s02e08 — Hark! Darkness Descends!

It hurts a lot for Marcus. He's alone, he can't get himself out, and the others either don't give a damn, or pretend not to notice, or don't know anything.

Oh, and for some reason I'm glad that nothing worked out between Joe and Cynthia.

this episode broke my heart, I perfectly understand Markus and his condition, so I'm terribly sorry for him, I hope that his family will notice that his mental health has deteriorated again and will be able to help him

— We don't like him, do we?
— No, we don't.

friendship (kinda?) Zion and Paula (and Joe still) just <3

It was only necessary to tell me in the comments under the last series that Marcus has obvious depression, as in this series this topic was raised, which I am very glad, because the topic is really serious and we do not always notice the problems of others, ignore them, such is human psychology, and you can't help someone who denies their problems and The answer to any question is that everything is fine… All this is sad, but a person himself must come to the conclusion that he needs help, otherwise there is zero point

It was a genuinely pleasant conversation. I am glad that they are gradually getting closer

happy for Maxine and Braisha)
Why reintroduce Sophie and what is Georgia's benefit from the death of Cynthia's husband 🤔
Well, I hope that they will not quickly sculpt Ginny/Hunter now

For Ginny, there are only her problems 🤮 Markus simply did not deserve such an attitude(

And I feel sorry for Marcus. Except for his sister, no one notices his suffering.

Marcus and Maxine 🤎🤎🤎🤎🤎

Jesus, Marcus, honey, I know how you feel.

but everything is supposed to be getting better ... but it's a shame for Marcus, he's unlikely to want to pull himself out🥺

Is Marcus an addition to Ginny?!
He's a wonderful individual character, multifaceted, whom I wanted to get to know. But))))
Thank you for the season, and that it has become an addition.
I love their interactions with Max, and that she realized almost immediately that something was wrong.

Maxine and her father had such a heartfelt conversation.

Marcus is very sorry, Ginny is fixated only on herself. The scene of them walking down the hallway shows once again that it's good that his sister noticed his condition.

I wonder who was killed in the end!!

Max is so good at acting!
Marcus, honey, why isn't anyone helping you?!
I hope they get him out of this state.
Ginny is a complete egotist, she doesn't see anyone beyond her nose, she only thinks about herself.

Once again, I'm convinced that youthful maximalism is making itself felt, or it's just the most disgusting trait in Ginny. It's amazing how you can ignore that your significant other is feeling bad. I perfectly understand Marcus, when the burden of your problems interferes with life, and a person appears who puts more and more on you.

Ginny's being super selfish. Why should people take care of her? Marcus literally "stood up" and he feels so bad if a real girl who really loves would behave like this. Now I can't stand her any more😤

Am I the only one who thinks that Ginny's dialogue with Marcus was completely off topic? Out of the blue, a conversation about their relationship began. Here she is talking to a detective, here the school play has begun, she came skewed and angry for some reason at Marcus. What? What the fuck? Did I miss something?
The fact that Ginny is selfish, we have long understood this, she never once asked Marcus how he was doing, only he was always worried about her and took care of her. He will be better off without her, let him try to concentrate only on his problems so that he gets better, he is a bunny and deserves happiness ♡

Gil abuser

Marcus immediately noticed Ginny's mood at the play just after one word, and she didn't even say anything when he showed up drunk at school...she came up with the problem that he didn't want to meet her, he told her several times that it wasn't her, but him, and instead of JUST ASKING WHAT WAS GOING ON with HIM and what he meant, she didn't believe him and still thought it was something wrong with her, again everything about her and about her🤦♀I really want to hug Marcus((

abby seems to be self-harming too (
let's damn it here without suicides, please((and without Sophie

The most incomprehensible series, I don't know who messed up, whether the scriptwriters or the editors, but it's like the pieces are disappearing. Ginny's sudden breakup with Marcus has already been mentioned, but what else is wrong with Georgia and Cynthia?
So Cynthia suddenly sees Gil attacking Georgia, let's say. She intervenes and takes her away, then they sit at her house, everything is understandable.
But... Georgia suddenly picks up and strangles Sylvia's husband, seriously? Whether it's on my own or at Sylvia's request, I just don't believe in any of these options. And Austin sees it, too? Shozan?
Or was it Austin's imagination? But it's also nonsense. I hope they will give some normal explanations later, and this is all such an idea for intrigue.

And the musical was great. I've been looking for information about it, but it looks like it was written specifically for the series. Although it would be cool to see a more complete version in some special issue.

How did Ginny have tantrums, God forgive me....
A person directly tells you that he is tired, that he cannot take out your shit, there is plenty of his own, but no, let's turn the situation on ourselves?
- What did I do wrong?
What about everything in general, huh? Emotional swings, one-way relationships, Marcus as a background picture for poor unfortunate Ginny. Are you getting drunk on soup? I don't care, your problem. Am I not hugging you back? Also your problem!

It's time to rename the series to "Ginny's Tantrums", I'm not bringing it out anymore.

"There is no room in me for someone else's pain." God, Marcus is such a bunny, how painful it was to hear such vital words. And how infuriating Ginny is with her selfishness, because the world is spinning around her, how does Marcus tell her in plain text how difficult and painful it is for him, and she screams "you will never hug me again"

thanks for Cynthia and Joe 🛐 🛐 🛐 🛐

Ginny is so selfish, blind to other people's feelings and pain.
Marcus used to be annoying, but now he's one of my favorite characters. I want to see more of him in the series!

Wow, a guy tells you that he has so much pain inside, and you blame him and say he'll feel sorry for you.. can you think at this moment not only about yourself?..

Max looked so much like Bellatrix Lestrange in the musical 🧙 🪄

Does no one see Marcus's suffering at all? Max sees, but does nothing. Ginny sees only her own problems.
But I would like to say that the girls played beautifully in the play and these are the best moments of the series.

Marcus Depression is a terrible condition… Oh my God , the shot 😭🙈

I'm the one who likes the Zion couple the most./Georgia? 😁

What an infuriating Ginny, there are no words. Her head was slightly corrected and she forgot to think about the feelings of others. I don't understand one thing - how can a person with her problems not see that her partner is in deep ass?? It seems to me that at least it was possible to pay attention to Marcus or to his actions, which are already just a cry for help.
But with him, too, they got wise, how can a depressed person selectively show participation and interest in other people? His permanent state is described by the scene of him walking down the corridor in a vacuum, and he miraculously emerges from it to say sorry to Padme (also drunk in the trash, amazing!), to talk to Max and even give her advice, and by the expression on Ginny's face to understand and ask what's wrong with her. He should give a shit about everything and everyone, but no. A very strange decision of the creators to present depression.

I understand that Ginny is a teenager, but just listen to what she says when she breaks up.
God, what an egotist.

Unfortunately, I feel Marcus on all levels. Ginny as always: I can't see anything, I'm a great blind man 💀

Why did Georgia kill Cynthia's husband 🤔

Marcus rarely asked Ginny how she was doing. Ginny never asked how he was, what was wrong with him... I'm very sorry for him...
Maxine did well to tell her father about her worries about her brother. And she played wonderfully in the play!
At the end of the episode, hopefully Austin didn't take the gun...

a classic of the genre, if a gun is shown, it will definitely go off.

The most incomprehensible series. Apparently, everything will be revealed in the remaining two.

Marcus's problems have finally been revealed.
but their breakup with Ginny is something. "what's wrong with this hallway?" Ahhh, it's true, last season there was drama in this hallway, and now. Up to this point, Ginny didn't really piss me off, but now it's just a facepalm. What a stubborn egotist she is. They tell you to your face that it hurts a person like that! "you promised." what a character, I'm shocked by such people.
also, an actress needs to play not in a movie, but rather in a theater, because this constant exaggerated facial expression just kills. this is the problem of half the caste, by the way. they were all found at school productions, probably. judging by the fact that very often there are musical Disney or poetic five minutes, this is true. not to blame the guys, but there is something to work on.
the musical is good, Max was even more radiant.
I hope everything will be fine with Marcus.

I wonder what Joe would be like in our time without a beard 🤔
I keep waiting for Georgia to realize that this is the Joe from the gas station, or when Joe will hint to her)

I wish Gini understood Marcus

And I hope Maxine doesn't fall for her ex.

It's hard to find a character that pisses me off more than Ginny. You'd have to be blind not to notice that something was going on with Marcus. I'm tired of watching her unhappy face and whining the whole series.

I'm worried about Georgia.

I really like Paul and Joe, but I'm still on Zion's team. I warmly watch the flashbacks with him. He was always protecting her, always on her side.

1. Why doesn't anyone say how sorry they are for Austin?? He saw his mom kill a man in front of his eyes.
2. I'm glad that Johnny wasn't enough in this series and many other characters were revealed. But she still fucked up this episode with that tantrum. Fiercely selfish, of course.
3. I thought Cynthia's husband would wake up and it would be an unexpected turn. It's a pity for him, of course....
4. the press (or whatever his name is) and Abby revealed a bit. It was a bit unexpected, of course.
5. I'm very sorry for Marcus, it's a pity his family is used to his condition and no longer pays attention, it would be worth doing something.

Ginny, of course, is not very empathetic. There's no way to ignore Markus' words that he doesn't have room for anyone else's pain right now. Instead of asking what he meant, he turned everything back to himself and his drama. But Marcus is good too: why not just say that he's having a shitty period and all that? "It's about me" - okay, but more specifically?

did I really see myself in the role of Marcus, during their breakup with Ginny in the hallway? That's how I understand him. maybe I'm wrong, but everyone always talks about the grief of the abandoned, but have they at least thought about what it's like for people who had to leave? They always judge and hate those who have left, but that's how I understand Marcus, and I've been blaming myself for a long time, but now I understand that if you love, sometimes it's better to leave.
Maxine is shown as a sensitive, vulnerable and very emotional person. they always showed their quarrels with their brother, how they infuriated each other, but this episode showed their love so well. They're twins after all, and there was a very touching scene at the end.
I don't understand why Georgia would do that. Yes, it's not easy for Cynthia right now, it's hard for her to let her husband go, but that doesn't mean Georgia can interfere like that, she doesn't have the right to do that.

I didn't understand the dialogue between Ginny and Marcus at all, he hugged her, she suddenly ran away. What did she suddenly feel there? Have you noticed that for some time now he's been retiring, getting drunk, avoiding socializing? And she's already trying to pin feelings of guilt on the second guy because of her problems. Max is such a charming and good friend. Although she was very angry, it was because of emotions, but she forgives easily and tries to become a best friend. And she tried to keep an eye on her brother. Georgia's motive is not very clear.. Why would she do that?

It's really cool that in a small town, at such an ordinary event, there is a sign language interpreter to make everyone feel comfortable. Just wow

I remember how much I liked the first season, but even then I thought what a wonderful series it would be without a teenage line, watching the second season I was clearly convinced of this. Maybe I'm not that old anymore, but I'm tired of these fights and pointless suffering.

Omg. Ginny is blind or something. He walks with Marcus by the hand, grinning, can't he see that something is happening to him? Infuriating even more than before

What a scene between Ginny and Marcus. On the one hand, remembering myself as a teenager is hard, on the other I experienced Spanish shame from these "Please, Marcus 😭😭😭"

I feel sorry for Ginny and Marcus in this episode. Marcus because he's sick and suffering. Ginny because she believed him once again, and he broke her heart again. Although she's not okay either. The fact that he is sick does not negate the fact that she also has the right to emotions. And what selfishness has to do with it, look at it all through her eyes, no matter how much you like the character, the situation is miserable.

For some reason, I don't feel sorry for Ginny at all.
This season, the supporting characters are generally sympathetic.

And I'm so sorry for Marcus and Ginny, they're both very traumatized and were a wonderful couple.

And Austin is very sorry, seeing a mother kill a man is even worse than just finding out about it.

Ginny pissed me off a lot. It was as if she and Marcus had not had a dialogue, but a monologue in which Ginny herself came up with the idea that he did not love her, did not want to be with her, despite the fact that the man sat next to her, hugged her during the play, followed her, asked why she was upset. And this was done by a depressed person. What a lot of work it cost him to be with her when he couldn't do anything.
But anyway, Ginny took it all to herself, didn't listen to him, didn't even try to understand. A nightmare in general.

Results of the 8th series:
Max and Marcus hugging each other is just a river of tears 🥺
It's a pity for Ginny, but the conversation came out of nowhere, Marcus did everything right.

GEORGIA: Sorry Austin, but I refuse to believe that she strangled Cynthia's husband, it's too much... It seems to me that Austin just didn't put on his glasses, that's all. It's also incredibly interesting what Austin's father wants from Georgia... For some reason, it seems that the season will end with him taking the child away.
Next!
Sorry people, but the African-American caste headed by Braishi aka I'm all such a virgin, I like the guy, I can't say anything....fucked up 😂

Abby seems to me to be making a mistake getting close to that jock. And the second friend, whose name I can't remember , doesn't reveal anything at all....

Marcus 💔💔💔
The ending is certainly intriguing and alarming!!!

The ending is shocking, the first thing that came to mind was if Austin had shot Georgia.
I suppose that's unlikely. But still. He found the weapon. He saw something that shocked him.
I hope that this is not the case and this is just a rampant fantasy of mine.

Ginny, there are no words, how can you not notice anything around you at all, it hurts so much for Marcus, I've liked him since the very first episode. Maxine and Breisha are sweethearts, I'm happy for them

Marcus 💔
Ginny seemed to go deaf, he even told her "there is no place for someone else's pain in me" and she still talks about herself and herself and how he can't do this to HER. She's very selfish, she wants everyone to hear about her problems and understand and get into the situation, but she doesn't even try to do it herself.

and it pisses me off that because of Ginny and Marcus' sudden quarrel, we also missed Maxine's other outing (she was great there

It's just weird. They make Marcus a super cute and cool guy. They show how well everything is going in their relationship. In the next episode, he's depressed (and why exactly?) And everything happens as it happens. What's the point then? To make Ginny feel even worse?

I think Austin shot Gil. Maybe he saw him arguing with Georgia or threatening her and wanted to take his son away.

The episode flew by quickly, only at the end I realized why! Because Ginny's screen time was super short, and that's great. Her tantrums, misery and egocentricity boiled over 😡😡 Marcus has it written on his forehead that everything is not OK with him, but noooo, Ginny is a sufferer again

The whole series seemed that some moments were simply cut. Okay, maybe we'll find out more about what Ginny found out in a conversation with a detective, but really she still can't tell her mom that he's coming to her. There also seems to be some kind of trust formed, but she constantly blames her and Max for the fact that they think only about themselves, but it didn't hurt to look after themselves either. Then a moment, she came angry, for some reason began to drive at Marcus, although he sat down with her and was always as honest as possible. It was as if they had cut out the moment that Max had told her friend or that she had heard something. What happened to a couple in a cafe that they didn't come to the play? Everything is cut, as if the series were cut.
But Marcus just ♥
"I have no place for someone else's pain" - just in my heart.

I'm glad that I wasn't the only one who felt the gaps in the series. I didn't understand why Ginny was carefree with Marcus by the hand at one moment, and ignoring him out of resentment at another. And by the way, Max told her she was worried about Marcus, but Ginny ignored it.… I thought she got better in therapy, and since she and Max said it wasn't okay to ignore each other's problems, she'd notice the guy's condition. But no, and this is strange... we were shown that there is no effect from working with a psychologist at all, and this slightly devalues this whole line with therapy.

Joe's Dance

I'm so glad that they started to reveal Marcus and there were more moments with him in this episode.
It's good that everything is over between Joe and Cynthia.
And Abby and Abs?!
Max and Sylvia😍
But damn, Ginny and Marcus are just heartbreaking.💔
And also, I would like to mention the theatrical production, I always really like it in American TV series and movies, there is such a cool atmosphere there that I really want to watch it live, or take part myself.

I really liked the inserts with Joe from the past, they seem to be trying to show that he wasn't always so kind, as if he has something similar to Georgia.

Damn, I'm really worried about Marcus. And Ginny cackles about herself all the time. Why Sophie was brought back. And someone tell Georgia that killing is bad.

I really want to support Marx, listen to him, hug him, and not shout discontent from Ginny. She could ask, etc., or support him in silence if he doesn't want to or isn't ready to speak out.

Everyone is slowly growing up, Maxine has already admitted that the world does not revolve around her and that she will be more attentive to others. And Ginny is still the same, she doesn't think about anyone but herself. I'm truly sorry about Marcus.

Yeees.... Ginny has a problem with logic....
"Me... I'm sorry... I have... But I am...."
It is tragic when a person hears only himself.

Maxine is such a beautiful witch, she looks like Emma Stone here.
The conversation in the hallway between Ginny and Marcus looked as crazy as possible. Ginny provoked the conflict out of the blue, without discussing anything and threw him, while throwing a tantrum and exposing herself as a victim. Just what? I didn't understand what was going on at all, as if part of the dialogue had actually been cut out. It's a pity for him, now it's completely closed, but at least they won't ship other people's problems.

Marcus.... Oh Marcus, his demons have taken over again. Hold on, boy. It was also very cool to show Max and her as a sister. No matter how they make faces, Maxine worries about her brother.
But Ginny was kind of upset. She brought everything back to herself...
by the way, their performance was great. Costumes are fire 🔥🔥🔥

Ginny is so self-centered. How can you be so close to a person and still not notice their condition? if she had thought a little about him and taken care of his well-being, there might not have been a breakup.

I understand Marcus with all my heart. They showed it realistically. It is impossible to carry two cuckoos — one's own and a partner's - at the same time. You can try while the endorphins are pumping, but it won't last long. I live with it myself, I don't recommend it, 0/10.
Ginny, as usual, only thinks about herself. I kept waiting for her to at least ask him what was going on with him, but no.

Max was perfectly dressed for the production, such a Cruella turned out a little bit.

I understand that Netflix likes to bring up the topic of BLM, but here we see too much of it and it catches the eye. A theatrical production where the main roles were given to black people; literature lessons where the teacher assigned Ginny a special task; the conflict between Ginny and Georgia and the accusation "you don't understand".
The topic is important, but its presentation is intrusive.

The scene between Ginny and Marcus is as playful as possible on Ginny's part.
"I need you"
"You promised me"
"You said You Loved"
Remind me how many times Ginny has dumped her problems on Marcus and how many times she has listened to him, not to mention some help or support from her.
"Do you even care that I'm in pain?!"But, Ginny, do you care about your lover's condition? It's written on his forehead, and you're blind. I'm sorry, I can barely get this hero out, she annoys me so much.

And I just started to get into the pair of Ginny and Marcus (Garkus)...((

Are there any adequate and happy people in this series? Just The Floor?

I didn't understand Ginny's hysteria at all, just a torrent of words mixed with tears, incomprehensible accusations. It seems that up to this point, Marcus had no intention of breaking up with her, he just did not argue when she said so. I said so much, but I didn't think to ask him what was on his mind at least now, although it was clear before this episode that he had problems🤦🏻♀️

I've noticed this for a long time, but again I want to say what wonderful parents the Twins have, especially the father. Very nice, caring and supportive.
And Max, she's a drama Queen, of course, but she's so adorable!))
I can forgive her for all her tantrums and periodic self-obsession))

Ginny gets more and more annoying with each episode. She accused Maxine of thinking that the world revolved around her, and she was behaving even worse.

He seems to have "dumped" her and she's in tears, but nothing is jumping inside me and I don't feel a damn sorry for her. On the contrary, I am glad that Marcus threw this toxic bag away from himself.

God, I still want to drag Ginny in.

Why did Georgia kill Cynthia's husband?

The best performance and songs from all the TV series that I've seen!

Marcus is very handsome and a very nice guy.

And Maxine! Facial expressions, images. Adore.

And their parents are very good. This family is the decoration of the series

They're going to get me now, but I understand both Ginny and Marcus. As Marcus himself said, "it's impossible to understand what's in another person's head." Marcus doesn't have the courage to say that he's broken, Ginny is broken herself and can't help Marcus. The situation is terrible, actually.

Ginny is not worthy of Marcus.

The performance turned out to be very good! Everyone is so good. The very idea of the production was somewhat reminiscent of the Bridgertons.
It feels like a lot of things haven't been shown in this series, maybe in the next ones. Who told Ginny that Marcus wanted to break up, what Georgia and Cynthia were talking about in the kitchen, what happened to the couple on their anniversary, Ginny was hardly in the series at all. Marcus said in the dialogue that he couldn't stand someone else's pain, and she didn't even ask what kind of pain he felt?! Well, what kind of selfish?!
Joe is such a sweetheart ❤️ It's clear that Cynthia needed it too, but he apologized anyway. Cynthia beautifully saved Georgia from a quarrel with her ex. Well, what kind of shot?

As I understand it, this episode was made with an emphasis on other characters, and not on Georgia and Ginny (which is why a lot of things seem to remain behind the camera), because I did not understand Ginny's reaction during the performance and their subsequent quarrel.

In this episode, Marcus and Joe were highlighted. Marcus finally showed his depression, and Joe's dark side - that he's not such a sweet guy, as Cynthia claims. By the way, thank you for quickly winding down their romance.

I'm also shocked that Georgia strangled Cynthia's husband, but I think we'll explain everything in the next episode, plus Gil definitely threatened Georgia in this episode, and considering what Cynthia saw, maybe it has something to do with helping her dying husband so that both he and she don't suffer anymore.

But Ginny and Marcus' fight was super weird. OK, Marcus has depression, but it would be better if he didn't have a relationship at all, but Ginny is blind in principle, because she's the only one in her field of vision. I don't feel sorry for her as much as possible.

I'm sorry for Marcus, fortunately I've never been so depressed, but I think I understand the state when you just don't have the strength, either mentally or physically, and you barely exist on your own. And Ginny, she might have tried to help him, but she would have done it in her own style, probably when there was a lot of fuss and fuss - and this on a good day when she wouldn't tell him about her problems 24 hours a day. Therefore, it seems to me that he did the right thing by not explaining anything. Everything is short and to the point.

But here... I wanted to justify Ginny before that, I thought, damn, the girl has a lot of problems, if she doesn't notice, then you can understand her, she wants everything to be fine in at least one area of her life. But... Markus clearly said, "I'm not enough for someone else's pain right now." Is that what it means? That mysterious phrase? I would have asked. And Ginny? She hadn't noticed. Apparently, she perceives him only in the context of how he treats her, and not as a person with his own problems.

Poor Marcus. Ginny, as always, thinks only of herself and doesn't notice anything around her. From the outside, you can see how her boyfriend is suffering, but she doesn't see it right away. I hope they don't lead to his suicide.

I wouldn't be surprised if Austin was the one who shot Georgia. It's hard to see what he saw.…

I'm glad we spent more time with Marcus and Max in this episode, but it's painful to watch him. Obviously, he really doesn't have enough room for someone's pain anymore...

And I didn't really understand why Ginny suddenly got offended again and started yelling at Marcus. Instead of at least asking him what's going on and telling him that she thinks he's changed. She immediately decided that he wanted to leave her, without even knowing the reasons for the change in his behavior. Everything has to revolve around her, and other people can't have their own reasons for being sad or anything else unrelated to her.

And the shot at the end of the episode is very alarming... And the situation with Tom.

I also liked that Cynthia saw that something was wrong in the conversation between Gil and Georgia and intervened in it. It showed her at her best.

I would also like to know more about Abby, it hurts me every time she is touched on the subject of her body, and no one suspects that she has rpp :(

Ginny is such a stupid, selfish bitch. Marcus tells her, "I don't have the energy to hurt anyone else." and she ignores this phrase. He doesn't hear that he's in pain. and she keeps whining so that he doesn't leave her, and how unhappy she is. as much as possible

Now Georgia's two children already know that their mother is a murderer. I'm sorry about Austin, it's going to come back.

I've been worried about Marcus all the previous episodes, finally, at least someone paid attention to him. Ginny - no comment. The most unloved character

Did they set up the Bridgertons?!

I'm sorry, but Ginny is just a DISGUSTING girl. In a healthy relationship, both partners should invest something. When one person feels bad, the other helps, and vice versa, rather than enduring their own mental pain, they also accept it from the person they love. Ginny, as usual, can't see any further than her nose, the whole world revolves around her, she's the only one suffering and in need of help, and no one else. I don't understand how you can not see how much your partner feels bad, or in the streams of other people's pity for her, she doesn't have time for this. Just a moody, spoiled girl in a transitional comeback who thinks the whole universe is against her. Mega annoying character

And I liked the flashbacks from Joe's youth. He wasn't too cocky, but he wasn't a pushover, he didn't hurt anyone, and he dealt with those who offended him beautifully and wittily.

I am absolutely delighted with how the topic of mental health is being seriously and deeply explored this season.

I can't believe the scene of Ginny and Marcus breaking up. And it's not interesting to watch them as a couple. The scenes with them look completely indifferent.

I'm terribly sorry... I want to discuss Austin.... What is it? What the hell? He sees his mother killing a man.... Ginny is a little bit.... She hesitated!

Marcus: I can't take anyone else's pain (subtext: I feel bad, it hurts, help me!)
Ginny just ignored this hidden cry for help and focused on herself again...

💘

during Ginny's "fiery" speech, all she could think was "ugh, what an egotist," Marcus was obviously having a hard time, and she was only thinking about herself

Georgia once said that Ginny would bring a lot of good to this world (or whatever it was)
Um, Georgia, I love you, of course, but your daughter is clearly a "lump".
I don't understand how you can fail to notice that something is wrong with the person you gave birth to (or participated in the conception of xs, what else can you call it) and raised?🤔 a person was literally formed with you and with your help.... by the age of 16 , I would like to learn every emotion
Abs and Abby whoo
I hope this isn't some kind of disgusting way for Abby to "stay afloat."

Markus' monologue is very strong at the beginning, everything is in fact, how close it is

and here it is again that Georgia does not want to change - another murder, and it is not clear why at all..I feel sorry for Austin. And Georgia is a real murderer who must be punished. Everything she does is indefensible.

- Max will be offended if you don't watch the ending.
- I don't care
how hypocritical it is! it's hypocritical to pass your problems on to others, expressing it with ignorance and lack of mood
, defended Ginny throughout the season, but then she broke through the bottom, very ugly
, and what even happened? why did Ginny think he was leaving, he was the only one who paid attention to her, was alive with her

Max is great in the play, I hope she doesn't get along with Sophie.

In the last scene with Marcus and Ginny, I saw only a provocation from Ginny. * You realize that you will never kiss me and this is the end *.
I was in such a situation, and this is the most stupid provocation from the category of *I'm the best, and you're nobody without me*. I am glad that Marcus has a sister and parents who are worried about him.

What a tough and sad episode it turned out to be...

There was nothing on behalf of the main characters, but so many details. I was blown away by the scene when Austin witnessed his mother kill Cynthia's husband. Seriously. This scene shocked me. Poor boy. I think Georgia did it from... Um, good intentions? As strange as it may sound. Perhaps Cynthia herself said that this whole situation was preventing her from moving on, but Georgia wanted to "help". I don't know.

Who told Ginny about Marcus's words about breaking up? Max? In this scene in the hallway, they probably deliberately emphasized Ginny's words about himself, about the fact that he would not be able to kiss her and so on.

Another scene where Cynthia noticed how Austin's father grabbed Georgia and came to the rescue. Wow. I wonder if the next episode will show the reverse side of what happened?

Marcus. Sun. It was immediately clear that it was very difficult for him. And his phrase that it is difficult for him to bear his own pain, let alone someone else's... It's in the very heart. I hope he doesn't want to do anything to himself.

I hope they'll start opening up about Abby, too. It seems she and this guy aren't exactly at loggerheads after all, since they're looking at each other like that.

God, I hope Cynthia and Georgia are just up to something to get Gale out of the game so he can leave.

How I understand Marcus.... Sometimes you don't even have the strength to get up and wash, let alone date someone. And Ginny brought everything back to herself.... She has a selfish nature, she doesn't care about others, and she's the only one with problems.

God, send me a job seeker like Joe in his restaurant. 😒

Ginny is a little tired of her egocentrism. Maxine makes statements about her self-obsession, but she hasn't gone far from it herself. Actually, all the teenagers in this series are traumatized, that's it! There is not a single healthy child. Visual aid for parents.

God, Austin, poor kid 💔

Ginny brought up the conversation about the breakup herself, interpreted Marcus' words as she wanted and broke up with herself. Well done girl

And Max could have told her that her brother was depressed, and then maybe they would have thought about the reason for the breakup together and found another way out.

Ginny shit! She has an emergency, Fu is just annoying

Jeannie is so selfish, Oh my god ....

I am truly sorry for Marcus. He was very wise and patient with Ginny all season, listened to her, gave her advice, supported her. And how he needed help, how this bad woman threw a tantrum.

How can you be so selfish as!? Well, her grater with her mother pushed everything down to the fact that she was a teenager, and they had no awareness. I don't understand, I wasn't that kind of teenager. But here's your fucking loved one - it's written on his face how bad he feels!!! He comes to school drunk!!!!

And you're fucking talking about yours. You promised to love me and all that. Ugh, fuck. If I still had a drop of sympathy for Ginny, and it evaporated.

They made a villain out of Georgia again, so why did she go to someone else's man!? Well, Cynthia would have suffered further, what does it matter to her!!!

She's definitely not on her way with this mayor, and I feel like there won't be any wedding. Joe is the ideal option for her, and it turns out that he is not as simple as it seems. Or at least Ginny's father. In the first season, I desperately shippered them.

But not this mayor for sure

The series is very intense. ‘There is no place in me for someone else's pain.’ 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻 I really liked the performance and the song performed by Breisha and Maxine! Maxine looked amazing, the makeup was gorgeous, as was the dress. Georgina arranges traumas for children for free without SMS and registration.

I feel sorry for Marcus. I hope he doesn't shut himself in.

There is tension in the season right now

And I have a question for Marcus, damn well, Gini was as Frank as possible with him, shared everything...why was he silent about his condition?

Finally, the feelings of the other characters were shown at least a little. I feel sorry for Marcus, he feels so bad that any relationship is a burden. As I understand it. The topic is very, very difficult and important. Depression is not just a fiction and a bad mood. It's a disease and it's really hard to live with.

A series with the maximum number of fucked- up scenes 🤦♀️ Why would Sophie want to mess with Maxine again if she just sent her. Why would Georgia kill someone else's husband without making sure that the children weren't hiding in this room? Where did Cynthia go for so long when Georgia said that her husband was everything. I barely watched the scene with Marcus and Ginny. Her whining and turning the arrows on her own feelings got to her.

I understand Marcus too well.
But you don't have to blame Ginny either. Even adults don't always understand how to recognize a depressed person if they haven't encountered one before, especially a teenager like her. And even if she understood, getting a person out of depression is a herculean task.

Ginny in this episode infuriated with her egocentrism. Well, think about it, choose your words, talk normally, no, what did I do wrong?!"mb, a lot of people suffered from this as a teenager, but I just can't stand it. And yes, do you love? Really? how can you say that you love someone you can't tell is dyin'?

Well, objectively, Max with the lead role would look much better in the lead role. an absolutely unfair choice. and that's how many TV shows I've watched where the topic of racism is touched upon, nowhere has it been raised in such a vile form as here. Ginny's fucked up, she can't see any further than her nose. "problems", "discrimination ", "misunderstanding" she has in everything. the screenwriters created just the apogee of the abomination

Cynthia said a wonderful phrase that explains her relationship with Joe. "We both learned what we wanted to learn. Even if not with those with whom they wanted, but they got it."
Maybe after these words, those who wrote "why this couple at all, how did they get together?" will finally understand the meaning.

I like that going to a therapist is the norm in this series.

Joe ogo's past was revealed to us in this episode. I did not imagine him to be such a schoolboy 😂

The moment when Ginny and Marcus walk down the hallway is an acute characterization of her attitude towards people this season. It hurts to watch. Joe is the perfect man. Ginny threw a tantrum with nothing. What kind of nonsense is this? I'm your Ginny, but don't hug or look at me?

If the guys in the musical sing with their own voices, then they are very talented! Maxine is especially beautiful and expressive :)

Well, at least Max somehow supported Marcus. And for parents like him, his condition did not go unnoticed. Only Ginny is a blind chuchundra, concerned only with herself and her problems.

Joe and Padma have the same eyes! And generally similar. I just found out that they are brother and sister of a lifetime.

The scene where Marcus is trying to explain himself to Ginny is physically hard. It's also ironic that Ginny thinks Marcus understands her the best, but it turns out that she doesn't understand him at all and doesn't feel the way he feels about her.

I think it's like going to the bathroom for Georgia.
It's a pity for Austin that he witnessed and carried this burden all his life (

I understand that I don't even have the strength to love Marcus.. I hope his parents will help him 💔


Ginny can also be understood when someone tells you that I love you, then your friend says that your boyfriend wants to leave you and all you hear from him is "it's about me." Unfortunately, yes, Ginny at the age of 16 is not well-developed enough to please everyone with her actions))

Ginny didn't understand at all at the moment when they broke up with Marcus, she literally dumped and blamed everything on him, but she didn't even listen to him.

God, I want to slap Ginny on the head. Selfish and narcissistic trash.

It's so funny that the main characters, after whom the series is named, are actually no longer particularly interesting to watch. From Georgia, who continues to create a lot of problems around her out of thin air, although she is already doing relatively well, you feel some kind of fatigue and satiety. I'm not talking about Ginny at all. Very often, the people who brand others the loudest (like how she called Max selfish) are guilty of the same thing, and a hundred times worse. I don't know if teenagers are teenagers, but she constantly has a total lack of empathy for all the other people in her life, completely ignoring them unless they talk about her and her problems. Moreover, apart from the fact that her mother is a murderer, the others also have quite difficult situations. Parents' divorce, apparent RPP, apparent depressive phase, the first painful separation. But no, is that a problem? Is it literature lessons! You need to fuck up the drama, because the teacher asked you to offer books about the life and culture of YOUR people, about whose oppression you scream the loudest.

In short, the line of Max, Marcus, even Abby is much more interesting now. You really feel understanding and empathy for them.
It's also interesting to learn more about young Joe (to be honest, the vibes of another Joe from him, who is from "You"). Apparently, he will be revealed as Georgia in the minimals, so that in the end they will be left alone, fully understanding and accepting each other.

Ginny makes my teeth ache and I want to punch her through the screen...Please, I can't 😫