s01e04 — Исступление

the series, of course, only leads to even more misunderstandings. You're sitting there and you don't know how to live until next Thursday with so many questions. but character dialogues are a separate art.

There are more and more questions, fewer and fewer answers

Of course, such series should be released entirely at once)

I'm not the only one who noticed that compared to the very cool three pilot series, the 4th series is twenty-two heads HIGHER?!The
plot is moving, the characters are revealed, it's all good, BUT the actors play better, the dialogues even seem simpler and more pleasant to sound, and still such shots... SUCH that the actors sometimes go into the background altogether. to be honest, the operators said ‘vi ar ze best'. It's a shame to wait another week, but it's worth it.

It's not fucking clear, but it's very interesting
The convicts only added fuel to the fire with their remarks, now it is clear why the police are driving the car. It feels like the combine is the reason for all this.
So far, everything fits into the concept that the main fears of the characters materialize in this place. Something gives the impression that the one-eyed grandfather, if not the owner, is somehow connected with him

A few chaotic experiences.

1. The characters and lines of blonde and Ali do not like the word at all. I also don't like the blonde's sister. It's interesting to watch the lines of the guys and Katya.

2. And the policeman. Maybe he's not so rotten after all? Why did he want to take those who were still there to the train? So it's possible? Has he been walking around there for so many years, aware of everything, scared, but nevertheless ready to try?

3. How are the "technogenic" line of the plant and this "divine" heresy of theirs connected?

4. A creepy moment with Alina, even the photos on the tombstones were not so impressed.

The sister is still a bitch, they only begged her back in vain

Butterfly Effect?)

Oh my God, and psychedelics of course. although it's really interesting. In any case, we don't have many such series. extraordinary, so to speak) let's see what happens next. as long as they don't leak everything at the end

Why does the policeman have a black-and-white photo of his son? Why hasn't Arina's age changed? Why is there no connection? I will keep silent about the rest of the questions.. I wonder if the accident at the chemical plant also happened in 1999?

they are pumping and pumping....Will the answers be in the last episode? but obviously not all of them

I decided to wait until all the remaining episodes are released, otherwise you're just annoying yourself, the series is awesome! Ahaha

Given the plot, this should be watched as they watched the Darkness from Netflix: all episodes in one gulp. And just the first 3 episodes just went great in this format. In vain they decided to change the pitch (or at least did it like with Dyatlov Pass, where several episodes were rolled out at once).

And so it is good, although nothing is really clear, except the fact of being in the afterlife.

I increasingly doubt that this is really an Afterlife (purgatory). The cop's behavior and remarks are very distracting from this. He's a local. Alina's photo, the grave in the last episode, the priest constantly hanging himself - all this is still confusing, and this makes it even more interesting. After each episode, I want to sit and discuss.
I believe that all the lines will be properly justified. Because I already doubt all the theories.

Apparently, time stopped at this place because of this plant with fumes, some experiments were probably carried out. This explains the police instead of the police, ageless Lolita and other mysticism

I wonder why Lisa didn't immediately try to leave the monastery? Or a monastery like a buffer zone between the world of the afterlife, and Lisa's soul is not yet strong enough to get into purgatory. And the priest probably hangs himself on purpose to resurrect. And there are also very creep inscriptions on the walls in his room.

It's getting more and more interesting. My opinion from the watched series is as follows:
1. "Hell's Forge" i.e. the factory is Hell. Or a certain place that negatively affects the Anomalous Zone of the "Swamp" (you can't call it anything else).
2. A blind grandfather can be anyone. From God, to a certain observer (he looked out the window, he walks in the fields, crawls on the ground, etc.).
3. All our characters are dead. I wrote in the last episode that the first girl "survived", but my theory failed when we saw this girl as a grandmother.
4. "Swamps" - Purgatory / Hell - where everyone does not die and does not age (I think a non-Russian will not die on the gallows, as a priest does not die).
5. The priest could have been corrupt during his lifetime, for this he remained in the Swamps (bundles of money on his desk, maybe even he burns them every day over and over again).
6. As mentioned above, the village can give the embodiment of the desires and fears of the heroes in Reality. Arina is the embodiment of a journalist's desire and, judging by her graduation date (1999), has also been dead for a long time.
Don't judge my observations strictly, I'm just a spectator, not a critic.

(The only thing I didn't understand was why my sister died again as soon as she went outside. She was defrosted. Or they beg to talk and they immediately die outside the temple, as the grandmother's husband died again. "I begged him off" means I also revived him).

but the question does not let me go, what in the first or second series was the policeman doing in the house of this 14-year-old girl? it's also as if they've known each other for a long time (well, obviously they have, but as if there's a connection between them, maybe even she's the mother of his son)

I like Max as a character

Has Elya fallen into another reality? Why didn't the journalist find her? And my sister is a bitch.. But she needs to be dragged back to the church, you'll see and she'll recover.

ex-cons seem to be the most adequate here and really aware of what the fuck is going on here. in general, this series reminded me of the SEC objects, specifically about this http://scpfoundation.net/scp-1266-ru

It was not easy to show this in the 1st episode of the guys who crashed in a car. Perhaps in this Afterlife they undergo tests in which it will be found out whether someone will survive or die without being awarded life. According to the words that were said in one of the interviews from the creators of the series, the ending will be open and lead to reflection. This means that the answers to most or a minority of questions will need to be thought out by yourself.

Oh, well, they twisted it, but still I'm waiting for some unexpected twist, and not one of those that come to mind :) and so you immediately remember fantasies about twin peaks and darkness :) great show so far

I had a picture of my dead sister in a funeral frame on the screensaver for the series all the time, and lilies are lying next to it. But this was not the case in the series. Is this a glitch, do I see the future 🤔😁 or did I miss a frame?

Why did the guy hang up the Ale, I wonder?What was his goal?

Everyone: discussing theories, sharing their assumptions, trying to figure out what and how ...
I: Lisa eats cucumber so appetising)0))

Yes, the series is good, it feels like something fresh, I've been waiting for this for a long time.

If you think the soundtracks are terrible, then you just don't have the taste :)

I thought Arina camgirl was moonlighting.
I like to watch the dynamics of Denis and Sonya's relationship.
For the second week, I have been tormented by the question of who made the site for them and accepts calls.

It's great, it's getting more and more addictive with each episode and I want to understand more and more what the hell is going on in the Swamps.
Visually, the series is generally just a delight.

After watching it, there is interest, but the weekly episode release format does not suit the series at all, in my opinion. And the details are lost and the right attitude is lost. It is better to wait for the release of all the remaining episodes.

I really liked Elya, I would like to know more about her, it's a pity that her character was leaked. And I also really like the soundtracks - the Aigel group perfectly fit into the gloomy atmosphere

Weirder and weirder, as Alice would say.
Everything is fine, but it would be better to release it as a netflix, in a piece.
The first episodes blew people's brains out, but now it's strained, my emotions have already calmed down in a week.

Попробую спрогнозировать концовку: явного ответа на вопрос, являются Топи аномальной зоной или чистилищем, мы не получим, выберется оттуда в нормальный мир живых только Денис, так как он единственный, кто хотел уехать, т.е. цеплялся за жизнь. Он очнётся в машине среди мертвых товарищей, потом спустя время поймёт, что его рак ушёл, а платой за исцеление стали души не ценящих свою жизнь людей, которых он туда привёз.

Я один флешбеки из «Dark” ловлю? Надеюсь Глуховской не скопирует идею

Мне одному Максим напоминает блогера Варламова?:D

Хотелось бы побольше пересечений - вот этого аналогового патриархального Предсмертия в борьбе с Цифровым Левиофаном (с телефонами героев). Чтобы как-то программа главного героя участвовала. Только лишь девочка с больной матерью отказалась фоткаться почему-то (видимо поистрепалась с 99-го) Был момент с телефоном на кладбище. Короче если смотреть через объектив камеры телефона-он покажет реальные ТОПИ и отличит мертвых от еще не определившихся живых - надо смотреть через телефон!!! True or False . И адский айфон превратиться в спасительный крест в этих Дантовских кругах ада. Ну как идейка?

@id317342497: а кто хозяин?

то есть никого не смутило, что у Арины на макбуке музыка играла, когда она танцевала у зеркала)))))

и кто этот мужик, который Элю нашёл?

Сериал просто охрененный. Давно не видел такой качественной мистики. Выглядит как сборник всех основных мистических шаблонов - тут вроде и заигрывания со временем есть, и намек на галлюцинации, и прямым текстом про посмертие, и злой лесной дух, и пузырь без выхода, и проживание петли... Но при этом сериал вообще ни разу не вторичен, смотрится очень захватывающе, а никакая теория так и не выглядит окончательной.

А может именно все теории и верны? Что, если тут сразу несколько аномалий замешано?

Кстати, мне все больше и больше кажется, что никакое это не посмертие. Не мог же сериал, который пытается быть загадочным и играет на полунамеках взять и вывалить интригу всего сюжета да еще и буквально прямым текстом.

Такую жесть на экране не часто увидишь. Хорошо, что не ночью смотрела её, страшно было ппц.

Есть идея, что мент отправился в монастырь, чтобы отмолить своего сына и сам за него «остался», возможно, он ехал с напарником, но напарник выжил и из Топей спасся, таким образом пропал. Короче, столько всего в голову приходит.
И им нужно очень сильно обосраться в финале, чтобы я поставила 4 звезды. Просто обалденно неожиданно от наших! Молодцы! Просто красавчики.

Пока, конечно, кажется, что они мертвы. Катя исчезла потому что выжила. Обратила внимание, в первых сериях, когда она остановила того мужика на грузовике с гробом, он ещё про неё сказал, что она единственная живая из них. Тогда бабулька это и есть Катя, которая умерла уже в старости. Водителя тоже почему не было, потому что он выжил. Единственное, пока не понятно, что за хозяин и как и зачем появилась Сонина сестра.

Просто хочу отметить отменную и чертовски правдоподобную игру всего актёрского состава
Очень приятный момент!

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серия понравилсь меньше, чем предыдущие. мало динамики. общение Макса с Ариной повтор из предыдущей серии не раскрывает их персонажей, не двигает сюжет

из динамичного: Лиза, живая и вредная, как противоположность Сони, эпизод, где Макс находит фото Арины в школе, беседа Макса с зеками.

Испытание для Эли отстой, можно хоть в мистическом сериале не смаковать будни маньяка.

Священник по ходу вешается каждый день, наказание у него такое. Вешать еще и и Элю фантазии не хватило у сценаристов.

Какое макабрическое зрелище - этот танец Арины (Лолиты/Маргариты) перед зеркалом!

Заметили, что тут постоянно делают акцент на воду? Они пьют воду постоянно, обливаются ею и т д. И ещё такое впечатление, что кроме огурцов (опять же состоят почти из одной воды), у них другой еды не существует.

Пай девочка Соня прям полная противоположность шлюшки Ленки из Трудных подростков

Опять деревня, опять чудеса чудесные какие то, зеки в лесу

В сериале много пасхалок, намеков, аллегорий. Свежий пример: когда Денис пытается молится, по левую сторону стоит сестра Лиза в черном и убеждает, что бога нет, по правую Соня, в светлом и просит верить - как по классике дьявол над левым плечом, ангел над правым.

На самом деле все запутанно! Все больше придерживаюсь версии,что они на самом деле все разбились ещё в начале! Но Катя выжила, потому что когда она привела водителя,чтобы он вытащил их машину он сказал: Берегите ее! Она из вас всех больше всего на живую похожа! Катя выжила,но забыла где она живёт(об этом нам и говорит старушка с жёлтым платком). С девушкой у которой мама пострадала от аварии на заводе тоже по всей видимости мертва( ей уже должно быть больше 30 лет).

@Chertanovskiy: и драка в воде, и женская рыжая голова из воды выглялывала, и Денис пьёт все время воду в деревне и в монастыре тоже...

Жаль что сериал не вышел целиком сразу, такое хочется смотреть залпом!

А что если возвращает и делает чудеса не Бог, а Хозяин?
Из-за чего все те, кто у него попросили будут в долгах или не смогут уйти тоже?

Очень хорошо.
Пока воздержусь от разбирательств.
Чувствуется Глуховский.

Аигел - существует.
Создатели Топей - пихают её треки везде где можно.

Кучерявый идет искать в дом, сначала во всеоружии с какой-то палкой, а потом просто читает книгу спиной ко входу, после чего просто уходит. Я уж не говорю о том чтобы предупредить кого-то перед тем как идти туда, взять кого-то с собой, рассказать хотя бы что он видел, когда возвращается домой. Очень умные и мотивированные герои (нет). Бредятина.

как же мне абсолютно неинтресна линия Сони. да и вообще эту героиню искренне считаю очень пресной что ли. девчуля красивая (и в каждом кадре мне напоминает Вику Синицину с такими же бездонно голубыми глазами), но на этом все.

хадрящий Денис в компании Сони наполняют на меня какую-то тоску и печаль. и это срочно нужно исправлять. когда-нибудь я дождусь тандем Дениса и Макса как это было в первых 2-х сериях забавно, бодро и с харизмой и химией героев, а пока имеем, что имеем.

очень понравился Макс в этой серии. увидел "платок" побежал спасать, узнал что-то побежал докапываться до правды (хотя я бы сначала к Арине сходила). и какой же Тихон классный, вот без шуток (очень боялась за Грома, но, видимо, зря такого "своего" парня подобрали).

милиционер вызывает только положительные эмоции. говорит все как есть и ещё и пытается оградить ребят от всей этой фигни, что творится.

п.сы вот смотришь сериал все так мрачно, депрессивно, жутко, а потом открываешь инсту Тихона или Вани, а там "'солнечная" фоточка, как они рассматривают жучка🤭

So this is an afterlife/purgatory for whom? For a specific area or city (funny)?

It's good that there is this application - check all your guesses with others, and it's easier to look further) it's twisted, of course, as much as possible, and I love this atmosphere of devastation of the past, semi-abandoned old cities..

As I understand it, Lisa can now only live within the confines of this monastery? Like the price of resurrection?

"Where is Angarsk anyway? That's some kind of ass, too, isn't it? Inside the afterlife.."

The very moment when he came from Angarsk hd

That awkward moment when you don't get into the game of some of the main characters. It is possible to trace the character of Katya, Sophia, and even Eli well. In the sense that their background is clear, as well as their actions based on this very background.

What is going on with the characters of Maxim and Danchik's characters is sometimes not entirely clear to me. It's like there's an even wagering going on, and then, out of the blue, BANG and you see some kind of game. As it was, for example, during the skirmish on the lake. Why was this scene necessary? To show that Maxim aka ebyr the terrorist is not empty in itself, but represents something? That he supposedly really cares about the lost girls and at the same time in some strange way protects their honor, trying to punch a sick Denis in the face? Denis's main motives are also a bit difficult to understand. Something can be attributed to a disease, something to very strange pills, but sometimes you sit and look at everything with a straight face. Is there some kind of game going on around and the best thing to do is to fold your paws and wait until the pain covers your head? If it was an attempt to get depressed from the hopelessness of the situation, then it was more like a game of a moody child. "I won't, because go on."

I certainly really liked the painting. The work of the film crew, the acting, and yes, the script from Glukhovsky is just on top. But these strange throw-ins (you can't call them anything else) are a little unsettling. The characters of the female characters are well sustained, you understand the causal relationship. But men's... It seems that some moments were filmed either to increase the timing, or to sluggishly prop up the plot in the right direction, or so that we simply do not forget that some characters still really exist in the narrative.

I feel God is not returning their dead relatives...
I feel sorry for Sonya, Denis too.

Where is Angarsk anyway? Is it also some kind of posthumous ass?
I, who live in Irkutsk: 🗿😂 well, in principle it is true

Why does Arina have such a fresh manicure😅

Here, under the previous episodes, everyone compared the series with Darkness, and for me, by episode 4, an analogy with American Horror Story suggests itself. They also like to show some fuckers where the dead live.

Damn reminiscent of the German "Dark"

I don't like red smoke, that's right, it doesn't look natural at all... The game is happening and there are more and more questions, nothing is clear with the sister, how she was returned and taken away again, it seems they have all been stuck in some place between for a long time.

Why am I watching this at night?

I thought Sonya would at least try to drag her sister back when she was already lying down, but no

"Fight" in the water 🙄😂😂😂😂👍

Why does Denis constantly touch his face in front of the mirror

It's not clear to me. If Arina is all sexy: naked in the garden, dancing in front of the mirror. What is it that turns a journalist off? Or maybe she's this mysterious master's favorite?

The red-haired girl surfaced in the lake?I wonder what that means..There are more and more questions ..

It is even more unclear

They are either all under something, or they still died in episode 1.
Do I understand correctly? Or even some kind of nonsense and just a favorite bed trip hahah

I don't know why everyone compares with darkness, for me it's so much closer to the swamps from the outside than darkness.

My first thought is to drag my sister back to the monastery.

I don't believe that Ale will die. Maybe someone will break in and save you? Can Max do it?