s04e10 — With Open Eyes
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| Duration: | 90 min. |
| Released: | 28.05.202329.05.2023 04:00 |
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I didn't expect it to end this way.
But it was very good.
I don't know yet, Shiv did it because of a better position with Tom, or just to show that she has some voice and not let her brother win, but after 4 seasons of naive Shiv, who thinks she's smarter than everyone, I'm not even surprised by her move. The scene with Tom in the car is another gorgeous moment of the finale. How the dynamics have changed - once she married this "small" person against her background, now everything has changed, she is in his shadow. Kendall is broken, Roman is devastated (the "we are bullshit" scene is great), but they have become free in a sense. Maybe Ken will survive this and finally devote time to the children, maybe it's good that he won't become the new Logan. Roman was smiling at the end, too. Connor (the real eldest son) is also happy in his own way, I also liked the video with Logan, where he was (there was no trinity). But the loser seems to me just Shiv, wanted to get out the most, but the only one who remained tied to the company (even if not directly).
Well, Tom... almost the most beloved character was at the top. I even noted in the last episode that Mattson could choose him, after all, they showed that Tom was a good worker, and it turned out that way. Also, this scene with Greg, where he marked him with a sticker, after everything (even a small fight) he kept this Sporus for himself, is also one of the favorite moments of the finale.
In general, mixed feelings, someone will like the ending, someone will not, but it is good and there is even a piece of beauty in this outcome, after all, it all comes down to Logan's words about "you're not serious people", which perfectly describes all children. In general, there are a lot of emotions in fact, it will be necessary to revise the finale, somehow I haven't even realized yet that the series is really over.
In general, I would be happy even if the finale was a ninety-minute scene with a blender.
The funny thing is that they would all be much happier just doing what they did in the first episode of the season - buying Piers and running their own business.
Roman is just glad that he finally got it off his shoulders.
Kendall turned out to be a creep, going to any humiliation to persuade Shiv.
Shiv was choosing between losing pride to her brother or losing pride to her husband.
Tom was taller than Shiv for the first time. The shot in the car is great, as he condescendingly offers her his hand. Just like some frame from a House of Cards. He's the king now.
Well, Greg. The frame with the sticker made me laugh. Tom did-castrated Greg and married him, as promised. He now belongs to him completely.
As a result, two children, because of their pride, could not make concessions, Roman seems to me the only one who is fine.
Connor's funny open ending.
Well, a great scene with a TV and a virtual dinner with dad. It is ironic that the children saw their father like this - laughing and sincere - only on TV. Except Connor. Maybe he just won in the end, since he was the only one who was there.
Interesting disassembly behind glass walls. For the umpteenth time in the series, I thought Ken would jump off the roof. He said it right, he can only do one thing, and he doesn't have that anymore. He is no father, he will never forgive Shiv, Roman is not the fact that he himself wants to communicate with him. It will be the same with a security guard in a cafe, like Logan. Well, from a plot point of view, it was clear that it could not be him. It should have been him in the first episode. If Kendall had won in the end, then there would have been no point in four seasons. He had to win - he won
When he talks to Ken and points at his stitches, hysterically saying that "It looks fine", he is afraid that people will decide that Roman is not experiencing loss and "is in a bad place", and that he "pussied out" at the last moment. He's upset that the stitches look fine, that he doesn't look worse, because the bruises on his face were supposed to be an excuse for handing over all the laurels to Kendal. When he sees Jerry, the first thing he does is look at himself in the mirror and realizes that he looks more than normal and gets scared. He wants to seem cool to others, but one small seam will not be a sufficient excuse in his eyes, and that's what he tells Ken. The same, realizing what this means, presses his shoulder on his beatings, perversely helps out his brother and returns him to the ranks. "Now everyone will accept your defeat with respect."
I can explain it differently.
The novel is shattered, because his father was his mainstay.
Yes, he relied on a sharp bayonet, but he adapted
and does not know how to do anything else - only support through pain, through shame, through humiliation.
(and he himself provides support in the same way - insulting, mocking, omitting).
He also rushed into the crowd to be trampled.
And it became easier: despair was dulled, replaced by apathy.
And then the relatives drove up, and as always - with podebkami.
Spitting, dirty tricks, pranks - God, how good, life goes on. Again, someone pushes him, directs him. Supports!
And cheerfully strode on.
but SUDDENLY
Behind the glass is Jerry.
that MOMENT! when he broke down
frozen
dead
Jerry! which I didn'T expect.
Jerry, who is mortally offended and threatens to make public his dickpicks!
His funny pipirka.
He will lose face.
Forever.
Terrified, he refuses to go out in public at all. Hide, disappear!! "No, I'm not going there!"
but IT IS NECESSARY
Ken is perplexed: what happened? Babbling "you could also become the boss, and I'm just here for a sign" - Ken has only a struggle for power and self-affirmation in his head, he can't imagine anything else. Promises buns: "PR, social networks..." Rum shrugs off: that's not the point! Not that, not that!
But the brother opens his arms. Here is your support...
It was then that Rum grabbed his face, feverishly, convulsively crumpled it, slammed it into his brother - not feeling pain, or maybe reveling in pain, losing his last chance to remain a public person, to preserve his post, influence, former life.
"You're a fucking bastard, I hate you!" - but I'll go and crown you.
........................
I can give you a couple more interpretations, but why.
........................
By the way, the last facial cramp was before photographing, Rom coped,
and at the end we see his face - smoothed, peaceful,
and surprisingly - almost
beautiful in its own way.
Ken seems to forget about Connor all the time, considers himself the eldest son. This is very unfair to Connor. Even if you imagine that they are like the Windsors and gender and age decide something.
It is significant that Shiv did not remember Connor, the real eldest son, but remembered the dead waiter.
Roman will remain an unpleasant rich boy with dirty witty jokes.
Shiv is in the game, but rather as a decoration to the fact that the relationship between them is unlikely to develop after what has been said to each other and will remain at the point where they are now.
For Kendall, the defeat in the vote will remain the main event of his life, because of this, his goal will be to try to build his father's empire, but the chances of success are negligible.
The inner devastation from the ending, I was rooting for Kendall to the last, although I understood that he was unlikely to win, but at least he was given a few hours to imagine himself in his father's place. The final, indeed, placed everyone perfectly in their places.
A great series, one of the best in history, the acting in season 4 just went to some level unattainable for other modern TV series, the case when if the cast does not take all the Emmys, the award can be canceled, however, Success should take everything in all categories where it will be nominated. I'm glad that Jesse Armstrong realized in the process of writing season 4 that the story should end now. Here and HBO are well done, another network would have milked such a project to the last, but here: "The final? Well and good."
But Shiv of course somehow doesn't like him very much and didn't love him.
As in the first season, she was stupidly against Kendall being at the helm for no obvious reason, even to her own detriment, so here.
It turns out that for the series she ruined her career and a good independent position to become Tom's wife)
Maybe she just needed Tom so badly, because she is not able to create and maintain relationships with anyone else, even with her brothers?
Roman seemed to always remain true to himself - he worked for opportunities, moved on if it didn't work out. Kendall took risks and lost, but at least he was doing something and he had logic, strategy. Connor has his own plans and he is gradually achieving them. And Shiv... she sabotages everything in her life.
I think the siblings will do better further, but the company does not have a fact. Shiv will most likely be doing about nothing, or some kind of imitation of violent activity, Kendall will buy some other business or start his own, Roman will treat the cuckoo, Connor will continue what he is doing.
But Mettson looks like the creator of a bubble company. No matter how it all started to go bankrupt, like Netflix and they all stayed at the broken trough)
However, Tom and Greg will clearly survive. The series showed well that such people will never disappear, and that the typical story "everything will work out if you believe in yourself" is not true. Neither talent, nor hard work for the result, nor qualifications are important. The ability to twist and adjust, to endure and wait is important. Such a debunking of a typical myth about success)
Maybe that's why she wanted to be with Tom - he hit her the same way, on the most painful points, and he was serious, and not teasing like Roman
Rum also hurt Kendall, but at least Roman had a reason.
in general, I am very happy with the ending! I was rooting against everyone, but not because they are terrible people (and they are terrible people, we know), but because otherwise the cycle of abuse cannot be broken. it's a pity, of course, that shiv remained inside, albeit in a decorative quality
and happy award season to Kieran Kalkin, of course
"What-- But-- Which?"
"What do you mean, "WHICH"?"
простите, все еще не отпускает
Despite the fact that the series is about business, huge corporations, etc., first of all for me it is about a dysfunctional family, about love, about how the injuries of our fathers affect our lives. About how people like Logan become giants, and maybe if it wasn't for his injuries and childhood, he probably wouldn't have become the Logan we know. But at what cost? And was it even worth it? And obviously, all the children were traumatized by their father, but they never had to succeed from the bottom. And I think that Lucas and Tom are exactly like that in their own way and that's why they won. The real power will be behind Lucas and Tom, although he will be a convenient person, but he will always find an opportunity to snatch his piece and cling to the top. Anyway, for Logan's children, this is an opportunity to be free (especially for Roman, who apparently could not imagine working in a company without a father. And it's not all for him). Kendall, though, will try to achieve Logan's success, but it's really unlikely that he will get it. And Shiv... she will be the CEO's wife. In general, I would like them all to undergo therapy, not to let injuries ruin their children already and let their father go. But this is apparently possible only in some parallel universe))
Shiv is a snake. I got what I deserved. He will now obey Tom.
Rum - now he will be able to really get high in life without thinking about the burden of inheritance on his shoulders.
Ken is a huge blow for him, but if he considers himself a leader, he will definitely get together and do something of his own. Of course, maybe he won't create the same empire, but he will definitely be the leader of his company. It's a big challenge for him.
Continuation? It is better to leave everything as it is, as the ending of Nolan's "Beginning".
Remember, Don Draper from "Mad Men" was a model of a well-written complex character? So, there's a whole bunch of them. Stunningly.
The scenario is incredible.
The scene with the blender, the scene with the video of dinner with Logan, and the most interesting one is where the trio swears behind the glass.
"I'm the eldest boy" is a ridiculous argument. Finally, the murder shotgun went off, Ken also received Logan's claims about "non-native" children from above.
And then the voiceless Shiv, pregnant with the only blood heir of this farce! Did she think about it when she voted "yes", or was it out of a desire to annoy Ken and show that she means something. Maybe she won in her head, but you can see how the dynamics between her and Tom have changed. Although the Volume is replaceable, it's a trivial matter for Lucas to merge it, because there are many worthy candidates.
I was pleased with the Novel with the revelation that the three of them are nothing, this is generally a strong piece with the recognition of their defeat as continuers of the cause. And his smile in the bar is good, he clearly felt better without all this and Logan's looming shadow. Kendall, if he doesn't kill himself, it's only because Colin follows him everywhere. The open final is a curious decision for Connor, he has always been a little apart from the rest.
The caste is simply "phenomenal".
Everyone is worthy of mention and all praise, but Kieran has been especially good this season.
Also, a long time ago, my brain finally realized that Matthew McFadyen played Mr. Darcy in that very adaptation of Joe Wright's Pride and Prejudice. And now, after 4 seasons of Tom, I look at Matthew with completely different eyes.
I don't understand at all where the whole caste got so much energy and how they all are! they play at this level, but without them — I do not exclude that the series would be perceived completely differently.
It's very cool, thanks to everyone, Emmy to everyone.
The fate of the whole company was decided at the behest of Shiv's left heel. And yes, I perfectly understand her motivation: I don't want to be in second or third place after my brothers again. Eating other people's crumbs off the table again... Let Royco not go to any of the true heirs. But what an infantile position this is!
You've been running errands for Lucas for free for half a season. I didn't bargain for anything. Now you give your casting vote and again for nothing. To what? Become a trophy wife? For some it would be a decent outcome, but definitely not for Shiv. He will now cast envious glances in Tom's direction for the rest of his life.
Well, it serves her right.
I was rooting for Kendall with all my heart, even though I knew he would never win. And the moment when all the masks of pretended virtue were thrown off...The way he strangled Rum in his arms, he pretended to be a kind dad-Logan. His absolutely hilarious attempts to prove that he didn't kill anyone. What an unpleasant person he is, but still my favorite of the Royals))
At the same time, I'm sorry for Roman, and I'm happy for him. I think, despite all the childhood injuries, it will be easier for him than Ken and he will be able to start living in his own pleasure. Without endless corporate intrigues, manipulations and palace coups. It's a pity he won't find a second Jerry for himself.
Unexpectedly cute (???) a moment with Tom and Greg. I will never believe that Tom left Greg purely for pragmatic purposes. Greg does as much harm as good (this is at best). It seems that the disgusting brothers will not disappear anywhere, as well as their sick, unequal "friendship".
P.S. Emmy Kalkin. No options.
In conclusion, I want to say, thank you Heirs👏👏 emotional roller coaster, from which it will be difficult to get off)
a terrible scene with Ken and Roman embracing, when he forcibly hurt him, pressing on his seam. and Ken is very scary this season, his heart ached for him the whole series, and what he became was the worst result (yes, even considering the second possible result). I didn't feel anything for Tom and didn't worry about him at all, he doesn't have his own opinion, and by the end he didn't appear, he is still being used, only on a different scale and other people.
and the ending seems to be what it should be. there could be no happy ending here
when she spat into the bowl, and he swallowed her spit - it became clear that the same would happen at the vote
sickening violence and humiliation - as the basis of family relations
Shiv's act has not yet digested, such a sudden decision, as if it was caused by pregnant hormones. But apparently those who say they did it out of spite are right. She was thrown, they didn't put her in anything, and here he is a chance to "show everyone".
I also agree that for all three of them it really is not a loss, but a liberation.
our namber van boy Foreva.
Shiv, Oh Shiv-Shiv. how it all turned out-at first everyone thought Tom was henpecked, but he just sat everyone out and now clearly the main one in their relationship. Shiv has the saddest ending, but she drove herself there
all Bravo and goodbye
If Shiv had been worried about that accident, she would have turned away from Ken as soon as he confessed. But for her and Roman, it's "an incident without real participants," as it is for Logan.
And special thanks for this great episode of the great show.
On the other hand, she has become much richer and it is unlikely that Tom under Matson in his CEO position will be able to overtake her, more likely they had a prenuptial agreement and it is unlikely that everything is on an equal footing under the contract. So from a position of wealth, she has more power, billions.
To be honest, when I started watching this series, I was "sick" and worried about Kendal. But when in the 1st he hurt Roman when he hugged him, in the 2nd he pretended to be a fool and "forgot" about killing for the sake of Shiv's voice, it became clear that he could not be in charge.
I really liked the final, everyone got what they deserved.
The actors, the creators deserve all the awards, and I want to say separately for the amazing soundtrack.
Naturally I will reconsider!
The delight of the series. Every minute is a masterpiece.
Depth, strength of types, sound, visual - it was godlike.
All the characters are perfectly spelled out, but Romulus is simply beyond praise.
this is so right and logical, I hope and believe so much that they will all go to three different psychotherapists, reconcile with their mother, and break the cycle of abuse. each of them should not repeat the fate of their parents. Shiv and Kendall will definitely be normal parents, even if they are single, Roman will find something to his liking and create a normal family, and this family curse created by Logan's uncle will be dispelled.
the most important thing: the only person from the family in the company is the slippery opportunist Greg, who grew up in poverty, like Logan himself. so right, so worthy. all awards to everyone, but first to Kieran, of course.
100/10
У его мамы есть деньги, как и у деда, просто она уже во взрослом возрасте Грега не хотела ему их давать.
Unless you mean that the future of the country under Kendal would be worse, I don't know about that. Emotionally unstable in places, but more or less capable, there is a look and a strategy, although he has, buying gojo was also his idea...
It also seems to me that if Tom hadn't told Shiv that he would be CEO, she would definitely have voted, because someone from the family is better than some random, Lawrence. But since the husband, you can still.
The novel with glimpses of awareness of its insignificance pleased the whole series. Going out into the crowd on the street is something we all go through, some earlier, some later. He had nowhere to go later, but the years are still ahead, maybe he will be happier. But CEO has never been a job for him either.
Shiv was bati's favorite, because she was the one who knew how to work, she was the heiress in his head, for me. Right up to the moment he told her about it. After that, she showed exactly the same qualities as her brothers. Fortunately, she understood this, as it seems to me at the moment when she agreed that Ken is a better contender than she is. It made her feel bad at that moment, they showed it well.
Well, Tom has been plowing from dawn to dawn since the first episode, he loves good things, he wants to advance his career, albeit selfishly, but he was ready to sit down. He was exposed as a weak-willed coward, but this is courage in the highest form. That's why he left Greg, two boots - a pair.
The series has 10 points, season 4 separately 11. Thank you for not dragging it out, thank you for giving at least through the keyhole to look at what money and power are turning whole families into, and thank you for a bunch of tips on how not to raise your children.
Despite the fact that his position in the company has changed as a character, it seems to me that he is not much different from the one who was at the beginning of the season (well, yes, more confidence, tk got a position and less jokes like a prison consultant, but there is no time for jokes already).
But who has completely evolved in the opposite direction and turned into a semblance of a man is Gregg. How cute he was in the beginning, and what an absolute worm he is now. And after all, he crawled to the goal x) Remember, Tom offered to sell his soul to him? So the deal took place, confirmed by a sticker on his forehead.
She didn't get any happy ending for herself in the end. She didn't want a child, she didn't want Tom, it turns out that she didn't want power either? Or did she not want Ken to be in power, but not out of rationalism, but out of envy? Somehow it sucks that she was turned from a strong and, by the way, not working for her father heroine from the beginning of the series into this, with a palm in Tom's imperious hand in the end.
I struggle with the unpleasant feeling that it was the heroine, a woman, of whom there are not so many in the plot, who was responsible for the collapse of the Swarms. I don't want to see sexism in this masterpiece series, but something like that doesn't leave... Thoughts like "here, she's a girl, she's an inconsistent fool, so get this trick from her" :/
However, in the finale, in the park, he looked like he had aged 15 years in an hour, and it was difficult not to sympathize with him (thanks to acting, mainly).
But the best of all, of course, is the line of Tom, who, with quiet steps, abandoning himself, reached the top, becoming an empty and important suit. Armstrong very beautifully pushed Greg towards him in order to show how different the path of an opportunist can be: Tom, although he licked whom he could, knew how to choose a chair and was able to prove that he was sitting on this chair for a reason, when Greg tried in vain to sit on two without showing, and why was he even on these The chairs should have been planted. Very cool.
In general, an amazing collection of interesting characters, empathy and disgust for which always coexist side by side. Armstrong vividly revealed this whole world of the 1%, which many dream of, and even more vividly showed that people should not go there, because you will remain there broken, beaten and sad, even if you find yourself at the very top. It's an amazing show, it's a pity that you're over, but it's good that you're over now.
Of course, Tom doesn't really care what he got himself into, but maybe his enthusiasm will be enough to take it all out. Greg is such a Greg, I was hoping his storyline would be more interesting.
In general, all siblings got what they deserved, I don't feel sorry for anyone. But we could have done it in one season, yes.
The finale:
Wow.
So much for nostalgia for Logan, albeit virtual.
Here is each character for you, his throwing:
* A rum that hates itself, but really wants to mean something and gets over the fact that it never earned the full respect of its father before his death.
Ken, who knows nothing but business, although even this is not perfect for him. A loser who wants to take his piece of someone else's cake.
* And Shiv, who just doesn't want to be abandoned.
Everyone's fervor was reduced, everyone was put in their place in the plot.
I've had a comment somewhere from the first episodes about Tom, that I like him the most in this snake den (both the character and the actor himself). I sincerely believed that Tom would never make mistakes in his bets. It was a well-deserved crown, I think. No one treated the company with such awe, excitement and soul as Tom. He's the one who can.
And yes, I will support the thoughts above: the castling of Siobhan vs Tom turned out ironically cool! Tom used to be with Shiv because he was in love + for the sake of influence, and now she is with Tom for this, + there was an attachment because of the child.
Thank you for selling such a company, it has already outlived its time and this is a step forward, no matter what the consequences may be.
PS it's good that Greg was "shaved" after all, because he's too nasty a worm. This is not Tom's level, although they tried to equalize them. Just a slug.
TV series:
It's rare when a series is delicious from start to finish.
The heirs have entered my top list.
They did not sink in the plot, although there were risks, but they deftly bypassed it.
All the depth of the scenes, music, costumes and scenery. Everything is at the right time, everything is harmonious.
I warmly recommend it to everyone to watch.
Tom, congratulations. Deservedly so.
Many people slammed Ken for trying to lie about the murder. I'll just remind you that when he confessed to them, both of them said with one voice that he was not to blame and did not kill anyone at all! However, look, now that you need an argument in a dispute - Ken is a murderer! They also started to involve children, isn't it disgusting?
Up there, a man wrote that Shiv had ruined all possible career paths. why? why? for what? you had to stay in politics like in the first season, where you already had weight, where you did cool things. it was very sad to watch her try to earn at least something all these seasons, but in fact she always remains in someone's shadow: her father, brothers, Tom. I am very offended, because you could get out of this vicious circle simply by agreeing to a deal, but no. I can't even imagine motivation other than selfishness, well, there's nothing else here, I wanted to prove for the last time that she still has weight. I really love this character, but everyone treated her just dirty, she didn't deserve it.
The dynamic between Tom and Shiv in the season is just amazing, sometimes to the point of tears. especially the scene on the balcony or the consolation in the office, beautifully done.
The three characters I've hated all season are Greg, Tom, and Matson. They were just scum, my teeth started to grind when they said something. Especially Greg, the little nit, I hope he gets pulverized.
I'm sorry for Kendal, I'm sorry for Roman, I hope everything will be fine with them (although probably not).
I hoped that Jerry would approach him in the scene where Roman is sitting in a bar, but again, this is not going to happen. although it would be very powerful.
The scene in the kitchen is not just beautiful, it really inspires hope that everything will be fine. returning back, I would have finished watching it here.
The last season brought the final touches to the picture and it turned out to be a masterpiece! That's great!
But the series should be shot about the security officers, there are the roots of the current evil. This is necessary, the organization that drowned the country in blood, and was originally about lawlessness, did not suffer any punishment (unlike the SS or genocidaires in Rwanda), grew like a cancer, came to power as a result (Andropov), then rolled back (Gorbachev and the gkchp), but eventually seized everything (2/3 of the highest state posts were already occupied by former KGB officials by 2004) and naturally drowned the country in fear and blood again. The price of impunity and the unlearned lessons of history.
I didn't wish Tom and Greg well for a minute, it's a pity that such people are in such places. But don't fools often sit in chairs in real life?
There was no surprise, no drama for me in the finale. Everything is quite predictable and therefore it's a bit of a pity, although undoubtedly the ending is beautiful.
The series is great. But, imho, the fourth season is the weakest
The unloved children of a rich father and a strange mother, from whom only success in everything is expected from childhood. And these kids grow up with a psycho.a lifelong injury. I wonder who Kendall, Shiv and Roman would have become without Logan's constant pressure.
Many people wrote here that Kendall could not be CEO, they say there are too many fakups. But I remember him as a very smart, calculating and astute person, capable of taking on huge responsibility, but no one gave him the opportunity to unleash his potential—betrayal after betrayal: father, brother, best friend and sister, all put a spoke in the wheels. Since the first episode, I dreamed that he would punch someone in the face, so Roman absolutely deserved to get in the face. Well, for me, Shiv is generally the main antagonist of the series after Logan's death.
In general, it's amazing that absolutely all the characters are complete scum, but you still love them. The cast is just incredible. I went to review the entire filmography of Jeremy Strong.
PS. Go Mr Darcy😁
Well, Tom won again and took Greg's dysgasting - that's a sweet moment, he couldn't leave his protege, literally looks in the mirror.
Connor - well, he's fine) But the trinity, perhaps, lost everything here. Roman is drowning in self-flagellation, Kendall is a loser again, Shiv got nothing and also lost the last remnants of imaginary power. Logan's words above were correctly noted - they are just not serious people.
Logan's moment at ATN was powerful.
Kieran Culkin is probably the unconditional best male role, how unlucky is Saul to get under the rink of Heirs.
Shiv, what a fool you are, why did you do that? Sooooo sorry.
Tom is truly 100% disgusting, the actor playing him is incomparable!
Well, everyone played great, bravo!
The last scene: Tom finds out about it from the news on "CBS".
The last frame: his expression.
Titles:
Succession.
The End.
Honestly, deep down I was very worried about the children. I hated them, I felt sorry for them, I hated them again. And I still have a slight sadness that Shiv, Roman and Kendall did not play as a single family, together, against everyone. But, there is such a lump of resentment, reflection and lies (and the thirst for power did not let go of someone until the end) that it is objectively illusory. It's still not a fairy tale.
I liked the explanation of Shiv's act in the comments, how to "break the vicious circle and set the brothers free." It's a little naive and romantic, but I can only partially explain to myself what she did. After all, she was promised power a hell of a lot (father, brothers, Viking), used her skills and connections, and in the end everyone ALWAYS threw her, choosing a more convenient candidate or simply did not choose her. Perhaps she decided to stop this series of fuck-ups, so that she would not be dumped again. But most likely everything is more complicated there)
I am glad that the ending is not banal, that there is no imposed moralizing in it. That Greg cheburek was left to rot in this swamp. And everything is so painful and beautiful, but not hopeless for Roma and Ken.
My respects to the creators and absolutely all the actors)
Because he made a masochist out of his son with his beatings. Perhaps even a couple with his wife, who is the mother of the children.
Roman and Jerry are not mimicking anything, everything is sad and vomit that happened between them. It's good that Jerry stopped it.
Can you provide any verified studies on a representative sample in this regard? Or is this your favorite psychology-astrologer-numerologist-tarologin said on Instagram?
The series seems to be all about the fact that the heirs and the viewer want something and they are regularly sent to fuck, because everything is not the way they want. They are broken people who cannot be repaired either at the beginning or at the end. It's a fucking swing from "we are so fucking back" to "we are fucking nothing".
Did Shiv even remember about the baby? Why did Ken lie to them about him? They're just forever broken people. Thanks to Dad.
Unfortunately, for Ken, I see only one development of events - suicide. Either directly (at first I was sure that he would take the elevator to the roof, and then I remembered that dad had put special barriers there for him preemptively), or through drugs. Romych has a chance for a bright future if he takes up therapy. Shiv will rot in Tom's shadow for the rest of her life, and it serves her right, karma is a bitch. And I still believe that my favorite, Greg Ex Machina, will eventually outplay and destroy everyone (including Greenpeace)))
A great show, Kieran Culkin made it for me personally, he had the best vanliners) Romchik one love 💜 His thorn with Jerry is forever in my heart😂
Well, Logan Roy has now taken his rightful place in the pantheon of terrible parents hand in hand with Livia Soprano) I'm sure they would have something to discuss :)
I smiled from the last scene with Tom and Greg))How sweet of Tom to take care of him after all 😂
Scenes:
1. Shiv's spit in the Kendadalla cocktail, well, you get it.
2. A humorous discussion of Kendall's murder already looks less humorous in the end, they could have shown in the end how the lot is drawn who will stick a knife in the back, the hitch of the Novel on the vote as an option.
In general, I hope that the creators will take it off (when it is possible) some kind of epilogue to show how the fate of the characters turned out after a while (it's good if instead of the episode with Ken they don't just show a tombstone), because there is more to tell. #fourseasonsandamovie
Tom is handsome! I learned the best thing that the Roy family can do - to conduct intrigues behind the backs of loved ones. He saw himself in Greg, which is probably why he forgave him for constantly rushing between different opposing groups for the sake of a warm place.
In general, there are a lot of lines in the series that were started, but did not receive any further development:
Marsha: what kind of secret life did she have before her wedding to Logan, was she "included" in the family trust (there were a lot of gossips in the first season on this issue, but they did not come to a conclusion), what about her son, who became the head of one of the divisions?
: What's next with the deal? The whole series was played over the phone in the game who will name the highest price. The children won. And? The piers do not require the fulfillment of agreements?
Given the current trends, I would not be surprised at the return of the series in 5-7 years.
Except that at least a minute-long scene of an Affair with Jerry was not enough, because in this regard I was hoping for a funeral, but there was nothing but one half-frame. Yes, the line is essentially closed, but there is still some kind of incompleteness.
The series is over, the entire team of creators and the cast just have my respect.
In the award season, I really want an award for Kieran, especially since Sarah, Jeremy, Matthew and Brian Cox already have :)
Almost the entire series, sympathy shifted from sibling to sibling, despite the fact that it was often difficult for all of them to sympathize: in the first half of the series it was Kendall, sometimes Shiv and even Connor, but in the second half and towards the end I was most worried about Roman. I think he will lead his usual rich life, make movies and invest in startups like Hundreds, there is unlikely to be any real evil from him, especially now, without the burden of family heritage on his shoulders and a toxic father with his orders.
Does Shiv have every opportunity to return to politics, which she really liked, so that at the next election a fan of fascism will not be elected for a second term?
Kendall.. Well, let's hope he doesn't rush into the pool immediately after the finale with his head in any sense, rethink what happened a little, remember about the children, won't sue Rava? It would be nice.
I really liked the ending!
Okay, everything is clear with honest survivalist Tom, and chaotic Shiv was brought all seasons to the role of a housewife, like "know your place, woman", but the catharsis of the Novel still looks deliberate, too emotional for his level of pragmatism, and too much with the image of "pants on straps"; by the finale he had already dropped the mask of a buffoon I would like to have more scenes with him in the present. Kendall does not develop at all against the general background and stands still - okay, as an option, but not for a person who has been prophesied a great future since the age of seven. I expected that Greg would be better revealed as a kind of evil mastermind and in the end he would stop pretending to be a fool - well, or at least I would like to know more about this character and his goals. Connor and Willa have a nice union in principle and every chance of family success, they know how to negotiate with each other.
It seems that this series teaches that the most vile and dodgy people end up at the top of the food chain. Tom and Greg are an example of absolutely unscrupulous, unprincipled people who will go over their heads for personal gain. Tom, however, openly admits this, which causes at least some sympathy. But Shiv is probably the most unpleasant character to me - the whole series did nothing but deceive her family and husband with a noble face, in order to eventually deceive herself and remain without an independent career in her husband's shadow. I'm sure she voted this way not to become the CEO's wife and stay in business at the company, but to prevent her brother from becoming CEO. It turned out to be more painful for her than swallowing all of Tom's betrayals. "Don't let anyone get you."
I sympathized with Kendall the whole series, but it seems that Roman has the best chance to heal and move on. To admit that "we are bullshit" is the first step towards this.
Everything turned out exactly as it should have. All children are traumatized to varying degrees by their manipulative father, a tough, thick-skinned businessman, for whom everything around is a means to achieve the current goal.
Kendal is an infantile, dependent and prone to mood swings, with a complex of "main heir". As the story and character developed, it only became clearer that he was not capable of being the leader of the empire. His sister essentially prevented him from killing the empire, partly out of common sense, partly out of jealousy.
Shiv, it would seem, the most intelligent and progressive of them, is mortally offended deep down that her father saw her insufficiently intelligent brothers as heirs more, which is why he treats them jealously, and himself too presumptuously, and as a result of intrigues outsmarted herself, left with nothing.
Connor is a child who doesn't exist. Also infantile, like Ken, but also branded by his mother's past, and obviously uninteresting to his father as an heir. Despite all his oddities, perhaps it is easier for him than anyone else - he accepted, due to his infantile nature, the fact that as a child it means much less to his father than the trinity and decided to live the path of least resistance. They all ended up with exactly what they were capable of.
In addition to what has already been written, I want to add:
1. It's good that Greg wasn't made CEO, it would be a completely American dream. I was surprised that Tom left it. I would take Greg back to where he started, to the amusement park.
2. I was really looking forward to showing and revealing everyone's childhood at least in the last season. I just didn't have enough, especially the Novel.
3. I believed in Kendall to the last that he would finally break through this ceiling and win. But again, no. I hope he will have his own business and live in peace.
4. Siobhan is, of course, fabulous... In season 1, I liked it the most, but by the end I was completely stupid. Her closest people have thrown her so many times, but of course we will believe Matsson. In Norway, it was immediately clear what he and his friends were like. I don't believe in Shiv as a politician, it seems to me that she was kept not least for the sake of communication with Logan and ATN.
5. Frank and Carl voted for the deal, even though they knew they were on the firing list. And eventually they will be fired. Why, and most importantly why, as they say.
6. Jerry is the best - it's just a base.
Kendall is not a model either, but when he shouts that there is no logic in this, he is right.
HBO knows how to make series that you can't get away from, "Heirs " is just one of those. The picture, the dialogues, the acting, the relationship between the characters - I just fell in love. Bravo 👏🏻