s01e10 — The Interview

@Holic:

@im8399984: What do you mean, crazy? She's not crazy. If it's about talking to her brother, then she said that her mother went off the rails, like she had a nervous breakdown, but she's sane. She's out of her mind, right?)) And she deliberately turned in her father so that he would get what he deserved.
It seems to me that this is a different feeling of guilt - when you consciously chose this path, knowing what it would lead to, and when, because of your desire to tell everyone the truth, a person committed suicide, moreover, this time this desire was also associated with a certain vanity.

@Xpio: "She's not crazy" - the original was "Mom lost her shit", something like "tore down the tower": https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lose+one%27s+shit

"she had a nervous breakdown, but she's sane" - review the first episode, in the middle, when Bradley is fighting with his mother.

The mother TOOK her son from a good drug clinic, without giving him a chance to get treated. Look at how she behaves, a look from under her brows, sharp swings from indifference to screaming and rage and again to indifference.

Bradley says her brother is a drug addict with bipolar disorder. This disease can be hereditary, and severe stress can serve as a trigger for it: https://lifehacker.ru/bipolyarnoe-rasstrojstvo/

You don't have to be Andrey Kurpatov to understand that there is more than just a nervous breakdown :((

You're the only idiot here, since you write such shit!

Are you stuck or something? Is it the same thing under each episode, "Hannah is a whore, Mitch is a hero"? Do you watch the series at all? Or are you running one episode on repeat and writing the same thing?

@Murmyashik: "It's strange that she didn't hang herself on the microphone because of that"-maybe because it was consensual and she wasn't raped by her idol like Hannah?

@Murmyashik: and you can also give clofelin. After that, if she doesn't say no, fuck her.

@Murmyashik: No. I showed you an example that even if a girl didn't say no, it doesn't mean she agrees :)

It's a pity that there are still women in this world who hate and condemn other women instead of supporting them. Misogyny in its purest form

many people here don't understand the difference in terms. No one accuses him of rape and murder. sexual misconduct is an official offense. when a person, using his position, inclines people to sexual acts.
therefore, the punishment for him is just the dismissal and distrust of colleagues in the industry. The issue of trial and actual criminal liability has never been raised.

and especially for those who still cannot distinguish between consensual sex and one-sided harassment, a pair of colleagues in love showed with all the dynamics of sincere human relationships, with open conversations, with reflection and awareness. Was it even remotely similar to Hannah's experience?

@free_Elfo: Dude, it's not about the photos, it's about the person and their character. In Russia, women were also roughly raped, look at the quiet don of the Soviet version. Hannah is just such a character, a new person in the company, and sharply attracted attention from her superiors FROM the STAR and immediately a sharp penetration into her private life. You're writing so audaciously here, but I'm sure you have moments in your life when you just go into a stupor and don't understand what's going on. And don't write that it's not true, don't be a hero on the Internet)

@darthtatyan: I kept wanting to give you an opinion. As far as the scene of Hannah and Mitch's "closeness" was clearly filmed, and the people immediately began to interpret it in their own way. After all, it was specially removed, the information is closed. Mitch has his own opinion and it is 100% correct, as does Hannah and also 100%. And they hid the moment after the end of the act, where both of them will definitely experience feelings and understand what happened: was it pleasant, or terrible, or just a mistake. There are options, but here two extremes in interpretation are shown.
Conclusion. Be honest with yourself and respect your neighbor and his desires. Well, don't suffer from bullshit. Biology has not been abolished, as well as excessive use of power.
Janko clearly outlined the consequences at the beginning of the series.

@AntonLosk: Thanks for your comment, it's true. I think men themselves, when they get into a situation similar to Hannah's, don't admit to themselves that this is violence, because they are men. And they don't even understand why it's hard for them afterwards. As if sex without consent couldn't be as devastating for a man as it was for Hannah. And it seems to me that men share their problems less, which makes me extremely sad. Because there are different situations, and anyone can be in Hannah's place.

@Ziza: She broke down. It is a pity that at such a difficult moment for her she did not take advantage of the offered help from a friend or Bradley, it is much harder to cope with this on her own. Don't do this, please live.

@cee_jay: Of course! This is a series about the harm of drugs, and not about a completely different topic. Do you remember the episode where they showed us what a complete drug addict Hannah is? Yes, definitely, she just had a regular overdose by accident.

@lits: you are living proof of what the girl said above :)

@Aunty_c: lol, are you aware that before the popularity of the hashtag #metoo in 2017, there was another hashtag and not in English... The hashtag in Ukrainian is #yaneboyus, a story where girls talked about their experiences of sexual violence and this is 2016. Check Facebook and Twitter, you can translate the same phrase in Russian. This is not a fashionable trend from the West, this is what is happening in the world to women and on a much larger scale, because there is a culture of silence and lack of experience in working (and training) bodies with victims of sexual violence.

Well, it means that your head and perception are not all right, since you are confusing different things :)

Get a room

@cee_jay: It's funny that in your world, everyone who disagrees with you immediately turns out to be feminists. Reflect on this topic.

@080585: What are you talking about? Until Hannah overdosed, everyone thought that everything would be good and somehow pass by, what kind of collective complaints? And so it is almost everywhere. Until someone dies, an asteroid falls on their head or something, everyone is silent and hopes that it will pass by them.

@080585: Well, you have normal rhetoric, equate all talented and successful people with abusers.

@birukas: What do you mean, "your personal problems"? That's how people stick to their jobs, especially in the media field. Here we see a show with a huge budget, where some are careerists, everyone dreams of getting there. And you don't understand that a woman is really afraid of losing a job that she loves, appreciates, and has been striving for for a long time? And to lose because of an asshole who doesn't understand that sex at work is taboo, sex with subordinates is taboo, harassment of a half-familiar assistant is taboo. Why should she lose it? Because some idiot in the comments thinks it's not rape?

@M_lisickaya: It was absolutely obvious that the situation was traumatic even during the: she tried to resist passively, tried to leave, and in no way "went" to meet him. And her emotions are then read out absolutely unequivocally.

@birukas: She didn't agree, it's obvious, she was disgusted, scared and unpleasant from the very beginning. If women with such faces sleep with you, then I have very bad news for you.

@Ziza: ok)

@cee_jay: because if for you there is no difference between sex when BOTH WANT IT and sex when ONE OF THE TWO IS UNABLE TO SAY NO (it doesn't matter why - he is afraid, drunk, in a psychological stupor), if you perceive this as the absence of violence, then I am very sorry for you... you might as well drug a person. even with rohypnol, she didn't say NO, no one raped her... and if you don't look at the reaction of women who, as you say, have their hands in their underpants, and they don't have passion and desire on their face, but at least misunderstandings, then I'm sorry for you and your victims. - Once you've experienced consensual sex, maybe you'll understand what this series is about.

The girl who sees an interesting personality in you and wants to spend time alone just to chat and get to know you better will not be lucky, and you will start sexually harassing her, then that you are a man and you have a dick! What if she didn't want it, and you didn't even ask? This is violence! And you may never even know about it, but she will remain traumatized and she will think that males are just like that and they need only one thing from a woman-to have sex and thereby elevate themselves in their own eyes.
The conclusions are drawn from a bunch of idiotic comments that you left here.

@lits: "how is he supposed to know if she wants sex or not?" he asks. in words through the mouth. You won't believe it, but that's how it works.

@lits: lol. Men don't have it written on their foreheads, which of them doesn't understand the culture of consent. Don't you want to be called a rapist? There is a mouth. They need to say, "Do you want to sleep with me?" And only after that, if the woman agrees and continues, then this is not rape.

@Mark_J:
Article 131 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation
Rape, that is, sexual intercourse with the use of violence or with the threat of its use to the victim or to other persons, or using the victim's helpless state., -


THE PLENUM OF THE SUPREME COURT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION

RESOLUTION
dated December 4, 2014 N 16

ABOUT JUDICIAL PRACTICE
IN CASES OF CRIMES AGAINST SEXUAL INTEGRITY
AND SEXUAL FREEDOM OF THE INDIVIDUAL
5. Rape and violent acts of a sexual nature should be recognized as committed using the helpless state of the victim in cases where, due to his physical or mental condition (dementia or other mental disorder, physical disabilities, other painful or unconscious condition), age (a minor or elderly person) or other circumstances, he could not understand the nature and significance of the actions performed with him or to resist the perpetrator. At the same time, a person committing rape or violent acts of a sexual nature must be aware that the victim is in a helpless state.

There was nothing like it here.
Any other questions?
This concerns the Russian Federation. Thank God, we don't need to get written consent in 3 copies before sex.
I don't know how the USA is.

@bearkitty: dialogues work that way, but seduction and sex don't work that way, and with dumb questions at the most crucial moment, you can easily ruin not only this evening, but also the prospects of sleeping with this particular woman.
This is the same cretinism as asking a girl before the first kiss, "can I kiss you?". If you want to make yourself look like a weak-willed, afraid-of-everything jerk in her eyes, ask away. Just don't be surprised later that she wants to stay friends, that you're a good guy, it's not about you, etc. nonsense.

@lits: Like I didn't ask, but I didn't get a refusal? The stupidest logic works.
Then you can ask in advance, if you don't want to spoil the "crucial" moment, it's the same flirting.

The question is that most misogynists here should try to mentally move from "she didn't say no" to "she said yes." Getting consent is great and you shouldn't be ashamed to ask. If a guy who is unpleasant to a girl starts kissing (non-reciprocally and persistently), she is unlikely to want to make him a friend afterwards. If it is pleasant, then no question of permission will spoil the situation. And in the case of sex, even mb will fuel interest.

Then what did you like about this series? 🤔

@Andriusha: "The whole series was punching itself in the face with facepalms" - I really hope it hurt you"

Out loud, it's just :D :D :D

@Andriusha: Chip is as much to blame as Alex is to blame. Alex didn't know any more about Mitch than Chip did. Perhaps what made Chip behave a little better about this situation was that he told the story to the Times, but even then his motives, as it turned out, were completely different at that moment.

@maxxxxxa4: Chip is even more guilty - he is the leader, he should have monitored and prevented such situations.
And he covered for Mitch and turned a blind eye to everything.
He didn't care about anything except Alex, apparently.
That's why he was actually fired.

@birukas: I didn't understand your logic a bit.
Let's say I agree with you. Hannah wasn't raped. She didn't tell Mitch no. back then, it was consensual sex. before that, everything seemed to be fine. mutual sex doesn't make anyone guilty
after that, she was mercantile and asked for a raise. again, no one is to blame here, otherwise you don't understand how corporations work. all people get positions for other reasons than good work. It's sad, but that's life
, and then she committed suicide. It's sad, but her choice

And what is Hannah's fault? because you agreed to have sex with each other?

@birukas: Why didn't she deserve it? Should she give up her career for the rest of her life just because someone took advantage of her? Have you at least read the other few hundred comments, where everything has already been explained to everyone? Pressure from authority, when you turn to stone because you are afraid of the consequences, you are afraid that you will be hit, you will get revenge through your career, through friends, when you give up, if only it would end sooner - it's not normal. Write it down on your fridge if you can't keep it in your head.

@cee_jay: I wish you to be born a woman in your next life :) That's the only way it'll work.

@AntonLosk: Well, imagine being cornered by a guy twice your size. Would you rather enjoy their benefits and salaries or be fired – but will justice prevail?

@AntonLosk: It's not just a matter of choosing justice or benefits, but the fact that it's very difficult to choose justice. When Hannah came to Fred and told him that Mitch had raped her and Fred told her that "let's not talk like that right away," I think she was looking for Fred's support, that he would take her side, but then realized that he wasn't. I realized that Mitch was too valuable to kick out. I think she decided that she was unlikely to be believed and that everyone respected Mitch too much. And I'll give you an example. This is the situation, maybe you've heard, if not, then Google about photographer Marat Safin and the model. She accused him of raping her when he filmed her a few years ago. He admitted that the sex was consensual. And so opinions are divided: someone hates him and slanders him, and someone does not believe the model and slanders her already, like she wanted fame and decided to ruin Safin's life. And there was a canal behind Mitch. And Hannah is basically nobody. If there had been one charge and no evidence, I think the channel would have simply destroyed it. And she couldn't have known that she wasn't Mitch's only victim. So she decided that, well, it would be better if she accepted the promotion and continued to work and pretend that nothing had happened. It's not a big deal. But in fact, it was destroying her from the inside out.

If you think you've been raped, then you go to the police, not Fred.

@AntonLosk: the only sensible comment. And very accurate.

So it still needs to be proved, then the noise will rise, he's a star, and it's not a fact that the police will react like the police, and not like Fred! At least in our country, this is the case. When we don't have laws on "domestic violence" and the entire police force, including our government, thinks it's a family drama, they'll figure it out on their own!!

@KormashovaE: it doesn't change much, but still - Fred didn't say "let's not" in response to a report of violence, it was a little different there. Hannah came to talk about the violence, but she didn't say such words, Fred immediately understood what she was talking about, said "you don't have to say it" and turned the conversation to her wonderful job and promotion.

You write as if there is a worldwide triumph of justice on rape issues. Even here, in the comments to the series, where the victim's position, her feelings, emotions, for some reason acted this way, and not otherwise, were literally chewed up and put into our heads, there are still those who see her guilt or consent. I suppose it's true that these people have never been with a woman by mutual consent, so they don't know how a woman who also wants sex behaves. 🤪
In short, when a woman claims rape, it is she who is being criticized and evaluated, not the rapist. Many women who have been really badly abused prefer to remain silent, knowing that no one will believe them, that their lives will be examined under a microscope, instead of giving justice to the criminals. What can we say about victims like Hannah

@juliakey: I think she didn't want to help Mitch personally, but to open everyone's eyes to the studio management. Perhaps she considered it a lesser evil, especially since Mitch's situation couldn't really be fixed with an interview.
But as for the name drain, it seems to me that the claim is incorrect. The condition was not to disclose her name to the public, but the person doing the interview should know it. Otherwise, you never know who there said a speech on the record, maybe even someone the first person he met. This is an analogy with anonymous testimony in court - the witness's name is not disclosed to everyone, but at least the judge knows him.

@Andriusha: it has always been interesting to me that people who speak out in this way, blaming all the raped women, calling them whores (IT's HER own fault, she could have left, said no, not to put on a skirt, not to drink alcohol, not to enter the room, not to talk to him, etc., ad infinitum), would also react if something like this happened with their mother, sister, daughter?

@omakar: or with them
https://www.insider.com/reynhard-sinaga-convicted-136-gay-rapes-manchester-worst-ever-2020-1
The dude talked to drunk men from pubs, took them home and raped them. 136 confirmed

@s1nner: so they didn't show much about her. But the second season is ahead.

@s1nner: make a gif with proof. you can send a link, I'll re-upload (if you don't know about the acc)

@s1nner: she tried to pull away as soon as the embrace began to tighten. she turned away when he got in her face. She tried to free her hands several times, and each time he just pressed her harder and wouldn't let go. Review the scene.

@birukas: I'm in shock, honestly. Only a scumbag can think of harassing a girl (for a minute, not flirting with him in any way) at a time when she is depressed and crying. Is this really normal for you? Oh, how can you even think in such a situation that she is "overwhelmed with happiness"? Is it necessary to be a telepath or a psychotherapist in order not to try to overwhelm your subordinate, who is still shaking from the encounter with horror and grief? No, Mitch wasn't insufficiently informed about his partner's mood, he calculated everything - he understood that Hannah idolized him as a journalist, ambushed her when she was emotionally vulnerable, pretended to believe in her, supported her as a friend and mentor, wanted to help her (he later said that he had not deceived her, - he deceived me). He disarmed her with his supposedly friendly participation. And then he moved on to sexual activity, realizing that she would be stunned and confused, and would not be able to push him away. And how quickly he acts - holding her in his arms, immediately climbs into her panties, in a matter of seconds pulls off her jeans and puts her on the bed. So that she wouldn't have time to come out of her stupor and refuse him or run away. And he never looks at her face to at least find out how she is, if she's okay. Because he doesn't care if she's okay or not, all he cares about is getting his own way. Seriously, are you really justifying this behavior?

@birukas: In the sense of "how does this make Mitch guilty"??! Wasn't HE the one who started groping her? Didn't he let her pull away when Hannah realized that the hug was getting too long? Did we even watch the same series?! She said herself that she needed a friend, a FATHER, and not an old asshole who perceives any slightest display of friendliness as a signal to act. If you like to spread your hands, love the consequences. But, unfortunately, not in our country yet.

@birukas: "Have you ever had at least one relationship with women in reality? Have you ever had sex?'
Have you had sex at least once with a woman who really wants you?

"Here I can be a man" - so if you can, why are you not a real man, but a simple schmuck?

@birukas: "Hmm, not a telepath." - it wasn't then. if it had been, they would have understood, even if they weren't telepathic.
I advise you to try it at least once. much better than rape ;)

"Everything is fine in my life." - there is such a thing that stupid people do not understand that they are stupid. It's about the same for you. you are very pathetic, and just because you don't know any other way, you think that everything is fine with you.

@birukas: "I advise you to do the same" - I don't need advice from rapists, thank you

@birukas: I have children, imbecile ))

@birukas: "are you so mad about how to fuck women" - because I'm not a rapist and I don't despise them, including you?

"You're a weird character." - I'm not weird. You're just too dumb to understand.
There are other things in life besides sleeping, shitting, and sex (through violence)

"you have the mindset of an inexperienced teenager of 15" - a 15-year-old teenager has more respect than you do. At least he can learn how to do the right thing. You're a rapist for life.

@lits: Either you're kidding, or you're a virgin yourself.... or even gay.))))
You can't find people with such arguments in real life.))))
He spent several months with a cute ass XDDD. You were spending time with a man, you idiot, not with an ass.

Well, your example doesn't fit, you weren't this girl's boss or colleague.

@lits: "There are also "worse" arguments, ask about pickup traffic if they are still alive. "
Pickup is a sect rather than a movement. That is, without any "cool tricks", the girls still did not obey you. )))

"I was only interested in her for sex, but as a person she's too obsessed with herself, constant goofing off with her girlfriends, talking about nothing, and other girlish fun."

So why do you need a relationship at all, because you can sleep with different girls all the time and without a relationship. What a pickup truck you are.)))

"Why doesn't it fit? "
Well, obviously, because you were originally dating. Immediately, Hannah viewed the meetings as a manifestation of friendship, and she went to the room not because they had a 4th date, but simply.

In short, your empathy level is at zero, you don't understand other people at all. And you don't know some basic things. Why continue to drag your medieval morality into the modern world? The world has been moving towards humanization and nonviolence for a long time. Yes, violence is multifaceted, but I believe that you will cope and see what is wrong.
And by the way, men are not their own masters, especially if you live in Russia. Domestic matriarchy has been reigning in our country for a long time. Perhaps your behavior is an attempt to prove that you are an alpha male, but most likely no one is interested.

@lits: You're one of the few people here who makes sound arguments in defense of your opinion. I say thank you and shake your hand!

@Katriona: you're welcome)) I click back))

@Andriusha: a person who has experienced bullying is bullying other people. Bravo.

@birukas: "an adult sane woman" is debatable. She was traumatized by the terrorist attack, so her sanity is questionable, and Mitch knew about it.


"he's a big boss, I didn't refuse him, because he put pressure on me with his authority, so this is rape" = "she has such beautiful breasts, I couldn't resist, so this is rape" - in the first situation, not giving will have consequences for life (dismissal), in the second not. therefore they are not equal

"If you say that being an adult is a tough guy," no one says that.

"because women, by virtue of their psyche and brain structure, are subordinate people" is sexism, nothing more. Show me the official research on this

"Where will this lead us?" - to the fact that the men will start to control themselves, maybe? think with your head and not with your dick?

"and then go write a manual on How to stay a virgin at 50," as Alex said in one of the early episodes: "why are you shitting in your own house? There are plenty of women who are ready to suck your dick who don't work in this show"

"you wouldn't be writing "Mitch is an abuser" now, but "What a beautiful couple they are with Mitch" - of course, because then it would be consensual and not rape. That's exactly how it works
, both want it - a beautiful couple
, someone doesn't want it, but there's still sex - rape

@Andriusha:
"it's sexist, nothing more. Show me the official research on this."
These are your statements. You're saying that Mitch, because he's a man, had to treat Hannah in a special way, because she's a woman.
Personally, I believe in principle that everyone is equal before the law. If you are a man who hugs you, kisses you, you do not refuse him, and he does not threaten you in any way, you have sex - then this is consensual sex.

"to the fact that men will start to control themselves, maybe? Do
you treat Hannah like a child, i.e. do you think that someone should monitor her deep inner experiences in a telepathic way, and based on these inexplicably obtained data, make decisions essentially for her. I.e. she stands, is silent, allows herself to be kissed hugging and so on, but Mitch had to somehow understand that she wasn't just shy like that, but deep down she didn't want sex and considered what was happening to be rape, and immediately stop kissing her, hugging her, and subsequently having sex with her.
Thus, you single out Hannah, as a woman, into some kind of separate category of people whose experiences need to be taken care of separately, in addition to generally accepted legal norms. And generally accepted legal norms are, in the case of unwanted sexual acts, to notify the opponent that these actions are undesirable.
And if, for some reason, you give Hannah such "privileges" as a woman, I absolutely have the right to mirror Mitch, and all men, with my additional privileges, due to the sharp hormonal imbalance that has subdued his brain, i.e., in fact, to recognize all men who see a beautiful woman who are in a state of passion. and under the influence of natural drugs produced by various glands. And, by the way, the penis has nothing to do with it at all, the maximum is eggs, but the main thing happens in different areas of the ancient part of the human brain. Learn anatomy, there are a lot of interesting things there.

@Andriusha:
"someone doesn't want to, but sex is still there - rape"
To find out what someone doesn't want, it requires an expression of will, i.e. a banal "I don't want" from Hannah. It didn't happen here.
Besides, the circumstances here clearly spoke in favor of what she wanted - she flirted modestly, accepted his compliments without "what are you, a married man, giving me compliments here?", went to the room.
If he started groping an unknown girl without a "hello!" for no reason, I would be completely on the side of this girl.
And here it's just infantilism and stupidity on the one hand, and an ordinary guy on the other.

@birukas: "Next. Mitch was there too and was blown away by the terrorist attack. And I wanted to do something good about this terrorist attack. Hannah got caught, he kissed her, she didn't mind, they slept together." - almost convinced. but no. Mitch may be awesome, but he had plans for this before he was awesome. That's why he asked Hannah to go, who was just a newbie at work, instead of her direct supervisor.
Secondly, yes, Mitch was obliged to monitor her inner emotional ones. He was her boss.

"That's what I'm talking about, you women" -I'm not a woman, so I don't know what you're talking about, but you're wrong from the start.

"These are your statements," no. what you said were your statements, I asked for proof. and such a statement without evidence is precisely that sexism

"You're saying that Mitch is because he's a man" - you didn't understand anything.
I don't give a shit if Mitch is a man or not.
Replace Hannah with a young man and put Alex instead of Mitch, I'll say that Alex is a rapist. This is a series about harassment and violence at work.

"he had to treat Hannah in a special way, because" - she is under his command

"that someone should telepathically monitor her deep inner experiences, and based on these inexplicably obtained data, make decisions essentially for her. That is, she stands, remains silent, allows herself to be kissed, hugged, and so on, but Mitch had to somehow understand that she is not just here She's so shy, but deep down she doesn't want sex and considers what's happening to be rape, and immediately stop kissing her, hugging her, and subsequently having sex with her." - don't do all this. you can just look at her face at any moment and understand that everything is fine. If you really want to

"So you're singling out Hannah as a woman" - further, I didn't read this nonsense, since it's not what I was saying at all :)

@birukas:
"then everything will be OK, if it's not an employee, then it's not rape anymore" - it depends. maybe yes, maybe no. If a person is able to fire you, then everything is black and white. if you just met, then this is already a gray area for a number of reasons.

"So, simply put, it's only by context that we understand that Hannah didn't want to. And if you show the individual pieces, then neither we nor Mitch understood ANYTHING there."- not TO US, but TO YOU. And that's your problem, to understand what a person wants by their facial expression.

@birukas: "I'm not denying that he liked her." - so you don't deny that he used his position for personal purposes? How interesting is it? And if it's not even rape, do you know that it's illegal?

"The fact that he's guilty in the framework of the employment contract in front of the studio, that he slept with a subordinate, I agree with that." - Okay, let me play along with you. Where did anyone say that he should be in prison? nobody. He's an asshole because he cheated on his wife. You agree. he violated his contract with the studio, he was fired, he got what he deserved. do you agree yourself
, that is, the asshole was left without a job because of his actions (you said it yourself, not me) and Hannah is to blame? how is it?

"Working in this office is not her inalienable right, but a privilege. "It's a privilege, of course. But Mitch had nothing to do with it. Can she lose her privilege just because some guy can't keep his dick in his pants? If Mitch hadn't been there, Bradley would have been./Alex initially, there would be no risk of losing the privilege

"Especially since he didn't threaten to fire her. And if she made up this threat to herself," they don't pay attention to the details at all. generally.
There's a precedent, my dear, for what Mitch does to those who don't want to sleep with him. There's Mia, whose producer had a hard time after she broke up with Mitch. And it was already known at the time when Mitch raped Hannah.
What makes the fear of losing your job justified?

"Where is the use of power if he has no power over it in this area?" "if Mitch can make it so that she doesn't work on the channel, he has the power. He could do that.

"Situation" is a silly comparison for a number of reasons.
First, you're talking about getting something. It's about taking it away. If I already have a car, a policeman stops me and says that he will take the car away (he will come up with reasons, not because I violated something) if I don't sleep with him, it will be a more correct example than yours
Secondly, the car is not vital. Work, yes.
If I lose (or don't get) my car, I'll use the subway and be able to live in any way.
If I lose my job, then maybe I'll be living under a bridge in a couple of months.
And third, as I said before, Mitch shouldn't have the right to take away this privilege. For the comparison to be valid, Mitch had to own the channel. And then there would have been a completely different conversation about what I violated, but I won't go into details.

"Or, for example," - I will not go into examples, because I do not know all the details (and I am not particularly interested in learning them). I will only comment on what was shown in the series.
Otherwise, maybe there's actually a Shyamalan twist, and Hannah set it all up to get Mitch fired because 20 years ago he hit her dog.
If it wasn't shown in 10 episodes, I'm not interested in discussing it.

@birukas: so, you write a lot, I read from the beginning of the paragraph to the first nonsense. since it doesn't make sense to read on

"Using the STATE" is nonsense.
http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_10699/2da8d7a9884839c44d98466e0b1a63101b298844 /
paragraph 2 speaks separately about the government position, that is, what paragraph 1 does for all companies. If you hire people, you have to follow some rules.
And this is in Russia, a country with a lot of problems.

"Using a position in a private office is illegal only if you have caused damage to your private office," which he did. He had to be fired because of his behavior, which caused ratings to drop and the office to suffer damage.

"But not in front of Hannah, because from my point of view, he doesn't owe her anything"-she didn't seem to ask for anything. As far as I remember, she sat quietly and didn't touch anyone until Mitch asked her for something.

"Rape is a criminal offense" - hahaha. in America, a rapist was appointed president

"but yes, asshole" - great

@Andriusha:
"if Mitch can make it so that she doesn't work on the channel, he has the power. He could have done that, "
And I have the power not to answer you anymore. And let's say you're just hooked on my answers and can't live without them. Will that be $100,500 or will I never answer you again!!!
Am I blackmailing you and using power against you now???

"If I already have a car, a policeman stops me and says that he will take the car away (he will come up with reasons, not because I violated something) if I don't sleep with him, it will be a more correct example than yours"
This is the use of power by an official one way or another. The policeman is a representative of the state government. There is power here. Mitch is a representative of a PRIVATE employer. There is power here only within the limits of official authority.
That's the difference.
In the story of Clinton and Lewinsky, if everything had developed there like Mitch and Hannah, it would have been possible to stretch the use of power - they were both civil servants in government positions.

"Secondly, the car is not vital. The
USA is not a welfare state, and a private office in the USA is not a salvation army.
Simply put, spin as you want. If you are not satisfied with the working conditions in office A, you can look for work in offices B, C, D, etc.
No one is obliged to accept or keep a citizen in a private office if the citizen really wants to work there or, for example, no one else wants to hire him.
That's why a good car and a good job are just one field of berries. Privileges.

@birukas: "In this situation, he is the morning news studio," no. there are shareholders. They're a news studio. Does the morning show work after Mitch? works. So he's just a worker with more power than others, but if he was fired overnight, then he's definitely not a studio.

"And they fired him because such actions were considered abuse in society" - because 1) this is abuse
2) everything that society believes is true. all the laws that we have are the result of what society believes.

"And it's Hannah's fault that she didn't say no to him, got two buns from that night in Vegas, and didn't stand up for Mitch." She owes him nothing. Mitch is a grown man, and Hannah doesn't have to look at his problems (emotional or otherwise). they didn't have a contract that I would sleep with you, you would get a position, and then you would stand up for me.
Just as Mitch didn't give a damn about Hannah the day after the rape and didn't support her, Hannah didn't give a damn about Mitch after two years.

"Therefore, the opportunity to deprive you of a privilege is not power." - and what is it then?
the opportunity to deprive you of a privilege if it is not power, please give a designation

"The same way" - no, not the same way. it was about the fact that he should not have had the right to take away privileges. Here's what the precedent was about, which makes it not just a fantasy of Hannah, as you put it, but a real precedent.

@Andriusha:
"which he did. He had to be fired because of his behavior, which caused ratings to drop and the office to suffer damage."
We're talking about "rape." His guilt in front of his office is a separate issue.
Disgraced the office, yes.
Raped through power, no.

"and this is in Russia, a country with a lot of problems."
The laws in the Russian Federation are a legacy and are dictated by the culture of the USSR. And 99% of the positions there were state-owned, plus it was a non-capitalist social state. We still have crimes against morality and morals right in the body of the law.
We're talking about the USA, sort of.

http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_10699/2da8d7a9884839c44d98466e0b1a63101b298844 /
paragraph 2, separately speaks about the public office,

What kind of article? the link returns an error.

@birukas: "Am I blackmailing you now and using power against you???" - No, you're a clown now.
I'm even asking you, please, don't write here anymore. it's better nowhere at all, because someone might believe you.

"The USA is not a welfare state, and a private office in the USA is not a salvation army.
Simply put, spin as you want. You are not satisfied with the working conditions in office A, you can look for work in offices B, C, D, etc." - well, yes. That's why your other idol named Harvey got 23 years in prison.

"No one is obliged to accept or keep a citizen in a private office if the citizen really wants to work there or, for example, no one else wants to hire him." - this is not how it works. It's just harder to prove in the case of sex. but if you don't hire a black employee in your private office because he is black, you will have problems.

"get a job in any other news," - in theory, yes. In practice, if someone was fired when they were just starting out, it puts an end to their career in this field. Knowing this fact, what Mitch could do is use power.

"If Hannah really couldn't find another job and was living under a bridge in a couple of months, then that only proves my theory that she's a whore.".....


"So he didn't threaten her with anything. She made it all up. "We're going in circles. Mia's story

"I don't really understand what you're implying, but OK, let's leave it at that." - in your example, the woman was selling a car, not a dealer who sold cars to others. so it would be a more specific comparison.

@birukas: "Disgraced the office, yes." - well, if you admit that he is an asshole who disgraced the office, cheated and cheated on his wife. that's normal for me. I'll stand by my opinion that he's a rapist, but you don't have to.

what makes you either a hypocrite, because he's an asshole here, and he used to be a tough guy
, or you just think that a tough guy and an asshole are the same
thing, but in any case, even if he didn't rape, because he's an asshole, I don't see the point in justifying him, no matter what he's doing He is accused. Why? Because you don't have to be an asshole if you want support later.

@Andriusha:

"what is it then?
the opportunity to deprive you of a privilege, if this is not power, please give a designation"
If a person threatens to deprive you of your legal rights, for example.
Come for a pension, and you'll get "fuck me or I'll make sure you don't get anything." That's the power.
Or if you are a state employee and a civil servant, and you are threatened with dismissal if you do not sleep with your boss.
That is, if a person is a representative of the government, has the opportunity to shit on you or not do what he is obliged to do as a representative of the government, and demands sex for this, for example.
That's when it's the use of power.
A prison guard who has power over a prisoner and rapes a prisoner. An official who extorts sex from a subordinate, who has the opportunity to dismiss her from public office.
That's where the power is.
And a dude in a private office is not power - it's a dude who, under certain conditions, either gives his private buns out of his pocket or does not give them.

@Andriusha:
"No, not the same way. it was about the fact that he should not have had the right to take away privileges. here's what the precedent was about, which makes it not just Hannah's fantasy, as you put it, but a real precedent."
These are buns. This is not something that is guaranteed to her by the constitution and the laws of the country and the state.
If he was a parole officer and she was a parole officer, and he threatened her with imprisonment if he didn't sleep with her, then yes, he has the power.
There's also Mitch and Fred, a private shop. I want to accept, I want to dismiss. They didn't have to hire Hannah and they don't have to keep her. Didn't you like it? The exit is in the same place as the entrance.
Do you understand the difference between your responsibilities and free will? Paying taxes in the USA is a duty. Try not to pay. To serve a homeless person at an intersection is freedom of will. You don't have to, but you could.
It's the same as with a homeless person. No one is obligated to keep Hannah in office, and therefore no one is depriving her of something that rightfully belongs to her. And therefore there is no power.

@birukas: "At the time of the Hannah story, he is the studio. Alex wanted to tour, Mitch had high ratings." - blah blah blah. Micht also thought that he was the studio. And where is he now

"The law is the law" - bread is bread

"after all, there are more or less adequate legislators." - who, in a democracy, are elected by society in order to translate their ideas into law

"and not because he violated the contract or the law. "No, the official reason is not to comply with the contract. We can't figure out why from the plot (or the facial expression). the lawyer said that he violated the moral clause. if he didn't say something else, then it's true. Isn't that right? We can only assume that his ratings are falling

"Well, that's kind of an asshole on her part" - that's your opinion, which I disagree with. I mean, that Mitch is an asshole, we both agree. As for Hannah, it's just you. So let's just focus on Mitch
, "She slept with him and got a bun," and so does he. sex

@Andriusha:
"No, not the same way. it was about the fact that he should not have had the right to take away privileges. here, what was the precedent about, which makes it not just a fantasy of Hannah, as you put it, but a real precedent of "
A real precedent of what? That a private office would deprive her of a job she doesn't have to keep? Working on the morning news is a bun, a bonus, a privilege. They don't have to, but they keep it because it benefits them. But if they change their mind, they can fire you. Capitalism. A private store.

"No, you're a clown now."
"But if you don't hire a black employee in your private office because he's black, you're going to have problems."
Well, you're more likely. Because you don't understand that the case of blacks, and for some time now, the number of female CEOs in a company, are special cases, one of the features of American, or rather Roman, law.
What does Negroes and the lack of social obligations of private offices have to do with it? The bottom line is that if you hire 10 workers, then be beavers, some of them should be blacks, because we are all citizens. It's not that John Smith, a Black man, has an indisputable right, granted to him personally by the state, to be employed in any particular office or to be required to hire him in any one.
As it is, private offices are not required to hire people in principle. They may not hire anyone at all, they may fire everyone. They have no obligations to employ anyone in particular. And therefore, Citizen Hannah does not have an inalienable right to be employed on the Morning News. This is capitalism. If you don't like the person, you don't accept them, if you don't like them, but you've already accepted them, you're fired. It can go to any other news or mcduck. And therefore there is no power.

@birukas: "And a dude in a private office is not power - it's a dude who, under certain conditions, either gives his private buns out of his pocket or doesn't." - I know what power is. What you said is power, I'm not arguing. but power can be different. and I asked for a definition of what the process is called when you are deprived of privileges because you did not want to give something in return.

"Mitch and Fred are here, a private shop." - Do you really think that? I don't even know what you're wrong about anymore. That Micht was raped or that Mitch and Fred are a private shop
Mitch and Fred are just employees. it is replaceable. they have positions and responsibilities. if they don't work well, they are replaced. they didn't give Hannah a job, and therefore they have no right to take it away (but they do). The channel has shareholders, so what Corrie did the whole series makes sense.

@Andriusha:
"we're going in circles. Mia's story"
Did Mia threaten her?
What's going on anyway?
Is Mia sitting under the bridge with her hand outstretched?
Or was Mitch hinting at Mia?

"in theory, yes. In practice, if someone was fired when they were just starting out, it puts an end to their career in this field. knowing this fact, what Mitch could do is use power."
These are her personal problems inside the labor market, no one is obligated to be her folder. If he had a fantastic situation, the opportunity to deprive her of the right to work in principle, then he would agree that he had power over her.

"in your example, the woman was selling a car, not a dealer who was selling cars to others. so there would be a more specific comparison of "
Ok. She's a dealer. Forces you to have sex for a 50% discount on a brand new Audi. Saliva is flowing. You have an Audi, she has you. You're fucking her.
From the point of view of her superiors, she's a lousy employee. Legally speaking, is she a rapist?
Now, if you came to the passport office for your passport, and they asked you to wrap them up for the whole department, then yes, this is an attempted rape with the use of authority. Or DSP-nick would threaten to take away your rights if you don't suck him off. Or the cop was busy, but he would have closed his eyes for sex and let go in peace. There yes.
There's no one here, it's a private shop.

@birukas: "Did Mia threaten her?" - Micht caused problems at Mia's job because Mia didn't want to sleep with him. Hannah knew about it. that is, she knew that Micht would create problems for her if she didn't sleep with him. So it's not a fantasy.

"These are her personal problems inside the labor market, no one is obligated to be her folder. If he had a fantastic situation, the opportunity to deprive her of the right to work in principle, then he would agree that he had power over her. "so she has a choice. either endure sex with Mitch and then keep quiet or say no and go to work at McDuck
Excellent choice. If you really think that this is normal, then you admit the fact of rape, you just think that it's okay.

"Legally speaking, is she a rapist?" - a car is not a vital thing.
and I would go to her superiors and complain. and I would get an even bigger discount on the car. Did I do something wrong?

@Andriusha:
"well, if you admit that he's an asshole who disgraced the office, cheated on and cheated on his wife. that's normal for me. I will stand by my opinion that he is a rapist, but you don't have to."
I admit that he is a moron who, with a lot of money in his pocket, couldn't take whores or have a lover on the side, even though all the cards were in his hands.

"tough guy and asshole"
The "Asshole" rating is the attitude of society towards a person based on his actions, deeds, and so on. I don't put any negativity in this concept, because most people who stand out from the crowd and differ from the majority in some skills, actions, achievements, can't help but be assholes because of the structure of a society consisting of envious sheep. And this is perfectly shown in the series - the same black man who is hovering over the host's place. If you're not an asshole, you'll get eaten.
A cool guy is an assessment of his personality, his skills, charisma, his desires, his determination, and what he has achieved. Yes, he made his way, became the host of a rating show, women like him, knows how to present himself, earned money.
And the fact that he was shitting where he was eating - here he is a fool who did not calculate the consequences. But it can be understood. I think he was basically trying to save the children, because as it was shown, he loved children. He's undercover inside the studio, and they'll give him a bike, and they'll arrange a birthday party, and they'll cover him up if anything, and they'll help him hide the trash from the hut under the rug. If he was just sleeping with someone off the street, there would be no such cover, and there would be more risks. But I didn't calculate it, and it all turned out to be such nonsense. Sadness.

In the subject of the article.
Abuse, maybe Mitch could be fixed. But he has no power over her. The fact that a girl doesn't know her rights and thinks she exists doesn't give Mitch power over her.

@Andriusha:
"I know what power is. What you said is power, I'm not arguing. but power can be different. and I asked for a definition of what the process is called when you are deprived of privileges because you did not want to give something in return."
This is the free will of the privilege provider.
If I want to, I'm selling my property to you for a rupee. If I want to, I'm not selling. I have the right.

"Mitch and Fred are just employees. it is replaceable. they have positions and responsibilities. if they don't work well, they are replaced."
They are representatives of the channel's owners.
But the canal is a private shop.
If the owners decide that Fred and Mitch are shit, they have the right to fire them. I agree. Inside the channel, they can deal with each other as they want within the framework of their contracts.
But the owners themselves are just citizens, not government officials, and therefore their employees, too.

@Andriusha:
"Matt caused problems at Mia's job because Mia didn't want to sleep with him. Hannah knew about it. that is, she knew that Micht would create problems for her if she didn't sleep with him. so it's not a fantasy."
I slept with blonde Masha. Does this mean that Olya, Katya, Julia, who are also blonde, will certainly pass through my bed, if they, of course, agree? I think the obvious answer is no.
Mia is Mia. Hannah is Hannah. Relationships with one person don't automatically shift to another just because they're both women and he wants to fuck both of them.
So again, it's Hannah's fantasy. She came up with something, shifted Mia onto herself, built a threat out of it, kept quiet, and slept with Mitch.
Could Mitch have known about the gossip inside the studio? Could Mitch have known about Hannah's fears and unwillingness? I don't think so.
If he had threatened her, I would have admitted that there was a threat. But there was no power. Only the threat of depriving her of her buns. And then think for yourself - buns and sex, or no sex, no buns. The collective farm, as I have already said, is a voluntary matter.

"Micht caused problems at Mia's job because Mia didn't want to sleep with him."
Let's say.

@Andriusha:
"Hannah knew about it."
I knew. Here I can advise all women to mind their own business and not listen to the latest gossip. Much knowledge multiplies sorrows.

"so she knew that Micht would create problems for her if she didn't sleep with him. "
But here logic has failed you. One phenomenon does not automatically make another real. That's the logic.

"so it's not a fantasy"
No, it's just her fantasies based on gossip.

"a car is not a necessary thing in life."
Work on the Morning News too. You can get a job somewhere else where you're not being harassed. Initially, from the first comments, I said that if I were a decent woman, I would immediately send Mitch in the room, pack my clothes, go to Fred, make a scandal inside the channel, get recommendations, go to another place where employees are held for the right professionals, and not for bedding for 50- summer morning show stars.

"and I would go to her superiors and complain."
That's understandable. But would you really consider a woman who would like to sleep with you, offering a discount on a car in return, a rapist? About
It's the same here, imho. But not a car, but a free payment. Which, by the way, is where they buy the same car.

@birukas: I have never heard from any of the women I know that she likes it when they try to kiss her without asking (you can also ask for consent non-verbally), everyone says that this is disrespect for personal boundaries. Besides, there's nothing romantic about predatory seduction.

@birukas: It's about "That is, he has to ask every woman he wants to kiss if she wants to kiss. So? And this is already a clear path to "how to stay a virgin at the age of 50."

@birukas: At first, your comments were a little annoying, then it even became funny, they stuck everywhere. Do you have any problems with this topic? Fight here just like for yourself.

@nikatoten: I agree with you. He only realized that all his efforts to whitewash himself would never lead anywhere, and his career and habitual life were put in a fat cross. This was clearly visible in the last scene, and the camera's distance technique shows it well.

Yes, I agree. It's just that you have to admit it first and not run away from it. And she was just trying to forget it without any help, and it seemed like when it was almost working out, all this fuss started around her.