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Better Call Saul — s06e09 — Fun and Games

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Duration: 50 min.
Released: 18.07.202219.07.2022 04:00
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6 season
s06e09
s06e05 - Black and Blue
s06e06 - Axe and Grind
s06e07 - Plan and Execution
s06e08 - Point and Shoot
s06e09 - Fun and Games
s06e10 - Nippy
s06e11 - Breaking Bad
s06e12 - Waterworks
s06e13 - Saul Gone

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Gibbons
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18 Jul 2022, 09:33 #
I can't believe that there are only 4 episodes, and the end. The whole revel will go away. I will enjoy every second of the latest episodes. I will pause and rewind the scenes to stretch.
I felt very sad somehow, brothers.
I hope that the creators will shoot a separate El Camino about Sol. They just have to do it, because Saul is sure to have many more adventures in the future.
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brockway
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18 Jul 2022, 14:14 #
Don't be upset. Recently I read that they can still shoot something in the universe of "Breaking Bad". But I think it's time to stop there. Although I don't really want to, it's sad somehow) since 2008, this whole story has been going on
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btmn
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19 Jul 2022, 11:22 #
@Gibbons: This series is "a separate El Camino about Sol". Why would the creators make another series about Saul if they can tell everything they want about this character in this?
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vs40
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19 Jul 2022, 12:16 #
@Gibbons: El Camino revealed Jesse's fate after the BB events.
Here we were periodically shown the fate of Sol after the events of BB in b /w scenes where he lay low.
In the remaining episodes, there will probably be more emphasis on these events and the arc of Sol will be closed, so there is no special point in a separate film on Sol, everything necessary will be shown in the remaining 4 episodes.
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antons
antons
19 Jul 2022, 13:40 #
@Gibbons: Well, yes, El Camino is more about making sense after a while. So if this happens about Saul, it will only happen years later, if the authors suddenly decide that they missed something. For example, if the arch about Kim was closed in this series (but it will be very sad), then it will be possible to dedicate Solovsky El Camino to her.

But the level of the story is so high that I doubt there are any omissions.
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syedin
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19 Jul 2022, 20:58 #
The animated series about Sol's childhood was released
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Незнайка_на_Луне
Незнайка_на_Луне
19 Jul 2022, 21:07 #
@syedin: Not Sola, Jimmy (it would seem, what's the difference?😄), but it's such a children's cartoon that it's not worth watching, although it's short, if you don't mind an hour of time spent, then you can watch it.
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syedin
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19 Jul 2022, 21:10 #
Understood, thank you )
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Ctixia
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22 Jul 2022, 21:11 #
@syedin: can you tell me what it's called? The news is easily googled, but the name is not specified...
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Незнайка_на_Луне
Незнайка_на_Луне
22 Jul 2022, 21:33 #
@Ctixia: Better Call Saul presents: Slippin' Jimmy

https://t.lafa.site/multfilm/Zarubezhnie-multfilmi/paduchiy-dzhimmi.htm
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Langly
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23 Jul 2022, 19:50 #
@Ctixia: it is better to protect yourself in all ways from watching this masterpiece.
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calliisto
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18 Jul 2022, 22:43 #
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oleg2101
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19 Jul 2022, 06:23 #
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_ArxAngel_
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25 Jul 2022, 01:52 #
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the episode aired 19.07.2022
apb48
apb48
19 Jul 2022, 08:03 #
The transition, from the end of Kim's most difficult conversation with Jimmy, the creaking of the locks on Kim's suitcase, and then Saul wakes up in bed with a prostitute. It was funny and unexpected.That's how Jimmy turned into Saul.
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peacefulginger
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17 Aug 2022, 01:34 #
@apb48: It was scotch.
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Langly
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19 Jul 2022, 10:43 #
Another public masturbator? Which one?

Well, what is it, the one with whom you will confuse Brandon Mayhew aka Badger, Sol.
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btmn
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19 Jul 2022, 11:05 #
@Langly: now I think Sola is expecting a visit from "Mr. Mayhew" in the next episode
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Langly
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19 Jul 2022, 11:14 #
@btmn: with a high probability, yes. Unless they decide to make another timeskip before Jin's time.
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deneight
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26 Jul 2022, 17:42 #
@Langly: so Saul has a sticker on his car (insurance and technical inspection) from 2005, November. And they will meet Badger in 2008.
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vs40
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19 Jul 2022, 11:00 #
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vs40
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19 Jul 2022, 12:06 #
@vs40:

We are bad for each other...
Together we are poison...

Apparently they decided to breed them without additional action, as many, including me, had previously assumed and built theories that she would be pulled out through a vacuum cleaner seller.
It seems that she will just leave everything and go to her Nebraska, realizing how destructive her connection with Saul is for her and those around her.

Everything is quite logical, but considering how this season has accelerated, I was hoping for a slightly more twisted denouement of the Kim arch.
But they can still surprise you a lot in b/w events that take place after Breaking Bad, so you shouldn't relax)
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id70201890
id70201890
19 Jul 2022, 15:04 #
@vs40: well, she already left, packing her bags for the flight by plane dragging them with tape
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vs40
vs40
19 Jul 2022, 20:27 #
@id70201890: yes, I posted the assumption with the photo during the viewing process, and the second comment after.
It's just that the creators of the series have already spoiled their associations and symbolism so much that you look for them in every dream)
But in part I was still right, she is not physically crippled, but mentally.
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vs40
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19 Jul 2022, 11:13 #
The scene in the direct and figurative sense of fire!
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j0ker123
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19 Jul 2022, 13:30 #
@vs40: hate in your eyes (C)
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Ctixia
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22 Jul 2022, 20:56 #
@vs40: This is an amazing shot!
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vs40
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19 Jul 2022, 11:22 #
Ding! Ding! Diin! Ding! Ding!
A real master of parody)
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_ArxAngel_
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25 Jul 2022, 01:54 #
I've reviewed this moment 3 times, because I have the same emotions from Hector 😁
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22_sum_910_nd
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01 Aug 2022, 13:50 #
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krasnienosochki
krasnienosochki
19 Jul 2022, 12:04 #
eh, we missed the most interesting (for me) period and immediately rewound forward to the familiar Sol
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antons
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19 Jul 2022, 13:45 #
@krasnienosochki: Yes, I would watch another season between these scenes. even if Saul is just doing business all this season, drinking coffee and sleeping.
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Alfonso
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24 Jul 2022, 15:13 #
@antons: A whole season of depressive Sol?
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mad1van
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20 Jul 2022, 19:34 #
Life. I was hoping to see more of Jimmy Saul's formative stages. And they stupidly made a timeskip here and that's it. 😭
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id70201890
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20 Jul 2022, 20:57 #
@mad1van: 6 seasons showed all the stages of Jimmy's formation in Sol, his youth, confrontation with his brother, and in the end, as a result of their games led to the death of a man, what else could they show?
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Bulat_Akhmetshin
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20 Jul 2022, 22:51 #
Buying an office, a house, a car and hundreds of shirts, apparently
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Mr_Knight
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22 Jul 2022, 04:08 #
@facelvega: Yes, I would watch a whole season about it. Considering what kind of directing is here, I'm not so crazy about some fights and dramas in TV series as I am about moments like "Mike disassembles the car" and "Mike throws sneakers" hd
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sfajrat
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22 Jul 2022, 16:40 #
@Mr_Knight: I understand you, but it would definitely look like a series of fillers. And Gilligan, as you know, is not about that at all.
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plizkin1
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19 Jul 2022, 12:04 #
An amazing series. It already feels like the real finale is ahead. And how beautifully they wrapped everything up, and there are still 4 episodes ahead, and it's hard to even guess what remains already. Bravo, bravo!
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zhosman-kinoman
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12 Mar 2023, 17:39 #
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Nog
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19 Jul 2022, 12:07 #
Let justice be done though the heavens fall.
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AlexWulf
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21 Jul 2022, 02:20 #
@Nog: Chuck used to say that phrase
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Alfonso
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24 Jul 2022, 15:14 #
@Nog: ding-ding-ding. only two hands)
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It_is_different
It_is_different
19 Jul 2022, 12:14 #
Is the wine tasting scene another hint in favor of Fring's theory of homosexuality?
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eytas
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19 Jul 2022, 12:24 #
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direwolf312
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19 Jul 2022, 12:46 #
Or Fring wanted to "continue" with the waiter, then remembered that the relationship makes him vulnerable, how he suffered after the murder of his close "friend and partner" and decided not to get involved in this case...
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j0ker123
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19 Jul 2022, 13:31 #
@eytas: I actually thought they would try to poison him.
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niggapig
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19 Jul 2022, 18:32 #
@direwolf312: I think he remembered that he wants to take revenge on Don Eladio. Which will happen in BB
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satanoid_dog
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17 Aug 2022, 20:50 #
@direwolf312: That was good, I wouldn't have thought of it.
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Arkasha696
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01 Dec 2023, 22:28 #
What was eventually done to his friend? They never told me for some reason
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VivienneHasket
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21 Dec 2023, 23:17 #
We were shown this in Breaking Bad, Hector shot his partner at the pool, Don Eladio. That's why Gus wanted to get back at Hector.
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Langly
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19 Jul 2022, 13:01 #
@It_is_different: a hint? Yes, they are almost saying it in plain text already)
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loko_legis
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20 Jul 2022, 00:32 #
@It_is_different: and I was the only one who thought that the waiter would now tell a story about Mount Tibidaba and a woman crying at the foot?))))
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seemonster
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20 Jul 2022, 04:50 #
@loko_legis: one-on-one is my thought:))
I just watched this particular series of friends about a week or two ago. A coincidence?
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htoniceskii
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20 Jul 2022, 16:16 #
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Mr_Knight
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22 Jul 2022, 04:07 #
@htoniceskii: Gustavo literally looked at him with hungry eyes and smiled all over his mouth, listening to him talk. And then he did, well, the most amazing thing, that he would like to continue the conversation in another place. Is this how people who are bored and want to get out of here as soon as possible behave? Perhaps, in this series, Gus appears AS human as possible in general for the entire series, I would even say vulnerable - even worse than when he was "called to the carpet" and felt right over a fresh wound.
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exterminate3
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22 Jul 2022, 20:34 #
it seems that even if Gus openly says that he is gay, some viewers will still start claiming that he is just trolling
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htoniceskii
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24 Jul 2022, 17:12 #
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blackorb
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21 Jul 2022, 02:32 #
@It_is_different: This is not a theory, it is a fact.
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MaxPlay
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24 Jul 2022, 12:00 #
Um, is there such a theory at all? ))
Well, when I saw him for the first time in the WWT, I also had such a thought, because of his habits, but no more. I don't remember any hints about the plot, and I don't remember anyone discussing it either..
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Ctixia
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24 Jul 2022, 13:13 #
@MaxPlay: It has been repeatedly discussed that Max, in whose honor he established the award, was his lover. And the creators of the series do not deny this either (although they do not directly confirm it).
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apb48
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19 Jul 2022, 12:23 #
The whole series consists of heavy emotional but much needed conversations and actions, except for the last few minutes. At the same time, almost everyone is involved in this.

It seemed to me that Eladio did not believe Fring. But he was satisfied with this situation, since Hector is disabled, Lalo has disappeared, and the twins clearly do not pull on a "leading and guiding role", which is why he gave part of the control from Salamanca to Fring. But at the same time, he clearly said - "The main thing is, do not forget who is in charge here."

Mike had a difficult conversation with Nacho's father about revenge and justice.

I felt sorry for Howard's wife when Kim lied to her, as she saw a year and a half ago, that he was using drugs.

Kim and Jimmy's last conversation is a separate topic for discussion. Kim - "We are harmful to each other."
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eytas
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19 Jul 2022, 12:26 #
@apb48: I really feel sorry for Howard, but his wife does not, before that it was shown that she did not appreciate him.
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Незнайка_на_Луне
Незнайка_на_Луне
19 Jul 2022, 20:46 #
@eytas: What does it mean that Cheryl (Howard's wife) didn't appreciate him? Yes, they had problems in the family, that's what Howard said, in the last scene, every second person in the world has such problems. But, after all, it is she who is trying to restore his honest name after death, it is she who is trying to prove that he was not a drug addict.
But then Kim got involved in time, with her version about drugs, and then tried to reassure Cheryl that she knows her husband best, thereby making her look like a complete fool. At the same time, Kim really wanted to calm her down, but it turned out the way it turned out, unfortunately it happens.
So I don't see why Howard's wife doesn't deserve sympathy? She's the worst.
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Scandias
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19 Jul 2022, 21:32 #
@Neznayka_na_Lune: Kim, it seems to me, did not want to calm anyone down. She knows that Howard was talking about problems in marriage, and indirectly put pressure on it, saying the opposite. Cheryl, because of her words, remembered that in fact she was not so close to her husband and really could have missed something. Sorry for her, yes.
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Незнайка_на_Луне
Незнайка_на_Луне
19 Jul 2022, 22:18 #
@Scandias: Well, I have my own vision. I don't think Kim is so cynical, she just initially saves herself and Jimmy (this is the main thing), it shows that she is trying to get out of the most difficult situation as comfortably as possible for everyone. But for Cheryl, it turned out just awful, and Kim understands perfectly well that she is definitely involved here.
I hope that everything will be fine for Kim in the future.
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Scandias
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19 Jul 2022, 23:35 #
@Dunno Moon: Yes, of course she was saving herself and Jimmy. It's just that the most effective method turned out to be cruel. It worked. And Kim liked that it worked, judging by the kiss. But, imho, the realization of all this became a sign for Kim that it was necessary to put an end to this.

I would like everything to be fine too. But for now, I hope that at least they will show it to us again)
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Nagaina713
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30 Jan 2023, 18:52 #
@Scandias: and it seemed to me that this kiss in the parking lot was saturated with some kind of despair, I also thought "kisses, as if saying goodbye.".. and that's what happened in the next scene.... I think Kim realized everything already at the end of the conversation with Howard's wife. I thought about it while we were going down in the elevator. And finally decided everything exactly before the kiss. She kissed me and left. It turned out quite symbolically.
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id2950794
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20 Jul 2022, 07:52 #
@apb48: Now Eladio thinks Hector went cuckoo) allegedly, Lalo called him after his death, blaming the chicken daddy, etc., etc.
Oh, how clever)
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strannikbaho
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29 Aug 2022, 18:38 #
@id2950794: It was shown here that Elladio understood everything perfectly, but considers Gustavo too useful to remove him. His phrase "-I saw hatred in your eyes. It is ok. The main thing is that you remember who is the boss here" says this more than clearly)
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brockway
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19 Jul 2022, 12:40 #
Wow... a great series. In the end, I was right on my nerves, I was very afraid for Kim.

It's very sad that everything turned out this way.
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TheHeretic
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19 Jul 2022, 12:57 #
So the moment of Jimmy's final transformation into Saul has come. He just completely went into work, all the events around, several dates with near death forced him to come to terms with many things and take events for granted, probably he accepted Kim's departure in this way, and did not run after her in attempts to return, just let her go and that's it.
This also freed him to some extent, he is now completely unafraid for his reputation, gets into more dangerous things (Walter and Jesse), now the image of Saul completely takes over and becomes the basis of his personality. Or maybe she had always been his foundation, and Kim's presence was the only thing that left him with a drop of conscience.
In any case, whatever the end of Sol, it is not a happy one, because what has already happened cannot be called good in any way. Even if the Gin line ends on a good note.
As they say, Damage Done.
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Inattuabile
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23 Jul 2022, 19:03 #
@TheHeretic: or he emotionally shut down because his only love lied to him and left him even though he wanted to solve everything. But I couldn't do it. And I couldn't
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antons
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19 Jul 2022, 13:52 #
The series is dedicated to Julia Clark Downs. She worked as a consultant on the series and was a real-life lawyer in New Mexico. I helped a lot to make sure that all the scenes in court correspond to reality, and in the right state (because in the USA, courts can be quite different from each other in different states).

Julia died in an accident last year at the age of 43.
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Bullseye0901
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19 Jul 2022, 14:36 #
After two outstanding series in motion, this one naturally slows down the pace, as if giving us peace of mind, but, as usually happens here, this calm is restless to the point of horror. Everything seems to be really quiet around, because Lalo is dead, the problem is gone, but the ghost of Salamanca does not leave anyone: Fring, returning to a quiet life, dreaming of getting closer to a pleasant waiter, refuses a new relationship in fear of losing them again, Mike is corroded from the inside by the unjust death of his very boyfriend, about whom he oncethat was Jesse talking, and Kim and Jimmy are trying to cope with the consequences of their fun games, destroying not only the people around them, but also gradually themselves. The ending of the series, of course, is beyond cool: Kim understands that despite all their passionate love, it is impossible for them to be together, because they only emphasize the worst in each other, and not to understand which of them is more bad. The only way out after the accumulated mental scars is to escape from toxic happiness in the hope of returning to normal, even if it involves a life with a broken heart. I think it really was one of the most anticipated results, although, of course, there are four more episodes ahead and Kim should pop up at least once more.

In general, the sixth season is absolutely a masterpiece, delight from almost every episode. And if Seahorn doesn't get an Emmy for what she does on the screen, then the emmy can be closed.
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Pafasan
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19 Jul 2022, 23:12 #
@Bullseye0901: well, with Jesse, Mike clearly wasn't talking about Nacho. And the version about the son is also drawn. In that context, we were talking about a normal assistant, no more - he was talking about Victor.
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Ctixia
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22 Jul 2022, 21:02 #
@Pafasan: I doubt it's about Victor, even though I don't remember the sequence of events anymore. But Mike and Victor weren't that close, plus Victor deserved to be punished for Gale (although it was damn unexpected for the viewer).
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Pafasan
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24 Jul 2022, 20:11 #
@Ctixia: and how does the phrase "I had a guy, but now I don't" say that the character was close to Mike?)
The context was this: Victor died because of Jesse and Walter, and Fring put Jesse as Mike's assistant instead of Victor. Jesse whined and bothered Mike all the time. At some point, he snapped and uttered this phrase. She's nothing more than a rebuke to Jesse for being a burden.
Why would Mike even think about Nacho or his son at that moment, if it was about domestic work?
Plus, at the time of writing BB season 4, Gilligan could not even imagine what the BCS would be about, but the phrase still sounded and was not at all abstract, but quite specific to himself.
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MaxPlay
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25 Jul 2022, 13:42 #
Well explained 👍
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Inqshower
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19 Jul 2022, 15:26 #
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KateMilk
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19 Jul 2022, 16:17 #
@Inqshower: so he won't leave and will work for him until the last
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Inqshower
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19 Jul 2022, 16:40 #
@KateMilk: Isn't he going to work for Saul in all serious?
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KateMilk
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19 Jul 2022, 17:48 #
@Inqshower: only after Fring's death.
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Inqshower
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19 Jul 2022, 18:49 #
@KateMilk: I got it, thanks, I've been watching breaking bad for a long time.
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btmn
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23 Jul 2022, 14:08 #
@Inqshower: Fring has his main job, Saul has a part-time job
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Avenger999
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19 Jul 2022, 19:10 #
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sfajrat
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22 Jul 2022, 16:49 #
@Avenger999: The creators methodically and meticulously scatter bread crumbs and skillfully lead the GG of the series to a well-known character. And everything seems illogical and disappointing to you...¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Ctixia
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22 Jul 2022, 21:03 #
@Avenger999: They didn't just let Nacho go, they herded him with all the possibilities. And he called back himself.
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23 Jul 2022, 14:15 #
@Ctixia: Well, Nacho is really weird. Did Gus really not assume that the cartel would want to take Nacho alive? Somehow not very perceptive for the usually astute Gus.
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Ctixia
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24 Jul 2022, 02:10 #
@btmn: I assumed, of course, but his hands are tied in Mexico, so I had to take risks.
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btmn
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24 Jul 2022, 09:12 #
@Ctixia: Yeah, so "connected" that he was able to send a whole squad of desperate thugs after Lalo, whom, for example, he could order to eliminate Nacho at the same time. And there were other possibilities too. In the end, he was even able to get Nacho out of Mexico unnoticed with his "tied hands", which was presented as something incredibly difficult.
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Flexeus
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02 Dec 2022, 12:00 #
@btmn: Nacho should have said who he was allegedly working for to deflect suspicion from Fring. That's why he was needed alive.
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05 Dec 2022, 21:05 #
@Flexeus: Only Nacho didn't know "who he was supposedly working for" before Mike pulled him out of Mexico. Nacho, of course, is not a fool and could have come up with some story on his own to turn the tables on Fring, but what is the probability that Nacho would not have broken down under torture and stuck to such a story until the last? This is the first thing. Secondly, they left a gun at the motel for Nacho and told him to shoot anyone who entered his room. Obviously, Fring planned that the cartel would find Nacho in this motel, who in turn would open fire on them, provoking a shootout in which he would die.
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MiKaminskas
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19 Jul 2022, 20:48 #
I hope in the last episodes they will tell you what's next in Kim's life
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nataliysk
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13 Dec 2022, 18:59 #
@MiKaminskas: Yes, I don't want Kim's story to end like this..I hope we'll see her again.
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Cavelier
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19 Jul 2022, 20:57 #
The photos of Howard posted in the NNM office are taken from his Instagram. Funny, and a little creepy...
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KRUZHOG
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21 Jul 2022, 22:58 #
@Cavelier: as a result, Howard invented the selfie back in 2004 (according to the chronology of the series)
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plizkin1
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22 Jul 2022, 09:30 #
@KRUZHOG: selfie was invented by the wolf from well, wait)
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sfajrat
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22 Jul 2022, 16:53 #
@Cavelier: с чувством юмора у него все ок)
Together Forever
https://twitter.com/PatrickFabian/status/1547253757624233984
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thepowerfuldeez
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19 Jul 2022, 21:25 #
so the plot of BCS and BB got stuck
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19 Jul 2022, 22:26 #
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kathrine_adams
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19 Jul 2022, 22:43 #
Mike did well to talk to Nacho's father after all. It's a pity for the old man, but it's better to let him know the truth.
Howard's wife is good, she still believes in her husband, but it's no use...
Saul and Kim's relationship is expected to go to hell.
And the ending of the series, it turns out, is already footage from the time of BB? I hope the series has completely skipped at this time.
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ShEX
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19 Jul 2022, 23:19 #
7 years of the series' journey and here it is, the long-awaited moment, Saul Goodman in his classic office, and the Badger has already "shuddered in a public place"))
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gkalian
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20 Jul 2022, 00:36 #
That is.. did they take Kim away by sending her somewhere far away? Kim was around for 6 seasons, and then this? I don't know, I think I was waiting for a more dramatic and emotional outcome, and then it turns out she left, the black screen and then Sol in all its glory. My expectations are my problems, I understand everything, but I'm a little upset.

Perhaps this is really a logical ending for Jimmy and Kim's relationship, they are harmful together, after all, at Kim's funeral, she didn't blink an eye when she lied to Howard's wife. But nevertheless, it's sad.
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piftus
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21 Jul 2022, 11:32 #
@gkalian: So two people who want to be together, but can't because they decided so themselves, isn't it dramatic enough for you?
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gkalian
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21 Jul 2022, 11:51 #
@kwarg2: In the context of the series and previous events, yes. But I wrote, these are my personal perception problems.
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antons
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22 Jul 2022, 01:26 #
@gkalian: Wait. There are 4 more episodes. I, like you, did not get something in this arch. and I hope that it will be closed in a different way. There are 4 more episodes.
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gkalian
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22 Jul 2022, 11:38 #
@antons: Some kind of feeling of understatement, right? The transition between events is too abrupt.
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TFRS
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20 Jul 2022, 00:46 #
I hope that we will see Kim again, otherwise it will be a very modest and melodramatic breakup
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D333
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20 Jul 2022, 04:06 #
About the end credits...

Better Call Saul paid tribute to Julia Clark Downs to honor her for being an integral part of the show. At the end of season 6, "Better Call Saul", episode 9, there was a title card dedicated to Julia Clark Downs.
Julia Clark Downs died in an accident on October 5, 2021 at the age of 43 after she was hit by a motorist driving at high speed in Taos, New Mexico.
Who is Julia Clark Downs?
She was a certified attorney and author of the AMC series. She worked for the District Attorney's office and participated in the Better Call Saul organization to make laws and history more authentic. She helped in the courtroom scene where Kim announced her retirement from the bar.
According to her LinkedIn profile, Julia Clark Downs has been working as an employment consultant for the last four years. She previously worked as an assistant trial prosecutor in the 13th Judicial District Attorney's Office.
Before starting her career as a lawyer, Downs worked as a clerk at Will Ferguson & Associates. She was an operational consultant for Cinnafilm, Inc. and worked as a program assistant at the Landmine Survivors Network.
Julia Clark Downs received her degree from the University of New Mexico School of Law. She received her bachelor's degree in English from the University of Maryland.
She is survived by her 12-year-old son Gavin and parents Emily and Clark.
According to her obituary on "Legacy": "Julia was an avid runner, skier, soccer player and generally an outdoor enthusiast.
"She was a creative cook who could cook great dishes without any recipe.
"Julia was a feminist and a brave defender of losers."
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CURI0SITY
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20 Jul 2022, 07:22 #
Well, everyone was guessing what would happen to Kim and why she wasn't in BB, and she just left
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Landen
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20 Jul 2022, 16:13 #
@CURI0SITY: It will be shown again. It's unlikely that the creators will just let Ray Seahorn off the screen.

It seems to me that it will be shown after all the events in Breaking Bad. Maybe there will even be a happy ending, Jimmy will meet Kim and they will be together again. Ehh.
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id2950794
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20 Jul 2022, 07:45 #
Oh, this smooth transition - how they wipe the blood off the floor and how Saul rubs ketchup on a plate)
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id216265573
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26 Jul 2022, 00:56 #
@id2950794: перекликается с такой же сценой в оригинальном сериале - там после убийства Виктора была такая же уборка, и кадр с кровавым полом сменился на соус на тарелке.
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Interea
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20 Jul 2022, 14:48 #
Вся серия просто визуальный оргазм, за операторскую работу точно должны наградить в этом году!
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mad1van
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20 Jul 2022, 19:32 #
Ну вот и ответ на вопрос, что же стало с Ким. Жаль, что они вот так вот расстались. Спасибо хоть живой осталась. И есть крохотный шанс, что они еще пересекутся где то в будущем.
Я очень надеюсь, что за оставшиеся серии нам таки покажут, чем там в настоящем история Сола закончится. Неужели он так и останется до гробовой доски работать в закусочной.
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htoniceskii
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20 Jul 2022, 22:04 #
Ждём возвращение Туко 😀
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curare
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20 Jul 2022, 23:27 #
Гас в одном эпизоде в ресторане выдал больше эмоций, чем за все серии в двух сериалах😄
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brockway
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21 Jul 2022, 12:09 #
Как-то слишком просто все с Ким, вам так не кажется?

Столько теорий было про нее, многие зрители переживают за нее, и вот так все просто? Разошлись? Серьезно?) А может это и нормально, но я так не думаю.
Считаю, что что-то будет еще с ней
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mynameisbang
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21 Jul 2022, 15:54 #
Когда там уже Уолтер и Джесси появятся? Надеюсь не под конец последней серии...
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oleg2101
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21 Jul 2022, 17:37 #
@mynameisbang: так наверное и будет
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Nog
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21 Jul 2022, 17:54 #
@mynameisbang: где-то во время перерыва писали, что появятся в десятой. Скоро уже узнаем, так ли это.
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TristisOris
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22 Jul 2022, 00:34 #
да почему там всего одна проститутка на весь город.
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Djimmy
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22 Jul 2022, 10:00 #
@TristisOris: Всех остальных подкинули в машину Говарда
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Djimmy
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22 Jul 2022, 10:00 #
Очень рад за Ким, которая теперь точно не погибнет в бандитских разборках и не будет иметь отношения к аферам Гудмана, которого почему-то вообще не жаль.

Джимми всегда имел деструктивное начало, и даже с противовесом в виде Ким, умудрился разрушить жизнь собственного брата, жизнь Говарда, а затем и вовсе придать HHM анафеме. И это еще будучи neutral good версией, до становления полноценного chaotic evil Сола.

Векслер же всегда была полной противоположностью. И хоть и имела склонность к саморазрушению, доставшуюся ей от матери, это скорее было зияющей дырой в её безупречной броне. Которую она периодически гладила и трогала, но каждый раз это давалось путем сделки с совестью, иссякнувшей, как только пришло понимание, что их брак - это буквально союз жабы и гадюки.

Надеюсь ей дадут какой-то отдельный спин-офф, по крайней мере было бы интересно посмотреть на её жизнь вдали от Джимми. Чем она будет заниматься, как отреагирует на крах империи Гудмана.

Ну а Солу пора выходить на авансцену, получить порцию аплодисментов перед пышным занавесом
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MII
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22 Jul 2022, 10:58 #
@Djimmy: Создатели сериала говорили, что Ким создала Сола Гудмана. Было много моментов, когда Сол не готов был идти до конца, а Ким не могла остановиться. Сам Сол это понимал, гогда думая про нее сказал "волки и овцы" в серии с Кетлманами.
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Langly
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23 Jul 2022, 19:55 #
> chaotic evil Сола
Серьезно? Chaotic evil - это Туко. Вот прям стопроцентный. Как под этот алигмент можно подогнать Джимми (в его любой испостаси) - не представляю.
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Djimmy
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26 Jul 2022, 13:22 #
@MII: Ну слушайте, сериал в эфире почти 7 лет. Понятное дело, что у меня нет возможности также пристально следить за развитием персонажей, как у создателей, которые ежедневно трудятся над продолжением истории. Поэтому не вижу никакой проблемы в том, что мое восприятие немного отличается

@Langly: А почему бы и нет? На контрасте очень даже ощущается. Но если для вас chaotic evil это исключительно форменные психопаты - окей, ваше право. Хотя если покопаться в тех же алигментах D&D, можно не настолько однозначный вывод сделать относительно CE
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26rus_alk
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06 Feb 2023, 01:09 #
@Djimmy: Джимми разрушил жизнь брата? Да тот ведь его гнобил всю жизнь.
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MII
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22 Jul 2022, 10:24 #
Очень все правильно и логично с Ким, дальновидная умная Ким. Теперь если они вместе, рядом всегда вина и смерть, ложь друзьям, полиции и это не пройдет, если они не конченые отморозки. Наверное Ким себя еще за хорошего человека держит, поняла что бежать надо. Разлука и время возможно еще что то подлечат, если их снова сведут вместе. Но у Сола на руках еще смерть мальчика, если я правильно помню ВВ.
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plizkin1
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22 Jul 2022, 12:26 #
@MII: Если вы про Брока, то он не умер, а был сильно отравлен при помощи уловок Уолта, и с этим ему тоже помог Сол, подослав Хьюэлла, который ловко вытянул сигарету с рицином у Джесси
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MII
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22 Jul 2022, 16:28 #
@plizkin1:Спасибо, помню только, что Джесси побил его за рициновую сигарету.
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little_gеnius
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24 Sep 2022, 08:03 #
@MII: да, только Сол не знал, что это яд и он предназначен для мальчика.
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Foster_Who
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22 Jul 2022, 13:58 #
Эта серия💔💔
Концовка просто разбила мое сердце…
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sfajrat
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22 Jul 2022, 17:17 #
В первый раз признались друг другу в любви словами! Но при расставании...💔
Имхо, склонность Ким к плохим делишкам даже больше чем у Джимми. Просто после смерти Говарда это осознав, она поняла, что она мотор в их автомобиле, а вот Джимми не ее тормоза, а наоборот, акселератор. Что он не может ее остановить, а наоборот подогревает ее азарт. И это означает, что в какой-то момент дальше будет еще хуже и еще больше последствий. И как итог волевое решение сильного человека.
Я понимаю, что для некоторых людей это совсем не очевидная мотивация и они могут считать это "слитием" персонажа Ким, но на мой взгляд, это наоборот, очень тонко прописанный ее психологический профиль.
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Ctixia
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22 Jul 2022, 21:08 #
Just the gods of transitions. From blood to ketchup, I shuddered, brrr...
I thought Kim would say about the divorce in the parking lot. But everything turned out to be more extended.

And only the one who watched the BrBa will understand this scene.
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kathrine_adams
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22 Jul 2022, 21:11 #
@Ctixia: Isn't this the pool where Max was once killed?
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Nog
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22 Jul 2022, 21:12 #
@kathrineston: и около которого Гус свершил свою месть.
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Ctixia
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22 Jul 2022, 21:13 #
@kathrineston: и даже тот же ракурс, с которого его показывали.
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kathrine_adams
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22 Jul 2022, 21:15 #
Надо пересмотреть эти сцены, плохо уже их помню))
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Ctixia
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22 Jul 2022, 21:15 #
@Ctixia: кстати, насчет сцены на парковке - символично получилось, что они остановились у двух машин, стоящих нос к носу, и когда Ким уехала, Сол остался в одиночестве.
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fenimor
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23 Jul 2022, 20:57 #
@Ctixia: символичность еще в том, что кроме того, что раньше они были вдвоём, так в них было ещё что-то светлое
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wielory
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22 Jul 2022, 23:10 #
Прошу прощения, а из какого штата Сол переехал в Альбукерке? Не минусуйте..
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Ctixia
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22 Jul 2022, 23:50 #
@wielory: а почему вы решили, что он откуда-то переехал?..
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23 Jul 2022, 00:01 #
@Ctixia: да вот спор был с товарищем. Он же сменил имя..достаточно ли просто переехать внутри штата и тебя никто не найдёт?
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Ctixia
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23 Jul 2022, 00:57 #
@wielory: по его сериальной биографии, он родился в Иллинойсе, а после из-за проблем с законом по настоянию Чака переехал в Альбукерке. Но имя сменил он после, в сериале это показали, и это уже не связанные факты. А вот после событий БрБа он уже и сменил имя (еще раз), и переехал в Небраску.
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so_sad_lemon
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23 Jul 2022, 00:27 #
@wielory: из Иллинойса, емнип
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23 Jul 2022, 15:28 #
Последние 5 минут думал, что увидем Уайта и Джесси. Особенно, когда Сол приехал в свой офис.
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nataliysk
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13 Dec 2022, 19:00 #
@Irish_Ethan: когда секретарша сказала пацану убрать ноги - я подумала,что это Джесси)
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23 Jul 2022, 17:00 #
Фринг просто гейниален.
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htoniceskii
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24 Jul 2022, 17:23 #
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squark
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23 Jul 2022, 23:14 #
Страшно было за Ким, рад, что вышла живой и целой из этой истории.
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FringeMania
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28 Jul 2022, 22:00 #
Я просто рада, что с Ким в итоге все хорошо. Боялась, что ее убьют.
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crazybee
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28 Jul 2022, 23:00 #
странноватые ощущения от серии. столько было хайпа и волнения, особенно когда жена Говарда стала докапываться при людях до Джимми и Ким, а потом как будто все слито... ну посмотрим что впереди
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Ctixia
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30 Jul 2022, 00:11 #
@crazybee: это был действительно очень волнительный момент. Думаю, она таки сломалась, когда Ким ей рассказала якобы тайну про Говарда.
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schweppes
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31 Jul 2022, 17:30 #
Приятно видеть воссоединение Рида Даймонда и Джанкарло Эспозито, спустя столько лет.
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Gond
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07 Aug 2022, 18:16 #
Обязательно надо было бросать адвокатуру, что расстаться с Солом? Пол жизни отдала этой профессии и что теперь? Или можно переехать в другой штат, изучить местные законы, сдать экзамен и вот ты снова адвокат?
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Iscariot_Elian
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14 Aug 2022, 00:51 #
А мне стало как-то очень грустно за Джимми, но теперь уже Сола, когда нам показали его типичное утро. Уже без Ким, как будто она была последним, что удерживало его от того, чтобы не стать мерзковатым алчным адвокатом. Может это был его способ справиться с её уходом.
В общем, почему-то эта сцена как-то мне отпечаталась, прямо действительно конец эпохи Джимми, так сказать.
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_sHiny
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16 Aug 2022, 14:23 #
этому шоу удалось украсть у меня часть сердца, что бывает очень-очень редко. на пальцах можно пересчитать полотна, в которых чувствовалась та же сила: Бром Барий, Клан Сопрано, Прослушка, Мэд Мены и наверное Клиент всегда мертв.

я вместа с Джимми и Ким рыдала на моменте их расставания. я давно, может и никогда, не видела такого сильного экранного дуэта. браво! БРАВО!

you make me happy! we make each other happy. how can that be bad?
сколько раз подобное происходит в реальной жизни (при других обстоятельствах, конечно) - не сосчитать.

грущу.
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peacefulginger
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17 Aug 2022, 01:37 #
Резкий переход от скотча к проститутке в шубе.
Такова жизнь
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Fenyamin
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18 Aug 2022, 18:16 #
Он таки доломал жизнь Ким... эх какого классного юриста потерял мир. Рад хотя бы она осталась в живых (надеюсь так и дальше будет).
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BuHT16K20
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22 Aug 2022, 17:34 #
Как бы сильно я не презирал Чака, но надо признать, брат Джимми был прав.
Возможно, только Ким, ее любовь и ее доброта удерживали Сола от полного, тотального погружения в преступный мир.
Как бы сильно она не любила его, она не могла сопротивляться его разрушительному поведению. И хуже всего что они оба создавали прекрасный тандем. Способный уничтожить жизнь любому. Два гения юриспруденции.
И теперь Солу больше нечего терять по большому счету. Ведь самого ценного он лишился. В его разуме остались только деньги. И он превратился именно в того, кем его брат всегда считал. Мошенник с прекрасным юридическим образованием. Просто атомная бомба среди закона.
Я до последнего надеялся, что Ким будет вынуждена сбежать из-за картеля, из-за Лало. А Сол спрячет ее. Что они не так потеряют друг друга. Что они будут любить и дальше. Но нет. Их жизнь разошлась, как и у многих других среди наших знакомых. Впереди только серое будущее
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wasted_views
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22 Aug 2022, 19:34 #
Слив Ким какой-то.Впрочем,ожидаемо.
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Sensation2102
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26 Aug 2022, 20:44 #
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g1217882
g1217882
08 Sep 2022, 23:02 #
Обычно сильные потрясения сближают людей. Но тут все наоборот
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lis900
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29 Sep 2022, 20:01 #
Джимми реально таракан. Отравляет всем жизнь.
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sailormofo
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02 Oct 2022, 21:32 #
Хмм... С такого расстояния выстрелить в бронежилет и Гус всего лишь заваливается назад и потом как ни в чем ни бывало встает и даже почти не морщится от боли. С такого расстояния такой тонкий броник прошибается навылет и 100% ломаются ребра. Гус бы не смог пошевелиться от боли. Да и сердце могло бы остановиться.
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26rus_alk
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06 Feb 2023, 01:17 #
@sailormofo: баллистические и мед эксперты подъехали, ага.

1 Гус очень богат, ему в прямом смысле некуда девать деньги, это самый лучший и дорогой броник из возможных.
2 Свинцовая пуля без стального сердечника вообще плохо что-либо пробивает. Свинец очень мягкий. А если она еще и экспансивная, то тем более.
3 А с чего вы взяли, что у Гуса все ребра целые? Человек со сломанным ребром может двигаться, особенно в шоковом состоянии.
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zhosman-kinoman
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12 Mar 2023, 18:13 #
Сцена с Фрингом в винодельне топ 👌🏽
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Nooooo99
Nooooo99
05 Apr 2023, 22:44 #
И это что все?! Они просто решили расстаться и начать новую жизнь? Я, конечно, рада что Ким жива, но ждала прям какой-то тяжёлый момент. И уж точно не их расстования. Хотя весь сериал красной линией нам показывают, что они из разных миров. Все так легко и быстро закончилось. И зачем было бросать профессию? Ведь она столько трудилась ради этого, это её призвание.
И да здравствует Сол! Такой контраст, конечно
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Doctor_13
Doctor_13
09 Apr 2023, 23:16 #
С Ким обидно получилось
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ekko
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24 May 2023, 11:57 #
As soon as I saw that all episodes of the season up to 10 go with "and" in the title, I realized that Clyde would lose his Bonnie at 9.
As for Kim's decision, everything has been going to this since the beginning of the season. She specifically went all out in such a way that at times even Jimmy was uncomfortable with her excitement and composure, and that says a lot.
After the turning point, conscience could no longer stand it. Despite the fact that yes, Kim also has this adventurous streak, but without Jimmy she would never have come to this.
She's an idealist, she wanted to make the world a better place, help people, and ended up with this. Therefore, these words of hers that we are harmful to each other are still not true, it was Saul Goodman who poisoned her there.
Although I still want to believe that somewhere out there, in the final of the Gilliganvers, Kim is waiting for her Jimmy.
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Arkane
Arkane
02 Mar 12:37 #
Какая-то очень траурная по атмосфере серия. Тут и своеобразное прощание с Начо, поскольку Майк рассказал его отцу о его смерти. Прощание с Говардом на его поминках. И похороны отношений Ким и Джимми (по-другому я это не могу назвать). А, еще Ким закончила карьеру адвоката...

И было как-то печально в конце видеть Джимми с проституткой, а не с Ким. Джимми один в гигантском доме, в котором вроде много чего есть, но чувствуется все каким-то пустым.
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MARxLENin
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16 Mar 17:09 #
Why did Kim quit her law practice? What will she do? You can continue in another state, after all.
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