There was an interesting movement and for the first time they showed the death penalty of an innocent man for the murder of Chikatilo, as far as I know, there were several of them. The series is really hard from the psychological pressure it exerts.
By the way, for the first time I agreed with the local police that he was still worthy of the death penalty, even if not for the murder of Chikatilo, but for the one that he committed, even at the age of 17 - no difference
Of course, I am in favor of the death penalty, especially for such serious crimes. But! It is good that now in our country it is not! They would shoot everyone in a row, just to close cases and get bonuses. Heavy series. Kravchenko, on the one hand, is a pity, he was not shot for his crimes. But he was not a saint, although again, the Moscow sledak correctly said that he had served his sentence for his crimes. Chikatilo's daughter is smarter than her mother refused! I immediately realized that the girl is not lying and Dad is a pervert. I wonder how his children lived after all this nightmare. Someone read it? Do you have any information?
It seems that my wife and son changed their last name and moved to Kharkov, where my daughter lived. But the son is also dysfunctional there (which is not surprising), and he was in prison, which is why I don't remember exactly
@OlgaVodianna:The son, Yuri Miroshnichenko (until the age of 21 he bore the surname Chikatilo; then he bore the surname Odinchev) (born 1969) fought in Afghanistan in Kandahar, was wounded. Since October 1989, he worked at the VOHR plant in Novocherkassk. In the summer of 1990, he took part in the robbery of Vietnamese shuttles for 10 thousand dollars, for which he received 2 years of probation. In 1996, he returned to the Rostov region, where he was engaged in racketeering, for which he was sentenced by the Proletarian district court to two years in a penal colony. In 1998, four months after his release for recidivism (robbery of a friend — a service worth 850 rubles, a radio worth 500 rubles and a palace; theft of a bottle of vodka, a bottle of wine and cigarettes totaling 112 rubles), he was sentenced to six years in a high-security colony. After his release, he lived with his mother on the outskirts of Kharkov. In April 2009, he was arrested for attempted murder. In total, he served about 12 years. He does not believe that his father had 53 victims, believing that unsolved murders were pinned on him. He was married twice, and has a son from his first marriage.
It's creepy. My son went downhill altogether. Of course, both the children and the wife have broken destinies. Even if you work with psychologists later, you can't get rid of such horror. His wife also slept with him. It's horrible. And some psychologists in the 90s. There were only judicial ones, but who allowed them to the common people.
@OlgaVodianna: Well, not necessarily, they were sentenced to death and immediately killed the next day. You can do the same as in America, they are sentenced to death, so they wait a few more years for a date to be set, during this time you can appeal your accusation and a lawyer can defend innocence, well, or a change of sentence. After the date of the execution, years also pass before the sentence is carried out. So there is time for rechecking and so on.
So about the fact that they would shoot everyone in a row, it depends on how to organize all this, if humanly, and correctly, then they will not just close things like that.
It is very strange that the first episodes showed us the process of these vile murders, but here is an episode of his very first murder... somehow they lowered it. Why did he do it anyway, what served as this turning point and turned him from a pervert into a maniac rapist-murderer. After all, he could have killed earlier (the situation in the house with a prostitute, who was asking for it, calling him names and humiliating him, But no... he endured and let her live, although it would have been much more logical for him to kill her in a fit of resentment and anger, for example). And what went wrong with the girl? It's not clear.. what did she deserve to be not only raped, but also stabbed with a knife. The horror of course. And no less horror and bewilderment are caused, of course, by the cops. They're scum. Yeah, really...
"What she deserved." What kind of nonsense do you write, as if other victims deserved what they got. Are you trying to understand the logic of a maniac and their perverted desires? And he didn't touch the prostitute, because he was still afraid, it was obvious that he was struggling with himself, the remnants of humanity still spoke in him.
Don't cling to words like that. Of course, no one deserves this. I just want to understand at least a little why he was so locked up that when he reached that age he committed his first murder, and not before. The authors of the series go into some scenes unnecessarily deep, and some are completely skipped.
Well, realizing that you are facing a psychopath, it is not reasonable to tell him that he is a psychopath, you need to get out quickly, and not stand and mock him. Perhaps, by the way, this scene became a turning point... 🤷♀️
Well, nonsense again. And who said that the prostitute understood that he was a psychopath, an ordinary impotent loser, why should she be afraid of him?
Oh, well... a crappy love line has a typical crappy quarrel over nothing...so leave these heroes like that.... super psychologist: you don't like me, the girl turned me down, our relationship with her was ruined - I want to be suspended....and I want to go on a business trip with Ovsyannikova..Ugh on him..the little child is..I also hit my colleague..he may be a goat, but this is the behavior of a psychologist?? the investigators are complete freaks..and even if they are not freaks..what is it like to live later, knowing that the maniac was interrogated and released? I have never seen on Wikipedia about the same American serial killers. there were also precedents for the wives of maniacs - a separate sad story the performance of the actor-the head of the zone made a pleasant impression: you will be punished for not touching the prisoner with your FINGER (emphasis on this word) in the bath that the daughter of Chikatilo accused him - I do not believe..
@zula22: Why not believe it? if you were in such a situation? when you are told at school that your father groped another girl and was fired for it, would you blindly believe your father? just because you are relatives, a person cannot commit violence against someone? you are talking some nonsense about the phrase "I didn't touch it with my finger" there is no accent on the finger, it is a phraseology and there is no hidden meaning in it
@Jutys: Don't turn my words around. I don't believe her, because it's probably from the words of my daughter: "I accused him and stopped communicating with him." I have not seen such data in his biography. and what can you not say to justify yourself in the eyes of the public - how did I not know that your father is a monster. or maybe it was a condition that she or her children agreed to the film. is my thought clear? you wrote some nonsense. I understand perfectly well that a relative, a loved one, a neighbor, etc. may turn out to be a completely different person. about the phrase. I rewound a couple of times and the accent was. of course, phraseology, but then it was about sodomy. there's a double meaning here. is it clearer this way? you need to look more carefully and still think more, and not immediately rush to write "smart" comments.
@terpsixora666: Are you kidding? due to professional suitability at least. as a psychologist, he cannot control his own emotions and behavior, but at the same time help people cure psychological problems
It's a difficult series emotionally. Was it really the case that the daughter found out about the dismissal from school and broke off contacts with him? Or it's for a red word, as they say. Well, I'll just keep silent about the methods of investigation, the negligence is blatant. If everything really was a plus or minus, as we are shown, then even at the stage of the headmaster, such an abomination as Andrei Chikatilo could have been closed behind bars.
@BrandyAlexandr: It's frustrating that even cases like this don't teach people anything. that similar personalities still serve in state bodies (for the sake of an asterisk on shoulder straps), that they would prefer to be dismissed on their own rather than spoil the reputation of their institution
There are so many witnesses, so many people interacted with him, many communicated, crossed paths, and how creepy it is that no one had any idea that you were facing a maniac..
As for the film adaptation, the series was shot poorly, very poorly... starting from the actors' acting and ending with the storylines. The only thing that holds is that the series was filmed on real events and it's terrible. And so you can compare it with some kind of cargo. With each episode, you just want to finish watching it sooner and forget it...I repeat that it keeps watching only what is on real events ... It is not clear whether this is a thriller, or an investigative film, or a leisurely story about police everyday life.
Mr. Adreasyan decided to cram a cheap love line - in a series about a homicidal maniac, he crammed a family drama into the relationship between his daughter and father, left-wing people who did not exist in real life, wooden characters and dry boring dialogues into the bargain...Alas, it doesn't get better with each episode, but this dialogue between the prisoner and Kravchenko in the cell, what kind of wildness, was it really?
If I'm not mistaken, but when they make a movie / series based on real events, then there should be no unnecessary and fictional details, if they add something that did not happen in real life, then it is already considered a feature film / series!?
Then you need to make a documentary) therefore, the question sometimes arises, during the course of the series - was it so, or was it to enhance the plot
And why did Ovsyannikova look at her grief psychologist? Even from what she had overheard at the cinema, it could be understood that, on the contrary, he was not going to snoop around and use her location in order to obtain some internal information. In theory, on the contrary, I should have been happy and thought something like: "Wow, what an honest and correct dude got caught."
It would seem that it is possible to make this love line even worse than it is...
I don't know what chikatilo was like in real life, but if such a creep uncle walked the streets as Nagiyev portrayed him, then I think he would have been caught very quickly, it says I'm a maniac and I eat people right on his face. In my opinion, it overplays very much. No one would go anywhere with such a person on their own
@terpsixora666: I'm also looking at this Chicotilo, such a cringe. I want to run away from this, dropping my sneakers, in my face like I came out of a dope. And in this suit and in the hat in the pictures, he looks like an exhibitionist at all. And as with him, people, children who believe in beauty, went with him. I can't believe it. Apparently, he still possessed psychology and endeared himself to people, or played on their weaknesses (fishing rod, chewing gum, sympathy for pensioners). But really, how could he not be burned with such an appearance, he helped them all to look for himself.
@Kristina110205: The fact that his brother was eaten is known only from the words of Chikatilo himself. As far as I know, there is no confirmation of this.
I read that his parents told him that his brother ran away from home and was eaten, but Chikatilo said that his parents themselves ate him. Everything is as mentioned above, from his own words.
Why spam this inscription in every flashback scene FIVE YEARS EARLIER??? Well, you already wrote this at the beginning of the series, you have other characters in this timeline, the sled are dressed differently and look different, the locations are also different. Why the hell are you spamming this inscription in EVERY scene? Or did Andreasyan have Alzheimer's and just forgot to take notes for himself during the final installation? Well, you can't be so disrespectful to the audience.
@kvl-: and if there were not these notes, would you complain that you are confused about the time frame? As for me, it's convenient on the contrary. You don't need to strain yourself and understand exactly at what moment what happened
Actually, the series is a typical work of Sarik. There doesn't seem to be anything to get to, but it's as boring as possible. All the characters are very ordinary, why would I be interested in watching how they catch Chekatilo?
The most interesting character is Shein, who drove, who wanted to hijack a trolleybus. The actor plays well, well, and at least brings some variety with his screams
The scene with my daughter is so unnatural - it hurts my teeth! So he was such a maniac at home that his daughter immediately believed him? And the girl with a nervous breakdown was in the hospital?! Mdya...
Nagiyev, of course, is overplaying It is still not very clear what happens with time in some moments, it is difficult to catch the transition between before and now
The creators of the series, you should at least consult how the gun works!!! First, the clip is inserted, and then the cartridge is inserted into the chamber. You have shown the opposite. (The scene before the shooting). Because of such blunders, the overall impression of the series is formed.
Irina was so angry with Vitaly, although, in fact, he refused to find out information through their trusting relationship. To me, this series seemed more interesting, but the image of Chikatilo is just tin. Who would go anywhere with that? Everything in him screams that he is still a maniac
That's right, on the contrary, he refused 😹 I also did not understand this topic with insults ... it turned out stupid. She hadn't explained herself yet, as if he should have realized that she had decided to eavesdrop on him.…
They write that the names of the victims have been changed, but Elena Zakotnova is the real name of the victim. And this is not the first time this has happened in this series.
Heavy series. Kravchenko, on the one hand, is a pity, he was not shot for his crimes. But he was not a saint, although again, the Moscow sledak correctly said that he had served his sentence for his crimes.
Chikatilo's daughter is smarter than her mother refused! I immediately realized that the girl is not lying and Dad is a pervert. I wonder how his children lived after all this nightmare. Someone read it? Do you have any information?
So about the fact that they would shoot everyone in a row, it depends on how to organize all this, if humanly, and correctly, then they will not just close things like that.
And no less horror and bewilderment are caused, of course, by the cops. They're scum.
Yeah, really...
I just want to understand at least a little why he was so locked up that when he reached that age he committed his first murder, and not before.
The authors of the series go into some scenes unnecessarily deep, and some are completely skipped.
Well, realizing that you are facing a psychopath, it is not reasonable to tell him that he is a psychopath, you need to get out quickly, and not stand and mock him. Perhaps, by the way, this scene became a turning point... 🤷♀️
super psychologist: you don't like me, the girl turned me down, our relationship with her was ruined - I want to be suspended....and I want to go on a business trip with Ovsyannikova..Ugh on him..the little child is..I also hit my colleague..he may be a goat, but this is the behavior of a psychologist??
the investigators are complete freaks..and even if they are not freaks..what is it like to live later, knowing that the maniac was interrogated and released? I have never seen on Wikipedia about the same American serial killers. there were also precedents
for the wives of maniacs - a separate sad story
the performance of the actor-the head of the zone made a pleasant impression: you will be punished for not touching the prisoner with your FINGER (emphasis on this word) in the bath
that the daughter of Chikatilo accused him - I do not believe..
about the phrase "I didn't touch it with my finger" there is no accent on the finger, it is a phraseology and there is no hidden meaning in it
about the phrase. I rewound a couple of times and the accent was. of course, phraseology, but then it was about sodomy. there's a double meaning here. is it clearer this way?
you need to look more carefully and still think more, and not immediately rush to write "smart" comments.
Was it really the case that the daughter found out about the dismissal from school and broke off contacts with him? Or it's for a red word, as they say.
Well, I'll just keep silent about the methods of investigation, the negligence is blatant.
If everything really was a plus or minus, as we are shown, then even at the stage of the headmaster, such an abomination as Andrei Chikatilo could have been closed behind bars.
during a conversation between Chikatilo and the investigator
If I'm not mistaken, but when they make a movie / series based on real events, then there should be no unnecessary and fictional details, if they add something that did not happen in real life, then it is already considered a feature film / series!?
Which does not secure for him the status of "truthful" absolutely
P.S. I didn't mince)
It would seem that it is possible to make this love line even worse than it is...
Well, you already wrote this at the beginning of the series, you have other characters in this timeline, the sled are dressed differently and look different, the locations are also different.
Why the hell are you spamming this inscription in EVERY scene? Or did Andreasyan have Alzheimer's and just forgot to take notes for himself during the final installation?
Well, you can't be so disrespectful to the audience.
As for me, it's convenient on the contrary. You don't need to strain yourself and understand exactly at what moment what happened
The most interesting character is Shein, who drove, who wanted to hijack a trolleybus. The actor plays well, well, and at least brings some variety with his screams
It is still not very clear what happens with time in some moments, it is difficult to catch the transition between before and now