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1 season
s01e05
s01e01 - Are You Happy in Your Life?
s01e02 - Trip of a Lifetime
s01e03 - The Box
s01e04 - The Corridor
s01e05 - Worldless
s01e06 - Superposition
s01e07 - In the Fires of Dead Stars
s01e08 - Jupiter
s01e09 - Entanglement

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Soldmit
Soldmit
29 May 12:43 #
The further away, the more the creators deviate from the plot of the original book, especially in part of Jason's line #2. It looks cheerful, but it would be nice for the authors to show futuristic alternative worlds)
MarinaG
MarinaG
29 May 15:31 #
@Soldmit: Apparently, this is due to large budgets, which may not exist.
alexey
alexey
29 May 16:55 #
@MarinaG:
- Blair, come with us.
- Apple can't afford my thoughts
MarinaG
MarinaG
29 May 19:38 #
@alexey: the fact that this is Apple does not mean that they are ready to put a lot of money into this particular series)
iamanatoly
iamanatoly
PRO
31 May 22:43 #
@Soldmit: And I like that we have retreated from the book.
The idea of sealing a container sounds right cool
SmilePS
SmilePS
01 Jun 05:00 #
@iamanatoly: If a container is moved in one world, will it move in another? Or will a new container be created?
torrerro
torrerro
04 Jun 17:28 #
@Soldmit: Well, Jason-2 said that we can only be in those versions of the multiverse that are not far from their world. Therefore, it is logical to assume that alternative versions of universes cannot go too far in development and therefore are not so futuristic.
spirka
spirka
05 Jun 03:37 #
@torrerro: It's just not clear how dinosaurs turned out to be behind one of the doors. So in one of the worlds, there was no development at all?
torrerro
torrerro
05 Jun 07:55 #
@spirka: you know, you gave me the idea to get acquainted with the original source and right now I started reading the book. I understand that after reading to the end, I will find out what will happen in the series, but I think it will not spoil the impression. So at least I will try to understand some incomprehensible points, if of course I can find an explanation for them. If there are no obvious spoilers, I will answer you.
torrerro
torrerro
23 Jun 10:31 #
@spirka: the book differs slightly from the series, some moments in the series are missing, some have been added, for example, Jason's line-2. In the book, the entire narrative is conducted on behalf of the good Jason, all his actions and thoughts. The series expands the book. And if the moments that are not clear in the series, they are not explained in any way in the book.
Lady_Alin
Lady_Alin
21 Jul 20:54 #
And at what point were the dinosaurs shown? I can't find this moment.
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
22 Jul 19:46 #
@Lady_Alin: not really dinosaurs, there was a moment when they opened a brother-in-law in a misty forest and there were some silhouettes of monsters there
AnnieAna
AnnieAna
08 Jul 01:20 #
@Soldmit: I don't know anything about books and what the point is, but in the series this is the story of a person and his choice, so the fantastic component is just a canvas.
Tuliackbaev
Tuliackbaev
29 May 13:31 #
I think he should come across a world where both his sons are alive.
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
31 May 01:04 #
@Tuliackbaev: and do the same to Jason there as they did to him😂
Phantasmat
Phantasmat
PRO
14 Jun 22:58 #
@Some shit: we can assume that both sons are alive, but their local Jason is not. But then, on such an " almost" happy note, the series will end.
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
31 May 03:25 #
@Tuliackbaev: Or where Jason created a cube and is happily married at the same time) It would be a way out for kind Jason and Amanda, because the drug is running out.
apb48
apb48
29 May 13:33 #
I can't do it - the main thing is not to allow divergences of thoughts and subconscious desires. You stand in front of the door of the store (in the TV series box / container) with the idea of leaving in three minutes with a loaf of bread, wherever, you go out with a bottle of beer and a loaf of bread, and sometimes even without bread.A multiverse with this approach is clearly not for me. 🙂

P.S. The box should be styled like a police box and attach a lantern on top. The questions that the audience had about the previous episodes will disappear by themselves.🙂
alavitka
alavitka
30 May 21:58 #
@apb48: >> The box should be styled like a police box and a lantern should be attached on top. The questions that the audience had about the previous episodes will disappear by themselves.🙂

Rzhunimaga! That's five!
But by the way, the comment about the suitcase of money in another universe was answered.
Hidji
Hidji
31 May 18:05 #
@alavitka: and they answered again from the series "version for morons". Money is different everywhere, serial numbers are a problem, but there is gold, precious stones, jewelry. Oh, no, it's too difficult, right?)))
SmilePS
SmilePS
31 May 19:26 #
@Hidji: Only deputies can get money out of thin air. If some ordinary person suddenly gets rich by a couple of million, then the police will immediately come to him.
Hidji
Hidji
31 May 19:50 #
@SmilePS: It's brilliant. The police would have come to his cube).
id753261880
id753261880
31 May 22:08 #
@Hidji: There's a brilliant idea from the same author in the comments below. Hand over the cube to the flower shop, and use the money to buy beer. The police will come, but Cuba will not.And I think the beer will be over by the time the police arrive. The most serious question is what needs to be done in order not to lose..You are doing this event while in another reality.😃

P.S. We found a case of vodka. They sold it, and the money was drunk.
alavitka
alavitka
01 Jun 14:46 #
@Hidji: Jewelry is not enough money, diamonds are also marked with a micro-stamp, pure gold is also bank bars with some signs. Raw dredges - in today's world, it will also be difficult to just take and sell. In addition, for millions at half price from left-wing buyers, there are many possible puncture points + a sudden flood of the market, and it can again attract the attention of the police. I don't defend the authors, I criticize them mercilessly, but now it's really not that simple. Kmk is easier to use cash with a similar serial number for small things - there is less chance of getting knocked up. But if we are talking about millions, you can't carry them in your pocket, American money for 100 bucks is generally full of parasites.
Hidji
Hidji
01 Jun 16:42 #
@alavitka: He has an infinite number of worlds at his disposal, it's just a limitless potential for fraud. Believe me, even an amateur can immediately come up with an incredible number of options). And yes, I think dragstones are simply more convenient for transportation. An apple-sized bag can cost as much as a cash collector van full of dollars). Signs and brands are bullshit without a wanted list in the databases, they do not cancel free circulation. The most obvious thing is that in infinity there is a world where the cube is directly in the diamond vault, where you can go, pick up the stones and go out into the world with the same entrance, where they can freely buy these stones in the nearest building). Why is it only in our world to sell? Infinity. Variants. If we were told that everything works like this, then why not??? Potentially, he can even find a world where this drug for movement is freely available, if the fantasy would be developed.
SmilePS
SmilePS
02 Jun 14:18 #
@Hidji: The dilettante's problem is not that he cannot come up with a way, but that he will then not be able to escape from persecution. In fact, there is even its own definition for this - money laundering. It is a very complex process that requires a lot of connections at the highest levels. If you don't have these connections, then either the police or the mafia will catch you.
Hidji
Hidji
02 Jun 14:29 #
@SmilePS: how if you entered this world and left it? Who should I catch? Where to catch? What kind of evidence? He's not going to buy a mansion for himself and live in it until the tax office arrives, please! There is no one and nowhere to come for him, this is a completely far - fetched argument.
SmilePS
SmilePS
02 Jun 14:43 #
@Hidji: Oh, so that's the problem. You're talking about buying beer for fifty kopecks, and I'm talking about buying a house and a laboratory worth tens of millions of dollars.
After all, he began to communicate with the billionaire, therefore, he expects billions, and not just take his wife to a restaurant, and buy a TV in the hallway.

But we don't know what he wants yet. So let's take a look in the next episodes.
Hidji
Hidji
02 Jun 17:14 #
@SmilePS: this is not the first time you have talked about beer, but I am talking purely pragmatically about a secret scientific laboratory, which is absolutely not declared due to secrecy). And he clearly has experience in observing such a regime. At the same time, with a cube-shaped tool, this is not a problem, there would be a desire and free time, and the antihero also quit his job in fact.
albinka_
albinka_
08 Jun 01:28 #
@Hidji: Apparently, the fault is a limited amount of serum, which you do not want to waste on "running across worlds for the sake of fraud. But on the other hand, gg*2 even "conducted an excursion for his friend glad of millions, which is also doubtful, yes. Well, to steal something in a world in which the box leads directly to a warehouse with diamonds (in which a camera is probably installed - at least to attract unnecessary attention).
Hidji
Hidji
08 Jun 01:34 #
@albinka_: and you are there too) Well, yes, detectives from the local police will get on the trail, collect their cube and go after him😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁 I've already written about the serum, and then, he did it, only for some reason in his reality.
albinka_
albinka_
08 Jun 01:59 #
@Hidji: Oh, no, I'm not talking about the police at all) If the news tells about a mysterious box that appeared out of nowhere, Jason from the diamond world can find out his idea and also do something)

In general, yes, you are right, you can come up with a lot of options for how to get money if you want, so you can write everything off to the fact that the hero simply does not want, or pride does not allow stealing in other worlds. except for "his" life)
Hidji
Hidji
08 Jun 02:37 #
@albinka_: the harsh reality of films about quantum entanglement). Either they have a lot of stupid things and simplifications, or they have too much nausea. The balance is extremely rare to maintain, the topic is complex.
arahant
arahant
PRO
21 Aug 09:30 #
@SmilePS: well, taking a check for 50 million from a dude who plans to disappear in an unknown direction after that is, of course, much safer
Flanker
Flanker
29 May 16:06 #
This series turned out to be more interesting than the previous one. The drama was piled up, it was a pity to look at the dying Daniela. It turns out to be such a Multiverse – limited by the number of doses of the drug and the power of imagination of travelers on slightly branched worlds.
oldbk
oldbk
PRO
29 May 19:27 #
I like this approach, that going out into another world is connected with thoughts/emotions, it's more interesting than in the Sliding Ones, where they jumped from world to world like a lottery.
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
31 May 03:20 #
@oldbk: But the strangest and most illogical thing for me is that the characters can travel in the same portal together, that's right, it doesn't fit with anything at all. And so the concept is cool of course...

And finally they explained what happens if the effect of the drug ends - the characters find themselves in a box, the world outside of which is chosen at the moment of termination of the drug (in this series in a dream). It's also a very interesting move.
КрошкаЕнот
КрошкаЕнот
31 May 15:08 #
That's why, for some reason, I remember the good old movie The Fly, where just a fly got into the teleportation module and that's the kind of stuff that came out)) and here 2 consciousnesses are transferred somewhere without problems, without mixing or displacing each other ... unlikely, even for fiction
6o4ka
6o4ka
PRO
02 Jun 14:27 #
@Iamliam23: At least the world is created by the consciousness of the one who opens the door.
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
03 Jun 00:15 #
@Tiny: You reminded me of another strange moment - when the heroine with the wasps came out of the cube and infected the world.
And how did these wasps get into the superposition without a special drug? I understand that they flew after her, but they did not fly into the cube, but into the tunnel, and he is in a superposition that only a person under the drug sees. In short, a strange moment.
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
03 Jun 00:16 #
@6o4ka: Well, at least yes) Well, I'm ready to accept this convention as a whole, but it's already on the verge.
Пушистая_кошка
Пушистая_кошка
06 Jun 10:07 #
@Iamliam23: it seemed to me that that world was already infected with wasps, and they attacked the heroine when she came out of the cube.
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
06 Jun 13:38 #
@Fluffy: Nene, the idea there was that she picked up an OS in some world and came to this one. But it's pretty crazy, how could wasps get into a superposition state?))
Svetaforever
Svetaforever
21 Jun 02:46 #
@Iamliam23: I agree with you, the same thing happened when the main characters opened the flood and the water enveloped them while the door was open. As soon as it was closed, everything instantly disappeared
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
21 Jun 04:00 #
@Svetaforever: Well, yes, there are questions here, of course. I understand that you can take something with you into the cube. It is also possible to enter an open tunnel from the world - evil Jason carried ampoules. But how do objects without consciousness and inanimate objects get into the tunnel without the participation of a person with an altered consciousness (xs)
Flexeus
Flexeus
17 Jul 23:09 #
@Svetaforever: the water flooded the cube. After the door was closed, the heroes with water were moved into the corridor and the water spread over it
Voider
Voider
29 May 19:54 #
With such a mindset, as they went back to boxing, they might accidentally find a world even better than his native one...
gulliverfoil
gulliverfoil
29 May 23:06 #
But there will already be an alternative version of it.
chestersmoke
chestersmoke
30 May 23:16 #
Strictly speaking, one can imagine a world where the timeline of the wandering Jason completely coincides with the timeline of the local Jason (or even slightly better) up to the point of abduction T, and add one more detail to this world: at the moment T + (time in exile), the local Jason suddenly decides to go to another world forever (for some personal reason of his own) or will he suddenly die so that no one will ever know about it (fell into a volcano?😂). In that case, wandering Jason wins.
the_Priest
the_Priest
01 Jun 12:13 #
@chestersmoke: In short, do what Rick and Morty do in this situation)))
Raf8678
Raf8678
PRO
29 May 21:28 #
Oh, how it's gaining momentum... However, the thought occurred to me at some point, nothing in the world appears out of nowhere. According to the laws of physics, a container cannot appear in another world out of nothing. in fact, it should be the same container that they entered, which means that in another world it should disappear. Otherwise, in the world where they were drowning in water, where was the container before that? Just swimming? and who created it there?
SmilePS
SmilePS
29 May 21:41 #
@Raf8678: I am a simple person, and I think simply. A container appears in our world, we move it ten meters to the side, after which the aliens come to us again, and we have a second container. We rent the first one on chertmed, we use the money to buy beer. And so on indefinitely.
However, it may happen that our universe will suddenly become heavier by an infinite number of containers.
Raf8678
Raf8678
PRO
29 May 21:43 #
@SmilePS: :))) Well, yes. And I'm talking about the same thing
krook
krook
29 May 22:17 #
@Raf8678: this is the main discrepancy. The container must have been created earlier in the new world. It doesn't appear out of nowhere.
But then how did he appear in the first world? Who created it?
Raf8678
Raf8678
PRO
30 May 19:15 #
@krook: Well, yes. It would be more logical if the cube disappeared from the original world into the final one and stayed there while the door was open, for example, and returned when closed. Then, more or less, it is adjusted to the physics
20stars
20stars
31 May 00:30 #
@Raf8678: then, it would be more or less correct to call it teleportation.
20stars
20stars
31 May 00:38 #
@krook: and who said that peace with the good is the first, and with the evil is the second?
JlieNe
JlieNe
PRO
31 May 05:14 #
@20stars: in quantum physics, there are no numbers at all, there can be no first or second - there is everything at once.
20stars
20stars
31 May 09:01 #
@JlieNe: I understand this, I tried to formulate the question in simpler terms with krook's words. In other worlds, no one is obliged to make a cube, because a cube is not a cube at all, but a quantum bridge from the main world (evil J.) to all the others.
JlieNe
JlieNe
PRO
31 May 13:47 #
@20stars: Unfortunately, we have to, the cube is only a superposition from the inside, and from the outside it is a very good position. The position must be in order to observe it. Because without an observer, any position is a superposition.

The cube cannot appear out of nowhere, it must be everywhere and at once at the same time in the dimension in which they travel. In the film and in the book, this is omitted, because the story would not have turned out very well.

There was only one little remark explaining that you can open doors not to all universes, but only to those in which you were born. This can be rephrased as - only those universes where the cube was created.
albinka_
albinka_
08 Jun 01:32 #
@JlieNe: "you can open doors not to all universes, but only to those in which you were born" - there were dinosaurs in some of the worlds, i.e. these are not ancient dinosaurs, but guys from Jurassic Park, it turns out :D
arahant
arahant
PRO
21 Aug 09:34 #
@20stars: Teleportation is when movement takes place within the same universe
krook
krook
19 Nov 09:35 #
@albinka_: so they could clone the dinosaurs that killed everyone.
chestersmoke
chestersmoke
30 May 23:26 #
First of all, I agree, it was poorly thought out. But, in fairness, the option with a disappearing container is not much better, since its outer shell will always be in a state of quantum certainty due to the presence of an observer (in a broad sense). Apparently, they decided that such an option would be more contrary to their main idea.

Secondly, I still don't really like the fact that within the framework of a single dose of the drug, they continue to jump around the worlds. Of course, I understand that this is an artistic simplification in order to make the plot more dynamic. But when they first moved, I really liked the idea that they just needed to "turn off" their inner observer. And this implies at least a short-term, but still a shutdown before the transition "corridor" - "world" and vice versa.
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
31 May 03:11 #
@Raf8678: This is a convention of the series, don't worry about it)
a1396833
a1396833
29 May 23:45 #
How did the cube fill with water if it is infinite, and the area of the door is smaller than the section of the cube (corridor)? At most, they would just like to have water gushing in their faces.
tyrell
tyrell
PRO
30 May 01:20 #
@a1396833: at the moment when the door is open, the cube is finite, the corridor returns when the door is slammed
Paramelion
Paramelion
03 Jun 02:50 #
@tyrell: and provided that the drug works
777allusik777
777allusik777
30 May 02:31 #
Wow, what an interesting series they shot)
If you close your eyes to physics and just enjoy watching the series, then you can get high with each episode!
a001aarus
a001aarus
30 May 10:02 #
@777allusik777: I experienced similar feelings from watching Darkness, I want more and more 😅
McLom
McLom
05 Jun 22:58 #
@a001aarus: Darkness, yes, but this series is not exciting.
uaSolare
uaSolare
20 Jun 15:28 #
@a001aarus: and Separation also gave me such a feeling. I'm really looking forward to the second season
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
20 Jun 17:15 #
@uaSolare: all these series give a good load on the brain🫣
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
30 May 03:26 #
The family man clearly lacks brains in life and in practice.
- What are you planning to do?
- (stupid angry face).

Kamon, do you want to arrange a stabbing with your obviously more prepared and cynical alter ego in front of your family, so that your wife and son go crazy from this spectacle or what? Well, if you come somewhere, first make sure damn that the world is the same, make an observation, assess the enemy, take him by surprise and get rid of him, then go home (with a knife in the middle of the night).

But the series, of course, is a top. I hope he won't jump endlessly like in a quantum leap, but I don't really want to return home soon either, I'd like to see what else the multiverse has prepared.
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
31 May 01:16 #
@AtomicTroll: If I were him, I also wouldn't have the patience to waste time on observations, too many emotions. And of course he wouldn't have killed him with a knife, I think he wanted to scare him into confessing everything and explaining everything to everyone
DiKEY999
DiKEY999
30 May 05:58 #
I don't really understand Layton's motivation. He wants to give a lot of money to Jason just to walk around different worlds... for what? As I understand it, he does not want to stay in them.
Вася_Куролесов
Вася_Куролесов
30 May 12:11 #
@DiKEY999: He is bored, he has seen everything in his life, he has tried everything. He talks about it himself, saying that as a child he used cheat codes to play computer games, and then he got bored. In real life, in the same way, using influence, connections and money, but in another reality you will not get bored and cheat.
SmilePS
SmilePS
02 Jun 14:49 #
@Vasya_kurolesov: If he wants to get into a world where he is a homeless man without connections, then yes, it will probably be fun. Although I don't want a commoner to know the vagaries of the rich.
Пьяный_ёжик
Пьяный_ёжик
07 Jun 16:35 #
@SmilePS: With your idea to hand over the box to the color meter, I think you will not disappear in any reality!😃😉
It_is_different
It_is_different
30 May 11:40 #
"Evil Jason" (I will call the inventor of the cube that way) is a real guru of meditation, he knows how to set up brains and get into the right world almost at the click of his fingers. But "good Jason" does not need to think about his wife and son or write to find them. He needs to think or write about the evil Jason, because he has a wife and son in many worlds, but there was only one villain in his life. I think so, at least.
Вася_Куролесов
Вася_Куролесов
30 May 12:39 #
@It_is_different: "Evil Jason" is accepted, but the second one, I would call "Reckless Jason". Joke.
Voider
Voider
30 May 17:16 #
@It_is_different: Even in one of those worlds where he has already got to, there is his own Jason, who is in prison. Quite evil, I think...
by the way, it would be funny if this turned out to be his home world. It's just that the new Jason turned out to be so evil that Daniela sent him to jail :)
chestersmoke
chestersmoke
30 May 23:34 #
Another interesting thing is that there is practically no way to be sure that you have returned to the same world. It may really be him, or it may be infinitely similar :)
It seems to me that in the end any person who has seen this will turn into a paranoid person, believing that this is "not quite that" world.
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
31 May 01:45 #
@chestersmoke: well, if only a variant of the world where dad went out for bread))
Hidji
Hidji
31 May 18:13 #
@chestersmoke: and this has already been shown to us, but with a different sauce. "The beginning", only instead of worlds a dream😁
the_Priest
the_Priest
01 Jun 12:35 #
@chestersmoke: and if we take into account, judging by "several" Blairs, that an infinite (or rather infinite in half) number of Evil Jason roams in the multiverse, then you can be afraid of any rustle for the rest of your life))
Paramelion
Paramelion
03 Jun 02:55 #
@the_Priest: This is the biggest omission. In an infinite number of worlds, there are an infinite number of Jason walking around. And they should not intersect, since each entry creates new options, and they can only intersect with a variant from this world. And since they can get into a specific world according to the series, then there should be not 2 Jason in each world, but an infinite number of them, who also accidentally stumbled upon this world.
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
03 Jun 17:33 #
@Paramelion: the realization of this can also drive you crazy , as well as the realization of the size of the universe 😃
albinka_
albinka_
08 Jun 01:35 #
@chestersmoke: Well, yes) and then any manifestation of the Mandela effect would drive him crazy and make him doubt if he was in the right world)
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
31 May 01:20 #
@It_is_different: perhaps he studied this meditation for a whole year)
Пракоп
Пракоп
30 May 17:52 #
I have a question of inconsistency.
"You can only travel through adjacent worlds"
They are also:
A centuries-old forest with monsters in the fog, a sudden dead sun, and much more. This obviously does not happen for several years ...
Many times it is shown that the box is underground, you need to go down the stairs / elevator to the hangar. But, here he is right on the highway, on the shore of the lake, above the water and begins to sink deeply. After all, the vertical axis of the box is changeable, and this should bring down the superposition in fact
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
31 May 01:22 #
@Prakop: yes, these should be worlds where their versions exist or existed, and the forest is as strange as possible, as if there is no civilization at all
Voider
Voider
31 May 14:34 #
@Prakop: That episode where they jumped somewhere - in general, as if from another series, purely for special effects added. There was nothing contiguous in those worlds...
id972349034
id972349034
05 Oct 15:27 #
@Prakop: as far as I personally understood, " You can only travel through adjacent worlds" these are the words of one of the characters in the series, and it does not have to be the law of the device. This may be just a private experience of the character or a deliberate lie to someone from whom he wants to extract money.
dog_of_hate
dog_of_hate
30 May 18:02 #
when the characters laughed at the fact that they stole a car from a single mother, I somehow felt uneasy. the screenwriter has some problems with empathy periodically. Maybe the AI wrote it?
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
30 May 19:55 #
@dog_of_hate: They will leave her, find her later and return her
the_player
the_player
18 Jun 01:47 #
@dog_of_hate: поставьте себя на их место, прям реально поставьте. Представьте эмоциональное состояние их; подумайте, как у вас бы мозг пытался справиться с этим. Я думаю там дорожка до смеха не далёкая, если не истеричная, так попытка какая-то мозгом эндорфину хапнуть.
oldbk
oldbk
PRO
31 May 19:47 #
In my opinion, in order for the original Jason to return to his world, he must admit that he does not love his wife.
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
31 May 19:54 #
@oldbk: What makes you conclude that he doesn't love her?
Lighthouse012
Lighthouse012
01 Jun 00:43 #
I think this shit works like this) let's take as a basis what is known. Schrodinger's cat is in a box. Closing the box, the cat gets into a superposition. We open the box and get two universes. In the first, the cat in the box is dead, in the second, the cat in the box is alive. Let's go back to the series. The heroes sit in a box in the first world. They enter the superposition, enter the second world. This creates two worlds. In the second world, the hero came out of the box, the journey to the third world was never made. That is, to travel to another world, it is not necessary that a box be made there, the very fact of travel creates a box in the world in which the journey is made. At the same time, the box continues to remain in the first world even despite the successful journey to the world number two of the heroes. Since it is not the box that is moving, the box only creates a passage into the superposition.
JlieNe
JlieNe
PRO
01 Jun 07:31 #
@Lighthouse012: We started for health, finished for peace. You were close to understanding quantum uncertainty, but you fucked up in the end. The cube should be created wherever they can open the door. This is not a teleport, but a superposition. They are cats who put themselves in a box by themselves and eliminate the observer. The box itself does not disappear anywhere either for the cat or for the observers of the box, only the observers of the box change.
Lighthouse012
Lighthouse012
01 Jun 09:40 #
@JlieNe: if a cube has to be created everywhere, then why does it end up in the same place all the time? They move to dead worlds, which already casts doubt on the fact that a box was once created in this world. If it were created, the places would be different. The world of married gg did not originally contain a box and it turned out to be in the middle of an abandoned building. It still seems to me that it is the journey that creates the box in the world into which the journey is made. Although it creates the wrong word... Each journey divides the worlds into new variants. In the case of Schrodinger's experiment for two, where the cat is dead and alive and each has both a cat and a box. In our case, I divided the trip into completed and not completed. But there will be more divisions. For example, the frozen world. What is shown in the series is only one scenario. Somewhere there are universes where the woman froze, somewhere where the hero froze, somewhere where both froze, somewhere where they burned in the house trying to keep warm, somewhere they did not find a box, etc. And in all these universes there are both heroes and boxes. Although I repeat. No one created them. The frozen world speaks in favor of not yet being created. If there was always a box in this place, then why didn't it get snowed in? Boxes exist and don't exist at the same time😅 fucking physics😅
Tiinsa
Tiinsa
01 Jun 12:42 #
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Tiinsa
Tiinsa
01 Jun 12:43 #
@Lighthouse012: @Lighthouse012: Because the authors of the series do not know how to play quantum physics and do not understand superposition, they took the idea as a basis and *wavered.
JlieNe
JlieNe
PRO
01 Jun 13:12 #
@Lighthouse012: Well, this is an adaptation of quantum theory for cinema, it's like the third season of the Witcher, which was stupefied specifically for the target audience. Just look at it and think of it as an adaptation, not an accurate description of a quantum superposition, because to be more precise, a cube must exist in every universe into which a door from a cube can be opened, de facto.
20stars
20stars
06 Jun 16:39 #
@JlieNe: The quantum question then is how many cats and how many boxes were put in?
JlieNe
JlieNe
PRO
06 Jun 17:26 #
@20stars: The question of counting the number is not applicable to quantum theory
20stars
20stars
06 Jun 18:59 #
@JlieNe: I don't understand, do I need to count each separately created box in different worlds, or is there still one box?
JlieNe
JlieNe
PRO
07 Jun 09:07 #
@20stars: From the point of view of quantum theory, each universe has its own box, and exists independently of other boxes. Its appearance in each particular universe, regardless of the box in other universes, they are connected only by the technology of transition between universes. A box cannot appear out of nowhere and out of nothing, it must be created in every universe into which a door can be opened.

What follows is fantastic, but I do not know why I cannot observe a cat in a pot and in a box at the same time in different universes, if we take the cat as the starting point, and not its surroundings. Perhaps the quantum composition of the cat's environment must be identical so that we can observe it in the environment of a box in every universe, but it does not have to be exactly a box as a box.
albinka_
albinka_
08 Jun 01:49 #
@Lighthouse012: the cat in the box in superposition created 2 branches of the world: in one, a box was created in which he was placed and he died, in the other, everything before being placed in the cat in the box is identical: a box was also created, the cat was planted in it, but survived and then went to your cat business. And after that, these 2 worlds can go completely different ways.
Or do you assume that the superposition "nullifies" all the past, erases scientists. who created the box, and it may be that at the moment of the separation of the original world, the past was rewritten, and now in the world where the cat is eventually dead, the box never existed, and its possums are taken out of the hollow And not the scientists in the lab?

In this case, rather a feeling, we are probably just an infinity of already existing parallel universes (not created by the box), between which the box helps to move like a basic sci-fi teleporter from any movie about parallel worlds. But the creators decided to pull an owl on a globe and weave superposition, Schrodinger's cat and quantum entanglement here to make it look more scientific.
6o4ka
6o4ka
PRO
02 Jun 14:37 #
The claims against Jason, it seems, have already been outlined above. And this time I have more questions for Leighton (by the way, the namesake is also a dark-skinned GG from the TV series Through the Snow =))

Where did the highway come from and what kind of fantasy or fear is it? And if the second Jason seals the container, does it turn out that Leighton, having made a lot of money, then in case of something he will not be able to return to his world? Will that suit him?
Liza
Liza
03 Jun 00:25 #
So far, it looks like the main characters will soon be close to burnout due to endless attempts and forays into different worlds with different versions of their destinies, so you can really go crazy and get tired just

But it's interesting!
Paramelion
Paramelion
03 Jun 03:01 #
Hello to all the inconsistencies and problems of quantum physics in the series. I have only one question. And what happens if the door is open all the time in their home worlds...................
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
03 Jun 17:35 #
@Paramelion: let's see how the cube is sealed, maybe this will partially give the answer
Paramelion
Paramelion
06 Jun 05:07 #
@Some shit: so this is essentially sealing) Just open the door and that's it. There will be no superposition effect and no one will appear
albinka_
albinka_
08 Jun 01:52 #
@Paramelion: In theory, yes, if the door is open all the time, it's just a piece of iron in the middle of the hangar.
Cheryl
Cheryl
03 Jun 15:54 #
Jason is already experiencing Daniela's death in the second universe-isn't this a hint that he won't be able to save her in his reality either?
Colorian
Colorian
04 Jun 00:15 #
what a creepy episode, in a good way. all these worlds were constantly in suspense
ЧижикПыжик
ЧижикПыжик
06 Jun 00:10 #
I keep thinking why it was necessary to introduce, it seems, 2 episodes ago, 2 contradictory conditions at once:
— We opened the door twice and there is the same world. So it's always the same world outside the door.
— We thought about it and the world outside the door was formed.

And then GG tries to think about his world, although if the door was already fixed to the world, then there is no need to think, it already exists.

I don't see anything else but a large joint. Even though the author of the book is a screenwriter right there.
Hidji
Hidji
06 Jun 23:56 #
@Chizhikpyzhik: technically, after fixing, you can just go to another door. Maybe that's why they're so fucked up, otherwise I can't explain their need, one would be enough.
albinka_
albinka_
08 Jun 01:56 #
@Chizhikpyzhik: Your assumptions about the doors reminded me of the cool TV series The Lost Room.) There were also interesting moments with opening and closing the door in the room, and gg conducted experiments to understand how everything happens and how this room and door work)
puolga
puolga
06 Jun 22:50 #
A cool series. The series is getting deeper, more psychological. How much the same dude can be different. Oh, how he ruins the world of the good Jason. Manipulative and cold-minded, the scientist wanted to take a ready-made formula for happiness and simply annihilated it... Now you have to go all the way and destroy your wife as well ....
Gordey
Gordey
07 Jun 12:16 #
Yes, there is not much logic here.. But it's interesting to watch these movements
Oksana_Gol
Oksana_Gol
PRO
21 Jun 12:07 #
I can't wait for them to find their world. I'm tired of watching their wanderings in the worlds already. And I'm also waiting for Daniella to realize that this is not her husband. Somehow, the series has been stomping on the spot for several episodes. It's also funny that Jason-2 became such a travel guru - he just wanted to, he immediately found himself in the right world. But this couple still can't.
the_player
the_player
21 Jun 15:16 #
Я не понял, а как пчёлы-то последовали, в не-нулевом количестве-то? Убежала с ними и сразу открыла дверь? А пчёлы как без наркотика последовали за нею? Ну ладно, тут этих дыр дофига, но интересно, что никто не обратил внимания.
Redarmyman
Redarmyman
07 Aug 01:40 #
@the_player: above, we paid attention to the OS.
MeMori
MeMori
23 Jun 15:51 #
Sealing the container is strong!))
daria_schyokina
daria_schyokina
28 Jun 20:27 #
So I was not hooked on this series, it was too boring, for a series of one and a half actions, mostly solid conversations
DanilinArthur
DanilinArthur
28 Jul 00:50 #
Perhaps this has already been discussed, but no one in other worlds cares about a cube standing in the middle of a highway? Is no one trying to explore it, destroy it? Or does it appear only at the moment when Jason comes out of it?
troLoLo
troLoLo
01 Aug 00:08 #
It occurred to me that it would be unrealistic for Jason-1 to find his original world. The idea is this. If each action/decision/choice creates a fork of two new worlds, then his world at the moment where Jason-2 sent him to his world has long since disappeared.
Time does not stand still, a lot has happened since then. Even if we assume that only serious choices/actions create a fork of two new worlds, then many events have happened. The very first of them is a fight on the stairs during the kidnapping. Jason-1 failed to overcome the kidnapper - this is the world of A, which we see in the series. Or it could be possible to overcome him, knock him out and let's say kill him, just to be sure. It will be world B in this fork. In this world, Jason-1 remained in the family. These two worlds will have a difference only in this event, from which they will develop each according to their own scenario. We can say that both of these worlds are suitable for Jason-1 to return at this moment.
If we take world A (which we see in the series), then it was also divided into forks at least several times after the abduction as a result of important decisions /actions. For example, Layton could have told Jason 2 to go to hell instead of being seduced by the multiverse.
In general, time goes on and everything changes, the worlds branch out, but we are shown everything as if the multiverse froze in static at the time of the abduction in the first series. And Jason-2 rushed back to his base world for ampoules as if he had statically frozen at the moment of his departure for the very first time. Although, according to the multi-world logic, hundreds of forks have already been created there, and in order for him to get into his original version, he probably needs to go back to the past.
troLoLo
troLoLo
01 Aug 00:16 #
@troLoLo: Oh, and there was just a moment in the series when they saw the world with a different outcome relative to the action they had done. When they escaped from the lab, it was world 1. And then they saw an alternative outcome of this event - they could not escape - this is world 2 of this fork. And so each event (even if we take only the important ones, and not from the category "decided to go / not go for a beer) divides the world into 2 alternative branches and so on indefinitely. You can only get to your original position by traveling back in time. In general, this is about how it was in Stein's gate, that is, canceling decisions that generate a fork of worlds.
rstd_lmr
rstd_lmr
25 Aug 12:49 #
they pulled the cat by the balls for a long time. the beginning is littered. But then it started. I like the world of an engineer. I know people who love to sit under siege and keep on their own technical skills. It turns out that this is a common way of looking at the world. The world of super covid has also entered.
Сериальщик732
Сериальщик732
04 Sep 13:07 #
They killed Daniela again

It's really going to be like Kenny here.
vvitay
vvitay
09 Oct 18:07 #
So this is literally a draft of Lukyanenko
Devlinn
Devlinn
13 Nov 05:47 #
I didn't understand - they came out of the box onto some kind of highway. And it's like a normal box in the middle of the highway. And how long has she been there? Aren't people worried that some kind of box is standing there? It's like in the middle of the red square there will be such a box and? Won't they try to remove it, disassemble it, etc? I don 't even understand 🫣
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