Great series. I also thought that my wife was killed by monsters, but what he and his son had to go through was just terrible.. The family of gg (who is no longer such a gg, since there are many heroes) also had a hard time. I'm very glad that Ellis and Boyd talked to each other. And yet, where is Victor?
But imagine if she was right and to get out of the city you have to ”just” die 🗿 I can't help thinking about the bracelet, which somehow turned out to be in the belongings of former residents of the city. At first I thought that there was a cycle (type they came to the city lived a life - died - came to the city again) But the bracelet was lost even before arriving in the city, so I don't have any theories at all
@daizydaria: I was also thinking about some kind of reincarnation or purgatory. But the bracelet is from the material world , as it were .. strange.. I would like to get at least some answers, otherwise the creators can drag it out for a long time, plus develop teleportation with the help of trees...
@donapex: if this is some kind of otherworldly world, and not an abnormal place in ours, then there is nothing strange about the appearance of things from the characters' past
@daizydaria: kmk, here we need to think in the direction of the farway tree and other things with teleportation. They are an important part of the ent, this is how people get into the city - they pass through some kind of portal, then this looped road, a portal tree (and not one, according to Victor), the smiles themselves somehow spawn in the forest. And an endless supply of peaches, goats and chickens that appeared out of nowhere. It seems to me that these are just links in the same chain, and portals are the answer to half of the questions.
The question does not leave me - why did they not enter that hollow, it is in fact like an open window, and they enter the windows.. or is it because of the large number of talismans inside the tree 🧐
@May_catherine: at the moment where did the sheriff end up there? So in the hollow there were these very amulets-totems, actually he found them and brought them to the city, there were a lot of them there. I generally think there may still be useful things in other such repositories.
Well, yes, amulets, it's clear about them that they protect.) earlier, someone wrote the theory that amulets protect only if everything is inextricably closed, like a circle of chalk or salt.. But the hollow did not close like a house, apparently the branches really served as a "door/window". So there are a few questions here))
@May_catherine: it was not a hollow, but something like a dolmen or a stone shelter. Let's assume that there is no door as such, but there is a threshold that, for example, can close the circle conditionally inextricably. Well, plus, yes, branches could in theory also serve as a "door". That's how everything in houses is also very conditionally "inseparable".
An insanely good series, I've already thought about everything so many times, but after this series I don't want to speculate anymore, I'm sure they'll slowly reveal everything to us and show us how they already do it in principle. 🙂✨ The only thing I want to say is that even very strong-minded people give up, and we need to be a little more attentive in our lives to ourselves and our loved ones in order to help, understand and support when it is needed. 💔
As usual, I have a thousand questions. How many days did Boyd and his wife stay there that she went nuts? Why doesn't Victor tell everyone about these holes in the trees?Where did this Victor go anyway? How long has this place been in existence? Why do Donna and Boyd have a bad relationship? How long has Boyd been there anyway? And how often do the "new ones" come? Oh, it's confusing. I hope they will start giving us answers this season..
@yulianna_ps: It's pretty obvious with Donna and Boyd: both have character, both are leaders, and they clearly had different views. For a reason, Boyd had a city under his patronage, and Donna had a colony with a different worldview. But they obviously respect each other.
How long Boyd and his wife were in town before her cuckoo went, it doesn't matter at all. Not so long, but not a day either. It is clear from the context there that some time has passed. How many Boyds are in the city at all, it seems to have been voiced somewhere in the first episodes. I don't remember, but for sure it was more than a year (Fatima appeared a year ago and she didn't know Alice's mother), but less than three (Donna said she had been here for three years).
Victor didn't talk to anyone much. She immediately told the boy about the trees: no one would believe it. That is, he already had the experience of storytelling)
In general, some of your questions have already been answered or are easily understandable, but no one will answer some of them right away. Like, how long has this place been around?
And yes, Victor told the boy that the trees were "approaching " the city, something like that. I walked and measured the distance, like. What does it mean? The forest is getting closer to the city...
@yulianna_ps: As far as I remember, he said that the trees were moving, not getting closer. Perhaps the city is a static middle ground, and the rest of the world, as it were, "scrolls" around it, so it turns out that the road to the city (and the forest along with it) "combines" with other roads from different places.
Well, or the city is really a pocket in another dimension, to which our world sometimes "connects". And at night, accordingly, another world is "connected", in which the pale and hungry live) And because of the inaccuracy of the "connection", the trees are shifting.
@ONG: Well, by the way, we know that the road is looped at night anyway, from Donna's story - she and her sister drove through when it was already dark. Although, maybe they came from their own world in the afternoon.
@TIC_TAC: Those bastards, people say! The characters reveal!
It seems that it was clear from the first episode that this was not about action and pee-pee. And still, under each episode, up to the last one, there will be those who complain about this.
@forgotten_tale: And who's talking about action? All complaints about the low quality of the screenwriters' work. The dialogue is different, they are quite primitive here, introduced to stretch the timing and apparently also because of the poorly thought-out serial world. There would be no complaints about the series under each episode if the dialogues did not interfere with the plot, but complemented it and if the characters were revealed through actions, and not just through simple dialogues.
@forgotten_tale: dialogues for revealing characters are good, but dialogues for retelling what would be nice to show are not very good. Fortunately, there is no such thing in this series, but others are full of it.
I wonder, from Victor's memories, he was small and families lived in the city, and then these "ghosts" killed everyone That is, theoretically, before that ill-fated day, everyone lived normally in the city. But then where did these amulets come from? Victor was left alone in the city, but he could not make amulets, because then he would have used them successfully and would have shared his knowledge with others. Then who did it?
And in fact, I consider the series a godsend of this year. Very atmospheric and intriguing. It even becomes scary that he will be shut down in mid-sentence, as it often happens
Guys, please tell me! If someone is watching on Kinopoisk, are new episodes not coming out? I'm just in another country and I'm watching via VPN, I haven't had a new episode for about a week, and not only this series. Is it the same in Russia?
@Fillipka: it's already May, and still only 5 episodes have been posted on kinopoisk. I continued to look on the Internet, I didn't find the Novamedia voiceover, but Alexfilm is very similar, I didn't notice the difference at all.
@roman_belyaev: What were they supposed to do? They were running for cover. But the woman is a Marine. What do you think a person can do in principle with a sudden massshooting? Are all those who don't escape stupid?
The walkie-talkie is utter nonsense, what are they going to say if they manage to contact the rest of the world? Well, they'll think it's a prank and won't talk to them
@Mint Marzipan: Um, well, they tried to fix their family for over a year before they decided to divorce. Well, apparently, in those circumstances, they didn't really fix it.
@ermigurt17: He was angry primarily because his father ignored his words the morning before he got lost in the woods. He said, "don't go into the woods yet, you're too busy with the affairs of the city here, and you don't notice that something is very wrong with Maman."
@a1499902: the millionaire dude, who at the beginning of the series thought that all this was a quest that his friend arranged) of course, he is still a moral freak, but the most prominent among all the others and all the humor is based on him, so everyone likes him.
It's great that they showed the sheriff's backstory! However, after her, it feels like some kind of serial youth... Infantile. At first, Julie ran away (OK, she was angry at her parents, but what was her brother's fault?). Now it turns out that Alice was angry at his father because his mother had gone off the rails. In fact, it's unlikely that Boyd could have done anything. It wasn't support that was needed here, but a psychiatrist. And in the end, really, Alice never once thought about his offense, what was it like for his father?
@forgotten_tale: Alice saw that Mom was getting sick and tried to draw her father's attention to it. He asked him to stop collecting chickens and goats at least for a short time, and helped. Dad said, "Mom's a Marine, and you're aggravating." and he disappeared for 2 days. Which was the final trigger for Abby.
And there is also a feeling that Sarah's voices are not "for" people, but "against" them. If the boy had been killed, his father would have been crushed and would never have built a tower and tried with the radio. Jade, of course, started it... but in fact, he merged and did not remember about the radio anymore. There is a lot of fuss, little exhaust. But the boy's father will clearly bring the idea from the radio to the end.
@forgotten_tale: Well, then they would have ordered the father to be killed, not the son. Why do I need a multi-pass? moreover, the son is clearly capable
It seems to me that the mother already had PTSD and in isolation it only developed. It was lucky that Boyd returned on time. With the amulets, he somehow quickly believed, although for whatever reason the smiles did not come in. And it is unknown whether they tried to test it by applying the same drawings to other places or using stones from the cave.
In general, it was a kick-ass before finding the amulets, it's creepy to hear these screams all night.
Does anyone have any theories as to why smiles look like that? An old man in a captain's uniform, a bride, etc. It is clear that they must look like ordinary people in order to gain the trust of the victims, but some outfits are not everyday, so to speak, maybe each of them also has some kind of past and does it matter?
I wonder if the power of these charms is in the symbols? you could try to put them on the walls of the house just with paint, just in case, in every room on all the walls - why not. And it was possible to test the theory on that dude from the box - draw these signs and see if it would work when they are just hung on pieces of paper and walls, and not on stones, if it survives, it means it works.
When Michael, oh, I mean Boyd, was running after the dog through the woods, I almost caught the lost flashbacks. There was also similar music.
It is clear that the father and son had a fight after the death of the mother. But I thought the monsters ate her, but then it turns out he was so tough. Oh. I remembered, by the way. A couple of episodes ago, the priest said, they say, what difference does it make whether we are alive or in purgatory, we still need to get out. I thought at the time that there was a difference. In purgatory, you don't have to be afraid to die. It won't get any worse anyway, but at least you'll move on somewhere. Apparently, Abby had similar thoughts.
About that hole and the talismans. It's reckless to just grab these stones with symbols. What if they worked in these places? What if it's not about them at all, but about the walls? A lot of nuances.
The characters seem to be quite adequate, they can communicate with words through their mouths. But often, at the will of the screenwriter, they do shit. So Jade came running to ask something possibly important, and Jim freaked out and swore at him, as if he was to blame for what happened to Julie. And again, he didn't even ask what he wanted, he started talking about the signal and the tower. And of course, it is Jim's requirement that must be fulfilled in the first place.
@Allons_y: it's a pity the series was ruined by the stupidest dialogues and inappropriate behavior of the characters. In general, the plot is not bad. But the implementation is mediocre (
I couldn't watch the rest of the episode, because I was overwhelmed with emotions, I decided to immediately write a comment and continue: how annoying is the father of this family "leave off with questions, don't approach my daughter" and the mother who interrupts the daughter's story and does not allow her son to tell the information. Stupid just, aaaaa🤬 sit means further in this place! And don't try to find out! Everyone is in shock, not only your daughter, she didn't experience anything like that, she didn't even see monsters, she didn't see someone being torn up, compared to others, she climbed out of the window and climbed into the hollow - that's it!
And what happened to the common house that they can't go back and live there the next day?
It seems that the monsters did not break the windows, the resident himself let one of the monsters in, and she already let everyone else in. The doors seem to be intact too. Everyone who managed to escape from the people fled at night. Well, the monsters probably scattered with the passage of the morning, too.
@Koralain: Yeah, and the family was moved into the house of a newly murdered family (the girl and her mother), they didn't even wipe off the blood. I think we've come to the conclusion that it's safer to live separately in small groups than as a commune.
@SashaMozg: I think it's because they don't have a megacity, but some kind of village where there aren't so many houses that you can choose which one you like best.
Such a strong vibe Lost was in the woods with Boyd, and the music, and leees himself) A very sad story about his wife and how she tried to "wake everyone up". 😔
"Are you and Dad getting divorced?((("FUCK, YOU'RE IN A CITY WHERE MONSTERS ARE EATING YOU AT NIGHT! What are you talking about? Are you sick? There are MONSTERS there, what a divorce
Jim (the father of the family) and Jade (an IT businessman) are two kind of psychopaths. We ran to Donna, who is collecting corpses, and instead of helping, without asking how she is, let's help. Heavens, the idea can just be postponed for a day, Donna may not be able to listen, help, and then you will get help, but no, their idea is more important (well, the screenwriters think so, yes. Kmk, if I were Donna, I would just tell them to go to hell). Both the residents of the cottage and the city also somehow abandoned Donna - she will figure it out, she will collect the remains herself, she will bury them. Some kind of m*quality festival. It feels like only the sheriff and an assistant, a priest, Donna and a doctor, a cook take care of the community (city + cottage). The rest are like extras/consumers/herd. It's really interesting what the rest of the city is doing. There are not enough doctors - the doctor will die, and there will be no more help, you need to finish training. The sheriff is gone - an assistant assistant is needed to train the replacement. Sarah disappeared from the cafe - she needs a replacement as a cook's assistant. In general, what do the rest of the people do (not the cottage, there was its own atmosphere), so as not to go crazy from the lack of activity / change of scenery / Internet all days?
I hate the Deputy Sheriff, isn't he even interested in what it is and how to get out of there? In a good way, they need to hold daily meetings where they will discuss who knows what, what was unusual, etc. And brainstorm all available information.
— Don't touch my daughter, asshole, and I don't give a shit about your books. — But there are symbols and Victor's photo... — And they don't give a shit. By the way, the radio is working, we need to go higher. — Oh, Donna, are we going to build a tower on your roof?
— I have 14 people who died. Build whatever you want. — High!
Of course, it's a shock how my wife died. I had one cliched question "why wasn't there a dude who would heroically stop her?", would have jumped from behind, knocked the gun out of her hands with a stone, would have tried to calm her down with conversations. But then I remembered that the cliched dude was Boyd and he was in the woods. And the rest of the residents of the town are senseless extras. Of course, all the series also have extras, but here it is clearly so useless that you are just surprised. We have already written about this in the comments above. Even of the main characters, no one is particularly revealed to us. They said a little bit about Victor, the priest told his backstory and that's about Boyd. That's all. And about the rest, it's just "this engineer, this one built a multimillion-dollar company, this one didn't finish her studies as a doctor." Well, Kamon. There are two episodes left until the end of the season, who should I empathize with?
A mother and her daughter are very annoying - they are in such a nightmare, but for some reason they continue to whine and whine because of some everyday problems that no longer matter, they would survive here.
It's a little unclear to me why Victor wasn't in the flashbacks. I think the series about him will be the most interesting.
It was very cool to come up with the death of the Sheriff's wife, I thought there was a banal murder by monsters, but it turned out to be very interesting. But I don't understand a little how they bought into it so easily that you can't leave the city, it seems to me that anyone will still try to do a couple of laps, well, or they decided to just leave it behind the scenes.
They have such a nightmare going on, and gg's daughter is taking care of her parents' divorce… Has everyone forgotten about Victor? Where did he go? It's a very heavy burden for the sheriff... what a horror he had to go through... it's a pity that his son couldn't support him, he was alone with his pain all the way... and only now everything has improved somehow. I really like the way the events of the series unfold, the dynamics of everything!
The scene of the sheriff talking to his son in the woods is good. I was a little worried when the sheriff's son saw the killer girl coming out of the cabin, because he was afraid that he would start drowning for the murder/trial of the girl. But in the end, he accepted everything, which fits very well into a story in which his mother died, and even at the hands of his father, who did not pay attention to them. In short, the sheriff's son is doing well, his head is boiling.
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133They are an important part of the ent, this is how people get into the city - they pass through some kind of portal, then this looped road, a portal tree (and not one, according to Victor), the smiles themselves somehow spawn in the forest. And an endless supply of peaches, goats and chickens that appeared out of nowhere.
It seems to me that these are just links in the same chain, and portals are the answer to half of the questions.
or is it because of the large number of talismans inside the tree 🧐
But the hollow did not close like a house, apparently the branches really served as a "door/window".
So there are a few questions here))
That's how everything in houses is also very conditionally "inseparable".
The only thing I want to say is that even very strong-minded people give up, and we need to be a little more attentive in our lives to ourselves and our loved ones in order to help, understand and support when it is needed. 💔
But they obviously respect each other.
How long Boyd and his wife were in town before her cuckoo went, it doesn't matter at all. Not so long, but not a day either. It is clear from the context there that some time has passed.
How many Boyds are in the city at all, it seems to have been voiced somewhere in the first episodes. I don't remember, but for sure it was more than a year (Fatima appeared a year ago and she didn't know Alice's mother), but less than three (Donna said she had been here for three years).
Victor didn't talk to anyone much. She immediately told the boy about the trees: no one would believe it. That is, he already had the experience of storytelling)
In general, some of your questions have already been answered or are easily understandable, but no one will answer some of them right away. Like, how long has this place been around?
Well, or the city is really a pocket in another dimension, to which our world sometimes "connects". And at night, accordingly, another world is "connected", in which the pale and hungry live) And because of the inaccuracy of the "connection", the trees are shifting.
Although, maybe they came from their own world in the afternoon.
It seems that it was clear from the first episode that this was not about action and pee-pee. And still, under each episode, up to the last one, there will be those who complain about this.
There would be no complaints about the series under each episode if the dialogues did not interfere with the plot, but complemented it and if the characters were revealed through actions, and not just through simple dialogues.
That is, theoretically, before that ill-fated day, everyone lived normally in the city. But then where did these amulets come from? Victor was left alone in the city, but he could not make amulets, because then he would have used them successfully and would have shared his knowledge with others. Then who did it?
What do you think a person can do in principle with a sudden massshooting? Are all those who don't escape stupid?
Well, they'll think it's a prank and won't talk to them
- What's in there?
- Some numbers: 4 8 15 16 23 42...
He was angry primarily because his father ignored his words the morning before he got lost in the woods. He said, "don't go into the woods yet, you're too busy with the affairs of the city here, and you don't notice that something is very wrong with Maman."
However, after her, it feels like some kind of serial youth... Infantile. At first, Julie ran away (OK, she was angry at her parents, but what was her brother's fault?). Now it turns out that Alice was angry at his father because his mother had gone off the rails. In fact, it's unlikely that Boyd could have done anything. It wasn't support that was needed here, but a psychiatrist. And in the end, really, Alice never once thought about his offense, what was it like for his father?
Alice saw that Mom was getting sick and tried to draw her father's attention to it. He asked him to stop collecting chickens and goats at least for a short time, and helped. Dad said, "Mom's a Marine, and you're aggravating." and he disappeared for 2 days. Which was the final trigger for Abby.
If the boy had been killed, his father would have been crushed and would never have built a tower and tried with the radio. Jade, of course, started it... but in fact, he merged and did not remember about the radio anymore. There is a lot of fuss, little exhaust. But the boy's father will clearly bring the idea from the radio to the end.
In general, it was a kick-ass before finding the amulets, it's creepy to hear these screams all night.
What happened to Victor?
- You went through the magic tree!
-...huh?
It is clear that they must look like ordinary people in order to gain the trust of the victims, but some outfits are not everyday, so to speak, maybe each of them also has some kind of past and does it matter?
It is clear that the father and son had a fight after the death of the mother. But I thought the monsters ate her, but then it turns out he was so tough. Oh.
I remembered, by the way. A couple of episodes ago, the priest said, they say, what difference does it make whether we are alive or in purgatory, we still need to get out. I thought at the time that there was a difference. In purgatory, you don't have to be afraid to die. It won't get any worse anyway, but at least you'll move on somewhere. Apparently, Abby had similar thoughts.
About that hole and the talismans. It's reckless to just grab these stones with symbols. What if they worked in these places? What if it's not about them at all, but about the walls? A lot of nuances.
The characters seem to be quite adequate, they can communicate with words through their mouths. But often, at the will of the screenwriter, they do shit.
So Jade came running to ask something possibly important, and Jim freaked out and swore at him, as if he was to blame for what happened to Julie. And again, he didn't even ask what he wanted, he started talking about the signal and the tower. And of course, it is Jim's requirement that must be fulfilled in the first place.
In general, the plot is not bad. But the implementation is mediocre (
It seems that the monsters did not break the windows, the resident himself let one of the monsters in, and she already let everyone else in. The doors seem to be intact too. Everyone who managed to escape from the people fled at night. Well, the monsters probably scattered with the passage of the morning, too.
I think we've come to the conclusion that it's safer to live separately in small groups than as a commune.
A very sad story about his wife and how she tried to "wake everyone up". 😔
Both the residents of the cottage and the city also somehow abandoned Donna - she will figure it out, she will collect the remains herself, she will bury them. Some kind of m*quality festival. It feels like only the sheriff and an assistant, a priest, Donna and a doctor, a cook take care of the community (city + cottage). The rest are like extras/consumers/herd.
It's really interesting what the rest of the city is doing. There are not enough doctors - the doctor will die, and there will be no more help, you need to finish training. The sheriff is gone - an assistant assistant is needed to train the replacement. Sarah disappeared from the cafe - she needs a replacement as a cook's assistant. In general, what do the rest of the people do (not the cottage, there was its own atmosphere), so as not to go crazy from the lack of activity / change of scenery / Internet all days?
In a good way, they need to hold daily meetings where they will discuss who knows what, what was unusual, etc.
And brainstorm all available information.
— But there are symbols and Victor's photo...
— And they don't give a shit. By the way, the radio is working, we need to go higher.
— Oh, Donna, are we going to build a tower on your roof?
— I have 14 people who died. Build whatever you want.
— High!
Of course, all the series also have extras, but here it is clearly so useless that you are just surprised. We have already written about this in the comments above. Even of the main characters, no one is particularly revealed to us. They said a little bit about Victor, the priest told his backstory and that's about Boyd. That's all. And about the rest, it's just "this engineer, this one built a multimillion-dollar company, this one didn't finish her studies as a doctor." Well, Kamon. There are two episodes left until the end of the season, who should I empathize with?
It's a little unclear to me why Victor wasn't in the flashbacks. I think the series about him will be the most interesting.
It was very cool to come up with the death of the Sheriff's wife, I thought there was a banal murder by monsters, but it turned out to be very interesting. But I don't understand a little how they bought into it so easily that you can't leave the city, it seems to me that anyone will still try to do a couple of laps, well, or they decided to just leave it behind the scenes.
It's a very heavy burden for the sheriff... what a horror he had to go through... it's a pity that his son couldn't support him, he was alone with his pain all the way... and only now everything has improved somehow.
I really like the way the events of the series unfold, the dynamics of everything!
just listen
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I was a little worried when the sheriff's son saw the killer girl coming out of the cabin, because he was afraid that he would start drowning for the murder/trial of the girl. But in the end, he accepted everything, which fits very well into a story in which his mother died, and even at the hands of his father, who did not pay attention to them. In short, the sheriff's son is doing well, his head is boiling.