@skakunchik: plus, I also immediately remember the scene with the shot from the finale of the second season. I still remember it clearly, the production is wonderful.
And yet their relationship is strange... There seems to be sympathy and attraction, but the fact that in public they behave like strangers is such a guarantee of success. It would be nice if Connell's friends didn't make fun of Marianne. After all, she is probably more offended in this whole situation not by what these friends are saying, but by the fact that Connell does not stop their actions. He doesn't seem to realize what he should have done in this and other similar situations. In general, I don't know what good they can do in the end with such a start.
@k1ryusha: They also agreed that their relationship would be kept secret. If Connel stood up for Marianne, then their secret would be immediately revealed and off she went... It's either one or the other.
@Utkonosik: I didn't see anything special there.. I can't understand the excitement. Now every second movie with a bed scene is not worse, or even better
What kind of love is everyone writing about? They barely know each other (as individuals), the whole development of the characters' relationship lies in sex positions. The screenwriters did not bother and limited themselves to a dialogue about how Marianne would like to "watch him have sex with another." You can close your eyes to the fact that the guy does not protect her at school - everything is logical here, their affair is a secret. But when he openly says that he will miss their sex, Marianne kisses him and offers to go to him. So the girl doesn't care that she's being used? Where are the feelings here, excuse me? Some kind of caricature.
Marianne obviously knows about love and sex only from books. The only thing that confuses me about the character is that she doesn't seem to be a feminist at all (in the first episode, this fact was noted). That's why she's wearing pink glasses.
@teplanebudet: I had an assumption that the translation was not entirely accurate. In the original, she pronounces the word sleeping with me instead of sex, which literally translates as "sleeping with me." and here it is twofold what is meant by this: 1. to sleep together in the plural, that is, we are talking specifically about sex 2. Sleeping together is a kind of relationship with feelings, which collectively includes sex. this cannot be called a relationship in full, since they are hidden and, in principle, did not reveal deeper feelings, but this is already something more than mutual sympathy (which they both confessed to each other and now realize in meetings involving sex).
I may be inaccurate in translation, but the idea that the characters began to freely pronounce the word "sex" in the presence of each other, but at this moment it was "sleep" that was used, does not let go.
An excellent series on the details: the taxi in the reflection on which Marianne arrived at the beginning and the dialogue at the end of the series was shot simply bombically! In the close-up of Connell, the camera sways a little bit, holding a clear plan of the back of the house, this emphasizes his firmness and a real lack of understanding of his feelings. Close-up on Marianne: the camera is unstable, wobbly, the background is blurred, as if in a fog, Marianne is on the verge of an emotional explosion inside. The camerawork here is just bravo!
Some kind of abnormal relationship. He does not want to tell anyone that they are dating, does not protect her from the attacks of others, but apparently everything suits her, since she forgives him for such an attitude towards herself.
@olgakornelyuk: they are very abnormal, she puts herself strangely with him: she herself offered to keep a secret, and constantly seems to emphasize that she only needs a bed from him, and she is generally fine if he likes other girls or he sleeps with someone. Well, maybe this is how he tries to bring him out to "no, no, I need you alone and love to the grave in general!" - but a boy with a clearly immature psyche, and in general men say they are not strong in understanding such hints)
@Shi3andra: It's true about guys. As a child, I was friends with one girl for ten years, we walked in the yard only together, she invited me to her birthdays, wanted to transfer to my school, she sometimes inadvertently kissed me, her friends constantly asked me if I loved her, and I replied that I was just friends with her. As a result, ten years after I last saw her, she told me that she loved me then. It was a great discovery for me. So yes, the male part of humanity is developing slower than the female in this regard.
finally, at least somewhere adequately showed scenes of respectful safe teenage sex by mutual desire, which begins with foreplay and during which it is pleasant not only for the guy, but also for the girl. a big plus for the series for this!
@lil_sebastian: It's a big plus that in recent years the series have started to show this way! more precisely, they show something else, but in the actions of negative characters, that this is actually not normal.
@Darula: I understand what you mean! it is really strange that teenagers can be so immature and so ridiculous to show their feelings, but at the same time have sex in such a competent and safe way. but, on the other hand, this is exactly the state of affairs that can be achieved if, from an early age, parents adequately talk to children about sex, without fairy tales about storks and cabbage, and sex education lessons will be the norm at school. teenagers will always behave stupidly and infantile, but it would be great if they were as enlightened about sex as Connell and Marianne: there will be many times fewer early pregnancies and cases of STDs.
The fact that Connell did not stand up for Maryann is certainly unpleasant. But he also didn't stand up for his mom when his friend mocked her. That his mother works as a cleaner and is called by a bell. It seems that he can't say anything against his friends at all...
Is that true?! He just sat there and listened to his friends throw mud at her. So far, I have not got into the Main Character at all. But Marianne's character is very interesting.
— You don't express your opinion at all. — You just have an opinion about everything. "But you have to know how you feel." - no. Actually, I have a problem with that. Sometimes I look back and... think about how I felt back then, but... I have no idea how I feel. "Then how do you know what you want?" — I don't understand. Most of the time I do not know what I want.
"I can go back to something in my memory and understand what I felt then, but when it happens, I have no idea.." - damn, it's such a life, just exactly.
Oh... How familiar it is to me. During my school years, when I met my first love, we also hid our relationship for about six months. Why and why? I still can't explain it to myself. Except I was kind of cool, and the guy was quiet and calm. Apparently, happiness loved silence, in our case.
I'm stuck on the visual of the series, its atmosphere and musical design. I really like it. The bed scenes are shot sensually and aesthetically. I was pleased with their awareness, in the sense that they noted the moment about protection. And I was also pleased with the guy's care for the girl and the fact that he calmed her down before the first time. In reality, unfortunately, it's not going so well, for the most part.
To the soundtrack, I immediately stuck two favorite songs "Hide and Seek" from Imogen Hip, which has been etched into my memory since the days of the OC and Elliot Smith's "Angeles", which I remember from "Supernatural" (Jensen Ackles covered it). The series practically put me in a trance state.
Regarding the plot, the whole situation with friends and the fact that Marianne was called names is unpleasant. But it's understandable why Connell didn't stand up. First, they agreed that their relationship would be a secret. Secondly, he himself has not yet realized how he feels about her. There is no love as such yet, there is a fascination with each other. They only get to know each other. But the end of the series outlined the first difficulty in their relationship. They clearly want the same thing, but due to inexperience in the relationship, they do not know how to convey their thoughts to each other. And this is quite natural for teenagers. So, the first misunderstandings have already started. We look further, while we like everything.
The characters are very emotionally closed, so it's hard for them to admit feelings for each other, they scare them very much, and both convince themselves that everything that happens between them is sex, and both pretend that everything suits everyone. But in fact, it is such a rarity when there is a harmonious connection, both mental and chemical, when people are attracted to each other and they just feel good next to each other. It is a pity that due to mental trauma it is difficult to express what you really feel, appreciate these feelings and defend, if necessary, in front of other people
Babies, stop feeling sorry for her. Oh, she was insulted, oh, he didn't stand up for her! She demands it herself, she just screams about such an attitude towards her. She thinks they're fools, but she doesn't keep silent — which would be smarter, but spits bile. She doesn't know any other way to attract attention. Everyone gets what they deserve.
I liked the book extremely. I decided to watch the 2020 TV series. Rooney is an Irish writer, and the film was shot in Ireland. It is a rare occurrence that the film did not spoil the book. Moreover, he brought an emotional coloring to the generally ascetic text.
I wonder which will be stronger: love or public opinion?
And it's a shame for Marianne, and Connell isn't even trying to do anything.
In the original, she pronounces the word sleeping with me instead of sex, which literally translates as "sleeping with me."
and here it is twofold what is meant by this:
1. to sleep together in the plural, that is, we are talking specifically about sex
2. Sleeping together is a kind of relationship with feelings, which collectively includes sex. this cannot be called a relationship in full, since they are hidden and, in principle, did not reveal deeper feelings, but this is already something more than mutual sympathy (which they both confessed to each other and now realize in meetings involving sex).
I may be inaccurate in translation, but the idea that the characters began to freely pronounce the word "sex" in the presence of each other, but at this moment it was "sleep" that was used, does not let go.
How annoying Alan is, Marianne's brother!
In general, it's a pity that we have such a relationship.
— You just have an opinion about everything.
"But you have to know how you feel."
- no. Actually, I have a problem with that. Sometimes I look back and... think about how I felt back then, but... I have no idea how I feel.
"Then how do you know what you want?"
— I don't understand. Most of the time I do not know what I want.
— Stop it.
During my school years, when I met my first love, we also hid our relationship for about six months. Why and why? I still can't explain it to myself.
Except I was kind of cool, and the guy was quiet and calm.
Apparently, happiness loved silence, in our case.
To the soundtrack, I immediately stuck two favorite songs "Hide and Seek" from Imogen Hip, which has been etched into my memory since the days of the OC and Elliot Smith's "Angeles", which I remember from "Supernatural" (Jensen Ackles covered it). The series practically put me in a trance state.
Regarding the plot, the whole situation with friends and the fact that Marianne was called names is unpleasant. But it's understandable why Connell didn't stand up. First, they agreed that their relationship would be a secret. Secondly, he himself has not yet realized how he feels about her. There is no love as such yet, there is a fascination with each other. They only get to know each other. But the end of the series outlined the first difficulty in their relationship. They clearly want the same thing, but due to inexperience in the relationship, they do not know how to convey their thoughts to each other. And this is quite natural for teenagers. So, the first misunderstandings have already started. We look further, while we like everything.
Is it the same further, or does it make sense to look further?
She demands it herself, she just screams about such an attitude towards her. She thinks they're fools, but she doesn't keep silent — which would be smarter, but spits bile. She doesn't know any other way to attract attention.
Everyone gets what they deserve.
Gg looks like Anne Hathaway very much 😍