@Zlogorek: not everyone pays attention to the details, otherwise it was possible to explain too much like " why are the characters stupid and waiting for a blow: the reason the writers need an epic fight (although I think the audience needs it)
In general, I wanted to say that Leia was hamming something on the transfer 😅😘
@vs40: Damn it. It's also his favorite. If you could at least explain logically why, she would stop being so annoying. He takes on too much responsibility . 🤬
It's nice that they didn't delay the meeting between Obi-wan and Vader. It was pretty epic, but how much stronger Vader became. Or maybe Kenobi has already rusted in ten years.
He became so much stronger that he could not force Obi out of the wall of fire or just bypass this place. What ridiculous situations the series generates in 3 episodes. Then I think worse.
@j0ker123: Well, obviously, I let him lick his wounds. He's been waiting for a rematch for 10 years. And this is not a rematch. And the beating. I think he's not even interested in it himself)
@j0ker123: It was a complete cringe and facepalm..A minute before, he had extinguished the wall of fire in a second, couldn't he have done it a second time? A bunch of soldiers couldn't get around the fire? It wasn't solid, it was possible to cross there on the sides... the logic floated away (((
As I recall, Anakin was very "fried" on Mustafar, emotionally and physically, which actually destroyed part of his potential and strength. But he still remained valuable to Palpatine, and Vader's powers grew over the years. And it's only been 10 years. So Vader is not quite in the same "juice" as in Episodes 4,5,6.
@j0ker123: The car was generated by strange situations. They say every five minutes that the planet needs to be searched, but it's not clear what they're doing instead. Considering that there are a lot of personnel there and, most likely, the head of the empire has brought some more mega-mercenaries with him, every stone should already be saluted and reported on the current situation. Technically, they are not even looking for just an enemy of the state, but a blood enemy of the first person of this very state, who once hurt the universal overlord a little. Again, it's not very clear why targeting such a powerful Jedi wasn't hanging from every pole. Obi-Wan's clear face should be seen by everyone with their eyes closed... The ambitious Third Sister, with the help of some incredible gonzo deduction, found a secret passage, but instead of walking through it, she somehow guessed where exactly it led and materialized there. Of course, we can assume that all roads lead to the port, but how Kenobi's ally passed by the Third Sister and how she got to the epic battle site is a big mystery. Apparently, all the characters attended a course of lectures on sudden appearance in the right place and with the right equipment. P.S.: did the designers of lightsabers even think about how a fighter would fight in the dark? Not only is this type of weapon completely unsuitable for reconnaissance missions, but it is also of little use for open combat in low-light conditions. The Jedi blinds himself with his own sword...
For the most part, you are right, but Vader is not the first person of the Empire, after all, Palpatine is the Emperor. Vader is the chief security officer) And swords are weapons of the "noble era", they are not used to surreptitiously attack at night. Rather, to bring light and justice on a clear day) But it doesn't change the overall impression of the series, yes. Very "so-so".
DELIGHT! It was so long-awaited and beautiful, and the fire scene is the peak of cinematic parallels. Seeing Hayden Christensen as Anakin again after all these years is just incredible. It seems that the theories about the Third Sister are starting to be confirmed a bit. She clearly did not appreciate the murder of an innocent child, it was not for nothing that such an emphasis was placed on her reaction. It's a pity that we ordered only six episodes for the series.
I really liked the first half of the episode, Leia is just shining and it's nice to watch her and Kenobi's scenes. But the meeting with Vader... Personally, it looked very cheap and unimpressive to me. Although it would seem that SUCH an event should have been goosebumps. It is clear that Kenobi took him away from people, it is clear that he is already much weaker than before. The attraction is not to this, but to the way it is filmed. It was so "delicious" to show the power that Vader now possesses. Well, when Vader just watched through a veil of fire as the droid carried Kenobi away, even though a minute ago he was forcefully lifting Ben into the air from the same distance... Apparently, Vader's energy charge is over, it's time to go back to the bacta chamber.
@GonReborn: it was especially felt that even Disney himself did not make an event out of it, with his switches in the middle of the battle to Ley and Sister 🥲
@GonReborn: I think he just doesn't want to kill him like this, defenseless. Like, I've been dreaming for 10 years, and then some grandfather didn't take the pills. Let him go, maybe practice. I've been waiting for 10 years And then there's such a zilch))
Has the "Grandfather" already waved with the Pier again? Or not yet? Then it's too early for Grandfather to die)) Anyway, we all know when his "death" will come :)
@Prun_ik: pancake. The worst part is that I watched Clones and Rebels before Disney started making music videos non-stop. There's a lot going on right now. I remember. Not everything, but there's too much to review. And Machete does not reconsider 😁
Well, the way he looked at the fire rather ineffectively looked like "you're not going anywhere from me." It was obvious that he was fighting hard from the very beginning.
I liked this episode more than the previous ones. Although it still doesn't leave a feeling that a more interesting series could have been made about Obi-Wan.
I am glad to see Darth Vader, he is very powerful, he has become much stronger since their last meeting, unlike Obi-Wan. Kenobi couldn't do anything against Vader at all.
Apparently, this is what they said in the saga, that fear, memories and doubts make a Jedi weaker… We are waiting for Obi to come to terms with what is happening, get tangible power and already talk to Quaigon
I liked the episode. I'm glad to see Hayden as Anakin again, to the point of goosebumps. The way Vader went and ruthlessly killed people was creepy! I didn't expect their meeting to be shown so quickly. What about the duel: I understand that the years have made Ben weaker, just like Vader said, but... Watching Obi-Wan run away after a couple of punches was at least strange. And when he finally "let him go." Hmm. But still, for me as a spectator, watching them meet after so many years was incredible.
- "What have you become?" - "I am what you have made me".
The scene where Obi got the names mixed up makes the stormtroopers not only the MOST ACCURATE MARKSMEN in the GALAXY, but also equates their intellectual abilities with federation droids, funny) and the fact that the names were mixed up by a seasoned Jedi, and not a 10-year-old girl looks strange. But Leia is a beauty again, this girl plays the role very coolly, and you can really see that Leia from the original trilogy in her right now.
@Garsio: pfft. It has been known about stormtroopers and their IQ for so long. Actually, it was said in plain text. Take at least "These are not the droids" and Obi-Wan's comment about weak minds))
But I liked it. He was so worried that she wouldn't talk that he let it slip. I think all 3 episodes of this series make it clear to us that this is not the Obi Wan who could have killed Anakin with one left hand in episode 3. Broken, depressed, a loser.
With the price of fire, it's just space!Anakin could rip Obie apart with a snap)) Even here, the scriptwriters showed that he was bouncing from goodness to light when he saw his teacher and let him go 🔥🔥🔥 The series is gaining momentum!!!
I think he probably didn't want to end the possibly lengthy process of savoring revenge so quickly. Vader said that "this is just the beginning of your torment."
We tried to play the scary Vader, terrifying a la in "Rogue One", but somehow meeh.. What needs to happen in 3 episodes for Obie to rock up for a full-fledged rematch? He is much weaker than his student, and this is logical. One spent 10 years feeding on his own hatred and grief for Padma, rocking into the mighty Sith lord and mowing down the surviving Jedi, the other chopped some meat and traded with the Jawas on Tatooine. What scenario solution will we get for a normal duel?
On the one hand, this series is better than the previous ones, but on the other hand, I still have the feeling that the huge potential of the main story arc has been exhausted. And it's very sad, although I hope that a miracle will happen in the remaining half, and everything will make some sense.
P.S. Seriously, has the Grand Inquisitor really been leaked? Are the rebels not canon? What's going on? P. P. S. For a new planet with an unusual climate in the film universe like
Oh, and if you don't like this, but like, for example, Mando, let me remind you that this creation is the work of Kathleen Kenedy's team, not Filoni and Favreau (they are not mentioned anywhere in the crew members). As they say, feel the difference. They also shit in each other's pants, rewriting the canon from project to project. Get that madam out of Lucasfilm already, she has a unique gift for making shit out of everything she touches (
@mber654: yes, this bullshit about the murder of the Grand Inquisitor is really annoying, at first the PS remade the story of Kanan from the comics (okay, that's fine), but here it's too much
@mber654: I agree. To make a lightsaber duel a level lower than in the fourth episode, you had to try very hard or hate it very much. They also made some kind of EMO girl out of Obi Wan. I can't believe for the life of me that this bloke is the same Ben who, in the fourth episode, at the slightest hint of a threat, without hesitation chopped off the hand of a random gopnik. This is a Jedi who has been training his will and mind since early childhood. Yes, and in the third episode, in the strongest emotional turmoil, he butchered Anakin without hesitation, because it was necessary. The skills of swordsmanship and strength can be lost in ten years of inactivity - no one argues with this. But the self-discipline and control that you've been training since childhood? When he made a slip of the tongue in front of the stormtroopers, I almost punched myself in the forehead with a facepalm. Judging by such blunders, Obi Wan has been drinking like crazy all these ten years. The most annoying thing is, the story itself is not so bad. The characters have motivation, a cunning plan is or was. The Empire looks threatening, stormtroopers are not morons. But the realization is tear it off and throw it away. With another director, you could have made a candy out of this story. In short, these are not the droids I was looking for.
@mber654: Yeah, I hoped to the last that they wouldn't waste their potential. I thought Filoni/Favreau had at least consulted on the set. It would seem that how can you screw up such a promising project? How can you screw up (WITH HAYDEN AND EWEN) the meeting between Vader and Ben during this period?
But apparently, Kennedy did it. I expected that at least this scene would cause goosebumps, despite everything else in the series. Fuck it. Even Boba with the cringe episodes from Rodriguez now seems like an amazing series (although I actually liked it anyway). Let me remind you, it was a series about a third-rate and not the most interesting character with (presumably) a much smaller budget.
I'm sorry that I poured it out to you in response, but when I saw that Favreau and Filoni were left on the side of the road, I especially felt a burning sensation in a certain place. After all, there will hardly be another chance to see a good version of Obi-Wan's story during this period with these actors. There is hope for the remaining three episodes, but it is already quite illusory.
P.S. If the Inquisitor's death remains unchanged, then I personally will refuse to consider this series a canon. In general, so far it looks more like fanfiction.
@mber654: Do we have a separate "Kathleen Kenedy team" now? And how do you define what relates to her work? What don't you like from them, what don't you like? Deborah Chow didn't come here from the street, but after two episodes of the first season of Mando (the third and seventh), in which she was supposedly taken by Saints Favreau and Felony. What is this, betrayal? Is the canon being rewritten? Is it about the Grand Inquisitor? This episode did not rewrite his fate any more than the previous one, no one here has ever said that he was dead , "Take her away," "Favreau and Filoni.".. And who gave these Favreau and Filoni their projects, I wonder?
@mber654: I don't quite understand what kind of full-fledged rematch you mean. The best Obi-wan has to rely on is to escape somehow, maybe fake his own death so that Vader doesn't look for him. They may fight again, but we all know the circumstances of their last fight.
That's how they advertised to us in the promotional company from all the irons that there would be a REMATCH, and that's what I'm referring to. So I'm just asking myself in my comment, what kind of equal match can we talk about when one is almost at the peak of his form, and the other looks like a drunken bum
The revenge of a cripple in a tin can and a morally destroyed old man, an employee of a meat factory on Tatooine... And that's what Disney spends money on...Not like the damn Yuuzhan Vong War...Not even one Darth Krayt...Neither the terraforming of Coruscant by new invaders and the trillion-dollar genocides, NOR the gray morality of the multifaceted interesting idea that Sidious was the savior of the galaxy, actually preparing the fleet and death stars with the empire for the invasion of transgalactic aliens, and the stupid rebels simply condemned the galaxy to alien genocide....THEY'RE SPENDING MONEY ON RESUSCITATING A CORPSE THAT CAN STILL BE MILKED! IT'S NOT BREATHING ANYMORE, AND THERE AREN'T EVEN ANY IDEAS LEFT FOR FILMING IN THIS TIME PERIOD! NO, THEY KEEP SQUEEZING EVERY DROP...
Damn it. You have 2 of the most iconic characters. One of them (Vader) is known in every corner of the planet! It was a waste of time to come up with this ignorant sister. Disney just signed up for his infirmity. Something truly great could be done around Kenobi and Vader. And they dilute the time with all sorts of stuff.
>You have 2 of the most iconic characters. One of them (Vader) is known in every corner of the planet! It was a waste of time to come up with this ignorant sister. Disney just signed up for his infirmity.
@Choly_Cavel: Well, damn, there's a nuance here. Both Vader and Ben completed their character arcs 39-45 YEARS ago, in the old movies. The authors cannot violate the canon. They cannot give the same Vader any development (because after that they will have to return this development back to the status quo in order for the canon to dock). It's the same with Ben.
I have little idea how to develop the same Vader well, but so that he does not develop (!) and does not end up being kind. But maybe it's just that I don't have enough imagination :)
There seemed to be only one tunnel. How did Tala go to Obi-wan without meeting that girl with dreadlocks? And how did that girl with dreadlocks get to the end of the tunnel before Leia?
Still, this tendency in the latest wave of projects to cross out the canon of previous Disney projects is somewhat encouraging. (previously, the story of Kanan's rescue was rewritten, whatever the comics, OK, but now the Grand Inquisitor died differently than in his debut appearance).
@Leyto: and how much was gray when the actor said that he had not watched "rebels" to prepare the image 😁 now everything is clear, there was nothing to prepare for 🥲🤣
2 episodes seemed to be nothing, and here are 3 full seams and draining on all fronts. Leia is annoying in general - the girl doesn't know how to play at all. An absolute pinocchio. This talk about Dad... But then everything goes, that she would have pinned Darth Vader as a child or something? By the way, Darth Vader was drained into some kind of toilet bowl - these demonstrative executions, are you kidding? Then he put out the fire himself, then he didn't put it out, then he took off. Prolonging the pleasure or something? Completely idiotic conversations - you've become weaker, I've started farting... I'm just in a rage 8-(Very sorry. But we'll have to watch.
@DeAmon2k: yes, after 2 episodes, everything became clear. No plot, the characters teleport wherever they want at the right time, 0 logic. In general, I don't even want to empathize with a single character.
@chernenkopetr: ColdFilm is still fighting with them for the most lame voice acting, Ultradox still started pushing stupid ads in the middle of the series, it's better to watch with subtitles or wait a couple of days for a normal translation
@id70201890: although I'm not a connoisseur, I'll suddenly come to the defense: koldfilm makes a fucking voiceover in the _____ compressed timespan. Yes, everyone knows that it's shit, but if someone doesn't know the language and wants to get in right away, there's no choice. Because in such a short time it is simply impossible to do better than CF does.
@NeverLoved: There is a choice - with subtitles, it's still better than putting up with ads and very poor voice quality. I don't understand this impatience, or how people watch screens in the 21st century, for example, is a mystery to me.
It's so stupid to almost burn yourself in a truck with the name of your own daughter - it's necessary to lose the last remnants of common sense altogether. The stormtrooper was smarter than the Jedi. If it hadn't been for clever Leia, we wouldn't even have reached the checkpoint. Obi-Wan doesn't catch mice at all. At least I managed to fix Lola. ⠀
I expected more from the series, not only from the meeting (there is a pleasant feeling of nostalgia, but everything looks like Leia's ridiculous escape from enemies (
A complex experience from the series. Like: a new planet; the "way" of saving the Jedi and those sensitive to the Force; Tala seemed like a curious character (I immediately remembered the Jedi master Tal, I wonder why they chose that name - it causes a very remarkable association); mention of Quinlan Vos (such a character, but he always gets some mentions; his maximum in the cinematic universe - a couple of seconds in the "Hidden Menace", eh). Dislike: a moment with Obi-Wan's caveat (obviously, years of isolation don't add skill, but this is literally a beginner's mistake, I can't believe he could screw up like that); Leia, with her insistent "go and save him", is still acting out of age here. A duel (yes, it deserves a separate point). Sadly, Obi-Wan is expected to be weaker than Darth Vader. It is unlikely that he continued to train all these years, plus his age. So I can believe it. The moment of retribution with fire is good. But at the same time, it seems very strange that Vader let him go so easily. So it feels like the fight is over... weak. Well, to be honest, Vader is a bit of a caricature: yes, he is obviously very powerful, but even in "Rogue One" the scene of his appearance inspired more awe, imho. In general, the prevailing feeling so far is that even if this series makes some sharp turns, it does them either clumsily or half-heartedly. Hurtful.
Something upset the series. Indeed, the long-awaited meeting of Obi-Wan and Anakin looks not epic, but cheap and unintelligible. In the dark in an unremarkable location, and even with pussy-Obi-Wan, who runs away constantly. If I were Vader, I would be very disappointed. And yes, it's strange that he let Obi-Wan go, even though he had attracted him at the same distance before.
And more. What is this strange tunnel? How did the Third Sister, who entered it much later than Leia, manage to get ahead of her without meeting her on the way? How did that woman, coming back, not run into the Third Sister, but teleported to Obi-Wan? Does this tunnel have a bunch of exits or something?
@DeadDanny: Well, in my opinion, it would be stupid to make a direct tunnel from the SECRET shelter to the spaceport, where pilots are waiting who agree to transport refugees. The more intricate the tunnel system, the more logical it is. The question is how stupidly it was shown that we, the audience, did not see the offshoot.
Despite the warmest feelings for the STAR universe, I still couldn't empathize with the three main characters, who are known to be alive in 20 years. Oh, or is this a spoiler? ))
What a mess... The Mandalorian and that other bastard, whatever his name is... ahh! Boba Fett is much cooler, more interesting and more spectacular. The whole series is full of gaffes and baby talk. He doesn't come in at all
By the way, I don't understand the claims that Obi-wan was a super duper Jedi BACK THEN, but now he's such a weakling that everyone is criticizing it. Obviously, Obiwan then and now are slightly different people. He is now "disconnected" from the force (Luke was the same in episode 8) so that it would be difficult for inquisitors to find him, and the force gave a big buff in abilities. Plus, the parallel with the ray of light that he talked about in this episode, it's obvious that he perceives Luke (and now Leia) as light, and he's just an old man who's living out his life and trying to provide at least some kind of supervision. He's weak and already insecure. But as it was said in an interview, he is still the kind of person who cares.
In the second half of the episode, I got a little upset. That's not how I imagined the battle between Obi-Wan and Vader, it turned out to be some kind of beating. I understand that Obi-Wan is devastated and disappointed, but it somehow looked sad. :(
How the Third Sister mysteriously ended up at the meeting place in the tunnel before Leia did, I did not understand, apparently the "Force".
It is clear that Obi Wan has not practiced for a long time and the scene with the fight against Vader seemed like a beating, most likely it touched on the next duel.... because Vader said that this is just the beginning (Well, you can't show an epic fight at the first meeting, it makes sense to me)
Probably, the first meeting should have been like this.. I still couldn't believe it was happening again.. and they fought with swords again) Cool! Cool! Cool!
"YOU CALLED HER LEIA! WHAT ARE YOU DOING?! DIDN'T YOU SAY SHE WAS A LUMA?! Eh?! WHAT'S THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN?! WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!" ... "Oh, well, okay. I won't even check your documents just in case, because I didn't react emotionally to all this so that there would be any consequences or suspicions, everything was so convincing that I instantly cooled down and forgot about everything." ... "And I also have no idea what Obi Bab Keboni looks like or how He's there, although we need to find him. Surely the real Obi Bunji Dijoni will have his personal real documents, according to which we will understand that this is him, or some kind of Jedi ID. That's it!"
@bogdansky9000: We're looking for a Jedi and a little girl, oh, he called the girl Leia, but we're going to believe this mom story, we're not only bad at shooting, we're also bad at thinking.
I give this series a rating of "1". Because it's complete shit for no one knows who. The scenario is the bottom. The characters are the bottom. Vader's lines are from the New Year's Eve matinee rehearsal. And no fan service. And there's no dignity in Kenobi.
Disney, are you really trying to push the franchise forward with THIS? FOR GOD's SAKE.
I'm surprised that many people liked Vader's appearance and everything that happens in the second half of the series. What are these incomprehensible errands of the settlement? They made both Vader and Kenobi look like idiots. And the scene by the fire? Did Vader seriously put out the fire by force first, and then just stood there and watched as the robot carried Kenobi away? Did one of the stormtroopers tell him that there were three more episodes ahead and he had to wait? The scriptwriters messed up a lot, there shouldn't be such stupid scenes in a project of this class! One could think of hundreds of ways to meet them and have an intermediate battle, but not this
@vk654270: the creators looked at the success of the Mandalorian and decided, according to the old scenario, to have a mimic little girl instead of baby Yoda and consider success in your pocket, even look at the comments - people haves and still asks :D
In fact, it's incredibly sad. For the third time, Disney is feeding viewers a story with the abduction/hunt for a baby (Groggu, Omega, Leia), while the quality of the characters decreases exponentially. Moreover, Kenobi's problem is that we know for sure that no one will die and nothing bad will happen (except for the Third Sister, she's definitely not a tenant, but who cares, God). This is just a series for the sake of the series itself, made in fear of showing the viewer at least something new and intriguing. Moreover, there will be even more such projects that do not move the universe and the world.
@id70201890: That's just the Mandalorian, they do it with a soul and with high quality. What is the cost of staging fights there, and not this circus that was here.
The series is generally disappointing, and there were so many hopes for it... I'm just watching for show and because of Ewen I hope that the actress who plays Leia will have a good career, she is quite funny and looks very organic in the frame)
I am glad to see Indira Varma. And I just remind myself every 5 minutes: no, I'm not nagging, no, I don't notice it, no, I love animals and I don't care about the rest..
But even "you should have killed me while you had the chance," how many times have we heard that? A billion? Eh.
Well, that's how they were waiting for the epic meeting of Obi Wan and Vader, and something like that with a bunch of blunders, ridiculous cat and mouse, and so on. Only the gloominess pleased me, which the films could not afford. Like a Stormtrooper in half, like Vader killing kids, and so on.)
⠀ ⠀@GreenMint: ">> What a magical tunnel" They don't even know themselves. :) As Indira Varma told Obi-Wan: ⠀⠀⠀ — Some people call it a Path. What kind of path, she probably has no idea. But certainly just like that, pretentiously, with a capital letter - "Path". And this is clearly not the Path that the Mandalorians have. ⠀
⠀ ⠀@OrangeElephant: "Not a Path, but a Way" ⠀⠀No, there is no Way, just a Path. Tala says literally the following: "Some call it the Path." It's just a route, one of the ways they try to connect the star systems, as she explains. With a very specific destination - Jabiim. In fact, it is nothing more than a smuggling trail.
⠀@OrangeElephant: "Just like the Mandalorians" ⠀⠀On the contrary, the Mandalorian Way ("This is the Way") is not a road at all in the literal sense. It's a way of life, a code. Of the earthly analogues, the most appropriate term is tao. ⠀
@GreenMint: Obviously, there is a tunnel network with multiple exits. Reva most likely did not go through him, but guessed that they would try to escape through the spaceport, so she was able to get out to cut Leia.
I was so freaked out when Vader started dragging Kenobi through the fire, I had so many thoughts at that moment: what if he got a burn on his face (and it seemed to show that he was pressing his face) but then Obi Wan will cure him like he cured groga once, or that his fucking body will be burned. And then the reality is Disney. As a result, he got a little burnt out there, and that's it. Although it's just well... It should have happened like with Anakin, but a little less... but not so much...
At what point did the tunnel grow so large that the Sister was at the other end earlier than the shallow one and did not intersect with the Melt at all? How did Tala know that Obi-Wan was at this construction site or whatever it was? The Darth scene is fucking awesome-I'll distract them-I'll be fucking around the construction site like an old drunk who shits in his pants, just... what? What?? Why?? 🤦🏽♀️A solid question mark??????? To hell with logic and everything!!
@LincolnMM: nevertheless, adults persist in trying to find it, not realizing that it is fantastic. And when they don't find it, they start hailing for everything. There's so much negativity in the comments.
@alissia: I hope you understand that even in fiction there must be logic, and when they break the rules set in that world, it infuriates people. Hayat is rather for the fact that it is very boring and cliched, people expected more from the series about one of the most notable characters of the ZV
@LincolnMM: The fact is that a fairy tale also lives by its own laws, you can't make up your mind that your left heel wants to and blame it on the fact that it's a fairy tale.
@jj_cas: literally at the moment of the first opening of the Meltwater tunnel, a fork is visible. What is the probability that she is not alone there? How did you find out? Was there probably a reinforcement of stormtroopers who arrived there at about the same time as her? Yes, and he distracted them. A direct collision wasn't going to work out for him, he knew it right away. What else could he do? Just to whine, by God
There is no fork there,I reviewed it specifically and logically, and there should be no other ways, since there is only one crossing! hspdi, why do I explain such obvious things to someone who sees whining in logical questions🤦🏽♀️😒
There shouldn't be any emergency exits in a secret passage, yeah. Very safe Although why would I even explain the obvious things to someone who, even after specially reviewing, did not see what was on the screen?
I don't know what I was waiting for, but it's definitely more epic! And here there are solid logical jambs and a sluggish plot.. Well, it's really barely crawling, and the drive that was at the end is just terrible... it's a pity the robot didn't chop up the stormtroopers with a hatchet! That would be cool!!!
I'm disappointed. This is not what I expected from an Obi-Wan series. The series is just boring and lazy, they stupidly took the same scheme that they used in The Mandalorian and decided that it would be enough. I do not know what the scenario was like before it was sent for recycling, but I hope it was even worse. We were promised to show how Obi-Wan from the third episode became Obi-Wan from the fourth, in fact, they actually showed some kind of left-wing man with the face of Ewan McGregor. Maybe I don't remember the episodes well, I haven't watched them for a long time, but are you sure that Obi-Wan from the third episode, with pain because of what happened, but humbly accepted forced seclusion for Luke, their new hope and Anakin's child, Obi-Wan from here, somehow agreed to look for Leia and absurdly burned down her name (damn it, Obi-Wan, even I can remember how and what I'm lying about, you won't catch me cheating even after a week, and you're even among the enemies), and Obi-Wan from episode four, still a recluse, but not losing his spirit and courage, Is it the same person who's trying to persuade Luke to go rescue Leia? I'm not. I know ten years of seclusion is a decent amount of time, but I don't believe it, nah. And my questions are not about the battle with Vader, but about character. McGregor defended the actress, who plays the Third Sister, saying she was bombarded with racist tweets, you're wrong, we love her, she's a wonderful actress. So, I don't care if she's black or white. Even a gungan. It bothers me that she plays like a log, not the color of her skin. Even the Fourth Sister, with much less screen time, is more convincing. Damn it, what a wonderful scheme: find a black woman for a disgustingly scripted role, and when the role is screwed up, just accuse the critics of being fucking racist and sexist.
I thought Vader would be in the series insofar as he was a lure, but there was unexpectedly a lot of him in the series. However, the battle still turned out to be clumsy. I understand that Obi-Wan has not taken a sword in his hand for ten years, but, literally, Vader did not even try. When lying down, they don't beat you, and revenge is sweeter if the opponent fights with full force? Everyone has already told me about the tunnel. One Leia pleases. Brisk, talkative, quick-witted. Here I can see perfectly well how the future brave leader of the Alliance will grow out of a wayward and direct child. Krch, it's just a shame.
Obi-Wan at the beginning of the series reminds me a lot of Dale Cooper from the third season of Twin Peaks. It seems to be the same and native, but as if completely different:(
The third episode somehow completely let me down... Obie blurted out instead of Moon Ley, OK, stormtroopers sang fables about grief in the family, the danger was over. But then! Then, damn, Leia and Obi-Wan are sitting there talking about mom and dad, and they forgot so much that they missed that Frek is sitting in front of them, who can hear your chatter, hello! And give you up on a walkie-talkie. I understand Freck's indignation if he heard his daughter asking Dad, "Are you my dad?" This conversation between them would have been appropriate under different circumstances. I don't know, the meeting between Vader and Obi-Wan didn't impress me at all... Obi-Wan fought like he'd been high for 10 years and only now had he stopped and decided to remember what strength was. Thanks, probably, to Vader for not burning Kenobi's face badly in his revenge. Otherwise, he's in episode 4 without scars, that's it...
Leia, will she meet Vader or not? That's the question?! In principle, meeting Vader does not go against the original, given that he was hunting for her in his first appearance in the history of cinema. But in the same story, she knew about the presence of a brother, but not his name. And especially about the fact that Darth is her father, in simple terms.
Fingers crossed, we hope Obi Wan doesn't blurt out that Vader is "Her father."
I don't like the way they approached the creation of this series at all. Kenobi was dragged through the fire, which we can see in several frames (he is in the fire, not next to him), and as a result, he has all his hair in place, a gorgeous beard styling, but his arm, his arm is injured. Where do so many Jedi and Sith come from? Is Order 66 a joke to them? And this tunnel? Can someone explain to me how a tunnel that only goes in two directions without branches can be bypassed by a Third One if she finds out about it LATER than Leia. How does she know where the exit is if this tunnel has to be TRAVERSED? Was she crawling on the ceiling like a high-speed spider? And how does this selective force work, if you can go into the first house you see, find a secret passage by the smell, but suddenly you can't read other people's thoughts again. What's wrong with their power features?
I'm dying of a cringe at every scene with my Sister, it's just, it's just this black fucker trying to get emotional... That's fucked up. And I'm not a racist, but when these fuckers are recruited by quotas, it's just impossible...
Damn, it became funny how Obi-Wan was running behind the hills, and Vader was already waiting for him around the corner, and I can imagine how he was also running off-screen somewhere, and then he saw Obi-Wan and got into an epic pose. And apparently, he also poured gasoline on the ground there in advance, or how else to explain that the sand caught fire from the sword
@lazyninja188: Because he was getting ready! And not a single Obi-Wan has the ability to move. (I'm talking about the fact that it somehow moves quickly over long enough distances)
But the voice acting I'm watching (from lostfilm, or they're just releasing) Vader just has a bottom.
Instead of a vague chase, it would be better if they had a normal dialogue, revealing Vader a little.
The third sister is infuriating as a character, but not so infuriating as an actress, so I don't really understand the haight in her direction. I don't know what kind of game she should have in order to love her. To begin with, the normal scenario should be the same.
It's interesting how Vader kept catching up with Obi-wan without breaking into a run. We could show a couple of tricks from him that he learned somewhere between the movies (in comics or somewhere else) which are constantly being written about.
And so all these prequels about the main characters make you feel a little sad, because you understand which of them is immortal in this series and what kind of relationship will be after. You look at Obi-wan's beating and his "gorenje" and realize that he obviously won't get a fraction of the pain that he caused Anakin.
Look at flarow films, they have Antonik, a voice from 4-6 episodes, well, or rhs, it's also present there + each of the releases has McGregor's voice from different films
I watched the first 3 episodes of Star Wars. Two questions: is this series and others in a similar dubbing? And what is the chronological order of all movies and TV series (except cartoons, I don't want to watch them)? Thank you 🙏
@alexxxvetr: there is a voiceover of this series from Red Head Sound studio, where Obi-Wan and Anakin have the same actors. There is no official dubbing The chronological order of what has been released so far: - Episodes 1-3 - Han Solo: Star Wars. Stories - Obi-Wan Kenobi - Rogue One: Star Wars. Stories - Episodes 4-6 - The Mandalorian, seasons 1-2 - The book of Boba Fett - Episodes 7-9
Obi has really weakened in 10 years. He needs to regain his old skills before he rivals Vader. When did you slap the black sister? Oh, that is, 3 sisters?!
It's like some kind of plague - everyone is trying to save the kids, And the Mandalorian, and the Jedi, and the boy with horns were saved. And everyone is concerned about the problem of children. In real life, they would have taken such care.
And the level of infantilism of adult characters is simply off the charts. It's not even funny anymore.
I looked at it, and I can't say I'm thrilled. Why such a miserable battle? (I understand that Obi is rusty, but not so rusty that he can run away like a pussy, you're Obi ONE, damn it, Kenobi! I would have said, "Hello," and gone to make myself bleed! And, of course, separately, the 3rd sister, no-hoo-I have deduction from her, I immediately found everything and understood, she's a good fucking girl. So far, she's just infuriating, and that's it, she's just blowing her nostrils.
With each new episode, there is less desire to watch further. This wasn't the kind of adventure Ben was expected to have. Stupidly. It's depressing. It's unlikely that three follow-up episodes will fix the situation in any way.
Don't get me wrong, of course I'm a fan of all things, but this theatrics negates the whole feeling of the series, with a lack of logic. Obie, who runs from Vader like a teenager, and suddenly, out of nowhere, Vader jumps out at Obie, not even from behind, but from the side in his field of vision, isn't that how it works? It's called sneaking up, I'm generally silent about Vader's teleportation. But when in the end this aunt found a tunnel, I fell out altogether, she did not meet with the one who went to help Obi (there may be several exits, I agree) but the fact that she managed to get to the exit earlier and not meet Leia was a surprise. And there are just a lot of such moments to watch.
Maybe I should have told Disney that you can upload the series right away, rather than watching the series and thinking about whether it's going to get better or worse?
At the end of the series, I want only two things. 1. Find out where Ben gets the shampoo from which the hair is always soft and silky and does not burn in the fire from transformer oil. 2. Where Vader gets the polish for the helmet, so that even in the desert it constantly shines. I would have rubbed my Zhiguli.
This series surprises me, both pleasantly and not so much. Obi-Wan hides behind civilians in battle (even if this person was pro-imperial), seriously?! I understand that Kenobi has given up over the years, lost touch with the force, and doesn't trust people, but damn, this behavior is too much for a Jedi, even an ex. Well, a pleasant surprise was the scene where the stormtrooper was cut in half by a laser, it's really unexpected to see this in Disney products, which usually try to make the Star Wars universe as toothless and refined as possible. Mentioning Quinlan Vos in passing was pleasant, right now I'm reading the novel "The Dark Disciple" about this character and his cooperation with Asajj Ventress in an attempt to kill Dooku. The fate of the former inquisitor is still unclear, because if he died, it contradicts the events in the cartoon "Rebels", where he died under different circumstances. It turns out that it's either a joint, or "Rebels" or "Obi-Wan Kenobi" in various degrees of canonicity. However, it has already happened that there is even less uniformity in the new Canon than in the Legends, and there are a lot of contradictions between films \ TV series\ cartoons\ books\ comics. The meeting between Kenobi and Vader is certainly gorgeous, there's nothing you can do about it.
As soon as the inquisitor appears, everything starts to piss me off. It would have been better if Filoni had been given the project, he would not have failed with a defective batch. Jokes about fanfiction are no longer jokes, although the tension with the duel was great. But Obi-Wan's lethargy was reminiscent of the aged Luke in the new trilogy.
Well, the dark lord wasn't impressed at all, the fight was disgusting, the moment with the bonfire when he put out the first time, and the second time he watched Ben being carried away by the fire, the third sister know comment, the viewing is over for this episode
I watched the second episode yesterday and watched the third episode.
It's kind of sad, even weaker than Boba Fett, as for me. Cool groundwork, but what a vague implementation on all fronts. 🙈
Obi-Wan is sad, The Third sister is so completely, Leia and chase her — a-a-a-a! And Vader is some kind of caricatured evil, he inspires more in the Outcast. The graphics in general, and the editing are some kind of sidab. 😑
So far, the most interesting character is Dinesh (from Silicon Valley). I'd like to see/hear more of Palpatine, huh.
The fact that Vader subjected Kenobi to burns, but his face was not injured. In episode 4, Obi-Wan has a face without burns. As after such a fire, even the beard did not burn off🌚
Although I'm thrilled to see Obi-Wan and Anakin on the same screen again, it still haunts me that Kanon just walked out of the chat. After this series, New Hope looks as illogical as possible.
And even more disturbing is the fact that the checkpoint could have been EASILY BYPASSED.
@Pandme: In A New Hope, Obi-Wan and Anakin meet for the first time after Anakin became Darth Vader. And here, it turns out, they not only saw each other, but also fought. Leia didn't know Obi-Wan personally either.
@Anaichka: It's not necessarily the first time Vader and Kenobi met in Episode 4 after Anakin joined the dark side. Nothing contradicts the canon here. It's only been 10 years here. Therefore, the "stingy" dialogue between Anakin and Obi-Wan sounds quite logical both here and later, in A New Hope. Here, Vader still has a fresh memory of how he burned in lava on Mustafar, and therefore the "fight" went exactly this way. And Vader is not as strong here as in E-4, he has honed his dark skills over the years. And getting to know Leia here just looks very logical against the background of the message embedded in R2D2, when Leia asks Kenobi for help in a New Hope.
A beginner in Star Wars. I watched the first 3 episodes, Han Salo, Rogue One, and now Obi Wan. So this series is the weakest thing I've seen, as if it was filmed for children and they didn't bother much with the script.. I'm thrilled with Han Solo, although at first I wanted to skip it altogether, since there's not much connection in terms of characters with the first episodes. It's a pity that all the films are so strikingly different levels.
The only hope I see for the story right now is if Obi-Wan screams at Qui-Gon and he puts his brains in place. A really weak encounter between two epic characters and the original actors from the films. Seeing a team of solid women, I was afraid of this.
The tunnel didn't bother me. I don't know how the Third Sister figured out where the ending was (scanned by force?), but she clearly went there on top (jumping by force? well, or parkour), killed the pilot and waited for Leia.
On the one hand, it's understandable why Wey started cutting up the world...but damn, AND HE should have realized that Obi would ALMOST completely give a damn about the hardworking villagers and he would not risk his life and mission. They went through the Clone Wars together, the mentality can't change that much...Even after Satine's death, it was clear how committed Obie was to the ideals of the Jedi Order. Obi Wan has a very serious control of emotions, he proved it back in the fight with Maul, when he was able to contain his rage and win through cunning right in a duel. That's why the scene with myrnyak was strange...although it had a logical grain... perhaps Weida just wanted to mock Obi, at his impotence...over principles, knowing that he won't answer. On the other hand, it doesn't fit into the concept of the classic Vader from the original...rather, in the concept of his psychopathic granddaughter from the new trilogy. In general, by episode 3, I understand more and more that Disney wants to merge the memory of the prequels as well...Well done, Disney che...Let's clap standing up. (emotion of sadness)
In Mandalorian, they managed to maintain a balance of childishness, moderate cruelty and an interesting plot at the level of a New Hope. Here, it's as if the same story is being retold to kindergartens, replacing one nyasha with another. I understand that you shouldn't expect much from the series, but this has been a bit of a mess since the chase for Leia. I don't give ratings, because the series was obviously not made for me. I'd like something like Episode 5 or Rogue... Of course, it's hard to squeeze a full-fledged story between episode 3 and 4 into the Procrustean bed of the canon, but bl... everyone knows what's going to happen next, why did they make this meeting LIKE THIS?
Leia is beautiful. Exhausted, messing up, insecure, and distrustful Obi-Wan... well, understandable, but still kind of weird. Actually, I liked how Leia and Kenobi met, and it became much clearer to me why Leia sent R2D2 to him in Episode 4. I'm tormented by this question: The third Sister (damn her) came up with a plan to lure Obi-Wan out with the help of Senator Organa's child, finding a connection between them in the archives (what kind of archives, and what kind of connection is indicated there?!), the plan worked, they were tracked down on this planet, Vader flew after Kenobi. HOW is it that the archives indicate a connection between a girl and a Jedi, but Vader doesn't dream that the girl is his daughter? I understand why he doesn't feel it. Both Luke and Leia's Strength showed up late. But how did it happen that the Empire found out the notorious "connection", but did not find out that Leia was Anakin's daughter?
@Oliverell22: How would they find out? Leia's existence was no secret. Well, Organa has a daughter, what does Anakin have to do with it? It was a question that could have been asked all these years even without the series.
@Oliverell22: Most likely, it's about the movies, they don't want to break the canon in this regard.
in episode 4, when he caught Leia, he didn't feel it either, because then Lucas didn't even think that Leia was Luke's sister) and then they decided to do this twist anyway, but not to return to Vader-Leia, because it would be illogical that he felt Luke, but Leia wasn't there now. It needs to be explained
therefore, it is unlikely that we will see them in this series (
On the one hand, the series is easy and fun to watch (I can't find another word), but on the other hand, it's so childish! The plot is based on my word of honor, I will not repeat everything that was written before about ridiculous child chases, super parkour Sisters, the inability / unwillingness of Darth Vader to catch Kenobi. What about the straight corridor (at least that's how it's shown), from which Tala first runs away without meeting the Third Sister, and then the Third Sister herself somehow outruns Leia? Even though I'm not a fan of ZV, and I just wanted to watch an entertaining series, but here even I'm shocked.
What a cringe! Were the Stormtroopers riding in the same car with the Jedi they were looking for and didn't recognize him? Did they apply any sanctions at all to my sister for killing my boss? They didn't even deduct it from your salary? Is there Indian resistance in the empire? Obi-wan's beard wasn't even burnt.
Yes, there is a moment that everything should have been a level higher, but in fact, everything can be understood.
we are shown a broken Obi-Wan, he blamed himself for what happened for 10 years, did not train, hid, lost all hope (this is perfectly shown in the scene where he refused to help the Jedi)
They're making a good drama where Kenobi found out that Anakin is alive , he's still trying to recover from it, for all 10 years he was sure he killed him! and he became a monster. his beloved padawan, brother, friend, kills children (both women and children))). He's in shock.
he is weak, he has not held a sword in his hand for 10 years, he barely caught Leia, because only in a moment of adrenaline could he use Force.
Anakin is angry, he is very strong, but his body and all these procedures remind him every day of what he has experienced, he hates his teacher and will hate him until death, as we have seen in the movies
Catch him and beat him up at your base? It's easy for so many years of resentment, he'll make him suffer too, so he just let him go, so he calmly followed him without using even a third of his strength.
I don't understand, what does everyone want to see? A battle like on Mustafar? until that happens, imagine how a person can change in 10 years, especially if they are broken and depressed. Here, both Vader and Kenobi are like that, each reflected it in their own way.
I like the series. these wanderings, emotions, when Obie looks at the smart little Leia, who is always fighting for justice and sees Padme in her 💔
Everything is going great for me.
the only thing is, this is already a shoal of movies, it's such a pity that they didn't reveal that Leia was also Anakin's daughter, the films focused on Luke, and he only recognized Luke there, not his daughter (when they caught Leia in episode 4, he didn't feel anything, because the writers had already done a twist with Leia in the next films) it means that we are unlikely to see their interaction here, but it would have turned out to be a good drama. 🥲
in general, I enjoy my favorite characters very much) many people compare it to the Mandalorian, yes, the series is gorgeous, but it's also very measured and epic things didn't happen there mostly in the initial episodes, so I don't know) I watch the series with the expectation of seeing drama, which was not enough between episodes, everything really suits me) This is not Rey, who has been a super Jedi since day one, but Obi-Wan, who has gone through a difficult moral path and is experiencing the consequences of his own mistakes.
so for most people, it doesn't burn because Obi-Wan is relaxed, which is logical, and not from emotions, but from all sorts of nonsense like a gang of thugs who can't keep up with a ten-year-old girl, and a Third Sister who, much later, passed through a secret passage, but somehow ended up in his The end before Leia 🤪
Could such a popular franchise really not find a girl who looks like a ten-year-old child for the role of a ten-year-old child? Well, at least to be able to run not like a five-year-old? I can't stand it for three more episodes (
a little cheap. as many have noticed. the meeting of two warriors in a sandy field and the scattering of burning Christmas cones is such a level!)) the first is an extremely average series. but I like her anyway.
God, why do we need this, there's not even a fence at the checkpoint, well, go around the gate, you're not sheep, how could black Leia get around the tunnel at all? I understand the conventions, but it's so stupid, just sitting there.
Vader is good. And Obie, of course, had gone completely limp after ten years of wandering. No wonder Anakin is just not interested in trying to kill him so helplessly.
This episode is the best for me so far. I was in suspense until the very end. It was sad to hear about Obi-Wan's answers about Leia's mother. Darth Vader.... Interestingly, he doesn't want to kill his former teacher right away, perhaps torment him before the end and find out about Padme's last moments?
Obi Wan: I just killed 4 clones without worrying too much. He's also: 3 clones + an officer who haven't even left the amphibious airship yet — well, that's it, I give up, there are too many of you,
I didn't understand why it was necessary to shoot the lever if the checkpoint could be bypassed from the side. Oh, Ellaria Sand, how many years, how many winters! It's funny: I've always liked Leia and Darth Vader, but sometimes Leia gets annoying [yes, I understand that she's still just a child with a very rebellious personality, but..], and Vader doesn't cause any sympathy at all. apparently, over the years, both of them, as usual, will become wiser, and therefore I'm more of a fan of their later versions. 😁
Fanfact from Ewan McGregor himself https://vkvideo.ru/video-77172428_456239692?t=13m40s when the battle of Obi-wan and Vader was filmed, Ewen stood and prepared for filming. Vader ran up to him from behind, Ewen turned around and was like, Fuck!scared 😱 🤣
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235⠀Leia has never been fed during the entire past timekeeping.⠀:(
⠀And Grog would have long ago caught someone in passing, some kind of frog.⠀:)
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In general, I wanted to say that Leia was hamming something on the transfer 😅😘
They say every five minutes that the planet needs to be searched, but it's not clear what they're doing instead. Considering that there are a lot of personnel there and, most likely, the head of the empire has brought some more mega-mercenaries with him, every stone should already be saluted and reported on the current situation. Technically, they are not even looking for just an enemy of the state, but a blood enemy of the first person of this very state, who once hurt the universal overlord a little.
Again, it's not very clear why targeting such a powerful Jedi wasn't hanging from every pole. Obi-Wan's clear face should be seen by everyone with their eyes closed...
The ambitious Third Sister, with the help of some incredible gonzo deduction, found a secret passage, but instead of walking through it, she somehow guessed where exactly it led and materialized there. Of course, we can assume that all roads lead to the port, but how Kenobi's ally passed by the Third Sister and how she got to the epic battle site is a big mystery.
Apparently, all the characters attended a course of lectures on sudden appearance in the right place and with the right equipment.
P.S.: did the designers of lightsabers even think about how a fighter would fight in the dark? Not only is this type of weapon completely unsuitable for reconnaissance missions, but it is also of little use for open combat in low-light conditions. The Jedi blinds himself with his own sword...
And swords are weapons of the "noble era", they are not used to surreptitiously attack at night. Rather, to bring light and justice on a clear day)
But it doesn't change the overall impression of the series, yes. Very "so-so".
It seems that the theories about the Third Sister are starting to be confirmed a bit. She clearly did not appreciate the murder of an innocent child, it was not for nothing that such an emphasis was placed on her reaction. It's a pity that we ordered only six episodes for the series.
Anyway, we all know when his "death" will come :)
I am glad to see Darth Vader, he is very powerful, he has become much stronger since their last meeting, unlike Obi-Wan. Kenobi couldn't do anything against Vader at all.
We are waiting for Obi to come to terms with what is happening, get tangible power and already talk to Quaigon
The way Vader went and ruthlessly killed people was creepy!
I didn't expect their meeting to be shown so quickly. What about the duel: I understand that the years have made Ben weaker, just like Vader said, but... Watching Obi-Wan run away after a couple of punches was at least strange. And when he finally "let him go." Hmm. But still, for me as a spectator, watching them meet after so many years was incredible.
- "What have you become?"
- "I am what you have made me".
- Do I not know how to talk or do I not like talking?
"You're not talking."
Even here, the scriptwriters showed that he was bouncing from goodness to light when he saw his teacher and let him go 🔥🔥🔥
The series is gaining momentum!!!
What needs to happen in 3 episodes for Obie to rock up for a full-fledged rematch? He is much weaker than his student, and this is logical. One spent 10 years feeding on his own hatred and grief for Padma, rocking into the mighty Sith lord and mowing down the surviving Jedi, the other chopped some meat and traded with the Jawas on Tatooine. What scenario solution will we get for a normal duel?
On the one hand, this series is better than the previous ones, but on the other hand, I still have the feeling that the huge potential of the main story arc has been exhausted. And it's very sad, although I hope that a miracle will happen in the remaining half, and everything will make some sense.
P.S. Seriously, has the Grand Inquisitor really been leaked? Are the rebels not canon? What's going on?
P. P. S. For a new planet with an unusual climate in the film universe like
As they say, feel the difference.
They also shit in each other's pants, rewriting the canon from project to project. Get that madam out of Lucasfilm already, she has a unique gift for making shit out of everything she touches (
* I hope he turns out to be alive after all
The most annoying thing is, the story itself is not so bad. The characters have motivation, a cunning plan is or was. The Empire looks threatening, stormtroopers are not morons. But the realization is tear it off and throw it away. With another director, you could have made a candy out of this story.
In short, these are not the droids I was looking for.
But apparently, Kennedy did it. I expected that at least this scene would cause goosebumps, despite everything else in the series. Fuck it. Even Boba with the cringe episodes from Rodriguez now seems like an amazing series (although I actually liked it anyway). Let me remind you, it was a series about a third-rate and not the most interesting character with (presumably) a much smaller budget.
I'm sorry that I poured it out to you in response, but when I saw that Favreau and Filoni were left on the side of the road, I especially felt a burning sensation in a certain place. After all, there will hardly be another chance to see a good version of Obi-Wan's story during this period with these actors. There is hope for the remaining three episodes, but it is already quite illusory.
P.S. If the Inquisitor's death remains unchanged, then I personally will refuse to consider this series a canon. In general, so far it looks more like fanfiction.
Seriously? After this episode?!
Is the canon being rewritten? Is it about the Grand Inquisitor? This episode did not rewrite his fate any more than the previous one, no one here has ever said that he was dead
, "Take her away," "Favreau and Filoni.".. And who gave these Favreau and Filoni their projects, I wonder?
This moment is creepy
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P.S. the stormtrooper was badly splintered.
@Choly_Cavel: Well, damn, there's a nuance here. Both Vader and Ben completed their character arcs 39-45 YEARS ago, in the old movies. The authors cannot violate the canon. They cannot give the same Vader any development (because after that they will have to return this development back to the status quo in order for the canon to dock). It's the same with Ben.
I have little idea how to develop the same Vader well, but so that he does not develop (!) and does not end up being kind. But maybe it's just that I don't have enough imagination :)
They just rivet the content without any effort.
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Рева поняла, что они пытаются добраться до порта, и пошла туда не через тоннель
Leia is annoying in general - the girl doesn't know how to play at all. An absolute pinocchio. This talk about Dad... But then everything goes, that she would have pinned Darth Vader as a child or something?
By the way, Darth Vader was drained into some kind of toilet bowl - these demonstrative executions, are you kidding? Then he put out the fire himself, then he didn't put it out, then he took off. Prolonging the pleasure or something? Completely idiotic conversations - you've become weaker, I've started farting...
I'm just in a rage 8-(Very sorry. But we'll have to watch.
Thank you, you made my morning.
It's so stupid to almost burn yourself in a truck with the name of your own daughter - it's necessary to lose the last remnants of common sense altogether. The stormtrooper was smarter than the Jedi. If it hadn't been for clever Leia, we wouldn't even have reached the checkpoint. Obi-Wan doesn't catch mice at all. At least I managed to fix Lola.
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Like: a new planet; the "way" of saving the Jedi and those sensitive to the Force; Tala seemed like a curious character (I immediately remembered the Jedi master Tal, I wonder why they chose that name - it causes a very remarkable association); mention of Quinlan Vos (such a character, but he always gets some mentions; his maximum in the cinematic universe - a couple of seconds in the "Hidden Menace", eh).
Dislike: a moment with Obi-Wan's caveat (obviously, years of isolation don't add skill, but this is literally a beginner's mistake, I can't believe he could screw up like that); Leia, with her insistent "go and save him", is still acting out of age here.
A duel (yes, it deserves a separate point). Sadly, Obi-Wan is expected to be weaker than Darth Vader. It is unlikely that he continued to train all these years, plus his age. So I can believe it. The moment of retribution with fire is good. But at the same time, it seems very strange that Vader let him go so easily. So it feels like the fight is over... weak. Well, to be honest, Vader is a bit of a caricature: yes, he is obviously very powerful, but even in "Rogue One" the scene of his appearance inspired more awe, imho.
In general, the prevailing feeling so far is that even if this series makes some sharp turns, it does them either clumsily or half-heartedly. Hurtful.
And more. What is this strange tunnel? How did the Third Sister, who entered it much later than Leia, manage to get ahead of her without meeting her on the way? How did that woman, coming back, not run into the Third Sister, but teleported to Obi-Wan? Does this tunnel have a bunch of exits or something?
Oh, or is this a spoiler? ))
How the Third Sister mysteriously ended up at the meeting place in the tunnel before Leia did, I did not understand, apparently the "Force".
Cool! Cool! Cool!
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"Oh, well, okay. I won't even check your documents just in case, because I didn't react emotionally to all this so that there would be any consequences or suspicions, everything was so convincing that I instantly cooled down and forgot about everything."
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"And I also have no idea what Obi Bab Keboni looks like or how He's there, although we need to find him. Surely the real Obi Bunji Dijoni will have his personal real documents, according to which we will understand that this is him, or some kind of Jedi ID. That's it!"
Because it's complete shit for no one knows who.
The scenario is the bottom. The characters are the bottom. Vader's lines are from the New Year's Eve matinee rehearsal.
And no fan service. And there's no dignity in Kenobi.
Disney, are you really trying to push the franchise
forward with THIS? FOR GOD's SAKE.
Moreover, Kenobi's problem is that we know for sure that no one will die and nothing bad will happen (except for the Third Sister, she's definitely not a tenant, but who cares, God). This is just a series for the sake of the series itself, made in fear of showing the viewer at least something new and intriguing. Moreover, there will be even more such projects that do not move the universe and the world.
I'm just watching for show and because of Ewen
I hope that the actress who plays Leia will have a good career, she is quite funny and looks very organic in the frame)
But even "you should have killed me while you had the chance," how many times have we heard that? A billion? Eh.
⠀@GreenMint: ">> What a magical tunnel"
They don't even know themselves. :)
As Indira Varma told Obi-Wan:
⠀⠀⠀ — Some people call it a Path.
What kind of path, she probably has no idea. But certainly just like that, pretentiously, with a capital letter - "Path". And this is clearly not the Path that the Mandalorians have.
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⠀@OrangeElephant: "Not a Path, but a Way"
⠀⠀No, there is no Way, just a Path. Tala says literally the following: "Some call it the Path." It's just a route, one of the ways they try to connect the star systems, as she explains. With a very specific destination - Jabiim. In fact, it is nothing more than a smuggling trail.
⠀@OrangeElephant: "Just like the Mandalorians"
⠀⠀On the contrary, the Mandalorian Way ("This is the Way") is not a road at all in the literal sense. It's a way of life, a code. Of the earthly analogues, the most appropriate term is tao.
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Hayat is rather for the fact that it is very boring and cliched, people expected more from the series about one of the most notable characters of the ZV
How did you find out? Was there probably a reinforcement of stormtroopers who arrived there at about the same time as her?
Yes, and he distracted them. A direct collision wasn't going to work out for him, he knew it right away. What else could he do?
Just to whine, by God
hspdi, why do I explain such obvious things to someone who sees whining in logical questions🤦🏽♀️😒
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There shouldn't be any emergency exits in a secret passage, yeah. Very safe
Although why would I even explain the obvious things to someone who, even after specially reviewing, did not see what was on the screen?
it's a pity the robot didn't chop up the stormtroopers with a hatchet! That would be cool!!!
The series is just boring and lazy, they stupidly took the same scheme that they used in The Mandalorian and decided that it would be enough. I do not know what the scenario was like before it was sent for recycling, but I hope it was even worse.
We were promised to show how Obi-Wan from the third episode became Obi-Wan from the fourth, in fact, they actually showed some kind of left-wing man with the face of Ewan McGregor. Maybe I don't remember the episodes well, I haven't watched them for a long time, but are you sure that Obi-Wan from the third episode, with pain because of what happened, but humbly accepted forced seclusion for Luke, their new hope and Anakin's child, Obi-Wan from here, somehow agreed to look for Leia and absurdly burned down her name (damn it, Obi-Wan, even I can remember how and what I'm lying about, you won't catch me cheating even after a week, and you're even among the enemies), and Obi-Wan from episode four, still a recluse, but not losing his spirit and courage, Is it the same person who's trying to persuade Luke to go rescue Leia? I'm not. I know ten years of seclusion is a decent amount of time, but I don't believe it, nah. And my questions are not about the battle with Vader, but about character.
McGregor defended the actress, who plays the Third Sister, saying she was bombarded with racist tweets, you're wrong, we love her, she's a wonderful actress. So, I don't care if she's black or white. Even a gungan. It bothers me that she plays like a log, not the color of her skin. Even the Fourth Sister, with much less screen time, is more convincing. Damn it, what a wonderful scheme: find a black woman for a disgustingly scripted role, and when the role is screwed up, just accuse the critics of being fucking racist and sexist.
Everyone has already told me about the tunnel.
One Leia pleases. Brisk, talkative, quick-witted. Here I can see perfectly well how the future brave leader of the Alliance will grow out of a wayward and direct child.
Krch, it's just a shame.
Obie blurted out instead of Moon Ley, OK, stormtroopers sang fables about grief in the family, the danger was over. But then! Then, damn, Leia and Obi-Wan are sitting there talking about mom and dad, and they forgot so much that they missed that Frek is sitting in front of them, who can hear your chatter, hello! And give you up on a walkie-talkie. I understand Freck's indignation if he heard his daughter asking Dad, "Are you my dad?" This conversation between them would have been appropriate under different circumstances.
I don't know, the meeting between Vader and Obi-Wan didn't impress me at all... Obi-Wan fought like he'd been high for 10 years and only now had he stopped and decided to remember what strength was.
Thanks, probably, to Vader for not burning Kenobi's face badly in his revenge. Otherwise, he's in episode 4 without scars, that's it...
That's the question?!
In principle, meeting Vader does not go against the original, given that he was hunting for her in his first appearance in the history of cinema.
But in the same story, she knew about the presence of a brother, but not his name.
And especially about the fact that Darth is her father, in simple terms.
Fingers crossed, we hope Obi Wan doesn't blurt out that Vader is "Her father."
The rest is bad.
Vader was walking down the street, and after a couple of moments, he suddenly finds himself behind Obi-Wan. Well, it's normal.
The wounded Obi-Wan lies 20 meters away, he was carried a little bit - "we will never find him"))
Ohhh. Such a character! And this series :(
Kenobi was dragged through the fire, which we can see in several frames (he is in the fire, not next to him), and as a result, he has all his hair in place, a gorgeous beard styling, but his arm, his arm is injured.
Where do so many Jedi and Sith come from? Is Order 66 a joke to them?
And this tunnel? Can someone explain to me how a tunnel that only goes in two directions without branches can be bypassed by a Third One if she finds out about it LATER than Leia. How does she know where the exit is if this tunnel has to be TRAVERSED? Was she crawling on the ceiling like a high-speed spider?
And how does this selective force work, if you can go into the first house you see, find a secret passage by the smell, but suddenly you can't read other people's thoughts again. What's wrong with their power features?
But the voice acting I'm watching (from lostfilm, or they're just releasing) Vader just has a bottom.
Instead of a vague chase, it would be better if they had a normal dialogue, revealing Vader a little.
The third sister is infuriating as a character, but not so infuriating as an actress, so I don't really understand the haight in her direction. I don't know what kind of game she should have in order to love her. To begin with, the normal scenario should be the same.
It's interesting how Vader kept catching up with Obi-wan without breaking into a run. We could show a couple of tricks from him that he learned somewhere between the movies (in comics or somewhere else) which are constantly being written about.
And so all these prequels about the main characters make you feel a little sad, because you understand which of them is immortal in this series and what kind of relationship will be after.
You look at Obi-wan's beating and his "gorenje" and realize that he obviously won't get a fraction of the pain that he caused Anakin.
The chronological order of what has been released so far:
- Episodes 1-3
- Han Solo: Star Wars. Stories
- Obi-Wan Kenobi
- Rogue One: Star Wars. Stories
- Episodes 4-6
- The Mandalorian, seasons 1-2
- The book of Boba Fett
- Episodes 7-9
And the level of infantilism of adult characters is simply off the charts. It's not even funny anymore.
Why such a miserable battle? (I understand that Obi is rusty, but not so rusty that he can run away like a pussy, you're Obi ONE, damn it, Kenobi! I would have said, "Hello," and gone to make myself bleed!
And, of course, separately, the 3rd sister, no-hoo-I have deduction from her, I immediately found everything and understood, she's a good fucking girl. So far, she's just infuriating, and that's it, she's just blowing her nostrils.
Obie, who runs from Vader like a teenager, and suddenly, out of nowhere, Vader jumps out at Obie, not even from behind, but from the side in his field of vision, isn't that how it works? It's called sneaking up, I'm generally silent about Vader's teleportation. But when in the end this aunt found a tunnel, I fell out altogether, she did not meet with the one who went to help Obi (there may be several exits, I agree) but the fact that she managed to get to the exit earlier and not meet Leia was a surprise. And there are just a lot of such moments to watch.
1. Find out where Ben gets the shampoo from which the hair is always soft and silky and does not burn in the fire from transformer oil.
2. Where Vader gets the polish for the helmet, so that even in the desert it constantly shines. I would have rubbed my Zhiguli.
Obi-Wan hides behind civilians in battle (even if this person was pro-imperial), seriously?! I understand that Kenobi has given up over the years, lost touch with the force, and doesn't trust people, but damn, this behavior is too much for a Jedi, even an ex.
Well, a pleasant surprise was the scene where the stormtrooper was cut in half by a laser, it's really unexpected to see this in Disney products, which usually try to make the Star Wars universe as toothless and refined as possible.
Mentioning Quinlan Vos in passing was pleasant, right now I'm reading the novel "The Dark Disciple" about this character and his cooperation with Asajj Ventress in an attempt to kill Dooku.
The fate of the former inquisitor is still unclear, because if he died, it contradicts the events in the cartoon "Rebels", where he died under different circumstances. It turns out that it's either a joint, or "Rebels" or "Obi-Wan Kenobi" in various degrees of canonicity. However, it has already happened that there is even less uniformity in the new Canon than in the Legends, and there are a lot of contradictions between films \ TV series\ cartoons\ books\ comics.
The meeting between Kenobi and Vader is certainly gorgeous, there's nothing you can do about it.
It's kind of sad, even weaker than Boba Fett, as for me. Cool groundwork, but what a vague implementation on all fronts. 🙈
Obi-Wan is sad, The Third sister is so completely, Leia and chase her — a-a-a-a! And Vader is some kind of caricatured evil, he inspires more in the Outcast. The graphics in general, and the editing are some kind of sidab. 😑
So far, the most interesting character is Dinesh (from Silicon Valley). I'd like to see/hear more of Palpatine, huh.
After this series, New Hope looks as illogical as possible.
And even more disturbing is the fact that the checkpoint could have been EASILY BYPASSED.
Here, Vader still has a fresh memory of how he burned in lava on Mustafar, and therefore the "fight" went exactly this way. And Vader is not as strong here as in E-4, he has honed his dark skills over the years.
And getting to know Leia here just looks very logical against the background of the message embedded in R2D2, when Leia asks Kenobi for help in a New Hope.
The tunnel didn't bother me. I don't know how the Third Sister figured out where the ending was (scanned by force?), but she clearly went there on top (jumping by force? well, or parkour), killed the pilot and waited for Leia.
That's why the scene with myrnyak was strange...although it had a logical grain... perhaps Weida just wanted to mock Obi, at his impotence...over principles, knowing that he won't answer. On the other hand, it doesn't fit into the concept of the classic Vader from the original...rather, in the concept of his psychopathic granddaughter from the new trilogy.
In general, by episode 3, I understand more and more that Disney wants to merge the memory of the prequels as well...Well done, Disney che...Let's clap standing up. (emotion of sadness)
Of course, it's hard to squeeze a full-fledged story between episode 3 and 4 into the Procrustean bed of the canon, but bl... everyone knows what's going to happen next, why did they make this meeting LIKE THIS?
Exhausted, messing up, insecure, and distrustful Obi-Wan... well, understandable, but still kind of weird.
Actually, I liked how Leia and Kenobi met, and it became much clearer to me why Leia sent R2D2 to him in Episode 4.
I'm tormented by this question:
The third Sister (damn her) came up with a plan to lure Obi-Wan out with the help of Senator Organa's child, finding a connection between them in the archives (what kind of archives, and what kind of connection is indicated there?!), the plan worked, they were tracked down on this planet, Vader flew after Kenobi. HOW is it that the archives indicate a connection between a girl and a Jedi, but Vader doesn't dream that the girl is his daughter?
I understand why he doesn't feel it. Both Luke and Leia's Strength showed up late. But how did it happen that the Empire found out the notorious "connection", but did not find out that Leia was Anakin's daughter?
And the attitude towards Senator Organa.
Who he crossed paths with during the Clone Wars.
The documents remained. 🤷🏽♂️
in episode 4, when he caught Leia, he didn't feel it either, because then Lucas didn't even think that Leia was Luke's sister) and then they decided to do this twist anyway, but not to return to Vader-Leia, because it would be illogical that he felt Luke, but Leia wasn't there now. It needs to be explained
therefore, it is unlikely that we will see them in this series (
Even though I'm not a fan of ZV, and I just wanted to watch an entertaining series, but here even I'm shocked.
Did they apply any sanctions at all to my sister for killing my boss? They didn't even deduct it from your salary?
Is there Indian resistance in the empire?
Obi-wan's beard wasn't even burnt.
Yes, there is a moment that everything should have been a level higher, but in fact, everything can be understood.
we are shown a broken Obi-Wan, he blamed himself for what happened for 10 years, did not train, hid, lost all hope (this is perfectly shown in the scene where he refused to help the Jedi)
They're making a good drama where Kenobi found out that Anakin is alive
, he's still trying to recover from it, for all 10 years he was sure he killed him! and he became a monster. his beloved padawan, brother, friend, kills children (both women and children))). He's in shock.
he is weak, he has not held a sword in his hand for 10 years, he barely caught Leia, because only in a moment of adrenaline could he use Force.
Anakin is angry, he is very strong, but his body and all these procedures remind him every day of what he has experienced, he hates his teacher and will hate him until death, as we have seen in the movies
Catch him and beat him up at your base? It's easy for so many years of resentment, he'll make him suffer too, so he just let him go, so he calmly followed him without using even a third of his strength.
I don't understand, what does everyone want to see? A battle like on Mustafar? until that happens, imagine how a person can change in 10 years, especially if they are broken and depressed. Here, both Vader and Kenobi are like that, each reflected it in their own way.
I like the series. these wanderings, emotions, when Obie looks at the smart little Leia, who is always fighting for justice and sees Padme in her 💔
Everything is going great for me.
the only thing is, this is already a shoal of movies, it's such a pity that they didn't reveal that Leia was also Anakin's daughter, the films focused on Luke, and he only recognized Luke there, not his daughter (when they caught Leia in episode 4, he didn't feel anything, because the writers had already done a twist with Leia in the next films)
it means that we are unlikely to see their interaction here, but it would have turned out to be a good drama. 🥲
in general, I enjoy my favorite characters very much) many people compare it to the Mandalorian, yes, the series is gorgeous, but it's also very measured and epic things didn't happen there mostly in the initial episodes, so I don't know) I watch the series with the expectation of seeing drama, which was not enough between episodes, everything really suits me) This is not Rey, who has been a super Jedi since day one, but Obi-Wan, who has gone through a difficult moral path and is experiencing the consequences of his own mistakes.
Aaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!
It was sad to hear about Obi-Wan's answers about Leia's mother.
Darth Vader.... Interestingly, he doesn't want to kill his former teacher right away, perhaps torment him before the end and find out about Padme's last moments?
He's also: 3 clones + an officer who haven't even left the amphibious airship yet — well, that's it, I give up, there are too many of you,
when the battle of Obi-wan and Vader was filmed, Ewen stood and prepared for filming. Vader ran up to him from behind, Ewen turned around and was like, Fuck!scared 😱 🤣
"I am what you made me."