Hername

30 Sep 2021, 10:09 #

Who was bored - so the traffic arrived. I think that the killer, as always, will be either a child from a foster family or someone who experienced violence in childhood, and apparently with some kind of mental defects, because little men like those from chestnut trees, an adequate adult would not do. I don't know how to stop watching

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CrusaderDen

30 Sep 2021, 12:30 #

@hername: Hardly a child. Because at the beginning they showed a mass murder in 87m.

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Hername

30 Sep 2021, 13:06 #

@CrusaderDen: I mean, an adult was already a child from a foster family, it's clear that not a small one)

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CrusaderDen

30 Sep 2021, 14:47 #

@Hername: aaa.. in this regard, yes. It looks like that

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alenkoy_shelkova

03 Oct 2021, 01:35 #

@Hername: there was also such a thought, I thought about the girl from the very beginning of the series. Although judging by the way the murder of the 2nd woman was shown, the killer is a strong man, rather a man

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-p-s-y-c-h-e-

10 Oct 2021, 16:37 #

@alenkoy_shelkova: if you remember the mass murder at the beginning of the first episode, then there was a surviving boy in the bathroom

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id264460076

02 Nov 2021, 22:25 #

There was also a girl in the basement

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CottonMartlet

22 Jan 2022, 12:50 #

The girl must be Tulin.

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fevra

31 Oct 2021, 22:57 #

@Hername: and he also clearly works for the police. he found out too quickly where the safe house was

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gulliverfoil

05 Nov 2021, 00:03 #

I followed the movement of the victim, and in the dialogue the hut sounded like a removable one by Madame herself

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AnginKa

08 Nov 2021, 21:27 #

the cavalier of the main character was suspicious

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Painio

PRO

30 Sep 2021, 17:38 #

I'm just sure that Detective Naya Tulin will soon become the target of the killer, about a couple of episodes before the end, an anonymous warning will come to her. And Rosa Hartung is that girl who survived the massacre.

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ermigurt17

16 Oct 2021, 22:06 #

@Painio: It makes perfect sense. But that would be too easy. I'm more interested in whether the killer's face was shown to us or is it really anonymous?

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id264460076

02 Nov 2021, 22:25 #

About Rose exactly the same thought I have

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Camille4816

20 Mar 2023, 03:00 #

Then why didn't she react to the story about the little men and say that she had already met such a thing... it's strange somehow

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Dori_Grey

PRO

12 Apr 2023, 00:54 #

@Painio: Well, yes, it's not for nothing that they focus on the girl's attachment to the man, whom the detective usually expels before dark.

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kubrikrubrik

30 Sep 2021, 22:17 #

The assistant minister is very muddy. Maybe he's a murderer.

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alenkoy_shelkova

03 Oct 2021, 01:36 #

@kubrikrubrik: I think he's just in love with her.

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peppershtein

03 Oct 2021, 15:11 #

I thought about him too. But that would be too easy.

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СтасХрамцов

06 Dec 2021, 17:04 #

@kubrikrubrik: I think so too. But maybe he just has that type.

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kittokodomo

01 Oct 2021, 20:20 #

but it was absolutely necessary to take them to hell in the middle of nowhere, wasn't it? to a quiet place, so that there would be no obstacles for the maniac at all. Any hotel with security is so dangerous, isn't it ?

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phenomenyaa

04 Oct 2021, 12:34 #

The hotel is easy to figure out , he understood the setup

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SemperAdMeliora

PRO

03 Oct 2021, 02:45 #

It moves well. I really liked the scene in the basement. now it's clear how the killer chooses his victims.

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the_player

05 Oct 2021, 20:45 #

@RinaDasler: it sucks to choose somehow, considering that men were to blame in both cases (in the second, the mother could cover, okay, but with men, everything is fine).

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SemperAdMeliora

PRO

06 Oct 2021, 03:09 #

@the_player: well, his foster mother did not help him, but on the contrary, she filmed all sorts of perversions on camera. That's what got him hooked. It's typical for all serial killers to blame women for everything because of problems with their mother or the 1st woman in their lives.

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sugar_

10 Oct 2021, 17:58 #

@the_player: it's the men's fault, yes, but anger at mothers happens in such cases, because mothers can know what violence is happening, but do nothing about it, either ignore it, or simply do not believe their children when they are not afraid and tell. well, it turns out "she did nothing, did not protect the child, so she is guilty and deserves punishment"

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SemperAdMeliora

PRO

10 Oct 2021, 23:47 #

@maria_kennedy: and it's easier for a healthy man to kill women than men. It is very rare for maniacs to kill men, the victims are always women - she looks like her mother, has a short skirt, looked at him the wrong way, and anything can be thought up to justify her violence.

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magicflower

30 Nov 2021, 02:21 #

@SemperAdMeliora: I didn't really understand who the foster mother didn't help and filmed? If it was Magnus, then where was it that the mother even knew about the violence? or who are we talking about or are these spoilers?

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SemperAdMeliora

PRO

30 Nov 2021, 04:26 #

@magicflower: These are spoilers - everything will be revealed in the last episode!

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magicflower

01 Dec 2021, 04:24 #

@SemperAdMeliora: please delete or edit the comment, it does not apply to the third series : (

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magicflower

01 Dec 2021, 04:25 #

@SemperAdMeliora: please delete or edit the comment, it does not apply to the third series : (

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SemperAdMeliora

PRO

01 Dec 2021, 05:13 #

@magicflower: I can't because such a function is not provided. It would be nice if you could edit your messages, otherwise I keep typing up...

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ksenia2020

12 Jan 00:45 #

why spoiler the series, are you even adequate? here is a discussion of the third series, please discuss it. Delete the comments, there is such a function like

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Dori_Grey

PRO

12 Jan 01:04 #

@ksenia2020: you would have yelled at a person 10 years later🤣
He can't delete comments anyway. Write to the admins, they can, as far as I know)

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the_player

05 Oct 2021, 20:34 #

Something I have flashbacks to the bridge, at least for the first season. A similar format of events and relationships (I don't want to list them, they won't throw spoilers).

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id440426744

14 Dec 2021, 19:15 #

Show comment

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FairyDream

06 Oct 2021, 00:37 #

Damn, a harsh investigator aunt who is not capable of a personal life is such a cliche of these "noir" series that it is already boring.
The assistant minister seems kind of muddy. He is too sympathetic and always looms in the background.

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ermigurt17

16 Oct 2021, 22:08 #

@FairyDream: initially I thought that he was the one who extinguishes everyone, but since '86?
Shipko is young...

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ya_navalena

18 Oct 2021, 13:58 #

The oldest one turns out to be grandfather , but he has never been shown

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ermigurt17

18 Oct 2021, 16:58 #

@ya_navalena: It's cooler further, just watch 👻

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id440426744

14 Dec 2021, 19:10 #

@ermigurt17: he could have been a child at that time. He looks especially crazy, maybe he's been crazy since childhood

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E770

10 Oct 2021, 13:43 #

It seems to me that the killer will soon file a complaint against the main character...

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sugar_

10 Oct 2021, 17:54 #

damn, it's so stupid, to send all the police officers to the apartment of a potential victim, and send her herself to the wilderness with only two, some kind of stupid negligence

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Sethius

18 Oct 2021, 22:47 #

@maria_kennedy: Why would a murderer take such a risk and kill a man under guard? Batman damn it. He could have just waited until the police stopped guarding her.

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iamaaanb

16 Oct 2021, 21:31 #

I have suspicions about the assistant minister. It's too muddy and somehow attention is often focused on it

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id51710070

03 Feb 2022, 12:45 #

@iamaaanb: and it seems to me that more attention is paid to Gentz. They have one for all of them, and a criminologist, and an IT specialist, and a master of laboratory affairs. I think it should be different people. Besides, since he works for the police, he has access to all the case materials, if it is necessary to fabricate something, then it is easier for him, as well as to find out where the alleged victim was taken.
And he's also about the right age for the role of a kid whose sister was raped. He has grown up now and wets unborn mothers, who are either kosyachny themselves, or turn a blind eye to violence, although they should protect

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iamaaanb

16 Oct 2021, 21:36 #

The main character, the investigator, is also not particularly fused with the mother's mission, so it is likely that she will also become the target of the killer

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id440426744

14 Dec 2021, 19:13 #

@iamaaanb: but it seems to me that an anonymous letter will be sent to Rosa. The situation with the son is wildly sad, as if both the mother and the father do not care about the boy

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DAN_DIN

11 Aug 2022, 15:23 #

Well, there are no ideal mothers in principle.
Gg if he quits his job and is with his daughter 24/7, it's also like that. Who will feed then. Paying bills is a double-edged sword.
She tries her best and does what she does best.
But yeah, as always, mothers are to blame for everything…

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id264460076

02 Nov 2021, 22:28 #

I like Hess more and more with each episode

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Lava_recommends

06 Nov 2021, 07:20 #

in addition to all of the above, I also thought that there was a good story about the investigator's parents, they said something had happened, but so far it was sooo casual when she and Hess discussed a retired cop who helps her and her daughter

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Lava_recommends

10 Nov 2021, 01:53 #

*muddy

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shitfan

02 Dec 2021, 12:04 #

@hard_candddy: Perhaps the surviving girl is Tulin, not Rosa..

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tamano1083

14 Nov 2021, 13:38 #

It feels like Tulin is the girl from the basement at the beginning of the series, they just said that she doesn't have any parents, i.e. she must have a brother who was found in the bathroom. Maybe he's a murderer 🤔

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Тётя_с_чайником

24 Nov 2021, 17:22 #

You should be fired for this…

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tatrati

PRO

24 Nov 2021, 19:04 #

It is, of course, strange that Kristina was never found, but after this show, it seems that she is not alive after all

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id440426744

14 Dec 2021, 19:09 #

Damn, here's one drawback of Scandinavian TV series - some particularly nasty sex scenes

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bucket_man

PRO

20 Dec 2021, 00:10 #

Hess is gorgeous

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ramzy

01 Jan 2022, 18:50 #

Yeah, logic. To cheat on his wife and blame it not on himself, but on his mistress. And the killer doesn't do anything for these children except anonymous, and as soon as the woman starts acting on her own, he kills her.

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MarthaZolanski

23 Jan 2022, 05:34 #

So, it's all clear, but I remember Tulin asked the car to punch the number. For some reason, I can't get it out of my head. They never explained what kind of car was there.

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ksenia2020

12 Jan 00:49 #

I understood it was the car of my stepfather, who ended up in the basement and then ran away. And when the detective found out whose car it was, she went to check if everything was OK

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nastya_shastina

31 Jan 2022, 18:30 #

Some kind of murky boyfriend of the main character, a detective, was too obsessively interested in her daughter. I'm afraid she might get her little brown man because of that, too. And I also don't understand the moment how they figured out exactly the one out of a thousand anonymous ones, somehow too far-fetched

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vctrkzkvch

09 Feb 2022, 00:59 #

I hope Sebastian has nothing to do with all the murders, otherwise his question is 'where is your daughter?' it sounded extremely doubtful, with such a suspicious intonation, and then their parting in raised tones, uh

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fairyfoxxy

17 Feb 2022, 10:58 #

How disgusting Kristina's parents treat their son, as if he were an empty place. This is also actually your child.

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17-12_is_5

22 Mar 2022, 23:25 #

The killer is a security guard who works for Rosa.
He and Varick have to stick their noses into cop business and, along the way, he has views on Rose (or a tooth - that would be a normal turn), so it was a thrill to arrange a leak to the press in order to quarrel with her husband / destroy her career / otherwise.. In short, 100% he has some murky motives. For me, he is still a prime suspect.

And Hess also lied about his wife. There's something there, too, but the hut didn't catch fire.. Well, let's see.)

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nickarctic

07 Apr 2022, 00:46 #

We ate pizza

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Nooooo99

14 May 2022, 00:01 #

Yeah, it's not such a good idea to send a possible victim into the wilderness with a two-person guard.
The investigator is also not an ideal mother, and apparently, she is already being watched.
An interesting version here was about the boy from the first murder. It seems to me that there is only one killer and everything points to this, probably has connections with the police and the media.

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reolter

06 Jun 2022, 16:29 #

Please remind me, is there any connection at the moment with the episode in the first series, about how a policeman entered the house and was killed there?

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reolter

06 Jun 2022, 16:35 #

This series gave me some kind of boost. Now the police know and understand that this is not some fanatic, and that he was not afraid of the presence of the police in the case, and went to the end. The motive, of course, is peculiar. And logically, then there should be a connection with his childhood. I hope that they will sum up the finale beautifully, and not in the last episode they will find a brother of the third tribe of my mother's family, who just wanted to make a chestnut man out of a human man.
I understand that the killer is someone from the house that was shown to us in the first episode, because there were also these little men, and children who had quite managed to grow up to psychopathic killers

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Ryaboshuk

21 Sep 2022, 12:03 #

Хотелось бы больше динамики в сюжете

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dramaqveenn

PRO

12 Oct 2022, 17:05 #

Логика покинула чат: выходить из дома в глуши, когда потенциально за тобой охотится убийца. Да и охранник тот еще балбес, сигналка сработала и он сразу выбежал…

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Saint_Sinner

26 Oct 2022, 16:42 #

Какая-то поразительно идиотская спецоперация, и это притом, что личность следующей жертвы была вычислена каким-то совершенно невероятным образом. Реалистичность происходящего стремительно снижается( Может, в книге это было как-то более логично обставлено..

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Linke_S

PRO

22 Jan 2023, 13:19 #

Трахнуть девицу в подвале, а потом дать ей пощёчину и крикнуть "Это было в последний раз! Я вообще-то женат!" Какая сознательность!

Тоже подумала, нахрена увозить охраняемого человека так далеко в глушь? Уж спрятали б в квартире какой-то съемной, где за ней было бы такое же наблюдение как за Туллин.

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diana_d

07 Feb 2023, 13:11 #

Всегда так забавно наблюдать как по новостям рассказывают детали дела, которое еще не расследовали

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arialex

11 Sep 2023, 16:33 #

Как-то смазали момент с тем, как они вышли на след новой жертвы(( В книге этот процесс был более длительный и описан, соответственно, более детально. Там Тулин и Хесс запросили письма за последние полгода, в которых фигурируют девушки определенного возраста и в которых требуется изъятие детей из семьи, а затем искали схожие по стилю написания. Когда оба отобрали по несколько штук, Хесс предположил, что убийца скорее всего мог намеренно изменить стиль, чтобы сбить их со следа. Тогда их выбор пал на письмо с миллионом орфографических ошибок, которые, очевидно, были сделаны специально.
Почему в сериале нельзя было обосновать выбор схожим образом? Выбрали по сути ничем не примечательное письмо, ткнув пальцев в небо

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Duration:	52 min.
Released:	29.09.2021^{29.09.2021 15:00}
Watched by:	15 698^69.26%

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