I still didn't understand what was wrong with Hurrem. She was poisoned with something non-lethal, and then she thinks about it? They're not really trying to sell us magic, are they? What touched me so much, how Suleiman was sitting at the bedside of the patient Hurrem)) Mimimi))) Mihrimah quickly fell out of love with Tashlyjaly...It's not even the fact that she writes right and left with everyone in a row and meets, but the fact that she is so intrusive, you can't just disown her love, she runs and runs after you. Did Nigar confess on purpose? I loved her so much, and now she's become so unpleasant... Hurrem is just a genius. If you feel so bad and you can't breathe straight, why are you yelling at the top of your voice to be served, isn't it easier to reach out and take a glass yourself? Killed him. Somehow it looks ridiculous that the dress of an Italian woman (like the Castilian Isabella) in fact practically does not differ from some Turkish women's outfits. If you deliberately Europeanized your costumes, then you would have already made the costumes of European women in some special way, even more Western. Hatice, I see, is following in her husband's footsteps, does not think with her head at all, only talks with her tongue. I got what I deserved. Although the fight was just terrible, Uzerli played disgusting, as well as fright, as well as her angry screams with bouncing on the spot. And recently her hair looks really bad, especially when it is loose and not in the hairstyle. The Shah, on the other hand, had such luxurious ones in the bath.
@nens8_8y: Great idea! I don't know what's next, whether black magic really came on the scene, but it's a great idea, in the spirit of Hurrem herself. Just as Hurrem poisoned Suleiman's mind with suspicions, so now fear poisons her, self-suggestion is a great thing.
I even feel sorry for the sultan, how he suffers from his guilt in the death of Ibrahim.... (((although I cursed him for this, but in some places I feel so sorry for him. Why was it necessary to make such a decision!
And I was talking about Mihrimah! :) Debauchery in the royal family!
@Sehnsucht: hahaha) No, well, I don't like such soap turns)
I think the decision was right and I understand why Suleiman took it, but I was rushing around with him a hundred times, yes(( On the one hand, all these memories, good moments that even I can't deny and can't help but be touched, common plans, dreams, aspirations, everything I experienced...And on the other - this current arrogance, impunity, arrogance, all his words...
well, it was possible to educate your friend longer. After all, this is not just an arrogant servant, this man has repeatedly proved his interest in the sultan by deeds. I don't like live cuts, I was brought up in a different concept. :) Everyone has a second chance, well, I would just send him to his homeland, far away. Moreover, to kill your friend in a dream?! It's mean. Hatice expressed everything not in an eyebrow, but in an eye... it is very difficult to put such a world in my head, in which you can lose your life for such a truth. I would have been immediately killed in the harem for non-compliance with the laws, I feel.: D
@Sehnsucht: well, according to their laws, Suleiman Ibrahim is not just the second, he gave him a hundred and second chance. Remember how many simpler people have lost their lives for much less reasons. I can say the same about Hurrem, she generally got all possible chances. It's amazing how Suleiman did not dare to execute her in the end. (This is not a secret for anyone and not a spoiler, I hope?))
@nens8_8y: In general, yes, I agree, I remember that Suleiman warned Ibrahim more than once and even said the last time that he should cope with his pride himself....And still! especially in a dream! No, I can't accept it! He suffers ten times more without Ibrahim than with Ibrahim.
There is such a great love, probably, that this woman is everything for a man, but just the TV image of Hurrem was created unsuccessful, you don't believe that this particular bitch can be so loved. I want to tear her head off so much...
After all, women in the royal family are mumblers. Hurrem took it and did it: I don't like the girl, once - and hung her up. One-the second. And these people can't all strangle one Hurrem together with Shah Sultan. ((quite weaklings. And here is Hatice with her gold...I would have distributed and bribed Hurrem's maids to everyone long ago...no, he just talks. Eh, the intelligentsia is rotten. As always, the peasant's grip wins.
@Sehnsucht: ahahha, I liked your interpretation)) But in essence, I do not agree: Hurrem also did not hang the sultan, and a lot of maids died unknown from both sides, who counted them.
Well, love, yes. The contradictory image of Hurrem, yes. But you must agree, Suleiman also does not like Hurrem very unequivocally and unconditionally. Firuse, Isabela, poison, can't protect her normally...There were many such moments when you begin to doubt whether Suleiman loves and still loves or can't wait for someone to strangle her instead of him. Well, at least, I often thought so.
@nens8_8y: Well, at least let the sultans hang the servants of Hurrem, so that she does not have trusted persons. It would be nice to remove Rustem Pasha from circulation. It seems to me that Hurrem has ruined the most girls there.
I agree that Suleiman is distracted by other women and why he returns to Hurrem is not entirely clear - because the circumstances are so formed or by his own will... But I still mean a theoretical premise: it is natural that the sultan looks at others, but they are really temporary, for some reason he does not let Hurrem out of his life. The only time it seemed to me that he looked at Hurrem with real irritation was when he was with Firouze. But when she wanted to get close to his Thursdays, he remembered Hurrem again. A step was taken too early. And his inability to protect her (although it would be necessary to protect everyone from her) - this has nothing to do with love, he is just like this, he is used to entrusting servants.
@nens8_8y: And where were the servants who were right behind Hurrem when she attacked Hatice? It took so long to take three steps, she managed to almost kill Hatice. None of the mistresses goes alone. And again, there is no evidence against Hurrem, no one saw anything, so she gets away with everything, all the murders.
@Sehnsucht: hahah)) I was just starting to watch BB and think like a criminal. Every time in their investigations, I was tempted to start yelling: yes, you cheeeee, you trampled all the evidence, all the suspects were allowed to talk to each other, they did not look at the injuries...How much time do these bruises have?))) Their criminology is so-so)
@Sehnsucht: when I read it as a child, I didn't hate it so much) Somehow I will review the Ukrainian Roksolana with Sumy and plan to look at the Turkish TV series older than this, then it will be possible to compare)
@nens8_8y: in the book, she is not described in this way because ) in the book, you feel sorry for her, admire her and understand what a terrible life she had and how hard it was to achieve at least something in it. I also had the idea to watch the first Turkish TV series, but somehow I doubt that I will be able to, given the number of modern TV series that urgently need to be discussed with friends :D maybe it's closer to retirement...))
I don't like this merchant. Something like she planned. The fight scene is certainly tough. It's strange that there's no one around. They sometimes go in droves, then suddenly they are alone.
I still didn't quite understand why Hurrem fucked Hatice..🤔 I assume that she was under some kind of substance? And then what was the end of the last episode, where she falls unconscious near Hatice?? I hope they will explain the hddd to me And yet, throwing away the details, I am happy that Hurrem finally gave "dynasty" what it deserved 👌 😎
The scene at the end is the best! 👏 Finally, Hatice got slapped in the face (I apologize for this expression), because there are too many vye in the last series...it's getting better.
I don't like this Gabriella, she's a suspicious person... 🧐
Shah-Khuban is the most intelligent woman of the whole family, the most beautiful, but unfortunately, the most unhappy woman. And this can be seen from the 1st of its appearance. I want to see her happy, but this is BB... 😒
I don't understand what's wrong with Hurrem, but it looks like a strong autosuggestion. From the point of view of the modern world, if we judge: most likely it was some kind of powder or decoction, in which a handkerchief was soaked, which has a hypnotic effect and fogs the mind. Most likely it is made of herbs, and some other poe * eni. And naturally, there was a weakness at first, and an allergy for a day. But magic!? Whoooo, zacheyem, WTF!? I hope soon she will behave as usual again, as she knows how.
Bali Bay-no matter what he does, any appearance of him is a ray of light on the screen! 😍❤ I would like him and Mihrimah to be together, but alas and ah...
The series went more saturated, however. Very interesting to watch )
Михримах: возьми письмо и тайно положи Бали-Бею в комнату, чтобы никто не видел. В тоже время слуга: спокойно идёт по дворцу и светит в руках письмом. Занавес. Ну блин в рукав хотя бы спрячь. Где Михримах этого слугу откопала, госпадиии
За султанами вечно слуги по пятам ходят. А тут ни у Хатидже никого, ни у Хюррем. Ладно еще первая, но вторая .... явно одой лучше не быть судя по здоровью. Но, конечно, бесспорно, что Хатидже давно леща просила.
Когда Хюррем отделала Хатидже у меня вырвался крик :" Наконец-то " Потому что бесит Хатидже. Нет бы детьми заниматься и собой. Она плетет интриги из-за того, что якобы Хюррем виновата в смерти Ибрагима (нет). Мне порой некоторых героев через монитор отделать хочется, потому что слов не понимают.
Я смотрю, здесь одни озверелые орангутаны собрались. Клуб любителей Хюррем. "Хатидже отмудохали - поделом" - по каким "делом"? За что она заслужила? За истерики? За месть за любимого мужа? Тогда Хюррем четвертовать вообще надо. Она и есть ту чудище, которое поселилось во дворце и губит всех. ВСЕХ. Валиде с ее подачи умерла. Ибрагим - в том числе благодаря ее постоянным наускиваниям и вранью. Все уже забыли, как она за ребенка Ибрагима выторговывала себе высылку Ферузе? Нигяр после всего про ребенка не сказала, решила его повыгодней продать. А Мустафа ей что сделал? За что он его пыталась и пытается убить? Мало того убить, так еще и Ибрагима оклеветала. С Хатидже опять же оболгала ее же. Ибрагим при всех его грехах не подставлял, не нудил, что надо кого-то казнить, никого не наускивал. Да, наворотили оба много зла, но расплата у них разная. Ибрагим подло убит (именно убит, а не казнен), а Хюррем - как ни в чем. Правда что змея, всех ядом залила, и продолжает ползать. И ни разу еще свое не получила.
@natabena: вау, единомышленник!!! Только готовьтесь, что вам минусов наставят, у меня в каждом комментарии дофига минусов, за то, что посмела в сторону "святой" Хюррем отрицательно высказаться! Большей злодейки, чем эта рыжая гадюка в сериале нет, хотя муженёк ей под стать, воистину Сулейман и Хюррем друг друга стоят!
@id386471659: та в цьому серіалі за 350 годин було півтора приблизно персонажі, від яких би не нудило в реальному житті, які нікого не вбили, не довели до смерті, не звели з розуму чи не зруйнували життя. І це точно не персонажі першого, другого або навіть третього плану. Всі головні зірки історії варті одна одного, просто бісять одна в цій серії більше, інша -- в іншій. Взагалі жодної різниці.
What touched me so much, how Suleiman was sitting at the bedside of the patient Hurrem)) Mimimi)))
Mihrimah quickly fell out of love with Tashlyjaly...It's not even the fact that she writes right and left with everyone in a row and meets, but the fact that she is so intrusive, you can't just disown her love, she runs and runs after you.
Did Nigar confess on purpose? I loved her so much, and now she's become so unpleasant...
Hurrem is just a genius. If you feel so bad and you can't breathe straight, why are you yelling at the top of your voice to be served, isn't it easier to reach out and take a glass yourself? Killed him.
Somehow it looks ridiculous that the dress of an Italian woman (like the Castilian Isabella) in fact practically does not differ from some Turkish women's outfits. If you deliberately Europeanized your costumes, then you would have already made the costumes of European women in some special way, even more Western.
Hatice, I see, is following in her husband's footsteps, does not think with her head at all, only talks with her tongue. I got what I deserved. Although the fight was just terrible, Uzerli played disgusting, as well as fright, as well as her angry screams with bouncing on the spot. And recently her hair looks really bad, especially when it is loose and not in the hairstyle. The Shah, on the other hand, had such luxurious ones in the bath.
I even feel sorry for the sultan, how he suffers from his guilt in the death of Ibrahim.... (((although I cursed him for this, but in some places I feel so sorry for him. Why was it necessary to make such a decision!
And I was talking about Mihrimah! :) Debauchery in the royal family!
I think the decision was right and I understand why Suleiman took it, but I was rushing around with him a hundred times, yes(( On the one hand, all these memories, good moments that even I can't deny and can't help but be touched, common plans, dreams, aspirations, everything I experienced...And on the other - this current arrogance, impunity, arrogance, all his words...
well, it was possible to educate your friend longer. After all, this is not just an arrogant servant, this man has repeatedly proved his interest in the sultan by deeds. I don't like live cuts, I was brought up in a different concept. :) Everyone has a second chance, well, I would just send him to his homeland, far away.
Moreover, to kill your friend in a dream?! It's mean.
Hatice expressed everything not in an eyebrow, but in an eye... it is very difficult to put such a world in my head, in which you can lose your life for such a truth. I would have been immediately killed in the harem for non-compliance with the laws, I feel.: D
I can say the same about Hurrem, she generally got all possible chances. It's amazing how Suleiman did not dare to execute her in the end. (This is not a secret for anyone and not a spoiler, I hope?))
He suffers ten times more without Ibrahim than with Ibrahim.
There is such a great love, probably, that this woman is everything for a man, but just the TV image of Hurrem was created unsuccessful, you don't believe that this particular bitch can be so loved. I want to tear her head off so much...
After all, women in the royal family are mumblers. Hurrem took it and did it: I don't like the girl, once - and hung her up. One-the second. And these people can't all strangle one Hurrem together with Shah Sultan. ((quite weaklings. And here is Hatice with her gold...I would have distributed and bribed Hurrem's maids to everyone long ago...no, he just talks. Eh, the intelligentsia is rotten. As always, the peasant's grip wins.
Well, love, yes. The contradictory image of Hurrem, yes. But you must agree, Suleiman also does not like Hurrem very unequivocally and unconditionally. Firuse, Isabela, poison, can't protect her normally...There were many such moments when you begin to doubt whether Suleiman loves and still loves or can't wait for someone to strangle her instead of him. Well, at least, I often thought so.
It seems to me that Hurrem has ruined the most girls there.
I agree that Suleiman is distracted by other women and why he returns to Hurrem is not entirely clear - because the circumstances are so formed or by his own will... But I still mean a theoretical premise: it is natural that the sultan looks at others, but they are really temporary, for some reason he does not let Hurrem out of his life. The only time it seemed to me that he looked at Hurrem with real irritation was when he was with Firouze. But when she wanted to get close to his Thursdays, he remembered Hurrem again. A step was taken too early. And his inability to protect her (although it would be necessary to protect everyone from her) - this has nothing to do with love, he is just like this, he is used to entrusting servants.
And again, there is no evidence against Hurrem, no one saw anything, so she gets away with everything, all the murders.
I am terribly outraged that no one believed Hatija and Hurrem got away with it again.
was Roxalana really such a reptile?
I also had the idea to watch the first Turkish TV series, but somehow I doubt that I will be able to, given the number of modern TV series that urgently need to be discussed with friends :D maybe it's closer to retirement...))
The fight scene is certainly tough. It's strange that there's no one around. They sometimes go in droves, then suddenly they are alone.
I assume that she was under some kind of substance? And then what was the end of the last episode, where she falls unconscious near Hatice?? I hope they will explain the hddd to me
And yet, throwing away the details, I am happy that Hurrem finally gave "dynasty" what it deserved 👌 😎
I don't like this Gabriella, she's a suspicious person... 🧐
Shah-Khuban is the most intelligent woman of the whole family, the most beautiful, but unfortunately, the most unhappy woman. And this can be seen from the 1st of its appearance. I want to see her happy, but this is BB... 😒
I don't understand what's wrong with Hurrem, but it looks like a strong autosuggestion. From the point of view of the modern world, if we judge: most likely it was some kind of powder or decoction, in which a handkerchief was soaked, which has a hypnotic effect and fogs the mind. Most likely it is made of herbs, and some other poe * eni. And naturally, there was a weakness at first, and an allergy for a day. But magic!? Whoooo, zacheyem, WTF!? I hope soon she will behave as usual again, as she knows how.
Bali Bay-no matter what he does, any appearance of him is a ray of light on the screen! 😍❤
I would like him and Mihrimah to be together, but alas and ah...
The series went more saturated, however. Very interesting to watch )
В тоже время слуга: спокойно идёт по дворцу и светит в руках письмом. Занавес.
Ну блин в рукав хотя бы спрячь. Где Михримах этого слугу откопала, госпадиии
Человек ради власти идет по трупам. Воистину - в моем детстве герои, за которых болели, были другие)