s01e04 — Episode 4

All the Light We Cannot See — s01e04 — Episode 4

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Release Date: 02.11.2023 15:00
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andre5000
andre5000
02 Nov 2023, 22:22 #
One of the strongest miniseries of the year. I don't know how the film adaptation came out, but I'm definitely adding the book to the queue.
id482062259
id482062259
03 Nov 2023, 21:43 #
I really admit the book as something that can be added to the queue. The plot is quite a universal one. But the realization in the form of this series did not cause emotions. Reminded me of all the telenovelas at once.
mixer1701
mixer1701
03 Nov 2023, 21:58 #
It's nice to see the actors from "Babylon-Berlin" and "darkness".
SemperAdMeliora
SemperAdMeliora
PRO
04 Nov 2023, 03:56 #
A very good series. I don't care about the book as much as when I started watching it, but it's worth watching the series. The actors are great. Lori and Hofmann in particular. The plot is also great. It's a pity they didn't insert a scene where Werner and Marie continue their friendship after the war. But it was still interesting.
lumay
lumay
04 Nov 2023, 23:13 #
The series turned out to be much lighter than the book. Maybe it's good that they left the end open..
wonkabonka
wonkabonka
05 Nov 2023, 14:14 #
A good series with excellent acting. I wanted to read a book.
Кукабара
Кукабара
06 Nov 2023, 16:40 #
The series came out much better than the book itself. It's good that we didn't insert some scenes from the book, but concentrated on the main thing. Although it was not without American propaganda.
Saint-Malo was almost completely destroyed by American bombing by mistake, since there were practically no fascists there. When the Americans entered the city, they were met by ruins and mountains of corpses of the civilian population.
andre5000
andre5000
07 Nov 2023, 01:37 #
@Kookaburra: But how did the Germans lay many kilometers of tunnels in the cleared catacombs? "They say there are a thousand Germans ready to die, but not to give up." Well, if by the book
Кукабара
Кукабара
07 Nov 2023, 02:12 #
@andre5000: are you so naive that you think that the book contains historical facts?
There were about a hundred people out of all the fascists there.
There is even more American propaganda in the book, which protects Americans with their bombing of the civilian population. And all this is based on the opposition of which Russians are wild animals and which Americans are carrying light and freedom.
andre5000
andre5000
07 Nov 2023, 02:16 #
@Kookabara: So you first discuss the series and the book, and then Wikipedia turns on in you and you start comparing fiction with the truth?!
Кукабара
Кукабара
07 Nov 2023, 02:19 #
@andre5000: why not? The book was announced as historical, not as fiction. And the movie is also announced as based on historical facts.
andre5000
andre5000
07 Nov 2023, 02:32 #
@Kookabara: Yes, it's historical prose. You can read the definition of this concept. Suddenly you will be surprised that there is a place for fiction there.
Кукабара
Кукабара
07 Nov 2023, 02:40 #
@andre5000: I don't understand what you want from me? Do you want me to write that no, no, it's all true? Is the author not lying when he writes that there were thousands of fascists there? Or what?
That's why I wrote that it was quite reasonable when they omitted a lot in the film and concentrated on the melodramatic plot. Otherwise it would just be a cringe.
Кукабара
Кукабара
07 Nov 2023, 02:50 #
@andre5000: and if we are going to rest on history, then I will write like this - there is more historical truth in Dumas' novels than in Dorr's novel.
andre5000
andre5000
07 Nov 2023, 02:56 #
@Kookaburra: I see. From my first comment: don't tie history to fiction. You have already come to this yourself.
Кукабара
Кукабара
07 Nov 2023, 02:59 #
@andre5000: it's not me doing it, it's the author. And then they write - don't tie the story. And then they say that Russia ONCE AGAIN wants to drop a nuclear bomb.
It's all in the same row.
AndreySmith13
AndreySmith13
25 Mar 2024, 19:06 #
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Кукабара
Кукабара
25 Mar 2024, 19:14 #
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alex6147
alex6147
08 Nov 2023, 14:01 #
A wonderful job imbued with kindness, love and hope. Excellent acting, interesting work of the director, revealing the character of all the characters. An unambiguous recommendation!
Christipo
Christipo
08 Nov 2023, 23:41 #
It was very, as strange as it sounds now, beautiful!
Incredible shooting, landscapes, beautiful actors, cool game!
A very very big recommendation 🌟
Christipo
Christipo
08 Nov 2023, 23:41 #
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nataliysk
nataliysk
09 Nov 2023, 21:43 #
Great mini-series!
olkapolakova1029
olkapolakova1029
10 Nov 2023, 15:00 #
I haven't read the book, but the series turned out great. Especially touched by the soul, the scrupulous development of storylines.
zzz_203
zzz_203
10 Nov 2023, 15:49 #
A very emotional series came out ...
The picture, the music, the cast all worked out in a wonderful story...❤️
ir1sha2021
ir1sha2021
11 Nov 2023, 01:42 #
In the comments above it is written that there were no Nazis in the besieged city. This is not true, three or four English-speaking sources claim about 12 tons of Germans who refused to surrender. The city was indeed destroyed, it was an important trading port
Apriorie
Apriorie
12 Nov 2023, 14:37 #
And then what happened?(Who has read the book, is there a continuation of the story?
lumay
lumay
13 Nov 2023, 00:57 #
SPOILER
ALERT .
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There was a slightly different ending with the diamond detective, he was killed by Werner. Then he escorted Marie-Laure out of the city, and surrendered to the Americans. He was ill himself, so they put him in the hospital, but one day he came out of the tent in a fever and blew up on a mine:(
Professor and (Daniel's father) was Uncle Etienne's brother, like he died in the First World War, Madame Manek was a housekeeper, not a sister. Uncle Etienne survived. Marie Laure lived a long happy life, became a scientist. A colleague of Werner came to the already adult Jutta and gave her his things. Jutta went to the place of her brother's death and visited Marie-Laure in Paris.
I don't really remember what happened to the stone - like Marie-Laure herself found it in the model of their house, because her father made her puzzles with opening houses, she took it to that place with oysters when she evacuated, and Werner came back for it when he saw her off. Anyway, Jutta gave the house to Marie-Laure when they met
YulaFiddle
YulaFiddle
17 Dec 2023, 21:50 #
I thank you from the bottom of my heart!
yanniii
yanniii
31 Jan 2024, 20:22 #
Can I complete the finale:
Werner took the house with him as a reminder of Marie-Laure, he immediately realized that the house had a secret, but he did not need the diamond, he threw it into the water, and hid the key to this place with snails in the house. In the end, when Jutta returns the house to Marie-Laure, she discovers the key there. The last chapter on behalf of the stone is "Sea of Fire", where he says that he has been to many places, and now lies at the bottom and snails crawl on it
christinapirs
christinapirs
07 Mar 2025, 16:59 #
@lumay: thanks, I didn't have to Google to find which end in the book) for some reason, I thought that one of them did not survive (I guessed that the guy) and that Uncle Etienne should logically survive.
Irena_Turner
Irena_Turner
13 Nov 2023, 00:10 #
A very beautiful story! Perhaps one of the best series of this year. Everything is in harmony and the script, and the picture, and the actors. I also wanted to read the book)
lexoiche
lexoiche
14 Nov 2023, 20:21 #
First I read the book and fell in love with it (taking advantage of the moment - I also recommend the second novel from Anthony Dorr - The Bird City behind the Clouds - especially if you like stories in the spirit of Cloud Atlas). I already found out about the series after reading that it was going to be released. I was waiting for him, and... I was a little disappointed. No, the actors are wonderful, the cast is amazing, the story itself was also told. But very succinctly, removing a lot. It's like taking a recipe for a dish, throwing out some of the ingredients from it and forcing some of the remaining ones to play the role of the missing ones - it looks like the same, but the taste is not the same. But it's worth admitting that I liked the ending a little more in the series - specifically the line with Werner. Here the final is open, in the book the final is completed for him:(
suzanna9491
suzanna9491
16 Nov 2023, 15:46 #
A very touching series, the main actors are wonderful. In the end, it began to shake a little from the "good Americans who came to save everyone," but what to do.
Fenyamin
Fenyamin
PRO
18 Nov 2023, 14:21 #
A very beautiful and touching story.
The main character is very beautiful and her eyes are very beautiful, it's a pity if she is actually blind, as they said in the comments in previous episodes. ❤️🖤
A well-chosen cast: Ruffalo, Laurie, Hoffman, Eidinger and "the cherry on the cake" - Aria Mia Loberti.
Vesta_11
Vesta_11
PRO
22 Jan 2024, 01:02 #
In fact, the blind one is the actress who played the role of the little heroine 🥲
Lav-chik
Lav-chik
18 Jan 2024, 14:59 #
That the book, that the series is not "military" (the war is affected here, in my opinion, in a very light form)
Lav-chik
Lav-chik
18 Jan 2024, 15:41 #
And also, I don't remember how it was described in the book, but to throw this stone just like that near the shore, it's very strange. But it wasn't even her stone, but the property of France.
tatrati
tatrati
05 Feb 2024, 12:47 #
They made a great scene with the murder of detective diamond, especially the way he falls and the last thing he sees is a diamond...
Mira5
Mira5
28 Feb 2024, 04:23 #
Ugh, how hard it was to see that. On the one hand, the actors are very good, everything looks beautiful and the music is not bad. On the other hand, these good actors are forced to speak idiotic, pretentious dialogues, and the plot causes a reaction of "why? What the hell?" almost every 10 minutes.
An SS officer can block the whole city, but for some reason he cannot order his men to comb this small town and find a blind girl, even though she is not even hiding and just walking down the street. The Nazis, for some reason, urgently need a kid who knows how to fasten 2 wires with chewing gum. In the camp for special National socialist youth, trust trainings are conducted, they teach how to assemble a radio at speed and write with a stick on wet ground. Werner killed his commander to save the life of a French resistance fighter, but all the same, the entire French resistance begins to yell at him in unison and present something, until they are very successfully killed by American artillery. A blind girl aptly kills the main villain right in the head and pretentiously pronounces one-liner, like the hero of some action movie. It is very difficult to perceive this in any way adequately.
Vibes are straight "The World is on fire", except that, unlike him, "All the light invisible to us" can still be watched and admired at least by the actors.
Aprillian
Aprillian
14 May 2024, 05:27 #
Yes yes. You've written everything. A very improbable fairy tale. But the girls like it. And that's good.
Satine27
Satine27
09 Sep 2024, 09:04 #
@Mira5: Hooray, I wasn't the only one killed by pretentious dialogues, meaningless plot twists and lack of logic. It's really nice to watch the actors, but everything else is really top-notch
kindbeatle
kindbeatle
10 May 2024, 22:55 #
The book was already quite cinematic, just take it and shoot it. But they shoveled and simplified everything so much that it turned out to be a flat and vulgar mess, worthy of one-off films from the Hallmark TV channel. Good characters speak platitudes in the most pretentious tone, bad ones growl in raised tones, regardless of the situation, so that the viewer understands that they are bad, well.
It's a shame for the great actors.
There was also a question why they recruited German actors, everyone speaks English anyway, and the French are not played by the French.
I liked the use of archive footage after the credits.
Polin-ka
Polin-ka
24 Jul 2024, 21:50 #
It's a pity that Marie's father was killed by this sick fascist. She hoped that he would come back to her
Simosha9
Simosha9
20 Aug 2024, 09:09 #
With the last episode came disappointment. And immediately all the previous weak points of the plot became so obvious, which were swallowed in the hope of a powerful ending, but alas. Take, for example, the line with the stone: the father died, for the sake of his safety, the daughter threw the stone near the shore. Of the advantages: actors and a picture.
фрау_шнапс
фрау_шнапс
11 Sep 2024, 19:35 #
I am grateful to this series for only one thing — it brought me to the most precious book. And for everything else, I will write big negative comments and try to justify them. In short, it is a pity that the book was written in the 14th year and it has to endure such a lousy film adaptation, where absolutely everything is bad except actors, camera work and editing.
Ideally, it is a book for the spirit of Soviet cinema with its measured narration about the hard life of people of the last century in 20 episodes, for example, "The Long Road in the Dunes", "The Eternal Call". We could see the mines of Gilsenkirchen, the Schalke club, the life of the Ruhr region, full of soot, Napoleon, colorful Paris from Dumas' novels and the endless Museum of Natural History, with its labyrinths similar to the Louvre. It would be simple and beautiful, like the consciousness of a twentieth-century man.
But, of course, I understand that for a modern viewer, showing 80% of the book where the childhood of Werner and Marie-Laure takes place will be unreadable. Therefore, it is necessary to make a vivid caricature of the Reich, an abundance of evil SS men and their evil German (comically going against the background of English speech), tormenting little girls and even their little boys, cram in more modern ethical phrases like "the war because of one old fool", a lot of hints about the problems of minorities the other day. To make the plot flat, theatrical, and, I'm sorry, but childishly stupid: a fairy tale with evil fools and kind kindness. The atmosphere and depth were killed. By the middle of the second episode, it was as if I was slowly starting to watch Inglourious Bastards (we even had one of the Diehl brothers play a boogie-woogie officer again), and not a film adaptation of a touching book.
Why couldn't we make an atmosphere like in "Seventeen Moments of Spring", "Our Mothers, our Fathers", or even like in the modern "On the Western Front without Change" from the same Netflix? We could get the moral tragedy of a man, a child in the adult world, who, despite the horrors of war, remained kind... broken, but not embittered.
фрау_шнапс
фрау_шнапс
11 Sep 2024, 19:38 #
My gentle, kind and smart Werner with snow-colored hair…
Well, at least he is played by Hoffman, who is good at sensual roles for boys like in "Darkness" and "My Land"; and he has grown up as an actor. However, the character's character on the screen is still more tempered. And it hurts my eye that in the very first episode, Werner gets so involved in saving Marie that he kills a colleague, and goes on like an iron maniac. It would have been better if this murder scene had been shown at the end, it would have been more logical. Because I didn't ask myself: wow, he killed his own for her, I wonder why? And then joyfully ran to look... no. And anyway, is Werner making gestures?
In the Pfennig-Volkheimer bundle, it was the second one who was the predator, and not so that Werner was the leader-initiator even for his own life. Werner had only one chance to show his four–year inner rebellion - not to betray the Leblanc, to kill von Rumple. The rest of the time, up to these moments, he silently walked where he was sent. They also killed the giant Volkheimer, making him some kind of stupid simpleton. But he, unlike Werner, survived. And he was not a slow-witted bully with Alyosha–Popovich's phrases.
фрау_шнапс
фрау_шнапс
11 Sep 2024, 19:39 #
I didn't like Marie-Laure's caste outwardly. However, I gained respect for the blind actress, and tried to get into her acting. But... it didn't work out.
The fair-haired, freckled Marie was light, brave in a feminine way and it was very fascinating in the book. My little French girl…
I was seduced only by the couple of Mark Buffalo and the little girl actress Nell Saton, their moments on the screen are like from a good fairy tale.
And where is my blonde Jutta the Valkyrie? Where is my rebel? Why is there nothing left of her? It was as if he and his brother had switched places.
I didn't like any of the cast of minor characters, and even Lars Eidinger couldn't scare von Rumple, who turned out to be bad, not scary.
missraya____
missraya____
04 Dec 2024, 23:26 #
@frau_schnaps: I subscribe to every word! I couldn't even master the first episode, it was very caricatured, theatrical and just stupid. although the scenery, the shooting, the actors (Hoffman!!!) They're lovely. I would also like to note the absence of such a significant character in the life of the main character - Frederick ... they stupidly assigned his qualities to Werner
InSoo
InSoo
26 Oct 2024, 13:48 #
😭💔❤️‍🩹
HACKER777
HACKER777
PRO
16 Feb 2025, 22:54 #
I really liked the series, it's a bit boring and drawn out in places, but it's a solid 4 out of 5.

Still, I would not dare to claim that the actress is definitely blind, as some wrote, but the fact that she is visually impaired is a fact.

And she fitted in very well with the cast.

A really beautiful and talented actress!
christinapirs
christinapirs
07 Mar 2025, 16:57 #
1) I was waiting for Marie to shoot the bastard officer herself, HOORAY, it happened!
2) Where's the epilogue, CARL, well, 30 seconds could have been shown! Whether the guy is alive or not, in the end, they met after the war or not (Well, everything was perfect, not a TV series, but 15 out of 10! I'm going to Google how everything in the book ended.
3) Vibe of the Dark Beginnings, music of the Hunger Games, from the creator of Stranger Things - that's how this series should be advertised)
Tarja89
Tarja89
16 Oct 2025, 11:34 #
The only advantage of the film adaptation is the excellent actors in the roles of Marie, her father, aunt and Etienne (it's not Hugh Laurie's fault that he was prescribed such a script)

The first big fat disadvantage: Werner was made into some kind of unfortunate victim of circumstances, although according to the book he chose his own path. Okay, he didn't have much choice, but he chose to follow it (and no one threatened him with a gun, he went to school on his own, full of false hopes). And he had a friend at school who chose not to go that way.

In general, if Dorr showed the Americans in a favorable light, which he did not do, it did not justify the fascists. In the book, Werner is an accomplice and his ending is logical. And here is the "victim".
After Etienne's yell, "But he's good! "I just got upset and stayed there until the end of this mess.

A smaller problem against this background is the lost logic of events, everyone is running around the destroyed city under bombing, the fascist cannot find Marie's house among three streets when there were signs with a list of tenants on the doors.

And a lot of pretentious, very ear-splitting monologues. Which are hard to believe.

Oh, and of course we're used to it being easy to kill people on screen, but Marie would hardly be able to kill a person. It's not that easy to do, even if you hate him, and it's a good thing she didn't become the killer in the book. These were parts of the Werner Arch.

I am silent about the inappropriately caricatured fascists, everyone is overplaying and fighting in hysterics from scratch.

As is often the case, the book is better.
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