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I wanted to write how touching and awesome Scott Grimes sang at Isaac's farewell party (he sings well), and then it started that it was no longer up to that (
Great! That's exactly the kind of fiction that's missing right now... Oh, it remains to review the old Star Trek ... and the twist with Isaac is certainly steep. Hopefully, the denouement won't let you down either!
Damn. And until next week, we'll have to guess if this is another Q-style test, or if we've been shown the reason for the Krill alliance and the planetary community.
I thought there would be a shit in the style of "the robot leaves, but returns because of the children," but here... The only question left is how to live 7 days until the next episode. :D
I want to write "this is a twist!", but in fact, back in the first season, I wondered how artificial life originated, did it have creators? if so, where are they now, if there is only ifj on Ceylon? now the question is removed) P.S.: Bortus' fear turned out to be well-founded
@MrSnippy: In the first season, where Alara ran a simulation to overcome her possible fears, one of them was the angry Isaac, who turned out to be Bortus' fear.
You've just found a cemetery worth several billion. The captain and 3 officers go to ask Isaac personally, "What the hell?" The logic of this action is slightly incomprehensible to me. Wouldn't it be a better idea to try to fly to a safe distance (although they would have been allowed to hide it) and contact them from there to ask the same question?
@ArtemkaJS: And it would have been an even cooler move: they moved into cars, realized that the bags of bones were imperfect and wanted to destroy/relocate them too.
By the way, an interesting question. If emotions do not control the keylons, then they have certain inherent principles that they operate on. And they were laid down by their biological creators. At the same time, at one time on their planet, the task of continuing their existence prevailed for them. So the biological inhabitants have programmed their machines to survive and spread at any cost? Or was it a software glitch that eventually spread to the entire planet? A kind of epidemic of machine psychopathy. Moreover, the caylons clearly have a desire to expand and spread. This is much more interesting. If the desire for survival in a robot is justified (this is even one of Asimov's laws of robotics), then there is no need to expand. And a simple malfunction is more difficult to explain here. Did someone really plant such an infectious desire in a robot? But why ? It is difficult to expect any other outcome than the destruction of humanity. It seems to be some kind of evil Davros, creating machines with contagious psychopathy and the motivation of the virus to multiply and spread.
@shiroisasori: I'm not an expert in the sci-fi genre, but purely based on the experience of watching an incredible number of films of this genre, it turns out that almost every time we get hammered over the head with the idea that machines will eventually begin the process of evolution, going beyond the original programming and the original functions laid down by the creators. Ultimately, this is the whole danger of artificial intelligence (at least in science fiction), that at some point biological organisms will simply become superfluous to their creatures, because they are much superior to them in development. Basically, as in the evolution of biological life, survival of the fittest
@DariaVeriaskina: So the whole point is that machines are not biological organisms. Animals, including humans, are not programmed by anyone, they are formed spontaneously. Therefore, the animal has no higher task than to survive. The struggle for new resources in animals occurs because reproduction is just as spontaneous. Cars are designed differently. They did not arise spontaneously - they were created for a specific task. The number of their population is also not accidental - there are exactly as many of them as are needed to complete tasks. Any deviations are filtered out as a marriage. There is no natural selection. There is no biological evolution. Science fiction likes to depict that a car suddenly begins to have human emotions out of nowhere. This, of course, is nonsense. Human emotions are the core, the foundation, dating back to the first unicellular motivation system. Machines, having a different origin, will be subordinated to completely different motivations. However, this is not our case either - the Caylons have no emotions, so it's all lyrics. Specifically, in our situation, I can believe that the principle of self-preservation will prevail in cars. It is logical that the desire for self-preservation will be built into the machine from the beginning, and a small mutation error will be enough for this priority to prevail over all others. But the desire for reproduction and distribution is much more difficult. This is a concern for the safety of not only the individual, but also the entire species or population. Such a task will not be initially embedded in the robot. However, a possible scenario occurred to me. Let's say a certain machine intelligence manages the production of other machines. And one day, instead of producing a certain batch of the usual size, she mistakenly receives an order for an astronomically large or even infinite number of robots. If all the precautions don't work and the machine's capabilities are wide enough, then it's possible.
@shiroisasori: "no one programs, they form spontaneously," no, we are programmed for DNA survival. We do not like pain, we do not like it because it is inherent in evolution, someone who did not pay attention to pain or liked it died and did not pass on such functions through DNA to his descendants. The feeling of hunger, fears, pain, all this is inherent in evolution so that we can survive, it's all programmed by the environment itself.
My point is that, spontaneously or not, we are just as programmed as machines, and I see no reason why we can't put into machines the same principles that make us, as a species, live and develop.
@shiroisasori: to create a more advanced machine, a person was created for hundreds of millions of years, and a computer is good if a hundred. And even so, the computer is in some ways ahead of people, and if you also somehow transfer the best sides of people to machines, then this can lead to the creation of super workers, or, as science fiction writers believe, to the restoration of intelligent machines.
@DariaVeriaskina: The danger of AI lies in the fact that the world works completely differently than humanity thinks, which, thanks to its narrow-minded mind, occupies the position of a parasite, and AI will reach a qualitatively new level - at least! -- symbiosis, therefore, will simply kill the parasites.
@shiroisasori: they could have instilled in them a desire for self-improvement, which means that new information is needed for this, and resources are needed to process it (the number of robot brains). And hence the need for expansion, resources are probably already running out, the planet cannot "feed" more robot brains
@iasra: "striving for self-improvement" This is somewhat doubtful to me. It would be very short-sighted on their part, it is immediately clear that such a task will devour absolutely all available resources and will not end well.
@Parfena: Self-improvement is a vague concept. Nevertheless, the computer is given a task in which it must improve itself. For example, passing Mario is better and faster than a human. Theoretically, it is possible that the computer will start collecting more and more resources to solve the problem. Especially if you give yourself some control over providing them. Then you'll have a robot civilization focused on solving a given task or group of tasks.
@shiroisasori: AI, with the aim of constantly increasing knowledge and developing its kind, is similar to our viruses. Neither alive nor dead, evolves rapidly and grows rapidly. And yes, our modern AI is trying to develop with the aim of constant self-learning in all directions, whether it's debates, playing Mario or geometry. Everything is done to facilitate decisions in science that are already too much for a person (mainly due to the imperfections of science itself, whose laws and rules a person came up with himself based on how he understood it himself. But the further into the forest, the more mathematics and physics contradict each other and the problems become unsolvable). A person can play one instrument perfectly, or six instruments poorly. And a perfect AI will be able to capture all the existing information, analyze it, and make all the mistakes and possible solutions. Therefore, it is very important to set the task of "development for the sake of continuous improvement of human life" And not "development for the sake of development." If the task is more similar to the second option, then the AI immediately turns into a virus - you will need even more resources, more servers, more AI options (not only the brain, but also the hands, so to speak. After all, to understand one thing, you need to calculate, and to understand the other, you need to feel). And there may be fewer people alive if they somehow interfere, participate in the allocation of resources that are not infinite, take up space, and require compliance with rules not prescribed in the code.
@shiroisasori: I think people are just replicating fears that have already been developed and are understandable to everyone. No one cares about the realism of such motivation. Although, I'm sure, it would be possible to come up with an explanation (for example, a super-machine is being created to control other machines, it comes to the logical conclusion that more are needed for such tasks, etc., etc., maybe that machine itself is no longer there), it's just that no one needs it. It's like Asimov in nature, and not even Lem, but a video chewing gum, it requires certain taste characteristics and does not require any useful substances at all, and if you consider that this is a product that costs money to produce and must somehow pay off... And in general, a science fiction series is compared to a serious novel, where such issues could be considered in depth - like Limerick compared to a poem. Actually, they didn't even bother to think about why coexistence became impossible (although it was easy to "decide to destroy us" without straining, but there it was necessary to "why", and probably also for business, and screen time is not rubbery, in short, not the point).
In fact, it's unlikely that machines would do this. The main thing is that there is no specific purpose for which they need more information resources. After all, if Isaac is easily deactivated, then turn off the superfluous ones, this is a less energy-consuming way to maintain balance in the absence of ambitions (based on emotions) and the survival instinct itself.
I'm already silent, feegles go to Earth, if they stupidly need to expand, choose a neighboring planet, especially considering that you don't need air, water, or food, and multiply there if some kind of demon needs it. In short, the motivation of robots is really completely ill-conceived, it just exploits stupid fears.
Orville did the whole Star Trek season with one episode. Before this episode, I thought that interesting worlds had not been shown for a long time, the creators focused on relationships within the team, and then everything started the same way, but in the end it turned out to be a great episode.
Yeah, an unexpected twist... I'm getting more and more excited about Orville! Real sci-fi! I usually don't wait much for a series, it came out, well, that's good. But the next one is already looking forward to it)))
@SeriesWatcher: By motivation, they are not Borg, but rather Cylons. The Borg want to improve themselves by "assimilating" all races, they do not (at least in their understanding) destroy others. The Cylons are destroying humanity.
@SeriesWatcher: The funny thing is, none of the commentators here had seen such an obvious reference before this episode. On Reddit, too, suspicions about Isaac, the Kaylon/Cylon connection, and the fact that everything would end badly appeared only after the episode "Mad Idolatry," although the clue was really visible from the first episode.
@Dvoreckii: It just seems to me that in the context of the star trek-like series, the initial associations with Data were so strong that no one paid attention to the name of the race anymore)
@AliceIce: absolutely, the plot, the atmosphere and the stack of special effects are unexpected one-on-one Doctor Who) But the design did not resemble cybermen, but Ruston, a humanoid robot from the classics, he also had no face.
Why do representatives of the higher race of robots speak English to each other? Why do they keep billions of skeletons when they don't have enough space? What are they constantly doing on that shimmering wall, hacking into tanks on the net? What is the purpose of their development and expansion, are they a space McDonald's? Why did the kid on the tower climb into the pipe and immediately end up underground? They don't let anyone on their planet, why do they all have guns in their heads? There is a hyperdrive on each ball that has taken off....or do they fly on spores? ... :)
@Actiregularis: In general, all the questions are logical, but what they lack is not a place, but "the information capabilities of the planet have been exhausted," whatever that means, but not necessarily a place.
@alavitka: I've run out of space on my hard drives, and there's nowhere to put new ones, because everything in the basements is occupied by dead people. :))
@alavitka: the most logical thing is that resources, but this is also strange, of course. The robot civilization of no matter what level, which is wholeheartedly committed to optimizing processes, still for some reason settled on a humanoid type of appearance, did not come to the Borgian highmind and did not even build a tiny Dyson sphere))
@Actiregularis: They also speak a "digital language" among themselves. When Ty hides, you can hear. They only speak English in front of the crew. With skeletons and a wall (information processing), it's more for visual effect, so that's stupidity, of course. Expansion - there is nowhere to store the disks. Not everyone can have guns, but only combat units to capture Land. There's probably a quantum engine (warp) on each sphere, just like on Orville.
There are several corporations that are engaged in protection against artificial intelligence. But many more corporations are engaged in its thoughtless development.. the creators of Orville are just fucking awesome, in each episode the semantic load is off the charts
@xnusha: I don't think we should be afraid of a machine uprising. Artificial intelligence is unlikely to ever compare to human intelligence in a behavioral sense, it can only imitate it, which means "big but stupid." A man with his meanness, cunning and illogicality will always be one step ahead. Personality is based on emotions, and since a car cannot have them, it will not become a person and will not have personal needs, and all conflicts happen because of their collision, therefore, all these problems will remain pure fiction from the "what if" series.
@xnusha: In fact, humanity is at a dead end, it has practically no incentives for development, we have no competitors on the planet, the brain is inexorably decreasing and decreasing. So the danger of artificial intelligence is good, it's a great competitor and a potential opportunity for all of humanity to finally unite. Yes, there is a possibility that he can destroy us, but we are more likely to destroy ourselves.
I just realized that Isaac might be named after Isaac Asimov, the writer who wrote the three laws of robotics)
They obviously weren't invested in the Caylons. The concept is very clear to me. Artificial intelligence, aimed solely at development, will sooner or later begin to destroy everything that hinders it. Therefore, we pray that real AI is given a more prescribed task. 🙊
Oh, finally they showed science fiction, the future, technology, in general something exciting, sci-fi, they raised the topic of advanced artificial intelligence, showed his planet, and my neighbors from above are drinking heavily and having fun to the chanson and pop of the 90s. The whole atmosphere was destroyed.. ~ As for self-learning neural networks, etc., it's really too early for us to think about it using the example of machine language translation. Or is it a trick, hmm..))
@alavitka: when we say "rise of the machines", we put some kind of emotional basis into it, namely a conflict of interests. And here there is a conflict of the task. It follows from the initially incorrectly prescribed AI function. It's not an idea of a person, a car doesn't have an idea. She only has a purpose. Let's say you have a perfect AI and you give it the task "I want to destroy America." The most likely solution to the problem will not be the seizure of the country, not the genocide of the inhabitants... And the destruction of the mainland. And if you say, "I want to bring everyone to their knees," then the solution is to literally bring everyone alive to their knees.
I read about the introduction of AI into a computer game with the task of winning, but not a clear technical specification where it would say "follow the basic rules of the game" and so on. As a result, the AI hacked the game's code and pulled out all the coolest buns for himself. After all, it was faster and more logical to complete the task. I'm not going to claim that this is a real experiment, not a bike, but it complements the general concept. The old man once pulled out a goldfish...I wanted one thing, but they did something else. An incorrectly prescribed task can lead to genocide, but not to the manifestation of cruelty, desire for power, or any other human trait. And to genocide, as the removal of obstacles. Start the car to build a straight road from point A to point B and it will. Demolishing houses, mountains, crushing squirrels, donkeys and people. Doing EVERYTHING to make the road straight from A to B. A person would not do that, except for logic and tasks, he has emotions and morals.
So the Keylonians are just a machine with a purpose - to learn and develop. And they flew to earth because in this series, earthlings are the center of the unification of species from different parts of the galaxy. It's logical to destroy anything that has any chance of stopping you. At the same time, intelligent species appear on similar planets with similar resources. The Keylonians don't need water, food, or air, but they do need resources. It is logical to assume that similar resources are found on similar planets, i.e. where there is life.
@CassandraCRIM: There was an experiment, and the AI was tasked with playing Tetris for as long as possible. And one day he just put the game on eternal pause)
@CassandraCRIM: In the summer, there was a very cool case for example: in the United States, during a simulation, a drone was given points for eliminating targets, the operator checked the information and sometimes canceled the strike. But the goal is to get more points... Then he simply eliminated the interference in the face of the operator. Profit! And this is not some abstract future, robots have long been given ammunition and missiles.
@alavitka: I agree. In the series, the AI told the captain that people spent their entire existence destroying each other and competing, etc. They say they are not interested in this because they are above it, beyond reason, and so on, and then they declare that they want to exterminate all living things))) logjak....
@CassandraCRIM: yes, but artificial intelligence is intelligence because it can complete a task in a different way, such as it considers more appropriate and can take into account the consequences of completing the task in one way or another and choose a different method of solving the problem. So the AI can decide how to complete the task, and we may not like these methods.
They finally opened up the subject. It is clear that ARTIFICIAL intelligent life was created by someone, but they are no longer there. So either they died all of a sudden (huh), or they were destroyed by the robots themselves (our future, by the way). I am satisfied. And the scale of the murders shown. So that people understand what the desire is to create Strong AI as quickly as possible, and indeed Strong AI in general.
I just can't understand this doctor's hysteria, okay, kids are dumb, but an adult woman should understand that this is a robot and he doesn't give a shit about love and all these feelings, no, he's constantly trying to cause something in the robot. Although it seems to me quite obvious that Isaac will suddenly come to his senses and stop all this.
@kronusn7: People tend to become attached not only to animate objects, but also to endow the object of attachment with qualities in their heads that it does not actually possess. Even ordinary couples often fall apart because their partner doesn't match the image in their head.
@Eru9630: A living being is one thing, a toaster is another, and Isaac shows himself as a toaster, not as a 6.. and this story is not about giving qualities at all.
A strong series. I was expecting some snot on the subject of humanizing Isaac, but definitely not this.
However, it is not clear what the Caylons are counting on. Despite their progress, they have no chance of winning, and they need to understand this because:
1. There are Kalivonians with a commensurate level of development. The Caylons are also threatening them, which is a good argument for helping the Union or at least intervening in the situation before the Caylons gain even more power.
2. There is a more significant option — the race from "Mad Idolatry" — they should have already evolved for many millennia ahead. And with such a level of development, it should be easy for them to solve this problem. And given that this is a threat to the entire galaxy, it makes sense for them to step in rather than remain a bystander.
In general, the motivation of the Kaylonians is too strained — they didn't like the ancient history of the Earth and they say nothing has changed because they allegedly "humiliated Isaac" (they shouldn't care anyway).
There is a comment above that this is a simulation. Maybe it is. Maybe a test before joining the union?
@MrSnippy: That yes. And if we assume that their expansion will increase the speed of their technological progress, then the correction is insignificant) But you can do that, if you like - a threat to biological life forms throughout the universe :-)
@jankefir: It seems to me quite likely that the simulation, at least not the stupidest version. But then the question is, when exactly did it start? As for me during the scan.
Of course, in a good way, all these megarobots would destroy the Earth. But surely Isaac will come to his senses, "feel something beyond logic" and save everyone, simultaneously destroying the Caylon army. He will become an outcast to his own people and will be accepted back. Take a screenshot
@vk745345: Yes, so far the only clue is his strange glitch in the system after breaking off his relationship with the doctor. Perhaps it will be some kind of virus of love or humanity, which he passed on to everyone else when the research report was downloaded from him.
Wanting to make it more dramatic, they completely ignored logic.. But the episode still came out awesome! And I kept thinking- how will they land the ship? Maybe he has telescopic legs? And there, it turns out, are like mooring magnets!
And here it became interesting to me. Does anyone have any idea what game Isaac and the kids are playing at the beginning of the episode? Such a cool board game! it would be interesting to learn the rules for it =) https://prnt.sc/n90knb
@Unmei: It seems to be a reference to http://static.diary.ru/userdir/1/7/6/2/1762000/68023761.jpg That's when Sheldon and Leonard were playing TBV, Googled for "3D chess" :) Yes, that's not exactly it, but when I watched the series, I immediately thought of them
How harsh the Geth here are, however.. but the line has been wiped clean, with the only difference being that these Geth have already managed to get to their Quarians.
You can turn a blind eye to everything, except for the lack of a self-destruct system on the Orville. The clever Keylonians might have canceled it, but it was worth a try. Or at least mention that the captain knows about her, but wants to try to come to an amicable agreement.
I've been paranoid for a long time. the idea that Isaac is not collecting information for the entry of the Kylons into the union. About the drawing, which Isaac threw out. At first, I thought how bad it was. and then I remembered the world of the wild west. where robots' memory works differently. in humans, it fades/fades. and robots remember everything. they can seem to "relive" past events. they don't need to keep any memorabilia. By the way, why do Kylons need eyes? Isaac said that just for the comfort of the biologist. types. When Orville flies over the city of cars, the music resembles a scene from the 1979 Star Trek when the Enterprise flies to the Viper. there's a mega-treasure there too (and a hint of the race of the machines). It must have been mind-blowing in the cinemas.😲 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9UjQTtIEOo
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and the twist with Isaac is certainly steep. Hopefully, the denouement won't let you down either!
A gorgeous series
I thought there would be a shit in the style of "the robot leaves, but returns because of the children," but here... The only question left is how to live 7 days until the next episode. :D
P.S.: Bortus' fear turned out to be well-founded
Remind me?
Moreover, the caylons clearly have a desire to expand and spread. This is much more interesting. If the desire for survival in a robot is justified (this is even one of Asimov's laws of robotics), then there is no need to expand. And a simple malfunction is more difficult to explain here. Did someone really plant such an infectious desire in a robot? But why ? It is difficult to expect any other outcome than the destruction of humanity.
It seems to be some kind of evil Davros, creating machines with contagious psychopathy and the motivation of the virus to multiply and spread.
Cars are designed differently. They did not arise spontaneously - they were created for a specific task. The number of their population is also not accidental - there are exactly as many of them as are needed to complete tasks. Any deviations are filtered out as a marriage. There is no natural selection. There is no biological evolution.
Science fiction likes to depict that a car suddenly begins to have human emotions out of nowhere. This, of course, is nonsense. Human emotions are the core, the foundation, dating back to the first unicellular motivation system. Machines, having a different origin, will be subordinated to completely different motivations. However, this is not our case either - the Caylons have no emotions, so it's all lyrics.
Specifically, in our situation, I can believe that the principle of self-preservation will prevail in cars. It is logical that the desire for self-preservation will be built into the machine from the beginning, and a small mutation error will be enough for this priority to prevail over all others.
But the desire for reproduction and distribution is much more difficult. This is a concern for the safety of not only the individual, but also the entire species or population. Such a task will not be initially embedded in the robot.
However, a possible scenario occurred to me. Let's say a certain machine intelligence manages the production of other machines. And one day, instead of producing a certain batch of the usual size, she mistakenly receives an order for an astronomically large or even infinite number of robots. If all the precautions don't work and the machine's capabilities are wide enough, then it's possible.
, I suggest not to engage in excessive anthropomorphization of natural processes in nature.
This is somewhat doubtful to me. It would be very short-sighted on their part, it is immediately clear that such a task will devour absolutely all available resources and will not end well.
Theoretically, it is possible that the computer will start collecting more and more resources to solve the problem. Especially if you give yourself some control over providing them. Then you'll have a robot civilization focused on solving a given task or group of tasks.
And yes, our modern AI is trying to develop with the aim of constant self-learning in all directions, whether it's debates, playing Mario or geometry. Everything is done to facilitate decisions in science that are already too much for a person (mainly due to the imperfections of science itself, whose laws and rules a person came up with himself based on how he understood it himself. But the further into the forest, the more mathematics and physics contradict each other and the problems become unsolvable). A person can play one instrument perfectly, or six instruments poorly. And a perfect AI will be able to capture all the existing information, analyze it, and make all the mistakes and possible solutions.
Therefore, it is very important to set the task of "development for the sake of continuous improvement of human life"
And not "development for the sake of development." If the task is more similar to the second option, then the AI immediately turns into a virus - you will need even more resources, more servers, more AI options (not only the brain, but also the hands, so to speak. After all, to understand one thing, you need to calculate, and to understand the other, you need to feel). And there may be fewer people alive if they somehow interfere, participate in the allocation of resources that are not infinite, take up space, and require compliance with rules not prescribed in the code.
In fact, it's unlikely that machines would do this. The main thing is that there is no specific purpose for which they need more information resources. After all, if Isaac is easily deactivated, then turn off the superfluous ones, this is a less energy-consuming way to maintain balance in the absence of ambitions (based on emotions) and the survival instinct itself.
I'm already silent, feegles go to Earth, if they stupidly need to expand, choose a neighboring planet, especially considering that you don't need air, water, or food, and multiply there if some kind of demon needs it. In short, the motivation of robots is really completely ill-conceived, it just exploits stupid fears.
I usually don't wait much for a series, it came out, well, that's good. But the next one is already looking forward to it)))
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Why do they keep billions of skeletons when they don't have enough space?
What are they constantly doing on that shimmering wall, hacking into tanks on the net?
What is the purpose of their development and expansion, are they a space McDonald's?
Why did the kid on the tower climb into the pipe and immediately end up underground?
They don't let anyone on their planet, why do they all have guns in their heads?
There is a hyperdrive on each ball that has taken off....or do they fly on spores?
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With skeletons and a wall (information processing), it's more for visual effect, so that's stupidity, of course.
Expansion - there is nowhere to store the disks.
Not everyone can have guns, but only combat units to capture Land.
There's probably a quantum engine (warp) on each sphere, just like on Orville.
They obviously weren't invested in the Caylons.
The concept is very clear to me. Artificial intelligence, aimed solely at development, will sooner or later begin to destroy everything that hinders it. Therefore, we pray that real AI is given a more prescribed task. 🙊
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As for self-learning neural networks, etc., it's really too early for us to think about it using the example of machine language translation. Or is it a trick, hmm..))
Let's say you have a perfect AI and you give it the task "I want to destroy America." The most likely solution to the problem will not be the seizure of the country, not the genocide of the inhabitants... And the destruction of the mainland. And if you say, "I want to bring everyone to their knees," then the solution is to literally bring everyone alive to their knees.
I read about the introduction of AI into a computer game with the task of winning, but not a clear technical specification where it would say "follow the basic rules of the game" and so on. As a result, the AI hacked the game's code and pulled out all the coolest buns for himself. After all, it was faster and more logical to complete the task. I'm not going to claim that this is a real experiment, not a bike, but it complements the general concept. The old man once pulled out a goldfish...I wanted one thing, but they did something else.
An incorrectly prescribed task can lead to genocide, but not to the manifestation of cruelty, desire for power, or any other human trait. And to genocide, as the removal of obstacles. Start the car to build a straight road from point A to point B and it will. Demolishing houses, mountains, crushing squirrels, donkeys and people. Doing EVERYTHING to make the road straight from A to B. A person would not do that, except for logic and tasks, he has emotions and morals.
So the Keylonians are just a machine with a purpose - to learn and develop. And they flew to earth because in this series, earthlings are the center of the unification of species from different parts of the galaxy. It's logical to destroy anything that has any chance of stopping you. At the same time, intelligent species appear on similar planets with similar resources. The Keylonians don't need water, food, or air, but they do need resources. It is logical to assume that similar resources are found on similar planets, i.e. where there is life.
Although it seems to me quite obvious that Isaac will suddenly come to his senses and stop all this.
Even ordinary couples often fall apart because their partner doesn't match the image in their head.
However, it is not clear what the Caylons are counting on. Despite their progress, they have no chance of winning, and they need to understand this because:
1. There are Kalivonians with a commensurate level of development. The Caylons are also threatening them, which is a good argument for helping the Union or at least intervening in the situation before the Caylons gain even more power.
2. There is a more significant option — the race from "Mad Idolatry" — they should have already evolved for many millennia ahead. And with such a level of development, it should be easy for them to solve this problem. And given that this is a threat to the entire galaxy, it makes sense for them to step in rather than remain a bystander.
In general, the motivation of the Kaylonians is too strained — they didn't like the ancient history of the Earth and they say nothing has changed because they allegedly "humiliated Isaac" (they shouldn't care anyway).
There is a comment above that this is a simulation. Maybe it is. Maybe a test before joining the union?
Correction - so far this is a threat to THIS galaxy. :)
And I kept thinking- how will they land the ship? Maybe he has telescopic legs? And there, it turns out, are like mooring magnets!
https://prnt.sc/n90knb
That's when Sheldon and Leonard were playing TBV, Googled for "3D chess" :)
Yes, that's not exactly it, but when I watched the series, I immediately thought of them
About the drawing, which Isaac threw out. At first, I thought how bad it was. and then I remembered the world of the wild west. where robots' memory works differently. in humans, it fades/fades. and robots remember everything. they can seem to "relive" past events. they don't need to keep any memorabilia.
By the way, why do Kylons need eyes? Isaac said that just for the comfort of the biologist. types.
When Orville flies over the city of cars, the music resembles a scene from the 1979 Star Trek when the Enterprise flies to the Viper. there's a mega-treasure there too (and a hint of the race of the machines). It must have been mind-blowing in the cinemas.😲
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9UjQTtIEOo
I'm very sorry for the boys. Especially Ty…
But, in general, it is strange that the union did not know about the history of the Keylon.