Wow!!! Poor Oliver ((( I didn't quite understand about the card Sam's son is in Alice's bag. Did she get it and then switch with someone else? Or is it Mabel's bag? Because Mabel kind of left with the map. Actually, the theory that it's someone close to you is pretty good, but... They're trying to confuse us, aren't they?) It's just that Alice suddenly appeared)))
@CoffeeGirl: I reviewed that moment with the map. like Alice's bag. and there was the same matchbox in the map that Mabel found? still, it will be strange if this one is too predictable, in my opinion.
Alice is hardly a murderer, because a) the killer is most likely a man (in the last episode in the tunnel he coughed + the physique seems to be male, and in this series it seems to be a man on camera recordings too) and b) Alice has an iPhone, Apple does not allow iPhones to be taken in the hands of bad characters 🤓
@mblom: well, usually in such series they make straight fat hints, they say there was a man there, he coughed, I remember that. but it may turn out that this is not the killer, and he was there for a completely different reason. And I certainly don't want Alice to turn out to be a murderer. just as always, they throw a lot of hints, we will all be sure who the killer is, and they will turn out to be a completely unexpected character))))
@mblom: I'll insert 5 kopecks) Alice has the same straight hoarseness in her voice? That's like a man coughing, plus, specially dressed like this. But it looks too obvious)
@mblom: On account of b, not always. there is the TV series Fatal Patrol (2019), and the movie Santa Hunt (2020), and in them the antagonists used an apple tablet and laptop
Sam's map is there. She took the blonde's card from someone, and crumpled Sam's card into her purse. Interestingly, Mabel should know that Sam was Alice, there are only two of them left. Apparently, she did not pay attention to all the events
@Darzik: there was a question from someone, how do they know it's not Oliver Sam's son? Even if he didn't have a map, we didn't see Mabel's map either.
@Darzik: interestingly, it seemed to me right away that Mabel was Sam's son, because after the first round she immediately pointed at Charles to distract attention
This is a twist, no one expected that Oliver's son was not his son, but Tim's son! Sad of course And the heroine of Kara is just pulling the killer's veil over herself more and more. It will be a pity for Mabel in this case( I really enjoy Charles's communication with the bassoonist from prison ahahah
Yeah, Oliver is a pity (I liked how they picked up an actor for the role of young Oliver, it was very similar. And the game itself in this version of the Mafia is cool: especially how they all felt in the 70s, costumes, hairstyles)
I didn't expect that this was Tim's son, what would happen next... I'm glad that our girls are discussing everything among themselves, Kara and Selena are such beauties at the party!!
Finally, Oliver is revealed. I'm worried that Jen will hurt Savage again;( They are able to introduce something shocking and unexpected at the end of the series, absolutely smoothly.
That's really what I didn't expect, so it's that Oliver's son is not really his son, or rather not even his at all. It's terrible... and to be honest, I can't get rid of the fact that Kara may be involved in all this. Of murder. The opposite has not yet been proven 😊 Charles and an unhealthy relationship with Jen as a separate kind of highlight 😄
I will express an unpopular opinion, but it seems to me that Alice is being pointed out TOO actively, which means that she is unlikely to be a murderer. Like, that wouldn't be in the spirit of the show.
A separate rofl of the series is Charles's communication with Jen, this is such a meme, of course hd
@laura_grey: Well, why isn't it popular right away? I think so too. Then everything would be too obvious. Well, they can't make so many hints that she turns out to be a murderer. Where is the intrigue then? They're just trying to confuse you, and the killer turns out to be someone you wouldn't even think of)
The series is super! It was interesting to watch the card game, the shock content about Oliver's NON-son, it's a pity that he didn't know this before (Communicating with a bassoonist won't do any good....
It seems that there was a bold allusion to fathers and children. Is the killer someone's son/daughter/relative? Over there, Savage's dad was rocking with the artist. I wonder if they're going to repeat the trick of the first season when everyone was thinking about Jen, then decided it couldn't be that obvious, but in the end it turned out that it could. Just here with Alice
I don't understand something, half a season has passed, and there is no sign of Tina Fey's competing podcast, although the news promised and in the finale of the first season it could be assumed that he would play a prominent role. Well, at least the fans are back, that's a plus.
According to the build from the camera, it looks like it's Oliver's son. I hope that's not the case. On the other hand, Alice is very suspicious of both this card and the match.boxes. It seems to me that they are both involved in the murder.
I'm really sorry about Oliver. I really liked the way he revealed Sam's Son. But I didn't see the main thing. :((
Why doesn't anyone think that Kara is a relative of the deceased artist and she's in cahoots with some son of Bunny who needs money… In short, Kara is definitely not a performer, but quite an accomplice)
But I wonder why they are so actively trying to frame them, planting evidence? Maybe it's their podcast competitors, like they solve a crime in a podcast, frame them, and get rid of the competition in this way? In such a situation, the ratings should be top Because if this were a real criminal, it would be easier to find an easier scapegoat than to mess with this restless trio.
Please consider my version. One of the fans is not surprised by the secret passages in Arkonia, because he works there (cleans from mold, as he put it). At the same time, we know that his daughter came out. Further, during the exposure, Alice says that she is the daughter of a plumber. Maybe she had been in the dungeons of this man after all? She probably knew about the painting.
1. As Jen said, this season he is trying very hard to get closer to our detectives. 2. He was trying to transfer suspicion to the new house manager. 3. He coughed like a man in a tunnel. 4. Fanny recognized her killer when she opened the door.
I wonder if I didn't know that in America there used to be an analogue of the mafia - Son of Sam, or was this game invented specifically for the series?
@lyubanya_movies: The game was invented for the series, and there are usually several killers in the mafia, here they were more likely based on some local game about finding a killer.
It's a very strange line with this game, all of a sudden they show us that Oliver reads people perfectly, although of course I vaguely remember the first season, but it didn't seem to be demonstrated even once. And in the old game, he figured out the killer at an early stage of the game, but now everyone was killed, only Mabel and Alice remained, while it was also unclear what Alice was hoping for when replacing her card, apparently the fact that Mabel would stupidly not look at her own. The scenario of the series is very weak
So they start putting pressure on the fact that the killer is a village, so it's definitely not her. Even with the account of cards and matches, too axe and lobeshnik.
A series from Villa's face! I didn't even expect that. Also Oliver in the 70s, well, the heat in general. the actor is smart. And he was such a good father and observant for a long time. I don't know, I think he read both Savage and Mabel very clearly in the first season, even periodically. Not Lightman, but they have their own skills.
- Are you crazy? - Officially? Alas, no XD Oh, for me, this meeting with Jen in prison, the maniacs of the whole state in her background are just animators of a children's matinee, Amy Ryan fantastically plays this sociopath. Still perverted as Hungary, that's what the guy got into addiction to...
"You remember being a popular TV star, and I remember switching Brazzes, it's worth listening to the case of Ivan vs Condors" XD Oliver трол trolls Charles 24-7.
"I'm afraid I'll talk to people if I talk to them. My Favorite Social phobe, as I understand you.
Bring the buzzers drugs and Mafia games, and Putnam is a great toastmaster. And Alice, as it turned out, just came up with a rich life for herself, Shob pictures were bought, well, what a killer of hers in general.
From which I flew away like many people: Willie is not Oliver's son! His father is stupid Teddy his mother is Dimas! It's like, it's what, it's why... It's terrible, how sorry we are for our theatrical bun.
Every time I forget to write: how I get away from this absolutely New York New York, it's as good old-school as it is from movies and TV shows of the 90s.
I don't know why they decided to make Will Teddy's son??! Maybe this will turn out to be an incredibly important detail in the plot, but still sad for Oliver and his son, who is no longer his son. In general, I really liked the scene in which they played: the atmosphere of New York in the 80s and their images. I watched season 1 the other day and realized that they still hadn't told us who had left a note on Jan's door: "I'm watching you." Maybe they'll show it again this season, maybe it's even the same Bonnie killer. I'm also not sure if I like Charles being set up with Jan again. I'm glad to see the actress returning, but again it's in the role of a love interest - I don't even know.🤔 In general, I really like this season! I am waiting for the disclosure of this mystery.
11:14 a.m.- "Kids, rush hour is coming, and the tunnel will be packed like Orson Welles' gut." Google didn't help, who understood? We need an explanatory team. A hint of his obesity?
@Makcumko: Most likely, this is a hint (I didn't watch it myself, but I read on Wikipedia) to the Orson Welles film "Too much Johnson", which had not been shown before and was considered lost forever, but was found somewhere in Italy in 2008 and first shown (which is also noted on the Film Search also) on October 9th, 2013. An event that is bright enough and significant enough for the cinematographic society for Oliver to become so smart. There must have been a lot of hype in the States. Education for those who are interested at the same time. Too much = (including) too much. The tunnel will be too clogged. I don't know exactly what it was like in the original text, but it definitely had to be too much. Maybe there was even an adaptive translation.
When it came to the family tree and there was this off-screen chatter on behalf of his son, I immediately thought that it would probably turn out that they were not related. But I didn't expect such a setup. Wow! Poor Oliver...
Now it's clear why Oscar was quickly and incomprehensibly leaked there, it was necessary to add the Delavigne character somehow, but apart from hissing the two girls in a different way and in no way ... With the fans, it was clumsy in a cafe....🤦🏼♀️🙈 That the charm of the first season was lost and some kind of relationship drama began🥴
OH SH*T! Wow. Dimas didn't come back for nothing, it turns out, ha-ha-ha-ha! It was immediately clear when the family tree and DNA test flashed in the series, but who the father was, it became clear only at the end ...))) Damn, this is, of course. Oliver is not a perfect father anyway, and then this is not his son... What does it feel like for a son who seemed to be looking for his father's favor and love, to find out that his father did not know that he was not his ... The advertisement for Dimass sauces cried after such a discovery! The guy who played young Oliver played him perfectly, I wasn't even sure if Oliver Sr. was voicing, the intonations were so similar. Actually, here I realized that I had underestimated this character all the previous season and a half. In general, the man who talked to Bunny in the cafe really looks like Oliver's son in figure.
Even before watching the episode today, I thought that they had secret passages all over the house, and I wondered yesterday how Bunny got into Mabel's apartment. And here she has an entrance right into the dressing room...
Jen calls from prison and consults, vua-ha-ha! Well, the game in general is that she scares Charles right out of prison. You remember all these stories that women send love letters to serial men in prison, but here on the contrary: she is seductive in her confidence that he will not be able to refuse her (read: narcissus), and he is such a lamb to the slaughter (in principle, that's why she chose him, because he is harmless, quiet and lonely). And how is it that she is not legally recognized as crazy??? She?!?!?!
In the end, was Alice the Son of Sam? Was there a map in her bag? Like she had two of them? (I didn't look at the matches, I only saw them in the comments, but did Mabel tell her everything? Or are these Mabel's things?)
I laughed at the fans in the cafe, of course. I see that we are here in the comments purely like them!
And another comment, with her own version: the artist who painted the portrait of Brazzos's father, and slept with him, mysteriously disappeared so that her paintings could be sold. This Alice also invented a disguise for herself so that the paintings would sell. This Alice could be her granddaughter (and Brazzos' niece?). That's the idea I have. The series clearly pushes the idea that everything is in our blood/DNA: for example, because Oliver's son is not Oliver's son, therefore he does not have the skills to stage performances.
When the series first started, I immediately had the idea in my head that he was not Oliver's son... but it was so sad when it was confirmed at the end 🥺 it was clear how his world had collapsed😟
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78Sad of course
And the heroine of Kara is just pulling the killer's veil over herself more and more. It will be a pity for Mabel in this case(
I really enjoy Charles's communication with the bassoonist from prison ahahah
I'm glad that our girls are discussing everything among themselves, Kara and Selena are such beauties at the party!!
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- Charles, are we okay?
- Are you crazy?!
- Legally? If only...😄😄😄
JEN: - These are the details!
😂😂😂
Mabel: Guys, please be normal.
😄😄😄😄
Selena and Kara are cuties💙
They are able to introduce something shocking and unexpected at the end of the series, absolutely smoothly.
and to be honest, I can't get rid of the fact that Kara may be involved in all this. Of murder. The opposite has not yet been proven 😊
Charles and an unhealthy relationship with Jen as a separate kind of highlight 😄
A separate rofl of the series is Charles's communication with Jen, this is such a meme, of course hd
I wonder if they're going to repeat the trick of the first season when everyone was thinking about Jen, then decided it couldn't be that obvious, but in the end it turned out that it could. Just here with Alice
Well, at least the fans are back, that's a plus.
I hope that's not the case.
On the other hand, Alice is very suspicious of both this card and the match.boxes. It seems to me that they are both involved in the murder.
I'm really sorry about Oliver. I really liked the way he revealed Sam's Son. But I didn't see the main thing. :((
Charles and Jen 😁 Yes, yes
In short, Kara is definitely not a performer, but quite an accomplice)
Because if this were a real criminal, it would be easier to find an easier scapegoat than to mess with this restless trio.
1. As Jen said, this season he is trying very hard to get closer to our detectives.
2. He was trying to transfer suspicion to the new house manager.
3. He coughed like a man in a tunnel.
4. Fanny recognized her killer when she opened the door.
The scenario of the series is very weak
A series from Villa's face! I didn't even expect that. Also Oliver in the 70s, well, the heat in general. the actor is smart. And he was such a good father and observant for a long time. I don't know, I think he read both Savage and Mabel very clearly in the first season, even periodically. Not Lightman, but they have their own skills.
- Are you crazy?
- Officially? Alas, no XD
Oh, for me, this meeting with Jen in prison, the maniacs of the whole state in her background are just animators of a children's matinee, Amy Ryan fantastically plays this sociopath. Still perverted as Hungary, that's what the guy got into addiction to...
"You remember being a popular TV star, and I remember switching Brazzes, it's worth listening to the case of Ivan vs Condors" XD
Oliver трол trolls Charles 24-7.
"I'm afraid I'll talk to people if I talk to them.
My Favorite Social phobe, as I understand you.
Bring the buzzers drugs and Mafia games, and Putnam is a great toastmaster.
And Alice, as it turned out, just came up with a rich life for herself, Shob pictures were bought, well, what a killer of hers in general.
From which I flew away like many people: Willie is not Oliver's son! His father is stupid Teddy his mother is Dimas! It's like, it's what, it's why... It's terrible, how sorry we are for our theatrical bun.
Every time I forget to write: how I get away from this absolutely New York New York, it's as good old-school as it is from movies and TV shows of the 90s.
In general, I really liked the scene in which they played: the atmosphere of New York in the 80s and their images.
I watched season 1 the other day and realized that they still hadn't told us who had left a note on Jan's door: "I'm watching you." Maybe they'll show it again this season, maybe it's even the same Bonnie killer.
I'm also not sure if I like Charles being set up with Jan again. I'm glad to see the actress returning, but again it's in the role of a love interest - I don't even know.🤔
In general, I really like this season! I am waiting for the disclosure of this mystery.
Google didn't help, who understood? We need an explanatory team.
A hint of his obesity?
Too much = (including) too much. The tunnel will be too clogged. I don't know exactly what it was like in the original text, but it definitely had to be too much. Maybe there was even an adaptive translation.
But I didn't expect such a setup. Wow! Poor Oliver...
With the fans, it was clumsy in a cafe....🤦🏼♀️🙈 That the charm of the first season was lost and some kind of relationship drama began🥴
The advertisement for Dimass sauces cried after such a discovery!
The guy who played young Oliver played him perfectly, I wasn't even sure if Oliver Sr. was voicing, the intonations were so similar. Actually, here I realized that I had underestimated this character all the previous season and a half.
In general, the man who talked to Bunny in the cafe really looks like Oliver's son in figure.
Even before watching the episode today, I thought that they had secret passages all over the house, and I wondered yesterday how Bunny got into Mabel's apartment. And here she has an entrance right into the dressing room...
Jen calls from prison and consults, vua-ha-ha! Well, the game in general is that she scares Charles right out of prison. You remember all these stories that women send love letters to serial men in prison, but here on the contrary: she is seductive in her confidence that he will not be able to refuse her (read: narcissus), and he is such a lamb to the slaughter (in principle, that's why she chose him, because he is harmless, quiet and lonely).
And how is it that she is not legally recognized as crazy??? She?!?!?!
In the end, was Alice the Son of Sam? Was there a map in her bag? Like she had two of them? (I didn't look at the matches, I only saw them in the comments, but did Mabel tell her everything? Or are these Mabel's things?)
I laughed at the fans in the cafe, of course. I see that we are here in the comments purely like them!
but it was so sad when it was confirmed at the end 🥺 it was clear how his world had collapsed😟