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s03e07
s02e08 - Enden und Anfänge
s03e01 - Déjà-vu
s03e02 - Die Überlebende
s03e03 - Adam und Eva
s03e04 - Der Ursprung
s03e05 - Leben und Tod
s03e06 - Licht und Schatten
s03e07 - Zwischen der Zeit
s03e08 - Das Paradies

Discussion: Season 3, Episode 7
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ia_gol
ia_gol
27 Jun 2020, 20:26 #
There are so many things, I don't know about you, personally, I'm shocked from all the turns, I didn't even imagine that Silja would be Hannah's daughter... In general, once again I would like to say that the people who were engaged in the selection of actors did their job just perfectly, because it's wonderful!!👏🏽

There's only one episode left, I can't believe there's going to be an end, though... The end is the beginning, and the beginning is the end... 🤔
ia_gol
ia_gol
05 Jul 2020, 18:54 #
@ia_gol: by the way, an interesting fact. Have you not forgotten about the source, the man who was "not named"? So, the actor playing the average man (if you can call him that) is the son of the one who plays the elderly 😱 Well, if you didn't know, the actor playing the young Peter is also the son of the actor who played Peter in 2019/2020 🤯
andi
andi
27 Jun 2020, 20:58 #
I wouldn't mind if someone edited the seasons in the order of life of at least the same Jonas)) well, or at least the usual chronological one. But here... different versions, different years, different worlds... Hats off to the creators
roman_belyaev
roman_belyaev
01 Jul 2020, 23:12 #
@andi: on YouTube, take a look at the analysis of the seasons in chronological order. 10 minutes and the chronology is in front of you.
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
27 Jun 2020, 21:29 #
That's all looped up and how perfectly they did it, goosebumps. Of course, fans have long predicted that Bartosz is Ulrich's ancestor with Jonas, and Hannah is Silja's mother, but I still can't stop wondering how they are all connected). Claudia is a smart girl, the only one who was able to break this chain and stop listening to someone.
Necromantica
Necromantica
01 Jul 2020, 08:00 #
@Santajul: I stopped listening, but what has changed? Anyway, everything is according to plan, the apocalypse, and Regina is dead((
Necromantica
Necromantica
02 Jul 2020, 01:54 #
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snowhite
snowhite
06 Jul 2020, 15:52 #
))0 the second comment is not appropriate at all
aziza_funky
aziza_funky
30 Oct 2021, 13:03 #
@SantaJul: Did you not understand how Bartosz is Ulrich's ancestor?
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
30 Oct 2021, 17:36 #
Bartosz and Silja had Agnes Nielsen, who had Tronte, Ulrich's father.
Ps Google the "Scheme of the TV series Darkness", this is in case something else is not clear😉
kurova2013
kurova2013
27 Jun 2020, 22:17 #
My brain just exploded. It's so gorgeous that I can't even describe it.
еxprisee
еxprisee
27 Jun 2020, 22:43 #
"Isn't it strange that people feel the most disgust towards those who look like them the most?"
polinafield
polinafield
28 Jun 2020, 00:14 #
My God, I haven't even seen so many dates in a history textbook.
It's all so cool, but super confusing, but so cool.....
All these connections just make your brain explode
It turns out that Silja is the daughter of Hannah and Egon, respectively, she is the sister of Jonas and Claudia. Jonas is Agnes's uncle, and Agnes is some kind of distant grandmother of Jonas....
Elik33
Elik33
PRO
28 Jun 2020, 01:56 #
Yeah, from all these cycles, my head is really spinning already)). I want to celebrate the ending again, it's just wonderful..
OUKF
OUKF
PRO
28 Jun 2020, 03:57 #
@polinafield: So Silja is the daughter of Hannah and Egon, Egon is Claudia's father, Claudia is Bartosz's grandmother, Bartosz = Silja's step-grandson? :)
so to think, all relatives to each other))
polinafield
polinafield
28 Jun 2020, 11:14 #
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tesyak
tesyak
14 Jul 2020, 04:42 #
@polinafield: The normal ending was spoilered. Do not read the comment above
auestik
auestik
16 Jul 2020, 16:53 #
What a terrible thing you did... spoil the finale for people. fucking
last_edited
last_edited
13 Aug 2020, 02:42 #
@OUKF: sorry, a little correction: Bartosz is Silja's half-grandson👉👈
If you think about him like that, it's generally a bigger brain explosion than Jonas, who, by the way, is Bartosz's great-great-grandson. Noah and Agnes are Bartosz's children, but also half-uncle and aunt, and Charlotte is his second cousin and granddaughter at the same time.
Francisca is Bartosz's great-granddaughter, if we consider her to be Elizabeth and Noah's granddaughter /and Elizabeth is generally her own granddaughter, and in this case Francisca is Magnus's great-aunt/. And Marta is Bartosh's great-great-granddaughter, which is also fun))
ackermanswhore
ackermanswhore
28 Jun 2020, 02:21 #
Okay, I'm already tired of counting how many times my brain has given an error all day long.
Sheeva
Sheeva
PRO
28 Jun 2020, 02:39 #
My God, at least something has formed in my head now, some kind of chronology.
Hanno = Noah (almost an anagram) and Agnes are the children of Bartosz (he had such an awesome face when he realized that Hanno was Noah) and Sili, that's one pedigree and closed. Even the degree of kinship to each cannot be unambiguously determined.
I still can't stop admiring the cast, and how the characters are similar at different ages anyway. I used to think that a teenager Jonas and a mature Jonas did not look alike in appearance, but a slightly mature Jonas (about when he tried to hang himself) and a mature Jonas without a beard suddenly looked alike! And Bartosz is generally a copy.
The Book of the Mysteries of the "Charmed" is all in the hands.
Simon__di
Simon__di
04 Jul 2020, 17:22 #
@Sheeva: >The Book of Mysteries of the "Charmed Ones"
forgot to write this in their comments. Thank you for mentioning it!
kiprian_zhurov
kiprian_zhurov
28 Jun 2020, 02:42 #
in general, this could be the end)
I wonder what the creators have prepared for the last
id391845382
id391845382
28 Jun 2020, 02:43 #
Heh, Jonas broke off)))
ackermanswhore
ackermanswhore
28 Jun 2020, 02:53 #
тупо Бартош, когда услышал имя ребëнка: "at this moment he knew he fucked up"
Soko
Soko
28 Jun 2020, 16:15 #
@bellarkesdesire: I didn't understand this point a bit. It turns out that Bartosz already knew that Hanno = Noah. When was he told about this? I don't remember Noah telling Bartosz his real name.
glam
glam
04 Jul 2020, 03:17 #
@Soko: I think it was meant that he was surprised not by the name of his son, but by the name of his daughter, since Agnes was his great-grandmother's name.
ashviki
ashviki
05 Jul 2020, 16:09 #
He said he knew Noah's name was Noah. And that's why he had such a face.
tesyak
tesyak
14 Jul 2020, 04:45 #
@glam: but his daughter was born years later, and by that time he had already understood everything.
But I also don't understand how
glam
glam
21 Jul 2020, 04:50 #
@tesyak: I was referring to the scene when Bartosz burst into the room after the birth of his daughter, and her name was called to him (the name was given by the mother at death).
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
22 Jul 2020, 17:55 #
His great-grandmother? Actually, Agnes is the great-grandmother of Magnus, Martha and Mikkel. And I doubt he knew her name.
iamyourpathos
iamyourpathos
24 Jul 2020, 00:52 #
@SantaJul: She is also his great-grandmother, since Tronte has children with both Jana (Nielsen) and Claudia (Tiedemann). But it is unlikely that Bartosz knew about this. Perhaps he was familiar with the history of the city and recognized familiar names?
iamyourpathos
iamyourpathos
24 Jul 2020, 01:33 #
In general, only the last sentence in my comment matters)
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
24 Jul 2020, 03:15 #
That's it). But even if we imagine for a moment that Tronte is Regina's father, as we remember, Claudia did not tell her daughter about this, and Bartosz certainly could not know this. I think it's just a bunch of screenwriters, from the category: Figure it out for yourself)
Earth_02
Earth_02
08 Oct 2020, 13:17 #
@glam: Bartosz's great-grandmother is Doris Tideman, but Agnes is Ulrich's great-grandmother
LiliyaLeto
LiliyaLeto
PRO
23 Nov 2020, 00:57 #
She is Ulrich's grandmother, not his great-grandmother. She's his father's mother.
herzenslust
herzenslust
28 Jun 2020, 03:50 #
Of course, they were very clever with family ties.

I remember thinking that Noah was the greatest evil, and now knowing all of his Istria, I'm incredibly sorry.

By the way, the old Adam turned out to be even creeper than the oldest Adam
seriesomniac
seriesomniac
05 Jul 2020, 07:07 #
@herzenslust: Creep is not the right word! It's like I've seen some kind of horror movie.
Оливка
Оливка
25 Aug 2020, 18:24 #
@seriesomniac: I'll have nightmares about you at night - how the "old Adam" sneaks into my room at night to sit on top of me and strangle me with his bare hands!(((
Nagini_177
Nagini_177
31 Aug 2020, 03:05 #
My son calls Adam Deadpool's dad.
He's not looking, he noticed it as he passed by.
And I agree with you, the old one is downright creepy.
anni713
anni713
13 Sep 2020, 21:21 #
The way he looked at his mother and took her hand away from her face - there was a blankness in his gaze. The Broken Man
renatamarten
renatamarten
19 Sep 2020, 00:54 #
@herzenslust: Fantomas straight)
RileyDay
RileyDay
04 Jan 2021, 17:46 #
@herzenslust: and it turns out that he wanted to create a time machine to find his daughter, which is why he killed children, if I understood everything correctly, of course...
OUKF
OUKF
PRO
28 Jun 2020, 03:58 #
I will be very disappointed if Voller's eyes and hands do not reveal the secret)))
polinafield
polinafield
28 Jun 2020, 11:17 #
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polinafield
polinafield
06 Jul 2020, 23:55 #
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Sheeva
Sheeva
PRO
08 Jul 2020, 00:06 #
@polinafield: because you have spoilered. The little man on episode 7 still had hope to find out the secret of Weller's eye, and after you've looked at everything, go to the comments for previous episodes and answer questions that you shouldn't know the answers to.
vk1024945
vk1024945
06 Jan 2021, 16:50 #
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Гамулятор
Гамулятор
20 Dec 2022, 19:32 #
@Sheeva: as the elderly cleaner at our company said, "How gentle everyone has become, there is no one to send."
Soko
Soko
28 Jun 2020, 04:21 #
Jonas Schrodinger lol.
It was very sad when the loop was viewed at an accelerated rate. How naively Jonas believed that he could fix something.
kobiii
kobiii
PRO
28 Jun 2020, 05:23 #
What a series! After the last one, where there were 4 or 5 Martha in one scene, I wanted many answers and then we tried to put everything on the shelves, it turned out very well.
How Jonas became Adam is tough, of course. Especially the moment of the conversation with Bartosz, there are already such changes. Hannah had done a lot of things, but she was sorry, Adam had gone completely. In general, almost everyone from the mainstream world ended up badly.. I'm glad that Claudia seems to play a role, otherwise at some point I thought she was just a pawn of Eve. The finale promises to be very interesting
igruk
igruk
28 Jun 2020, 07:56 #
What a masterpiece, after all. Such a complicated and confusing scenario, but at the same time thought out to the smallest detail.
_Nala_
_Nala_
28 Jun 2020, 09:33 #
When I accelerated the loop, I caught creepy flashbacks, but looking from a different angle is something indescribable.
katherine_e
katherine_e
28 Jun 2020, 09:35 #
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Destiny_Ocean
Destiny_Ocean
PRO
28 Jun 2020, 12:29 #
Hats off to the creators, I think I'll have to review the whole series again to put everything in my head. Everything is interconnected. The fates of Martha and Jonas are mirrored, and no matter what they do, everything repeats itself over and over again. And Claudia is really cool, she decided to go her own way.

Interestingly, the actions of the heroes (the same creator of the time machine) are dictated by longing for loved ones.
LissLiss
LissLiss
28 Jun 2020, 13:30 #
I still don't understand anything.
emily-prentiss
emily-prentiss
28 Jun 2020, 15:15 #
my brain is completely baked, I will now wait for the analysis
emily-prentiss
emily-prentiss
28 Jun 2020, 15:22 #
and at this point, I want to remember about the detective who appeared in season 2 and suspected Alexander of missing his brother. I thought it would come up for a reason in season 3, and they focused attention on that photo with my brother... and now they don't even remember about it at all
OUKF
OUKF
PRO
28 Jun 2020, 15:58 #
@emily-prentiss: I've already thought about this moment too) the whole line with the detective was needed only to lead to barrels in the nuclear power plant, which leads to the apocalypse. In the third season in an alternate world, Alexander himself admits that the detective line is not needed) that's how it all seemed to me
Earth_02
Earth_02
08 Oct 2020, 13:37 #
@emily-prentiss: plus, it became obvious that the letter was written to him by Origin
gkalian
gkalian
28 Jun 2020, 15:48 #
Usually in TV series, a flashback and a brief description of the series are made at the beginning of the season. But no, not in the Dark. It was at the end of the penultimate episode that we were all reminded (at least it helped me remember how Magnus and co ended up in the past) very briefly how everything was. This is all twisted, tied on top of each other. An endless cycle.
_holyhell
_holyhell
28 Jun 2020, 19:08 #
@gkalian: there is a recap of season 2 of darkness on Netflix, it is just before the start of the third season
gkalian
gkalian
28 Jun 2020, 19:41 #
@_holyhell: Yes? I have to look for it, I've never looked at it. Thanks!
EmilD
EmilD
28 Jun 2020, 20:26 #
Okay, everything seems to be clear, but there are still questions, where did the diary come from???
What experiments did Noah conduct?
If the device is broken, how did Jonas move to 2019, with the help of a particle of god or something?
templesin11
templesin11
29 Jun 2020, 17:23 #
@EmilD: it was shown in previous episodes that the diary was written by the son of Martha and Jonas (who walks in three guises). Only after that I got completely confused, how he got his hands on it... And I don't quite understand the adventures of Charlotte's watch either. It turns out that the Source killed Tannhaus (the father of the blind boy), who had a watch (this is their family heirloom, I understand), then brought them to Eva, she gave them to the adult Marta, who brought them to the adult Jonas in 1888 along with a letter. And.. and then where? How did they get to Noah, how did they end up with little Charlotte in 1986??? Eh... So far, the only item with which everything is clear is the St. Christopher medallion.
Darula
Darula
PRO
09 Jul 2020, 02:13 #
@templesin11: How the watch got to Noah is also unclear to me. But as for little Charlotte, the old man of the Townhouse told him, they brought him Charlotte with a watch, they even showed us how Charlotte an adult takes them out of bed in 2040.
id62244360
id62244360
06 Nov 2020, 21:36 #
@templesin11: it seems that I watched the series quite carefully, but I only found out that the three creep types who crumble everyone in different time periods are the son of Martha and Jonas))) thanks ...tin of course the series got caught
nymphay
nymphay
03 Jul 2020, 20:47 #
It's a mystery to me how Hanno returned to the 20s from the 2040s (when Charlotte was kidnapped), because Claudia specifically kept that clot "inactive" there. Through the aisle? Did everyone really choose to live in a post-apocalyptic time all this time, when it was possible to move through the passage, as Hanno did? And I think old Claudia somehow planted that diary after she tore out the pages, I hope they'll show us how.
YuliaDiadko
YuliaDiadko
28 Jun 2020, 21:05 #
I felt so sad at the flashback moment when everything was explained to us. Jonas, who tried to save everything, Noah... Everything is meaningless now
Vitos_2021
Vitos_2021
PRO
29 Jun 2020, 02:34 #
There's only 1 episode ahead, and I'm even more confused))
Vasiys
Vasiys
25 Feb 2025, 20:53 #
@Vitos_2021: Yes, the series seems to be ending soon, but so far it has not become easier, as there was confusion and speculation, and they remained. I hope the last episode will set the record straight and the finale will be cool.
ufo_passenger
ufo_passenger
29 Jun 2020, 05:01 #
I remembered)
Оливка
Оливка
25 Aug 2020, 18:26 #
@andrewenka: What kind of movie is this?)
evrika
evrika
26 Aug 2020, 01:07 #
The Ballads of Buster Scrubs by the Coen Brothers
kacamuk
kacamuk
PRO
29 Jun 2020, 06:45 #
stop. And where did the other old Claudia come from?
kacamuk
kacamuk
PRO
29 Jun 2020, 18:22 #
OK, I scrolled through Claudia's timeline. Old Claudia first told Adam everything in 2053, and only then went to 86 met with herself young and after that in 1921 where Noah killed her
Simon__di
Simon__di
04 Jul 2020, 17:26 #
@kacamuk: thank you very much! That's why I decided to read the comments!
Syoz
Syoz
11 Jul 2020, 23:18 #
I didn't see the moment where Noah killed Claudia at all, can you please remind me when it was
odyugay
odyugay
12 Jul 2020, 17:18 #
In my opinion, it was in season 2. First, old Claudia came to her father and asked for forgiveness. And then Noah killed her to take the pages of the diary that she tore out.
cvetok
cvetok
PRO
05 Dec 2022, 10:22 #
Yes, Agnes betrayed her in order to get back to Adam.
TheRiddler-
TheRiddler-
29 Jun 2020, 13:03 #
In 2018, an adult Noah puts his own young father, Bartosz, in his car, and gives him instructions, after which everything turns and turns, and Bartosz, with his help, eventually gives birth to Noah himself. I love the Darkness :))
TheRiddler-
TheRiddler-
29 Jun 2020, 13:23 #
guys! Do you remember the moment from the second season when the younger Noah hacked down an adult man near the cave, and everyone suspected that it was an adult Bartosh? I found this moment again, and yes, it was Bartosz! And do you know what he said before Noah killed him? "I've been waiting for this moment for a long time. It's funny that it should have been you" :((

Everyone guessed that it was an adult Bartosz, but it's sad that he will be killed (killed) his own son😢
LaFleur
LaFleur
01 Jul 2020, 23:02 #
@TheRiddler-: I don't really understand why Noah, who is even younger than Hanno, why does he kill his father? They didn't seem to have any strong conflict, or they didn't show it to us. Hanno is listening to his own older version, maybe he persuaded him (again, why).. But this is a weak motivation, it seems to me, to kill my own father)
Darula
Darula
PRO
09 Jul 2020, 02:15 #
@LaFleur: initiation into Sic Mundus?.. Prove that you are committed to the cause...
Seraph6
Seraph6
08 Aug 2020, 12:46 #
@LaFleur: Adam ordered young Noah to eliminate Bartosz, as he had lost faith and began to doubt.
Earth_02
Earth_02
08 Oct 2020, 13:41 #
@Seraph6: it's strange to generally trust Bati's friend more than bati himself and just like that to easily fuck him, they, it turns out, lived there all this time, working on the car O_o
cvetok
cvetok
PRO
05 Dec 2022, 10:24 #
Well, Noah kills Bartosz's father, and later Agnes kills her brother Noah. Family violence(
g1401244
g1401244
14 Feb 17:37 #
@cvetok: Claudia kills her father, Jonas kills his mother, Katarina's mother kills her daughter. It's terrible. Everyone is related to each other, even to the fact that the daughter gave birth to her mother. And at the same time, a bunch of family killers.
Asselyaai
Asselyaai
29 Jun 2020, 15:49 #
Yeah, until the third season, I thought that the line "mother, daughter of her daughter" was the most confusing, but in the third season, the line surprised Bartosz, of course...Bartosz was friends with his great-grandchildren))) grandfather (Ulrich's father) Bartosha is his grandson. But Ulrich's father is Agnes ' son, and did she give birth to him by Noah(her brother)?
YoTha
YoTha
30 Jun 2020, 13:34 #
@Asselyaai: Bartosz is his own great-great-grandfather. He is Agnes's father, Tronte's grandfather and Regina's great-grandfather.
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
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01 Jul 2020, 02:40 #
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kristen_mars25
kristen_mars25
01 Jul 2020, 03:05 #
Probably because Tronte is probably Regina's father. We were not shown anyone else as her father.
exarians-y
exarians-y
01 Jul 2020, 05:47 #
@SantaJul: In the second episode, Tronte is listed on the family tree as Regina's father
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
01 Jul 2020, 19:36 #
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cvetok
cvetok
PRO
05 Dec 2022, 10:29 #
https://dark.netflix.io/en
If you enter season 3, episode 7 (without spoilers), then Tronte has long been listed as Regina's father. This was hinted to us when he was driving Regina and the dog home when Claudia disappeared.
ОльгаМ
ОльгаМ
16 Dec 2022, 12:10 #
@kristen_mars25:
flaxman
flaxman
03 Aug 2020, 17:12 #
@Asselyaai: if you believe the diagram on the floor, then Agnes gave birth to Tronte from the Source ;-)
tipaigrok
tipaigrok
28 Jan 2025, 02:16 #
@flaxman: It doesn't seem to have been written about yet.: The source is Martha's son, so it turns out that Martha is both Agnes' mother-in-law and her great-granddaughter, just as we love))
chipa812
chipa812
29 Jun 2020, 17:41 #
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sdoxni_pliz
sdoxni_pliz
29 Jun 2020, 19:47 #
It probably depends on what kind of world she's in at the moment.
EmilD
EmilD
29 Jun 2020, 20:25 #
@chipa812: in order to show what kind of world she is in, if on the left, then in her own world, on the right in Jonas' world.
mardilaat
mardilaat
29 Jun 2020, 20:28 #
It's the same with the scar from the cleft lip of the trinity, depending on which world they are in, the side changes.
ashviki
ashviki
05 Jul 2020, 16:13 #
Au Jonas- if there is a birthmark, then there is none...
vk243837
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06 Jul 2020, 04:48 #
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abyssinian
abyssinian
16 Sep 2020, 04:46 #
And Bartosz has a mole on his eyebrow, then on the left, then on the right, depending on the world.
I never cease to be surprised by the attention to detail in this series, where the devil breaks his leg in important things and it's easy to get confused.
Earth_02
Earth_02
08 Oct 2020, 13:44 #
@abyssinian: as I understand it, everything was shot as usual, and the montagers were already mirroring the picture to fit the desired world, well, it's convenient, and it's noticeable from the actors' faces that the asymmetry of faces in the mirror world is now in the other direction.
mardilaat
mardilaat
29 Jun 2020, 20:41 #
So Hannah got hers..

And it's sad to realize that Bartosz was killed by his own son.
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
29 Jun 2020, 22:45 #
Everyone here is killing their parents).
Hellfrozenrain
Hellfrozenrain
PRO
01 Jul 2020, 00:48 #
@SantaJul: And his children, too, the same Katarina...
myatezhka
myatezhka
PRO
28 Nov 2023, 07:29 #
@mardilaat: No matter how much of a bitch Hannah was, my stomach clenched and tears flowed from the realization that it was her son, Jonas, who had turned into such a monster, leaving his sister without a mother..
hellakerroughs
hellakerroughs
30 Jun 2020, 03:53 #
Hannah: dying at the hands of her own son
me: it's what she deserves
renatamarten
renatamarten
19 Sep 2020, 00:59 #
@hellakerroughs: But why the fuck was she supposed to be killed, it's still not clear!
Eliz1611
Eliz1611
21 Sep 2020, 15:16 #
@renatamarten: maybe to quietly steal her daughter and not have her arise?
Earth_02
Earth_02
08 Oct 2020, 13:46 #
@Eliz1611: Well, I would have forcibly sent both of them to the future, delov, or anywhere else, why kill them? Well, we realized that she's still a bitch, but her manipulations still don't reach the deadly sins of some kind, so that her own son kills with his bare hands.
FairyDream
FairyDream
28 Dec 2020, 01:18 #
@Earth_02: Well, she dumped this son for 40 years. She grabbed her suitcase and rushed to take revenge on her ex-lover, but how would her son be, and even without a car, he was stuck on the side. So she doesn't have much of a motherhood.
MaruMiller
MaruMiller
30 Jun 2020, 04:46 #
It was already beginning to seem like you could watch this spiral spiral and the puzzle get more complicated forever... And here I thought that Nolan had made a lot of sense in "Inception" - ha! That was not the case.

But it's still strange how they find the strength to kill those they love.
LaFleur
LaFleur
01 Jul 2020, 23:07 #
@MaruMiller: Strength is okay. motivation!? I don't understand.. For the most part, they do this out of motivation, "I was told that it was necessary," or "I realized that it was necessary.".. Shta, why did Jonas kill Hannah? so he lived in the 19th century, got old, and then he was like this.. Hmm, why not kill your mother? She showed up there because Grandma brought her, and Adam encouraged Grandma.. But why?
glam
glam
04 Jul 2020, 03:29 #
@LaFleur: She wouldn't give up her daughter.
seriesomniac
seriesomniac
05 Jul 2020, 07:26 #
@LaFleur: The most crazy moments are when someone kills someone or lets someone die out of the motivation of "this is the only way to save you."
Darula
Darula
PRO
09 Jul 2020, 02:19 #
@LaFleur: Adam explained to his mother that she was out of place, and then he killed her. He had already begun to have megalomania and madness.
Eva gave Jonas's mother's address, didn't he tell her to tell it himself? I think she had her own motives.
SergeyKaravay
SergeyKaravay
26 Feb 2025, 21:49 #
@MaruMiller: He was clever in his Argument. In the beginning, everything was clear.
Well, in the dark it's tin
Ali_kolli
Ali_kolli
30 Jun 2020, 19:39 #
Damn, what I can't understand is that everyone is so afraid that we will change everything, but they do exactly the same thing that their older versions did. Damn pachima?! Like, Martha, oh, I won't be like you, and then she cuts her hair to look like an older one. Well, obviously, by repeating the same actions, they won't break the cycle.
or does no one want to break it anymore? it seems clear who's doing what, but what the fuck? Just because someone came and said it was necessary? Why do they believe everything like fools? Like Elizabeth stole a child from herself
. Why did Jonas look like that? How could they make this car if they were stuck in the 1880s? why did Claudia just get older because of traveling, and Jonas became creepy?
What are all these machines doing? why is someone moving through portable shit, while someone is waiting 33 years? Why would children be burned?
-_______________________- aaaaa pamagiti
evelina_lut
evelina_lut
30 Jun 2020, 20:04 #
Trying to break the cycle is difficult, as it seems to me. The hero from the future said to make something for himself from the past, logically, in order to break the cycle, you need not to do what the future version said. But at the same time, suddenly the fact that this hero didn't do it led to this very cycle again. The brain is just 🤯
I think Jonas tried to kill himself, that's why he got these burns.
Sprite2010
Sprite2010
01 Jul 2020, 02:40 #
It seems to me that Jonas' burns are from the electric arc of his car. It was no accident that we were shown how the discharge hits him in the shoulder and leaves a burn.
Ali_kolli
Ali_kolli
01 Jul 2020, 19:26 #
@Sprite2010: Well, that was one time, and Adam's whole body is actually disfigured. or did he run like a fool every time to grab this device (although it did not give any result)?.. I don't even know, it's kind of weird)
LaFleur
LaFleur
01 Jul 2020, 23:15 #
@evelina_lut: let's say you can understand that there are old characters who want to change something or not to change and persuade their younger version to do something. But here's the young version, why do they all, ALL, do what they're told? There's not a single character who would say, "No, wait, dude, you're doing great, but I'll do what I want, or let's change my mind." There was a diary and a couple of letters that proved something. I imagine myself in their place, and I don't understand what kind of words my future version should tell me to go kill my parents or steal my child from myself. Little motivation, little logic
flart
flart
02 Jul 2020, 16:51 #
@LaFleur: Your child was already stolen from you twelve years ago, and you became who you are because it happened. The only news here is, "Oh, so I picked her up myself. It's good that she's with me too."

Jonas killed his mother only because he needed to send his sister to where she needed to be, and his mother would probably create problems. That is, he no longer cared who killed whom, the main thing was to break the cycle so that there would be no suffering.

The only thing that is unclear is why Jonas decided that killing his son would end everything and that he was the "source"? And it's even more unclear why if you put Martha in an egg, then she and her son will die, and not get to the moment in time in which they were supposed to be?
The average Jonas made this egg himself, and with his help he got to 1888, no?
LaFleur
LaFleur
05 Jul 2020, 19:33 #
"A mother would probably create problems." Seriously, that's a weak argument for me to kill a mother. And if she hadn't created it? People tend to drag it out to the last for the sake of their loved ones, even when they see for sure that their mother is creating problems, there is still hope in their hearts, "noooo, maybe we'll get lucky." Especially if we're not talking about the Terminator, but Jonas. Who shows a lot of empathy throughout the series.
anni713
anni713
13 Sep 2020, 21:36 #
In my opinion, from the look in his eyes (when his mother came with Silya) and how he took his hand away from his face, it was already clear that he did not feel anything for his mother
Eliz1611
Eliz1611
21 Sep 2020, 15:19 #
@LaFleur: only Claudia turns out to be the only one who did not believe the other version and decided to go her own way.
Eliz1611
Eliz1611
21 Sep 2020, 15:21 #
@LaFleur: Apparently, after getting involved in Freddy Krueger, there was nothing left of empathy, as well as hair
Earth_02
Earth_02
08 Oct 2020, 13:48 #
@anni713: especially when he cried after the phrase to prepare a room for them, the tears were purely for fun.
Pollux
Pollux
19 Dec 2020, 03:33 #
@LaFleur: Maybe he knows from the previous cycle that if he doesn't kill her, she'll do something.
LaFleur
LaFleur
01 Jul 2020, 23:08 #
@Ali_kolli: Yeah, I don't understand their motivation either. I wrote just above, I didn't finish reading this comment)
Simon__di
Simon__di
04 Jul 2020, 17:32 #
@Ali_kolli: it seems to me that Elizabeth abducted her own daughter again, as she was told that Charlotte would live in a normal world (but the older ones would already take over the time of the post/apocalypse). Either she stays with her parents, but her life will be completely spent in a post-apocalyptic world. I understand, the motivation is bullshit, from the series "I do good, I cause joy."
lila_alina_june
lila_alina_june
12 Jul 2020, 06:37 #
@Simon__di: After all, if Charlotte hadn't been abducted, she wouldn't have ended up in the past and wouldn't have given birth to Elizabeth herself. And then Elizabeth and Charlotte. Very strong motivation.
Ali_kolli
Ali_kolli
21 Sep 2020, 19:13 #
@lila_alina_june: this is understandable, of course. What bothers me is that no one says anything to anyone. Well, it's kind of corny to even plant a note saying that everything will be fine with Charlotte, we gave her to a safe place (conditionally). but here everyone is silent, ratting out information and suffering endlessly (which is logical, because this is an inextricable cycle), but this is no less annoying and sad (
Ustrahan
Ustrahan
24 Apr 2024, 17:58 #
@Simon__di: and why are both Elisabets mute in this episode? One must speak
Simon__di
Simon__di
25 Apr 2024, 17:12 #
@Ustrahan: Why should one of them speak?
Ustrahan
Ustrahan
25 Apr 2024, 17:36 #
@Simon__di: if I'm not confusing anything, in the first world she is mute, and in the second she talks, and Francesca is mute
Simon__di
Simon__di
02 May 2024, 22:01 #
@Ustrahan: I completely forgot that Francesca is mute in the parallel world. To be honest, I don't remember why both Elizabeth's are mute here. I watched the series a long time ago...
Monogatari
Monogatari
07 Dec 2024, 00:24 #
@Ustrahan: In this episode, both Elizabeth are from the first world - but from different timelines.
Darula
Darula
PRO
09 Jul 2020, 03:00 #
@Ali_kolli: it is especially unclear why it was necessary to throw Silver back and forth, why was it needed in 2052? Just to stun Jonas with the butt?
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
10 Jul 2020, 02:01 #
Because everything should be in its place, and then she would travel back in time and hook up with Bartosz, and accordingly give birth to Noah and Agnes. And she was obviously not thrown in 2052, because she is already an adult there.
captain_wood
captain_wood
15 Jul 2020, 23:59 #
You've voiced all my thoughts!! it seems that I've been watching the series for several days in a row, since the first season, and it's still not clear why it was necessary to mutilate and kill children, and how Helge did not die, and what kind of logic the average versions of the characters use (there's nothing much to ask from the young, they don't understand anything yet, but here you are, hero, I've seen my Fantomas face a hundred times and you think you can change something, although shortly before that I refused to let Jonas out of the camera because "it's nothing to remember"??)... I hope everything will be clear in the last episode)) because when they write here, "everything has been sorted out in this series," I have a feeling that the shelves are invisible, there are no shelves.
Slavalucky1988
Slavalucky1988
16 Jun 2023, 07:20 #
@Ali_kolli: The authors hint at the complete determinism of the universe, and the whole series is about this, apparently, that nothing can be changed, because it has already happened countless times. However, within the framework of the concept of the events of the series, it looks insanely stupid) well, a gun can't always misfire, it's idiotic) the very fact that you saw yourself older will lead to the fact that you won't become like that (some little thing will definitely change), so this is impossible in principle, and the only thing that is theoretically possible with From a scientific point of view, going into the past to create new branches of reality, the very fact of breaking into the past of something that was not there before creates a branch of reality that will forever be separate.
exarians-y
exarians-y
01 Jul 2020, 05:38 #
I didn't keep track of which particular episode directly showed that Hannah is Silya's mother, so I'll write here my delight about the work of the casting team and makeup artists. When Silja first appeared in the story (2053, sometime in the second season), and time travel was just getting hotter, I already had a mess in my head and thought that this was Hannah of school age -and in the end, Hannah turned out to be her mother. 😶😶😶
Yokoya
Yokoya
01 Jul 2020, 06:00 #
The thought experiment of "Jonas Schrodinger"

1) Marta saves Jonas and sends him to the mirror world. In the mirror world, Jonas finds a younger version of Marta. They have a son. Jonas is being killed. Trying to protect her son, Marta tries her best to keep the "knot". Eve is born.

2) Jonas escapes to the basement and builds a time machine for 33 years. After unsuccessfully trying to save "his" Marta, Jonas moves to 1888 and comes to the conclusion that the only way to break the knot is to destroy both worlds. Adam is born.
Simon__di
Simon__di
04 Jul 2020, 17:34 #
@Yokoya: brilliantly laid out, thank you.................
anni713
anni713
13 Sep 2020, 21:42 #
Only in the second point there is still a mirror Marta, who was distracted by Bartosz (and she should be pregnant with Jonas at that moment), but how will she be pregnant with Jonas if she did not move Jonas........................
Or is this the very moment from Schrodinger's cat: "the properties of the living and the dead exist simultaneously"🤨
LuckyBastard
LuckyBastard
22 Sep 2020, 07:48 #
@anni713: At the moment when Bartosz calls out to Martha, there is a split and now there are 2 pregnant Martha. But the one who went to save Jonas will eventually come to Adam, who will kill her. As a result, there will be only one pregnant Marta who will give birth to the Source.
Necromantica
Necromantica
01 Jul 2020, 08:01 #
There's only one episode left, and we still don't know why the one-eyed/armless policeman became like this((
DeadParrot11
DeadParrot11
27 Jul 2020, 06:07 #
Most likely, he is needed, like those bizarre characters in Twin Peaks))
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
28 Jul 2020, 00:06 #
Throughout the series, I couldn't help but think that this eye of his was just a reference to Nadine from Twin Peaks)
LDU_serials
LDU_serials
10 Sep 2020, 01:42 #
@Necromantica: There's only one episode left, and we still don't know how Adam/Jonas got burned.
nemaier
nemaier
23 Mar 2021, 04:31 #
@LDU_serials: Something like that, I suppose. I also thought, yes, it's time to take off the helmet
g1320950
g1320950
24 Aug 2024, 04:36 #
@nemaier: ahah) Still good, maybe preserved with all these creepy experiments
Elena_Criss
Elena_Criss
01 Jul 2020, 11:59 #
I was very worried that they wouldn't show us the 33 years when Jonas grew up and what he did and where, and the 33 years when he became Adam. Because it was really interesting, and in the end they told us everything, thanks to the scriptwriters. 🙏🏻
Most of all, after this episode, I felt sorry for Bartosz, his whole life was just for the Nielsen family to be born. And considering his fate (his own son killed him) and his children (his daughter killed her son, Adam used them), it's generally sad (((The Tidemanns get the most in this series.
LaFleur
LaFleur
01 Jul 2020, 23:20 #
@elena_criss: and I didn't understand why Jonas became Adam, why he wanted to kill his mom and his beloved Marta. They showed only a few scenes, and with the usual "good" Jonas, we have 98% of the time. I want to see these arguments of his, the rehashes that led him to such a drastic change
Beija-luna
Beija-luna
01 Jul 2020, 22:59 #
Did you miss it or didn't understand why Jonas-Adam is in such burns? Bartosz says that traveling has affected him, but that doesn't make it very clear...
Gibbons
Gibbons
05 Jul 2020, 23:27 #
@Beija-luna: From 1888 to 1921, Jonas unsuccessfully tried to build a time machine, and while he was building it, he was struck by electricity.
And then the adult Bartosz and his son Noah dug the tunnel to make it possible to move.
tamponpaw
tamponpaw
02 Jul 2020, 00:19 #
I've been thinking about this picture all series
lil_sebastian
lil_sebastian
10 Jul 2020, 01:53 #
@berrynice: I just screamed out loud from your comment, thank you!!
mani_de_gogin
mani_de_gogin
23 Jul 2020, 01:52 #
@berrynice: Haha why is it so funny ') out loud just
Kutensky
Kutensky
02 Jul 2020, 06:10 #
A good graph of the family tree.
It clearly shows that Adam and Eve gave birth to almost all the characters in the series, and in particular themselves. Jonas is Ulrich's great-great-grandfather. And Ulrich is his grandfather. And Hannah is her own great-great-grandmother.
https://dtf.ru/cinema/162591-rodstvennye-svyazi-v-seriale-tma
berbetenok
berbetenok
10 Aug 2020, 05:44 #
@Kutensky: Oh, I just used it, and it's official. https://dark.netflix.io/en/family-tree
crystalchoke
crystalchoke
02 Jul 2020, 19:38 #
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SeaL71
SeaL71
03 Jul 2020, 00:20 #
It's just how it all looped in the end. 😱
ilpassetto
ilpassetto
PRO
03 Jul 2020, 02:19 #
What was missing during the previous 24 episodes was this clear full-screen time recalculation with a stop on a specific year, which will be discussed in the following minutes. I had to either figure it out in my head, or mark the jumps of the characters in time on the pieces of paper in order to somehow avoid confusion / try to restore the chronology of events. In the 25th episode, the creators made life a little easier for viewers by introducing hints. Apparently, they decided that there was still a high risk of total boiling of the audience's brains from an overabundance of emotions and information, so they took pity: they began to guide and connect events over the years, and, in fact, with cheerful and confident steps to bring everything and everyone to the final. A perfectly done job. 👏
kateyama
kateyama
03 Jul 2020, 17:14 #
This is normal, we ran through the history of the inhabitants of Vinden from 1890 to 2054!
And the scene where everything closes in gives me goosebumps...
of course, it's disappointing for me that so many people are contributing to what's about to happen. I prefer it when a random combination of circumstances occurs, without these directions of each other in different timelines.
I wonder why it was necessary to send Silja to 2052 and how Adam wanted to kill Martha using a time machine??
Simon__di
Simon__di
04 Jul 2020, 17:42 #
While I'm watching, I constantly remember the series Razraby. There, the Persians also believed that fate ruled everyone. And in this regard, it seems to me, a logical question arises - why did none of the Persians who knew about time travel ever think / as "oh, I'll give it all up! one bullshit with your time passes! I want to live in peace!". Well, it's stupid in a simple way, so that someone is terribly stuck with all this mess, spat on everything and dumped away. Just in the Development one Persian asked such a question and it was very logical and understandable.
That's right, the detective from season 2 once casually said: "no one has ever left Winden."

At the moment when they show that Jonas the average leaves things in our Jonas' room (lamp, map, etc.), I wanted to yell: "Leave him alone! He's already got it!".
id145855225
id145855225
07 Mar 2021, 13:25 #
Apparently, Bartosz got fucked up and decided to live a normal life, so the Nielsen family went)))
Maxim-Ka
Maxim-Ka
04 Jul 2020, 22:51 #
The last episode remains.... I'm going to pour it....
Hannah_Abbot
Hannah_Abbot
PRO
05 Jul 2020, 01:00 #
Damn, you can't look at Noah without crying after this episode, but my head is boiling.
v86
v86
05 Jul 2020, 04:05 #
@Hannah_Abbot: Noah killed his father, tested a time machine on children, manipulated people, so he just earned that kind of karma. Compare his fate with the same Bartosz, he certainly did not deserve such a fate.
veer
veer
05 Jul 2020, 08:21 #
The brain is shocked by such turns, the saucepan is boiling!)
vk243837
vk243837
05 Jul 2020, 14:16 #
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tatrati
tatrati
08 Jul 2020, 00:36 #
@vk243837: Did you have to watch 23 episodes to realize this for yourself? You're a masochist...
Bossayk
Bossayk
08 Jul 2020, 01:02 #
If you watch carefully and turn on your brain, the series is great! If you look with one eye and do not delve into it, then yes..
Gibbons
Gibbons
05 Jul 2020, 23:11 #
Elizabeth and Charlotte kidnapped Charlotte from Elizabeth 😱
KuralaiYerkin
KuralaiYerkin
06 Aug 2020, 14:11 #
Clara stole Carl's corals....
Alinielis
Alinielis
07 Jul 2020, 17:41 #
I'm confused (or rather, I forgot), who killed Noah?
ilpassetto
ilpassetto
PRO
07 Jul 2020, 20:54 #
@Alinielis: His sister is Agnes.
tatrati
tatrati
08 Jul 2020, 00:40 #
How does it work, why are they all so trusting? One minute Bartosz (another dimension) didn't understand what was going on and where Marta was moving with the adults Magnus and Franziska, and the next minute he himself in another dimension convinces Marta not to do anything and takes her to Eva...🙃
Earth_02
Earth_02
08 Oct 2020, 14:06 #
@ArsenTatraev: you can see from him that he's been hanging out for a while, his clothes are different, he's all chewed up, obviously he's got motivation during his absence :D
Irina26
Irina26
08 Jul 2020, 01:17 #
There is only hopelessness and sadness in this series, especially in the final cut. Everyone just does what they suffer, and so on in an endless circle. I can't even imagine what an unambiguous way out of this situation might be.
I wonder what the creators of the series will do in the end: will they sort everything out or will there be an ambiguous ending? And from the last few minutes, I just felt a wild nostalgia for the first season, how long ago it came out.
ramill
ramill
09 Jul 2020, 00:34 #
God, that's brilliant. I have goosebumps from the very beginning of the episode to the end.
With a sinking heart, I turn on the finale.
Darula
Darula
PRO
09 Jul 2020, 02:42 #
Do you remember at the end of season 1, when Jonas found himself in 2053, there was equipment there, even something flew? Where did it come from?! In 2040, none of this is 0_o.
Do you also remember that Jonas had a tattoo as an adult? Who was stuffing them in 2040? ))
kingforthesirens
kingforthesirens
09 Jul 2020, 23:16 #
I'm getting really tired of this circular incest. Everyone is descended from each other and everyone spoils each other's lives.
daria_schyokina
daria_schyokina
10 Jul 2020, 01:28 #
I don't know if this has been written about before, but Tannhaus looks like Ed Sheeran...
curly
curly
10 Jul 2020, 21:13 #
I have a question, maybe I was inattentive. Is the Schrodinger lecturer a Tanhouse in middle age?
Hellfrozenrain
Hellfrozenrain
PRO
11 Jul 2020, 02:50 #
@curly: Yes, that's him, just a patchy one.
ValyaTsunami
ValyaTsunami
11 Jul 2020, 01:55 #
I'm off topic here, but I was wondering why Agnes goes by the surname Nielsen. If her parents are Tiedemann and Konwald
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
12 Jul 2020, 01:15 #
I also asked this question, and they told me that she was married to Martha's son, and he was Nielsen.
ValyaTsunami
ValyaTsunami
12 Jul 2020, 13:49 #
Oh, that's right, the Source))
g1401244
g1401244
14 Feb 17:54 #
@EyeOfTheRaven: But he said they didn't give him a name. How did he get married without a name? Did you name a fake one?
qaverel
qaverel
14 Jul 2020, 02:41 #
I don't understand why no one writes about it, and it's not in the wiki table.:
Tannhaus is probably the son of Magnus and Franziska.
He had a picture on his wall. At first I didn't understand who it was, but then I recognized Magnus by his hair.

Because Tannhaus is the only one who doesn't understand where he came from, but everything is logical - he is their son.
qaverel
qaverel
14 Jul 2020, 11:56 #
@lerkazheleva: No, I missed the moment. He's not their son, I'm sorry.
breath_und
breath_und
14 Jul 2020, 23:34 #
Which version of Martha was killed by Adam/Jonas?
LuckyBastard
LuckyBastard
17 Jul 2020, 22:30 #
@breath_und: Marta moved into Jonas' world to save him. Just in front of his house, there was a turning point-a split reality in which there were 2 Martha-2 Jonas, and Bartosz called out to one of them and sent her to Eve, but the second, who eventually saved Jonas, after a while got to Adam and he killed her.
breath_und
breath_und
22 Jul 2020, 13:57 #
@LuckyBastard: Thanks :)
kapuhe4ka
kapuhe4ka
15 Jul 2020, 01:59 #
it hurts 💔
qweralx
qweralx
15 Jul 2020, 16:58 #
Everything pisses me off in season three. there is no development, they just add details and confuse the audience even more. Adam and Eve are always deceiving everyone, doing some kind of shit. Everyone talks about how to end or break the circle, but they don't really do anything about it. I'm already tired of watching, that's real.
everyone writes in the comments, like, "what a plot," "how cool," "I take my hat off," and so on, but I sincerely don't understand how you all aren't tired of this tossing back and forth
, yes, the characters are worked out and this web between the characters is really just something, admires, but the plot has become such shit, God, I wish they could end this show for this season.
pon4ic
pon4ic
15 Jul 2020, 23:47 #
@AlinaOginskaya: as far as I understand, the whole idea was originally designed for three seasons. that is, everything that happens is part of the original plan of the creators of the series, and not made up on the fly. so yes, this season is the last, as planned from the very beginning.
qweralx
qweralx
20 Jul 2020, 16:40 #
I didn't know that the third season was the last when I wrote the previous comment, but nevertheless, this does not negate the fact that the third season is very different from the first two and I would not say that it is good.
in fact, all the episodes of the last season are some kind of nonsense, but in the last episode the whole denouement takes place in a couple of minutes.
Zhanara_got
Zhanara_got
16 Jul 2020, 01:05 #
I totally agree
ssectumssempra
ssectumssempra
16 Jul 2020, 14:17 #
Explain how Charlotte, who was born to mute Elizabeth in 2040, turned out to be an adult in 2019 (season 1)?
ValyaTsunami
ValyaTsunami
17 Jul 2020, 01:52 #
She was abducted, and apparently moved to hide from Noah, as I understand it.
ssectumssempra
ssectumssempra
16 Jul 2020, 14:23 #
To be honest, biologically speaking, all of this big Adams family should have deviations from incest.
veryzlaya
veryzlaya
16 Jul 2020, 20:13 #
But what about the violation of the space-time cantinum that Dr. Emet Brown warned us about?
free_Elfo
free_Elfo
18 Jul 2020, 01:54 #
There is no other world besides ours!
Liza
Liza
19 Jul 2020, 01:11 #
Silja turns out to be Claudia's sister (on her father's side), and Bartosz is her great-nephew.

Noah and Agnes are Jonasu's nephew and niece 🤯

Adam forced Noah to manipulate his father (the young Bartosz in 2019) and kill him in 1921, that's how friendship works.
pozallina
pozallina
20 Jul 2020, 14:36 #
So that's what we got

June 27, 2020. Martha takes Jonas, who enters the mirror world, generates the source, and dies.

June 27, 2020. Martha is picked up by Bartosz. Jonas runs to the basement, then spends 33 years trying to set up a portal with Claudia at the nuclear power plant. Under her guidance, he travels to 2019 and helps young Jonas. Then he tries to break the knot, but eventually closes the portal, gets stuck in 2019 and on June 27, 2020, together with Magnus, Franziska and Bartosz, he goes to 1888. There he tries to get his Martha back and comes to the conclusion that the only way out is the apocalypse. Adam is born.
pozallina
pozallina
20 Jul 2020, 14:37 #
So that's what Jonas and I are getting at.

June 27, 2020. Martha takes Jonas, who enters the mirror world, generates the source, and dies.

June 27, 2020. Martha is picked up by Bartosz. Jonas runs to the basement, then spends 33 years trying to set up a portal with Claudia at the nuclear power plant. Under her guidance, he travels to 2019 and helps young Jonas. Then he tries to break the knot, but eventually closes the portal, gets stuck in 2019 and on June 27, 2020, together with Magnus, Franziska and Bartosz, he goes to 1888. There he tries to get his Martha back and comes to the conclusion that the only way out is the apocalypse. Adam is born.
Catherine24
Catherine24
20 Jul 2020, 19:08 #
THIS SERIES WAS CREATED BY GENIUSES
lasforry
lasforry
25 Jul 2020, 16:52 #
And why does Hanno have the surname Tauber?
Stillin_
Stillin_
26 Jul 2020, 00:38 #
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Stillin_
Stillin_
26 Jul 2020, 00:40 #
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flaxman
flaxman
03 Aug 2020, 17:31 #
@Stillin_: people don't seem to be able to read, and now they're so genuinely surprised at everything))
Stillin_
Stillin_
26 Jul 2020, 00:58 #
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pollyanna1202
pollyanna1202
28 Jul 2020, 11:15 #
Damn, at what point did Hannah end up in 1911?
I either missed that moment or forgot...
remind me, if it's not difficult.
pollyanna1202
pollyanna1202
28 Jul 2020, 11:21 #
Then I looked and remembered
Alnk24
Alnk24
29 Jul 2020, 17:46 #
Katarina died at the hands of her mother, Bartosz by her son, Hanna also by her son🤯My brain stopped perceiving anything.
flaxman
flaxman
03 Aug 2020, 17:30 #
@Alnk24: Regina was also strangled by her own father with a pillow. They have a wonderful father-child relationship there.
serialomaniac
serialomaniac
31 Jul 2020, 20:05 #
The beginning of the series was reminiscent of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy)
ALXSPACE
ALXSPACE
02 Aug 2020, 19:07 #
I missed something, but how did Jonos end up with such a creaky appearance? Or will they explain it in episode 8?
negr
negr
03 Aug 2020, 17:06 #
@ALSPACE: as a result of timestreams during the timeskip in ~10+ years-
flaxman
flaxman
03 Aug 2020, 17:23 #
In short, the brain is torn more and more with each episode. There are a lot of strange and illogical actions that are explained simply by the fact that it has already happened before and we need to do everything the same so that it all happens again, so we will send people from the future to different moments of the past so that they direct the plot in the right direction there. Well, so-so idea, to be honest. What the hell did Charlotte start to help Adam and stumbled into the past to steal herself from her parents? Well, nonsense!

In short, there are a number of questions left before the last series, let's see how many of them she will answer. Actually here they are:

1. Why did everything have to happen again one more time and everything will end? What was Adam counting on?
2. Why did Agnes kill Noah?
3. Why and what kind of Jonas moved Mikel to the past?
4. Why did Noah need experiments with children and why did he need Helge?
5. What kind of healthy shit did Tannhaus build in his basement? He also had a portable time machine. And what was that then?
6. What was Eva trying to achieve by sending three psychos on assignments? Why did they do all this mess?
7. Who and how came up with balls in an alternative world to move between worlds?

So far, everything seems to be fine.
flaxman
flaxman
04 Aug 2020, 13:49 #
@flaxman: It's a fucking brilliant series, but I still haven't gotten any answers to all my questions. Well, only 1 out of 7 was answered. I'm disappointed.
Earth_02
Earth_02
08 Oct 2020, 14:21 #
@flaxman: 2. Adam commanded
3. It doesn't really matter which one, I've heard enough of Claudia. He saw himself in the future, and was convinced that this was how it should be.
4. An attempt to create a time machine, a couple of children were shot at, but Helga and Jonas (he got there for the first time in 2053) already succeeded
5. He built the primary time machine, in fact, a device that slowed down the world for a fraction of a second, creating all these intricate loops.
6. They did all this to be born, well! They forced the construction of the station, called on Clausen to open the barrels, they started the primary failure in the station, they. In fact, they created all those moments to be created themselves. And Eve, as a mother, preserved both herself and her son, so that it would turn and live forever like this.
LiliyaLeto
LiliyaLeto
PRO
23 Nov 2020, 01:08 #
3. Mikkel was transported to the past by Tol Jonas, who moved from 1921 to 2019 to stop his father from committing suicide. Then he left with Claudia. So he moved Mikkel to 1986, and then came for the young Claudia.
LiliyaLeto
LiliyaLeto
PRO
23 Nov 2020, 01:11 #
2. Noah had already done everything Adam needed him to do. And Adam himself told him that this was the end of his life line. And they killed him because he would have interfered with Adam. He no longer believed him, did not support him, plus realized that Adam had lied to him about Charlotte.
LiliyaLeto
LiliyaLeto
PRO
23 Nov 2020, 01:12 #
1. Adam hoped that by killing Martha, who was pregnant with the Source, he would erase them all from this time loop.
LiliyaLeto
LiliyaLeto
PRO
23 Nov 2020, 01:14 #
4. They tested the time machine. Children were used for this purpose.
LiliyaLeto
LiliyaLeto
PRO
23 Nov 2020, 01:15 #
6. This trio caused exactly that accident at the station, which is the beginning of all events and movements.
LiliyaLeto
LiliyaLeto
PRO
23 Nov 2020, 01:16 #
7. I think it was the watchmaker's idea. After all, he created a travel case in Adam's world.
flaxman
flaxman
06 Aug 2020, 17:08 #
By the way, the moment when Eva leaves a scar on Martha's face with a knife should be added to the TOP of stupid actions with idiotic motivation. Before that, I was infuriated by the similar stuff when Adam shot Marta in Jonas' arms, like so that he would grow up exactly the way he became. And then the same thing happens again. There was no sign of injury with a knife, but the young one must grow up to be the same bitch as the old one, so I'll stab her with a knife. Well, it's really nonsense...
Pandme
Pandme
10 Aug 2020, 03:18 #
I can't watch the episode properly because I'm constantly rewinding the moments with Noah and reviewing them.

😍😍😍
Pandme
Pandme
10 Aug 2020, 04:31 #
I took a piece of paper with a pen and decided to see the consequences of Egon having sex with two women.

What do we have or what struck me the most:

Bartosz and Jonas are also relatives (let's start small)
Mikkel and Hannah are also relatives.......
And Tronte is both Agnes' son and great-grandfather!!!!!!

We are all one family, as they say.
LiliyaLeto
LiliyaLeto
PRO
23 Nov 2020, 01:05 #
How are Mikkel and Hannah related? Hannah is not part of the node, only her children.
Pandme
Pandme
10 Aug 2020, 04:34 #
And if a lot of things were sorted out, I still didn't catch the transition from Jonas to Adam. Why did he become like this, was able to kill his mother, and became such an Adam?

Perhaps this will be shown further (hopefully)

The moment when he realized that he was mistaken is, of course, a strong one. How much despair he felt

And the flashbacks were great, I even took a photo. Once again, I was surprised by this cyclicity, which repeats itself in any case, even if there is a second alt universe.

The darkness never ceases to amaze)
Pandme
Pandme
10 Aug 2020, 05:02 #
By the way, it's clear now that Silja had such a warm attitude towards Jonas back then, in the future, when he was hanged for the first time. She should have remembered from childhood that he was her brother. That's why I worried about him all the time and helped him.
Earth_02
Earth_02
08 Oct 2020, 14:23 #
@Pandme: but it's unclear why she was trying to find out from Elizabeth why she hadn't finally killed him, and who he was in principle. You never know the Jonas. She saw a scarred man, and in the future there was a scared teenager, not that it would be obvious that this is the same person :D
Heisen_berg
Heisen_berg
31 Aug 2020, 07:06 #
This series amuses me by spoiling itself.
And yes, special thanks to the creators for the 2-minute chronological video at the end, at least it cleared up a little, otherwise I had already forgotten a lot.
Jemm
Jemm
05 Sep 2020, 23:38 #
"Our song is good, start over" is the motto of this series.
As soon as I missed a week between watching this series and the previous ones, I was absolutely confused ((Well, I don't care anymore. I can't imagine how I would look, waiting for the trail to come out.season....
But still the third season is too much, for me personally. I watched the first two with great interest, but here everything is too much.
And I still didn't understand (or had already forgotten) why that room with blue wallpaper and torture was needed, why the boys had the upper part of their faces disfigured. What are these experiments, and what are they for?
anni713
anni713
13 Sep 2020, 21:49 #
The time machine was invented
anni713
anni713
13 Sep 2020, 21:24 #
Why did the quantum loop occur exactly at the time of Martha's death1? Why were there no splits of reality during other movements between the worlds?
anni713
anni713
13 Sep 2020, 23:20 #
I think I've only just realized the meaning of old Claudia's words, "If everything works out, then Regina will live."
That is, if you repeat everything as it was, then Regina will live, because if not, then all this huge Wind family will collapse and cease to exist, including Regina.
And the poor young version thought about her present/near future, that Regina would survive in this sense, and not in the global one.
She seemed to have told the truth, but she also seemed to have confused her head.
renatamarten
renatamarten
18 Sep 2020, 23:48 #
Why didn't Marta see that it was another Claudia with the eyes in reverse? Or maybe I just don't get it.
S1S13AF7
S1S13AF7
26 Dec 2021, 22:13 #
@renatamarten: As I understand it, they mirrored it purely for the audience, so that we wouldn't get even more confused than we already were.
fb1016705
fb1016705
20 Sep 2020, 01:23 #
In the previous episode, I already thought that I wouldn't understand anything further. Now I understand everything that happened in the first world, and the second and four Marches are a dark forest for me. I hope the last episode puts everything in order.
mortuusinvita
mortuusinvita
05 Oct 2020, 04:52 #
after every episode of the season, I sit and imagine myself being that old bearded "what the fuck" meme
un_deux_toi
un_deux_toi
07 Oct 2020, 04:16 #
Guess the riddle: "Back and forth, you and I don't understand"
The answer: the third season of Dark :D
S1S13AF7
S1S13AF7
26 Dec 2021, 22:14 #
@un_deux_toi: Isn't every season of Dark?
ThornyRose
ThornyRose
14 Oct 2020, 17:00 #
I have an overdose of the word CHEEEEE?!
This series blew my mind. In the beginning, I thought Adam was wildly similar to Bartosz. Even because of the scar, I thought that maybe Celia Eva. But no. They just pick up castes so much, and at some point Barton was just 1 in 1 Adam
Sweet_16
Sweet_16
28 Oct 2020, 23:31 #
When everything finally, FINALLY, came together at least in some kind of picture, even if not without gaps. So satisfying.
LiliyaLeto
LiliyaLeto
PRO
23 Nov 2020, 01:01 #
In the first season, I thought Noah was the most disgusting and evil character in the series, but now, knowing his whole story and what he went through, I sympathize and sympathize with him. It was about the same with Jaime Lannister from Game of Thrones. I love this kind of character development.

And it turns out Adam is not evil either. He really wanted to stop everything. And by killing a pregnant alt!By March, he hoped that everything would be over. And they will all cease to exist.
id_evergreen
id_evergreen
11 Dec 2020, 16:31 #
@LiliyaLeto: Hannah is related to Mikel because she is his great-great-grandmother.
id_evergreen
id_evergreen
11 Dec 2020, 16:31 #
Why don't the normal responses work? And they are written to the general feed, not to the response thread.
Zhe_Nya
Zhe_Nya
07 Jan 2021, 07:02 #
I declare this cut at the end to be the most "vividly showing how everything repeats itself again," it was just fucking emotional!
It makes me laugh now to remember how, together with little Jonas, I naively thought that he was such a smart guy, that he would see enough horrors and be able to resist Fate and Time, turn out to be smarter and would never become that burned-out evil uncle, but fuck it. Adam and Eve tricked me like their own little versions: "I also used to think that I wouldn't become like that."/like that, but then you'll understand how everything is connected," and look, that's what happened.
What made me blink the most was the realization that it was like...not the first and not the last circle is actually happening 0__0
And what we thought was the beginning in the first season turned out to be not just the beginning, but not the middle or the end or anything, considering that we were only in one of the realities, but we could have been in any other, and then the "truth" type would have been different for us. And I really wanted to push the younger Jonas, who went to conquer the nth circle of his loop, to ask his senior advisers, "And the guys...What kind of circle is this going on in general? How many times have we done this?" And this thought is both obvious, and mega-frightening, and striking nevertheless. You know, it's like we were shown the whole maze from above, whereas before that we were shown only from the inside, and what we saw just knocks us down and leads to incredible despair.
My poor impressionable brain. I have absolutely no idea what the finale might be preparing, but I'm looking forward to a heart attack, so I'll go to sleep first, just in case.
And the Darkness is a masterpiece.👏
okay_maria
okay_maria
12 May 2021, 23:30 #
The only thing I don't understand is how they were all born healthy if they're actually incest)))))) (okay, that's not the only thing I don't understand)
vk427313
vk427313
25 May 2021, 12:08 #
It's been a long time since it's been fucking unclear, but it's very interesting)
bouka
bouka
21 Aug 2021, 12:20 #
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Actiregularis
Actiregularis
28 Aug 2021, 14:51 #
Madam! One and a half more episodes of this nonsense....I can take it, I'll take a look!!!!
valenti_tommo
valenti_tommo
17 Oct 2021, 16:20 #
Okay, it looks like you're not blinking, but it already seems that the creators themselves are confused about what they were imagining. It's very interesting how they will untie everything in one episode.
salvus_angel
salvus_angel
13 Dec 2021, 11:41 #
Goosebumps
rottenjuly
rottenjuly
18 Jan 2022, 21:36 #
I gave it five stars in the first minutes of the episode. For a course in quantum physics.
MaXXX1k
MaXXX1k
12 Feb 2022, 00:46 #
Adam in his old age - Gorbachev
droz
droz
02 May 2022, 13:38 #
It's been a long time since I've watched a series with Google 😅
ProntoHERO
ProntoHERO
05 Jul 2022, 20:03 #
I came to fuck you, to fuck the future of me, to fuck the future of me, to fuck the future of you. In one word ,
Викос92
Викос92
19 Nov 2022, 05:54 #
Kapets. I came to see my son.
I'm used to the fact that everyone is related to each other, but I don't give a damn about Charlotte and her daughter (and vice versa).
zzz_203
zzz_203
PRO
23 Nov 2022, 16:03 #
My condition after watching this episode
Vasiys
Vasiys
25 Feb 2025, 20:57 #
@zzz_203: I've been in a similar state since the beginning of season 1, but the series is just fire, very cool and interesting.
zzz_203
zzz_203
PRO
25 Feb 2025, 21:01 #
@Enotik-007: I've never seen such series before... It's so confusing and interesting...🤗
Vasiys
Vasiys
25 Feb 2025, 21:05 #
@zzz_203: I watched one, there are also many different multi-episodes, but the series is specific. There are also many mysteries, secrets, mysticism, confusing answers, it is not clear who the villain is and how the series will end. If you haven't watched it, I advise you to watch the TV series "1899" it's a shame that there's only one season.
zzz_203
zzz_203
PRO
25 Feb 2025, 21:08 #
@Enotik-007: I watched it and learned about the Darkness from the comments... But 1899, because of its ragged finale and incompleteness, gives way to Darkness...
Vasiys
Vasiys
25 Feb 2025, 21:13 #
@zzz_203: By the way, I have a similar situation, I learned about the Darkness from the comments. I totally agree with that, if there had been one or two more seasons, I think the picture would have turned out to be cool too. If you suddenly find something interesting, I will wait for a comment with a recommendation for viewing.
cvetok
cvetok
PRO
05 Dec 2022, 10:16 #
It turns out that Celia Bartoshu is a grandmother) and they are both essentially Tidemannic. And Noah kills Bartosz, his father (it was in season 2).
pavlovdv22
pavlovdv22
23 Dec 2022, 22:23 #
Well, finally we have a whole episode of "after," where Adam doesn't know what's going to happen. However, we have Claudia, who is sure that Regina will live, and after a dialogue with Adam, she will have to go back in time and die at the hands of Noah. Let's see what she came up with.
izizi1997
izizi1997
09 Jan 2023, 15:12 #
It's like in the old days, when people married each other so as not to mix blood.
MARxLENin
MARxLENin
22 Jan 2023, 20:44 #
What did Adam expect after a piece of God devoured Martha? That he would disappear into thin air?
LbIdarka
LbIdarka
19 Feb 2023, 09:00 #
Claudia is the only one who thought about the child and his endless torment, and not about herself.
It's unclear if they can't kill themselves because of time, then why Adam can kill Martha. And why does Eve know several outcomes: like, if you go to Adam, will you die, or did she take it on?

Well, yes, I thought, what's wrong with young people who grow up in the past? I realize that I've just given birth to someone I know and know his future, this is my own child, and fuck it, we're staying here. I know I'm hurting myself like hell, because I'm stealing my own child, but fuck it, I'm obeying some unknown law and I'm stealing anyway and taking it to an unknown uncle to raise. Why don't these people even try to rebel, at least Jonas is yelling about it all the time
Arrivera
Arrivera
23 Jul 2023, 20:00 #
A very cool scene where a watchmaker builds a car in the basement and at the same time gradually ages.
I feel sorry for Silja and Bartosz. Silya doesn't have a life at all, but it's unclear what: there is no father, her mother was killed, then she grew up in the post-apocalypse and obeyed Adam, then she fell into the past, gave birth to two children and died. After the death of his wife, Bartosha will be killed by his own son in a world in which he did not want to live initially, for the sake of Adam's ideas of power/electability.
Martha has to carry and give birth to a baby, so I'm going to slash her with a knife. It's a great plan. In general, I would understand more if she, and not Adam, would end up hating this unexpected child that she is being forced to give birth to, this world in which she loses all her loved ones and a loved one (a plague on both your houses) and would advocate destroying everything. Her motivation would be clearer than Jonas, who, before going into the past, still vows to become Adam, builds a time machine in the past, and then they show him years later and he already looks like Fantomas and strangles his mother with his bare hands.

I still don't really understand why in both worlds everyone unconditionally believes all their own and not their own versions from the future and does everything they ask, including killing.
It's good that they showed that Jonas can't kill himself. In general, in previous seasons, I felt sorry for Mikkel, now you think he's lucky that at least his son didn't kill him, luxury.
Milagros
Milagros
11 Aug 2024, 14:45 #
I don't understand this, of course, Jonas, like a good guy, incites his father to commit suicide for the sake of a great goal unknown to him, kills his mother and Marta with his own hands, for which he suffers all his life.
Marta also loves Jonas so much that she kills him.
For some reason, their common child is some kind of creepy Source, who always walks in threes, like a robot, and also kills, then arranges the ends of the world.
g1320950
g1320950
24 Aug 2024, 05:22 #
@Milagros: Yes, the usual human logic does not apply to them.
Staro4ka
Staro4ka
PRO
23 Feb 2025, 15:18 #
When I wrote my last comment about the Swedish family, I didn't know yet that everything could be so confusing and looping. It is interconnected. Poor Bartosz, unwittingly, became the progenitor of the Nielsen family and the fifth-generation grandfather to Jonas, whom he disliked so much for being in this hole. He also married his great-grandfather's illegitimate daughter. And he gave birth to children, so that they eventually gave birth to Jonas. Well, kick-ass. And in the end, he fell by the hand of his own son, through the fault of the same Jonas. In general, the murder of children by parents and parents by children is very relevant for this series. I remembered the words of Pendalf, "Everyone steals and throws, cuts each other and hangs."… In general, a normal civilized life is going on."

I'm really worried that they won't tell us the story of the one-eyed (and one-armed) policeman.😰
Staro4ka
Staro4ka
PRO
23 Feb 2025, 15:41 #
@Staro4ka: I forgot to add Elizabeth, who is both her grandmother and granddaughter at the same time.
SergeyKaravay
SergeyKaravay
26 Feb 2025, 21:51 #
So why has Jonas changed so much? Why is this with Hannah?
Oh, it's complicated.
Gunel1992
Gunel1992
PRO
13 Mar 2025, 05:06 #
When the time sequence, i.e. the loop is accelerated, everything slowly falls into place.
I don't know how anyone got it, but I really feel sorry for Noah.… After all, it was all for the sake of his daughter.

I'm so shocked by everything that's happening. Tears, goosebumps… Everything is so mixed up, but it's already a little clearer. The last episode scares me, I'm afraid to watch... because God knows what's really in there.
radmilo4ka
radmilo4ka
08 Jun 2025, 13:24 #
Let 's have the last episode already
samaen
samaen
20 Dec 2025, 14:07 #
Jonas is like this at the end, oh, what's that, what do you mean
id187185633
id187185633
21 Jan 03:04 #
"None of them is free from guilt, none of them deserves a place in your paradise." Noah kills his father Bartysh, Noah is killed by his sister, Adam kills his mother, Eve and Adam constantly kill each other, their Source is generally some kind of killer 🧐
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