I don't think that Helly will die, I think they will have time to save her
PiRanha
06 Jan 22:35 # Show original
@Felix_Play: Hayley alone is ready to die.. And the second one? The elevator and the next episode will show))
Destiny_Ocean
04 Mar 2022, 10:34 # Show original
That's the ending of the series, of course!! The company really looks like some kind of crazy cult... But I think that "outie" Halle had a reason to come to work, maybe it had something to do with the woman who was before her. I also hope that she will be saved.
I think Mark's behavior is much more intelligent in this case. To pretend that everything is fine, but to collect information + it seems to me that he has redrawn the map (I would like to believe it).
Their boss was able to get that chip, will she find out that Mark and Petey were communicating? Who's calling Pete's phone from a hidden number? Why did Christopher Walken lie about the number of employees in his department?
+ Irving is gay after all)
DeadDanny
05 Mar 2022, 20:02 # Show original
@Destiny_Ocean: I think Mark destroyed the wrong photo. Perhaps he kept one of the 3 spare ones in his pockets. In the frame with the destruction, we were shown exactly the side with the photo, and not the side with the map. True, the side with the map was pointed at Hallie, but she might not have time to see it.
dieluise
22 Jul 2022, 01:33 # Show original
@DeadDanny: Then Helly would have seen that he hadn't destroyed the map... daah
Kudryashka
05 Mar 2022, 21:28 # Show original
Yeah, Irving is gay and not only him)))I think the boss will find out that Pete and Mark talked!But she's also kind of muddy, to be honest, neither two nor one and a half, is conducting her own investigation
alianapp
16 Apr 14:24 # Show original
@Destiny_Ocean: In such a situation, I would not hope that she would be saved, because she does not want to live in hell.
Tracktor
04 Mar 2022, 22:15 # Show original
Enter Sandman at the funeral it's powerful!
heimdallr
14 Jun 2022, 17:42 # Show original
@Tracktor: Good idea, by the way. I need to write something like this to myself, for example, Seek & Destroy))
SilverТIger_7
04 Mar 2022, 22:59 # Show original
Helly is stupidly held hostage by her extras, that poor thing, I feel sorry for her. She won't even be allowed to die now, I think
MilanaWalters
05 Mar 2022, 06:58 # Show original
I don't understand how you can hate yourself so much to do this to the other half of yourself, as it were.
bucket_man
PRO
27 Mar 2022, 14:39 # Show original
@MilanaWalters: I think extras are being misled and manipulated. remember how Milchek bred extra Helly when she came in and out through the door. and when Mark "kind of" got sick," Milchek told his extra that intra would be upset, and intra that extra was super sorry that he missed the day. Although it was a lie. They deceive both versions, as if each is satisfied with everything
ChrisRedfield
04 Jan 2023, 13:59 # Show original
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onelove
PRO
02 Apr 2023, 02:28 # Show original
Official on tv+ :)
Ярикшек
11 Aug 18:08 # Show original
@MilanaWalters: or extra got a job there specifically to reveal them and it's not profitable for her to quit.
taljamalikova
29 Mar 2022, 12:27 # Show original
@SilverTIger_7: Maybe Extra has some problems and needs money... She was talking pretty tough to herself. You never know what her circumstances are.
SurAlex
PRO
02 May 2022, 02:01 # Show original
I'm human, you're not. Black Mirror. White Christmas.
oniXtacie
30 Oct 2023, 23:45 # Show original
@SilverTIger_7: I thought it was some kind of deepfake video they made
fucking_trueman
04 Mar 2022, 23:35 # Show original
The ending made me feel uncomfortable, to be honest. It's a great series.
Mr_Knight
PRO
05 Mar 2022, 08:10 # Show original
One thing confuses me - they have such a controlling boss, monitors their work, punishes them for any jamb, but cameras and wiretapping practically do not exist. There is nothing in Mark's house, to which there are KEYS. They just look out the window. Again, it was possible to attach GPS to the car or something similar. The office where everyone works is empty. There are cameras, but... are they ignored? No one knows about the book, the card on the back of the photo, or their conversations. But where the bosses are already present, of course, there are cameras with sound. It's brilliant. I think if it was really involved, then it would have surfaced in the plot, but so... I'm just used to it being always done in all sorts of "blind spots" and encrypted.
But this is just the only minor flaw. So the series is just great, 4 episodes per evening. I was interested in the synopsis, but I did not expect that I would like it so much. Hayley... just 11/10, I love such fighting girls. He goes ahead, no matter how many times he fails, he is not one of those who will fold their paws and just go with the flow.
Kudryashka
05 Mar 2022, 21:31 # Show original
So there are keys to the house, why cameras, if you can come and see everything, I understand that their goals are simply different in this company
kingforthesirens
07 Mar 2022, 10:15 # Show original
@Mr_Knight: maybe the control is not so strong because the company is sure that everything works 100% for them. Or they just watch this experiment and where it will lead.
uorgew
08 Mar 2022, 01:37 # Show original
@Mr_Knight: apparently, their goal is not control.
Hitman95
09 Mar 2022, 00:12 # Show original
@Mr_Knight: maybe some cameras are fake and are only needed for a sense of control
bucket_man
PRO
27 Mar 2022, 14:43 # Show original
@Mr_Knight: I think the company is really 100% sure that reintegration is impossible. This was confirmed several times in scenes with the boss, where she urged them to check, but they refused. Plus, Mark is probably not being watched by the company, but this is the personal initiative of the boss. Why is just a mystery.
oniXtacie
30 Oct 2023, 23:46 # Show original
@bucket_man: maybe she is somehow to blame for the accident with his wife
nastyyoo
16 Dec 2022, 23:24 # Show original
I still don't really understand why, for example, with all their technology - they couldn't track Pitti's phone? By the same GPS. And why didn't Mark think to turn it off?) it lies, vibrates in the box))
vk883937
10 Jan 2023, 00:09 # Show original
They may not know about the phone. In addition, all espionage is not yet handled by the company, but exclusively by the boss
Kudryashka
05 Mar 2022, 21:24 # Show original
Each episode gets cooler and cooler!The series is gaining momentum!Halle had serious problems with herself, apparently, from the beginning, probably that's why she decided on this separation, her extra is always so calm, cold and sustained on video, and this Halle is a rebel, probably got in the way))Mark, of course, is a cunning strategist!I did everything right with the photo, I'm sure there is a spare card) the end is fire!I expected such an act from Hallie, since extra doesn't want to be reckoned with, then she won't be reckoned with either!It would have been unexpected if she hadn't been saved!such a plot twist would be more unpredictable and interesting, I think it would greatly push Mark to take more decisive action!
kingforthesirens
07 Mar 2022, 10:14 # Show original
That's what I expected from Helly, though, once before. The girl is stubborn, but it is not very clear why she went to work there at all and agreed to the separation. Perhaps this is really some kind of strong internal conflict, but separation cannot get rid of it. I'm waiting for the next episode.
belotooth
16 Mar 2022, 22:38 # Show original
@kingforthesirens: I think she has something to do with those hackers who helped Pitti disable the chip, and she was specifically embedded in this organization.
plastilin10
01 Aug 2023, 02:24 # Show original
@belotooth: I have the same thoughts! Maybe Helly understood that she could handle everything that would happen to her inside the corporation, so she went to the division, and there she collects information for someone, well, or makes a noise)
oniXtacie
30 Oct 2023, 23:48 # Show original
@belotooth: What a good theory! This explains why her outie spoke harshly and wouldn't let her quit.
LizaReshikova
09 Mar 2022, 16:25 # Show original
I'm thrilled I haven't been waiting for new episodes like this for a long time
Злая_белка
14 Mar 2022, 23:39 # Show original
Of course it's creepy!
Зеленый_Чудищ
PRO
20 Mar 2022, 19:08 # Show original
A couple more references to religion. The creator of the company "forbade depicting his creation in miniature" (as in Islam), and the "manual" is like their holy book, according to which "one should live" (the Bible).
Elves
02 Aug 2022, 11:10 # Show original
@GREEN_CHUDISHCH: well, actually, the Koran does not say about the prohibition of images, but in the Bible they are prohibited in direct text: "May you have no other gods before Me. Do not make for yourself an idol or any image of what is in heaven above, and what is on the earth below, and what is in the water below the earth; do not worship them or serve them..." The second commandment.
ChrisRedfield
04 Jan 2023, 14:03 # Show original
@Elves: It is forbidden to make an image to worship him, not an image as such.
hemulek
16 Feb 22:16 #
Там вся идеология сильно напоминает мормонов и саентологов.
byplayz
03 Apr 2022, 10:15 # Show original
I look, I can't stop ... very much yet …
NTXT
10 Apr 2022, 05:50 # Show original
A cool surprise with a loop for extra Halle, because the transition seems to be during an elevator ride.
hosh
18 Apr 2022, 15:58 # Show original
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brytannia
20 Apr 2022, 21:38 # Show original
It seems to have always been the opposite, if two people of the opposite sex are in the frame, then a love line immediately appears. Of course, you are not homophobic, but there is a suspicion that you would not protest if a love line appeared between Mark and Hayley. That's different, right?
kunjfly
23 Apr 2022, 00:14 # Show original
@hosh: Was there an official confirmation?
crazybee
05 Jul 2022, 22:54 # Show original
@kunjfly: if you don't have your eyes, then official confirmation won't help))
kunjfly
13 Nov 2023, 13:51 # Show original
@crazybee: Do you judge by yourself?)
Капитан_Сосулька
13 May 2022, 16:15 # Show original
@hosh: yes, why, there are a lot of movies and TV series with classic male friendship. Recalling the creation of the same Stiller, "The Incredible Life of Walter Mitty," there was such a brother in the protagonist by the end of the film.
imisteria
PRO
08 Jun 2022, 12:17 # Show original
Or "Brokeback Mountain"
cherik-cherik
05 Jun 2022, 23:24 # Show original
@hosh: yes, you've already got it, where do you find these series, where every first one is gay and lesbian? where are they? why should I seek them out like gold diggers in the sand, and for homophobes this is 99% of the time? For how many years I've been watching queer movies, I've only seen a love line between two elderly people in Sinners. if you don't like it — watch "Voronin" and "capercaillie"
Falleny
10 Oct 2023, 05:09 # Show original
@cherik-cherik: Christopher Walken is gay, it's so cute with:
ogoltelo
30 Apr 2022, 01:25 # Show original
I didn't understand why they brought a candle from Mark's house to a conversation with an Asian woman? Did you want to find out if there would be associations from the life of the extra version? And it seems that they did, since he was making a tree near which he first saw Pitti)
ogoltelo
05 May 2022, 00:39 # Show original
@ogoltelo: damn) when reviewing it, it came to me that this tree is more likely related to my wife, there was a ribbon on it. There is no need to mark the Pitti tree with a ribbon.
NoAngel
05 Apr 2023, 17:56 # Show original
@ogoltelo: I understand that this is the tree that caused the car accident that killed Mark's wife. At the end of the episode, he was crying at him..
driveshaft
04 May 2022, 09:22 # Show original
I can't believe that Extra Helly is so cruel. But on the other hand, she doesn't know anything about what's going on inside. She goes to work in the morning, got into the elevator, came out tired a second later, it's already evening. I didn't seem to do anything, but the money is dripping.
malinkami
05 May 2022, 21:48 # Show original
The Breaking Room is just like Umbridge's punishment))
abyssinian
14 May 2022, 23:53 # Show original
It is strange that the boss herself, with a drill at the ready, extracted the chip. Is there no security service in this kind of organization? So that modest people in suits can quietly, quickly and accurately do everything still in the morgue?
sadykh
06 Jun 2022, 21:33 # Show original
@abyssinian: I think she wanted to do everything quietly so that her superiors wouldn't know
Insania
06 Sep 2023, 12:45 # Show original
@abyssinian: Above her are even more senior people who even negotiate with her briefly, harshly and to the point, through an intermediary. The same top clearly obscures the side effects of the "separation" and for sure, under their strict guidance, it was decided to cremate Petey's body without extracting and examining the chip, which is why she decided to take up this work on her own
cherik-cherik
06 Jun 2022, 00:05 # Show original
against the background of the music in the screensaver, sounds are heard, as if the phone is vibrating
an interesting detail
imisteria
PRO
08 Jun 2022, 12:15 # Show original
Helly is the only character I like. I hope it won't be removed so quickly, it won't be the same without it.
crazybee
05 Jul 2022, 22:55 # Show original
Turturro and Walken are beautiful))) I'm worried about them
Carrie
11 Aug 2022, 22:57 # Show original
And what did Irving see outside the door? I didn't really understand where these people came from... Is this all the design department? And are they being hidden? What? 🤨
Aspen_Snow
12 Aug 2022, 19:00 # Show original
"Well, boss, now I have to tell you to go to hell, but you're already here" - Mark at this moment, as if he was trying to swallow a micro smile.
Tereshka
28 Aug 2022, 02:43 # Show original
I'm wondering, there are so many people there, they work on schedule, but he's always alone in the locker room in the morning when he leaves work too.
Капитан_Сосулька
28 Aug 2022, 17:39 # Show original
@Tereshka: there seemed to be some mention that their arrival and departure times were slightly shifted relative to each other, just so that they did not overlap.
Вискорка
05 Apr 2023, 13:19 # Show original
@Captain_Icicle: That's right. But then why do they calmly allow one or the other to stay at work? First, Mark stayed to sort out the photos. Then his colleague decided to read the book. But this means that at the exit there is a risk that employees will cross paths with each other. Why doesn't the company stop it?
oniXtacie
30 Oct 2023, 23:50 # Show original
@Viskorka: they probably stop at the level of the guard at the elevator, he won't let you into the locker room while someone is there
Lenushka_nik
PRO
22 Sep 2022, 18:32 # Show original
My heart rejoices when you hear Metallica in the next modern TV series, they often began to be used.
Slimov
03 Dec 2022, 16:25 # Show original
Right now, I would like to put such harsh ultimatums to the person who controls your body 8 hours a day, I immediately thought that if the threat to your fingers did not help, there is an option to just get drunk than wallow in this hell without stopping, and it came to this. What the original Helly thought is generally unclear, even if she has some hidden meanings, some people are unlikely to be able to explain this stupidity.
mivavi
04 Dec 2022, 17:45 # Show original
A great allusion to society and religion. IMHO, of course, but here the parallels from and to are just very striking. Even the hostility between the departments is nothing more than a split within any denomination. No wonder Walken's character says that he is guided by the first edition of the manual. In general, now in this series I see the world of people in miniature, where their god is Cyrus, and religion is a corporation around his name.
ninon92
PRO
07 Dec 2022, 01:00 # Show original
Dylan somehow overreacts aggressively to the optics and design department, so sincerely believes that they gutted people once. What a cruel extra Haley is to her innie. It's just an attitude not as towards myself, but as towards something hateful. I wonder why Bert hides the true number of employees in his department.
Mrs_Spock
16 Dec 2022, 20:24 #
Не понимаю, они действительно не уследили за книгой или они хотели, чтобы Марк ее прочитал? Почему никто ее не хватился? В любом случае очень круто, но смущает отсутствие какого-либо нормального видеонаблюдения, как будто они все видят, но позволяют этому происходить, хотя лифты у них с какой-то неземной технологией детекции. Может, конечно, у них не было никогда такой мощного сопротивления, как у Хелли. Или буквально религия запрещает.
nastyyoo
16 Dec 2022, 23:19 #
Мне кажется, что Ирвинг в реальной жизни - художник. Уж очень питает слабость к искусству
opel
24 Jan 2023, 00:05 #
Первая реально крутая серия, без оговорок. Всё же 45 минут удобоваримее тут смотрятся, чем 57
РоманЗавидовский
25 Jan 2023, 23:01 #
Явно намёк на секту. Есть запись мудрых изречений пророков и кодекс нерушимых правил. Вся прочая литература по запретом. Искреннее покаяние в случае прегрешения, молитва с описанием лучшей жизни, в которую можно только верить. Вся жизнь - служение.
blackmindead
08 Mar 2023, 20:48 #
У меня ещё с первой серии были мысли, что Хелли внедренный агент, по тому как они разговаривали с Милчеком. Но вряд ли он тоже в этом замешан.
Персонаж Хелли очень нравится тем, что постоянно предпринимает попытки выбраться и нарушить статус кво, даже и посредством суицида 🖤
TatianaBlunt
16 Mar 2023, 00:06 #
Концовка наглядно показывает что делает ненависть к самой себе. Было бы интересно если бы ее спасли, и она продолжила работать потому что у неё какая-то своя цель
nellyjelly
02 Apr 2023, 18:38 #
когда обращаются к Марку, то мне так и хочется вставить " Oh hi Mark"
BuHT16K20
10 Jul 2023, 22:12 #
Сериал пока что великолепный)) 4 серии пролетели незаметно, зацепив с первых минут. Операторская работа просто невероятна! Все эти проецирования кадра по центру, как у кубрика, сама архитектура здания и кабинетов. И какие тут персонажи) В Хелли влюбляешься с самого начала. Но хочется добавить несколько ложек меда. Пока что все идет очень неспешно, и тайны практически не раскрываются, что бесит, ибо не хочется получить очередное 1899 или Мир дикого запада и прочие такие, где даже в конце сезона нам ничего толком не объяснят, оставив задел на другие сезоны. И поведение персонажей некоторых просто порой логике не поддается. Даже Хелли. Когда ты твердо решила, что не хочешь тут работать, почему позволяешь себя пытать произношением одной и той же фразы??? что за бред? Серьезно. Пошли его да и все. Пусть сам читает этот бред. Ты же увольняться собираешься. Сиди у входа и жди каждый день новой смены. Я хз. Нож канцелярский возьми чтобы к тебе близко не подходили. Или Марк. Понятно что его рабочая версия какой-то подхалим и тряпка. Но начальница тебе в голову кружку кидает и ты ничего не сделал? Типа подумаешь. Капец какое-то поведение очень странное. Не бывает так. И таких примеров еще есть у меня. Просто даже если их рабочие версии сделали смиреннее и покорнее, дак убрали бы вообще у них любое бунтарство. Я понимаю, что тут скорее всего люди даже не работают, а просто больше походит на эксперимент по контролю и оболваниванию населения, много таких примеров в современности. Но все равно. Оч. странно)) Но в целом, повторюсь, великолепно!!! Держу кулачки за Хелли)
P.S. Патриссия Аркет играет такую мразоту, что хочется уже после первой серии ее придушить)) надеюсь она закончит очень плохо
fiery_matsu
PRO
13 Nov 2023, 00:37 #
Вот это концовочка конечно😅👀
Nomber
30 Nov 2023, 23:36 #
Какое же глупое допущение с этой книгой получилось, как Милкович и Женщина могли просто тупо оставить книгу в той комнате, я буду разочарован, если они это сделали не специально!!!! книгу ведь специально положили Экстро Марко под дверь как подарок, что если у него про него спросят? ну как бы можно это спихнуть на то, что у него якобы воры её украли, ну какое-то глупое допущение.
Ответ Экстра Хелен, конечно, поразил, нет слов.
Nomber
30 Nov 2023, 23:38 #
то что они так в открытую взяли книгу и читают - тоже подозрительно, также странно, почему за ними не следят так пристально, или нам специально этого не показывают, почему нет камер банально в той комнате или в этой и тд
YanaSergienko
01 Jan 17:24 #
Уххх, грубо
MORV
28 Jan 15:25 #
Вероятно у Марка фотографическая память, поэтому карта в его голове осталась
Simon__di
29 May 13:00 # Show original
How disgusting is this Kobel/Selvig. Milchik seems like a kick-ass hypocrite.
I think Mark's behavior is much more intelligent in this case. To pretend that everything is fine, but to collect information + it seems to me that he has redrawn the map (I would like to believe it).
Their boss was able to get that chip, will she find out that Mark and Petey were communicating? Who's calling Pete's phone from a hidden number? Why did Christopher Walken lie about the number of employees in his department?
+ Irving is gay after all)
She won't even be allowed to die now, I think
But this is just the only minor flaw. So the series is just great, 4 episodes per evening. I was interested in the synopsis, but I did not expect that I would like it so much. Hayley... just 11/10, I love such fighting girls. He goes ahead, no matter how many times he fails, he is not one of those who will fold their paws and just go with the flow.
In addition, all espionage is not yet handled by the company, but exclusively by the boss
I'm waiting for the next episode.
I haven't been waiting for new episodes like this for a long time
Is there no security service in this kind of organization? So that modest people in suits can quietly, quickly and accurately do everything still in the morgue?
an interesting detail
What the original Helly thought is generally unclear, even if she has some hidden meanings, some people are unlikely to be able to explain this stupidity.
What a cruel extra Haley is to her innie. It's just an attitude not as towards myself, but as towards something hateful.
I wonder why Bert hides the true number of employees in his department.
Персонаж Хелли очень нравится тем, что постоянно предпринимает попытки выбраться и нарушить статус кво, даже и посредством суицида 🖤
Операторская работа просто невероятна! Все эти проецирования кадра по центру, как у кубрика, сама архитектура здания и кабинетов. И какие тут персонажи) В Хелли влюбляешься с самого начала.
Но хочется добавить несколько ложек меда. Пока что все идет очень неспешно, и тайны практически не раскрываются, что бесит, ибо не хочется получить очередное 1899 или Мир дикого запада и прочие такие, где даже в конце сезона нам ничего толком не объяснят, оставив задел на другие сезоны.
И поведение персонажей некоторых просто порой логике не поддается.
Даже Хелли. Когда ты твердо решила, что не хочешь тут работать, почему позволяешь себя пытать произношением одной и той же фразы??? что за бред? Серьезно. Пошли его да и все. Пусть сам читает этот бред. Ты же увольняться собираешься. Сиди у входа и жди каждый день новой смены. Я хз. Нож канцелярский возьми чтобы к тебе близко не подходили.
Или Марк. Понятно что его рабочая версия какой-то подхалим и тряпка. Но начальница тебе в голову кружку кидает и ты ничего не сделал? Типа подумаешь. Капец какое-то поведение очень странное. Не бывает так.
И таких примеров еще есть у меня.
Просто даже если их рабочие версии сделали смиреннее и покорнее, дак убрали бы вообще у них любое бунтарство.
Я понимаю, что тут скорее всего люди даже не работают, а просто больше походит на эксперимент по контролю и оболваниванию населения, много таких примеров в современности. Но все равно. Оч. странно))
Но в целом, повторюсь, великолепно!!! Держу кулачки за Хелли)
P.S. Патриссия Аркет играет такую мразоту, что хочется уже после первой серии ее придушить)) надеюсь она закончит очень плохо
Ответ Экстра Хелен, конечно, поразил, нет слов.