dotcomrunet

02 Sep 2022, 09:39 #

So the doctors should have just left people to die in this hell? Or what? They were forcibly kicked out of the hospital. The legislation in the USA is funny.

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fs_ann

13 Oct 2022, 20:13 #

Well, you know, at such moments I remember the movie "Mist", namely the last 5 minutes. The most powerful tragic ending, which calls into question such a humane, seemingly, solution to the situation.

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id57170909

03 Jan 2023, 21:59 #

@fs_ann: Yes! I also remembered about him. And I didn't really understand: they were being kicked out, but they didn't even ask this guard for help to take everyone out. After all, there was a place!

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PRO

02 Sep 2022, 12:07 #

It is very interesting that journalists are trying to plant doctors, accusing them of murdering patients (I do not want to justify doctors in their actions now), who were already on the verge of life and death. Of course, it's a pity, but where were the authorities when they survived 5 days in this hospital??? Without drinking water, food and other medicines that the patients needed!! This is kind of absurd. Honestly. You said yourself that this is a large hospital and the 45 deceased patients are quite real. So think for yourself, how many patients have they saved??? Ten times more! All the victims are on the conscience of the authorities, not the poor doctors who faced such a disaster for the first time!

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anastasialeal

02 Sep 2022, 12:11 #

Even after the focus has shifted from the hospital chaos to the investigation, the series holds the bar, and the interrogation scenes are all in suspense.
Laws and those who implement them almost never take into account the circumstances of what happened, because everything is just the law - there is also punishment. The question of doctors' humanity towards their patients remains open, and everyone will decide for himself what should have been done, but what is really inhumane is how the authorities shamelessly left thousands of people just to die, and weeks later they began to talk about the analysis of what happened.

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Rielsey

02 Sep 2022, 15:21 #

Where the authorities were is the main question of all episodes of this series.

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anyano

PRO

02 Sep 2022, 16:05 #

I don't understand either, but what were they supposed to do? They did not have a protocol for this case, the authorities threw them, they were told you were not a priority for all requests for help, wait a bit, I suspect that the elevator to the roof still exists, but there was no electricity, how were they supposed to deliver large and seriously ill patients to the roof? A teleporter or something ? Or just leave people to die slowly without food and water? I understand that the law does not take into account all the circumstances, but the investigator would think how would he want to die in his sleep or lie down for a week to slowly die without medication, oxygen, and even suffering from thirst, heat and hunger?

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It_is_different

02 Sep 2022, 16:21 #

In the end, doctors would still be made extreme, no matter what decision they made in that situation. They gave killer injections, left patients to die - killers. The feeling that the doctors had to swim on their humps to drag them to a safe place. And once again, they showed the corporate essence perfectly: send written questions, hire security for a destroyed hospital, refuse to help a doctor, and so on..

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Acritas

08 Sep 2022, 18:07 #

@It_is_different: even from the first series, they don't need to send helicopters, they will cope on their own (from the management company). And all this could have been avoided.

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MessiFanatka

02 Sep 2022, 19:17 #

Farmiga in this series looks like a young Gillian Anderson, or rather it is the image of Dana Scully))))

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like_a_cat

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18 Jun 2023, 10:51 #

@MessiFanatka: when I caught a glimpse of the poster of this series, at first I just thought it was Gillian) and then the whole viewing I couldn't leave the feeling that it was Scully 😅

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zzz_203

PRO

02 Sep 2022, 20:10 #

I am sure that if they left the patients and they suffered and suffered, they would also be condemned...
terribly...

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2017Olivia

02 Sep 2022, 23:09 #

I'm not a doctor. But when a doctor condemns a doctor for such a situation, I do not understand. In fact, they condemn themselves, they were on the verge like the others, they could have resisted these "murders", but how could they have helped so many patients? To stand over them with fans for several more days without water and food, looking at their last torments? . They understood their helplessness, and the helplessness of Anna and the nurses, but unlike them they would have given a painful death to their patients. I found the full story on the Internet, I wonder how it will be shown in the series

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Xensoriiix

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03 Sep 2022, 12:04 #

As always, the doctors are to blame for everything… Under stress, being hungry, tortured, in complete despair, they dared not save everyone like superheroes
The strangest thing is that those doctors who were in the same situation begin to pour accusations, they did nothing themselves, but they attacked others. According to the logic of this pregnant woman, Anna generally had to lift a 170 kg man with the power of thought and evacuate

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rid86

03 Sep 2022, 12:22 #

@Itz_sadness: It is understandable that she has such a reaction after stress when she worked there and took care of all those patients in the nursing home, and here is such a situation and they tell her that they will not be able to save them and we will put them to sleep. Perhaps in the future, when she gets over this shock, she and maybe other doctors will also understand Anna and the other sisters who helped with this, that they did everything they could and even helped at least in this way.

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Soon1304

03 Sep 2022, 20:31 #

After watching this episode, I had two impressions.

Anna doesn't look like a sociopath. She deeply felt the pain of everyone, and after that, in another hospital, she treats her patients like a human being.

I think those who accuse her are very cruel people! If you are so good, then you would have stayed and defended the lives of these patients. Otherwise, they left themselves, and others just had to do a very difficult thing, but only in order to help.

On the other hand, it seems to me that if they injected it into people in their minds and with possible chances of survival, it is also too much, but in a different way. Trying to help everyone, the line blurred and those who still had a chance could be killed.

It is very interesting whether that obese patient died in the nursing home - since he is the very patient who had a chance (judging by the way he held on these days, the only thing he could not get up)

And these bigwigs, who look so calm and innocent, say that someone exceeded their authority there when you did everything to make people die, and not the other way around - just kills. Didn't they take away doctors by force and leave bedridden patients alone unattended, forced their daughter to leave her mother - this is like normal, not exceeding official authority?

I'm trying to understand the logic of these people, but I can't do it - some kind of paradox of cruelty.

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snorkelle

04 Sep 2022, 17:44 #

And yet it is unclear why the doctors decided to kill animals first, then people. Leaving them no chance of survival. What if rescuers would have arrived the next day? And anyway, is it possible to dispose of someone else's life without a request? It was possible to explain the situation to people and they themselves would make a decision - to die slowly in the hope that they would still be saved, or get an injection. But this is how to decide for others that it would be better for them to die... Well, that's it.

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zzz_203

PRO

05 Sep 2022, 11:59 #

@snorkelle: well, we don't really know what it was like...it's not that simple yet... I still hope that the doctors did exactly that after the conversation, and not decided for the patients themselves ...🤔

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helggaolgga

21 May 2023, 10:48 #

@snorkelle: It's illegal in this state. So she asked, the man refused, got out of the hospital and then sued her for attempted murder (?). Therefore, from her position, it is better not to tell a person.

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HhVvk

07 Sep 2022, 00:23 #

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aprkhrva

07 Sep 2022, 03:00 #

And I like it, a very beautiful screen saver )

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gevsi

09 Sep 2022, 13:10 #

I think it was murder, no matter what sauce it was served with. It was not for the doctors to decide who should live, but who should be given a ticket to the next world.

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sanaeva

17 Oct 2023, 12:47 #

@gevsi: It was literally up to them to decide, they were saving people.

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former_buddy

PRO

13 Sep 2022, 17:05 #

It's very hard to watch because of conflicting emotions. On the one hand, doctors acted terribly when they injected people who could still survive, but on the other hand, it was terrible and just to leave helpless patients alone for an unknown amount of time, who could not take care of themselves in any way, could suffer for a long time before dying.
It burns very much because of the actions of the authorities, which means that at first they could not organize an adequate evacuation, and in the future they condemn all decisions that were taken as soon as possible in a desperate situation.

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dashitjeeves

18 Sep 2022, 09:36 #

In general, as in any disgrace of the state or a large company, you need to find someone as a scapegoat

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dashitjeeves

18 Sep 2022, 10:17 #

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karinabuzia

PRO

20 Sep 2022, 13:10 #

I really like to judge doctors who have been one-on-one with the elements for 5 days, and not the management, who sat and did nothing.
I don't justify lethal injection.
These doctors and the management of the nursing home also did not organize the evacuation of their palliative patients in any way.

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mariacara

21 Sep 2022, 01:46 #

To be honest, I was surprised that suddenly everyone from the nursing home took and took responsibility for their patients. These are essentially two different organizations. Again, why didn't they try to get anywhere themselves, so that they would be evacuated in the same way.

And in general, some kind of strange building management and notification system inside it, that they did not know anything about what was happening below...

Well, it's sad to realize that many protocols and almost all rules (of the road, for example) are written in human blood. Alas

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SemperAdMeliora

PRO

17 Oct 2022, 01:16 #

Началось самое интересное - объяснения и расследования того что произошло

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fairwind

21 Jan 2023, 20:18 #

Самые хитрые - это владельцы дома престарелых (я не про персонал), эти умыли руки с самого начала и даже не пытались помочь своим "клиентам" (с родственников которых деньги брали исправно, небось и от государства еще какие дотации получали), а теперь будут пытаться все свалить на врачей больницы, чтобы их самих родственники не засудили за то, что бросили их родных. И все так - все прикрывают свою пятую точку, все бояться взять на себя ответственность, а крайними оказываются врачи. Да, возможно, они были не правы, но эти люди не спали, не ели и страдали от обезвоживания и перегрева 3 последних дня, в таком состоянии немудрено принять неверное решение.

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Viki0135vv

14 Feb 2023, 16:03 #

Very heavy series … I believe that no matter what Anna did, she is very strong and courageous, because even if she did euthanasia, not everyone would have the spirit... Here we are talking about the fact that serious patients would be left alone in an abandoned hospital without food, water and medicines.. And here it is not known what would be worse, because they would die in agony. I really hope that the investigators and those who will deal with this issue will put themselves in the place of doctors and think 1000 times before passing any sentence.

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Euphoria_meow

15 Mar 2023, 21:11 #

Анна отдала Эммету банку тунца и крекеры, которые она в первой серии взяла с собой….она очень даже человечная и старалась облегчить всем страдания.
Жалко её :(

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helggaolgga

21 May 2023, 10:52 #

Если та умирающая старая женшина таки умерла, то ее дочь тоже модет подать в суд, ведь ее принудили силой бросить мать вследствие чего та умерла.

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Vi_K

26 Sep 2023, 22:02 #

Ох…но, валите все на врачей. А то , что всем остальным, особенно власти было похер на людей , никто не задается вопросом.

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Olga_Shuber

29 Dec 2023, 13:05 #

Как мило ... льют слезки, сокрушаясь о том, что мол, "пациентов убили", но сами же стали молчаливыми соучастниками всего этого. Да, не вы вводили смертельные дозы, но знали, что происходит, просто закрыли глаза на все и ничего не сделали...

Так легко сливать своих коллег, когда сами все видели и понимали...

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vk425272

03 Jan 23:59 #

@Olga_Shuber: я тоже об этом подумала. Доктор афроамериканец: я не мог ничего сказать поэтому решил уйти 🤦 Ну молодец, чё 🤣 Ты ж врач, ты клятву Гиппократа давал, собрался и ушёл. Интересно, если б все ушли от пациентов?

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Sergey01r

PRO

28 Feb 12:26 #

С одной стороны - когда из больницы уезжали лодки, их главный сказал - Уходим, кто остался - те сами по себе. Т.е. был вариант остаться в больнице, но без помощи. С другой стороны - прилетали вертолеты, приходили лодки. Из больницы они шли с людьми, обратно - пустые. Почему нельзя было загрузить ту же воду и какую то еду в больницу? Почему нельзя было привезти аккумуляторы для приборов и забрать разряженные?? Больше убеждаюсь, что в такой ситуации все просто сами по себе - пациенты сами, врачи сами, головная контора сама, дом престарелых сам, даже нацгвардия и та сама

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Kalindе

29 Mar 10:19 #

The same question arose, why did they not bring food and water on empty boats to leave for those who remain waiting?

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Released:	02.09.2022^{02.09.2022 15:00}
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