelo: he could also have a reassessment of life values after everything he saw. and it is unlikely that he would have been able to calmly return to London and drink tea there, walking around in a tailcoat.
and it looks like the child at the end with him is his (or adopted, it doesn't matter. it is important that in these ice floes he seems to have found a family and people who need him)

Well, yes.
if we compare both the book and the series on a scale of 10, then I would give the book an 8, the series no more than 5.
so it's better to read, there are no options here. The book is just great.

@Neuner: Bliiin, if it were in the series, it would be much better :(( This is just my opinion..

@FRFD: On the contrary, I liked that they didn't touch on any female-male topics or gender relations. There were no insatiable glances at the Eskimo, no attempts at harassment, no love story with the doctor. that would add cheapness to the series, as far as I'm concerned.
and this is also purely my opinion))

@ktspctr: Well, it seems so, but then at least the captain's motivation to stay would be clearer. Although I like how the man came out and explained why he could stay :)

@ktspctr: I was also glad that for once there was no far-fetched love story. but there was loyalty, self-sacrifice, friendship to the grave, and everything that should be in a series about people on the edge.

@TatyanaMorozova: Well, maybe that sounds reasonable, at least.

There's nothing strange about that right now. AI, Fargo, and True Detective proved the validity of the anthology series. We started with Roman Simmons, and, as far as I know, they will continue with the Second World War. I hope the separation from the book will not harm the series.

@Dark_Alice: One thing to understand here is that everyone has different tastes, and I can agree that AI has weak seasons, but that doesn't mean the series is bad, it's just not yours. As for the sequels... The fact of the matter is that it's not about a sequel, but about a completely different story, which can be perceived as a different series. Maybe the new story will be worse, or maybe better, we'll wait and see.

@Alex_Fear: Я конечно держал в голове и совсем не против альманаха в ключе AHS. Но все же в основе ж ведь одноименный роман. А события романа, насколько я полагаю, охватили полностью весь первый сезон.

Ну разве что это будет приквел или спин-офф про путешествие той самой спасательной экспедиции. Но все равно это будет не так увлекательно и неизведанно, как случилось с экипажами Террора и Эребуса.

@Zombieset: да нет, будет именно что совсем другая история, что-то про Вторую мировую. Это, кстати, лучше, чем если бы они начали нести отсебятину касаемо той экспедиции.

@Alex_Fear: Я не совсем понимаю логику .. и что что у слова другое значение есть? Это же название, которое напрямую отсылает к определённому кораблю и произведению!

С таким успехом почему бы не снять... не знаю...ну от балды стреляю, например чего бы не снять "Титаник 2" , в котором будут бегать по городам огромные титаны, но это будет именно продолжение того самого "Титаник"а ибо это ж слово может и другое значение иметь , а значит чего бы и не снять ?
Или условный "Чужой 5" , что б это было типа частью франшизы и всё такое, но было про...не знаю... мать которая ростит чужого ребёнка, так как "чужой" тоже имеет разные значения)))
ЗЫ: Не думай что доёбываюсь или пытаюсь как-то задеть, просто мне действительно не совсем понятна логика ..
Вот если сериал будет опять касаться темы этой экспедиции и хотя бы упоминать корабли, то тогда да. Но условный второй сезон этого сериала про превозмогание какой-нибудь там команды корабля в времена Второй Мировой каким боком будет касаться этого названия и сериала в целом ? Не понимаю ((

@FRFD: ну знаешь, чужие, титаны - это ты утрируешь уже. Террор - это ужас. Да, идеальное название для книги или фильма ужасов о корабле с таким же названием, но рейтинги, сам понимаешь, дают прекрасный повод обыграть это слово. Будет уже не то, конечно, но своеобразная логика в этом есть.

@Alex_Fear: Утрирую, да, но просто ..блин..всё равно не вижу смысла.. сериал назван в честь книги и в честь одного из кораблей, вообще никакой логики не вижу в том, что б продолжить этот сериал , где вообще ничего и близко не будет про эту историю и историю этих кораблей в частности . И в данном контексте Террор это не ужас, а название корабля, который , в свою очередь, называется Террором\Ужасом :)


Хехх, вот рейтинги это да, тут отлично понимаю..