A very difficult series. To be honest, I thought that Suleiman himself would tell Hatija about his decision, and not send her a coffin, he would wait for hysteria and suffer that she hated him. Again, it was disappointing that the scene with Hatice completely duplicated the scene with Beihan, well, too much for allusion and parallel. The same thing is a suicidal attempt, Nigar has already tried to jump off this balcony. It's a pity that the screenwriters repeat themselves. I do not agree that everyone blames Hurrem for Ibrahim's death. Yes, she added fuel to the fire several times, but, strictly speaking, 90% of what Suleiman recalled and what influenced his decision was the behavior of Ibrahim himself, to which Hurrem has nothing to do. Hahaha, the words Shah-sultan are just brilliant))
@Sehnsucht: you can't kill with a stick -- hahhahaha)) Oh, why is Hatice more vulnerable and better than Beihan? The fact that he constantly sobs-suffers in the frame, and we have seen Beihan a couple of times? Hatice is the central character, that's all. Although I would like Beihan to participate more in the events.
@nens8_8y: Hatice has a weak nervous system, she is prone to depression, suicide, nervous breakdowns. She probably has a history of GTR. :D She is constantly afraid of both, which means that she is more vulnerable. Beihan is stronger than we are shown, she is more resistant to stress and blows of fate.
@Sehnsucht: well, yes, she is not just a melancholic, her nervous system is somehow unhealthy. Okay, I guess you're right, I just don't respect people who commit suicide, pretend to be victims forever, and I don't like Hatice, so I'm probably biased)
@nens8_8y: And I have such a love for the actress for some reason:))) by the way, I read that they are great friends in life with the actress who played Firuza.
@Sehnsucht: неужели хоть у кого-то адекватное восприятие Сулеймана и Хюррем, на этом сайте ими, в основном, восхищаются. Я не знаю какими были эти исторические личности, но сериальные Сулейман и Хюррем кроме омерзения ничего не вызывают.
@nens8_8y: And by the way, they remembered that the sultan cursed Ibrahim a year ago because of Iskander, which means that he planned to execute Ibrahim even then...so the documents about the lion and the trainer have nothing to do with it? Although Iskander was guilty in fact, what do screenwriters have with logic and brains?
@Sehnsucht: I don't think I have it in mind. He cursed on emotions, and the events of the past year only convinced him and poured water on this wheel. The lion and the trainer were the last straw. Well, the sultan, it turns out, did not really know whether he was guilty or not, and he still had doubts. and all why? Because the sledak from Ibrahim is still-he is always roosting, but in fact there is never a single proof or fact.
@nens8_8y: it still seems to me that Ibrahim was silent in vain, he should have told more facts to the Sultan. He was absolutely right about all the enemies, he was never wrong.
I don't like Hatice, but it's terrible to find out about my husband's death in this way. It's a wonderful morning, you woke up, you're in a great mood, you went out on the balcony to get some air, and there's a coffin with your husband in the yard... Nasukh is a real friend. A friend that Ibrahim didn't deserve. No matter how many insults and disrespects he inflicted on him, despite everything, Nasukh remained loyal and loyal.
I also thought about Nasukha that he was so good, and Ibrahim was always wiping his feet on him, insulting him. But he still did everything with dignity. That is, now we are waiting for another conspiracy from the brutalized women.
How do these aunts infuriate me, accusing Hurrem of just everything: someone was killed? Hurreeeem!! Did someone fart? I, of course, understand that Hurrem is far from an angel, but why do they blame Hurrem for all THEIR troubles, apparently there is no one else))) At least take the story with Nigar and Ibrahim, well, how can Hurrem be to blame for the fact that the man Hatice cheated on her???
Only he is to blame for Ibrahim's death. Of course, Hurrem added fuel to the fire, which, I think, led to an earlier decision about the execution. But it happened sooner or later, only who knows what his arrogance would have resulted in.
And these women saw only one side of Ibrahim, no one knew how he behaves in politics. It seemed to them that he was all so good, and the snake-Hurrem, who made several attempts on Ibrahim's life, slandered the poor man, confused the ruler. So their behavior is quite understandable, but it still pisses me off)))
I agree with the comment above, these rats are very annoying, they gather in a gang and start: "Hurrem wa is to blame for everything!1!1!1! All the troubles in the world are gone!!! The witch, the snake, slandered poor Ibrahim!!!(((9(9(("🤮 Hurrem is not ideal, but to blame her for all her troubles is some kind of insanity, the aunts have nothing else to do, so they push all their problems onto her🤦 ♀ ️ they see her conspiracy in any sneeze
Damn, I feel sorry for my daughter Nigar, I hope she will be able to divorce Rustem and take her to herself, finally live happily🥺
I feel that this pack of hyenas in the next series will definitely send Diana to kill Hurrem , as always. The shah is probably the only one of them who will be more or less an equal opponent of Hurrem, she will think everything over carefully before sending someone to kill, unlike the troika "I am a dynasty", "the psychologist of the dynasty" and " Hurrem the snake is to blame for all my problems!!"🤡😪
And as always, Hachi ruined everything... the queen of pizdostradaniya. Someone will take off her rose-colored glasses topped with rhinestones with Ibrahim. Shah Sultan is a dark horse. Matrakchi's tears-a knife to the heart💔
Matrakchi is the holy angel of this series. One of the only ones who deserves respect! 👏❤
The battle of Hurrem and Shah Khuban promises to be interesting.
And I agree with the comments above that the "repetitions" of the plot are infuriating (that Hatice is with Beyhan, that Mustafa and Mehmed), it sometimes feels like the screenwriters have run out of ideas...
I have never liked either Ibrahim or Hatice, but it is very difficult to watch Hatice die of a broken heart... It's not the first time she screams and sobs like that, but that scene on the balcony is just in the heart... I always try to make my lower lip like hers when I see Shah Sultan 😂 Women who are fighting for power are much scarier than men 😁
I believe that if it were not for Hurrem,Ibrahim would still be alive.Throughout the entire series,she set Suleiman up against him, all the time egging him on.I came up with a story with Mustafa that they allegedly want to overthrow Suleiman from the throne. Maybe many people do not agree with my opinion,but she played a big role in his execution.
@Sokyzz: Ибрагим сам виноват в своих бедах. Все его решения имели накопительный эффект. Сулейман был так привязан к Ибрагиму, что часто закрывал на все его закидоны глаза, уж слишком он ему доверял и симпатизировал. Вы же сами видели как Ибрагим за спиной у султана вёл себя: Да я более значим чем султан, да султан здесь никто, я им руковожу, да я первый человек в стране, да это я тут историю пишу и т.д.
Все его выходки - это был лишь вопрос времени. Ведь не только Хюррем копала под Ибрагима.
Я считаю, что Сулейман поступил разумно, хоть это и было крайне тяжелое лично для него решение. Если бы это был не Ибрагим, такого ✨великого визиря✨ султан давным-давно бы уже казнил, гораздо раньше, чем Ибрагима, и без таких долгих сомнений и колебаний.
Даже не верится, что мы больше не увидим дичи, которую творил Ибрагимка... Привыкла уже к этому психу)) и эти их диалоги с Хюррем возле покоев Сулеймана... эх, прошла эпоха
Речи Сулеймана о том, что он отдал свое сердце Ибрагиму и теперь его больше некому предложить, смешат и бесят! А как же твоя рыжая тварь, с которой друг друга стоят на 1000%, ей Сулейман, что отдал, если сердце Ибрагиму принадлежит. Вот всегда было интересно!
Почему Сулейман не может просто сказать Хатидже и Мустафе почему он решил казнить Ибрагима??🤦🏼♀️ в чем причина, что он не может рассказать как на самом деле вёл себя Ибрагим за спиной у султана? Естественно у них после этого складывается впечатление, будто это Хюррем нашептала и наплела ему всякой дичи
Я сначала подумала, что это сон Хатидже. Ну не мог же Сулейман вместо личного визита, просто прислать гроб к ее дому. Она же не просто жена покойного, она сестра султана. Приехал бы, поговорил, утешил. А он посылает ей тело, будто это она в чем-то виновата и он ей угрозки так кидает. А если дети увидят? Ещё и могилу спрятал. Уж хатидже можно было бы сказать, где похоронен ее муж.
I do not agree that everyone blames Hurrem for Ibrahim's death. Yes, she added fuel to the fire several times, but, strictly speaking, 90% of what Suleiman recalled and what influenced his decision was the behavior of Ibrahim himself, to which Hurrem has nothing to do.
Hahaha, the words Shah-sultan are just brilliant))
Oh, why is Hatice more vulnerable and better than Beihan? The fact that he constantly sobs-suffers in the frame, and we have seen Beihan a couple of times? Hatice is the central character, that's all. Although I would like Beihan to participate more in the events.
Beihan is stronger than we are shown, she is more resistant to stress and blows of fate.
by the way, I read that they are great friends in life with the actress who played Firuza.
Although Iskander was guilty in fact, what do screenwriters have with logic and brains?
Well, the sultan, it turns out, did not really know whether he was guilty or not, and he still had doubts. and all why? Because the sledak from Ibrahim is still-he is always roosting, but in fact there is never a single proof or fact.
Nasukh is a real friend. A friend that Ibrahim didn't deserve. No matter how many insults and disrespects he inflicted on him, despite everything, Nasukh remained loyal and loyal.
That is, now we are waiting for another conspiracy from the brutalized women.
I, of course, understand that Hurrem is far from an angel, but why do they blame Hurrem for all THEIR troubles, apparently there is no one else))) At least take the story with Nigar and Ibrahim, well, how can Hurrem be to blame for the fact that the man Hatice cheated on her???
Only he is to blame for Ibrahim's death. Of course, Hurrem added fuel to the fire, which, I think, led to an earlier decision about the execution. But it happened sooner or later, only who knows what his arrogance would have resulted in.
And these women saw only one side of Ibrahim, no one knew how he behaves in politics. It seemed to them that he was all so good, and the snake-Hurrem, who made several attempts on Ibrahim's life, slandered the poor man, confused the ruler. So their behavior is quite understandable, but it still pisses me off)))
Damn, I feel sorry for my daughter Nigar, I hope she will be able to divorce Rustem and take her to herself, finally live happily🥺
I feel that this pack of hyenas in the next series will definitely send Diana to kill Hurrem , as always. The shah is probably the only one of them who will be more or less an equal opponent of Hurrem, she will think everything over carefully before sending someone to kill, unlike the troika "I am a dynasty", "the psychologist of the dynasty" and " Hurrem the snake is to blame for all my problems!!"🤡😪
Shah Sultan is a dark horse.
Matrakchi's tears-a knife to the heart💔
The battle of Hurrem and Shah Khuban promises to be interesting.
And I agree with the comments above that the "repetitions" of the plot are infuriating (that Hatice is with Beyhan, that Mustafa and Mehmed), it sometimes feels like the screenwriters have run out of ideas...
I always try to make my lower lip like hers when I see Shah Sultan 😂
Women who are fighting for power are much scarier than men 😁
Maybe many people do not agree with my opinion,but she played a big role in his execution.
Все его выходки - это был лишь вопрос времени. Ведь не только Хюррем копала под Ибрагима.
Я считаю, что Сулейман поступил разумно, хоть это и было крайне тяжелое лично для него решение. Если бы это был не Ибрагим, такого ✨великого визиря✨ султан давным-давно бы уже казнил, гораздо раньше, чем Ибрагима, и без таких долгих сомнений и колебаний.
Привыкла уже к этому психу)) и эти их диалоги с Хюррем возле покоев Сулеймана... эх, прошла эпоха
Естественно у них после этого складывается впечатление, будто это Хюррем нашептала и наплела ему всякой дичи
Ещё и могилу спрятал. Уж хатидже можно было бы сказать, где похоронен ее муж.