@Mart1z: Watched 4 episodes and yeah. Dreaming, as they say, is not harmful... Russian cinema in all its glory. The series doesn't seem to be for children (nudity), but from the point of view of the characters, everything is so primitive that boredom is mortal, from the first minutes - here are the good ones, here are the bad ones. At the same time, the screenwriter could not divide the characters into children and not into children, that children are not children - everyone behaves like an adult.
I would never have thought that in Russia they could shoot such a thing with children. I expected modest and even a little puritanical, after all, children are removed, staples and that's it! But no, quite a debauchery on debauchery :D
But the story seems to be interesting and the entourage is not bad, in places just like a time machine. But the bright rings of the Olympics surprised a little, were there such bright colored lamps in the USSR of the 80s?
@id70201890: this is just a candid scene, but I think about IP normally. Well, I probably won't list them all, otherwise they will immediately pounce on me in an attempt to prove or accuse, but for a series in which the average age of the actors is about ± 16 years old, and the younger ones are 13 at all, judging by the film search – yes, this is another debauchery, I'm even in I haven't seen any American ones :) And I don't mind at all, if anything, it's just amazing that they allowed such a thing to be removed.
It is unlikely that I, being a young girl, am a latent pedophile, but I also found this scene too much in terms of erotic overtones. The fact that the series is 18+ does not remove the question of why it was necessary for adult viewers to slowly and closely show the leg of a young girl. I personally felt uncomfortable, a completely unnecessary scene. And without that, perverts at every turn
@Zlaya_belka:I don't know what you were hinted at when the symbolism is on the face, and in this case on the hip...
It is obvious that the girl in the scene is sexualized and several artistic techniques are used for this, but what surprises me more is how people who draw attention to the fact that the children's kind of fun is removed completely, as not a child, are called pedophiles right and left.
@id70201890: of course, everyone interprets in their own way, nothing bothers you, the subtext is not seen.
It's obvious to me and the girls above that the work of the cameraman, director and screenwriter screams that a girl is a sexual object for a boy.
And the girls above only noticed that they were uncomfortable watching the attraction of children to each other in such a sexualized context.
I repeat, everyone sees and understands the media differently, but in my opinion it is strange to call people pedophiles when they say that sexualizing children is not OK. 🤷🏻♀️
Why not just respect an alternative opinion without insults and ridicule?
@id70201890:no, about pedophiles, this is a claim rather not to you specifically, but to the general reaction to criticism of this scene. I also didn't write that you specifically call people pedophiles.
I saw several comments that the scene was not quite pleasant to watch, but in response either "there was nothing there, you're imagining everything" or "if you see the subtext there, then you're a pedophile yourself"
And I am slightly surprised by both types of comments, because if a person interprets differently, it does not mean that he wants to see it that way. Sometimes there are objective reasons for this, as here, for example, the use of several different techniques at once in parallel to achieve one goal - to show the boy's attraction. Not a child's sympathy, but a physical attraction. Suggests that this was done intentionally.
@bibbiano: children at this age sexualize each other only on the road, now it's not shown in the movies? or, following the example of hypocritical Americans, to shoot thirty-year-old aunts in such scenes? kamon, pedophilia is the games of adult predators against immature children, and teenagers at this age have the right to want each other, and to taboo it in the film language means to bring Pelevin closer by all means
@limbo: I agree, but bibbiano says the same thing, in fact. States the fact: the sexual attraction of the boy to the girl was qualitatively transferred. And another fact states: there are commentators who did not like this scene, and other people attacked them because of this opinion. But we're not here to label people. It is better, indeed, to raise the topic of sexual attraction in adolescents and organize sexual education. Because attraction won't go away if it's taboo. It is necessary to educate youths on sexual relationships, which will help to reduce problems much more effectively than tabooing. From which the number of problems only increases
@id70201890: I understand you too. "Depraved scene" - sounds like a subjective assessment of the commentator. But, in fact, as bibbiano says, this artistic technique was used to convey the boy's attitude to all this, and not to evoke emotions in the viewer. People are different, they understand what is happening in different ways, and then they also express in their own way what they have understood. And their interlocutors, in turn, also perceive what has been said in their own way. It turns out a very complex chain of perceptions)
@Kentavr: the same young actor played in the Crystal, which is now ending, and the Food Hall is a kindergarten against his background in the plan "in Russia with children can shoot this" (they shoot there as well as they do not shoot abroad + the series is also partially autobiographical, which is especially striking). In many other components, too, lags far behind, of course, but still it is interesting to see, and it is interesting whether the actor will reach the level of Crystal in the game. By the way, in our time, we have less censorship in social terms than abroad. I'm not talking about the political one.
And I was surprised by the microphone on the ruler, it's a camp in some regional or district center, not even Moscow. Were the pioneer camps equipped with such equipment in 1980? I was in summer camps in the early 2000s, it seems to me that there were no microphones there
@Darula: Almost all small villages had houses of culture with not the most audio equipment, so you can believe, especially since this is the beginning of the 80s, not the most hungry years. Unpretentious microphones were inexpensive at those prices, they even came complete with some tape recorders.
the atmosphere is just wow! the first series went with a bang, I wonder what awaits next. I have high hopes for the series, I hope they will come true :)
The atmosphere has gone, the picture is beautiful.
And it is clear that our POV is male, and the rating is 18+, but still the camerawork in terms of shooting the girls confused. There are no questions about the bathing scene of an adult actress, but it was unpleasant to watch with a girl.
Again, it is clear that the camera follows the boy's gaze, but this does not make it less unpleasant.
Otherwise great. The teaser of the second series intrigued.
@JackiS: The thing is that the scene is deliberately constructed in a specific way for a specific purpose.
The narrative jumps between the scene by the lake, where the hero is attracted to a bathing girl and a boy who is perhaps attracted to a girl for the first time. For this, it is used both with an adult actress and with a small male gaze. The camera is a boy's look. She first slowly slides up the leg, then a close-up of the girl's neck goes.
If there was no obvious plot parallel and the scene was shot not so close-up, where the girl just lies without languid camera movements, then there would be no questions. ☺️
@bibbiano: let's give children the right to experience sexual feelings, stop making the topic of sex shameful and start actively educating the young population - there will be fewer problems for teenagers. If children are brought up in sexual shame, how magically should it then become normal? A person has sexuality from birth. Such things.
@dzlatogorskaya: this series is not positioned as a children's series. you probably haven't encountered anything like this. for example, the top search queries are "a 12-year-old girl in a swimsuit". I don't think that's what the kids are looking for. at first, everyone shouts "there's nothing, nothing vulgar in these angles, there's a cute children's scene," and then when you're a teenage girl riding in a transport and you catch the same sticky look from a guy who licked his lips and winked, is that OK too? and if he still groped? where is the edge? yes, a person has sexuality from birth, but it is not necessary to incite adult uncles against children.
@fb1023424: it's unlikely he licked and groped because of the movie. it's better to show in films that when an uncle does this on the bus, it's not your fault, but your uncle, and you have to shout loudly, and not silently endure - then there will be fewer cases. and the Soviet principle is that if you don't show it, then as if there is no, you have already given your fruits and they are shit. and "inciting adult uncles" is some kind of analogue of "I put on a mini skirt - I asked for it myself"?
@nilson: and "inciting adult uncles" is some kind of analogue of "I put on a mini skirt - I asked for it myself"? in this context, it's more like "it's okay to have a desire for a child, she's like that, she's shown like that, everyone sees her like that." I repeat, the series does not position itself as a children's. perhaps I shouldn't have read Nabokov at the time, but the fact remains that a lot of girls have been traumatized since childhood. there should be sex education in schools, but there should not be about erotic scenes with children in adult films. because it can be interpreted very well in different ways.
@fb1023424: do you mean an adult will have such a thing - "it's okay to have a desire for a child, she's like that, they show her like that, everyone sees her like that"? if, after watching the film, he formed such an impression for himself, then he is most likely thinking inadequately. in an ordinary man, children's bodies do not arouse any desires, which must be justified by cinema. just like a woman. and eroticism is in the eyes of the beholder. someone and everyone's knees are visible for a reason, the line is so thin that it is impossible to understand it. about sex education in schools - that's right, at least some. the percentage of teenage pregnancies is simply inadequate.
@nilson: I used to think like you.. children are children who in their right mind will think about this. then there were many examples and I learned that not always all people are normal and adequate. study the topic. I personally came across a man in the bushes three times as a teenager with, excuse me, a member at the ready. once it was just at a tram stop. and many have similar stories. perhaps because of these emotional traumas, I want children to be seen as children, and not objects of desire. even for the sake of art.
@fb1023424: so I'm telling you the same thing, only with a break from the movie. A man in the bushes will see a sexual object and sit in the bushes despite a movie/book/cartoon/poster. because people rarely get triggered by a movie, like, I watched it, and all of a sudden 10-year-olds started liking it, no.
you need to be able to take responsibility for sexual feelings, understand the consequences, which may not be the best, and in adolescence, not only is there no full legal responsibility, but there is no intellectual responsibility, although the latter applies not only to teenagers, but also to all people who fuck at any time under any circumstances.
It feels strange... it looks good, but... it's like they've shoved people from 2021 into the 80s entourage. I think it would be fun if the actors played and talked like people from the USSR. If you look at the interviews, various videos from that time show very clearly that people both spoke differently and behaved differently. In general, everything seems to be fine visually, but the game causes some kind of dissonance.
@julie975:Yes, like in the Dyatlov Pass, there was a complete feeling that you were watching a movie from that time. And here it really seems that it's too modern for 80
@julie975: Imho, this is done deliberately here. The entourage seems to be the 80s, but it is not thoroughly reproduced. Look at the makeup of older girls, the almost neon circles of the Olympics, and generally working with light.
Whether it was good or bad, whether it worked out or not, whether you like it or not is another matter. But, imho, the setting and the picture were consciously built not so much as "80s", but as "fantastic 80s". As well as the behavior of the characters, conversations.
@Prototype321: what is the problem? The boy doesn't like being bitten by mosquitoes, so he shut down. The girl just doesn't care about them. I go to the lake every day and yes, mosquitoes bite, but if you don't pay attention to the bites and don't scratch them for the first 30 minutes, they pass easily. And they don't bother you.
@Prototype321: Indeed: logic-L. The child goes to bed and makes a "house". Protection that only helps you fall asleep. Purely psychologically. And an adult woman goes swimming at night. The boys who went swimming at night in the camp were afraid, of course. But not mosquitoes 😄
@Okiagari: The character was not invented by the creators of the series, but by the author of the book (Alexey Ivanov). And yes, the author in all his works is distinguished by speaking surnames, sometimes even in the Chekhov style. And here the last name was probably not given to the girl by chance.
The color pattern is gorgeous, pleasing to the eye, I don't know why everyone is unhappy there again, if I don't like anything, I just skip it) let's look further, so far it's not bad
I hadn't heard anything about this series or the book at all, so I decided to just take a look and liked it! Of course, these are not the real 80s, but the way they are now imagined, but it doesn't spoil anything at all!
Hahaha, is it that such tackles, like on a boat, in the style of "your mom doesn't need a son-in-law?" existed since the 80s?)Well, it's kind of hard to imagine) after this phrase, it became clear that this was true, for show, the atmosphere of the 80s was preserved) but in principle I don't mind, the plot drags on, the small actors are still playing normally)
@SilverFIger_7: chuvaaaaaaak) you won't believe it, but even the word "dude" comes from there :) what to say about the shaggy phrases like son-in-law with mom) this story is about 80 years old for sure
The idea is fine, the camera work seems to be the same, but each scene illustrates the word "cringe" It is unclear where so many positive reviews come from at once..
so far, everything is according to the book, in principle, neither good nor bad. it seems pretty cheerful, but I don't really believe it. but I don't like the video sequence at all - everything is very modern, bright, and this animation is out of place, like with a bugler. it seems to me that it would be much cooler if the effect of an aged frame were made to evoke such nostalgia (although I was born 15 years later, but still there is such a feeling in all of us at that time;)
I really liked the good start. The second series this year with the entourage of the USSR. We managed to convey such an atmosphere well here and there.
@Мася: this is the current trend. This year, not only Chikatilo, but also an hour before dawn, and even a policeman from Rublevka. Although imho they are all far from the atmosphere that the Dyatlov Pass managed to convey.
@Мася: by the way, I highly recommend it, it's just a new level. The Soviet entourage is conveyed not just through the atmosphere / costumes / objects, but directly through the shooting effects (black and white square frame, camera work following the example of single-camera shooting), well, music, speech. I was very pleasantly surprised. The production is of such a level that you don't even think about the jambs in the plot when watching
The domestic film sphere has been very encouraging lately. First we go with the Marshes to the village to visit our grandmother, now we go by boat to the pioneer camp, and watch as something goes wrong... I hope it will be just as interesting from now on, it was impossible to break away from the first episode. How good is the camerawork, how nice it is to look at the cardboard child actors! On the stage singing "where childhood goes", I involuntarily shed tears, the girl's voice is very ringing and bright I had questions about this behavior of older children, but I think that children were children at any time, and even among the pioneers there were those who probably shouldn't have been among them. And the USSR in the series is fantastic, not historical, so these questions have disappeared. The poster is ironically reminiscent of Stranger things, and I think it's for a reason. And of course..What a charming gg, it's a pleasure to look at him, I fell in love. The image of such a Shura still resonates in my heart, and the authors have beautifully embodied it. At the current stage, he is very catchy, I wish him good luck and continue to hold this bar.👏
@Zhe_Nya: Yes, yes, I also thought from the poster that this was our answer to "Very strange cases." But judging by the first episode, everything is original, it's just that the authors have slightly shifted the atmosphere from the successful series. Well done, I think) The picture is cool.
I advise you to watch only for the sake of a beautiful picture. Overall, the series is drawn out, the actors overdo it, the characters' motivation is inadequate, and as a result, there will be more questions than answers.
Once again, modern creators make films that seem to be about the Soviet era, but it still turns out to be about themselves.The children are completely different from the pioneers from the time of developed socialism, they have the habits of modern children, the manner and speech epithets from 2021.All these far-fetched allegories of a rotten system do not work in the context of time-bound action-1980 was far from perestroika, at that time people were still faithful to communist ideals and children were raised according to their beliefs, in general, the classic "I do not believe" although aesthetically the picture and the atmosphere, everything looks beautiful, all these red flags and ties.It's another matter what the message of all this action is, so far it seems to be purely anti-Soviet and anti-Communist in the spirit of today's propaganda about the villains of the Bolsheviks.
@vk860469: so the book is openly anti-Soviet, the author is not shy about it. At the same time, the work is imbued with love for the era itself, which contrasts rather unusually with the ideas of the book. I don't know how this will be implemented in the series, but in the book, the closer to the end, the sharper this anti-Soviet line becomes.
@vk860469: this is not a director's technique, but an author's one, it is taken from a book, and moreover, it is explained in a funny way. I think the series will explain this moment too, you just have to wait.
Everything was done well, but the only huge disadvantage is Irina. A complete miskast! Not only was she slim, but she was also much older. If anyone doesn't know, according to the book Irina is the same age as Igor and Veronica, and she is also plump. For this, a huge disadvantage to the creators, a completely unsuccessful choice of an actress, otherwise everything is on a solid 4.
Yes, the description of Irina in the book is very different from the cast (( direct resistance to the character appeared. But what a great Pegasus Whistler))))
It's a good start! The picture is beautiful, the atmosphere is well conveyed, both in the 80s and life in the camp, I was in the camp 1 time and I didn't like it terribly and I share the suspicious attitude of the boy Valera))
Mosquitoes buzz and scare more vampires, a wildly urgent problem!)
The original source is from a good writer, but Podgaevsky was confused about the directors, and for good reason - he immediately reminded me how he likes to spoil everything with bad graphics. The passage of a mosquito is like the passage of a fly from Spider-Man 2002. Bugler is a hard cringe, really it was impossible to finish the makeup with graphics instead of sculpting this whole plasticine
It could have been worse, but it could have been better. The biggest question that worried me the whole series.: Who put up the lights??? I can even close my eyes to sometimes not very good acting, but the light is just terrible in places. Either a light bulb instead of the moon, or searchlights unsuccessfully trying to pretend to be sunset, or the light "from the sun" is playing tricks on both sides at once, or something else. It annoyed the whole series.
Finally, our people have reached nostalgia for the 80s. and the surroundings are cool - a pioneer camp. and the main character is atypical and very charming.
but I knew that Podgaevsky was not the right director for all this (at least they didn't let him in for the script). all the creepy moments are absolutely not scary and look very cartoonish (as in all his works). after all, it was possible to film the episode with "the girl and the drummer" gloomily, with an atmosphere boost, but no, again, we look at how the guys from the CGI department tried very hard (and at the same time, all in poor lighting, which further worsens and cheapens the effects).
my heart feels if Mephisto reviews the series, expect that there will be a lot of inserts with an illuminator. from where? explain to me how can there be such a bright red light coming from the forest (as if there are neon lamps hanging there)? If it's done in the style of "it's a sunset," then it's done cheaply and it's not clear. if this is a metaphor for the fact that it is dangerous there and it is not worth going there, then it is better not to.
She was very positive, but for me, even the atmosphere was somehow not conveyed. there are just red ties on the guys, a couple of girls with hairstyles of that time, blue shadows. that's all. I was expecting our 80's music (as it was in the same strange cases) there's almost a retro wave with some kind of background (and sometimes not a background at all).
I'm a little disappointed so far, but I'll keep watching. the plot seems to be intriguing so far.
P.S. Well, we're waiting for the Swampy collaboration. The convicts living in the forest are probably our acquaintances .
The first episode immerses you in the atmosphere of the 80s. :) Surprisingly, it reminded me a lot of the movie "100 days after childhood". By the way, Sergey Shakurov (on the TV series, participant of the Civil War) I was filming there too :))) I was just playing counselor.
Well, what a shizgara, they sang Chunga-Changa. The actors' acting is featureless. Why do children play Strange games in such a way that you believe them, but these can't? Just don't write to me in the style of "I wish I could see you on the screen." Do counselors go without building sites/virgin lands? Did the whole camp go looking for the missing pioneer after lights out, with the kids? Well, yes, well, yes. Overall, it was poorly shot. The rating is 18+, but it seems like it's for schoolchildren.
I'm waiting for the disadvantages from the agents of kinopoisk
Aesthetically pleasing shots, pleased with the director's work, shooting. Thanks to this, the atmosphere is conveyed. The only thing that's confusing is the characters' speech and the words used don't match the era a bit. Although I may be wrong... I wanted to get acquainted with the book after watching it)
The picture is cool, I liked it very much. The guy with glasses surprised me, he seems modest and shy, but he can take care of himself. I think it will drag on through the series) What I didn't like was, um, the clothes of adult girls seem to be too revealing for the 80s. A short skirt and a top are somehow too much for the USSR. In general, the impressions are very mixed.
@Stoni: since you liked the actor, I advise you to watch another Crystal with him, the penultimate episode is coming out tomorrow. An even more worthy series.
a very good series judging by episode 1, I was interested in the plot, the atmosphere also tightened , I did not expect that the Russian series would tighten me We'll see how it goes , I hope it won't disappoint.
I was reading a book. Pretty good. But the fact that in the first episode they screwed up and screwed it up is a complete horror. I was so looking forward to the series, and I was so disappointed.
Where childhood goes - The girl sang beautifully. She was singing. But those two girls with the song She's got it weren't singing, they were just saying the words.
Everyone writes that the atmosphere of the time is well conveyed, but I don't understand where? I really doubt that the pioneers behaved like that and talked like that, like the girls at the singing lesson. I was born right after the collapse of the USSR, maybe I'm judging by how that time is usually presented to us in cinema? Are there any pioneers here? Tell me how it was) The episode was great, right up to the end. They were whipping up an atmosphere of fear, everything is great. But damn this vampire... More funny than scary
@ЛенкаПтица: I also don't understand where the atmosphere of time is here. The atmosphere of the series itself is special, but it's definitely not the 80s. I have a feeling that all this is happening in the modern world, and the children just went to a pioneer theme camp to play. 😅
@f12: That's the same feeling. It's like kids from modern school movies, like "class," "everyone's going to die and I'm going to stay," and so on... angry and toxic. It is clear that these are children and they are always angry. But take, for example, the movie "scarecrow", which children are there and here? It looks completely different, although the essence is the same.
@ЛенкаПтица: No, we didn't talk like that. In the 80s, I was 6, a little younger than screen kids, but the dialogues hurt my ears. And such a conversation could not take place with counselors. By the way, for each squad there was a student counselor and a tutor, they were completely grown-up people.
The beginning is interesting and intriguing. But after a few episodes, the fog of strangeness and novelty dissipated, and some kind of boring jelly remained. Even the humor is minimal, although the characters and the atmosphere suggest. It feels like even the quality of the actors' acting and filming has gotten worse. The second half of the series was disappointing. You can watch it, but only if similar series have already been watched.
It was shot endlessly beautifully and the graphics are not bad, I get a kick out of it. But the acting, especially of children, leaves much to be desired. From a cheeky counselor in revealing outfits even for our time, and from the scene where she went swimming naked, she caught a cringe. And from many other moments of the series, too, including the overly racy sleeping girl scene, which has already been discussed in the comments above. The atmosphere of the series is also similar to Very Strange Cases, with colors, plot, and musical accompaniment. But, I repeat, the shooting is awesome, I will continue to look at least because of the aesthetic picture.
As they say, "the book is better." Ivanov's atmosphere of summer and childhood can be cut with a knife, but it's not there yet. The plot goes almost one-on-one. I just wonder if they'll come up with a different ending, because the visual hints were too bold.
I really liked the pilot. It was shot perfectly. It's just a pity that Leva was the first to change, I was hoping for their friendship with Valera throughout the series (Ehh..the music didn't last long)
Beautiful views, nature, music, children. The action is very prolonged. Boring, tedious, like a shift at a pioneer camp. Prohibitions and obligations, ostentation, hypocrisy. I don't know if I can "master" all 8 episodes. I'm nostalgic for school horror stories, it's still adequate.
I decided to watch this series, after reviewing it on the Taganay YouTube channel, it's fine so far, but some editing techniques, so to speak, don't seem appropriate to me in the scenes in which they are... for example, the watermelon eating scene... Why would that be?? Or was the director trying to hint at something?And even if it is... It still looks weird. Well, come on, let's see what happens next.One good thing is that it doesn't even smell like trash. and thanks for that, as they say.🐷👌🏻
I patiently watched all the episodes with the thought, "Well, this series can't be that bullshit. It's definitely going to get interesting now." It won't start!!!! I was really impressed by the subject matter and the visual, and the main actor was a boy, but what a not delicious series it turned out to be. My anti-recommendation.
There is a feeling that there were no such fierce children at that time. Everyone was kind and pleasant to talk to. They showed a hop-stop, a girl with a slop mouth and her corresponding last name, and a bunch of unpleasant children... well, seriously?
@mironovaakisa: There were such children at all times, as far as I'm concerned, even more so at that time. Now everything is being solved once and for all, I complained to the management and the offender was punished. And then it was considered snitching, snitching, etc. The opinion of others was more expensive than their own, so they tolerated such bullying.
I don't know if something was missing.And the visual is great, the cinematography is great, the characters seem to be alive, but it didn't feel like it was somehow hyperbolized.
What's good about the series: exposure, suspense, color matching. The last one, the bomb one, I was just admiring. And with regard to the vaunted spirit of the pioneer camp, I'm disappointed, it's much more like a modern camp, with all the cool and blinkered. Maybe it was like that in the 80s too, but so far I'm not sure I believed in the 80s.
It took me a long time to get around to this series. My impressions are still strange. The atmosphere and the painting are good, but there is a sense of inauthenticity. At the very beginning, these scary stories reminded me of one of the episodes of The Investigation.😂
The atmosphere is amazing! I love stories based on Soviet times. In some moments it was really creepy, especially since I watch it at night. I think I realized that the strength of Russian horror and thrillers is not like in America, with ghosts and curses, but with Soviet times. Statues of pioneers, forests, horror stories, and a strict lifestyle are just the thing. I also really liked the acting, it's just like in reality, I've been to the camp many times myself. Valera is a very persistent kid, there have always been such bully girls, the main thing is not to bend under them.
Immediately after reading Ivanov's original, I start watching it. The book left a pleasant impression, and even though I was born 15 years after the events described and had never been to a camp, the author managed to immerse me in the magical atmosphere of that time. But the first episode was already a little disappointing. I agree with those who write that there is no atmosphere of the 80s here, everything is somehow modern. Irina's miscast is at 200%. The actors play unconvincingly. But the girl who plays Anastasia is very beautiful. *_*
People in the comments were expecting a documentary about Soviet vampires in a Soviet camp, but they got a 2021 TV series.
and I liked that the main character is not a bespectacled man with glasses, as they draw according to the canon, but quite defends his position, although he does not get into trouble. The camp's attributes are all as I remember them - cattle, shorts, rulers, girls who stole all my mother's purple cosmetics, and counselors who are pinched in the corners.
the worst thing for me is the death of my brother, with glass, ukala. the counselor's neighbor was smothered by an abuser, was he made so unpleasant to laugh at the counselor, or would he be the first to be cut down so that they wouldn't get upset?
and also, judging by the number of people who read the book in the comments under the first episode, then the comments will be like a minefield: they have read the book, now we need to spoiler, the mission has begun.
@rosabelverde: these are normal people who didn't like it and left, letting others draw their own conclusions, and no one ever asks them questions (unless, of course, when they left they wrote "fuck shit, they probably also messed up 'spoiler' and 'spoiler' in the end!!!!" - purely to amuse their anxiety that they really don't intend to eat this shit, they've read the book). and I'm talking about those who don't even care about the movie, it's important to highlight in the comments the fact that they've read the book, and now, apparently, they need to be given a chocolate medal, because for the sake of this ostentation, they always leak what will happen next.
I've been putting it off for a long time, because I'm not a fan of fiction. But I wanted to see the Soviet camps and other places). I've never been to a camp
When I watched it for the first time, the series seemed normal, it was possible to watch. But now I decided to read a book... Yeah, I wish I hadn't started reviewing it at all. I wish it was a good vampire series in my memory. The characters were completely changed, new characters were added, a lot of vulgarity. Now it's a so-so series for me.
The picture is beautiful, but there are a lot of questions. The first thing that strikes me is that it looks more like a modern pioneer-style camp (I remembered the movie "High Security Vacations"), but there is no complete feeling that we are in the 80s, as, for example, in Very strange Cases. Everything is somehow superficial and primitive in the dialogues and relationships of the characters. I only believed the mosquitoes, in short. The idea and script are good, but the execution was disappointing.
The series seems to be cool, I like the mystical idea and I want to see what's next with all this, but I really don't like the way they behave improbably, like oh no, you got in my way, well, you don't live, they also pick up such words as if they were all there they are sitting in the public pages of VK "how to be rude beautifully"
The atmosphere for a children's camp is too depressing and depressing, and from the very beginning, it was possible to make a transition from a happy and carefree stay in the camp to a complete cunt. Are counselors like supervisors, or was such communication normal in the 80s? If you want to swim naked in the middle of a children's camp, shouldn't they be taught some rules of behavior there, how to communicate with children?.. Although there was no Internet at that time, what is happening does not seem realistic to me, in terms of how the camp escaped notoriety, how parents send their children there and do not control them at all. The actors are kind of unpleasant, in the sense that everyone's behavior and actions are repulsive.
@i_atemi: We still had this in the camps, even in the late 90s and early 2000s. 😂 And the oppressive atmosphere and the counselors of the guards And even the behavior of children 🤗
If you ignore the Soviet stupidity, then the series is quite normal. It's very beautifully shot. The plot of the stars from the sky is not enough, but it's interesting to watch it once.
It's amazing that someone liked this low-grade shit. Although I understand that everyone was fascinated by the Soviet aesthetics. Our response to very strange cases. At the same time, there is zero logic in the series. The actors are wooden. Everything is done for the sake of micro-moments when the viewer is supposed to feel an emotion. And I don't care if these moments are unrelated to each other. Not a script, but a hack. The musical part is generally terrible. Overkill with "action-packed" musical chuggers. The series is about a scoop, and some kind of English-speaking couple is playing. OK, a Bowie cover is fine, but it's so clumsily forced that it's already sickening. Well, fuck the cover of Letova. And this is the first season only. And they say even worse about the second one. As a result, we comrades love to eat shit if served with the right sauce. I don't recommend it to anyone.
I read the book, it was scary to start the series, I was afraid that they would spoil it. But GG got into the image great! The atmosphere is top-notch, the dialogues are really based on the book)) Of the advantages: they did not pull the cat by the tail and showed the leech almost immediately, in the book after 19 chapters only the Lion was bitten) And the kids are playing well! This is really pleasing. Of the minuses, but easy ones: few names are called, not enough. The children around Valera are practically nameless. And it's very sad that Anastasia Sergushina is just beautiful here, maybe they will reveal more, of course, but it looks like her character was ruined.
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But the story seems to be interesting and the entourage is not bad, in places just like a time machine.
But the bright rings of the Olympics surprised a little, were there such bright colored lamps in the USSR of the 80s?
And I don't mind at all, if anything, it's just amazing that they allowed such a thing to be removed.
It is obvious that the girl in the scene is sexualized and several artistic techniques are used for this, but what surprises me more is how people who draw attention to the fact that the children's kind of fun is removed completely, as not a child, are called pedophiles right and left.
It's obvious to me and the girls above that the work of the cameraman, director and screenwriter screams that a girl is a sexual object for a boy.
And the girls above only noticed that they were uncomfortable watching the attraction of children to each other in such a sexualized context.
I repeat, everyone sees and understands the media differently, but in my opinion it is strange to call people pedophiles when they say that sexualizing children is not OK. 🤷🏻♀️
Why not just respect an alternative opinion without insults and ridicule?
I saw several comments that the scene was not quite pleasant to watch, but in response either "there was nothing there, you're imagining everything" or "if you see the subtext there, then you're a pedophile yourself"
And I am slightly surprised by both types of comments, because if a person interprets differently, it does not mean that he wants to see it that way. Sometimes there are objective reasons for this, as here, for example, the use of several different techniques at once in parallel to achieve one goal - to show the boy's attraction. Not a child's sympathy, but a physical attraction. Suggests that this was done intentionally.
But let's agree to disagree. ☺️
And it is clear that our POV is male, and the rating is 18+, but still the camerawork in terms of shooting the girls confused. There are no questions about the bathing scene of an adult actress, but it was unpleasant to watch with a girl.
Again, it is clear that the camera follows the boy's gaze, but this does not make it less unpleasant.
Otherwise great. The teaser of the second series intrigued.
The narrative jumps between the scene by the lake, where the hero is attracted to a bathing girl and a boy who is perhaps attracted to a girl for the first time. For this, it is used both with an adult actress and with a small male gaze. The camera is a boy's look. She first slowly slides up the leg, then a close-up of the girl's neck goes.
If there was no obvious plot parallel and the scene was shot not so close-up, where the girl just lies without languid camera movements, then there would be no questions. ☺️
at first, everyone shouts "there's nothing, nothing vulgar in these angles, there's a cute children's scene," and then when you're a teenage girl riding in a transport and you catch the same sticky look from a guy who licked his lips and winked, is that OK too? and if he still groped? where is the edge? yes, a person has sexuality from birth, but it is not necessary to incite adult uncles against children.
and the Soviet principle is that if you don't show it, then as if there is no, you have already given your fruits and they are shit.
and "inciting adult uncles" is some kind of analogue of "I put on a mini skirt - I asked for it myself"?
in this context, it's more like "it's okay to have a desire for a child, she's like that, she's shown like that, everyone sees her like that." I repeat, the series does not position itself as a children's.
perhaps I shouldn't have read Nabokov at the time, but the fact remains that a lot of girls have been traumatized since childhood. there should be sex education in schools, but there should not be about erotic scenes with children in adult films. because it can be interpreted very well in different ways.
and eroticism is in the eyes of the beholder. someone and everyone's knees are visible for a reason, the line is so thin that it is impossible to understand it.
about sex education in schools - that's right, at least some. the percentage of teenage pregnancies is simply inadequate.
I personally came across a man in the bushes three times as a teenager with, excuse me, a member at the ready. once it was just at a tram stop. and many have similar stories.
perhaps because of these emotional traumas, I want children to be seen as children, and not objects of desire. even for the sake of art.
Whether it was good or bad, whether it worked out or not, whether you like it or not is another matter. But, imho, the setting and the picture were consciously built not so much as "80s", but as "fantastic 80s". As well as the behavior of the characters, conversations.
In general, it's atmospheric and very beautiful.
It is unclear where so many positive reviews come from at once..
but I don't like the video sequence at all - everything is very modern, bright, and this animation is out of place, like with a bugler. it seems to me that it would be much cooler if the effect of an aged frame were made to evoke such nostalgia (although I was born 15 years later, but still there is such a feeling in all of us at that time;)
What 's going on 🤟🏽
There are several possible options.
But I liked it stylistically. 🤙🏽
I'll watch the series for sure, and then I'll draw conclusions.
How did you feel after episode 2?
Well, we'll discuss it later.
How good is the camerawork, how nice it is to look at the cardboard child actors! On the stage singing "where childhood goes", I involuntarily shed tears, the girl's voice is very ringing and bright
I had questions about this behavior of older children, but I think that children were children at any time, and even among the pioneers there were those who probably shouldn't have been among them. And the USSR in the series is fantastic, not historical, so these questions have disappeared.
The poster is ironically reminiscent of Stranger things, and I think it's for a reason.
And of course..What a charming gg, it's a pleasure to look at him, I fell in love. The image of such a Shura still resonates in my heart, and the authors have beautifully embodied it.
At the current stage, he is very catchy, I wish him good luck and continue to hold this bar.👏
Well done, I think) The picture is cool.
The series is saturated with an atmosphere of midday horror and I do not advise people who want to relax behind a funny story about pioneers.
Get used to it)
I advise you to watch only for the sake of a beautiful picture.
Overall, the series is drawn out, the actors overdo it, the characters' motivation is inadequate, and as a result, there will be more questions than answers.
The picture is beautiful, the atmosphere is well conveyed, both in the 80s and life in the camp, I was in the camp 1 time and I didn't like it terribly and I share the suspicious attitude of the boy Valera))
Mosquitoes buzz and scare more vampires, a wildly urgent problem!)
And I like how child actors play👍
but I knew that Podgaevsky was not the right director for all this (at least they didn't let him in for the script). all the creepy moments are absolutely not scary and look very cartoonish (as in all his works). after all, it was possible to film the episode with "the girl and the drummer" gloomily, with an atmosphere boost, but no, again, we look at how the guys from the CGI department tried very hard (and at the same time, all in poor lighting, which further worsens and cheapens the effects).
my heart feels if Mephisto reviews the series, expect that there will be a lot of inserts with an illuminator. from where? explain to me how can there be such a bright red light coming from the forest (as if there are neon lamps hanging there)? If it's done in the style of "it's a sunset," then it's done cheaply and it's not clear. if this is a metaphor for the fact that it is dangerous there and it is not worth going there, then it is better not to.
She was very positive, but for me, even the atmosphere was somehow not conveyed. there are just red ties on the guys, a couple of girls with hairstyles of that time, blue shadows. that's all. I was expecting our 80's music (as it was in the same strange cases) there's almost a retro wave with some kind of background (and sometimes not a background at all).
I'm a little disappointed so far, but I'll keep watching. the plot seems to be intriguing so far.
P.S. Well, we're waiting for the Swampy collaboration. The convicts living in the forest are probably our acquaintances .
The actors' acting is featureless. Why do children play Strange games in such a way that you believe them, but these can't? Just don't write to me in the style of "I wish I could see you on the screen."
Do counselors go without building sites/virgin lands?
Did the whole camp go looking for the missing pioneer after lights out, with the kids? Well, yes, well, yes.
Overall, it was poorly shot. The rating is 18+, but it seems like it's for schoolchildren.
I'm waiting for the disadvantages from the agents of kinopoisk
I don't like the move with songs in English as the soundtrack, it breaks the atmosphere of the USSR of the 80s.
What I didn't like was, um, the clothes of adult girls seem to be too revealing for the 80s. A short skirt and a top are somehow too much for the USSR.
In general, the impressions are very mixed.
and the actor is also pretty)
The atmosphere is just wow, the story about the drummer is cool at first, I love such stories, I'll probably go watch 2 right away.
, I did not expect that the Russian series would tighten me
We'll see how it goes
, I hope it won't disappoint.
They just said it was too short
But those two girls with the song She's got it weren't singing, they were just saying the words.
The episode was great, right up to the end. They were whipping up an atmosphere of fear, everything is great. But damn this vampire... More funny than scary
Straight 10 out of 10.
I advise you to look at it
But the acting, especially of children, leaves much to be desired.
From a cheeky counselor in revealing outfits even for our time, and from the scene where she went swimming naked, she caught a cringe. And from many other moments of the series, too, including the overly racy sleeping girl scene, which has already been discussed in the comments above.
The atmosphere of the series is also similar to Very Strange Cases, with colors, plot, and musical accompaniment.
But, I repeat, the shooting is awesome, I will continue to look at least because of the aesthetic picture.
Ivanov's atmosphere of summer and childhood can be cut with a knife, but it's not there yet.
The plot goes almost one-on-one.
I just wonder if they'll come up with a different ending, because the visual hints were too bold.
It was shot perfectly.
It's just a pity that Leva was the first to change, I was hoping for their friendship with Valera throughout the series (Ehh..the music didn't last long)
It won't start!!!!
I was really impressed by the subject matter and the visual, and the main actor was a boy, but what a not delicious series it turned out to be.
My anti-recommendation.
And with regard to the vaunted spirit of the pioneer camp, I'm disappointed, it's much more like a modern camp, with all the cool and blinkered. Maybe it was like that in the 80s too, but so far I'm not sure I believed in the 80s.
I also really liked the acting, it's just like in reality, I've been to the camp many times myself. Valera is a very persistent kid, there have always been such bully girls, the main thing is not to bend under them.
But the first episode was already a little disappointing. I agree with those who write that there is no atmosphere of the 80s here, everything is somehow modern. Irina's miscast is at 200%. The actors play unconvincingly. But the girl who plays Anastasia is very beautiful. *_*
and I liked that the main character is not a bespectacled man with glasses, as they draw according to the canon, but quite defends his position, although he does not get into trouble.
The camp's attributes are all as I remember them - cattle, shorts, rulers, girls who stole all my mother's purple cosmetics, and counselors who are pinched in the corners.
the worst thing for me is the death of my brother, with glass, ukala.
the counselor's neighbor was smothered by an abuser, was he made so unpleasant to laugh at the counselor, or would he be the first to be cut down so that they wouldn't get upset?
and I'm talking about those who don't even care about the movie, it's important to highlight in the comments the fact that they've read the book, and now, apparently, they need to be given a chocolate medal, because for the sake of this ostentation, they always leak what will happen next.
And the boy protagonist looks like a mini-Professor from a Paper house)))
I only believed the mosquitoes, in short. The idea and script are good, but the execution was disappointing.
And the oppressive atmosphere and the counselors of the guards
And even the behavior of children 🤗
And this is the first season only. And they say even worse about the second one.
As a result, we comrades love to eat shit if served with the right sauce.
I don't recommend it to anyone.
The atmosphere is top-notch, the dialogues are really based on the book))
Of the advantages: they did not pull the cat by the tail and showed the leech almost immediately, in the book after 19 chapters only the Lion was bitten) And the kids are playing well! This is really pleasing.
Of the minuses, but easy ones: few names are called, not enough. The children around Valera are practically nameless.
And it's very sad that Anastasia Sergushina is just beautiful here, maybe they will reveal more, of course, but it looks like her character was ruined.