Egon's death is sad, well at least he understood everything in the end (the character's gorgeous story turned out). And Hannah continues to destroy, she is the main villain of the series.
@Darula: in general, such an act is not surprising from her, as she has been filthy since childhood, and has remained so. Damn, when she was about to shoot herself, I almost exhaled, but then the adult Jonas came back and ruined everything, eh. And so she went back to making her vile game. She'll probably turn out to be someone else's mom besides Jonas :'3
Claudia's situation with her father is an excellent proof of what happens when you know the future, you want to prevent it, but everything turns out as always)
@odoevskayaaa: here, each of their attempts to "change" the past leads precisely to the fact that they become the cause of what is happening That's the point of the series, as far as I'm concerned, that you can't fix the past.
@vk579701: This is a very interesting idea! And it's very unusual for time travel movies. Usually, the heroes of such films, books, and TV series have the opportunity to go back in time and change something. And here is a completely different thing. That a person does not live in a three-dimensional but a four-dimensional world. That he exists simultaneously in the past, present and future. It's just hard for us to understand. On the one hand, it's sad. I am not a fan of fatalism. But on the other hand, those who have left us may still exist somewhere)
@MaruMiller: The creators of the series understand that it is difficult for the viewer to track family ties, so they created a website that shows the connections of the characters and the consistent life story of each. The convenience of the scheme is that you can choose any series, and the scheme will be relevant for it, without spoilers.
@MaruMiller: That yes. It's hard to keep track of the pedigrees. Despite the fact that the series is simply bombastic, Godwin's law is simplified here to "don't sleep with anyone from your village, it's your great-grandmother or great-granddaughter"...;
Hannah pisses everyone off (me too), but Martha pisses me off the most. I always want to hit her, especially when she opens her mouth. Well, their "luboff" with Jonas is such a sad shit (like most of the hetero-romance, however), well, my.
@Ponditta11: well, she'll fuck everyone there in the past and that's it. Well, it will probably also turn out to be someone's mother or grandmother, perhaps even her own))
Hannah, of course, is a lady with questionable social responsibility (and you don't have to be a prostitute for that), but here's Katarina... Seriously, I understand that she lost her husband, her son, her husband turned out to be a traitor, and even with a friend... But that's no reason to be a redneck. We were perfectly shown that she was a typical bad girl at school, Ulrich was clearly a wingman in their pair. She's grown up. She became the headmaster of the school. But she didn't stop being a bully. I beat up Regina for nothing, broke into someone else's house in this episode with a tire iron, somehow this is not very good for a school principal.
This trio is literally worth each other: a bitch, a redneck and a traitor, the latter is at least interesting to look at, and then mostly because the actor is gorgeous!
@mixer1701: and in my opinion, she has a completely normal reaction to the nonsense going on around her. An impulsive but adequate reaction to the fact that the son of your husband's mistress is your grandson, your own son is the husband of your husband's mistress, your daughter is in love with her grandson, etc. etc.
@sabjulia: Her reaction is generally normal. It's just that she was shown to us in a variety of situations - and she really behaved like a redneck in those where it was not justified, so everyone treats her accordingly. During her school years, she just behaved wildly, plus beating Regina was not a topic at all.
Well, why not in the subject, just Regina got into a hot hand when everything boiled over and she snapped at her, but I'd rather look if Hanna was in Regina's place)
@mixer1701: If your son had disappeared, God forbid, would you have gone politely asking? It seems to me that a tire iron is the right place here, especially if you go to the house of a snake like Hannah. And especially if you see sparks between an adult man and his teenage daughter, this is not forgetting the fact that they are also relatives.
Anyway, of the two mothers - Katarina and Hannah - I am impressed by the first one, who is ready to dig through caves and draw a map just to find her son. Who will break into all the offices and ask questions right in the forehead. Imho, in such a situation it is difficult to reproach a person with excessively harsh behavior, this is despair (although I do not deny that in her youth she was a redneck).
And about Regina - well, she asked for it, remember what she said to Katarina in front of her own children.
I really don't like Hannah's character. It was true to say that she didn't care about anyone. She didn't need a husband, she didn't need a son who had returned, and she didn't need Ulrich. I think she didn't like him either, she just needed confirmation that she was being chosen and she was better. Starting from the first season, it causes one negative. Even when she allegedly thought about suicide at the beginning of season 2, I think she wanted to do it not because of the loss of her family, but because she was the one left alone. And I also feel sorry for Egon. He was too kind and naive, he probably believed some common truths, so he understood everything late. He, like Mikkel and Ulrich, does not have the happiest fate.
This means, presumably, that the screenwriters did a great job) Since Hannah's behavior is so stable, it causes everyone gorenje. But even though I feel the same way about her as most, this moment with a cigarette at 53 caused some kind of satanic light in my soul, it's probably the whole series in that spirit. When everything went to shit in your time, don't despair, you can always arrange your life by rolling back half a century x)
Come on, as for me, it's very interesting to watch Hannah, she turned out to be a very lively character. I hope she'll give everyone a shit at 53 (and the audience too).
@AnnaKolpakova: Charlotte was born in 1971, Hannah has now moved to the age of 54 at the age of 49! Simple arithmetic calculations show that she should give birth to Charlotte at 66! 🙄 There is a kanesh option that Noah will knock her up right now at 54 and then somehow someone (Adam? Because Noah himself didn't know where she was) he would move her to the 70s, where she would be raised by a watchmaker for some reason! Well, it's kind of too confusing even for this series!
@ultralord: I agree, she caused a clear negative only in this series, before I had no such feeling towards her, even more, I even sympathized with her.
Everyone in my house hates Katarina. What a redneck, just disgusting. And don't say it's about her losses. She's been horrible and nasty since high school. Breaking into someone else's house, breaking a window, attacking Jonas. Just what?? Why doesn't anyone put her in her place? And she can beat Regina and humiliate Hannah over and over again. No empathy at all for her or Ulrich. I feel sorry for everyone, but I look at them and think they deserve it.
@Tahiri: well, that is, if some left-handed bearded man were to come to your 15-16-year-old daughter, would you just calmly discuss everything with him and tell him "hey, you can't do that"? In my house (where I am the only viewer), Katarina is the only character who reacts to what is happening as a living person, and not like, "well, OK, here are all my brothers-grandchildren-nephews, shtosh."
@Tahiri: on Katarina's part, the question about the man and the 15-year-old girl is still valid (and not really in the law). You can be aggressive and spoil the furniture, or you can be non-aggressive in appearance, but spoil the lives of other people, there is also a difference. Imho, Katarina is still the most adequate in this whole carousel.
@sabjulia: moreover, she only found out that her son is the husband of her husband's mistress, and her daughter and her forty-year-old grandson are sick. it's good to sit in a chair in front of the monitor and say "what, talk down." a living character.
@sabjulia: Oh, by the way, I also really liked her reaction to the story about time travel - you all went head over heels here, and I'm leaving, an extremely realistic reaction
@sabjulia: I agree) She also causes me the most understanding. Like Ulrich, she has a very short temper. As a teenager, she is very unpleasant, a redneck, but in her adult form she reacts somehow logically. The son disappeared first, then the husband cheats, the husband disappeared, all this mess with the movements...
@Tahiri: Oh my God, yes!!! Otherwise, everyone just hates Hannah, it's unclear why... Katarina is really a redneck character. She belongs in a mental hospital with Ulrich!
It's not clear to Hannah what they're hating for? Indeed, she is an angel, as Ulrich put it, a lamb) That in childhood she slandered Ulrich, that in adulthood she left him behind bars calmly, although she knew that he did not kill anyone
We are not talking about Ulrich now, but about Hannah. At that moment, she did not know that Ulrich had maimed someone, but she still left him to fend for himself in an alien time. This is the first thing. Secondly, since Ulrich mutilated the child, then the punishment should be appropriate for him, and not for several murders. He could have been executed if he hadn't been considered crazy. But that didn't stop Hannah.
It seems to me that the only one who did not deserve what was happening is Jonas. The rest are all hiding something from each other, lying, doing nasty things, and then, accordingly, paying for it. Jonas's father committed suicide - the fact that he was passing by is quite understandable. However, I can not understand in any way why in the movies people always speak in half-hints. By 2019, it's starting to get a little annoying, people don't talk like that in real life. Maybe, of course, everything is different in small towns, but somehow it's hard to believe that everyone does everything one by one and constantly doesn't say anything. Only by the end of season 2, something began to change, and then - no one listens to anyone anyway, and no one believes anyone.
@freddie_dark: "However, I can't understand in any way why in the movies people are constantly talking in half-hints. " is that really what someone thinks too, I'm furiously throwing up) and which of these moments do you remember the most?
@freddie_dark: there are such people in real life, in one branch of my relatives, the whole family speaks only in half-hints, to the question "how are you?" they give out a whole rebus. They are terribly annoying, it takes half an hour for a dialogue that would take five minutes at most, until they give out all their hints.
Hannah is just something with something. Trash of an exorbitant scope. She was not lazy, she was not afraid to cross temporary borders alone in order to further punish the man who abandoned her. I saw that his situation was not sugar, so no – you need to "poke your finger into an open wound", but harder. In whom only such an infection was born. I already have mixed emotions about Noah, there is something in him (especially after it turned out that his daughter would be more important to him than Adam), but I feel that I will fiercely dislike Hannah until the end of the series, because she is an impenetrable viper.
Claudia, like Jonas, at the right time at the right hour, alas, everything is on schedule. It is very sad to watch how they all sincerely think /believe that they are doing the right thing in a new way, but in fact they continue to stupidly follow the path they have outlined.
@ilpassetto: Well, by the way, I assume that Hannah had in mind the option of getting Ulrich out. If he hadn't started to remember anyone at all, and he was there and asked about Katarina, and even about his children, Hannah was clearly uncomfortable to hear, although this is generally a normal question
@OhneName: yeah, did she really think that he would be very happy with her, but he wouldn't give a fuck about the family he'd lived with all his life and wouldn't even remember)) And Ulrich was so pathetic when he shouted at her that he "loved her", if only she would get him out.
I feel sorry for Jonas while he was traveling through time and trying to save everyone (how many? In 2019, he was 16 years old, and now - 40?), Martha remained the only woman in his life, and even at the beginning of the series, being an old man, he sees Martha in the chair opposite, who never seems destined to grow up. What else will happen to this man that he will lose faith and turn into a disfigured old man?
@drowsy: this is generally a brain explosion, to be honest) I also watched the age of this actor yesterday and noticeably fucked up, well, he looks obviously younger)
The whole episode was a disaster, as usual, but the last scene somehow made my heart feel especially tight: I don't want to believe it in any way, but it seems that from this moment on Jonas changes his ideals and goals towards the Adamovs. When you stop trying to fix something, and just follow the path of all adult travelers - to meet with young versions of yourself and guide them on the path that takes time, harsh and merciless. But I really want to be wrong) well, Hannah - oh my God - is my personal kind of villains, the lady will clearly be marked for centuries. In general, I revealed one of the favorite horror movie techniques for this series: to show a supposedly settled world, and at the end to throw in a phrase or a cunning monster grin to hint that this was just the beginning and Freddie would be back. And I really like it, Lois.
So far, everything is going exactly as it has been repeated many, many times. Will Jonas be able to change something, will at least one hero act in a way that has never been repeated before? Hannah's a bitch, of course. Let's see what the writers have in store for her next!
it's a pity for Claudia that she and Jonas/Adam hung out together, it's not for nothing that this is all, something will be even tougher than just just evil Adam and kind Claudia or maybe , well, Hannah is sick of unrequited love. it's easier for her to live and think that Ulrich will never get to anyone and will die like that. I wonder if Katarina will come to Ulrich's rescue and give this Hannah a hard time
@MissChristin: I wonder if Katarina will come to Ulrich's rescue and pepper this Hannah ----------------------------------------------------------- Unfortunately, they showed us old Ulrich in the hospital, so in the fifties no one will definitely save him in the current version of reality (it is also unknown if another is possible)
Oh, yes, these hints about another reality frighten me🙈 I hope that if it really exists, then it will also be explained and shown as logically as possible, and not merge the plot
For some reason, I immediately realized that she had just gone to make sure that Ulrich was having a hard time and, plus, to annoy him even more with her appearance. Trample on a budding hope. Destroy him morally. The revenge of women who were simply taken advantage of is terrible.
I'm the only one who's mad that Ulrich was locked up without evidence, trial, or investigation. I agree that he's a murky character for a 53-year-old. But where's the evidence? Where's the court?? Naaa you got a life sentence!
And about Alexander, the head of the NPP, not a single comment. Isn't anyone already wondering who he is and why he was added? How did it fall from the sky ? What 's going on in general
Well, first of all, he was caught covered in blood, and secondly, he himself said that he killed Helga and a lot of other crazy stuff. Another question is that Helga is back.
@valery7040: Well, he was locked up, it's easier in this situation. Of course, he was wildly stupid from the moment he appeared at that time, if he had acted more adequately, then in theory he had a small chance of moving out of this case. That's how he realized in a conversation with Hannah that he should say "I love you, I'm leaving Katarina" (although it didn't help already), and from the very beginning it was necessary to come up with an adequate version for the police, and not alternate silence with vague phrases.
I'll add to SantaJul's comment that in the first season, some character in 86 said something similar: "now, in order to imprison a person, we need evidence. It's not what it used to be." So apparently, yes, there was enough circumstantial evidence in 52
Hannah is really a bitch, so much shit is coming from her, it's unbelievable. And after all, she will survive the apocalypse - she fell in 1954. Jonas is the second such initiate, and she doesn't know that his mother is a bitch yet (I want to believe that Hannah is waiting for well-deserved karma and she will definitely get all her shit back.
It seems like the apocalypse will happen regardless of the year. After all, we were shown different years every time, but the subtitles always showed the days before the apocalypse inexorably decreasing.
Everyone is hitting on Hannah like Ulrik is an angel with wings. Yes, she's been acting ugly and wrong all this time, but damn, he's good too. When he slept with her, he could see perfectly well that she was crazy about him, and he was messing with her head. Again, it was possible to break up with her more gently.
@EllenSomeone: but you must admit that Ulrich's act towards Hannah was not even close to Hannah's act towards Ulrich, it turns out that Hannah's broken heart is against Ulrich's broken life. She fucked up with him so much in his youth that he was almost sent away for rape, so they were even, she could have sent the man home, and she stayed at this time, since she had nothing to do in her time. And what a broken heart, just hurt self-esteem.
I'm by no means justifying Hannah, but it seems to me that at first she really loved Ulrich, but then this love turned into something terrible, vaguely similar to a bright feeling. It grew and grew until Hannah turned into a monster. After all, more than 33 years have passed.
@Otoha20: no need to defend Ulrich, he cheated on his wife on the wedding anniversary) and did it for another 1 year - apparently he didn't like Hannah, he liked that a lady was pining for him
Love was initially terrible if, as a child, for the sake of this "love" she decided to put him in prison, and to disgrace the families of both lovers to some extent with such a scandal.
@EllenSomeone: Madam, since childhood she has been a lying bitch who maliciously slandered people with an angelic face, as she was a disgusting scum, and has remained. Ulrich is not an angel either, but all we know is that he succumbed to the voice of the lower brain. An unpleasant weakness, it does not paint him, but at least he is not evil
Hannah's suchness is growing every season, with her appearance in 53, now I'm even more worried about the guys in this time interval, they didn't have enough troubles, so Hannah fell on her head. Egon, run! But watching all this whistling is insanely interesting, even though the heart sometimes aches.
@namo: but Doris has already given birth to Claudia , but Hannah may well become a mother to herself, because we don't know anything about the mother of little Hannah xD
In general, I don't give a shit about Jonas, he's been living quietly in the 20th year and doesn't do anything, what does that mean? Is his journey over? Is it up to young Jonas now?
@neewdaay: if we are talking about a morgue employee who got into the frame in 1954 (the date was shown before the scene), then he rather resembles the cop Clausen himself, and at about the same age, rather than his brother from the photo. Alexander disappeared in 1986. I can't imagine how it would all look in the prehistory, if a friend from 54 was the same brother. On the other hand, it is also hard to believe in mere coincidences. Just not in this series. (=
It seems to me that the cop's brother is the guy Regina told to do research on the substance in the capsule. She also told him not to tell anyone. And he probably did all the research and then disappeared. Most likely, someone helped him to disappear in Winden.
To me, he looked more like the man who was killed with an axe by young Noah in episode 1 of season 2. They look very similar, but of course it would be strange if he turned out to be a follower of Adam for a while.
@neewdaay: and I thought that this was a relative of the detective from 2020, but I did not connect that it could be his brother, a really good version.
@Sam_Milkovich: I really liked her in the first episodes outwardly, at first I thought she would sympathize with me, and as the character began to reveal herself, the actress began to disgust me... But this only confirms the skill of the actress, as it should have happened :)
Please remind me - where did the adult Helge go? He said, "I remembered," got dressed, and ran back into the woods, even watching someone from behind a tree in the first season. What's next for him?
He went to the caves and moved to 1986, where he wanted to kill the "average" himself by driving into a car in order to stop experimenting with abducted children. In the end, Helge from ‘86 survived, and Helge the old man died.
What a bitch Hannah is, just a complete bitch! I collected the coins and moved back to gloat over poor Ulrich and stay to live a new life and make eyes at the next married man.
I regret that I did not start watching it earlier. although I've been reading about him for a long time. I didn't expect this. really the best TV series I've ever seen in my life
Everyone writes about Hannah, but it seemed to me that Claudia is really a white devil, of course, and Hannah acted terribly, just inappropriately. The tinctures are mean But Claudia also wanted to do better, and it turned out I feel very sorry for her father and the fact that he figured it out too late.
Hannah and Katarina are standing by each other. One is an absolute egotist and a total bitch, the other is an unstable hysterical woman and a total bitch. And Martha is just like her mother. A trio who always want to be punched in the head. Well, teenagers are such teenagers. They always don't think with their heads. Teens: Why don't you tell us anything?! Parents: This is not something that children should decide. WE NEED TO TALK. Teens: * reflect and do shit * WE DON'T SEE YOU * Slam the door and run away to keep doing shit*
What the hell are you doing, Claudia? I'm so sorry about Egon :(
And finally, what does Jonas the average do? He's kind of all relaxed. Well, their love line with Marta is just ridiculous. It's clear that this is Jonas' first and only relationship, but it's NOTHING.
@AndreRowell: despite the fact that Katarina tried to talk to them, to tell them about the cave, but Marta rejected her harshly. At that moment, Katarina herself still did not know much, but she wanted to tell something.
@Crystal_Witch: I don't think there's any escape here. He's having problems with his wife, and he's so naive. Most likely, his wife will find out and she will have a formal reason to leave him.
He didn't deserve to end up like this at the hands of his own daughter. It was only now that I realized what the older version of Claudia was asking for. But it was soooo unexpected for me, this scene just brought me to tears. Before you die, compare everything and understand that there are travelers and nuclear power plants, and that's all connected... It's terrible, Egon is forever in my heart.
P.S. I like both the younger and older versions of the wonderful Egon .p.s.I finally sang an ode to the wonderful hero, I will continue to worry about him, otherwise Hannah stuck to him like a leech 😩
Jonas and Claudia are still a tandem - one can be said to be to blame for the death of his father (if he had not come to him, he would not have hanged himself), the second stupidly killed her own, interesting. My poor Ulrich, my heart is bleeding.
And I got so emotional that I can't tell you back... I just got into it. I was filled with my first love, pure and tender, carried through my whole life, so inaccessible, wrong. I was imbued with Egon's integrity (that's a wonderful character), all his pain and love. And I was so scared when he lay there and died, wheezing... I was imbued with Hannah's bitchiness and her selfishness. I was inspired by the possible future that could be after such views on the young Egon. In general, this episode was full of emotions and filled me with feelings. And I also thought... Or maybe, after all, Claudia is an inescapable evil here? Who kills everyone in his path to save his only happiness.
I thought about it too! Maybe the main villain is Grandma Claudia! I sincerely want to believe that Egon was right in the last seconds of his life and revealed the real white devil (Claudia was also wearing a white shirt at that moment!)
I'm willing to bet on that. It's hard to separate the desire to be better than someone from the desire to be with that person, given that she's a complex, multi-layered character who really wasn't interested in much other than herself.
Hannah has been proudly holding the bar for the main scourge of the series for the second season! We are following the development of events and waiting for what she will do next.
Everyone is pushing Hannah, but I like her. The only thing I don't understand is how you can give up on your son. I keep hoping that she loves her son and somehow loved her husband. Or Jonas is right, and she doesn't love anyone but herself... It's sad, but nevertheless, the character is great. I feel sorry for Ulrich, it was cruel, but he also did terrible things. There are no perfect characters in this story (except maybe Mikkel), but Martha is the only one that pisses me off all the time. So far, everything is going exactly as it should be: by trying to change the past, the characters are creating the future they are running from.
I'm not the only one who gets a lot of encouragement from Marta this season! Hannah is beyond competition, of course. But Martha is also gaining momentum.
When Egon started staying at home, you start thinking that he's going to die in front of his daughter, but the details are shocking...As a result, Claudia is responsible for her father's death. At first glance, after these events, it seems that Claudia is more antagonistic than Adam, given that the adult Jonas said that she manipulated him, but it's hardly that obvious, the same Noah as an example. In short, the denouement is pizdetski interesting, I can't already aaaaaaah
@negr: Damn, it was funny how she interpreted the words of herself from the future about accepting victims. Like, hmm, leaving Dad without help looks like a sacrifice - sold! I didn't understand their conflict at all, since such a game is happening, why wouldn't she share all the information with him? Like a beloved father is not a candidate for this? Moreover, he brought it up himself. At least she would have discouraged him from trying to figure it out through the police. It's not a guarantee, of course, that he'll take it out, but could we at least try?
It seems to me that she herself wanted to fully understand what kind of substance was in the capsule. And then decide whether to speak or not. Claudia is such a perfectionist that until she does all the fact-checking, she will be partisan
It seems to me that the outcome will be so unpredictable that the real evil will be someone like a gay prostitute, but seriously. What do we know about him?)
@Heisen_berg: well, or we were brilliantly scripted by a cold bitch who, even as a little girl, was already coldly slandering everyone, as long as it was as she wanted. And even the adult Jonas was disappointed in her, although he thought that at least his mother could be trusted.
Hmm, that is, Jonas and Claudia moved from June 21, 2019 to June 21, 1986, Jonas lived in this time until June 26, 1987 (at that time, Claudia probably instructed him and told him what he should do). He needs the current Claudia for the sake of the car to return in 2020. Well, most likely Claudia will be stuck in 2020, because newspaper clippings about the disappearance of Claudia-87 have already been shown.
By the way, if old Claudia had fragments from the book, or the book itself (which describes all the events), she could well have shown them to Jonas. Accordingly, Adam should know that Noah lied to him about Claudia not having any scraps.
Many people don't understand why heroes start doing what they need to do instead of acting in a new way.
And here's the explanation. Claudia tried to prevent everything and it seemed to her that everything was going differently, but no. She did everything right by herself.
Jonas tried to stop his father's suicide and caused it himself.
They directly show that it is impossible to do otherwise. It gives me goosebumps.
I knew she'd kill him herself... The future created itself. Information about the future launched this future Kapets If we don't know the future, that's the only way we have a choice.
Kind people, remind me, when and who first mentioned the White Devil? Egon was already running around with him in 1953, who told him about the White Devil?
How the girls in the comments hate Hannah (and the rest hate Katarina). It rhymes with the opening of this series about emotions and humanity. In this series, of course, it became 100% justified, but I read the same comments to the previous series. And while watching this episode, I started to think that it was spoilers, but no.
Hannah's journey to Ulrich is one of the blackest trollings in history!
In the last episode, Jonas tried to save his dad - in the end, he pushed him to commit suicide. In this one, Claudia tried to protect her father - in the end, she killed him herself. "Everything has to go the way it should"... Bitch, this series is tearing my mind apart!
Judging by the looks that Hannah and young Egon exchanged, these two will have a love line. Perhaps it is his relationship with Hannah that will become one of the reasons why his wife will leave Egon.
I remembered Ulrich telling a young Egon how worthless he was and how his wife had left him (if I'm not mistaken, what kind of Egon was this dialogue with). And now I see - they both stepped on the same rake along the way. literally.
@Mrs___OBrien: Also noted :D I wanted to write a comment about this, but you beat me to it. The poor guy reschedules meetings with the French delegation for the millionth time)))))
Meeting Marta and Jonas just broke my heart. I feel terribly sorry for them. How did Hannah figure out how to get to 54 instead of 87? Did Jonas have time to teach her? I felt sorry for Egon too. Very! When I first saw him at 86, I rather disliked him. But how his character was revealed! He turned out to be a normal guy. And I didn't really understand why Claudia said that it was necessary to leave it as it was so that Regina would survive? I wonder what her future development will be. How she will come to become a white devil. And what does it mean anyway?) More about Hannah. She was very mean to Ulrich. I don't want to judge Ulrich. His attempted murder of a child haunts me. But in this scene, I felt sorry for him. And yet, did it seem to me, or did a spark run between Egon and Hannah at 54?) From small things. We found out that the trans kid's name is Benny) Well, I feel sorry for Claudia's secretary)))))
So we found out the real reason for the inspector's arrival in the city. It is his personal motivation (the pain of loss and the desire to find his brother) that makes him dig his nose into the ground. Another intrigue. I wonder which way the scriptwriters will spin this plot with my brother. Will they leave everything in the usual criminal plane? Or will they also send their lost brother along the path of time travelers?
Hannah. She's certainly not stupid. She dressed in the style of the 50s, grabbed her suitcase and, well, I think she's doing great, despite the fact that the man deeply insulted her, abandoned her, rushed to save Ulrich (I don't understand how they choose which year to get into with the help of a time machine. Is it possible to select the year when starting the machine?). And here is the meeting of Hannah and Ulrich. And everything falls into place. Hannah bluntly says that this is not how she imagined their meeting, that Ulrich had to choose between her and Katarina. Initially, her plan was simple: she comes to Ulrich, hears words of eternal gratitude and love from him, feels a sense of triumph, takes Ulrich and returns with him to 2020. Katarina is defeated (victory is nothing if she cannot demonstrate it and enjoy it in her own time). Ulrich gave up on himself with questions about his family. Now I'm thinking, whose other lives and destinies will Hannah destroy with a suitcase? The poison from 2020 got into 1954. The infection is spreading.
Jonas and Marta. The most ambiguous storyline in the series for me. As for me, Jonas is the most tragic character (after little Mikel, of course). And when I like a character, there is empathy, empathy, I want to see a decent (in my opinion, of course) woman next to him. And it's not easy for screenwriters to please me in this sense. Why I don't really like Martha, starting from season 1, I can't fully explain to myself. Yes, I remind myself, she is a teenager, yes, in the grief that fell on her family, she was more fixated on herself (she did not want to support Katarina, left Bartosz, who was experiencing Regina's illness, her reactions to certain events, etc.). On the other hand, I understand that for Jonas Marta is the first love It is only for her sake that he wants to change everything (she is his guiding star). It is not for nothing that Adam and Claudia, in an attempt to convince Jonas to do this and not otherwise, always use Martha as the last argument. And it always works. His loyalty to his feelings is worthy of respect. And in the case of Martha, although I have no direct evidence, but only subjective feelings, I intuitively believe in the strength of her feelings with difficulty. Therefore, hearing Jonas's phrase "we were created for each other" from time to time, I force myself not to get upset about this (the screenwriters apparently do not provide another girl in his life), reassuring myself that the screenwriters will come up with such a plot move for Martha that I will finally come to terms with the choice Jonas.
The series is one of those where "the further into the forest, the more firewood." The more the characters want to correct their own or someone else's mistakes, the more disastrous the consequences become. And it is no longer clear who started it all and where it should end.
PS. But sometimes it clearly seems to me that the main evil of the series is Hannah. You have to be able to be such a cold-blooded snake and at the same time pull the blanket over yourself in any terrible situation. Times are mixed up here, people are stuck anywhere, who is whose son, matchmaker and brother can only be understood after 3 glasses, her son is lost in time, but what is she worried about? "Will you choose me or Katarina???"...Woman, what the fuck? Where's your damn maternal instinct? While Katarina is ready to lay down her bones for her son, even though she has other children besides Mikkel, did you put a thick bolt on your only offspring and run to your lover to show again who the main bitch in the city is? Give her the Mother of the Year award already and let's go.
Yeah. And now she's probably picking on another guy. And it's probably going to break Egon's family. As we remember, Ulrich said during the arrest, "are you already drinking or will you start after your wife leaves you?" if he drank, it means he didn't leave her himself and didn't stay with Hannah, since we don't see her in the 80s and he lives alone. That's interesting... But young Egon is an incredibly handsome actor. Oh, those Aryans
@Lenkaptitsa: And I think he won't drink because his wife will leave him, they already had nothing in common except a child! And after the affair with Hannah: such fatalities completely take out the brain of someone as naive as Egon!
And how did Egon manage to live to an old age without ever traveling through time? And he's probably not much of a cop-it wasn't until the very end that he started sniffing out what was going on in the city.
@Expert explanation: well, no one told him about it, unlike many) It's like from some kind of fantastic story, and it's hard to believe, especially if you take not the current time, but when he was young back in the 20th century. Back then, a nuclear power plant was something that was hard to believe in, let alone time travel... At the same time, he noticed all the connections and wanted to get to the truth.
Poor Egan, a good-natured, simple, but a little naive man who only realized everything before he died. I assumed that Claudia would see him die in the apartment, that's why she was in such a hurry, but it turned out that she would kill him herself. Hannah exists everywhere by herself. They didn't take care of her son, she didn't love her husband, and she was constantly plotting against everyone. Now it seems that she has decided to turn Egon's life into a nightmare.
When Hannah stole the time machine, the thought flashed through my mind: "Who are you going to go to? To Ulrich or his own son?" There was no doubt that it was to Ulrich. And it made it so hard, to be honest. I understand that she doesn't know where her son is. And fuck you, how to look for him in such conditions. But at least Katarina is trying to find out something about Mikkel. And Hannah's son is wandering, suffering, but she's not interested in helping him. She's seen a bunch of scars on his older version, and she understands that he's going to have to go through so much shit that it's scary. But it's not him who's going to try to save Hannah anyway. It's like I expected her to do something like that. But he still breaks my heart.
After all this time, I've already managed to forget what a bitch Hannah is! I thought I was on the mend.... and nnnet, as she was a scum, remained so.... She went to someone else's man and what did she want to hear the answer, what did she want? What's in the head of such women anyway?! I feel sorry for Ulrich, he's in deep trouble. It's not clear what's going on, everyone knows now, everyone has devices))) Was this the way it was originally intended? After all, while everything is converging, or will something start to change with their movements?
What an unpleasant mom Jonas is. It's necessary... Go back in time just to shit on your lover. I laughed at Katerina's daughter's story about the family ties of their family. I'm waiting for them to finally change something in the present, past or future.
@MARxLENin: there's nothing to worry about, ALL THE SACRIFICES are just for the sake of "if everything works out, then Regina will live" [despite the fact that she has cancer](c) X_X Fucking, I really hope that this was an accidental slip of the tongue and not half of the motivation for this whole action. Kill half the city because someone believes that "if everything works out" the cancer will magically evaporate X_X The most I can think of is not to build a nuclear power plant, but in all this *time* Claudia has not tried to prevent its construction with a single action. Everything else is bullshit + she's not even sure if she can do it.
I hope Jonas will be able to throw this grandmother off the bend, as well as all this religiously driven nonsense that is like "not a sect, but a sect."
Palova Seri did not perastavala dzivitsa Tamu, yakaya myarzota Hanna. Geta treba yashche so passeprabavats. In her ESC Hotz yakiya chalavechyya factary? Ulrykha ratavats Traba, and she is important, Kago en vybray would.
I believe in Hannah's obsessive love for Ulrich for so many years. She just had nothing to do in this town, so she nurtured that childish feeling. I don't believe in the love of Jonas and Marta at all. Does a dude's life have a continuous apocalypse, a bunch of events, traumas that change and shape him, and he's still pining for that one? How sad-a pleasant echo of the past, yes. As a goal and a strong sincere feeling after 30 years, and even more so 66 - no.
And Ulrich, who paid for his vehemence at 53. Here, the vehemence is understandable, but to live for 30 years in a psychiatric hospital and not realize his mistakes, not learn to control himself? If you are unable to change, then your fate is unenviable.
I feel very sorry for Egon. Simple, naive, but Kind and honest. If at least a quarter of the people in their town were the same, then these events would not have happened.
Teenagers are like teenagers :) And then you start thinking: if you break the time, how will they learn to be different and understand why not everything should/can be dumped on children?
I don't know, Hannah is crazy, but she has a lot of weight in the plot. Katarina is the same. And what is the equally infuriating Martha for? For Jonas to be in love with her? And Bartosz?Jonas has been through so much that the last thing he should be suffering about is this girl. If you don't pay attention to this "luboff through time", then the series is gorgeous. I try to remember everything (who, to whom, when, by whom) without using hints, so it makes me strain my brain even more)) PS well, who is the transgender person from the trailer? Who is he/and who is he, and what role does he play in all this?)
@Quе_: Jonas gets to have the closest relationship of his life, this luboff. He's a schoolboy, a teenager, his father hanged himself, his mother is a cold herring, she also whistled to her lover with his suitcase, he had to survive in different times, he didn't have time to see anything good in his life((
I had an abnormal theory, and what if Hannah now gets together with someone in 1953 and eventually Katarina is born, because in one of the episodes Katarina had a black eye and said that her mother beat her. At all times , it takes its toll on her 😅
You can call Hannah bad words, but in this episode she acts like a schizophrenic maniac with a completely amputated empathy for people (like real maniacs). And the fact that she hasn't killed anyone with her own hand in 40 years of her life - well, it just happened that there aren't many people in Viden, there's nowhere to roam. The actions of the other characters are often annoying, dishonest, thoughtless and even inadequate in places, but quite humane. They can be discussed and argued about. Hannah is the ultimate sadist.
@NatashCHa: And what exactly is this apocalypse? What will it look like? Does anyone have even a vague idea?) And finally, what exactly is the purpose of Adam and his sect? All this rant about management is bullshitting on vegetable oil, because space and time are inseparable! It is a single whole and it is impossible even in theory to control one without having control over the other! And this is already a fierce nonsense it turns out! And I would knock Hannah on the forehead with a hammer))
Hannah's act is the last thing this creature can do. Hadn't Claudia, after going through all this crap, decided to at least prevent her father's death?
Everything is really confusing and my brain is already on fire. All these timelines, lots of identical characters, lots and lots of puzzles. And of course, I'm already confused about who to believe here and who to kill. Everyone is very secretive and cunning, really everyone has skeletons in their closet. Everything is too interesting and I can't stop watching the series.
For some reason, the thought arose that a one-eyed policeman (like Weller) could be the real Alexander Koehler, looks like a photograph. It's not too much revealed, but he's apparently close to Tideman and it seems like he might know something, so far his role in all this is unclear.
Hannah is in shock. As a child, Ulrich's life was ruined. Now she rushed to him, deceived and abandoned her son, who disappeared in order to take revenge on his ex. I was probably going to help, but when I realized that he missed his family more, I left him there. He's a traitor, of course, but he doesn't deserve all this shit. And now she's taken on Egon, and she won't rest until she's slept with everyone. 🤦♀️
Jonas, a poor boy who didn't have time to grow up and is stuck on time, didn't even finish school, wasn't close to anyone except his first girlfriend, lost his father 💔 Ulrich, who lost all his children at once and is forced to live in a mental hospital 💔 Egon's death at the hands of his own daughter is terrible, as long as he is the most positive adult character 💔
No matter what they do, no matter how they try to change the past, they only create just such a variant of the future.
The theme of the children's room is somehow not disclosed at all.
Everyone is wandering back and forth in time, a passageway, not a cave, as they don't bump into each other there. All kinds of people come, and then the children disappear 😀
What a pity for Egon. I think he was a good person, he just didn't understand what was going on, and unfortunately, his naivety obviously didn't help him at all. It's a pity that I realized everything very late and suffered at the hands of my own daughter.😩😢
Discussion: Season 2, Episode 7 Join the Discussion
285That's the point of the series, as far as I'm concerned, that you can't fix the past.
And here is a completely different thing. That a person does not live in a three-dimensional but a four-dimensional world. That he exists simultaneously in the past, present and future. It's just hard for us to understand.
On the one hand, it's sad. I am not a fan of fatalism. But on the other hand, those who have left us may still exist somewhere)
That's not for nothing that I go to read comments)
Pzdts, even such details are thought out!
Someone save Ulrich. He clearly didn't deserve all that was happening to him.
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Her reaction is generally normal. It's just that she was shown to us in a variety of situations - and she really behaved like a redneck in those where it was not justified, so everyone treats her accordingly.
During her school years, she just behaved wildly, plus beating Regina was not a topic at all.
I can well imagine my headmistress with a tire iron in someone else's house..But it's only me who's so lucky.
Anyway, of the two mothers - Katarina and Hannah - I am impressed by the first one, who is ready to dig through caves and draw a map just to find her son. Who will break into all the offices and ask questions right in the forehead. Imho, in such a situation it is difficult to reproach a person with excessively harsh behavior, this is despair (although I do not deny that in her youth she was a redneck).
And about Regina - well, she asked for it, remember what she said to Katarina in front of her own children.
And I also feel sorry for Egon. He was too kind and naive, he probably believed some common truths, so he understood everything late. He, like Mikkel and Ulrich, does not have the happiest fate.
There is a kanesh option that Noah will knock her up right now at 54 and then somehow someone (Adam? Because Noah himself didn't know where she was) he would move her to the 70s, where she would be raised by a watchmaker for some reason! Well, it's kind of too confusing even for this series!
In my house (where I am the only viewer), Katarina is the only character who reacts to what is happening as a living person, and not like, "well, OK, here are all my brothers-grandchildren-nephews, shtosh."
Imho, Katarina is still the most adequate in this whole carousel.
That in childhood she slandered Ulrich, that in adulthood she left him behind bars calmly, although she knew that he did not kill anyone
At that moment, she did not know that Ulrich had maimed someone, but she still left him to fend for himself in an alien time. This is the first thing.
Secondly, since Ulrich mutilated the child, then the punishment should be appropriate for him, and not for several murders. He could have been executed if he hadn't been considered crazy.
But that didn't stop Hannah.
However, I can not understand in any way why in the movies people always speak in half-hints. By 2019, it's starting to get a little annoying, people don't talk like that in real life. Maybe, of course, everything is different in small towns, but somehow it's hard to believe that everyone does everything one by one and constantly doesn't say anything. Only by the end of season 2, something began to change, and then - no one listens to anyone anyway, and no one believes anyone.
and which of these moments do you remember the most?
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Claudia, like Jonas, at the right time at the right hour, alas, everything is on schedule. It is very sad to watch how they all sincerely think /believe that they are doing the right thing in a new way, but in fact they continue to stupidly follow the path they have outlined.
Well, by the way, I assume that Hannah had in mind the option of getting Ulrich out. If he hadn't started to remember anyone at all, and he was there and asked about Katarina, and even about his children, Hannah was clearly uncomfortable to hear, although this is generally a normal question
We only got a glimpse of her father, but even then it's unclear what kind of character he is.
What else will happen to this man that he will lose faith and turn into a disfigured old man?
https://youtu.be/Bh1XRH4HrOY
In general, I revealed one of the favorite horror movie techniques for this series: to show a supposedly settled world, and at the end to throw in a phrase or a cunning monster grin to hint that this was just the beginning and Freddie would be back. And I really like it, Lois.
Hannah's a bitch, of course. Let's see what the writers have in store for her next!
that she and Jonas/Adam hung out together, it's not for nothing that this is all, something will be even tougher than just just evil Adam and kind Claudia or maybe
, well, Hannah is sick of unrequited love. it's easier for her to live and think that Ulrich will never get to anyone and will die
like that. I wonder if Katarina will come to Ulrich's rescue and give this Hannah a hard time
I wonder if Katarina will come to Ulrich's rescue and pepper this Hannah
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Unfortunately, they showed us old Ulrich in the hospital, so in the fifties no one will definitely save him in the current version of reality (it is also unknown if another is possible)
I hope that if it really exists, then it will also be explained and shown as logically as possible, and not merge the plot
Naaa you got a life sentence!
And about Alexander, the head of the NPP, not a single comment. Isn't anyone already wondering who he is and why he was added? How did it fall from the sky ? What 's going on in general
After all, we were shown different years every time, but the subtitles always showed the days before the apocalypse inexorably decreasing.
But watching all this whistling is insanely interesting, even though the heart sometimes aches.
, but Hannah may well become a mother to herself, because we don't know anything about the mother of little Hannah xD
He covered old Claudia with a sheet
He really looks like his brother
The tinctures are mean
But Claudia also wanted to do better, and it turned out
I feel very sorry for her father and the fact that he figured it out too late.
Well, teenagers are such teenagers. They always don't think with their heads.
Teens: Why don't you tell us anything?!
Parents: This is not something that children should decide. WE NEED TO TALK.
Teens: * reflect and do shit * WE DON'T SEE YOU * Slam the door and run away to keep doing shit*
What the hell are you doing, Claudia?
I'm so sorry about Egon :(
And finally, what does Jonas the average do? He's kind of all relaxed. Well, their love line with Marta is just ridiculous. It's clear that this is Jonas' first and only relationship, but it's NOTHING.
P.S. I like both the younger and older versions of the wonderful Egon
.p.s.I finally sang an ode to the wonderful hero, I will continue to worry about him, otherwise Hannah stuck to him like a leech 😩
Naive Egon will definitely not get away from Hannah's shark))
I was imbued with Hannah's bitchiness and her selfishness. I was inspired by the possible future that could be after such views on the young Egon.
In general, this episode was full of emotions and filled me with feelings.
And I also thought... Or maybe, after all, Claudia is an inescapable evil here? Who kills everyone in his path to save his only happiness.
There are no perfect characters in this story (except maybe Mikkel), but Martha is the only one that pisses me off all the time.
So far, everything is going exactly as it should be: by trying to change the past, the characters are creating the future they are running from.
In short, the denouement is pizdetski interesting, I can't already aaaaaaah
By the way, if old Claudia had fragments from the book, or the book itself (which describes all the events), she could well have shown them to Jonas. Accordingly, Adam should know that Noah lied to him about Claudia not having any scraps.
And here's the explanation. Claudia tried to prevent everything and it seemed to her that everything was going differently, but no. She did everything right by herself.
Jonas tried to stop his father's suicide and caused it himself.
They directly show that it is impossible to do otherwise. It gives me goosebumps.
Bartosz is too reminiscent of Adam....
Maybe Adam deceived Jonas.
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If we don't know the future, that's the only way we have a choice.
In this series, of course, it became 100% justified, but I read the same comments to the previous series. And while watching this episode, I started to think that it was spoilers, but no.
To make fun of an ex-boyfriend.
This is a new level!
I really wanted to smash her crappy face into the cage!
I'm sorry for the emotions
In the last episode, Jonas tried to save his dad - in the end, he pushed him to commit suicide. In this one, Claudia tried to protect her father - in the end, she killed him herself.
"Everything has to go the way it should"...
Bitch, this series is tearing my mind apart!
I wanted to write a comment about this, but you beat me to it.
The poor guy reschedules meetings with the French delegation for the millionth time)))))
Also, the French are waiting out there somewhere, while Claudia jumps from time to time and sends her father to his forefathers!
How did Hannah figure out how to get to 54 instead of 87? Did Jonas have time to teach her?
I felt sorry for Egon too. Very! When I first saw him at 86, I rather disliked him. But how his character was revealed! He turned out to be a normal guy.
And I didn't really understand why Claudia said that it was necessary to leave it as it was so that Regina would survive? I wonder what her future development will be. How she will come to become a white devil. And what does it mean anyway?)
More about Hannah. She was very mean to Ulrich. I don't want to judge Ulrich. His attempted murder of a child haunts me. But in this scene, I felt sorry for him. And yet, did it seem to me, or did a spark run between Egon and Hannah at 54?)
From small things. We found out that the trans kid's name is Benny) Well, I feel sorry for Claudia's secretary)))))
It is his personal motivation (the pain of loss and the desire to find his brother) that makes him dig his nose into the ground. Another intrigue.
I wonder which way the scriptwriters will spin this plot with my brother. Will they leave everything in the usual criminal plane? Or will they also send their lost brother along the path of time travelers?
And here is the meeting of Hannah and Ulrich. And everything falls into place.
Hannah bluntly says that this is not how she imagined their meeting, that Ulrich had to choose between her and Katarina.
Initially, her plan was simple: she comes to Ulrich, hears words of eternal gratitude and love from him, feels a sense of triumph, takes Ulrich and returns with him to 2020. Katarina is defeated (victory is nothing if she cannot demonstrate it and enjoy it in her own time).
Ulrich gave up on himself with questions about his family.
Now I'm thinking, whose other lives and destinies will Hannah destroy with a suitcase? The poison from 2020 got into 1954. The infection is spreading.
The most ambiguous storyline in the series for me.
As for me, Jonas is the most tragic character (after little Mikel, of course). And when I like a character, there is empathy, empathy, I want to see a decent (in my opinion, of course) woman next to him. And it's not easy for screenwriters to please me in this sense.
Why I don't really like Martha, starting from season 1, I can't fully explain to myself. Yes, I remind myself, she is a teenager, yes, in the grief that fell on her family, she was more fixated on herself (she did not want to support Katarina, left Bartosz, who was experiencing Regina's illness, her reactions to certain events, etc.).
On the other hand, I understand that for Jonas Marta is the first love It is only for her sake that he wants to change everything (she is his guiding star). It is not for nothing that Adam and Claudia, in an attempt to convince Jonas to do this and not otherwise, always use Martha as the last argument. And it always works. His loyalty to his feelings is worthy of respect. And in the case of Martha, although I have no direct evidence, but only subjective feelings, I intuitively believe in the strength of her feelings with difficulty.
Therefore, hearing Jonas's phrase "we were created for each other" from time to time, I force myself not to get upset about this (the screenwriters apparently do not provide another girl in his life), reassuring myself that the screenwriters will come up with such a plot move for Martha that I will finally come to terms with the choice Jonas.
PS. But sometimes it clearly seems to me that the main evil of the series is Hannah. You have to be able to be such a cold-blooded snake and at the same time pull the blanket over yourself in any terrible situation. Times are mixed up here, people are stuck anywhere, who is whose son, matchmaker and brother can only be understood after 3 glasses, her son is lost in time, but what is she worried about? "Will you choose me or Katarina???"...Woman, what the fuck? Where's your damn maternal instinct? While Katarina is ready to lay down her bones for her son, even though she has other children besides Mikkel, did you put a thick bolt on your only offspring and run to your lover to show again who the main bitch in the city is? Give her the Mother of the Year award already and let's go.
And I think he won't drink because his wife will leave him, they already had nothing in common except a child! And after the affair with Hannah: such fatalities completely take out the brain of someone as naive as Egon!
Hannah exists everywhere by herself. They didn't take care of her son, she didn't love her husband, and she was constantly plotting against everyone. Now it seems that she has decided to turn Egon's life into a nightmare.
I feel sorry for Ulrich, he's in deep trouble.
It's not clear what's going on, everyone knows now, everyone has devices))) Was this the way it was originally intended? After all, while everything is converging, or will something start to change with their movements?
I laughed at Katerina's daughter's story about the family ties of their family.
I'm waiting for them to finally change something in the present, past or future.
The most I can think of is not to build a nuclear power plant, but in all this *time* Claudia has not tried to prevent its construction with a single action. Everything else is bullshit + she's not even sure if she can do it.
I hope Jonas will be able to throw this grandmother off the bend, as well as all this religiously driven nonsense that is like "not a sect, but a sect."
I don't believe in the love of Jonas and Marta at all. Does a dude's life have a continuous apocalypse, a bunch of events, traumas that change and shape him, and he's still pining for that one? How sad-a pleasant echo of the past, yes. As a goal and a strong sincere feeling after 30 years, and even more so 66 - no.
And Ulrich, who paid for his vehemence at 53. Here, the vehemence is understandable, but to live for 30 years in a psychiatric hospital and not realize his mistakes, not learn to control himself? If you are unable to change, then your fate is unenviable.
I feel very sorry for Egon. Simple, naive, but Kind and honest. If at least a quarter of the people in their town were the same, then these events would not have happened.
Teenagers are like teenagers :) And then you start thinking: if you break the time, how will they learn to be different and understand why not everything should/can be dumped on children?
PS well, who is the transgender person from the trailer? Who is he/and who is he, and what role does he play in all this?)
The actions of the other characters are often annoying, dishonest, thoughtless and even inadequate in places, but quite humane. They can be discussed and argued about. Hannah is the ultimate sadist.
I am even more convinced that they will come to the apocalypse and will not change anything.
And what exactly is this apocalypse? What will it look like? Does anyone have even a vague idea?)
And finally, what exactly is the purpose of Adam and his sect? All this rant about management is bullshitting on vegetable oil, because space and time are inseparable! It is a single whole and it is impossible even in theory to control one without having control over the other! And this is already a fierce nonsense it turns out!
And I would knock Hannah on the forehead with a hammer))
Hadn't Claudia, after going through all this crap, decided to at least prevent her father's death?
But it was Hannah who annoyed me the most.…
Jonas, a poor boy who didn't have time to grow up and is stuck on time, didn't even finish school, wasn't close to anyone except his first girlfriend, lost his father 💔
Ulrich, who lost all his children at once and is forced to live in a mental hospital 💔
Egon's death at the hands of his own daughter is terrible, as long as he is the most positive adult character 💔
No matter what they do, no matter how they try to change the past, they only create just such a variant of the future.
The theme of the children's room is somehow not disclosed at all.
Everyone is wandering back and forth in time, a passageway, not a cave, as they don't bump into each other there. All kinds of people come, and then the children disappear 😀
It's a pity that I realized everything very late and suffered at the hands of my own daughter.😩😢