Mdaa..politics is such a policy... well, at least it is known that there was information about the boxes. Well, now the tail has its own person in the second (now) class, this is a breakthrough))) and I also did not understand who was in the boxes? children who were sent to study?
@Draznilla: maybe not the children, but other people from the tail who were taken away earlier... because Miles went to school after all. People are needed to stir up experiments...
Yes, three children were taken from the tail, Miles is a potential engineer, so he was sent to school, and the other two were put in boxes (they were shown.)
when will Melanie's flashback be, who she is, what she did to Wilford, and so on. I understand that in my head not all (two people) agree with her policy, but for some reason she has power over them. what was the reason to oust Wilford, the struggle for equality, as the woman from the night carriage (Audrey?) said, that Melanie used to have a more democratic position. maybe Mr. Wilford himself is secretly in a drawer, otherwise where would he have gone from the train. and all these people that Josie found are experimental subjects in order to painlessly revive Wilford.... or not him, but other innocent people who may have been imprisoned by him undeservedly...
For some reason, it seems to me that Mr. Wilford is not on the train at all. It was said earlier that he was seen before landing, and after that not once.
@oxana0710: Maybe somewhere in the head of the train there is a separate single box specifically for Wilford. Although now it turns out that the boxes are some kind of experimental, so it's not clear if he would have risked going there himself.
Mdaaa, people remain people always and everywhere, in no way without political deals with the devil. In fact, the power of "Mr. Wilford" ends where the sphere of influence of the rich begins, Melanie's position is difficult. And it's clear that it's hard for her to carry it all. Therefore, apparently, she stopped trying to really change something over time. But damn, the decision to let a fucking sociopath go can have very serious consequences.
@EvilWizard: So no one seemed to claim that this was a prequel. Both the film and the series are adaptations of the original source, a French graphic novel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Transperceneige
@cat_pavel: That's how we've built up. What's next? I have already asked this question in the comments to the previous episodes... Now everything is on an equal footing... Only if the hope is that it will get warmer and it will be possible to get off the train, and then everyone will need their money again.
@Vitos84: I agree, initially their investments were necessary, but at the moment they have nothing. And classism has completely outlived itself. In my opinion, those people who have special skills and abilities are more important and valuable. The same third class is much more useful
@Vitos84: > Everyone will need their money there again
How can they be needed if in the post-world they will not be provided with anything (not even gold, but nothing at all)? What difference does it make how much money you have if it costs nothing (because there are no resources in the world at all)?
No matter how much they liked it, but without their money, EVERYONE would have died!!! The rest were taken by trailer under certain conditions! and the 3rd grade is like in the 2012 movie jumped like a hare! no one says that the 3rd grade is idiots, it's pure as in life there is a podcast of people!!! It's only been 7 years, not 100
@LenaSkom: Firstly, money, in any form, will not go anywhere anyway, yes, it will almost certainly not be "pieces of paper" or something like that, but something will still play the role of money, and they have more of this at the moment. Yes, even if everything goes to barter, they stupidly have an order of magnitude more goods for this very barter, i.e. someone from the "bottom" wants, for example, an mp3 player / a comfortable pillow or something else - the rich have it, so the poor are forced to work for them to get it.
Secondly, the established system supports itself, i.e., for example, only the rich have guards with weapons, so no one will dare to attack the rich. These same guards with guns, in turn, are also interested in maintaining the established order, because they also live in chocolate, but not as cool as the rich, but better than the vast majority of the rest. These guards have assistants who live a little worse, but they are still normal, and it also makes no sense for them to undermine the existing system, because they can lose much more, it is much more profitable for them to work hard and get promoted. Etc. down the social ladder
I can't understand why rich people are so short-sighted. Are you businessmen or what? The third and second class cannot live and worship you, based only on the fact that you sponsored the train. Yes, it is. so, you gave money, but in order for people not to rebel, you also need to motivate them with something, because, to be honest, now you are almost not bringing benefit to the train, because you do not work and do nothing. So that people remember that you invested money in this, and that you are not just greedy dudes from the first class, you also need to do something in return. It's just that so far the first class looks like very short-sighted idiots.
@EmmaMadison: Well, that's original... 1. if we abstract from the ideas of communism and equality... then the 2nd and 3rd grades are generally alive ONLY and EXCLUSIVELY thanks to the 1st grade. I hope this is obvious. 2. I hope it is also obvious that the 1st class will not serve itself - actually the 2nd and 3rd class were allowed on the train for this. No one claimed at the landing that there would be communism, equality and fraternity. I'm already silent about the stowaway shanks. 3. A person is such an ungrateful brute that living (literally, living - otherwise he would just die) is always not enough for him. And you can only take it away from those who have something.
In general, it would be fun to look at an alternative without shanks.
They would have put this maniac girl in the refrigerator, but to justify her... Melanie fucked up, of course. Now everyone will start to wonder what kind of secrets "Mr. Wilford" has.
@stewardtz: 1 and 2. Yes, it is, but they also bought/received (?) the ticket and if they were put on the train, then how should their opinions be taken into account. And it's not about communism and brotherhood, but the fact that you live inside one eco-system that functions thanks to each link.In this case, it is very stupid to pretend that the 2nd and 3rd class are some kind of inhumans and slaves, because a) there are more of them, B) they serve you, c) nevertheless, they differ less from you at the moment than in a capitalist society that has sunk into oblivion. As if in such circumstances, a riot is only a matter of time. Therefore, it is unclear why the image of "evil, rich and stupid" is again needed. 3. But the same applies only to hvostaviki. The rest got their place.
At the same time, you forget that the train has been traveling for 7 years and it is impossible to control people's consciousness simply by telling them that they say people from the first chipped in on the train. They are useless within the framework of the train. They do nothing but consume resources. They should understand this themselves and not engage in open confrontation with others.
@EmmaMadison: the standard human mindset is "I don't owe you anything".... "They are useless within the train" - I understand that you don't understand the main thing - THE TRAIN GENERALLY EXISTS IN NATURE ONLY THANKS TO FIRST CLASS. The 2nd and 3rd grades are alive only because of the 1st grade. Do you really not understand this causal relationship?
The 3rd class did not have tickets, they were taken for skills and for train maintenance. That was the deal, they agreed to work all their lives, but live. It was possible to disagree and not take the train, but it seems that the choice is obvious here. The second class, it seems to me, the same investors as the first, just invested less money. Look at how the woman in the tribunal from the 2nd was dressed. Also in the second class there are people of a "higher" profession, not turners, but doctors.
3 and the tail cannot claim equal rights to themselves. The tail is generally alive, out of mercy, resources were not calculated for them, they are also outraged that they are not allowed to give birth, but where to give birth? More hungry mouths? And what kind of mother would want to give birth in that place, what would condemn the child to?
1st class - people who turned to the idea, early investors - they have the greatest rights, even if later they do not have money, they have ALREADY invested more than enough and other classes will not be on the scales with them.
And that's another story, not Atlas Shrugged, don't look for John Galt here.
@fb389823: I understood that it works like this: in motion, they somehow recycle cold(?) They move into energy and due to this, and this process cannot be abandoned, because energy accumulation does not occur
@Victoria_Vi: > In motion, they somehow recycle the cold(?) Into energy
Suddenly, the conversion of cold into energy (more precisely, its transport from cold to warm) is the definition (one of) a "perpetual motion machine".
@fb389823: the principle of the train. as I understand it, it is only on a magnetic cushion, although then an avalanche would have demolished it badly. in general, I have a lot of questions about this train)))
"Some models of electric trains are equipped with traction batteries, which allow them to be operated for a short time on sections without a contact rail; the batteries are recharged when the electric train is operating on electrified sections. Such electric trains, called contact-battery trains, are not widely used. In 2017, Byron Bay in Australia created an electric train that receives energy from solar panels located on the roofs of its wagons and at intermediate stations. In sunny weather, the train can move without resorting to other energy sources; batteries are also provided for operation in cloudy weather[3]. The electrical equipment of electric trains depends on the type of current (DC, AC, dual-system electric trains), the type of traction motors (collector, asynchronous), the presence or absence of electric braking."
Eljay showed her sociopathic tendencies since childhood, and all her parents did was cherish their child, insert glass eyes instead of those that her daughter pokes out and then let them play with new eyes. This is, of course, prohibitive. I understand that everyone has their own child, but she will kill them someday, at this rate.
It's easy, but the fact is that parents are just as sick as their daughter, so even dying by her hand in their coordinate system is quite OK, which you can't do for your beloved daughter
We've been driving around in circles for 6 years, and here you have to - the whole system is collapsing because of one maniac. _______________________ I don't think getting rid of a corpse is such a big problem even in a closed train, the girl WANTED the bodies to be found in order to feel even more unpunished, and consider others even more stupid (who would think of a cute girl in a Sunday dress?)Moreover, last time everything was pushed onto a girl from the 3rd grade. I hope Connelly doesn't let it go like that, and of course I'm NOT HINTING AT ANYTHING, but sometimes red-haired girls stumble and break their necks...
@phantasmat: It was mentioned earlier that there were riots in previous years. The protest mood, again, was gaining momentum without her, judging by the first episodes, and this girl just added fire to the situation
Melanie made a terrible mistake, the girl will not be silent, but will later blackmail her. She should have been strangled right away after the trial. With this decision, she turned 90% of the train against herself, it would be much easier to calm the First Class, since there are fewer of them anyway, anyway, I still don't understand why they are so afraid. The decision to put Leighton in the Boxes also seems controversial to me, but we still do not know Melanie's secret in terms of what happened to Mr. Wilfred, so far I believe that with Leighton she had a chance to come to an agreement and arrange a mutual consultation with each other
and I also did not understand who was in the boxes? children who were sent to study?
and all these people that Josie found are experimental subjects in order to painlessly revive Wilford.... or not him, but other innocent people who may have been imprisoned by him undeservedly...
We are waiting for the continuation of political games on the train..
oxana0710
June 14, 2020, 19:51
maybe Mr. Wilford himself is secretly in a drawer, otherwise where would he have gone from the train.
I will not be surprised if it is shown in the last episode at the end of the series as someone will find it and stay out of the box
How can they be needed if in the post-world they will not be provided with anything (not even gold, but nothing at all)? What difference does it make how much money you have if it costs nothing (because there are no resources in the world at all)?
Secondly, the established system supports itself, i.e., for example, only the rich have guards with weapons, so no one will dare to attack the rich. These same guards with guns, in turn, are also interested in maintaining the established order, because they also live in chocolate, but not as cool as the rich, but better than the vast majority of the rest. These guards have assistants who live a little worse, but they are still normal, and it also makes no sense for them to undermine the existing system, because they can lose much more, it is much more profitable for them to work hard and get promoted.
Etc. down the social ladder
In general, I see it all somehow like this)))
It's just that so far the first class looks like very short-sighted idiots.
1. if we abstract from the ideas of communism and equality... then the 2nd and 3rd grades are generally alive ONLY and EXCLUSIVELY thanks to the 1st grade. I hope this is obvious.
2. I hope it is also obvious that the 1st class will not serve itself - actually the 2nd and 3rd class were allowed on the train for this. No one claimed at the landing that there would be communism, equality and fraternity. I'm already silent about the stowaway shanks.
3. A person is such an ungrateful brute that living (literally, living - otherwise he would just die) is always not enough for him. And you can only take it away from those who have something.
In general, it would be fun to look at an alternative without shanks.
3. But the same applies only to hvostaviki. The rest got their place.
At the same time, you forget that the train has been traveling for 7 years and it is impossible to control people's consciousness simply by telling them that they say people from the first chipped in on the train. They are useless within the framework of the train. They do nothing but consume resources. They should understand this themselves and not engage in open confrontation with others.
"They are useless within the train" - I understand that you don't understand the main thing - THE TRAIN GENERALLY EXISTS IN NATURE ONLY THANKS TO FIRST CLASS. The 2nd and 3rd grades are alive only because of the 1st grade. Do you really not understand this causal relationship?
3 and the tail cannot claim equal rights to themselves. The tail is generally alive, out of mercy, resources were not calculated for them, they are also outraged that they are not allowed to give birth, but where to give birth? More hungry mouths? And what kind of mother would want to give birth in that place, what would condemn the child to?
1st class - people who turned to the idea, early investors - they have the greatest rights, even if later they do not have money, they have ALREADY invested more than enough and other classes will not be on the scales with them.
And that's another story, not Atlas Shrugged, don't look for John Galt here.
Suddenly, the conversion of cold into energy (more precisely, its transport from cold to warm) is the definition (one of) a "perpetual motion machine".
"Some models of electric trains are equipped with traction batteries, which allow them to be operated for a short time on sections without a contact rail; the batteries are recharged when the electric train is operating on electrified sections. Such electric trains, called contact-battery trains, are not widely used.
In 2017, Byron Bay in Australia created an electric train that receives energy from solar panels located on the roofs of its wagons and at intermediate stations. In sunny weather, the train can move without resorting to other energy sources; batteries are also provided for operation in cloudy weather[3].
The electrical equipment of electric trains depends on the type of current (DC, AC, dual-system electric trains), the type of traction motors (collector, asynchronous), the presence or absence of electric braking."
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I don't think getting rid of a corpse is such a big problem even in a closed train, the girl WANTED the bodies to be found in order to feel even more unpunished, and consider others even more stupid (who would think of a cute girl in a Sunday dress?)Moreover, last time everything was pushed onto a girl from the 3rd grade.
I hope Connelly doesn't let it go like that, and of course I'm NOT HINTING AT ANYTHING, but sometimes red-haired girls stumble and break their necks...