Ahhh, it's hard to believe, but this series is getting better and better with each episode! so many cool moments: - greg, first with his panic in the panic room ("a small person can fit in there- an attack child"), then with an attempt to "break up" with Tom, and ultimately a request for permission to blackmail. Tom and Greg are still the most interesting and funny duo of the series - mo-lester's funeral and an idiotic eulogy - shouted in a voice from Roman and Jerry. Oh, this dirty, pathetic novel! finally, we found out why he is not attracted to sex with his own girls ... - kendall, of course, is morally broken to the ground, it was very sorry for him when he suddenly started crying in Shiv's arms. and the final scene was the last nail, making it clear that Logan understands perfectly well what is happening to him
finally, we will be introduced to the piers in the next series, it will be interesting to see the communication of the swarms with them
@vk663917: I understood this scene as the fact that Logan is constantly watching everywhere and everyone, including Kendal, who is walking on the roof with unclear goals (who himself told Shiv in this episode that it was unknown how his walk could end). And when Kendal saw the fence, he took the hint perfectly.
Yes, I think there is a double message here - from the outside it may seem that this is a logical decision after a suicide in the office, but look closely and it becomes clear that this is a direct message to Ken
I want to add that Logan only asked the guards about Ken after the shooting, even though Shiv was also in the building. When Shiv entered the shelter, he asked her what was wrong with Ken. When Kendal entered, he rushed to him. As noted here, Logan is well aware of what is happening to his son, and is afraid to even let him go to Rehab. She keeps him in her office, protects him, encourages him.
@ninon92: he has a whole bunch of complexes since childhood, which does not allow him to build normal relationships and feel intimacy. In the Prague series, he talks about it himself.
@s02731: "Oh, this filthy, pathetic novel! We finally found out why he's not attracted to having sex with his own girls... it's a reference to Billions of similar things. In the same place, the main character (Chuck Rhoades) was also aroused only in the role of submissive
@s02731: About the fences. Personally, it seemed to me that this was just a coincidence. Hypercontrol from a father who lost sight of his son during a shooting incident? Maybe, but not to such small things as moving around the office. At the beginning of the series, it is shown that repairs were carried out on the floor, the barriers stupidly did not have time to be put up. I believe that through such an element of the interior, Kendall's depression was revealed to us. However, the tears on my sister's shoulder are a much more obvious and vivid signal.
What a talented series, the best so far, I would like to thank the creators. Logan is afraid of losing Kendal, but does not understand what is killing him even more, Kendal is very endearing to himself, does not know how to live with this guilt in the death of a man, Shiv is trying to understand something about his father and Ken, but of course he will not be able to. Tom, Greg and Conor (Will)'s performance is such great humor. Well, the Novel was not very impressive, as expected.
An incredibly tragicomic series. One moment you're sitting laughing at the funeral of Lester and the plot of Tom, Greg (and the Nazi), and the next you feel incredibly sad for Kendall. And, of course, the Novel! Something slipped through in the last episode, but I considered myself a pervert, but no. I'm not the pervert here. 😅
I was reviewing the series in a different translation and thought about this. At first, Ken looks at the open city, and at the end there is already glass on the roof. So when the security service found him during the commotion on the roof, they quickly installed the fence? Or is it another place?
@Helga_voyten: but it seemed to me that they just decided to secure all the places for potential suicides after the incident with the man who shot himself at his desk. Well, it turned out symbolically that Ken is also one of the potential ones)
@yoggik: I think everything is according to plan, at the very beginning of the episode, when Kendall goes there, there are still repairs, and at the end it is completed. Such fences are accepted on all high-rise buildings.
@yoggik: The beauty of the series is that it gives the viewer the opportunity to choose the version that is closer to him. But there is no right answer )
@krokodilova: I thought so, and who from their family is not a fool) If you look closely at everyone, there are so many infantile and frankly stupid things in them. And only Greg eventually has a rapid upward growth)
one of the few episodes where the humor is great and the heart breaks. I'm the least interested in Shiv. They don't really make it interesting. Everyone has some kind of gimmick, some personal qualities that make you want to get to know and understand this character, even despite the negative traits. Siobhan turns out to be just a self-confident, caustic snob. I blame the scriptwriters mostly for this. She had one "human" scene in a season and a half, in the bedroom after her wedding to Tom. Everything else is some kind of self-obsessed sociopathic robot. I hope it will be developed better.
What a beautiful child, an overgrown child. I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes president in the universe of this series)
I'm more worried about Tom and Greg's relationship than I am about mine!)
I hope everything will be fine with Ken. Shiv is much more competent in the management of the company's business processes. But he really needs constant support. I want to believe Logan won't knock him over.
Every episode is getting better and better! I'm worried about Kendall, and I'm really glad they talked a little bit with Siobhan. Ah, yes, Roman ahahaha, but with him it's quite expected))
Tom and Greg are always funny and awkward. Siobhan - somehow completely confused in search of an answer to the riddle of Kendall. Conor is a walking poker face, Roman - I was one hundred percent sure that he was not gay.
Kendal is my admiration for Jeremy Strong, the reason for my prolonged viewing is him. In the first season, it was interesting for me to look at his emotionality and impulsiveness, and now it's just a new achievement in showing the depression of the character. Jeremy Strong absolutely deserved an Emmy, congratulations ❤
Tom is terribly hurt, having lived with his free marriage, which he forcibly agreed to, now Greg wants to leave him, so his nerves have given out. I want to hug Kendall and not let him go anywhere, he's an incredibly gentle character, the actor is great, his brokenness is felt with every cell, those slumped shoulders, eyes, I really want a good woman to burst into his life and fill him with life.
Ken just breaks my heart. It was very painful to look at him in the scene with Shiv and at the very end. My favorite character, that's why I worry about him the most.
For God's sake, Ken needs to go to therapy and rehab, not just follow him and cover his tracks. It is clear that he will not be able to tell anyone about the murder, but he just needs to talk to someone, otherwise sooner or later he will definitely commit suicide.
I feel sorry for Tom more and more with each episode. He didn't burn Greg down because he leaked information to a woman who was writing a book, ate sausages off the floor for him, and Greg started blackmailing him in the next episode. He also called Tom his best friend, it's just ridiculous)
The scene with Tom's panic reminded me of my favorite scene from the Office (the one with the fire) and how Michael shouted stay fucking calm! and he tried to shake everyone awake, running to the exit 😂
Roman initially seemed to be Casanova, but when they began to reveal his relationship with Tabitha, everything became somewhat vague. Constant emphasis on the lack of sexual relations. And here it is... I'm not surprised by this behavior on his part, but Jerry was aroused by a slight smile and curiosity)
Ken won't jump now. And for some reason, touching his forehead to the glass tells me not about gratitude for protection from himself, but about the growing walls of psychological pressure.
How can this series show tension! It's very hard to get through, but those hugs from Kendall and Shiv felt almost physical, and the tears immediately came out. I really want someone to help Ken.
Everyone realized that Connor's speech turned out to be so stupid, because Willa said that if he praised Mo Lester, it would harm his reputation, so he gave out dry facts) It's unexpected with Roman, I thought he was just impotent.
In the first season, there was some intrigue with Marsha, that she was almost the main villain and twisted her grandfather as she wanted, this struggle for votes, did not let her in after a stroke, her promising son flashed in the background, but this season she is not heard, not seen. P.S. The comment is not to the events of the series, but just thinking out loud.
The episode came out simply gorgeous. As mentioned here, the scene of Tom and Greg was very reminiscent of "The Office," a super touching scene of a brother and sister. Well, with the glass on the roof, I'm leaning towards the version that this is exactly how Logan took care of his son. As for the speech at the funeral, I didn't fully understand, did his girlfriend write such a stupid speech on purpose, or did they show us what a bad playwright she was?)
Roman and Jerry, Connor's speech at the funeral, the touching scene between Seam and Kendall, throwing bottles at Greg - this is definitely my favorite episode at the moment.
I even shed tears at Ken's conversation with Shiv. So I felt sorry for him and it became more clear why my father turned all his attention to Kendal, I thought it was some kind of his games again, but he might be corny worried about his son.
In the last episode, I felt sorry for Tom, but in this one I showed myself to be the same scoundrel. Not a series, but some kind of swing, I like it.
I didn't really like the fact that Logan only asked for Kendal at the shelter, but what about Shiv?
I was hoping that Roman would take his training seriously and take something out of it, but it turns out that this is for show.
Even before watching the series on Edith and Reels, Shiv and Roman were very much liked and interested in charismatic actors and bright characters. And when I came across excerpts with Kendall, I always had the thought, "what a boring cracker, why is he in this series, skip skip?"
But now it's completely the opposite. Kendall is a favorite character. Although I detest his romantic side, but purely for his character and nature, I want to see his triumph. And for some reason, I even like to see him like this, broken, submissive and enslaved by his own father. Their discord and rivalry was fun to watch, of course, but to see how Ken was forcibly returned to his parents' wing and now he looks like an obedient and courteous son is just super cool to me. Like... dad loves Kendall deep down, and now that he's back under control, he's made his obedient, good son again, who's more devoted to him than any of the kids and does everything in Dad's best interests. I hope Shiv gets knocked over.
Logan started loving Ken after he crushed him. Typically for this type of personality, a strong son was at his throat. Therefore, he will not give up the company to any of the children, he will play his games to the end until he dies. And there's at least a flood after me.
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84- greg, first with his panic in the panic room ("a small person can fit in there- an attack child"), then with an attempt to "break up" with Tom, and ultimately a request for permission to blackmail. Tom and Greg are still the most interesting and funny duo of the series
- mo-lester's funeral and an idiotic eulogy
- shouted in a voice from Roman and Jerry. Oh, this dirty, pathetic novel! finally, we found out why he is not attracted to sex with his own girls ...
- kendall, of course, is morally broken to the ground, it was very sorry for him when he suddenly started crying in Shiv's arms. and the final scene was the last nail, making it clear that Logan understands perfectly well what is happening to him
finally, we will be introduced to the piers in the next series, it will be interesting to see the communication of the swarms with them
And when Kendal saw the fence, he took the hint perfectly.
it's a reference to Billions of similar things. In the same place, the main character (Chuck Rhoades) was also aroused only in the role of submissive
- Have you read Mein Kampf?
- Well, yes, a couple of times :)
Logan is afraid of losing Kendal, but does not understand what is killing him even more, Kendal is very endearing to himself, does not know how to live with this guilt in the death of a man, Shiv is trying to understand something about his father and Ken, but of course he will not be able to. Tom, Greg and Conor (Will)'s performance is such great humor. Well, the Novel was not very impressive, as expected.
And, of course, the Novel! Something slipped through in the last episode, but I considered myself a pervert, but no. I'm not the pervert here. 😅
"Lester touched us all"
Tom's reaction to blackmail
gorgeous
If you look closely at everyone, there are so many infantile and frankly stupid things in them.
And only Greg eventually has a rapid upward growth)
I'm more worried about Tom and Greg's relationship than I am about mine!)
I hope everything will be fine with Ken. Shiv is much more competent in the management of the company's business processes. But he really needs constant support. I want to believe Logan won't knock him over.
is brilliant
Ah, yes, Roman ahahaha, but with him it's quite expected))
And Kendall is very sorry, just a lost man.
Kendal is my admiration for Jeremy Strong, the reason for my prolonged viewing is him. In the first season, it was interesting for me to look at his emotionality and impulsiveness, and now it's just a new achievement in showing the depression of the character. Jeremy Strong absolutely deserved an Emmy, congratulations ❤
My favorite character, that's why I worry about him the most.
I want Kendall to be happy :(
Ken won't jump now. And for some reason, touching his forehead to the glass tells me not about gratitude for protection from himself, but about the growing walls of psychological pressure.
I did not expect such a development. It turned out to be very open and naked.
P.S. The comment is not to the events of the series, but just thinking out loud.
- I am going to kill myself
- 👍
In the last episode, I felt sorry for Tom, but in this one I showed myself to be the same scoundrel. Not a series, but some kind of swing, I like it.
I didn't really like the fact that Logan only asked for Kendal at the shelter, but what about Shiv?
I was hoping that Roman would take his training seriously and take something out of it, but it turns out that this is for show.
🤣🤣🤣
Roman in a rooster costume
But now it's completely the opposite. Kendall is a favorite character. Although I detest his romantic side, but purely for his character and nature, I want to see his triumph.
And for some reason, I even like to see him like this, broken, submissive and enslaved by his own father. Their discord and rivalry was fun to watch, of course, but to see how Ken was forcibly returned to his parents' wing and now he looks like an obedient and courteous son is just super cool to me.
Like... dad loves Kendall deep down, and now that he's back under control, he's made his obedient, good son again, who's more devoted to him than any of the kids and does everything in Dad's best interests.
I hope Shiv gets knocked over.