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s02e08 — Identity
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| Runtime: | 43 min. |
| Release Date: | 21.02.201922.02.2019 05:00 |
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| Runtime: | 43 min. |
| Release Date: | 21.02.201922.02.2019 05:00 |
| Watched by: | 9 33548.22% |
Discussion: Season 2, Episode 8 Join the Discussion
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and the twist with Isaac is certainly steep. Hopefully, the denouement won't let you down either!
A gorgeous series
I thought there would be a shit in the style of "the robot leaves, but returns because of the children," but here... The only question left is how to live 7 days until the next episode. :D
P.S.: Bortus' fear turned out to be well-founded
Remind me?
Moreover, the caylons clearly have a desire to expand and spread. This is much more interesting. If the desire for survival in a robot is justified (this is even one of Asimov's laws of robotics), then there is no need to expand. And a simple malfunction is more difficult to explain here. Did someone really plant such an infectious desire in a robot? But why ? It is difficult to expect any other outcome than the destruction of humanity.
It seems to be some kind of evil Davros, creating machines with contagious psychopathy and the motivation of the virus to multiply and spread.
Cars are designed differently. They did not arise spontaneously - they were created for a specific task. The number of their population is also not accidental - there are exactly as many of them as are needed to complete tasks. Any deviations are filtered out as a marriage. There is no natural selection. There is no biological evolution.
Science fiction likes to depict that a car suddenly begins to have human emotions out of nowhere. This, of course, is nonsense. Human emotions are the core, the foundation, dating back to the first unicellular motivation system. Machines, having a different origin, will be subordinated to completely different motivations. However, this is not our case either - the Caylons have no emotions, so it's all lyrics.
Specifically, in our situation, I can believe that the principle of self-preservation will prevail in cars. It is logical that the desire for self-preservation will be built into the machine from the beginning, and a small mutation error will be enough for this priority to prevail over all others.
But the desire for reproduction and distribution is much more difficult. This is a concern for the safety of not only the individual, but also the entire species or population. Such a task will not be initially embedded in the robot.
However, a possible scenario occurred to me. Let's say a certain machine intelligence manages the production of other machines. And one day, instead of producing a certain batch of the usual size, she mistakenly receives an order for an astronomically large or even infinite number of robots. If all the precautions don't work and the machine's capabilities are wide enough, then it's possible.
, I suggest not to engage in excessive anthropomorphization of natural processes in nature.
This is somewhat doubtful to me. It would be very short-sighted on their part, it is immediately clear that such a task will devour absolutely all available resources and will not end well.
Theoretically, it is possible that the computer will start collecting more and more resources to solve the problem. Especially if you give yourself some control over providing them. Then you'll have a robot civilization focused on solving a given task or group of tasks.
And yes, our modern AI is trying to develop with the aim of constant self-learning in all directions, whether it's debates, playing Mario or geometry. Everything is done to facilitate decisions in science that are already too much for a person (mainly due to the imperfections of science itself, whose laws and rules a person came up with himself based on how he understood it himself. But the further into the forest, the more mathematics and physics contradict each other and the problems become unsolvable). A person can play one instrument perfectly, or six instruments poorly. And a perfect AI will be able to capture all the existing information, analyze it, and make all the mistakes and possible solutions.
Therefore, it is very important to set the task of "development for the sake of continuous improvement of human life"
And not "development for the sake of development." If the task is more similar to the second option, then the AI immediately turns into a virus - you will need even more resources, more servers, more AI options (not only the brain, but also the hands, so to speak. After all, to understand one thing, you need to calculate, and to understand the other, you need to feel). And there may be fewer people alive if they somehow interfere, participate in the allocation of resources that are not infinite, take up space, and require compliance with rules not prescribed in the code.
In fact, it's unlikely that machines would do this. The main thing is that there is no specific purpose for which they need more information resources. After all, if Isaac is easily deactivated, then turn off the superfluous ones, this is a less energy-consuming way to maintain balance in the absence of ambitions (based on emotions) and the survival instinct itself.
I'm already silent, feegles go to Earth, if they stupidly need to expand, choose a neighboring planet, especially considering that you don't need air, water, or food, and multiply there if some kind of demon needs it. In short, the motivation of robots is really completely ill-conceived, it just exploits stupid fears.
I usually don't wait much for a series, it came out, well, that's good. But the next one is already looking forward to it)))
That is, Kaylons, of course.
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Why do they keep billions of skeletons when they don't have enough space?
What are they constantly doing on that shimmering wall, hacking into tanks on the net?
What is the purpose of their development and expansion, are they a space McDonald's?
Why did the kid on the tower climb into the pipe and immediately end up underground?
They don't let anyone on their planet, why do they all have guns in their heads?
There is a hyperdrive on each ball that has taken off....or do they fly on spores?
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With skeletons and a wall (information processing), it's more for visual effect, so that's stupidity, of course.
Expansion - there is nowhere to store the disks.
Not everyone can have guns, but only combat units to capture Land.
There's probably a quantum engine (warp) on each sphere, just like on Orville.
They obviously weren't invested in the Caylons.
The concept is very clear to me. Artificial intelligence, aimed solely at development, will sooner or later begin to destroy everything that hinders it. Therefore, we pray that real AI is given a more prescribed task. 🙊
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As for self-learning neural networks, etc., it's really too early for us to think about it using the example of machine language translation. Or is it a trick, hmm..))
Let's say you have a perfect AI and you give it the task "I want to destroy America." The most likely solution to the problem will not be the seizure of the country, not the genocide of the inhabitants... And the destruction of the mainland. And if you say, "I want to bring everyone to their knees," then the solution is to literally bring everyone alive to their knees.
I read about the introduction of AI into a computer game with the task of winning, but not a clear technical specification where it would say "follow the basic rules of the game" and so on. As a result, the AI hacked the game's code and pulled out all the coolest buns for himself. After all, it was faster and more logical to complete the task. I'm not going to claim that this is a real experiment, not a bike, but it complements the general concept. The old man once pulled out a goldfish...I wanted one thing, but they did something else.
An incorrectly prescribed task can lead to genocide, but not to the manifestation of cruelty, desire for power, or any other human trait. And to genocide, as the removal of obstacles. Start the car to build a straight road from point A to point B and it will. Demolishing houses, mountains, crushing squirrels, donkeys and people. Doing EVERYTHING to make the road straight from A to B. A person would not do that, except for logic and tasks, he has emotions and morals.
So the Keylonians are just a machine with a purpose - to learn and develop. And they flew to earth because in this series, earthlings are the center of the unification of species from different parts of the galaxy. It's logical to destroy anything that has any chance of stopping you. At the same time, intelligent species appear on similar planets with similar resources. The Keylonians don't need water, food, or air, but they do need resources. It is logical to assume that similar resources are found on similar planets, i.e. where there is life.
Although it seems to me quite obvious that Isaac will suddenly come to his senses and stop all this.
Even ordinary couples often fall apart because their partner doesn't match the image in their head.
However, it is not clear what the Caylons are counting on. Despite their progress, they have no chance of winning, and they need to understand this because:
1. There are Kalivonians with a commensurate level of development. The Caylons are also threatening them, which is a good argument for helping the Union or at least intervening in the situation before the Caylons gain even more power.
2. There is a more significant option — the race from "Mad Idolatry" — they should have already evolved for many millennia ahead. And with such a level of development, it should be easy for them to solve this problem. And given that this is a threat to the entire galaxy, it makes sense for them to step in rather than remain a bystander.
In general, the motivation of the Kaylonians is too strained — they didn't like the ancient history of the Earth and they say nothing has changed because they allegedly "humiliated Isaac" (they shouldn't care anyway).
There is a comment above that this is a simulation. Maybe it is. Maybe a test before joining the union?
Correction - so far this is a threat to THIS galaxy. :)
And I kept thinking- how will they land the ship? Maybe he has telescopic legs? And there, it turns out, are like mooring magnets!
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That's when Sheldon and Leonard were playing TBV, Googled for "3D chess" :)
Yes, that's not exactly it, but when I watched the series, I immediately thought of them
About the drawing, which Isaac threw out. At first, I thought how bad it was. and then I remembered the world of the wild west. where robots' memory works differently. in humans, it fades/fades. and robots remember everything. they can seem to "relive" past events. they don't need to keep any memorabilia.
By the way, why do Kylons need eyes? Isaac said that just for the comfort of the biologist. types.
When Orville flies over the city of cars, the music resembles a scene from the 1979 Star Trek when the Enterprise flies to the Viper. there's a mega-treasure there too (and a hint of the race of the machines). It must have been mind-blowing in the cinemas.😲
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9UjQTtIEOo
I'm very sorry for the boys. Especially Ty…
But, in general, it is strange that the union did not know about the history of the Keylon.