s02e04 — Episode 4

29 Jan 2021, 01:07 #

wow! They promised that the series would start with the fourth episode with major plot changes, and THEY WEREN'T KIDDING. I am shocked, I did not expect that so many chapters would be stupidly discarded (not to mention the whole arch) :D IZBELLA, hello again! The second main twist, it is extremely interesting how her line will develop now. THAT PERSON IS NOT PRESENT I'M SAD. But the message was left in the notebook. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON (Steve Carell with banana) :D I'm sorry for the caps, I'm still going away.

wqrytv_

29 Jan 2021, 01:17 #

@Shikisen_Hishune: Are the changes very serious? In terms of, has the plot deviated completely from the manga? (current without spoilers)

29 Jan 2021, 01:21 #

@wqrytv_: No, not completely, but rather accelerated many times. Maybe the discarded stuff was left for later.

29 Jan 2021, 01:26 #

@wqrytv_: a very huge deviation, they have already thrown out at least 1 Persian (so far) and an entire arch, well, or they will return to it in some other way...

Sqev

29 Jan 2021, 08:30 #

@wqrytv_: Of the 20 volumes of the manga, they threw out virtually everything from volume 7 to volume 13.

I don't even know if it's good or bad.
All these 6 missing volumes practically did not reveal the world in any way and were just an arch about fighting demons.
The anime turns out to be more focused on the plot.

TeaWenLiGreen

10 Jan 2023, 21:48 #

@Sqev: Well, it turned out to be a more concentrated plot, huh?
gt; "I don't even know if it's good or bad"
> Got rid of a third of the original plot (and this is only at the time of the 4th episode. He will not remember what will happen next)
WELL, IT's VERY NICE

29 Jan 2021, 01:27 #

@Shikisen_Hishune: нашла январскую новость на animenewsnetwork, что Shirai Kaiu (создатель с Позуко манги) участвует в сценарии сериала. "The magazine teases that viewers will be able to also see "another The Promised Neverland" in the second season of the anime". Окей, буду теперь лучше следить за новостями интересующих меня сериалов.

29 Jan 2021, 01:31 #

@Shikisen_Hishune: if the author is really involved in this, then I wonder what he wants to change. In general, it may even be good, but then this series is a filler before something cool. Okay, I can believe it, because I want to believe in the best.

29 Jan 2021, 02:07 #

@demony: there was a rumor from somewhere (I can't name the source) that the creators were unhappy with how the story ended in the end, and what twists were used for this, but it seemed to me then that only the fans were shouting about it; after reading the ending, I read only the special chapters and that's it, no interviews, etc. I had to listen and dig deeper :It's good when the creators have a chance to fix something and implement what they want, I'm happy for them and not against the changes, but I'm VERY sad about some of the characters, so I hope that they will be included in the plot someday.
P. S. That's whose radical changes I will be incredibly happy about, so it's to Blichevsky :D

29 Jan 2021, 02:24 #

@Shikisen_Hishune: Well, you know, I was also unhappy with the ending at first, but then rethinking everything, it became normal for me. If you think about it, it was a fairy tale with some morality from the very beginning, so the ending fits pretty well into the fairy tale theme))

DioBrando

29 Jan 2021, 01:22 #

I'm so worried about them 😬

29 Jan 2021, 01:24 #

A terrible series. And not only because now the plot is not the same as in the manga. I just don't really understand what they are trying to achieve with such changes in the plot.
I will try without spoilers. But now everything that happens to them looks extremely toylike. Let's think about these special forces. In this world, people are either food or some things that should fulfill their function for demons. The special forces must be very well trained. And what do we see in this series? One of these Persians is shot with an arrow in front of his head, and he's like, " Okay, I'm in the camp, guys, run through."
Are you kidding? Children are the food that they came to bring back. And the most important thing in them is the brain. You can safely shoot at the legs, hands, and so on, the main thing is not to kill. And with all other injuries, you can preserve it with the help of a flower. And then they shoot at the special forces with two or three arrows that do not even pierce him, and the children again calmly dump in the cave.
Then it only gets funnier. Of course, a demon jumps out, which manages to eat ONLY the special forces (okay, you can understand the first one, he shot, but why didn't he trample someone, etc.). Well, okay, let's say luck again. Ray shoots and hits exactly in the eye! Of course, it is the part of the body that demons die from. I think it's not even a spoiler, if it was shown in the series and remember the masks of demons. Just 2+2. Well, lucky again, you say? But let's summarize: they were attacked by special forces who knew about the shelter, knew about the emergency exits, knew their goal. And what did the children do as a result? Just ran and shot arrows, as a result of which they were able to kill a HUGE demon and 5 special forces? Cute. But I think it spoils the sense of danger of this world. When they ran away, they were already filled with good demons, and now again? Maybe they will immediately go to the shelter and save the other children in the same way?
I won't even mention what a big deviation from the plot in the manga is here.
Some kind of SubwaySurfers.

P1RoG

02 Feb 2021, 21:24 #

@demony: the fact that Ray shot in the eye is not an accident \ luck, in the previous episode, a "friendly" demon told them that if you meet demons, then run, if you can't run, shoot in the eye
The special forces did not know about all the spare moves, this is evident from the fact that the little one who knew where the exits were asked the special forces a leading question, the answer of which suggested that they did not know anything about the second move
, well, the children did not calmly dump in the cave after they shot arrows at him, they also pushed him down on purpose after as he was disoriented by the shots, yes, the arrows did not penetrate, but the force of their flight was visible enough to knock down the sight for a hand with a machine gun, as the surprise effect worked

well, shots at children will spoil their "first-classness" a little)
the demon was most likely not killed with a shot in the eye, but just disoriented again, the eye hurts
and he ate the commandos first because they posed the greatest threat, they shot, this is how animal instincts work like in the wild, first of all you deal with those who will inflict more damage on you, in order to minimize this damage by themselves

07 Feb 2021, 18:25 #

@P1RoG: No, the demon just died. Reconsider: first Dominic shoots and hits, as far as I can see, in the eye, the demon doesn't care. And then Ray gets into the right eye (I won't say what makes it right, and what it gives), and the demon grunts, his whole head swells. Moreover, a hint from Seongju ("shoot in the eyes") It doesn't work because demons have a lot of eyes, and as you can see from Dominic's example, not every blow to the eye turns out to be fatal.

Dar13

16 Jun 2022, 23:44 #

Well, it was "between the eyes", it seems) and he ate the commandos, I think because they shot and created bright flashes of sound and light🤔 it was clear where the target was

AssBurger

08 Sep 2024, 20:58 #

Yes, these are author's deviations from physics / logic, which you have to turn a blind eye to. So that a 12-year-old child without much shooting experience, running away, hit a moving small target at long range, in smoke, in a U-turn jump - we believe 😏

fennec_fox

29 Jan 2021, 02:27 #

My first manga. After the previous episode, I couldn't resist, I couldn't wait for the sequel for so long!
I'm just shocked at how much important and bright things were missed. I don't know how events will turn further, but those characters who were in the manga between the bunker and escaping from it are very lacking:(They are one of the most memorable personalities! How could they have been missed! Such emotional episodes would be :((

Now I can't wait to find out what happens next and how it all ends in the anime!

ВаняИванов

29 Jan 2021, 13:36 #

@fennec_fox: the point is that in the manga they lived in a bunker for several years in order to grow up and other characters later gained strength. And how it will be now is not clear at all. Maybe they'll find another bunker or something. Plus, while they were in the manga bunker, they were studying the history of this world.

flashh

29 Jan 2021, 03:05 #

It would be fine if they really changed the plot, but this is not a change, but just throwing out chapters from the plot (moreover, the most interesting ones). It was still worth leaving this arch as it is, and changing what was after it. Compared to the manga, everything is somehow too childish, or something. There is no such intensity of passion... I highly recommend it to those who have not read it. Although, if you look at it from the other side, if I hadn't read manga, I wouldn't have been so bombed.

29 Jan 2021, 03:14 #

@flashh: It's not a fact that they just threw out the arch. Perhaps they will go there after all, it's just that this attack happened earlier. But so far it really looks like they are going straight to the final part)

flashh

29 Jan 2021, 03:12 #

So far, it seems that the writers want to shorten everything as much as possible and keep within two seasons, but it's a pity. We'll see how it goes on, we hope for the best.

Mikita

29 Jan 2021, 03:26 #

I'm not happy.
After the last episode, I was upset that there might not be my favorite arch and characters, but I thought that since the author is involved in creating a new story, then okay, maybe they will do something interesting, we will watch. I probably thought in vain.
So far, it looks more like not the author's desire to change the plot, but as imposed by the studio "we have little timing, let's cut out the prescribed plot for something faster and more typical."
We will watch, but so far I have not seen anything positive in the new "original" plot.

ashd7700

29 Jan 2021, 04:13 #

It is clear that children here have a central place in the plot, so they will not be killed now, but it looked strange, to be honest, that of all those who were there, the demon devoured only the special forces, who should be prepared for such situations, and the children were more lucky, although they were less trained.
It will be interesting to see what Mom will do. I haven't read the manga, but apparently, she was offered something very tempting. It is curious that👀

DmitriyPetrov

29 Jan 2021, 11:26 #

@ashd7700: Probably give her her son.

ashd7700

29 Jan 2021, 19:05 #

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Vlad_Sherbi

30 Jan 2021, 01:29 #

@ashd7700: children are less educated, and they are also tastier than adults

AlfeG

30 Jan 2021, 05:01 #

@ashd7700: The children don't have firearms. Adults are more dangerous

Superintendent

30 Jan 2021, 20:44 #

@ashd7700: This is an anime about a crowd of children, here logic and common sense rest

F0X1-

29 Jan 2021, 07:40 #

I worry about the anime characters more than for myself🤠

Mixtum

29 Jan 2021, 17:07 #

Guys, this story is much deeper and more diverse! In the manga. Here we were shown some incredibly crudely compressed and disgusting narrative of the plot, skipping over many events, characters, stories and secrets. For me, it would be better not to shoot the sequel at all. Because some kind of sur is coming out.
After the first episode of the second season, I read the manga and did not regret it. If you want to see the picture fully revealed, read it too. I really recommend it to you.
And what they're selling us now is a pathetic travesty.
I was very upset, there were so many expectations: (
P.S.: and yes, I am aware that the author of the manga is also working on creating anime and that he "wants to fix something there because he doesn't like something there." I will say this - this is a terrible act on his part. To spoil your own created work so much.

MidoriChitose

29 Jan 2021, 22:40 #

I am glad that I am not the only one who was very upset because of how much the plot does not follow the manga. they really threw out a key arch about the formation of characters, plus there is no information about the world, unlike the manga.. It's sad, of course, while I'm watching, but there is already doubt that something really worthwhile will come out.

Fogster

30 Jan 2021, 04:50 #

Damn, can you tell me, please, up to about what chapter of the manga can be read so that events in it do not go further than this series? I don't want to spoil myself with a manga, but I can't help but read it - they intrigued me with the thrown-out arch and some important characters.

Mixtum

30 Jan 2021, 14:46 #

@Fogster: We'll have to go a little bit from afar and return to the chapter where they find the bunker. It was from that moment on that everything went wrong. This is chapter 52. And the escape from this bunker in a completely different scenario begins in chapter 104. And in chapter 109, the children reach the forest.
You will just be stunned by how much you have cut out))

Fogster

30 Jan 2021, 18:39 #

I guess I'll have to read everything. Thank you very much ❤

Gordey

30 Jan 2021, 12:08 #

Damn, how quickly they were found... Did Minerva split up and give up the existence of the bunker?

07 Feb 2021, 18:39 #

@Gordey: at least, Ray himself wrote the coordinates of the bunker on the tree in the first episode. So they got there.
Which, by the way, is incredibly stupid of him: his whole team already knows where they need to go, and the demons don't know why give them such important information? No, at least just write "go there. They are being persecuted."
The funny thing is, he did that in the manga too. Truly one of the three geniuses.)

naoliii

30 Jan 2021, 18:53 #

Well, what can I say, rest in peace🙂👍

fksmeesss

30 Jan 2021, 19:33 #

since I haven't read the manga, it seemed to me that the series was good enough..but now there is a very twofold impression of the series, I'm even a little upset
, I think it's better to read the manga..

michiiiru

30 Jan 2021, 19:58 #

I can't say I'm unhappy with the anime. Rather, I'm just upset that some moments for some reason decided to change or not show in the anime.

If you look from the viewer who has not read the manga, then the anime, it seems to me, does not give up momentum and everything looks amazing from the point of view of animation and pictures.

frau_berta

30 Jan 2021, 23:35 #

It's a pity that the most delicious piece of the arch was thrown away. Even if the Nameless One does appear sometime in the future, everything will clearly not be so emotional, since in the anime it would be stupid to repeat the moment with the capture of the bunker once again.

nandi

31 Jan 2021, 15:27 #

When I read the comments "The book/manga/comic is better!!!111 How many were cut out!!!!!" I think - why are these comments needed at all, if there is another work here? Does it say somewhere that this is frame-by-frame playback?

And, yes, there will be a frame-by-frame, comments will appear "Why is it so long?! Why are they already running two episodes down the same corridor?!"

There will never be completely satisfied. But comparing anything with the original source is like saying, "But your dad at your age..."

07 Feb 2021, 18:45 #

@nandi: I also don't think it's worth being outraged if the film is not shot frame-by-frame, but you probably didn't understand. They didn't cut any small scenes here, or a lot of scenes, no. Whole volumes were cut out here, many volumes, whole arches, whole characters. And they replaced it with some kind of caricature.
You can cut something out, even if it's a lot, there are unfortunate moments everywhere (although not only unsuccessful, but also good and important events were cut out here), this is their right as screening, but they slip us some absolutely crumpled and illogical actions, illogical in themselves, in isolation from the manga. An example is the comment above from demon about how the children of the special forces won with a pair of arrows.

nandi

07 Feb 2021, 21:45 #

@somebody_sss: I understand everything. But I have long been accustomed to watching anime / movie / TV series / game as a separate work, even if I know the original source. Because otherwise it will be impossible to watch anything at all, except for the author's films based on original scripts.

About the illogical moments in this anime, as in any other, you can talk endlessly and I'm ready to discuss it, but not in the context of "And in the book it was not soooooo!!!".

Example: I love the Lord of the Rings movies, but in theory I should be hysterical about how much Jackson ruined and distorted everything and in general, where are Tom and his wife?!!! But would that be the right thing to do?

08 Feb 2021, 18:36 #

@nandi: I don't know. It's just that we're all disappointed that they're giving us this for such a good first season. I hope that it will be better from now on, but so far the 4th and especially the 5th series are downright very strange.)

Zurik23M

01 Feb 2021, 02:59 #

It's a shame that such an interesting arch was removed. Yugo was a very important character for the children, he taught them a lot, and they taught him. I really wanted to see it in the anime, eh. It makes me very sad. If you forget about this, then the series is of course beautiful, like all the previous ones. The plot is moving, the children are working, the enemies are not standing still. I wonder what awaits them next (after cutting out the whole arch, now I can't imagine what's ahead).

Ronin666

01 Feb 2021, 12:47 #

Wow and the action has begun)

Lanfir777

01 Feb 2021, 14:32 #

Vanguyu that the demon promised Isabella Ray, which is why she was so lit up

muramuralu

03 Feb 2021, 22:55 #

Yes, it also seemed to me that he would ensure freedom not only for her, but also for her son! but Wang said that if she caught them, then Ray would never betray the guys)

liventus

19 Feb 2021, 15:15 #

@Lanfir777: Ray is Isabella's son...??? Was this mentioned in the first season?

19 Feb 2021, 15:43 #

@liventus: Yes, my son. As far as I remember, it was said. When it was shown that he had a peculiarity with memory, because of which he knew about everything since childhood.

cassiopeiaaria

02 Apr 2021, 10:43 #

@Lanfir777: I know it's late, but I just can't help but write.
/ignore/
Your assumption is utter nonsense, since Ray is a first-class product. There's no way they're going to let him go.

Lanfir777

06 Apr 2021, 09:15 #

@cassiopeiaaria: To promise and do these are terrible things, isn't it?

cassiopeiaaria

06 Apr 2021, 09:51 #

@Lanfir777: and you are treacherous °0°
My bowler hat didn't think of that😅

Crazyblood

18 Jun 2023, 23:10 #

Really?
In my opinion, it will soon expire from a first-class product
He's already 12+

krisstyajesus

08 Feb 2021, 08:03 #

I will omit my dissatisfaction with the deviation from the original plot, because the guys above said everything they could. when watching the series at the moment where Anna was writing down the date in a notebook, a question arose - the children ran away on January 15, 2046, as mentioned in the manga and in the first season of the anime. Plus we traveled for one day and stayed with song-joo and musica for another 6 days. so it's January 23, 2046, but Anna wrote on January 23, 2047. Did they live in a bunker for a year doing nothing? it is unlikely, because several factors indicate this. But then what? Is it just a blunder?

shapiroom

09 Feb 2021, 01:22 #

Where are Yugo and Lucas? Where is the arch with the degradation of demons and lands?
The film adaptation is disappointing.

liventus

19 Feb 2021, 15:14 #

Why didn't they explain what the children saw at the end of the last episode? (It was written 'Help', etc.) Maybe someone knows?
The first season seemed to me to be more dynamic. I haven't read the book, in general, everything is fine

19 Feb 2021, 15:48 #

@liventus: it was left by those who used to live there; or, rather, the one in this scenario.

liventus

19 Feb 2021, 18:24 #

@somebody_sss that's how I realized that those who were here earlier left, but why didn't they tell Emma about it and it wasn't touched on at all?

20 Feb 2021, 15:13 #

@liventus: That's a good question, we're all interested in it too. :D
Because two arches were cut, one was just connected with the one who wrote it.)

rin_rin

06 Mar 2021, 02:34 #

Judging by the many unhappy comments about the discrepancies with the manga, we should probably read and find out what was thrown out of the plot🥺

But I still like anime, you can feel the tension from every episode!🙈✨

akira1098

06 Apr 2021, 06:45 #

As a person who has not read manga, I will say that it still looks very good and interesting. Yes, it feels like they are in a hurry to put everything into 11 episodes.

But I don't feel uncomfortable watching it, as it happens with other projects where you watch anime and don't understand what's going on, go to the comments to read if you're the only one so dumb. And it turns out that you can't understand the plot without manga.

zdyrokyura

08 Apr 2021, 14:14 #

Excellent series

Meloman_Nastena

22 Aug 2021, 12:10 #

I haven't read the manga, maybe there are really very interesting arcs, but something doesn't appeal to me at all to watch them hang out in a bunker for several episodes without advancing the main plot. And so I rather want to see what's next

Dar13

16 Jun 2022, 23:46 #

It's just that most of the comments are about how much was thrown out of the manga) I think I won't read the manga😄💁🏼♀️

MidnightPhoenix

05 Jan 2023, 18:08 #

It turns out that the children lived in this bunker for a year? Then why do they still have such a small vegetable garden? And how have they not grown out of their shoes yet?

Kritik-tok

11 May 2023, 16:34 #

Not special forces, but a joke. Did those who sent them not believe that children could be found at all?

With a demon, you could have held the action longer. He just got into a rage and hop! An arrow in the eye - the demon passes. Hurtful.

den_chicken