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The Witcher — s01e07 — Before a Fall

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Duration: 47 min.
Released: 20.12.201920.12.2019 09:00
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1 season
s01e07
s01e03 - Betrayer Moon
s01e04 - Of Banquets, Bastards and Burials
s01e05 - Bottled Appetites
s01e06 - Rare Species
s01e07 - Before a Fall
s01e08 - Much More
s01 special-1 - Making the Witcher
s02 special-1 - The Witcher: Nightmare of the Wolf
s02 special-1 - Making The Witcher: Season 2

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NaruHinka
NaruHinka
20 Dec 2019, 22:59 # Show original
Only finally, a more or less competently staged series, like its finale, was spoiled by this clip cutting. And flashbacks with Ian were unnecessary (a couple of episodes passed, not seasons, and everything is clear without them). The series is not bad, but the plot jumps so much that it deprives the series of any drama. But at least this episode didn't have that feeling of a children's fairy tale. Well, the fact that the Witcher was next to Ciri all this time and they missed each other is of course an ironic fail. Let's see what happens in the final.
АiyoreNyаrk0-sаn
АiyoreNyаrk0-sаn
22 Dec 2019, 19:09 # Show original
It was incomparable!

I read the first 2 books (100 years ago), played all 3 games. I like the series, I really like Kevill. One wish - I hope they will increase the budget for the next seasons, there is not enough of it, and there would be 12 episodes for the season.
My wife has read 7 books, is playing 3 Witchers now (she missed the first two) and she is normal. More often than me, he says that a lot of things are "not like this and not like this", but he looks with interest.
Bottom line: Haita does not deserve, there is something to work on, but you can get pleasure from the series and there is a lot of it.

I love this world and Fantasy ❤❤❤
AD-Rock
AD-Rock
26 Dec 2019, 22:27 # Show original
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kamikaze
kamikaze
02 Jan 2020, 08:11 #
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АiyoreNyаrk0-sаn
АiyoreNyаrk0-sаn
02 Jan 2020, 17:12 # Show original
@kamikaze: Self-critical... but it sounds so true that you really have problems.

Off-top by the way - there's nothing to say about the series...
BlueberryNights
BlueberryNights
24 Dec 2019, 06:12 # Show original
@NaruHinka: >> Well, the fact that the Witcher was next to Ciri all this time and they missed each other is of course an ironic fail.

When it's not a day, but a complete failure:

PS how good Cavill is in character. <3
Maxyjazz
Maxyjazz
03 Feb 2020, 02:07 # Show original
Everything is according to the canon
illseethese
illseethese
07 Mar 2020, 21:17 # Show original
@BlueberryNights: in a word, it's a DISEASE)
mixlad
mixlad
21 Dec 2019, 00:09 # Show original
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noxxy
noxxy
PRO
21 Dec 2019, 01:09 # Show original
@mixlad: In this episode, they just reduced everything to one timeline. And I wouldn't say that it was really difficult to keep track of them. It's just that Geralt and Jennifer's lines unfolded in the past, and Ciri in the present. Now, all actions will develop in the present. In fact, we were just shown the past adventures of Geralt and Origin Yen.
halfling
halfling
02 Jan 2020, 01:38 # Show original
(There was a comment on the second episode here)
m45
m45
21 Dec 2019, 04:01 #
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starbuck
starbuck
21 Dec 2019, 19:24 #
@m45: в каждой серии были подсказки и словами и визуально, где какой таймлайн)
better
better
21 Dec 2019, 22:28 #
@starbuck: а вы читали? я читала и не путалась, но, возможно, не знакомым с фандомом людям сложнее.
m45
m45
22 Dec 2019, 01:31 #
@better: так сериал по идее и рассчитан на людей, которые не знакомы с фандомом. Я хоть как-то знакома, а вот подруга моя совсем потерялась и задавала много вопросов.
zoomcha
zoomcha
23 Dec 2019, 00:49 #
@m45: я все больше склоняюсь к тому что у сериала проблемы технического характера. Т.е. из имеющегося материала, а уверен отснято было многим больше чем показано, можно было сложить на монтаже вполне себе даже что-то годное. Они тупо не вывезли в монтаж. Просто плохая не профессиональная работа. Ну не смогли они в несколько таймлайнов хорошо, и все тут.
Если что мне то все понятно, и книги и игры есть в зачете, от того и фейспламлю.
m45
m45
23 Dec 2019, 03:57 # Show original
@zoomcha: The question is: why? Why was there not enough money for installation and for a good wig? The devil is in the details.
Slightly_Mad
Slightly_Mad
25 Dec 2019, 14:10 # Show original
@zoomcha: And the further away, the more noticeable it is. It's like we were filmed for 24 episodes, but we made 8.
Chris_Foster
Chris_Foster
01 Jan 2020, 18:36 # Show original
@m45: I think that was the plan. So that everyone thinks for the first few episodes that this is happening in parallel
fb424510
fb424510
02 Jan 2020, 03:13 # Show original
@better: I haven't read it. Everything is clear. It takes a minute to figure out if you're in the past or the present.
ras_doctor
ras_doctor
03 Jan 2020, 22:12 # Show original
@m45: I'm not familiar with the original source and the games at all, but everything is very clear in the series and there is no confusion in the timelines
дуболом
дуболом
08 Jan 2020, 02:46 # Show original
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Mr_Jonas
Mr_Jonas
PRO
31 Jan 2020, 15:38 # Show original
@m45:
I completely agree with you, we didn't think about the timeline at all, in the "World of the Wild West" it was much clearer, for example.
andreypershin
andreypershin
26 Dec 2019, 00:50 # Show original
After the World of the Wild West, these are just flowers with time lines 😅
MadFisher
MadFisher
26 Dec 2019, 19:08 # Show original
@andreypershin: That's really true. In the comments under the series of the World of the Wild West, people sit, sort out the timeline, ask questions. Here: "I didn't remember anything, I realized about the different time lines only by the fifth episode, so the series is shit." The difference in the level of the audience is simply obvious.
A_nna
A_nna
27 Dec 2019, 16:22 # Show original
@MadFisher: Well, you compared it. there were no plot reasons for this mystery here, but there the whole structure was built on this technique.

they could have signed it, and that's all there is to this confusion for the sake of confusion. I didn't read books, I didn't play games, I realized about different time lines closer to the middle, and when I realized, there was no desire to strain and figure it out somehow. they are shooting for fans, they have been promoted, but in general the series is a lot of noise out of nothing
Гамулятор
Гамулятор
02 Jan 2020, 00:15 # Show original
@MadFisher: you can still talk the whole series, pronouncing phrases and words backwards, then even more "stupid and do not understand anything about art" will be eliminated.
uil
uil
PRO
02 Jan 2020, 04:19 # Show original
@A_nna: The children from the picture (Foltest with my sister) were shown somewhere in episode 3, then everything falls into place if you watch the series not in the background.
Dobruk92
Dobruk92
14 Sep 2020, 16:46 # Show original
You haven't seen the darkness yet.
Vadim006
Vadim006
07 Aug 2023, 17:32 # Show original
@MadFisher: In the Wild West World, timeline puzzles are gorgeous and are the very essence of the series. The Witcher is a costumed children's matinee, in which timelines are for the sake of timelines, and they do not seem organic to the plot. How can we compare at all?
andryushque
andryushque
21 Dec 2019, 00:38 # Show original
"I'm completely crazy - I'm talking to a horse"
deatheguard
deatheguard
21 Dec 2019, 18:20 # Show original
Horses are good company © Geralt)
illseethese
illseethese
08 Mar 2020, 02:07 # Show original
@andryushok23: she is linked by fate to Geralt, who talks to a horse, so it makes perfect sense)
Andmeril
Andmeril
21 Dec 2019, 00:39 # Show original
The end of the series is very epic
SantaJul
SantaJul
PRO
21 Dec 2019, 04:08 # Show original
Finally, Ciri was shown more
ILLemberg
ILLemberg
21 Dec 2019, 04:58 # Show original
It's been a long time since I've had such a thing that looking at an actress made me feel completely crazy. Jennifer fire. They finally moved onto the same timeline
JushiraJoestar
JushiraJoestar
22 Dec 2019, 00:24 # Show original
@ILLemberg: Well, not really. Geralt has the first episode so far, but we already have the eighth)
parampampam1
parampampam1
23 Dec 2019, 01:16 # Show original
@ILLemberg: What do you mean, "screwed up"? Like you were thrilled?
parampampam1
parampampam1
23 Dec 2019, 03:45 # Show original
@parampampam1: Well, I Googled it myself. In the meantime, Googling came across the website "Dictionary of youth slang". A joke )

https://teenslang.su/content/Свун
Гамулятор
Гамулятор
02 Jan 2020, 00:23 # Show original
@parampampam1:
It was boiling. Flimsy shorts...
Tony_G
Tony_G
21 Dec 2019, 13:01 # Show original
Vilgeforts wild miskast is simple.
Delfina
Delfina
22 Dec 2019, 03:45 # Show original
@Tony_G: What's wrong with him?
Stalker_inc
Stalker_inc
24 Dec 2019, 00:13 # Show original
@Delfina: this role should have been given to Kunal Nayar
Delfina
Delfina
24 Dec 2019, 00:38 # Show original
@Stalker_inc: Are you serious? It's good that they didn't give it away.
АiyoreNyаrk0-sаn
АiyoreNyаrk0-sаn
21 Dec 2019, 14:33 #
Вау вау вау! вот оно к чему всё шло то! остался финальный аккорд в этом сезоне)

теперь все таймлайны стали понятны! круто-чё! Лишбы сериал продлили и на 2-3-4-5 сезонов! такого мы уже давно не видели! круто!
Kimi
Kimi
PRO
11 May 17:52 # Show original
Greetings from 2024! 2 and 3 are already there 🙂
tana_potter
tana_potter
21 Dec 2019, 15:40 # Show original
Even this series is a bit boring for me personally.
Vilgefortz is a bit wrong)
It's always painful to watch such moments in movies and TV shows when the characters missed each other by literally seconds or minutes.
Well, there's still the final, where Geralt and Ciri will finally meet (I hope).
ztRav4
ztRav4
21 Dec 2019, 16:47 #
Вильгефорц - это фиаско, но возможно я придераюсь, посмотрим.
Пророчество Итлины прозвучало тоже наконец-то.

Вот честно, не зря костюмера во втором сезоне меняют, т.к. беда не только у нильфгарда.
JushiraJoestar
JushiraJoestar
22 Dec 2019, 00:29 #
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ztRav4
ztRav4
22 Dec 2019, 00:41 # Show original
@EvilJolly: It's worth getting used to for a long time. At least they don't shout or pay attention to it here, because there are examples where almost the entire conflict is based on this (the Guardians are the last, for example).
Although it is not clear to me, because there is enough oppression, oppression and pain in Sapkovsky's world. Oh well.
JushiraJoestar
JushiraJoestar
22 Dec 2019, 01:12 # Show original
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ztRav4
ztRav4
22 Dec 2019, 01:21 # Show original
@EvilJolly: there are more nationalities and this is done so that critics begin to praise the project, because they pay attention to it most often. 96% of the freshness of the series is the Keepers (look at the tomatoes), because they shout at every step that they are "colored", i.e. they fit in only because of this.
There is minimal or no emphasis on this here.
JushiraJoestar
JushiraJoestar
22 Dec 2019, 01:53 # Show original
@lyingfromyou: 96% from critics, not the audience. The audience has 51%, which is very lean. And everyone has long known that critics glorify left-liberal messages. There is no accent in the witcher, because here blacks have no identity (people, region, state). They are just evenly packaged in extras and key roles.
ztRav4
ztRav4
22 Dec 2019, 02:16 # Show original
@EvilJolly: I didn't write about the audience.
I'm not trying to prove anything to you or convince you, I'm just writing that there will be no more TV series with "one" nationality. (surprisingly, the darkness of Netflix is only remembered, but also that it is just German :D)
Гамулятор
Гамулятор
02 Jan 2020, 00:36 # Show original
@EvilJolly: My biggest misunderstanding is the non-systemic approach. Well, okay, since you are all such racists, and you want no one to be offended - then introduce quotas for actors of each race (at least), let there still be (in addition to the existing ones) representatives of Ethiopian, Veddoid (although they partly exist), Australoid, Mongoloid, American (indigenous) races in the series. Be sure not to forget the transitional races, such as the Ural, as well as isolated ones, such as Bushmen, Ainu, etc. Why do I see some random blacks from nowhere? What kind of racism is this?

This is sarcasm, of course. But what saddens me more is not the absurdity of what is happening, but the fact that people are starting to take it for granted. American racism is spreading all over the world. For those who have not yet understood: quotas in this way are an administrative measure, and an administrative measure imposed from above indicates that everything is not in order in society. I do not mean instructions from above in the literal sense of the word, not necessarily legislative. It is enough that certain groups of society arrange harassment if the producers of information gum do not seek to please them.
prison
prison
05 Jan 2020, 14:57 # Show original
@EvilJolly:
a squad of fascists and other hysterics from the Internet is not all.
Another loud minority, which no one will ever listen to because of the ideas they broadcast.
Makedonfly
Makedonfly
07 Jan 2020, 03:12 # Show original
@EvilJolly: regardless of the rest of the dispute, 7.9 (now 8) on imdb is not to say that they failed and did not go to anyone))
JushiraJoestar
JushiraJoestar
11 Jan 2020, 12:13 # Show original
@Makedonfly: That's not enough for IMDb.
lionhearted-girl
lionhearted-girl
21 Dec 2019, 17:25 # Show original
This is frankly bad. First of all, Vilgefortz. It's not worth talking about the choice of an actor, but if I'm not mistaken (and if I'm wrong, then correct me), then the blood of elves flowed in him, and... Well, this is as far as possible. Secondly, Vilgefortz [2]. How long has he been concerned about anyone's fate besides his own? What's going on with the Sorcerers storyline anyway? I was only pleased with the moment of meeting Ian and Triss, it's a strange but strong friendship that you can't help but love.
Third, Geralt, Ciri and Cintra. What was that?! The beauty of the canon, in particular the primary book source, was precisely that Geralt was not there at the time of the fall of Cintra, and when he finds out about the fire, that the entire royal family died, it was as if he was dying with them, and then everything was turned over as if Geralt wanted to forcibly Pick up Ciri. Another sur from the Witcher's team, thanks also for the moment with the fake Ciri, I yelled.
JushiraJoestar
JushiraJoestar
22 Dec 2019, 00:34 # Show original
@lionhearted-girl: Um, what's wrong with elf blood? This boy is actually kind of completely and completely an elf)
zoomcha
zoomcha
23 Dec 2019, 00:56 # Show original
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namelesscrow
namelesscrow
24 Dec 2019, 13:53 # Show original
@zoomcha: I've been thinking about fawn too) I remembered the fawn from "Percy Jackson"
alavitka
alavitka
21 Sep 2021, 00:11 # Show original
@zoomcha: Absolutely! An elf cannot be a Negro, because it is a separate ancient race and moreover a northern one. Do not forget that Tolkien did not suck them out of his finger, but from Celtic mythology, which smoothly passes into history, so no, when it comes to this, it is not pure fantasy, which can be anything. But about the tolerastic exploits, it has been said and hinted at more than once, so... Fawn is, frankly, the best analogy for our northern archetypes hidden far away in the subconscious. No wonder we have a black devil, and the Anglo-Saxons have south = hell.
LamK
LamK
21 Dec 2019, 18:03 # Show original
Well... I should have disliked at least one episode) It's her)
ViktoryMartini
ViktoryMartini
21 Dec 2019, 18:38 # Show original
With each episode, the character of Queen Cintra is getting more and more infuriating. Because of her pride, narcissism and - "Nilfgard will never conquer us" all the problems arose. I hope it won't be shown again.
And Ciri herself is not very interesting as a character yet. It is not clear what its purpose is - that glasses burst from the scream and the earth diverged?)).
The story of Ian and the Witcher is much more interesting
lady_luckless
lady_luckless
21 Dec 2019, 19:03 # Show original
@ViktoryMartini: Kalanthe was far from like that in the books, it's a pity that the fundamental lioness from Cintra was shown in this way, she looks like anyone but the queen.
Geist-Luft
Geist-Luft
23 Dec 2019, 16:20 # Show original
@lady_luckless: I loved Calanthe so much in books, but here the feeling is completely the opposite, so I agree, it's a shame for such a character :(
eugene_tkach
eugene_tkach
28 Dec 2019, 00:22 # Show original
@Geist-Luft: for me, Calanthe's image is spoiled by her constant whining in the series, was there no such thing in the book, or have I already forgotten?
Maniak_D_S
Maniak_D_S
22 Dec 2019, 05:02 # Show original
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zoomcha
zoomcha
23 Dec 2019, 01:05 # Show original
@ViktoryMartini: The answer is simple. when they start inventing their stories, they get a lot of slag, when they observe at least a little bit of the book, it is immediately tolerable or even not bad. Calanthe is a great example. He invented her anew, transforming her into a repulsive and inconsistent and stupid character. I'm not saying that this is not a Queen, but a flighty stupid habalka. She wouldn't last a day on the throne.
Ariassa
Ariassa
05 Jan 2020, 21:57 # Show original
@ViktoryMartini: but she flies out of the window again - and such joy to my heart)
lady_luckless
lady_luckless
21 Dec 2019, 19:07 # Show original
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Dorea_Potter
Dorea_Potter
23 Dec 2019, 15:13 # Show original
Very often, due to the death of their parents, more children ascended to the throne. Given Calanthe's character, she could have sent the regents. The neighbors, knowing that a child is on the throne, could decide to capture Cintra and then 11 or 40 you will have to fight for your country.
eiszeit2
eiszeit2
17 Aug 2021, 21:46 # Show original
Well.. That's the cool thing about winning a battle at 11, isn't it? There have been cases in history when rulers, almost teenagers, led battles
GeNoM
GeNoM
21 Dec 2019, 19:24 # Show original
This episode just finished me off. Not only is the longing green, but they also managed to republish the original in literally everything. It was necessary to try hard. Hisrich, well, you're... well done.
lionhearted-girl
lionhearted-girl
21 Dec 2019, 19:54 # Show original
@GeNoM: "Reprint the original" or "Golden Quotes of the Witcher Fandom". You can't be more precise
better
better
21 Dec 2019, 22:32 # Show original
@GeNoM: and I liked everything before him in general - there was no deviation from the original, but there was some kind of closeness. but the campaign, when they finish clinging to the last wish and the sword of destiny, random game will go.
zoomcha
zoomcha
23 Dec 2019, 01:09 # Show original
@better: Yes, she's already gone. It's incredibly fucked up. So the problem is that these changes are just crappy and moronic, why change something that is 5 heads better than they invented themselves, that's what I don't understand, it's always such a trouble with these here remakes.
kiprian_zhurov
kiprian_zhurov
22 Dec 2019, 02:46 # Show original
@GeNoM: when you're just watching the series and you're happy with everything, I'm sorry, I had the same thing with one movie))
vk664235
vk664235
22 Dec 2019, 02:14 # Show original

Well, at least the time lines got closer to each other, it's easier to perceive, otherwise they got wise
kiprian_zhurov
kiprian_zhurov
22 Dec 2019, 02:45 # Show original
it's not worth saying how they developed everything there, you show us and we'll root for them for now, but this is
the dark side, period.
I love the moments "and at the same time") it's great
if Geralt and Ciri meet in the last minutes, I'll kill the creators
MiladyFleed
MiladyFleed
22 Dec 2019, 03:21 # Show original
"You chose love too. It is a pity that this is the love of power. And only the eyes remained."
Al1sa
Al1sa
22 Dec 2019, 07:55 # Show original
@MiladyFleed: the whole series talks about how she changed her appearance and there was nothing of her own left in her, but suko, she only had the curvature of her spine removed
Mathers
Mathers
22 Dec 2019, 20:35 # Show original
And jaws
Al1sa
Al1sa
22 Dec 2019, 20:45 # Show original
@Mathers: yes, but the reason for the jaw problem is precisely the spine, she herself says that twisted spine is a curse inherited from bati
RinaAri
RinaAri
PRO
23 Mar 2022, 21:58 # Show original
By the way, yes! So she was normal, just a hump and a slightly crooked jaw and that's it. She had a gorgeous body even before the correction
Moortini
Moortini
23 Dec 2019, 05:57 # Show original
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BlueberryNights
BlueberryNights
24 Dec 2019, 05:51 # Show original
@Moortini:
* 30-year-old men with beards were embarrassed and blushed from such compliments*
^-^
PlagueSpreader
PlagueSpreader
26 Dec 2019, 13:11 # Show original
@Moortini: I'm sitting all 23-year-old and bearded, getting high from the series. And then suddenly I became a teenage girl. Nya, kawai, fuck you.
LUXEON
LUXEON
03 Jan 2020, 23:49 # Show original
@Moortini: I wonder where such beliefs came from?
vk711198
vk711198
22 Dec 2019, 03:48 # Show original
And isn't the phrase "You confused the sky with the stars reflected at night in the surface of the pond" a phrase that Vilgefortz said to Geralt and Ciri when she was in a trance, and for some reason Fringilla uses it here
Moortini
Moortini
23 Dec 2019, 19:30 # Show original
@vk711198: in this series, everyone uses important phrases from books absolutely off topic and at any opportunity, when apparently the screenwriters have not figured out how to continue the dialogue. Eternal inserts with a "purpose" in any dialogue, which is presented as a dialogue with meaning, began to be added almost instantly from the first episodes. Moreover, everyone is talking about the purpose, and in all possible ways, when in the book the purpose was considered only the connection between Ciri and Geralt. Everything is explained here by the purpose, everything is intended for everyone. And for people unfamiliar with the canon, it will most likely be perceived as just a synonym for the word fate, and not something special.
juliakey
juliakey
PRO
25 Dec 2019, 18:20 # Show original
@Moortini: lesser evil, greater evil - the same way))
chshhh
chshhh
26 Dec 2019, 04:50 # Show original
@Moortini: Yes, there is a lot of this in books too. I read them all in a month, so my memory is fresh, constantly, if not a chapter, then a batch with a purpose 🤷🏼♀️
TheRiddler-
TheRiddler-
22 Dec 2019, 17:09 # Show original
maybe I'm not catching up, but Cintra really was an arrogant and cruel power, I clearly remember the moment when Calanthe publicly humiliated the Nilfgaardian people at her feast by leveling them with shit, and maybe that's why, IMHO, I don't feel sorry for them, they got what they deserved, the Joker sends greetings
ufo_passenger
ufo_passenger
23 Dec 2019, 03:51 # Show original
@TheRiddler-: Your queen insulted us, let's cut out your whole country!
It's okay, what
TheRiddler-
TheRiddler-
23 Dec 2019, 13:01 #
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ufo_passenger
ufo_passenger
23 Dec 2019, 14:39 # Show original
@TheRiddler-: In short, violence begets violence.
But my comment was specifically about your "I don't feel sorry for them, they got what they deserved." Imho, you shouldn't justify this, even in a fantasy series.
porco
porco
27 Dec 2019, 08:38 # Show original
@andrewenka: this is feudalism, not countries, but royal possessions with subjects. Actually, Nilfgaard became the first country in the relatively modern sense of the word, a political nation. This is even talked about in the series, although they ruined the impression compared to the book, making a perfect military-political machine (in the books) a crowd of some semi-savage fanatics in the manner of Dothraki.
So "cutting out a country" is like "cutting down a forest" or "beating crops", a purely economic impact. No one considers the peasants themselves to be people anyway.
oliver789
oliver789
22 Dec 2019, 17:34 # Show original
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Al1sa
Al1sa
22 Dec 2019, 20:48 # Show original
@oliver789: they should have given her at least more screen time, otherwise after the episode in which she could have just closed the gate, but began to use magic, she was burned with a torch and she was lying and bleeding. Like Ian, I didn't give a fuck, to be honest
uil
uil
PRO
29 Dec 2019, 08:18 # Show original
@oliver789: It seems to me that Triss was made so that she would not shine and outshine Jennifer (which would not be difficult). Otherwise, it is not possible to explain such a miscast.
dark_lordus
dark_lordus
08 Jan 2020, 18:53 # Show original
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Al1sa
Al1sa
19 Feb 2020, 22:06 # Show original
@uil: now I would not prescribe minor characters so that they do not overshadow the main ones._.
Destiny_Ocean
Destiny_Ocean
PRO
22 Dec 2019, 21:29 # Show original
To be honest, I did not understand, Geralt was in the same castle with Cirilla all this time, he could escape at any moment by knocking the guard with the keys, and during the attack he does not run to look for Ciri through a secret passage (it is clear that she is somewhere in the castle), but goes to look at what Is it happening outside? It's kind of terrible that they missed each other and the poor child had to wander for so long.
M73568
M73568
23 Dec 2019, 15:49 # Show original
@Destiny_Ocean: Compared to Lore, she didn't wander, but just went camping on the weekend ;)
RinaAri
RinaAri
PRO
23 Mar 2022, 22:02 # Show original
I think he just wanted to find Ciri. I just came out of the dungeon. He was asking the guard where she was. And he said that, like, everyone died.
Stalker96kor
Stalker96kor
23 Dec 2019, 01:37 # Show original
It's a great series. However, in this series it becomes clear that all the adventures of Ian, Geralt, Buttercup and others are a very long time ago. And Ian is actually centuries old, and the story turns out to begin with Ciri's escape...some kind of ragged narrative. I was confused about who was alive and who was dead.
Hunterrr
Hunterrr
23 Dec 2019, 04:30 # Show original
half of the timekeeping of the series is a recap of the first episodes, we just took and repeated half of the moments frame by frame, in a season of 8 episodes, in the penultimate of them... on Netflix, where the entire season was released on one day..
maqial
maqial
05 Feb 2020, 03:02 # Show original
I was also shocked by this.
instead of developing the plot/revealing the Persians, we will fucking add unnecessary flashbacks with Yen and repeats of the first episodes
and this whole line with wizards... fuck, we watched half of the series on their finding out whether to protect Cintra or not, if in the end it didn't lead to anything
at all, it's sooo boring.
darklegend
darklegend
PRO
23 Dec 2019, 04:33 # Show original
I liked that the series gives you the opportunity to guess for yourself about the different time lines of the main characters and compare the time chain in chronological order. An interesting narrative idea for the first season)
le-central
le-central
23 Dec 2019, 04:57 # Show original
Just a comment of admiration for the beauty of the actress who plays Jennifer.
kudesnik774
kudesnik774
23 Dec 2019, 13:07 # Show original
Pay the Witcher with a minted coin...!
Lex348
Lex348
23 Dec 2019, 14:27 # Show original
It's extremely stupid that Ciri and Geralt missed each other. The most unsuccessful episode of the season
Dorea_Potter
Dorea_Potter
23 Dec 2019, 15:17 # Show original
Damn, well, why send Geralt to Cintra if he didn't cross paths with Ciri anyway. I hope it will be logically taken out further
Stalker96kor
Stalker96kor
23 Dec 2019, 16:44 # Show original
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kamikaze
kamikaze
02 Jan 2020, 08:19 # Show original
@korolev96kor: I guess because you're talking some shit.
Machineya1
Machineya1
23 Dec 2019, 19:08 # Show original
Great series
ChazyKsun
ChazyKsun
23 Dec 2019, 21:09 # Show original
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Gordey
Gordey
24 Dec 2019, 15:34 # Show original
@ChazyKsun: I watch several TV shows at the same time and don't get confused. Maybe it's not about the series?
Гамулятор
Гамулятор
02 Jan 2020, 00:52 # Show original
@Gordey: We are very happy for you. And now put yourself in the place of people for whom TV shows are not all free time, but a rare or at least not constant entertainment.
Something about grandmothers and Brazilian TV series came to my mind... That's who the guru was in all sorts of intricacies...
дуболом
дуболом
08 Jan 2020, 02:58 # Show original
@Gordey: is it about the fuckers who flaunt their fucking abilities to recognize the cunning plan of the screenwriters on the fly?
Kseniia_VN
Kseniia_VN
24 Dec 2019, 00:23 # Show original
I didn't read books or play games, and I figured it out perfectly! I like that all the stories were shown in this way and finally everything was brought together in one time line, an interesting idea
RinaAri
RinaAri
PRO
23 Mar 2022, 22:06 #
Вот тоже не понимаю почему у людей возникла такая путаница. В первых двух сериях возможно было трудно разобраться, но сейчас все довольно ясно и понятно
cuteclarkwilk
cuteclarkwilk
24 Dec 2019, 01:31 # Show original
let it take me a while to figure out the timelines, but now it's a delight, it doesn't look boring and all the shoals pass by the eyes! I'm not picking on it, but I'm enjoying it!))

The only question is: Will there be no Buttercup anymore? (I am not familiar with the original source, as such)
BlueberryNights
BlueberryNights
24 Dec 2019, 05:58 # Show original
@cuteclarkwilk: It will be. Or rather, "maybe."
I'm still waiting for the wonderful story with Essie Daven (there's a lot of Buttercup).
But it will most likely be in the second season.
And there is also a large-scale story with Buttercup and Anna Henrietta. ;D
empsokol
empsokol
30 Jan 2020, 02:16 # Show original
@BlueberryNights: Apparently, there will be no story with Essie Daven. The first two books were put in the first season, the second one will probably start with the third one. And there is already a rather linear narrative, there will be nowhere to insert such a filler.
Babylon
Babylon
PRO
30 Jan 2020, 18:53 # Show original
@empsokol: It is known that there will be at least a "Grain of truth" in the second season. So maybe something else from the rest. But I also don't understand where all this can be inserted now. Flashbacks? Or on the way to Kaer Morhen? And the main thing is not even that, but the fact that the third book will barely fit into the Netflix short season, God forbid, where else to try to squeeze the stories...
DoberAnts26
DoberAnts26
24 Dec 2019, 14:35 # Show original
The very beginning of the series.
"I told you not to come back."
/ in a minute/
- So that I can give the heiress to someone who has never visited her in 12 years?
What the hell?...
aleks-predator
aleks-predator
24 Dec 2019, 23:03 # Show original
@DoberAnts26: That was the same feeling))
PlagueSpreader
PlagueSpreader
26 Dec 2019, 13:52 # Show original
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RinaAri
RinaAri
PRO
23 Mar 2022, 22:08 # Show original
It's even strange why he had to visit her at all!? Is she his niece or godchild!?🤣
Gordey
Gordey
24 Dec 2019, 15:36 # Show original
I like these kinds of accidents that the characters don't even know about!
Lanfir777
Lanfir777
24 Dec 2019, 16:59 # Show original
the only advantage of this series is the reduction of the lines into one timeline
aleks-predator
aleks-predator
24 Dec 2019, 23:02 # Show original
By the end of the series, when it became clear that this is what the series began with, there was a sense of looping, the right kind of looping. And obviously, we are being brought to the season finale.
It was somehow wrong without Buttercup in the series))
psych0duck
psych0duck
25 Dec 2019, 20:47 # Show original
The 7th episode of the Witcher was on, we are still humming a minted coin with my wife.
yelinna
yelinna
PRO
28 May 2020, 01:22 # Show original
@psych0duck: the whole season of the witcher has been out for a long time, and I sang about the minted moment in 2019m, and I continue in 2020m 😄
ElaMalakashi
ElaMalakashi
25 Dec 2019, 21:17 #
для человека, который ранее не пересекался с ведьмаком, мне было достаточно сложно ориентироваться в сюжете. сейчас всё стало становиться понятнее,т.к свелось воедино. возникло желание пересмотреть еще раз, чтобы всё разложить по полочкам и присмотреться к деталям.
spikey
spikey
25 Dec 2019, 23:25 #
"В Нильфгаарде помнят, как жилось при жуликах и ворах" переводчик дубляж молодец
Гамулятор
Гамулятор
02 Jan 2020, 00:54 #
@spikey: в чём его молодцовость?
halfling
halfling
03 Jan 2020, 04:36 #
Т.е. без "жуликов и воров" нас ждёт такой... Нильфгаард? Хм
Miss_Lane
Miss_Lane
26 Dec 2019, 03:49 #
Цири внешне выглядит на 16 минимум и тут выясняется, что ей всего 12..
YuliaDiadko
YuliaDiadko
28 Dec 2019, 02:53 #
@Miss_Lane: а самой актрисе 18

вот это да :)
April
April
02 Jan 2020, 17:04 #
@Miss_Lane: по канону 11 (вычитая из 12 лет беременность Паветты). я всегда предполагала, что в сериале они просто сделали ее подростком постарше, поэтому меня тоже удивило, когда вдруг оказалось, что она предполагается книжного возраста.
chshhh
chshhh
26 Dec 2019, 05:19 #
Так затянуто шо пздц.
До конца сезона всего одна серия осталась, а Геральт с Цири даже не встретились.
Надеюсь их отношениям достаточно времени экранного посвятят, раскроют эмоции, а не просто набор событий громких.
Поэтому все и говорят про книги.
После того как прочитал, ты проникаешься к персонажам, преисполненной надеждой начинаешь смотреть сериал. Тут же розовые очки падают. А в голову мыслишки закрадываются, что герои словно роботы бездушные, которые одну и тут же ересь твердят.
Artchel
Artchel
26 Dec 2019, 11:37 #
В игре Цири боевик что надо, мечом машет, шрамы в наличии. Слабо представляю как из этой актрисы можно получить такого персонажа.
Niou_Masaharu
Niou_Masaharu
PRO
27 Dec 2019, 23:09 #
@Artchel: Ничего, в Каэр Морхен и в Банде Крыс всему научится ))))
АiyoreNyаrk0-sаn
АiyoreNyаrk0-sаn
02 Jan 2020, 17:13 #
@Artchel: я думаю они специально её молодую взяли - тут пару лет и уже будет той самой что мы знаем...
beoser
beoser
26 Dec 2019, 16:32 #
Ну понятно все, весь сезон тянули к встречи Геральта и Цири, но получилось как-то никак пока, если Геральту хоть нормально линию реализовали, то Цири ужас.
Лангольер
Лангольер
26 Dec 2019, 21:35 #
"Каланте сделала всё, что было в её силах, чтобы обезопасить свою внучку!"
Ну да, ну да, только нанять ко двору мага, умеющего порталы открывать, забыла.
Shunnimi
Shunnimi
27 Dec 2019, 20:30 #
@Лангольер: прикол в том что Мышовур умеет, как показано в этой серии, но почему-то не пользуется этим, когда Цири нужно сбежать.
Лангольер
Лангольер
27 Dec 2019, 22:09 #
@Shunnimi: на реддите коллективное сознание пришло к выводу, что друид умеет телепортироваться, но не открывает порталы. Конечно, вопрос "почему с Геральтом он телепорт юзал, а чтобы жопу свою спасти – нет" остается открытым. Рабочая теория – маны не было, на барьер всё слил.
Shunnimi
Shunnimi
28 Dec 2019, 17:27 #
@Лангольер: слишком многому приходится искать объяснения и додумывать за сценаристов, увы(
LUXEON
LUXEON
03 Jan 2020, 23:52 #
@Shunnimi: Сценаристы очень верят в нашу фантазию)
dark_lordus
dark_lordus
08 Jan 2020, 18:57 #
@Лангольер: в смысле додумывать? он же в первой серии сам говорит что будет держать столько сколько сможет, а потом когда бабке-королеве доносят что они штурмуют ворота и говорит что усе, маны нет, выдохся
Maxrudeboy
Maxrudeboy
27 Dec 2019, 01:48 #
Круто
Shunnimi
Shunnimi
27 Dec 2019, 20:41 #
Учитывая, что книги я читала давно и уже пофиг, слово в слово там экранизировали или нет, серия понравилась, но вот Йеннифер... Может, это только мои ощущения, но это не попадание в образ персонажа. И дело не в лице. Это просто девочка, похожая на Йен, которой сделали ее внешность и приблизительно объяснили характер, но ей не веришь. Это не роковая сучка, которая знает, чего хочет, да она эмоциональная, но в ней был стержень, осанка, гордость, аристократизм, в этой же девочке я этого не вижу, хотя бы потому, как она говорит, как она смотрит. В сериале Йен больше похожа на психующего не к месту подростка, что дорвалась до силы и теперь хамит всем кому не попадя, пытается выглядеть круто, но умные дяди снова ее проводят вокруг пальца, и она идет вымещать злость на своей училке. И вот вроде это как бы она, вот вроде похоже, но в то же время... Будто блюдо приготовили хорошее, но не добавили той самой изюминки, что делало его особенным. Так что Йен тут... отсутствует. Здесь есть девочка с фиолетовыми глазами, очень похожая. Доппельгангер, но не она. ИМХО, конечно.
ivanshchitov
ivanshchitov
27 Dec 2019, 21:21 #
здорово зациклили сюжетные линии
Absurdo
Absurdo
27 Dec 2019, 22:29 #
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YuliaDiadko
YuliaDiadko
28 Dec 2019, 02:54 #
Офигенно! Надоело уже это нытье, что мол не по канону... Да классно сняли, хороший ход такой – объединили все)
Temka_Zubkov
Temka_Zubkov
28 Dec 2019, 23:25 #
Самая не любимая серия за сезон
veer
veer
29 Dec 2019, 07:31 #
очень радует сериал, местами до мурашек, ожидания оправдались)
Кызюавка
Кызюавка
29 Dec 2019, 20:56 #
Мне нравится как лютый просёр нильфам объясняют предназначением, которое нагоняет беды, если этому самому предназначению препятствовать.
А вот то что Львица вышла воевать в чисто поле против противника превосходящего количеством, имея сраный замок с огромными стенами - ничего? Да ещё и самым тупым способом: стенка на стенку.

Судя по всему, в мире сериала, она тупо количеством побеждала, пока не наткнулась на отряд зергов побольше собственного.
Stalker96kor
Stalker96kor
31 Dec 2019, 19:59 #
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loremipsum
loremipsum
PRO
02 Jan 2020, 20:56 #
Слишком крутая история и за персонажей реально переживаю. Интересно наблюдать за развитием Йен и Геральта. Даже жаль, что в сезоне осталась всего лишь одна серия. :)
sigismondo
sigismondo
03 Jan 2020, 03:54 #
Фрингилья и ко так говорят о Белом Пламени... Культ личности товарища вар Эмрейса?
fyor
fyor
04 Jan 2020, 23:40 #
Как же тяжело будет ждать два года новый сезон 😢
ramill
ramill
06 Jan 2020, 02:17 #
Ну прям очень интересно кто же такая Цири, и чем она так примечательна!

Удивляюсь, почему до сих пор не было фильма по этим книгам, никакой трилогии. Потрясающая ведь история!
дуболом
дуболом
08 Jan 2020, 03:06 #
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NancyCareless
NancyCareless
27 Jan 2020, 18:49 #
@дуболом: потому что надо не фоном смотреть, а внимательно, обращая внимание на детали. Тогда будет всё понятно с временными линиями, и всё сложится в цельную картину ;)
ElenLutz
ElenLutz
PRO
10 Jan 2020, 16:57 #
Интересно, а можно как то перестать скакать во времени? Возможно для знающих это крутой момент или же это и в книгах есть, возможно и я, если будет возможность, прочитаю Книги и мне будет это все понятнее..........
еле на 4 серии свела все в одну картину, теперь снова временную линию нарушили 🥺🥺
brytannia
brytannia
11 Jan 2020, 00:36 # Show original
For everyone who has just figured out the time lines, homework: watch Dunkirk
Fanfree
Fanfree
12 Jan 2020, 07:30 # Show original
I still don't understand why everyone is whining about the timeline. Everything became clear after 3-4 episodes and, as for me, it turned out to be a very interesting turn. It's great when you can think and look for the details-tips, and not when everything is presented on a platter. Moreover, everything turned out to be really simple here.
The series is cool, I fell in love with the universe so quickly that it looks faster than Game of Thrones, and it looks like I like this universe more.❤
Babylon
Babylon
PRO
13 Jan 2020, 17:35 # Show original
Wow! He just jinxed it. ;) I thought that with the merging of the storylines and the release of the book events, the fun was finally over. And suddenly, a whole series of downright crown-of-the-line shit, on all lines and fronts, starting with Geralt slipping a fake Ciri, continuing with some aimless wanderings of Yennefer around Arethusa's dorm and ending with Calanthe, who plopped right under the witcher's feet - this is just something. :) Even the stories were abandoned this time. Eels again (I hoped they wouldn't remember about them anymore), Istredd again (why did they introduce him into the series at all if the "Shard of Ice" eventually goes overboard? Just for the sake of some vague line with the intrigues of Ban Arda?). Of the entire series, only Vilgefortz's performance was interesting, but the actor at first glance was some kind... absolutely unremarkable. I hope that it will pull. In general, it would be better if there were fewer such sudden twists in the spirit of "Ostap suffered" from the screenwriters in the future, otherwise they would lead themselves to who knows where. There is still such a long way to go...
Nextdoor
Nextdoor
PRO
17 Jan 2020, 02:56 # Show original
Perhaps the most calm and slightly protracted series. Jennifer has absolutely unnecessary flashbacks and Geralt's excellent approach to depicting the siege of Cintra.
DmitriyPozdin
DmitriyPozdin
17 Jan 2020, 05:23 # Show original
It's not clear, but it's quite interesting)
Raventree
Raventree
20 Jan 2020, 03:31 # Show original
Yeah. The best thing about this series was that it was short and the music in the credits was cool. Gspd, terribly misunderstood Ian, these stupid attempts to make love with Istredd, stupid illogical scenes with magicians (they are each for themselves with more), these stupid acne, terrible Vilgefortz, who is terrible only because my mother, swearing for unwashed dishes, at the main antagonist of the fantasy saga and even more Damn, it looks like Geralt's OOS is complete... No, well, that's why, that's all, why these stupid gambling incompetent fillers, when instead you can normally film the first and second meeting of Geralt and cram into the remaining place at least, for example, the plot of the second story of the first book, which would be more interesting than all this tedious nonsense
I reread the entire first book, and from the first time I read about the string, I feel how much more solid and interesting the original source is. And I can forgive the series for minor fakups like a dumb fat Foltest instead of a puny and giving a good impression of a ruler and a cute orgy Yen instead of an equally cute hangover Yen, but this
What kind of mania is this for everyone not to use the existing normal primary source instead of self-assembled pieces of bullshit to insert? This was the case with "Game of Thrones", when they could stretch all the book material to the last and add, if not Heartless and Victarion, then definitely a Young Vulture, but instead stuffed nonsense and covered with boobs, hoping that it would work. But it didn't work out, as a result, this avalanche of shit did collapse in the last season. It will be the same here if you continue in the same spirit
The worst episode of the season
negr
negr
21 Jan 2020, 12:45 # Show original
Excellent episode dynamics. The segment with magicians is very good, especially Fringilla's monologue, the actress eventually holds on confidently, no matter how much they spit from the caste, as a professional she has nothing to show. And Ciri's scream in the dark.
Dark_Spawn
Dark_Spawn
05 Feb 2020, 01:49 # Show original
Jennifer is an ungrateful bitch. If it weren't for the magicians, she would have died a long time ago as an ugly hunchback in a pigsty. And so - strength, power, beauty, and she's building a grudge here.
And why was everyone so outraged that the plot was incomprehensible? Right there, everything is simple to the point of idiocy. Even half of the first episode was shown on purpose. I thought that in the 21st century it is difficult to surprise someone with different timelines.
fb951122
fb951122
11 Feb 2020, 02:45 # Show original
The only adequate character in the series is an elf boy.
Who refused to move on because he didn't want to die.
Well, really the most vital
RinaAri
RinaAri
PRO
23 Mar 2022, 22:18 # Show original
He had almost died several times because of her. She doesn't seem to have a sense of self-preservation. Well, or too trusting
Simferia
Simferia
PRO
29 Feb 2020, 15:23 # Show original
If you are not familiar with the universe, then nothing is clear at all. They certainly messed with the time lines
loremipsum
loremipsum
PRO
07 Apr 2020, 02:49 # Show original
Which is a series in a row, I focus on the fact that all the decorations are worked out to the smallest detail and are unimaginably fascinating. It's impossible not to fall in love with it. <3
RinaAri
RinaAri
PRO
10 Apr 2020, 13:39 # Show original
I wish the witch had already found the girl. And would he and Jennifer never be together again?😭
Hellfrozenrain
Hellfrozenrain
08 May 2020, 16:26 # Show original
The line of Istredd and Ian is very touching. That's what I didn't expect, but I really liked it.
Loli616
Loli616
15 May 2020, 19:09 # Show original
Well, without reading the book, what can you say about the characters themselves? Yes... Actually, nothing. Except for Geralt and Jennifer (and, of course, Buttercup), all the others can be safely replaced with simple mannequins - they are not remembered in any way, they differ little from each other, and when one of them dies (such as Eyst Turseach and Queen Kalanthe) then you don't care about them, just because the characters are not revealed at all. Even Geralt is revealed quite superficially, although it seemed to be the main character of the series. Even the real efforts of Henry Cavill, who seems to be the only one who somehow got acquainted with his character and the world in which he lives, do not save him. Due to the congestion in the storylines, and even occurring in different time periods, the viewer simply does not have time to reveal the characters and their characters, respectively, and there will be no empathy. The same applies to the extremely shallow open universe, where the action takes place. They did not tell the story of the Witchers, nor the worldview of the elves of humans and other heresies. They didn't show us anything like that.
katerina_017
katerina_017
26 May 2020, 19:05 # Show original
I still don't really understand who is who of Arethusa's grown-up students, but at least the timeline of the story has more or less converged)
CatarinaMarquina
CatarinaMarquina
10 Jul 2020, 19:06 # Show original
The timelines are a little annoying when you first get acquainted with the Witcher universe on this series, it's a little difficult to keep track, because every time questions run through your head: "What if they still survived?🤔", "Maybe I didn't follow up, and something has already happened"
In general, they made it up, it's a little difficult for stupid people like me ...
But in general, actors are very happy. Ciri and her mother are very similar to each other, I don't say anything about Geralt at all, but Jennifer just became stunned by what a beauty, and when I personally look at her, it feels like something native, as if she is my mother...
Vewhale
Vewhale
28 Aug 2020, 01:17 # Show original
Personally, I didn't like this series because half of the series was shown the same footage as in the first episodes. Sometimes I just wanted to rewind, because literally a few hours ago I had already seen these very frames, but if I had really rewound, I would have missed a couple of new inserted frames with the witcher. On the other hand, if I had watched the first 3 episodes, for example, six months ago and continued to watch only now, then I would not have been so bored watching those very old footage from the initial episodes.🤔
Time_Lord_113
Time_Lord_113
PRO
19 Oct 2020, 12:01 # Show original
And so everyone came to one single time line. In fact, it's great that we were given the opportunity to get to know the characters. And now that we know what happened to each of them, it's much more interesting to watch.
ReystlinM
ReystlinM
30 May 2021, 14:08 # Show original
Books are much better of course
KYV
KYV
31 Jul 2021, 15:23 # Show original
@ReystlinM: Is it okay that the series was filmed not based on books, but in the sick imagination of a fema!? Maybe 10% of the books here, no more!
Scorpionn
Scorpionn
19 Jul 2021, 16:31 # Show original
In the series, the plot jumps too much at different times. It's not immediately possible to figure out what's going on
KYV
KYV
31 Jul 2021, 15:21 #
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alavitka
alavitka
21 Sep 2021, 00:25 # Show original
"Where to go, where to go? Who should I find, who should I give myself to?" (Jennifer)
Everything is wrong for her and everything is wrong, the world is shit, and this Witcher is stuck to her ass...
Yes, he would have become a salvation for her, an anchor, just like she is for him and does not care what caused it.
But apparently it takes another couple of centuries to get some bumps to get wise.
Lala_B
Lala_B
05 Dec 2021, 23:23 # Show original
In the discussion of Episode 7, people are still whining about timelines and blacks... how are you racists and bores, and🤦🏻♀️
Orthodont
Orthodont
22 Feb 2022, 18:49 # Show original
In defense of the atheists, I can only say that America really fucked up with its political correctness. There are already obvious excesses. When you shoot by the book, you have to stick to the Book! And here they just suffer from bullshit!
Natalina_kr
Natalina_kr
15 Jan 2022, 15:23 # Show original
Oh, it's getting clearer what's going on. Delighted with the witcher
RinaAri
RinaAri
PRO
23 Mar 2022, 17:33 # Show original
Ciri here resembles the actress Kirsten Dunst
id88276387
id88276387
PRO
04 May 2023, 14:42 # Show original
The queen was furious, at first she was against her daughter marrying a hedgehog (although she frankly said that she loved him), then she also prevented the witcher from taking her granddaughter, although there was a danger to the castle and he said that he would protect the girl. Just an arrogant and selfish person ...
In this series, the time lines were finally shown well and everything was explained, at least it became clearer to me what was what)) I hope that the witcher will find the girl soon, but it's a little boring to watch her "adventures"
АндрейРал
АндрейРал
08 Jan 22:06 #
Львенок из цинтры более неприятней золотого львенка Джофри. Самый бесячий персонаж тупые поступки, тех кто помогает не за *** подставляет. Жесть хуже персонажа не придумаешь
Аниана
Аниана
PRO
08 Mar 23:15 # Show original
Well, the narrative finally caught up with the chronology, and everything became clear) the series is great, but Buttercup and his jokes are really missing! The series was serious, and Geralt is serious. I hope they won't be separated for too long.
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