Well, that's a good ending. The thriller in the first half of the episode will turn out to be very good, and I feel very sorry for Prentice in the end. It's a good thing Glover survived! But the main plot was disappointing or something. That is, all in order to embarrass the British in front of their people and curtail the program? Tricky, but too fantastic. I didn't understand Dowerd's motivation from the word with everything. In general, the fact that the Russians are involved does not annoy me, in my opinion it is even funny, it turns out to be an interesting time slice. I'm happy for Amy and Kirsten, I would even watch a spin-off about them.
Each episode was board-packed, which was breathtaking. It was quieter in the final episode - even somehow unusual)) I was completely satisfied with the action in the first half, too.
As for the motives of all this mess ... as a viewer, you expect that there is almost a third World War, but in fact, dust in the eyes, "PR action" -> cancellation of the program. And all for the sake of it, my reaction was the same as Amy's)) But it didn't disappoint me... I think there's even something to it!
And Amy and Kirsten were also satisfied with the denouement. I'm glad they decided to try again, and now I want to believe that Amy will put the puzzle together and live happily. I would be glad to see a sequel in any format (a divine cast and well-written main characters - how can I not want to?), but even without this, the story ended in a good format.
Overall, the series is great, I recommended it to my friends and I continue to advise everyone.
+ Pleasant cast, expressive appearance emphasizes the individuality of the characters + The organic nature of the plot.Even with the help of the ubiquitous GRU, the creators managed to combine murder in an unusual setting, murder on land, mutual responsibility of the Navy, political games and counterintelligence activities into one story, while maintaining sufficient realism and not turning what is happening into near-fantasy trash.It was interesting to see how the series focuses on the various characters (suspects) and the components of the story.
Minuses:
- When the series stops intriguing with "conspiracy theories" and suspicion of the crew members, it no longer manages to maintain the achieved level of viewer interest in what is happening.The most exciting thing comes at the moment of realizing the presence of a hidden, mysterious threat on the ship, and in the finale, the tension noticeably subsides.
Overall, it turned out to be a high-quality, interesting detective story with a "British" atmosphere and an unusual location, which is separated from the maximum score by the absence of an unexpected plot twist at the end and the inability to keep in suspense until the very end of the story.
To all fans of the "gloomy" atmosphere, political intrigues, intelligence and the Russian threat - "Occupied" (Okkupert)
In my opinion, it turned out to be a weak detective story for the British. The main character's love line is all snot, and a completely separate element of the story. It could have been easily cut out, and the main storyline would not have lost anything. The main character herself is sometimes hysterical, inclined to adjust the facts to each clue she finds. What was her screams alone on the bridge worth?: "Don't shoot!" during the training alert. Even if it was a real combat alert, why did she decide that after barely opening her eyes and jumping off her bunk, she knew more and better what to do than the captain of a submarine?! It's embarrassing that she's considered one of the best detectives in her unit. The cook's topic has not been revealed: why did she climb to open this jar? Is it accidental or intentional? How did she manage to gas Burke? Why a civilian detective arrests someone from the military on a submarine for the murder of a military man is also not entirely clear to me.
Wow, what a sweet ending. Kristen almost pulled the cherished "I love you" out of Amy with a pair of tongs, and now she and Poppy and the cat can calmly retire into the sunset to build a future life together)) There are only six episodes, but you get very attached to the characters and it's sad to part with them. But this story is completely complete, all the lines are closed, so if there is a sequel, it will probably be with other characters.
It's not a good plan. Why did the Russians have to be in the right place at the right time? How many Russian spies do you need to open one can of gas? And other rhetorical questions. The atmosphere certainly redeems any mistakes, but it was really only in the first three episodes. I'm happy, but I expected more. And yes, the actors are almost all excellent and played well (especially the foreman and the partner on the ground).
I liked that the reason for the whole mess looks realistic. I was afraid of something in the spirit of "capturing a submarine." Although the motivation of Dowerd himself is not explained at all. And by the way, he took a lot of risks, and he also killed.
by the end, it was already a sideways detective line, the criminal was found, and that's fine, but these motives, meanings, and what's the difference, anyway, the Russians are to blame 😆 I was most worried about Amy and her relationship with Kristen, it's good that it ended like this, I'm very happy for them. It would be great to watch a spin-off about them and their life with Poppy)
Here, I must admit, the spy plot turned out to be not boring at all and not extremely boring. Although there are plenty of buns of different sizes, there has been a lot of writing. Well, it's a fair compliment to our GRUshniki, who, it turns out, understand the nuances of making military and political decisions in the kingdom and are able to come up with such a clever combination with the PR undermining of the Trident-based submarine program in Scotland. It is no less an anti-compliment that if such a number of our ships were pulled together (especially considering the power and abundance of our surface navy in general), then the attitude to this operation was extremely serious, and its key and rather complex stages had no backup and duplication.
I really liked the overall pace, the complex intrigue and the special atmosphere, especially in the first 3 episodes.
I just liked that my own people were shown to be liars and hypocrites.
Oddly enough, I didn't like Sarah Jones very much. She was noticeably overdoing it with feelings and drama, and with her inner anguish she got out of everyone else's playing style. I think it's not just the director's idea to emphasize her loneliness and some "alienness" in the specific naval staff of Her Majesty's submarine. However, she's like that in almost all TV shows.
And, in my opinion(!!) taste, there's a lot about the personal life of the main character. Even the traumatic experience and visions of a sinking car could have been shortened a little, and all these relationships, their memories)) and their explanations are often unnecessarily detailed, lengthy and numerous, in my opinion. At least for a tense detective-spy thriller. Let there be 5 episodes, but more genre-oriented.
The political line in the plot is cool, there are a lot of female characters, and it looks normal and appropriate, not like they're chasing an agenda. Why are the extreme Russians again? It's as if the world revolves only around America, Britain, China and Russia. It really pisses me off. Duard's motivation is not entirely clear. Was he only agreeing to this because of his narcissism? In my opinion, the romantic line is weak in terms of script and execution. If the heroines had been made good friends, it wouldn't have changed anything. And so it slipped in places, but understand where. Why did Kirsten demand a confession from Amy when she knew what she had been through? A person may not have fully come to terms with his grief yet.
@sailormofo: Yes, there is a clear line there about how everything is pushed onto the Russians. An American trough sank a trawler, and the press announced that the Russians were there. It can be said to be nonsense in the Western world. It's strange that the spies turned out to be Russian.
It's okay, the series is great. The only "but" is that it has long been a well-worn topic that the Russians are to blame. They mentioned the French, who also have nuclear weapons and are geographically close to each other - why not the French, for example? Wow. Otherwise, zero complaints
It's a good series, I liked it. The first half came out stronger, the investigation process is perfectly shown dynamically, without sagging (as it often happens), without stomping on the spot, and with a good output of bits of information that catches you. I liked the last two episodes less, because they went from a more or less mundane detective story to a bit of superheroics. They were discovered at the last moment, rescued at the last moment, the connection was cut off literally minutes before they were given the order to return to base, heroic self-sacrifice (I note that the viewer's perception of Prentice was turned around perfectly), a decontamination plan from improvised means on his knee, a comrade with a nervous breakdown who almost blew his brains out, He shows himself to be an excellent specialist, that's all. Individually it's fine, but when all together and for one and a half series it's too much. But the overall impression of the series is very good, it is well shot, pleasantly played, well staged, a beautiful picture and a rather masterful maintenance of tension. I watched it with pleasure. As for the evil Russians, such claims seem completely hypocritical to me when we hear from every iron about "Americans" with NATO troops pulling troops to our borders. These games can be played by the whole world, solving their own, purely internal problems. The general message that it was all a PR exercise is funny. So at the end, another cranberry was dumped to the press. Very vital.
@Морская: I agree on everything. But as for the fact that Americans are constantly enemies in Russia, while they are on the contrary, this is more a disadvantage of both sides than a reason to justify them, isn't it?
@whimsical_spirit: where do I justify it? Useless nonsense that all normal people have been sick of for a long time. But this is a given that should not interfere with the perception of an artistic work.
@Морская: I'm not saying that you're making excuses. I'm asking if you consider this a flaw and hypocrisy on both sides. But yes, it's already annoying, on both sides. I'm already sick of this mutual blame-shifting, not only from the United States and Russia, but also from others. No one admits that they themselves have a snout in the cannon. I'll ask you another question: Don't you sometimes want filmmakers to approach their villains more inventively and with more imagination? And they didn't just play the same game as the politicians. Because hearing the same thing from politicians and from movies/TV shows is already doubly exhausting.
@Khrustalev: Do you obviously not want your Russia to be affected here? The series is based on real events, you don't have to go far.... Take it and shoot it
@vk1133824: there was a one-season series there. I can't imagine what reason they would have to suck out of their fingers in order to stuff the same heroes back into the submarine.
The detective part of the series is not bad. But the personal life of the heroine and her friend is just hellishly long, boring and there is too much of it. And by the end, they were also drowned in syrup. And according to geopolitical ideas, the series has already become outdated, now it's ridiculous to talk about nuclear disarmament, of course)) The first 3 episodes of the series were held straight, by the end they were blown away
I liked the series, but I lower my rating for 1. Russian bad guys and 2. I'm tired of the fact that now all TV series include either a black-and-white or a gay couple, without fail, it's already annoying
It's a great series, except it's the main character's love story, but I don't need it. I personally don't mind the Russians: they literally made their Navy look like idiots who are unable to understand whether a submarine is chasing them or not.😂 Well, it was really funny to me how they ran away from the shadows in the first episodes)) I'm very sorry for the deceased character, it was cool to reveal him. Excellent cast.
It's a beautiful series, I watched it for Evans. It's a good detective story. Great tension scenes. The rest, from the extremely funny technical details to the allegory of the struggle of the entire enlightened tolerant world against the evil, insane Russians, has left the edge of stupidity and a template. And what are the views of the crew on the traitor, full of pictorial hatred from Soviet posters :)))
@shuey: In the penultimate season, "Death in Paradise" was made even funnier in one of the episodes.: there were evil Russian gay terrorists from the KGB))
@Flegmatichka: bgggggg))))))))))))))Bln, why can't our guys shoot like that)) For example: evil British gay terrorists attack a Russian submarine, force it to surface, risking starting a nuclear war in order to lower the ratings of the election campaign))
It turned out to be a good little series. Every episode was suspenseful. It was nice to see the actors I know) Lorne played it well. It was interesting to see what was happening on the submarine. I've never thought about how people get there, or how everything works there. Yes, probably, after being underwater for a long time, otherwise you look at the world on earth. Overall, a good series)
I really liked and captured the series! I didn't even expect it. The finale wasn't exactly disappointing, but rather showed how it was probably actually delivered "up there." I'm sorry for those who died suddenly, especially Prentice.
It turned out to be a great series, we are waiting for the second season, I hope it will be the same on the same level. They showed very well the absurdity of all the confrontations, that people are dying for the sake of fuck, you know what in fact
When you watch a whole series for the sake of the main couple, but in the end you stick to all the characters at once. I'm waiting for the second season tomorrow. :)
Russian Russians are bad again - well, first of all, in the series we see that the Russians are so cool that not a single device could detect a Russian submarine - cool! And secondly, it was clearly shown that everyone always blames the Russians, as it is happening in the world now, even if in fact it is the Americans who are to blame haha, as it is shown here, the joke is haha
I wonder how realistic it is then that their fleet is falling apart from old age and the high cost of upgrades?
In general, the series is average, with fairly predictable plot maneuvers. Plus these eternal stupid flashbacks, just to stretch the timing. And this love line is incomprehensible to what at all, so she loved the guy so much, was going to marry him, and now he died and she suffered so much that she immediately rushed to the pink ones, something like that. It's still not very realistic that, in fact, a civilian is running around and endlessly pestering the crew of a nuclear submarine, openly interfering with keeping watch in those difficult conditions, and she gets practically nothing from her superiors for this. In total by 3.5
Well, yes, well, yes. Our guys took a shit.and the bullshit is that the Americans were watching them, the bullshit is that they killed a trawler with people So, what the Russians wanted is that..So the Russians didn't know that the Americans were on Vigil's tail? Did the GRU officer not remove the witness to the murder of that activist? Didn't you erase all the photos? Didn't you search them all? Really? I'm watching the series for the second time to understand and in no way what kind of insidious plan did we have that collapsed so easily? was it necessary for the boat to surface in the territorial boats? and what..Why would we destroy it in public? to prove that British submarines are funny? so the cook could put everyone there, sacrifice herself for her son, and that's it. Minus the submarine, it's a scandal. Ugh, in short. if the Russians are in charge in the second season, then I'll stop watching...Are you ashamed? Blame it on the Russians..I'm sick of it
Discussion: Season 1, Episode 6 Join the Discussion
59But the main plot was disappointing or something. That is, all in order to embarrass the British in front of their people and curtail the program? Tricky, but too fantastic.
I didn't understand Dowerd's motivation from the word with everything.
In general, the fact that the Russians are involved does not annoy me, in my opinion it is even funny, it turns out to be an interesting time slice.
I'm happy for Amy and Kirsten, I would even watch a spin-off about them.
As for the motives of all this mess ... as a viewer, you expect that there is almost a third World War, but in fact, dust in the eyes, "PR action" -> cancellation of the program. And all for the sake of it, my reaction was the same as Amy's)) But it didn't disappoint me... I think there's even something to it!
And Amy and Kirsten were also satisfied with the denouement. I'm glad they decided to try again, and now I want to believe that Amy will put the puzzle together and live happily. I would be glad to see a sequel in any format (a divine cast and well-written main characters - how can I not want to?), but even without this, the story ended in a good format.
Overall, the series is great, I recommended it to my friends and I continue to advise everyone.
+ Pleasant cast, expressive appearance emphasizes the individuality of the characters
+ The organic nature of the plot.Even with the help of the ubiquitous GRU, the creators managed to combine murder in an unusual setting, murder on land, mutual responsibility of the Navy, political games and counterintelligence activities into one story, while maintaining sufficient realism and not turning what is happening into near-fantasy trash.It was interesting to see how the series focuses on the various characters (suspects) and the components of the story.
Minuses:
- When the series stops intriguing with "conspiracy theories" and suspicion of the crew members, it no longer manages to maintain the achieved level of viewer interest in what is happening.The most exciting thing comes at the moment of realizing the presence of a hidden, mysterious threat on the ship, and in the finale, the tension noticeably subsides.
To all fans of the "gloomy" atmosphere, political intrigues, intelligence and the Russian threat - "Occupied" (Okkupert)
The main character's love line is all snot, and a completely separate element of the story. It could have been easily cut out, and the main storyline would not have lost anything.
The main character herself is sometimes hysterical, inclined to adjust the facts to each clue she finds. What was her screams alone on the bridge worth?: "Don't shoot!" during the training alert. Even if it was a real combat alert, why did she decide that after barely opening her eyes and jumping off her bunk, she knew more and better what to do than the captain of a submarine?!
It's embarrassing that she's considered one of the best detectives in her unit.
The cook's topic has not been revealed: why did she climb to open this jar? Is it accidental or intentional? How did she manage to gas Burke?
Why a civilian detective arrests someone from the military on a submarine for the murder of a military man is also not entirely clear to me.
There are only six episodes, but you get very attached to the characters and it's sad to part with them. But this story is completely complete, all the lines are closed, so if there is a sequel, it will probably be with other characters.
Tell Dowerd that he did it for the money, and that would be more logical, but it doesn't make sense.
Four people got killed after all.
By the way, it's funny that the acoustics only heard Amy when she started tapping Morse code with a flashlight.
Well, it's nice that Amy and Kristen are doing well!
The atmosphere certainly redeems any mistakes, but it was really only in the first three episodes.
I'm happy, but I expected more.
And yes, the actors are almost all excellent and played well (especially the foreman and the partner on the ground).
Although the motivation of Dowerd himself is not explained at all. And by the way, he took a lot of risks, and he also killed.
I was most worried about Amy and her relationship with Kristen, it's good that it ended like this, I'm very happy for them. It would be great to watch a spin-off about them and their life with Poppy)
Well, it's a fair compliment to our GRUshniki, who, it turns out, understand the nuances of making military and political decisions in the kingdom and are able to come up with such a clever combination with the PR undermining of the Trident-based submarine program in Scotland.
It is no less an anti-compliment that if such a number of our ships were pulled together (especially considering the power and abundance of our surface navy in general), then the attitude to this operation was extremely serious, and its key and rather complex stages had no backup and duplication.
I really liked the overall pace, the complex intrigue and the special atmosphere, especially in the first 3 episodes.
I just liked that my own people were shown to be liars and hypocrites.
Oddly enough, I didn't like Sarah Jones very much. She was noticeably overdoing it with feelings and drama, and with her inner anguish she got out of everyone else's playing style.
I think it's not just the director's idea to emphasize her loneliness and some "alienness" in the specific naval staff of Her Majesty's submarine.
However, she's like that in almost all TV shows.
And, in my opinion(!!) taste, there's a lot about the personal life of the main character.
Even the traumatic experience and visions of a sinking car could have been shortened a little, and all these relationships, their memories)) and their explanations are often unnecessarily detailed, lengthy and numerous, in my opinion. At least for a tense detective-spy thriller.
Let there be 5 episodes, but more genre-oriented.
Why are the extreme Russians again? It's as if the world revolves only around America, Britain, China and Russia. It really pisses me off. Duard's motivation is not entirely clear. Was he only agreeing to this because of his narcissism?
In my opinion, the romantic line is weak in terms of script and execution. If the heroines had been made good friends, it wouldn't have changed anything. And so it slipped in places, but understand where. Why did Kirsten demand a confession from Amy when she knew what she had been through? A person may not have fully come to terms with his grief yet.
Otherwise, zero complaints
As for the evil Russians, such claims seem completely hypocritical to me when we hear from every iron about "Americans" with NATO troops pulling troops to our borders. These games can be played by the whole world, solving their own, purely internal problems. The general message that it was all a PR exercise is funny. So at the end, another cranberry was dumped to the press. Very vital.
I'll ask you another question: Don't you sometimes want filmmakers to approach their villains more inventively and with more imagination? And they didn't just play the same game as the politicians. Because hearing the same thing from politicians and from movies/TV shows is already doubly exhausting.
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/drama/vigil-season-2-renewed-newsupdate/
I think why is the series hanging on me like it's not finished, it turns out there will be a second season.
And according to geopolitical ideas, the series has already become outdated, now it's ridiculous to talk about nuclear disarmament, of course))
The first 3 episodes of the series were held straight, by the end they were blown away
Every episode was suspenseful.
It was nice to see the actors I know)
Lorne played it well.
It was interesting to see what was happening on the submarine. I've never thought about how people get there, or how everything works there.
Yes, probably, after being underwater for a long time, otherwise you look at the world on earth.
Overall, a good series)
I'm sorry for those who died suddenly, especially Prentice.
I wonder how realistic it is then that their fleet is falling apart from old age and the high cost of upgrades?
In general, the series is average, with fairly predictable plot maneuvers. Plus these eternal stupid flashbacks, just to stretch the timing. And this love line is incomprehensible to what at all, so she loved the guy so much, was going to marry him, and now he died and she suffered so much that she immediately rushed to the pink ones, something like that. It's still not very realistic that, in fact, a civilian is running around and endlessly pestering the crew of a nuclear submarine, openly interfering with keeping watch in those difficult conditions, and she gets practically nothing from her superiors for this. In total by 3.5
So, what the Russians wanted is that..So the Russians didn't know that the Americans were on Vigil's tail? Did the GRU officer not remove the witness to the murder of that activist? Didn't you erase all the photos? Didn't you search them all? Really? I'm watching the series for the second time to understand and in no
way what kind of insidious plan did we have that collapsed so easily? was it necessary for the boat to surface in the territorial boats? and what..Why would we destroy it in public? to prove that British submarines are funny? so the cook could put everyone there, sacrifice herself for her son, and that's it. Minus the submarine, it's a scandal.
Ugh, in short.
if the Russians are in charge in the second season, then I'll stop watching...Are you ashamed? Blame it on the Russians..I'm sick of it