Kendall at the beginning of the series looked exactly the same as in the very first series - clothes, hairstyle, listened to hip-hop on the way to the first day of work as a Chief. The deal with Matsson is more complicated than it seems. I think Shiv made an agreement with him, because not even a day has passed since Kendall started to hound, and Roman is starting to go crazy with grief, and she wants to get her share. Jerry, Caroline and even Tom were not on the list of abbreviations thanks to Shiv. And she didn't drink or snort at their meeting, so the baby stays. However, it's amazing that it's like they're bringing her and Tom together again, I thought all the feelings there had long since died)
Yelled at Frank and Carl with compression socks on the plane. They don't want to die like Logan.
@Noordzee: Socks are a complete delight.))) How they jewelerily built this half-joking line of blame for Logan's death - the children threatened to disrupt the deal (put on a plane), Matson did not want to talk on the phone (also a plane), Carrie was flying-so beauty without socks.))
@Noordzee: I suspect that it is Tom who brings Shiv and Tom together. He realized that without someone's protection he could not survive there. Shiv is the best candidate.
I meant the screenwriters) I'm worried about Shiv and that a woman's fate will come to her. He wanted to tie her up as a child just last season, when he thought he would sit down
@Noorthis was shown to us by dzee: About the list, I think so- Caroline was pushed by Shiv, this was shown to us, Tom is also possible by her, so that there was an opportunity to put pressure on him, or do as I say or you will be kicked out of figs. But Jerry has been quietly working on Matson for a long time, she got burned when she insisted on a photo with a handshake, Logan immediately realized this.
Very intrigued by what Shiv's personal game will turn out to be, I completely agree with the first comment that she clearly agreed with Matsson. It's a pity for Roman, but he had to be covered at some point. And the whole scene with his monologue to Matsson is just bravo Kiran, I forgot how to breathe. I have no idea how the series will end, and we have already crossed the equator.
– 187 together with ATN. – ATN is my father's personal project, we cannot sell it, we will deal with it and develop it, we are professionals, we are heirs. - 192. - Sold.
@Ouks: they just already realized that here they will not break the deal in any way, the council simply will not allow it. With 187 it was possible to dig
@Lavash: Let's even assume that they are strategists and calculated the chain that you described. But please note that up to this point, their sales strategy has been wagging in opposite directions three times without objective reasons. Sell at 143, then sell at 147, then not sell at 187, then sell at 192. In a similar way, they planned to buy Pierce.
@Ouks: Let's say?... This is a two-step "chain", anyone could do it. Next, the numbers that you name are literally not correct: 143 and 147 were numbers without ATN, 187 and 192 are taking into account ATN. And initially, in principle, they did not want to give away ATN. So everything is logical
How beautifully the episodes are written - Kendall and Roman wanted to merge the deal, but in the end they got a price that even Logan would not have achieved. They won for everyone, but they were actually closer to losing, since they didn't need the money. + Shiv, who also played a role and achieved her goal, but what will happen in a couple of days is unknown. In general, it is very interesting what awaits us next, half of the season is over and I understand 1 episode = 1 day.
Well, I'm very glad that Roman expressed everything to Metson. Even though he said he was coping fine after Logan, it was clear that he was on the verge. Kieran played this moment smartly. It's also funny that Shiv invited Tom to dinner after their last "skirmish", maybe this moment will save their marriage.
P.s. the old Guard continues to please, this season all the scenes with them are top. And in general, there are a lot of cool quotes in the episode, one Mettson is worth something.
The Viking is full-blooded, he will not lose. He flashed his naked torso, and pissed off the mountain, and drank, and sniffed - so that every viewer would understand who the most vital alpha male is here.
Once again they showed that the hardest drug is not money, but power. The sale of the ATN is a loss of power, Logan separated the ATN, said that it was not discussed, he needed power. If the Siblings had the brains to follow Logan Pearce's Shakespearean advice-"take the fucking money", it would be a happy ending for everyone. But they are their father's children, so there is still a lot to come, I can't even imagine how this story will end. I do not believe at all in the continuation of Tom and Shiv's relationship, to discuss custody, divorce-this is understandable, but no more. The Novel's monologue is wonderful, in fact it is, Matson could not wait for the funeral. I really like Karl this season, he alone raised a glass with a smile after the list of victims-give us money and "a plague on both your houses."
@lekil_kuxlejal: Well, Tom was chosen as a husband not out of love, but because he gave the impression at a difficult moment that he would not betray. "Remind me, why did you choose him?"-Lady Caroline. So now what does Siobhan need him for personally? She doesn't look like a masochist, and I think she has a lot of fans. And so far, we have been shown how she twitches, even if he is standing next to her. In business terms, they may still need each other.
@MII: "She doesn't look like a masochist" Well, I don't know, in the first seasons, she clearly tied herself to him through a sense of guilt: she told him about her infidelities, saw how it hurt him, felt guilty (albeit at the moment) and this "tied" her to him. And season 3 showed that she actually loves him too, although she did not understand it before, until he began to express his claims to her. So who knows)
I like that Shiv and Lucas are together. He said in the beginning that ATN is a toxic asset, Shiv of the same opinion, and all this is true. Shiv is generally the best of the three of them.
Kendall finally got to power and will cling now (he was already rolled back to the very first iteration, hip hop on the way to work that's all), and Roman was covered with feelings, he wants to leave the company purely out of sentimentality — this whole monologue of his is proof of that. The corpse of the father has not cooled down yet, they are already sharing something there in cold blood, and Roma did not even have time to realize the grief, he is in the denial stage now. It seems to me that for him to sell the company is like finishing off the last thing left of Logan.
And still I'm waiting and hoping that the company will collapse. Or that Matson would buy her anyway and fuck her up. Vaughn's old guard thinks he and his people are soft, toothless Europeans. Well well 🙃
@scarcelyinside: Matson is still an asshole, a "financial genius" damn, can you imagine Logan throwing bags of frozen blood at his ex. So he didn't go far from Kendal, he should have gone to rehab first.
@MII: well, he wouldn't have sent blood, but Logan was also an asshole, he would have figured out how to make life unbearable. And to be honest, in this series, everyone needs to go to rehab so that they touch the grass 🌱
@scarcelyinside: Yes, but not in the same obviously drug-addicted way, in the absence of children, I would just find another one)). And then it turns out that the new head immediately needs to be saved from reputational courts)) also creepy)).
@MII: You can imagine an order of magnitude worse from Logan. He just won't talk about it. And he did business in an era of less transparency, he had a bigger field for lawlessness.
Grey Cardinal Shiv, bravo)))her brothers did not underestimate her, of course, and in vain! I really liked the background, when Kendall and Roman are trying to get out of the situation, Shiv has already calculated the consequences) And the most important problem of the brothers is that they seem to have a common goal, but this uncertainty and inability to make a decision led to the fact that they were tricked, putting a high price on a deal that most interested parties will not be able to refuse) The next step is for those who are not included in the list: Tom, Jerry, Caroline and Greg led by Shiv, how to wait for next week) By the way, Roman clearly deserves an Emmy for his monologue to Matson))) How many emotions)
The good news is that the old Guard is not pushed into the background) Compression socks rule🤟
It's a bit of a passing series, only I liked the moment of the Affair with Mattson at the end. It's indicative how Kendall seems to be a CEO by himself, but it seems like he's half with Roman for decency, because they agreed, how surprised he was when Roman said he should call Shiv (yes, he's been calling her for discussions all series), Shiv is scheming behind the scenes and only Roman himself thinks they're doing all together, as originally agreed. Now I'm waiting for his move and a smirk (we got Kendall with Hugo and Shiv at the end of two episodes) when he finds out that Kendall is leaking news about his father and Shiv's contract with Mattson through Hugo. The baby is no longer a baby.
Roman needs to get back to Jerry, since alone he is still too attached to his father, which completely affects his business behavior. On the other hand, with his obvious growth, there is no feeling at all that he needs any power at all. He would like to promote these startups with siblings, and not this is all a big deal
I notice a detail that Ken is the only one who hasn't openly told Greg to go to hell for a very long time. Everyone clearly makes it clear to him that he is a stranger here and is not fucking needed, and one Ken stands up for him, says "he is his own" and all that. Is it really a shame how he interfered with his shit at the party? Well, about Greg - hz, why did they add this line, that he became some kind of womanizer, I don't feel anything from scenes with this new trait of his except for kringe. My only assumption is that they want to show that he is not only a naive fool, but also the same vile character as everyone else, otherwise he is painfully lost in the image of an innocent fool at everyone's beck and call. Well, I feel sorry for Tom, of course. Shiv shows him over and over again that she has his balls in her fist and she will play with them until she gets tired of it
@Lavash: And it seems to me that this is how the writers show us the changes in the character. I immediately watched the entire series up to the current episode, and this season I have a feeling that Greg is too much like Tom from the first season, and more specifically from the very first series. I was catching a fierce kringe from him and absolutely did not understand at that moment how he and Shiv got together. Now. of course, Tom is already a different character and his growth is noticeable to the naked eye, but Greg is just from a simple and, in some ways, naive character, becomes a local buffoon, which, in my opinion, we were shown the hero of McFadden in the first series. I want to believe that such transformations are not accidental)
@Kach_Kach: I also watched right up to the third episode of this season... And for me, somewhere at the moment when a pretty PR woman agrees to a date with Greg, the character seems to have been replaced. This is clearly not accidental, but so far I am wildly cringing from every scene with him.
@Lavash: I'm still hoping that Greg's character will shoot somewhere. And in such a way that we are all going to be awesome here, as it was with Tom, for example. Otherwise, he's just some kind of useless character, and this series is not of the level to have useless characters
It's unlikely that the writers will do it, but I would be glad to pair Shiv and Matson. Something had slipped between them. Needless to say, Lucas is a real handsome and alpha man, so how much can you slip her a mean Tom who offers his services to everyone, this man is clearly not the level of a shrewd and intelligent Shiv. I want love for this beautiful heroine.
@caerdroia: I think the scriptwriters are reasoning like you, why would such a cool girl need a man worthy of her, let her have a relationship with a traitor and a mumbler Tom, who does not know who to offer his service to in order to continue to be a leech and pull everything out of his wife's family, because objectively, he himself he is not capable of creating a company like the one that his father-in-law created. Unlike the character of the mind -blowing Skarsgard 💁🏻♀️
@Irson: is a decent man a rich man who sent packages of his blood to a subordinate?) moreover, Shiv clearly does not need an alpha, she needs to be the main one in the relationship, Logan also talked about this in the first season, it seems
- I do not know what to do, can I hug you or will you then accuse me of harassment? A subtle jibe towards the bacchanalia that is happening in America right now)
Well, guys, I don't know, it seems to me that Mattson is a hardened shark and all this nonsense with liters of blood is an obvious divorce of Shiv, and she was led again as she once was with her father (Mattson probably chose her for processing with this in mind). And now she is his personal "rat". Even the behavior of Ebb (the "recipient of blood briquettes") shows that this is a performance. Roman Krasava, the speech at the globe, the obvious top 1 of the family, has received the greatest development as a character, while the rest are stepping on the same rake
I thought I was watching the first episode because of Ken's "cool" trip , my God..!! duet Tom+Greg = Spanish shame is a nightmare!! they haven't gained any experience in all these seasons, as if. both at the beginning and now you look at the children and think that they are not fumbling for anything and can't really organize anything...
but the series is fire. beauty. this turnaround with a deal is what you need
Yes... it's hard for the guys without a folder. In negotiations with Mattson, their toothlessness is especially felt. Due to the fact that they themselves do not understand what to do with the deal, the decision to sabotage it looks extremely infantile. And so, quite a natural result - the seasoned Matson brothers outplayed and humiliated, interpersonally naturally. But as kittens, the right word. For their own, they are winners, but they themselves understand everything... A photo from Shiv is attached... Ehh, the more interesting it is, what will happen to them next))
@Hellfrozenrain: outplayed and humiliated? The fact that they received 5 million (or billions, I'm confused in English terminology) dollars more than they wanted? And at the same time remained in positions?
How cool it was to show which Logan's children are still children. It's like the first graders were brought on an excursion to the campus to the graduates of the university)
Yelled at Frank and Carl with compression socks on the plane. They don't want to die like Logan.
– ATN is my father's personal project, we cannot sell it, we will deal with it and develop it, we are professionals, we are heirs.
- 192.
- Sold.
Next, the numbers that you name are literally not correct: 143 and 147 were numbers without ATN, 187 and 192 are taking into account ATN. And initially, in principle, they did not want to give away ATN. So everything is logical
Well, I'm very glad that Roman expressed everything to Metson. Even though he said he was coping fine after Logan, it was clear that he was on the verge. Kieran played this moment smartly. It's also funny that Shiv invited Tom to dinner after their last "skirmish", maybe this moment will save their marriage.
P.s. the old Guard continues to please, this season all the scenes with them are top. And in general, there are a lot of cool quotes in the episode, one Mettson is worth something.
He flashed his naked torso, and pissed off the mountain, and drank, and sniffed - so that every viewer would understand who the most vital alpha male is here.
I do not believe at all in the continuation of Tom and Shiv's relationship, to discuss custody, divorce-this is understandable, but no more.
The Novel's monologue is wonderful, in fact it is, Matson could not wait for the funeral.
I really like Karl this season, he alone raised a glass with a smile after the list of victims-give us money and "a plague on both your houses."
Well, I don't know, in the first seasons, she clearly tied herself to him through a sense of guilt: she told him about her infidelities, saw how it hurt him, felt guilty (albeit at the moment) and this "tied" her to him.
And season 3 showed that she actually loves him too, although she did not understand it before, until he began to express his claims to her.
So who knows)
Kendall finally got to power and will cling now (he was already rolled back to the very first iteration, hip hop on the way to work that's all), and Roman was covered with feelings, he wants to leave the company purely out of sentimentality — this whole monologue of his is proof of that. The corpse of the father has not cooled down yet, they are already sharing something there in cold blood, and Roma did not even have time to realize the grief, he is in the denial stage now. It seems to me that for him to sell the company is like finishing off the last thing left of Logan.
And still I'm waiting and hoping that the company will collapse. Or that Matson would buy her anyway and fuck her up. Vaughn's old guard thinks he and his people are soft, toothless Europeans. Well well 🙃
By the way, Roman clearly deserves an Emmy for his monologue to Matson))) How many emotions)
The good news is that the old Guard is not pushed into the background) Compression socks rule🤟
Well, about Greg - hz, why did they add this line, that he became some kind of womanizer, I don't feel anything from scenes with this new trait of his except for kringe. My only assumption is that they want to show that he is not only a naive fool, but also the same vile character as everyone else, otherwise he is painfully lost in the image of an innocent fool at everyone's beck and call.
Well, I feel sorry for Tom, of course. Shiv shows him over and over again that she has his balls in her fist and she will play with them until she gets tired of it
Now. of course, Tom is already a different character and his growth is noticeable to the naked eye, but Greg is just from a simple and, in some ways, naive character, becomes a local buffoon, which, in my opinion, we were shown the hero of McFadden in the first series. I want to believe that such transformations are not accidental)
Roman Krasava, the speech at the globe, the obvious top 1 of the family, has received the greatest development as a character, while the rest are stepping on the same rake
, my God..!! duet Tom+Greg = Spanish shame
is a nightmare!! they haven't gained any experience in all these seasons, as if. both at the beginning and now you look at the children and think that they are not fumbling for anything and can't really organize anything...
but the series is fire. beauty. this turnaround with a deal is what you need
И сцена на горе, ну красавчик же?! Всё закономерно, заслуженная Эмми🫶🏻