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s01e05 — Justice Never Boarded

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Duration: 61 min.
Released: 14.06.202015.06.2020 04:00
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1 season
s01e05
s01e01 - First, the Weather Changed
s01e02 - Prepare to Brace
s01e03 - Access Is Power
s01e04 - Without Their Maker
s01e05 - Justice Never Boarded
s01e06 - Trouble Comes Sideways
s01e07 - The Universe Is Indifferent
s01e08 - These Are His Revolutions
s01e09 - The Train Demanded Blood

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Draznilla
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14 Jun 2020, 14:04 #
Mdaa..politics is such a policy... well, at least it is known that there was information about the boxes. Well, now the tail has its own person in the second (now) class, this is a breakthrough)))
and I also did not understand who was in the boxes? children who were sent to study?
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krokodilova
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14 Jun 2020, 20:40 #
@Draznilla: Where have you already watched the fifth episode?
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Draznilla
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15 Jun 2020, 08:48 #
@krokodilova: I always watch fanseries, I don't know why I appeared there so early, maybe a drain
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СтасХрамцов
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16 Jun 2020, 12:27 #
@Draznilla: on TNT, the series are released a day earlier than Netflix, and they probably take it from there.
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oxana0710
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14 Jun 2020, 22:36 #
@Draznilla: maybe not the children, but other people from the tail who were taken away earlier... because Miles went to school after all. People are needed to stir up experiments...
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Draznilla
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15 Jun 2020, 08:49 #
@oxana0710: it just looked like a child, or a teenager. in the second or third container
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vladoman
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03 Sep 2020, 20:01 #
Yes, three children were taken from the tail, Miles is a potential engineer, so he was sent to school, and the other two were put in boxes (they were shown.)
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Любов
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14 Jun 2020, 21:28 #
@krokodilova: on the fanseries website in voice acting from kerobtv)
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oxana0710
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14 Jun 2020, 22:51 #
when will Melanie's flashback be, who she is, what she did to Wilford, and so on. I understand that in my head not all (two people) agree with her policy, but for some reason she has power over them. what was the reason to oust Wilford, the struggle for equality, as the woman from the night carriage (Audrey?) said, that Melanie used to have a more democratic position. maybe Mr. Wilford himself is secretly in a drawer, otherwise where would he have gone from the train.
and all these people that Josie found are experimental subjects in order to painlessly revive Wilford.... or not him, but other innocent people who may have been imprisoned by him undeservedly...
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loginloyso
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15 Jun 2020, 22:26 #
For some reason, it seems to me that Mr. Wilford is not on the train at all. It was said earlier that he was seen before landing, and after that not once.
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fall_out_angel
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22 Jun 2020, 20:28 #
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loginloyso
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23 Jun 2020, 12:34 #
It is quite possible that in flashbacks)
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Anlyness
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30 Jun 2020, 05:52 #
If Sean Bean is playing someone, then most likely this character is dead or will die)))
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Dariya7
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17 May 2021, 02:41 #
She seems to be his daughter or some close person, previously there was a photo in the locker, she is a child and an adult man.
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СтасХрамцов
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16 Jun 2020, 12:28 #
@oxana0710: Maybe somewhere in the head of the train there is a separate single box specifically for Wilford. Although now it turns out that the boxes are some kind of experimental, so it's not clear if he would have risked going there himself.
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mifinc
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14 Jun 2020, 23:21 #
Everything is as usual, even after the apocalypse, politics rules. Although the main miss had options.

We are waiting for the continuation of political games on the train..
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the episode aired 15.06.2020
that_damn_write
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15 Jun 2020, 04:11 #
Wilford was wrong..
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Voheil
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15 Jun 2020, 20:43 #
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bazatron
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15 Jun 2020, 23:14 #
@Voheil: They even showed me how she sat down.
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vk728323
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16 Jun 2020, 02:11 #
@oxana0710:

oxana0710
June 14, 2020, 19:51
maybe Mr. Wilford himself is secretly in a drawer, otherwise where would he have gone from the train.

I will not be surprised if it is shown in the last episode at the end of the series as someone will find it and stay out of the box
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nineath
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16 Jun 2020, 03:12 #
Mdaaa, people remain people always and everywhere, in no way without political deals with the devil. In fact, the power of "Mr. Wilford" ends where the sphere of influence of the rich begins, Melanie's position is difficult. And it's clear that it's hard for her to carry it all. Therefore, apparently, she stopped trying to really change something over time. But damn, the decision to let a fucking sociopath go can have very serious consequences.
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LoLPa1n
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16 Jun 2020, 04:46 #
with the eye, of course, it was hard
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KsuCannella
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20 Jun 2020, 09:00 #
@LoLPa1n: And to make the scene like this, they sacrificed realism) Although what am I finding fault with at all))
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EvilWizard
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16 Jun 2020, 05:43 #
It seems to me that this series is not a prequel to the film of the same name, but just an adaptation of it.
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СтасХрамцов
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16 Jun 2020, 12:31 #
@EvilWizard: I agree, otherwise a lot of questions appear with each new episode.
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Stoum
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17 Jun 2020, 17:06 #
@EvilWizard: So no one seemed to claim that this was a prequel. Both the film and the series are adaptations of the original source, a French graphic novel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Transperceneige
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Vitos_2021
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21 Jun 2020, 00:59 #
@EvilWizard: So this is not a prequel, but an independent adaptation of graphic novels. Especially in the movie, Mr. Wilford is real.
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EvilWizard
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21 Jun 2020, 01:56 #
@Vitos84: OK, I'll know.
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LenaSkom
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17 Jun 2020, 22:06 #
Объясните, какой толк от богачей и их денег в постапокалиптическом мире?!
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tweedlecat
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18 Jun 2020, 01:19 #
@LenaSkom: Were the train and railway tracks built for the Holy Spirit?
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Vitos_2021
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21 Jun 2020, 01:01 #
@cat_pavel: That's how we've built up. What's next? I have already asked this question in the comments to the previous episodes... Now everything is on an equal footing... Only if the hope is that it will get warmer and it will be possible to get off the train, and then everyone will need their money again.
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tweedlecat
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21 Jun 2020, 21:36 #
@Vitos84: and then those who paid sat down.
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Victoria_Vi
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23 Jun 2020, 11:05 #
@Vitos84: I agree, initially their investments were necessary, but at the moment they have nothing. And classism has completely outlived itself. In my opinion, those people who have special skills and abilities are more important and valuable. The same third class is much more useful
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Legless
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04 Oct 2020, 10:36 #
@Vitos84: > Everyone will need their money there again

How can they be needed if in the post-world they will not be provided with anything (not even gold, but nothing at all)? What difference does it make how much money you have if it costs nothing (because there are no resources in the world at all)?
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Dariya7
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17 May 2021, 02:36 #
No matter how much they liked it, but without their money, EVERYONE would have died!!! The rest were taken by trailer under certain conditions! and the 3rd grade is like in the 2012 movie jumped like a hare! no one says that the 3rd grade is idiots, it's pure as in life there is a podcast of people!!! It's only been 7 years, not 100
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the_Priest
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03 Jul 2020, 15:00 #
@LenaSkom: Firstly, money, in any form, will not go anywhere anyway, yes, it will almost certainly not be "pieces of paper" or something like that, but something will still play the role of money, and they have more of this at the moment. Yes, even if everything goes to barter, they stupidly have an order of magnitude more goods for this very barter, i.e. someone from the "bottom" wants, for example, an mp3 player / a comfortable pillow or something else - the rich have it, so the poor are forced to work for them to get it.

Secondly, the established system supports itself, i.e., for example, only the rich have guards with weapons, so no one will dare to attack the rich. These same guards with guns, in turn, are also interested in maintaining the established order, because they also live in chocolate, but not as cool as the rich, but better than the vast majority of the rest. These guards have assistants who live a little worse, but they are still normal, and it also makes no sense for them to undermine the existing system, because they can lose much more, it is much more profitable for them to work hard and get promoted.
Etc. down the social ladder

In general, I see it all somehow like this)))
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tweedlecat
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18 Jun 2020, 01:19 #
What's the song at the beginning?
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LapisLazure
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21 Jun 2020, 19:19 #
@cat_pavel: Bobby Vinton - Sealed with a kiss
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EmmaMadison
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18 Jun 2020, 11:49 #
I can't understand why rich people are so short-sighted. Are you businessmen or what? The third and second class cannot live and worship you, based only on the fact that you sponsored the train. Yes, it is. so, you gave money, but in order for people not to rebel, you also need to motivate them with something, because, to be honest, now you are almost not bringing benefit to the train, because you do not work and do nothing. So that people remember that you invested money in this, and that you are not just greedy dudes from the first class, you also need to do something in return.
It's just that so far the first class looks like very short-sighted idiots.
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stewardtz
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18 Jun 2020, 18:49 #
@EmmaMadison: Well, that's original...
1. if we abstract from the ideas of communism and equality... then the 2nd and 3rd grades are generally alive ONLY and EXCLUSIVELY thanks to the 1st grade. I hope this is obvious.
2. I hope it is also obvious that the 1st class will not serve itself - actually the 2nd and 3rd class were allowed on the train for this. No one claimed at the landing that there would be communism, equality and fraternity. I'm already silent about the stowaway shanks.
3. A person is such an ungrateful brute that living (literally, living - otherwise he would just die) is always not enough for him. And you can only take it away from those who have something.

In general, it would be fun to look at an alternative without shanks.
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Vitos_2021
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21 Jun 2020, 01:02 #
They would have put this maniac girl in the refrigerator, but to justify her... Melanie fucked up, of course. Now everyone will start to wonder what kind of secrets "Mr. Wilford" has.
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Victoria_Vi
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23 Jun 2020, 11:07 #
I am delighted with the game of the little criminal - a true sociophobe, a very talented girl.
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f_cking_wayne
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24 Jan 2022, 18:34 #
@Victoria_Vi: What kind of sociophobe? Is she afraid of society? She's a sociopath. Don't confuse it.
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EmmaMadison
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23 Jun 2020, 19:47 #
@stewardtz: 1 and 2. Yes, it is, but they also bought/received (?) the ticket and if they were put on the train, then how should their opinions be taken into account. And it's not about communism and brotherhood, but the fact that you live inside one eco-system that functions thanks to each link.In this case, it is very stupid to pretend that the 2nd and 3rd class are some kind of inhumans and slaves, because a) there are more of them, B) they serve you, c) nevertheless, they differ less from you at the moment than in a capitalist society that has sunk into oblivion. As if in such circumstances, a riot is only a matter of time. Therefore, it is unclear why the image of "evil, rich and stupid" is again needed.
3. But the same applies only to hvostaviki. The rest got their place.

At the same time, you forget that the train has been traveling for 7 years and it is impossible to control people's consciousness simply by telling them that they say people from the first chipped in on the train. They are useless within the framework of the train. They do nothing but consume resources. They should understand this themselves and not engage in open confrontation with others.
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stewardtz
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31 Jul 2020, 13:41 #
@EmmaMadison: the standard human mindset is "I don't owe you anything"....
"They are useless within the train" - I understand that you don't understand the main thing - THE TRAIN GENERALLY EXISTS IN NATURE ONLY THANKS TO FIRST CLASS. The 2nd and 3rd grades are alive only because of the 1st grade. Do you really not understand this causal relationship?
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Nagini_177
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06 Mar 2021, 04:22 #
The 3rd class did not have tickets, they were taken for skills and for train maintenance. That was the deal, they agreed to work all their lives, but live. It was possible to disagree and not take the train, but it seems that the choice is obvious here. The second class, it seems to me, the same investors as the first, just invested less money. Look at how the woman in the tribunal from the 2nd was dressed. Also in the second class there are people of a "higher" profession, not turners, but doctors.

3 and the tail cannot claim equal rights to themselves. The tail is generally alive, out of mercy, resources were not calculated for them, they are also outraged that they are not allowed to give birth, but where to give birth? More hungry mouths? And what kind of mother would want to give birth in that place, what would condemn the child to?

1st class - people who turned to the idea, early investors - they have the greatest rights, even if later they do not have money, they have ALREADY invested more than enough and other classes will not be on the scales with them.

And that's another story, not Atlas Shrugged, don't look for John Galt here.
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xDOCTORx
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26 Jun 2020, 20:11 #
Great Nintendo Switch advertisement 😍😅
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chakheinz
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06 Jul 2020, 21:01 #
Uhhh, well, LJ is pretty good. It's been a long time since I've been so annoyed by the heroines of TV series/movies
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S-putnik
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13 Jul 2020, 01:23 #
Remind me, which energy source is the train running on?
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Vitos_2021
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16 Jul 2020, 06:42 #
@fb389823: They created a perpetual motion machine.
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Victoria_Vi
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30 Jul 2020, 12:55 #
@fb389823: I understood that it works like this: in motion, they somehow recycle cold(?) They move into energy and due to this, and this process cannot be abandoned, because energy accumulation does not occur
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Legless
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04 Oct 2020, 10:38 #
@Victoria_Vi: > In motion, they somehow recycle the cold(?) Into energy

Suddenly, the conversion of cold into energy (more precisely, its transport from cold to warm) is the definition (one of) a "perpetual motion machine".
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FeykO
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19 Jan 2021, 04:24 #
@fb389823: the principle of the train. as I understand it, it is only on a magnetic cushion, although then an avalanche would have demolished it badly. in general, I have a lot of questions about this train)))

"Some models of electric trains are equipped with traction batteries, which allow them to be operated for a short time on sections without a contact rail; the batteries are recharged when the electric train is operating on electrified sections. Such electric trains, called contact-battery trains, are not widely used.
In 2017, Byron Bay in Australia created an electric train that receives energy from solar panels located on the roofs of its wagons and at intermediate stations. In sunny weather, the train can move without resorting to other energy sources; batteries are also provided for operation in cloudy weather[3].
The electrical equipment of electric trains depends on the type of current (DC, AC, dual-system electric trains), the type of traction motors (collector, asynchronous), the presence or absence of electric braking."
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hikeweek
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13 Jul 2020, 20:02 #
Before this episode, I didn't want the train to be hijacked, but her act of justifying this girl changed my mind
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Alisia07
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25 Jul 2020, 01:41 #
Eljay showed her sociopathic tendencies since childhood, and all her parents did was cherish their child, insert glass eyes instead of those that her daughter pokes out and then let them play with new eyes. This is, of course, prohibitive. I understand that everyone has their own child, but she will kill them someday, at this rate.
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Impending_Sky
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30 Jul 2020, 18:30 #
It's easy, but the fact is that parents are just as sick as their daughter, so even dying by her hand in their coordinate system is quite OK, which you can't do for your beloved daughter
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RareBouqueT
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13 Aug 2020, 23:10 #
The series has definitely picked up steam, as has the train. And it became exciting, which is good, besides the pictures and connelly!
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Phantasmat
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30 Jan 2021, 18:22 #
We've been driving around in circles for 6 years, and here you have to - the whole system is collapsing because of one maniac.
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I don't think getting rid of a corpse is such a big problem even in a closed train, the girl WANTED the bodies to be found in order to feel even more unpunished, and consider others even more stupid (who would think of a cute girl in a Sunday dress?)Moreover, last time everything was pushed onto a girl from the 3rd grade.
I hope Connelly doesn't let it go like that, and of course I'm NOT HINTING AT ANYTHING, but sometimes red-haired girls stumble and break their necks...
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egormorozovv
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26 Feb 2021, 21:29 #
@phantasmat: It was mentioned earlier that there were riots in previous years. The protest mood, again, was gaining momentum without her, judging by the first episodes, and this girl just added fire to the situation
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Akel
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26 Apr 2021, 17:26 #
@phantasmat: why calmly, we talked about 17 revolutions
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08 Mar 2022, 05:30 #
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Shameless
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09 Apr 2022, 23:58 #
@OUSMANEMAHAMADOU: Why was I called?
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LianaSkyfall
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23 Jun 2022, 19:17 #
Melanie made a terrible mistake, the girl will not be silent, but will later blackmail her. She should have been strangled right away after the trial. With this decision, she turned 90% of the train against herself, it would be much easier to calm the First Class, since there are fewer of them anyway, anyway, I still don't understand why they are so afraid. The decision to put Leighton in the Boxes also seems controversial to me, but we still do not know Melanie's secret in terms of what happened to Mr. Wilfred, so far I believe that with Leighton she had a chance to come to an agreement and arrange a mutual consultation with each other
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