A very intense series. And it is very interesting that at the time of the power outage, the screens showed a green world outside. It was as if the computer responsible for the video processing of the real picture had turned off
@reddit: the fact that the light outside went out, although it's day outside, didn't surprise anyone either. Changing the picture is already surprise number two after this. There's another hellscape with red lava flashed.
@Dark_Alice: Wait, I was responding specifically to "the light went out." People know that the image behind the "window" is a video from the camera. So everything is logical here so far. Another moment is that a beautiful color image flashed for just a second, and yes, people noticed it 100%.
@Dark_Alice: I caught a shot of the "hellscape" - in fact, it was just interference due to the rapid frame change. in about the same way, the picture can shake during the stream at low bitrate
@Scheusalwirt: No, there are just bodies. Only they did not die from exposure to the surface, but from the poison in their spacesuits. The sheriff guessed at the last moment and took off his helmet, but it was too late.
@Tartugec: ahahaha how funny) It's a pity, but your filthy attempt to spoil the viewing experience failed on me. The books have been read for a long time 🤷🏼♀️ So spoilers don't scare me. It's just amazing that someone would deliberately mess up, that's all.
@Tartugec: just a delightful flow of text) very vividly demonstrates your inability to grasp the essence of what you read) but I'll try again. I didn't complain about you. I noted that you are a small, flawed scoundrel, that's all. And please note that your questions to me, in fact, very accurately reflect exactly your reasons for leaving spoiler comments in "this godforsaken place." Funny enough, don't you think?) I will not wish you all the best. Otherwise, you might decide that it's nice to have a dialogue with you.
@rueful_dream: And ridiculous. Is it like you haven't thought through the conditions under which maintenance of the generator will be required? Like, all these 160 years or how long does the generator have to work without interruption?
@furSy: generators with an operating life of 150+ years do not do that, yes. But in general, the repair is extremely primitive and provided - to start a backup generator, remove the outer casing, and replace spare parts. The question is, where did these very spare parts go, they should not rule the plate with hammers and a grinder in a good way.
@furSy: they caught up with suspense in the series, everything in the book was not so critical. I mean, there was a breakdown, and it could lead to the destruction of the generator - in a week, in a year, in a dozen years - but all the shelter was not de-energized, they cut off the energy from IT, which their boss bombed. And the power supply has been hanging on additional capacities all this time.
@furSy: it is quite possible that before the so-called riot there were instructions with some procedures, but now they are lost. The workers don't even know where the steam is coming from. The spare parts probably just ran out after so many years
@furSy: I agree. If we built a generator with a large resource for 100+ years, then we should have thought about the possibility of stopping for maintenance with steam removal directly past the generator. And in a good way, there should be at least 1 backup generator.
@furSy: I graduated from the aviation institute and all this nonsense about fixing a turbine of this size caused me a fierce facepalm. They just took the blades and pulled them out, repaired them with a hammer for 5 minutes and let's keep working. 😄 In 140 years of continuous operation, such crap would have to be serviced more than a dozen times. Steam supply without bypass valve? Yeah, well, well. Steam is coming from somewhere, no one knows where, and after 140 years, no one has thought about the need to suspend its supply at some point..? Fuck, they're all brilliant engineers and mechanics there.
Maybe I'm wrong, but shouldn't she have been scalded by steam when she directed a jet of water at the red-hot metal, standing so close to it?🤔 If not specific burns, then at least the spots should have remained. Although it seems to me that even just going down into such a limited space with hot metal, she would not be able to stay and breathe there, the temperature there should probably have been off the scale just.
@alesenok: There's a lot of nonsense here. Take the same idea of an eternal generator that should not break down and be repaired. And about the only valve for steam removal. In short, nonsense. Probably, the book contains the same nonsense about technology and logic
@alesenok: in theory, she would have been nailed by a hose, which was abruptly straightened up when the water was supplied and threw her a couple of times on the red-hot walls. Well, or the manhole cover would have cracked from the temperature difference.
@alesenok: She should have been instantly boiled alive, the most delusional moment in the series so far. More precisely, dade is not cooked, but "steamed" like manta rays, only much faster.
@alesenok: Yes!! I also looked and did not understand where the steam was, why the valve did not crack from the temperature drop, why the water that pushed off from the valve was not a steep boiling water in which the heroine should cook... In short, it's hard to watch TV shows and movies when you have a technical education, and most importantly, why didn't the great creators, or someone there, provide 2 or even 3 full-fledged generators that can be switched if necessary
It was especially epic that they didn't have any kind of well-thought-out plan, 3 people were running around, and the boss was just yelling at everyone "faster, faster" xDD
@LuckyThirteen: I've only read the original a little bit, I wanted to find out what's on the way out. They wrote in the comments earlier that they did not build an intrigue on this and simply explained how things are. Therefore, I ran ahead. But as far as I understood from this descent of the mayor, which was described in the book and what happened during it, that the book is more based on "internal" showdowns in the shelter. In the film adaptation, attention was shifted from this to external problems, what is there outside, to technical problems in the shelter itself that could prompt what is outside, etc. Therefore, there is no such scene with the descent and visiting the IT department is COMPLETELY different here. As well as a whole bunch of crap that was added to the series during these 3 episodes already. Half of them don't seem to be in the book at all. But they were added for communication. But interestingly, since the book is more politicized, I didn't really like it, so I'm not in a hurry to even finish it. The series is exciting and the idea looks great and the problems that are being sanctified so far. In my personal opinion, I don't even want to say that the book is better because it's not. Before the release of the film adaptation, no one even offered to read it to me, and even if they had offered, I would have rather quit. And the series holds and because of it, I may finish reading, just to know what was in the original source.
@LuckyThirteen: to be honest, most of the above written under the definition of trash does not pull and is explained by the need to explain the general concept to the viewer who has not read the book and at the same time keep his attention) Trash is if Shirley's character was cut out Or if Bernard turned out to be a two-meter tall jock ala Skala And so I would attribute the last two points to small claims, and even those can be explained somehow
@Saloed: That's not even the point. Usually, when there is some kind of printed source for the film adaptation, you have to get rid of half of the material written and crumple the rest, and those who were familiar with it have indignation from this. Immediately, in my humble opinion, someone who has only read the print edition a little bit is another matter altogether. They had the material, well, let's say it was mediocre, there were no riddles, there was no intrigue, there was no action. And then, surprisingly, the screenwriters did a good job, who were told that this was the material from which they needed to build and they decided to show imagination, and after that the director also tried. The dialogues are only important for the plot, the scenes have been almost completely redone, characters have been added, new scenes have been added and even intrigue and action scenes are catchy. And it even did good. In this particular series, the scriptwriting is something good. Although this is usually not the case at all. But the main thread of the narrative from where and where everything goes has been preserved.
@aziza_funky: well, I don't care, I swallowed the first book after two episodes of the series in two days. A mess with the repair - well, someone who studied physics at school a little bit laughed :))
I'm watching Success at the same time, and only now it dawned on me that Martha, an elderly female mechanic, to whom Jules came all the time, is the same actress as the mother of three Swarms))) The characters are so diametrically opposed, and the makeup, of course, makes it difficult to identify. If only Roy and Martha were mothers...
@Willful: no, it was she, the female mechanic, who played Eve starting from the second or third season, I don't remember exactly, she also killed Eve's husband.
@AlexeymAlysh: wow, the mayor really didn't play in Eve (and I was absolutely sure), the mayor played a similar role in Utopia - that's why I got confused. But the super agent from Eve (the boss?) She does not play in the Bunker, there is no such role in her filmography
@Willful: not the boss, but how to say, well, probably the curator.Have you watched all the seasons of Killing Eve?Have you watched it for a long time?if not for a long time, then you should remember her.
@AlexeymAlysh: I've been watching it for a long time (I even put the mayor there:)), but I just watched the actress from Eva (Fiona Shaw - you mean her?) - she doesn't have a role in the Bunker. The female mechanic is played by Harriet Walter, it seems.
@Willful: it's Harriet Walter that I mean, go to her profile on this site and in her filmography there is a role in Killing Eve. not the main one, of course, but also not to say that it's a minor one, her role greatly influenced the plot there, but again, I repeat, she appeared in the second season.it's strange that you can't remember her)
@AlexeymAlysh: I understand now, we are talking about different roles. You mean Vilanel's mentor, and I was talking about the head of intelligence (about whom I was sure that the mayor was playing her). I figured it out:)
@Scheusalwirt: She's also the mom of Jodie Comer's character from the movie The Last Duel. She plays some pretty tough or just plain cold mothers. Therefore, her role here was pleasantly surprised, the actress is wonderful.
The series is, of course, very stressful, but my, she had to cook inside, well, it's unrealistic. As a result, the residents sat without lights with lanterns for an hour, and there was talk, as if the apocalypse had come
The plot is extremely dense, the universe is well displayed, the actors, the game is 5+. I haven't read the book. The series draws in itself. I want to watch everything at once, the cinema has its own mood, and most importantly, to keep the bar taken.
Just one question so far: why don't all the cleaners agree with their friends in the bunker about the sign? That is, you go out like this and agree with Petya from the next floor that if you showed a fig with your fingers, then the picture in the lenses is red, and in fact it's cool on the street? But no, we go out and just wipe. Although, there is always a chance that the output will be redacted, that is, there is no chance to make a sign, but just the same picture. This is very likely judging by the fact that they start to stumble and fall +/- in the same place. It's difficult, there are questions, but it's interesting
@astrekate: in the comments to the previous series, they wrote as a theory that they fell because poison was initially pumped into the breathing apparatus
But this does not negate the fact that it was possible to immediately show two fingers or any other sign at the exit, and then pump up the poison, there is quite enough time
To give some kind of sign to your loved ones who are inside that the picture is being redacted or not; and not just go out, wipe the glass and go ahead like all the previous cleaners
@astrekate: about the picture, everything was shown very logically when the policeman came out, he also said with a naive tone: "they should see it!!!" and he began to wipe, like if he wipes, everyone will see the beauty! they come out - they are stunned by what they see, and do not think soberly. they are all naive guys there, not confused by complex strategies. it looks like they don't have books there, etc. that will help to master critical thinking, perhaps this is an experiment: what would like to identify processes for the growth of smart t.p.
@nikolayk: Well, in the third series there was a moment that when the power went out, the picture stopped being replaced and for a fraction of a second a greenie is visible. At the same time, in the second series, the sheriff does the same thing on video as before the substitution of the picture. Hence, the question also arose: if not even a sign, then why can't you take a pen and paper with you, write on it and show it to the camera?
It seems to me that they think extremely soberly, cleaners do not look like people who saw greenery and beautiful sky for the first time + like people who realized that they have been deceived all their lives No surprise, no shock, no anger, nothing) wiped - went to suffocate on the steps
@LuckyThirteen: well, yes, this is on the surface, a banal utopia and tyranny of power in which anyone who went against society with non-standard opinions is expelled, here they are so perversely killed. fighters against the system will arise one way or another, and therefore the authorities understand perfectly well what to do and how to do it, but again, sooner or later, according to such scenarios, there will be some kind of movement like an uprising.
@astrekate: Yes, no one seems to wipe anything there. All graphics and fake. And facial expressions through the helmet, most likely, too. Otherwise, it would be possible to show something with gestures, fingers or facial expressions, etc. But in this case, I do not understand one thing: why is there a camera at all? So that you can get burned like this when you disconnect the main power supply?
It doesn't even occur to them that a picture can be edited on the fly. The sheriff's wife, on the other hand, agreed with him about the sign, having learned the truth from a secure hard drive.
So far, I am much more confused by the lack of at least wired telephony in the presence of computers and servers
Uhh and suspense. It's strange that they don't have any backup batteries. Well, they keep the intrigue well. I hope everything will not result in an exodus from the opera "everything was a dog's dream"
@LuckyThirteen: There is no dog dream in Losta, and everything is explained as part of the Vibe series. and the details can be viewed on YouTube - @LOSTEXPLAINED108
By the way, I also noticed, and thought stop, because in order for the generator to work, this steam should go through these blades, spinning the generator, but they supplied steam somewhere, but not on the blades, considering that when they removed the casing, there was steam and pressure there) and there is also a question where does this steam disappear after passing through the generator?)
@Tiinsa: I understood that the curved blade led to an imbalance of the entire unit, that is, all fasteners were loose. Jules pulled them up and that was enough for a while.
And another question, they just stopped the generator and let's touch the blades and the rest with our hands, as if nothing is hot there. It seems like a couple of minutes ago there was a hot steam there, so that such an amount of metal does not need to cool down for a couple of minutes. Like you open the hood of the car after the engine stops and you touch everything there ahaha
@hotdog666: That is, for you, the whole renovation scene looked plausible, even enviable, as it significantly spoiled the impression for me. But just on the spur of the moment - heating the valve to redness at a pressure of 200 bar takes from several hours, reducing the pressure in the system, however much it may be, by cooling only the valve will not work, the temperature when heated to red is about 700 ° C and water is supplied there... I don't think it's necessary to explain what exactly was not plausible. I can continue on the technical details, but is it necessary ... I can accept that they got just such a design and device of the generator, then it's on the conscience of the designers, not their fault. But so that the key survival and breathing object has only 1 mechanic with no trainee...
@br1ella: They were just measuring the temperature with a pressure gauge. 😉 Their temperature was the main danger, it was just necessary to cool the valve . And that it will jam from overheating is nonsense.
Not to mention the organization of work. There is no work plan, no training, no backup and insurance personnel, no plan to eliminate obvious emergencies. They didn't even take care of the connection, they just yelled a lot during noisy work. There's only Armageddon at stake, why bother so much.
@br1ella: another second of stuffiness: the critical curvature on the turbine blades is measured in micrometers. You can't fix it with a hammer and a grinder. and they also hit her from a height.
Fixing the generator in the context of reality looks somewhat fantastic. There are no spare blades, no backup steam removal system, and backup generators are generally not clear why they are needed with such low power. As usual, the scriptwriters decided that the drama of the moment was behind the eyes of most viewers and did not care about logic. This is now in the order of things, alas.. And so it is clearly visible that the series and the book differ greatly even in small things. Filmed, one might say, based on motives. Some characters have been added, others have been removed, some characters have completely changed their character and motivation. I don't know how good it will be in the future, but so far it's average
@Ytzin: The cancer that kills movies is down-screenwriters who have probably never gone to a very ordinary sauna in their lives and can't even imagine what happens there when they pour water on the hot surface. Oh, and then there are those who hate this cretinism and ask for supplements.
That's why when I try to fix something that I don't understand how it works, I always have a bunch of extra parts and a broken device instead of a happy ending?
I like the general atmosphere, the riddles, and of course Rebecca Ferguson. But there are too many questions about the absurdity of the script. Why didn't Jules tell the mayor right away that the generator was on the verge of failure Why is a vital generator serviced by only one good specialist who can get sick, die, etc. Why only one generator when there should be several, as the equipment inevitably breaks down Why is an inexperienced intern helping Jules fix the generator on which the life of the entire community depends Why didn't Jules tell them to cool the valve in advance to give them more time to fix it, and why did she go to cool it herself? Anyone could have done it there Well, in general, all the nonsense about fixing and installing the generator is some kind of fantasy, we have already written about this above
@id70201890: Because Jules, like any good specialist, is engaged in sabotage of her own work in order to stay in a warm place... so she didn't say until she changed her place to another one.
There should not be ONE generator that should provide vital activity at all...there should be 5 of them to diversify the risks of the power system. He is there alone, only because he is needed for the PLOT of THIS PARTICULAR SERIES ... the same answer is about the generator service.
As for the cooling of the generator, it's generally wild...she could have been boiled alive there with this method.
Fantasy is fierce, but this particular series is the wildest...it is especially clearly visible how Jules, shouting at her assistant, began to GRIND the BLADE....and don't cut it the fuck off. You can reconsider the moment at the beginning of their "repair"
@iken: moreover, they still do not know where this steam goes after the generator. But why should they know this if the bunker has its own unique laws of physics)))))
They don't know what's outside, they don't know what's under them, they don't know what kind of video camera it is, they don't know where the spare parts are, they don't know how much the valve will hold, they don't know where the steam goes after passing through the generator, and do you think they'll know where they got the steam in endless quantities?)
@Jinx: I was even surprised that he wasn't dead. According to the laws of the genre, someone's sudden and tragic death was just asking for "for the sake of all mankind."
The generator repair scene is just incredibly delusional. And now I would like to pour water on the red-hot valve.🤦♀️ How Jules didn't cook there, I don't understand.
Ooooh! I didn't breathe for half an episode. Of course, you have to turn a blind eye to the fact that she would have been burned by steam when she poured cold water on hot metal, and I wonder on what principle their alarm clock and computers are not relics, but the same other things (wristwatches, camera, etc.) are relics. It's fantastic. The series is in one go, and now how can we wait for the next one! It was expected with the mayor (
The main thing in the series is not to watch the generator repair scenes if you have at least a little knowledge of engineering, otherwise you can break through the time continuum on the jet thrust of a burning fart and go back to the past, at the time of the creation of this generator, and tell the GIP that you can build in a different way so that it works normally, and not this That's it.
@hotdog666: at least it's banal that it's impossible to fix a part in a minute, and the main character just had to cook inside, especially when she supplied water.
@hotdog666: a problem for the youngest: what is the melting point of cast iron? Well, let's say that there's some kind of cast iron, so as not to mess around. Let's take something average, so as not to overdo it again, let it be 1300C. It hasn't started melting yet, but it's already red hot. Well, let's take 700-800 degrees, we are kind. At the same time, you are standing a couple of meters in front of a cast-iron lid, which somehow turned red-hot in less than half an hour. For protection, you're wearing a tank top, overalls, alcohol vapors in your head, and a belief in Deus Ex Machina. And so you start pouring this red-hot piece of cast iron from a fire hose.… But here I give up, because in my understanding, the temperature in that room should be hell-like without that (we remember that there is no ventilation and the room is directly designed to direct hot steam into the turbine of the generator and it obviously shouldn't be 30C?), so for some reason the water is gaining faster. than it evaporates at such a temperature (no matter how icy it is), and the lid not only does not cool, but also gets hotter without boiling the water!
@Kentavr: Well, then a friend runs through the comments and says it's possible. It looks like they kicked him out of the physics department, and now he's grazing here.
@Willful: Uh:D Please, although I didn't write anything special like that, just the facts or something close to them. 😅 And I had to close it because of some strange and offended inadequacies, well, that's not the point)
@Kentavr: I went to read your comments and found a glitch: it won't let me go beyond the first page (not only you, I've seen it before, I just forgot). ( And as for the closed profile and the inadequacies, you're absolutely right: one of them is attacking me with disadvantages today. It's a pity that you have to hide because of such resentments.
@Willful This is not a glitch. You can view comments beyond page 1 only for money (by purchasing a pro account). For some reason, the information about this, on the comments page, was removed from the new version of the site.
@Kentavr>And I had to close it because of some strange and offended inadequacies I'm still here. I'm still reading your comments. You didn't hide from me :D
The accents, imho, are not on that they put. It is clear that entertainment and suspense are needed, but the interior kitchen there is now more important than a half-episode renovation. Nothing about the role of IT, and nothing about the role of Bernard either. Everything about the arrangement with thermoses in the book is immediately clear, it's as if they didn't show at all how and when it could have been done. Jules' "theft" is generally a key element of the plot, but perhaps it will be served later. Jules bargained for them to reduce energy consumption for repairs with good reason, and she was persuaded to take on a new job, too, not from the ceiling or from the word scrawled on the badge, she really thought she could be useful. Judging by the speed of the plot, we should expect a lot of intense scenes with a wow effect, but whether it will be a complete picture is a question.
@hotdog666: I don't know what field you know, but you obviously don't know anything about physics and mechanics. the repair scene looked something like if you need to feed a child, but it turned out that the child does not have a mouth (as in the Matrix), and then you began to hammer porridge into his ear with a hammer.
@hotdog666: It's funny, of course, how a person goes around insulting everyone in incompetence, while at best saying nothing about the notorious repair of the generator, and at worst giving out fierce game.
It's an interesting plot, but still, if this series continues to look like the dreary "Through the Snow" where everything boils down to internal squabbles and power struggles, rather than solving the mystery of what's behind the Bunker, what kind of world, and so on, then it will be sad.
- And where does the steam for the generator come from? "No one knows. And who the fixies are is a big, big secret.
Actually, it's funny how they used the cliche of the generator from Through the Snow that broke down a hundred years later. I didn't even write it down in BINGO for the first episode, but it looks like it's time.)
@hotdog666: To be fair, Hugh's first book in this series was published in 2011, and his first graphic novel, Le Transperceneige, on which Snowpiercer is based, was published in 1982.
@LuckyThirteen: you will generally remember the development of events in such series, when the hero literally reads one note for 5 episodes, and then compare it with this one. Plus, against the background of fixing the generator (which, by the way, is also a very important thing in this canon), so much happened.
I'm unfamiliar with the original, but I was sure that everything would be fine with all the characters, but they shot it so coolly and emotionally vividly that the tension was off the charts in places! And the picture on the screen raised questions, and I also think that they kill with gas in a protective suit, as a warning to others to be afraid. I feel sorry for the mayor. The third episode introduces the character and kills him, an interesting plot presentation)
I don't know if they'll have time to squeeze the first book into 10 episodes of season 1...((( So far, they are stomping at the very beginning, stretching the wake scene for the entire series, if it was very short in the book...
The series is cool. I am very glad for such a breath of fresh air. I hope the ending will be appropriate.
And for those who found it strange that people didn't react, they reacted that way and showed us those few people. But they're obviously afraid. For some reason, they are not afraid of the police, but they are afraid of the judge. Hardly a good character. The rest of the people were spinning, spinning, looking at the floor. So the main thing in the series was not the strenuous repair of the turbine, but just these 3-4 frames, where nature is alive and dead.
It remains to understand what IT people are doing in their small closed world. Are they unknowingly maintaining an illusion?
So, an interesting case has emerged here. There will be no spoilers, just a little observation about the course of the series. Some people know about it, but most probably don't. In these 3 episodes, 1/3 of the book (the first of the series) was shown. It would seem that with this approach, they should have finished it all by episode 10, according to the number of episodes announced. However, this does not seem to be the case. I got to know the original before the middle of the first book. Well, that is, I ran not far ahead, in fact, from the 1/3 that has already been shown. And now I've looked at the titles of the episodes that will be next and roughly compared them with the contents of the book and imagined what it should be about, and you know, the first book won't be finished in these 10 episodes, it seems. The title and approximate content of all subsequent 7 episodes (seven episodes!) they will only take us to the middle of the first book. Right up to where I am now and have temporarily finished the original source. One more time. In the first 3 episodes, they showed a third, in the next 7 they will reach the middle. The second season will PROBABLY be EXACTLY where the book will be finished. And I wanted to come in after reading it and make you happy that in the following (as I thought) 2 episodes will have a lot of answers and interesting plot advancement, and considering that the film adaptation is still going well, the picture will be amazing on the screen. But for some reason they decided to stretch them for 7 episodes. I don't understand why.
@Vescero: I finished reading the book the other day, and judging by the title of the last episode, the season will end right in the middle of the book. It means that they will also stretch it, adding a bit of crap, but I don't think that's a bad thing, as long as everything looks interesting enough.
It turned out to be an amazing episode, I yelled when the camera turned off and for a split second everyone saw the real view from the outside, I wonder how people will react to this, I hope they paid attention to it at all, and an elevator would not have prevented them from walking there, but somehow walking a hundred floors is like that. I will hope that everything will be fine with the mayor and she will not die, a good woman, I suspect that someone could have poisoned her, I'm not sure how exactly, but there are different ways 🤔
It's an amazing job as a director to give out such tension! Despite the fact that, well, we all understood that everything would be fine with the generator. And the scriptwriters do such a terrible job. Well, everything was sorted out before me, why this whole generator breakdown is fiction in a bad way.
We are betting on who will die in the next episode :D
I wonder if people won't be embarrassed that some nouname from the workshop has become the sheriff, who doesn't even know how to do this job? I didn't quite understand about the structure of their police department. In theory, the sheriff should have had different police guys under his command, and they should definitely be perplexed by this situation. In the same place, you should not only wear a badge and walk around the bunker with a smart look, I think, but also perform some basic duties and keep some kind of records. I hope the sheriff left her instructions on that. Otherwise, it will be as strange as possible and in fact someone will have to teach her how to do her job from 0, but 100% she will forget about it and run around the bunker "in search of the truth.".
That was the suspense with the generator, I just sat in a freeze for 20 minutes, WOW And the ending is even more gushing - I thought the mayor would be ousted after her "willfulness," but for her to be removed RIGHT AWAY is complete trash, and considering that she didn't eat anything from the judge and her henchmen, it means they have poison capsules in their bodies or they let poison gas into her bathroom... who is this fucking judge, they would have already shown The series cannon, the heat is off, my nerves are on edge, I hope this will be the best series of 2023.
And what was the sacred meaning of jumping into the closet to the valve to pour water from the bottom up on the valve, if this valve was visible right from the door? I opened the door, put some kind of water on it - here's a hose for you, stop, water it - and the problem is solved, and you don't have to suffer-you don't have to drown yourself. No, I understand that theoretically they are trying to show us that this is how she overcame her fear of water and learned to swim, but damn. Everything looks so fast and unreliable that it's already tin.
@almost_lt: well, they could have thought of something like this and filled this safety tank with cold solution beforehand, for example, to be honest, I expected something like this during the briefing.
While everyone is interested in the scene with the generator, I have another question, the former sheriff regularly met with the mechanic (he is from the upper , she is from the lower ), and her father does not see her , since he is from the middle and it's kind of kapets how far 🙈Question then how did the sheriff and the mechanic see each other 🤪
@Oksers: My father's job is on the same level, and, as he himself said, he needs a day off to relax. And the sheriff can be at different levels for his official duties (or under the pretext of such).
How basic is it, my God All series in the post-apocalyptic have become the same A hundred, Through the Snow - they've already used the same story arcs. Why does the Bunker have such a high rating???
We are building a giant bunker for people to live in for many years, where electricity will be the key resource, as it provides light, life support, and everything else.
But we will have only one generator, and we don't need any backup or backup systems. Well, for a laugh, we'll add a kind of backup, which will not be enough for anything anyway... And the only main generator on which the life of the entire budnker depends will also be made practically unusable, without any clear maintenance scheme and replacement of even the simplest parts, such as blades. Well, we won't leave any spare parts, if anything, let them straighten it with hammers.
It's completely unclear why, without a sheriff, everyone should immediately go wild and start committing crimes. There are deputy sheriffs, there are police officers, there is some kind of security service, there is a mayor and a judge, after all, people have at least some common sense - why should they immediately fly off the rails? And it's also unclear why they would suddenly start obeying a lady unknown to them—does authority come with the position?
@Willful: That's why they took such a thorough approach to choosing a person for the position, even mentioning that the fate of future generations depends on it. They chose a person who has this authority or can easily win it, thanks to skills and character. The mayor was even killed because she chose the wrong person who was recommended to her. And the lady is also known in the lower tiers, exactly where the danger to the bunker community is born.
The best of the three episodes so far. We were able to convey enough of the tension with this engine, but so far the series has been running from cliche to cliche- it's not bad, but I would like something "new". Even with this engine, it was already clear that it would be repaired, but this was not the main idea of the series, but simply to convey the atmosphere of hopelessness in this world,xs
I also wonder how everyone knows each other, how Jules met the old lady who hasn't left the room for 20 years, how he knows the mayor... I hope her story will be revealed.
At the beginning of the series, I decided that the mayor would be charmingly killed after such brazen behavior. At the end of the episode, I already decided that I was mistaken, but still she did not survive the episode. I wonder when she was poisoned.
How I scream from this cringe, during the repair of the generator, the most pumped-up "alpha" just stands and looks at the thermometer, while screeching and convulsively grabbing the railing 🤡🤡🤡😀😂😂
@PussyDestroier: Are you by any chance the head of the "committee for the prevention of modern agendas in entertainment media"? That seems to be the only thing you care about in the series :D We actually went through each episode so that everyone knows how happy or not you are about this particular moment in each episode.
You guessed it, I'm really glad. It's like pouring rain in the middle of the desert. Among the last few dozen TV series, this is the only one where you are not forcibly dunked into this "agenda" with every frame. Accordingly, I am already accustomed to the presence of degenerates and degraders in every modern TV series, I am pleasantly surprised that they were not pushed here.
The first episodes didn't go very far, but I decided to give the series a chance anyway. Now I understand that I was not mistaken, I can not tear myself away. The end of the series is tough, of course, and in general the whole series is on my nerves☠️☠️ Do you like this
Imho, they spent a lot of time fixing the generator-they wanted to show a team of techies who would clearly shoot in the next season, even the squishy one would have a finest hour. Pysy. I'll read books.
@_ardatova_: you are obviously quite young, less than 35 years old for sure. In my childhood, these were popular candies. There were not only ducks, but also the heads of popular Walt Disney cartoons 😄 Well, the candies themselves are very mediocre. The candies were small and loaded into this device like into a pistol clip. The whole joke was jumping out a candy with this device right into your mouth.)
During the repair of the generator, this "muscular toxicity" did absolutely nothing, while the fragile Rebecca plowed for the whole team.
Of course, I understand the "progressive" agenda and all that, but when it's so absurd, it turns out too shabby. In reality, everything would be exactly the opposite, but the screenwriters don't seem to care about realism, they are more concerned that their Twitter creatures are not eaten for "sexism".
@PetyaVodolaz: Yes, I was bombed by his behavior the whole episode, too. What is his role of "boss" in general? If he didn't even figure it out to the elementary level (cool the engine with water)
I love the comments of physicists and engineers on any films and TV series where there is something like that)) I wonder if there are movies and TV series that would satisfy them.
I'm sorry for the mayor. So far, it turns out 1 episode - 1 death
@Meloman_Nastena: Yes, what physicists and engineers! It's just that the majority of the Russian-speaking audience who are sitting here have visited a sauna or a sauna at least once or have an idea about its structure (yes, in principle, this is understandable without a bathhouse, but nevertheless). If water gets on a hot surface, it instantly evaporates, turns into steam.
Yeah... in vain, the creators of the series saved on a technical consultant (although a "doctor of science" is not needed here, it was enough for a person familiar with a school physics course), I almost broke my nose with facepalms in moments related to the turbine, and especially with its "repair".))
The scene with the generator repair turned out to be very heated.. Yes, it is actually very interesting that when the generator was turned on and off, the picture overboard flashed really like the credits.. It smells of universal deception.
Well, but Jules acquired the skill and learned to swim) Commenting on the generator, do not forget, we are watching the series. If there was logic, then the series would not exist
It is very logical to let the most qualified mechanic go just to cool the radiator with a hose or whatever it was. There are no more people, and this is a very difficult task. And in general, the moment of repair is too long. That much.
How much do you have to be morons to shoot such a shit, this fool would come to my brigade, I would explain to her what steam is and show her how and what
The series is intense, but very interesting)) What is the green picture on the screen? The reality? Another incredible picture or what?)) The mechanics at the bottom are just beautiful, every last one of them, fans of their craft, saved the whole bunker) Is Jules the sheriff? Well, let's see how her career will develop. The mayor... that was pathetic, but a little predictable, for a reason they showed so many times how they drink water, where and who sees it) The series is gaining momentum with each episode))
Some kind of nonsense. Could no one come up to this kid and help him? Why exactly did she need to cool the radiator? It's a kick-ass, what kind of qualifications do you need to use a hose to water. And in general, such an incredible and important machine is serviced by at most 10 people, and Jules is the only one who understands it and is an intern. And if she tripped somewhere and split her head, what would you do? Yes, there should be a dozen or more like her, they should constantly train someone. How have they not become extinct in 140 years?
This is an incredibly dumb episode. It would be better not to come up with anything to repair the generator at all. Absolutely everything, from beginning to end, is a complete, fierce game 🤦♂️
It was stressful! In the end, the mayor was also removed. Jewel's going to have a hard time without her. If they also appoint someone like a dark-skinned bully with strawberries as mayor, then it's terrible.
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296And it is very interesting that at the time of the power outage, the screens showed a green world outside. It was as if the computer responsible for the video processing of the real picture had turned off
There should be a body near the tree, but it is not there.
I'm thinking more and more, but did the good 140 bunker years ago really win?
It's a pity, but your filthy attempt to spoil the viewing experience failed on me. The books have been read for a long time 🤷🏼♀️
So spoilers don't scare me. It's just amazing that someone would deliberately mess up, that's all.
And please note that your questions to me, in fact, very accurately reflect exactly your reasons for leaving spoiler comments in "this godforsaken place." Funny enough, don't you think?)
I will not wish you all the best. Otherwise, you might decide that it's nice to have a dialogue with you.
or poisoned
But in general, the repair is extremely primitive and provided - to start a backup generator, remove the outer casing, and replace spare parts. The question is, where did these very spare parts go, they should not rule the plate with hammers and a grinder in a good way.
In 140 years of continuous operation, such crap would have to be serviced more than a dozen times.
Steam supply without bypass valve? Yeah, well, well.
Steam is coming from somewhere, no one knows where, and after 140 years, no one has thought about the need to suspend its supply at some point..? Fuck, they're all brilliant engineers and mechanics there.
But this is a series
More precisely, dade is not cooked, but "steamed" like manta rays, only much faster.
Trash is if Shirley's character was cut out
Or if Bernard turned out to be a two-meter tall jock ala Skala
And so I would attribute the last two points to small claims, and even those can be explained somehow
"The White Princess", in turn, is a continuation of the series "The White Queen", in which Rebecca Ferguson played the main role.
That's the theory of serial handshakes.
That is, you go out like this and agree with Petya from the next floor that if you showed a fig with your fingers, then the picture in the lenses is red, and in fact it's cool on the street?
But no, we go out and just wipe. Although, there is always a chance that the output will be redacted, that is, there is no chance to make a sign, but just the same picture. This is very likely judging by the fact that they start to stumble and fall +/- in the same place.
It's difficult, there are questions, but it's interesting
it looks like they don't have books there, etc. that will help to master critical thinking, perhaps this is an experiment: what would like to identify processes for the growth of smart t.p.
No surprise, no shock, no anger, nothing) wiped - went to suffocate on the steps
So far, I am much more confused by the lack of at least wired telephony in the presence of computers and servers
But just on the spur of the moment -
heating the valve to redness at a pressure of 200 bar takes from several hours,
reducing the pressure in the system, however much it may be, by cooling only the valve will not work,
the temperature when heated to red is about 700 ° C and water is supplied there... I don't think it's necessary to explain what exactly was not plausible.
I can continue on the technical details, but is it necessary ...
I can accept that they got just such a design and device of the generator, then it's on the conscience of the designers, not their fault. But so that the key survival and breathing object has only 1 mechanic with no trainee...
Not to mention the organization of work. There is no work plan, no training, no backup and insurance personnel, no plan to eliminate obvious emergencies. They didn't even take care of the connection, they just yelled a lot during noisy work. There's only Armageddon at stake, why bother so much.
And so it is clearly visible that the series and the book differ greatly even in small things. Filmed, one might say, based on motives. Some characters have been added, others have been removed, some characters have completely changed their character and motivation. I don't know how good it will be in the future, but so far it's average
But there are too many questions about the absurdity of the script.
Why didn't Jules tell the mayor right away that the generator was on the verge of failure
Why is a vital generator serviced by only one good specialist who can get sick, die, etc.
Why only one generator when there should be several, as the equipment inevitably breaks down
Why is an inexperienced intern helping Jules fix the generator on which the life of the entire community depends
Why didn't Jules tell them to cool the valve in advance to give them more time to fix it, and why did she go to cool it herself? Anyone could have done it there
Well, in general, all the nonsense about fixing and installing the generator is some kind of fantasy, we have already written about this above
Because Jules, like any good specialist, is engaged in sabotage of her own work in order to stay in a warm place... so she didn't say until she changed her place to another one.
There should not be ONE generator that should provide vital activity at all...there should be 5 of them to diversify the risks of the power system. He is there alone, only because he is needed for the PLOT of THIS PARTICULAR SERIES ... the same answer is about the generator service.
As for the cooling of the generator, it's generally wild...she could have been boiled alive there with this method.
Fantasy is fierce, but this particular series is the wildest...it is especially clearly visible how Jules, shouting at her assistant, began to GRIND the BLADE....and don't cut it the fuck off. You can reconsider the moment at the beginning of their "repair"
But why should they know this if the bunker has its own unique laws of physics)))))
How Jules didn't cook there, I don't understand.
At the same time, you are standing a couple of meters in front of a cast-iron lid, which somehow turned red-hot in less than half an hour. For protection, you're wearing a tank top, overalls, alcohol vapors in your head, and a belief in Deus Ex Machina.
And so you start pouring this red-hot piece of cast iron from a fire hose.…
But here I give up, because in my understanding, the temperature in that room should be hell-like without that (we remember that there is no ventilation and the room is directly designed to direct hot steam into the turbine of the generator and it obviously shouldn't be 30C?), so for some reason the water is gaining faster. than it evaporates at such a temperature (no matter how icy it is), and the lid not only does not cool, but also gets hotter without boiling the water!
it's a pity that you closed your profile, I would love to read your other comments)
Please, although I didn't write anything special like that, just the facts or something close to them. 😅
And I had to close it because of some strange and offended inadequacies, well, that's not the point)
And as for the closed profile and the inadequacies, you're absolutely right: one of them is attacking me with disadvantages today. It's a pity that you have to hide because of such resentments.
@Kentavr>And I had to close it because of some strange and offended inadequacies
I'm still here. I'm still reading your comments. You didn't hide from me :D
Thank you! You have lifted my spirits and faith in humanity :)))
"No one knows. And who the fixies are is a big, big secret.
Actually, it's funny how they used the cliche of the generator from Through the Snow that broke down a hundred years later.
I didn't even write it down in BINGO for the first episode, but it looks like it's time.)
Ferguson pretty horse, nice to watch 😍
Plus, against the background of fixing the generator (which, by the way, is also a very important thing in this canon), so much happened.
And the picture on the screen raised questions, and I also think that they kill with gas in a protective suit, as a warning to others to be afraid.
I feel sorry for the mayor. The third episode introduces the character and kills him, an interesting plot presentation)
I hope the ending will be appropriate.
And for those who found it strange that people didn't react, they reacted that way and showed us those few people. But they're obviously afraid. For some reason, they are not afraid of the police, but they are afraid of the judge. Hardly a good character. The rest of the people were spinning, spinning, looking at the floor.
So the main thing in the series was not the strenuous repair of the turbine, but just these 3-4 frames, where nature is alive and dead.
It remains to understand what IT people are doing in their small closed world. Are they unknowingly maintaining an illusion?
I will hope that everything will be fine with the mayor and she will not die, a good woman, I suspect that someone could have poisoned her, I'm not sure how exactly, but there are different ways 🤔
And the scriptwriters do such a terrible job. Well, everything was sorted out before me, why this whole generator breakdown is fiction in a bad way.
In fact, it's a shame for such a skew.
I wonder if people won't be embarrassed that some nouname from the workshop has become the sheriff, who doesn't even know how to do this job? I didn't quite understand about the structure of their police department. In theory, the sheriff should have had different police guys under his command, and they should definitely be perplexed by this situation. In the same place, you should not only wear a badge and walk around the bunker with a smart look, I think, but also perform some basic duties and keep some kind of records. I hope the sheriff left her instructions on that. Otherwise, it will be as strange as possible and in fact someone will have to teach her how to do her job from 0, but 100% she will forget about it and run around the bunker "in search of the truth.".
And the ending is even more gushing - I thought the mayor would be ousted after her "willfulness," but for her to be removed RIGHT AWAY is complete trash, and considering that she didn't eat anything from the judge and her henchmen, it means they have poison capsules in their bodies or they let poison gas into her bathroom... who is this fucking judge, they would have already shown
The series cannon, the heat is off, my nerves are on edge, I hope this will be the best series of 2023.
No, I understand that theoretically they are trying to show us that this is how she overcame her fear of water and learned to swim, but damn. Everything looks so fast and unreliable that it's already tin.
All series in the post-apocalyptic have become the same
A hundred, Through the Snow - they've already used the same story arcs.
Why does the Bunker have such a high rating???
We are building a giant bunker for people to live in for many years, where electricity will be the key resource, as it provides light, life support, and everything else.
But we will have only one generator, and we don't need any backup or backup systems. Well, for a laugh, we'll add a kind of backup, which will not be enough for anything anyway... And the only main generator on which the life of the entire budnker depends will also be made practically unusable, without any clear maintenance scheme and replacement of even the simplest parts, such as blades. Well, we won't leave any spare parts, if anything, let them straighten it with hammers.
The mayor was even killed because she chose the wrong person who was recommended to her.
And the lady is also known in the lower tiers, exactly where the danger to the bunker community is born.
We actually went through each episode so that everyone knows how happy or not you are about this particular moment in each episode.
It's like pouring rain in the middle of the desert.
Among the last few dozen TV series, this is the only one where you are not forcibly dunked into this "agenda" with every frame.
Accordingly, I am already accustomed to the presence of degenerates and degraders in every modern TV series, I am pleasantly surprised that they were not pushed here.
Pysy. I'll read books.
As far as I'm concerned, this whole emotional fix was created just to take up timekeeping.
Otherwise, I like everything.
Well, the candies themselves are very mediocre. The candies were small and loaded into this device like into a pistol clip. The whole joke was jumping out a candy with this device right into your mouth.)
Of course, I understand the "progressive" agenda and all that, but when it's so absurd, it turns out too shabby. In reality, everything would be exactly the opposite, but the screenwriters don't seem to care about realism, they are more concerned that their Twitter creatures are not eaten for "sexism".
I'm sorry for the mayor. So far, it turns out 1 episode - 1 death
Seriously ? :)
Commenting on the generator, do not forget, we are watching the series. If there was logic, then the series would not exist
Zadornov was probably right..
What is the green picture on the screen? The reality? Another incredible picture or what?))
The mechanics at the bottom are just beautiful, every last one of them, fans of their craft, saved the whole bunker)
Is Jules the sheriff? Well, let's see how her career will develop.
The mayor... that was pathetic, but a little predictable, for a reason they showed so many times how they drink water, where and who sees it)
The series is gaining momentum with each episode))