Rombik85

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09 Feb 2020, 02:43 #

It turned out to be a cool series!
Who is the killer after all? I'm still betting on a long mustache))

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juli_mrk

11 Feb 2020, 03:16 #

and think what you want 🤔

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frenchie

11 Feb 2020, 21:15 #

I looked at the scatter, and not as indicated here, it was quite interesting and never lost the thread of what was happening, as if you were conducting this case yourself and getting new clues or leads, you doubt somewhere, but you are already sure of something. I not only liked the series, but also the whole pitch.

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lexx12345

14 Feb 2020, 12:27 #

It is better to look with reference to the year of development of events.It's clearer this way.
7 and 10 series are swapped.
In the end, everyone got what they deserved.

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Special_Death

10 Apr 2020, 01:28 #

@lexx12345: it seems to me that these series should not be swapped, but just watch series 7 last

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oxana0710

15 Feb 2020, 14:53 #

the filing of the case from different sides came out perfectly, all the episodes flew by in one gulp. of course, it would still be interesting to see how it really was, because the readings do not fight among themselves. but the series is good because it shows as much as possible how people perceive the same thing and how they can exaggerate or downplay facts, distort them or just lie.
it remains unclear to me why Eric was not checked again for a lie detector if he claimed that the detective had faked the results. why didn't the gang steal anything from the house in the end, if Trey claims that they planned to rob their parents. if there were so many people, then where are the traces of their presence...
because of all these snags, it was insanely interesting to get to the truth. but we didn't see the true truth, everyone has their own truth

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Simferia

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15 Feb 2020, 21:05 #

27 long years... I can't imagine how difficult it is to return to life when I have lived most of it in a cage

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Marla_

15 Feb 2020, 22:12 #

After all, Eric's father was real. And the last scene for the soul.

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Mortarboard

14 Jun 2020, 00:32 #

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lexx12345

16 Feb 2020, 18:59 #

I can't understand, he was released in 2005, imprisoned in 1983.In total, 22 years turns out.Why do they translate 26-27 everywhere?

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AlexShkur

20 Feb 2020, 01:18 #

@lexx12345: released in 2009 🤦♂️ take a closer look.

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neewdaay

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20 Feb 2020, 16:01 #

It turned out insanely cool, I just couldn't tear myself away. The story is based on real events and it's really terrible to live so many years for nothing

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ReadGoodBooks

22 Feb 2020, 05:05 #

@neewdaay: watch "When they see Us" - it shows even more harshly the injustice in the justice system, also based on real events

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neewdaay

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22 Feb 2020, 22:03 #

@sheff26: thanks for the recommendation, I watched
a nightmare story in one sitting, it was hard for me to watch (

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ReadGoodBooks

23 Feb 2020, 14:24 #

@neewdaay: да, я тоже останавливалась после каждой серии, чтобы просто отдышаться... было физически больно смотреть... но такие истории - демонстрация того, что подобное может случиться с каждым из нас и от этого еще страшнее(

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TIC_TAC

24 Feb 2020, 03:41 #

Потрясающий сериал, давно я такого не смотрела. А когда осознаешь, что основано на реальных событиях становится невероятно жутко. 27 лет... с ума можно сойти.

Я вот все думаю, какая же из версий наиболее близка к правде.

Как обычно правда где-то посередине. И мы ее уже точно не узнаем. Хотя я склоняюсь к версии с ограблением.
Кучка наркоманов не смогла бы не наследить в доме. Плюс навряд ли бы они ушли не прихватив чего-нибудь еще, кроме денег. Они же шли к богачам.
Но Крис точно там был, может и Эрик с ними поехал, но был так обдолбан, что ничего не помнил. Ждал снаружи, очнулся только когда в окне увидел мать.

И последние кадры, "Ты несчастлива, Мэри?" .

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Mortarboard

14 Jun 2020, 00:33 #

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Realnothebest

24 Oct 2020, 18:13 #

Если у вас вдруг есть ребёнок уберите себя от него подальше пожалуйста. Не портите ему жизнь.
А если нету и вы просто не в себе, то существуют врачи и таблетки, гадости писать в комментариях под сериалом это полумеры

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Mortarboard

25 Oct 2020, 17:52 #

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leavidstrem

26 Feb 2020, 05:58 #

Я думала, в конце покажут, как он находит у старого дома 150 баксов😂 Но сериал интересный, много несостыковк, но думаю так специально задумано, чтобы зритель сам вынес приговор

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MarinaBalerina

10 Mar 2020, 04:03 #

Отличный сериал получился. Интересно следить за историей со всех сторон. И актерская игра порадовала)

Жаль только, что настоящего убийцу так и не нашли. Для меня так и осталось загадкой мотивация копа. Неужели он был настолько уверен в виновности Эрика, что подгонял улики под версию...
Думается, что в каждой версии есть доля правды

А ещё сериал хорошая антиреклама наркотиков)

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Lava_recommends

21 Jul 2021, 18:57 #

мне вспомнилось, как он с девушкой в баре говорил о продвижении по службе и важности первого дела в карьере. Видимо, Эрик и убийство его матери и было его первым делом

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Dori_Grey

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30 May 2023, 12:45 #

@hard_candddy: не видимо, а так и есть, он же сам сказал "помню своё первое дело".

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id9358970

08 May 2020, 10:58 #

Шикарнейший сериал!После просмотра над многим хочется подумать!И понимаешь к чему приводят сказанные слова не подумав в приступе страха!Подача удивляет сначала выбираешь серию, думаешь не стой начала,но потом все как то само складывается в одну картинку!

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fb793291

15 May 2020, 17:48 #

объясните, кто понял: что за лицо увидел детектив Рассел, рассматривая фотографию дочери?
самой главной загадкой так и остается личность этого детектива – зачем он так настаивал на заведомо ложном? ладно сначала для закрытия дела и карьерному продвижению, но потом?

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bermadlode

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05 Jul 2020, 01:47 #

@fb793291: the photo was of his father Russell, i.e. the grandfather of his daughter. The one who had dementia (? according to the signs, it looked like memory loss) and which, apparently, began to happen to the detective. At least that's what I understood.

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tipaigrok

12 Jan 2021, 08:17 #

@fb793291: why on obviously false? The fact that Russell tampered with several pieces of evidence does not negate the fact that Eric may still be the killer. And their short conversation in the toilet only confirms this, imho.
Why did you fake it? Well, obviously, he didn't have a personal dislike for Eric, he just didn't want to screw up in his first independent case and took the path of least resistance. Which again does not negate the fact that he was really sure of Eric's guilt. Of course, he is a moral freak and just a scoundrel after that, as he showed utter unprofessionalism and moral callousness.
But I will repeat once again: This does not mean that Eric is 100% innocent!

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ElCelestino

16 May 2020, 19:23 #

I saw my father. I think it was a hint - he considered himself right in everything (for example, that he took the photo or that Eric was guilty), but it wasn't always so

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ElCelestino

16 May 2020, 19:25 #

The reason is that in three months he came to him and cheated with Kim when his father bought him off. Then the day of the murder - for a policeman who believes that he should put criminals away (Eric was a criminal, obviously, and it would be very nice to finish), he was consistent

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ElCelestino

16 May 2020, 19:26 #

I liked the series, but I don't think Eric is innocent - the whole story (screwing with his parents, drugs, bandits, unbalance) performed by a 17-year-old son could not pass unnoticed by his parents (albeit foster ones).

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Mortarboard

14 Jun 2020, 00:35 #

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Mortarboard

14 Jun 2020, 01:25 #

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tipaigrok

12 Jan 2021, 08:01 #

@Mortarboard: You're a really fucked up creature, whoever you are. Right now they say pills really help such.

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Lava_recommends

21 Jul 2021, 19:01 #

girl, go to therapy already and work out a relationship with your father. and then you have some kind of manic desire not only to write this for each episode, but also for each comment. we have all already understood your position.

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Antresolina

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14 Jun 2020, 13:51 #

A wonderful detective mini-series. I would compare it with Fincher's Zodiac. And just as there we will no longer find out the truth, there are also arguments in favor of several versions. What I really liked was the view from many sides, and everyone involved in this story then causes sympathy and makes you believe, then appears from the other side and looks completely different. But this is what the series is about - that the investigation and its outcome largely depends on the point of view of who conducts it and what kind of picture he paints for himself and then milking others. Detective Russell was called corrupt. But he did not deliberately distort the truth for a bribe. He sincerely believed that he was doing the right thing and helping justice to be done. Just because I was initially biased towards Eric. And can justice be unbiased at all, because it is administered by people?

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Simon__di

01 Aug 2020, 16:11 #

@Antresolina: I agree, the detective is not corrupt, since he imprisoned Eric for a bribe. But the way he forged the proof of the kid's guilt - the forgery of the polygraph results, the letter about the $150 found is no longer a fig not justice.

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Simon__di

02 Aug 2020, 03:24 #

@Antresolina: * not for a bribe. sorry for the typo(

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asti_ls

12 Jul 2020, 21:01 #

What a cool series ) I really liked. My guess is that the killer is Dad and probably he is his real father after all. He considered his wife a bad mother in all the series..

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Lava_recommends

21 Jul 2021, 19:04 #

I think it's not the father, I think that if it was him, he would have confessed a long time ago, would not have endured the guilt, well, or on his deathbed he would have confessed, but no.

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Simon__di

01 Aug 2020, 16:10 #

One of the main conclusions from this series for me is that drugs are absolutely evil.
Even if everything was as Trey said, Eric had already served his sentence for, it turns out, complicity.
It's very interesting why Amy and Trey's testimony doesn't match so much, but we'll never know......

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Mortarboard

25 Oct 2020, 17:55 #

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mcavoymrgrt

13 Dec 2020, 09:54 #

@Mortarboard: 😳😳I am shocked by your every comment on the episodes of this series

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tipaigrok

12 Jan 2021, 08:03 #

@mcavoymrgrt: it's just fucked up, apparently the medicine stopped drinking for some reason.

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ilpassetto

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20 Aug 2020, 01:19 #

A good series with an interesting presentation. I looked not according to the established order, but by years, so it was easier to navigate events and faces. I'm sorry for Eric, life has treated him very unfairly. It's too cruel a reckoning for a violent narcotic youth. Yes, a drug addict, deprived of luck, but, importantly, Eric was and remained a kind person. Fits of rage in his youth, theft and so on... prison could make such an embittered scoundrel out of him that it's scary to imagine, but he still fought for himself not to become like that. The guy deserved a second chance. I am glad that we saw this in the series – the beginning of his new life. And I'm not even particularly interested in who exactly killed, because... does it really matter now? So much time has passed. Whoever is to blame, fate will punish him. Or already punished.

ps: I really liked this sad moment, a kind of "look into the past": you can't go back there to fix everything, you can only remember, knowing how everything will turn out. 😢

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Sabi-Vasabi

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05 Sep 2020, 23:00 #

Will there be a sequel or not?

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s0918

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27 Nov 2020, 08:47 #

@sabi_detka_sabi: it won't be, the series has been closed

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bliss_point

PRO

06 Sep 2020, 16:15 #

Отличный сериал!!!

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Suni_Takasi

15 Jan 2021, 08:43 #

Шикарный сериал😍

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Gigaeva55

21 Feb 2021, 21:53 #

Да, отличный сериал. И подача, когда можно смотреть серии не по порядку, оригинальная, но неожиданно нормально воспринимается. Да, жаль, что сериал закрыли и неизвестно, кто же всё таки убийца. Хотя, это и естественно, поскольку после стольких прошедших лет и невозможно уже раскрыть дело.

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Alexander_01

10 Apr 2021, 09:57 #

Не мог отделаться от ощущения что Чарли Шеннон с женой похожи на Барака и Мишель Обама.

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ellaija

04 Jun 2021, 00:16 #

Долго откладывала просмотр, а зря
ведь сериал получился шикарным

И правда получается что можно смотреть серии в любом порядке, ну не считая первой и последней, и ничего особо не изменится.

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Vi_K

03 Dec 2021, 00:22 #

Понравился) интересная подача . смотрела как рекомендовал человек в комментариях к первой серии.

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Shesticvetik

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17 Feb 2022, 10:21 #

Если события, о которых рассказал Трей, действительно имели место, то с чего бы Эрику молчать об этом столько лет? Он бы сразу рассказал о плане. А если бы был еще умнее, то заранее бы известил полицию и в четверг бы уже засада ждала грабителей. Но что с наркомана взять. Раз Эрик о плане с похищением марок и на суде не обмолвился, то с какой целью Трей это насочинял? И еще удивило, почему мужа покойной не подозревали? Пусть даже просто как одна из версий.. покопались бы и нашли мотив.

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dimach

22 Jun 2022, 20:35 #

@Shesticvetik: The same questions to Trey's version, but the authors seem to consider it truthful or very important, since they put it at the very end.

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Fenyks

01 Dec 2022, 13:44 #

A strong, sad series at the end. So in fact it is not clear who killed his mother. Each of the versions has its own inconsistencies. Why, I didn't even understand if his mother loved him. According to some memories, especially early ones, she simply did not need him, and according to others she fought for him: she bought food, tried to arrange a clinic... I'm not even surprised that the series is about the real thing, because in general, real life is shown

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id141039508

18 Jun 2023, 03:11 #

Quite an interesting presentation of the material, when it is impossible to say unequivocally that someone was right or completely honest at all.
Just as Russell forged evidence, Lynch could have done it (a damaged recording of a conversation with Corano and a promotion due to this) or a private detective who probably earned a lot of money and wide fame in his industry on this case

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ellagalaeva

21 Oct 2023, 16:21 #

Great series 👏🏻 Watched in sequence as recommended in the comments to the first series, and did not regret it, everything logically lined up by the years! Movies /series based on real events are always hard to come by... and unfortunately, there are a lot of such stories ... and not every one of them ends with a happy ending. This damn "system" rarely lets you expose yourself to blame, they defend themselves to the last, continuing to substitute and falsify the facts. To fight, in addition to fortitude, you also need some kind of wallet. Private detectives...., the best lawyers .... only for the sake of justice, no one will work. If Eric didn't have his father's inheritance, he would have been sitting there …

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Julimgnv

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10 Dec 2023, 01:26 #

Очень интересный сериал, на реальных событиях, крутые актеры. Но вот фишка с любой последовательностью серий показалась мне немного бредовой. То есть, после первого эпизода ты условно смотришь седьмой, где Эрик уже отсидел больше 20 лет, пропадает элемент неожиданности, если не знаком с историей. Я знаю, что изюминка с «нелинейностью» это главная особенность данного дела, но все же мне кажется было бы проще воспринимать все в хронологическом порядке, ибо все намешано и через пару серий ты уже начинаешь теряться.
Я так и не ответила себе на вопрос виновен ли Эрик. Сначала почему-то сомнений не возникло, потому как будто бы что-то закралось. Но слишком много несостыковок, недомолвок. Взять ту же версию, где Эрик предложил план ограбления родителей, почему никто не задал ему этот вопрос. У меня есть мысли, что он все же как-то причастен к убийство, может быть косвенно, может знал, потому что когда он звонил из участка себе домой и попал на автоответчик, он сказал в конце «прости, мам» (и отец стер эту запись)
Не совсем поняла по поводу срока. Ему дали 16 лет, а он просидел на 10 лет больше. Это где-то оговаривалось, может я пропустила? Конечно, безумно ужасно, если он невиновен и отсидел столько лет.

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magic_natural

30 Dec 2023, 03:43 #

Однозначно интересно

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nejjjno

24 Jan 11:23 #

Отличный сериал! На одном дыхании посмотрела
Гг прекрасно сыграл свою роль и в целом история очень интересная
Хочется верить что Эрик все же невиновен 😬

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yanadanuyk

16 Mar 13:22 #

An ambiguous series. Where drugs are involved, you can't believe everything 100%. Yes, there are inconsistencies in the case, but seeing how Eric is, the detective decided not to bother. 26 years is a lot, but honestly, there's no guarantee that it wasn't right. Eric had a lot of chances to change, he had a father who tried to help him, but Eric decided differently. It's a pity that we got an open ending, I would like to know the whole truth.

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s01e10 — I.A. Sgt. Ian Lynch & Det. Brian Chen vs Trey Carano 2003

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