s01e07 — In the Fires of Dead Stars

@Soldmit: After your answer, I also revised it. There were 4 of them... In the armory there was first a 2nd "kind" without an elastic band on his finger. But. The 3rd had an elastic band and... a rewound little finger. Our guy only had a rubber band when he was watching the evil one at home and when he opened the door.

@Prakop: Damn, what the hell??????? The drama turns into a farce!

@Prakop: ohokhokhushki-Hoho...I didn't expect such a turn...

@Prakop: this is a direct test of attentiveness from the creators 😁

@Prakop: There are only 3 of them. At first, there was a kind Jason in the armory with an elastic band on his finger. Then the new Jason came in with a bandage on his finger. And there's evil Jason with a ring on his finger. Carefully review the scene in the armory.

@alavitka: On the contrary! Let them spin the idea with the options of the physicist and his choice. An unplowed field with many event options and cliffhangers. A similar series with a Double with J. K. Simons was, it's a pity that it was closed. There is every chance to take the same idea and make it better

@uximo: The doppelganger is a gorgeous series, but there are only two worlds there and this is its harmony.

@Da6kaz: but everyone is looking for their own universe. But they can get into similar ones. I have already talked about this topic. Now there should be an infinite number of other guests who come to make sure whether this universe is theirs or not.

@Liza: I thought so too)

@Liza: It would be a super-unrealistic coincidence, of course, for the evil Jason and Amanda to dream up the same absolutely identical world.

@Liza: Upon their arrival and the view of the city, too, the first thought was: "What, just like that right there? And so it was possible???" But God, ugh, the writer, seemed to be merciful, Although the night view with the departure from it also added suspicion).

@albinka_: on the one hand, so. And on the other hand, Amanda and the good Jason somehow imagined the same world with wasps as the colleague of the evil Jason they met there.

@albinka_: they just decided not to draw another new world twice)) After all, no one will notice how with everything else, like the moments where the money comes from, etc.

@Liza: No, these are different worlds, for the world of the series it was too strange a coincidence that 2 different people with completely different motivations imagined the same world.

@Iamliam23: 2 versions of Jason could well have imagined the same world, on the contrary it would be very logical.

@except: And what is the logic?

@Iamliam23: The fact is that this is a superposition of the same person, and his versions think the same way. Like, for example, 2 good versions came to the same store with the same words.

@except: There is no such thing as a human superposition, you invented it yourself. These are people from parallel realities.
There is only a tunnel in the superposition and it reacts to any human thoughts, conscious and unconscious.
Now think about it, will people with completely opposite motivation have similar thoughts or different ones?)

@except: it would be logical to clarify that Amanda imagined the world of utopia for herself when opening the door). And it was her Jason asked about what she presented to get there))). So it was initially passed by.

@Iamliam23: If we are talking about the real world, then there is no such thing as a superposition of a non-quantum object. If we're talking about the series, then that's exactly what it's about - if they weren't in a superposition state, they would have to be inside some kind of box physically. It seems to me that two, in fact, clones will not just have similar thoughts in many situations, but identical ones, even to the point of getting into the same world from the infinite independently of each other. Just like the 2 good Jason somehow got into one.

@Hidji: So you compare the frames, with the exception of the radiance, the landscape one by one. Evil Jason said there that he dreamed of a good place. A kind person could also think of a good place at that moment.

@except: Do you seriously not understand??? It seems to have written in Russian that Amanda chose this world. Not Jason. This is exactly her choice.

@except: You've already been told that Amanda opened one of these similar worlds at all, so you're wrong.
Yes, even if it wasn't Amanda, but both worlds discovered 2 Jason - these are 2 DIFFERENT versions of the same person, they made different decisions in the course of their lives and became DIFFERENT people, it's obvious.
And now add here that they had DIFFERENT motivations in discovering the world. The tunnel reacts to the essence of a person, to essential experiences. How could 2 DIFFERENT versions of Jason, with DIFFERENT motivations, discover the same one from millions of worlds?

@except:
If you don't even take into account the fact that this "perfect world" was invented by Amanda, not Jason, then:
These Jacons are not identical clones - they are versions of the same person with different life experiences.
Even clones will not have exactly the same solutions in absolutely every situation, because human decisions are not fully programmed into dna, but are influenced by experience, environment, other people, mood and even the food that has entered the body - in short, a bunch of factors affect a person's choice (otherwise identical twins would live identical lives and think the same way, and Siamese twins would always say the same thing in chorus).
Well, exactly the same decisions can be made a couple of minutes earlier or later, and this already creates a parallel world in which the timing of decision-making affects the entire subsequent chain of events (remember the versions of Jason and Amanda, who decided to escape a few hours later and were killed).

@Iamliam23: You will be surprised when it turns out that they are not so DIFFERENT, although this is hinted at in more than one scene. And their motivation is not that different.
If indeed, in fact, the world was discovered exclusively by Amanda, then yes, it looks very strange, but we still don't know for sure how it works in the end.

@except: I can also make words into sentences, but will there be any explanations/examples?)
That we don't know how the tunnel really works? We know, everything is already clear.
They will not end up in the same world, because they are different worlds.

@Iamliam23: "You'll need to pick `cause he thinks exactly like me"

@except: The motivation is different!

@Iamliam23: They have the same motivation - they all want to be with Daniella

@except: This is also not the case. Evil Jason just has some kind of crisis and he decided to play the game of love and care. And good Jason can't live without it. and I'm ready to make sacrifices. And whether evil Jason is ready to make sacrifices for Daniela, we will soon find out, but I doubt he is more important to himself.

@Iamliam23: Evil Jason even invented travel between the multiverse in order to be with Daniella. In his world, he came to her before he left, and wanted to concrete the box, which might have solved his problems if Ryan hadn't had to be returned. Well, wow, I decided to play, he, in fact, put everything on it, in his world he had everything, including love and care, but not with Daniella.

@except: It doesn't matter, because portals with similar worlds were opened by different Persians.
Directed by
Robert B. Weide

@except: One of the evil Jason's killed Daniela ("Daniela was killed right in front of my eyes..the other Daniela"), well, you get it)
Loved him so much that he killed him?
His motivation is not love, but control, and when he realizes that he cannot control it, that it is more expensive for himself, he will merge.

@Iamliam23: Who said Jason killed Daniela? He was talking about Leighton's assistant.

@Flexeus: I mean, the dialogue between the two Jason's in a bar, where one of them says: Daniela was killed in front of my eyes. Who killed him? It depends on the world in which it happened. Since copies of the good Jason began to appear after the first hit into the tunnel, it is unlikely that she was killed before being hit, which means this Daniela is from another world, probably from the world of one of the evil Jason, where this good Jason accidentally drifted.

@Ell: Mexican jamshoots))

@AlexandrShvachka: It is not logical at all, why install a concrete wall if it can be destroyed with spit? From inside, there are literate Jacons, they will knock, hear that there is a void and destroy all this props.

@Iamliam23: More like Statham

@Tuliackbaev: I think it will be left for next season

@SpAwN_gUy: or in the last frames of the season they will be teased)

@SpAwN_gUy: I really hope Apple will limit itself to one season

@Iamliam23: So far, I like your attitude. Yes, I have already managed to review and understand that it is a mistake for translators to call brace on the little finger an elastic band. I should have looked closely, not trusted them)

@Amelya: and the cube in every world does not interest anyone at all. This is strange.

Maybe he appears only at the moment when he is seen by someone who knows about his existence? Unclear

@krook: Have you never been a teenager? :D any sudden thing that appears in the middle of the field will cause terrible interest and a desire to get there urgently)

@albinka_: Well, you got in there, and what? We sat for three minutes and got out graying. You can't get into a superposition without a drag.

@Voider: and that's another question) it's just that a commentator asked if anyone sees these cubes, and another said that no one cares about it)
But I think that an unknown cube in the middle of the field would still raise questions)
And so, from this cube it would be possible to arrange a "stack" :D to drag bag chairs there) or use it as a barn in the field) well, the main thing is that the homeless don't dig in there)

@krook: there in one of the worlds it stands in the middle of the highway, so it is difficult not to notice

And before that, in other worlds, a hotel, food?

@Hidji: and surrounding poor Daniela! 😂

I think he will meet Ryan and he will want to come back, but I will go in the second season

@nktz: There are an infinite number of them now) can create an interdimensional "Jason Council" by analogy with "Rick and Morty" :D

@albinka_: or a chat

@nktz: it is clear that in theory there are many of them, after each decision is made or not, but it is on the screen that only 2 of them are shown?

@sunshine_lika: Two in the store. Maybe even a third person was looking out the window from the street, but that's not for sure)

Oh, the haircut should be just space))))))

@AlexBest115: I do not think so. We were shown the evening, and there were no northern lights over Chicago.

@alavitka: The northern Lights don't happen every evening

@SmilePS: I'm just translating it. Amanda has a very good credit in the original. This may turn out to be a credit limit due to a good credit rating, but not savings in any case, however, such a word can also be applied to a social rating if it replaces money. My translation is exactly "rating" (and it is credit or social xs). There is nothing more about her welfare. It's just that damn Jason took sweets for free then, didn't he? What the hell is the store then? This is a purely capitalist whim. In this sense, the Star Trek with its replicators is more realistic, and it's not a fact that they will be sophisticated with restaurants either, it's all for the sake of money, basically. Well, the cook can still do this kind of self-realization, but the waiter... I doubt it very much! Except for the sake of the same social rating for youth, to be busy with something if there are no other talents. In general, communism must be thought through. But this issue was simply sidestepped, without specifying. And only Seattle is in Cascadia, and Chicago is not a fact, it seems that it is not. And in general, then why countries, if it's all one? I called the region just in case, because country is a polysemous word in English.

La, you scared me, ala, what's the new series, why didn't they give it to me for translation? But it's kind of a mini. Maybe our guys haven't taken it yet, or they've slipped it to the cartoon translator. I only do serials by NAME, starting with the Mandalorian, although the franchise is not my favorite, but I know it. It's just that I probably wouldn't have bothered to watch either if it wasn't for work.

@alavitka: well, mini is not a fact, the same as "Ahsoka", and even with such low-end ratings, they can be extended due to millions of views. They didn't give it - rejoice, he claims to be the worst in the franchise in the first three episodes. Everything is much better here in every sense.

@alavitka: Are you only doing translation or voice acting too?

@Hidji: Ну, миники это обычно на пару дней работы. Не то что Дискавери с его кучей бессмысленной болтовни на 50+ минут каждую серию за 1,5 суток сделать... В этом отношении данный сериал хотя бы немногословен на свой хронометраж, не тараторят, не тяжело делать.

@КакойтоХрен: Только перевод, разумеется. Озвучивают по моему тексту (после редактора) профессиональные актёры, всё как положено, разве что не дубляж, а войсовер. Дубляж за день-два не сделаешь по-хорошему, чтобы в губы попадать.

@alavitka: oh cool, and what studios do you work with, if it's not a secret?)

@КакойтоХрен: Студия одна в последнее время. К сожалению, секрет, т.к. всё это неофициальная, скажем так, деятельность.

@Vilgelmster: there is a version (although I don't believe it) that the author relied on the same observer effect. One of its variations has already been mentioned here. When people don't see something they've never seen before. From my point of view, it is an extremely shaky theory, but it has definitely already been mentioned in the series, but I do not remember the circumstances. Based on it, the cube can be considered visible only to those who used it or whose attention was drawn to it by another user. Really, it's sooo doubtful, but on fishlessness, some people agree with this😅

@Vilgelmster: Просто если всё бесплатно, а тем более если платно, я бы ожидала в лучшем ресторане города очередь на столики за пару месяцев, которые невозможно освободить по знакомству =))

@Hidji: Ну в принципе валидно КМК. Собсна даже если видят - ну стоит железяка, и что теперь? Мусора конечно могли бы поинтересоваться, когда вот на дороге прямо стояла, но хз... Тут видно пожертвовали логикой "ради красного словца" (т.е. впечатляющей абсурдностью картинки). Также может быть, что куб проявляется только в тот момент, когда кто-то выходит из него в этот мир. Вроде бы с суперпозицией это согласуется, насколько я её понимаю. А реакции властей никто не стал дожидаться даже там, где она должна быть (исключая первые апокалиптические миры).

@alavitka: I just can't come to terms with the principle itself. That a person does not see something that is not a natural and familiar element of the landscape for him). And so yes, a digestible concept. And I also agree that the cube appears only when someone opens it from the inside and stays in this world until it leaves. In other cases, its presence is unjustified based on some point in quantum physics, I don't remember which one, because I read about it back in the days of Sliding

@Hidji: Вообще-то не видеть то, что не является знакомым элементом пейзажа - на каждом шагу происходит. У меня бывало, что я смену магазина за углом замечала месяца через два =)) Разумеется, в который не ходила, а просто мимо но каждый день.

@alavitka: well, it's easy to miss a store change, because the building itself and the urban landscape remain familiar, the brain ignores unnecessary signs, banners, etc.)
but if instead of a store there would one day be a huge black thing of incomprehensible purpose, they would certainly pay attention)

@albinka_: Не факт. Для этого надо смотреть по сторонам. А люди на знакомом маршруте не всегда смотрят. Да и была она в основном либо за городом, либо в подвале. А за городом если я гуляю - ну мало ли, что-то кто-то поставил, наверное ему надо или имеет право. Возмутилась бы только если на моей земле возникла. Меня по-настоящему смутила только обочина эстакады.

@AtomicTroll: Хороший у вас словарь на Т9! =))))))

@Some shit: what's wrong with his little finger? In which episode did he appear?

@AndreyChernyaev: this is the new Jason, which is shown to us for the first time, so we made such a difference and the saleswoman pointed out that our Jason had an elastic band on his finger so that we would pay attention to the details

@albinka_: does it turn out to be the second (third) "kind?" Has anyone seen Jason yet?

@AndreyChernyaev: yes, we don't know his story yet)

@albinka_: Ну ясно, что живую дочь ради сына просто так под нож не пустят. Подросток просто гипертрофирует. Насколько я понимаю, донор сердца - это только brain-dead овощ по воле родичей. Т.е. никем бы она не стала, как п-страдал Макс.

@the_player: it is very interesting how this utopia (and many other worlds) were able to develop so much in ~ 50 years since Jason was born (he also said that there is access only to those worlds where they were born)

Well, it's possible that he just learned Zen) and it certainly won't be cool. Of course, I would like to show in more detail his arrival in a super position and his actions, which eventually led him to the fact that he can travel so easily. Yes, there are an infinite number of Jason's, both bad and good, here in fact you can turn everything around so that your head will flare up)

@MII: This is how it is shown just by the example of the good Jason, how he is getting better and better. It's a skill like playing the guitar.

Difficult

@alavitka: Even more so! A normal physicist from the world without such technology would probably give his hand just to look at the principle of operation and the reactor itself in operation, but this one does not even pay attention))). The teacher as he is, no more😆 But that's just me, passing by😊

@Hidji: Ну так-то да, что стоило за детишками на экскурсию увязаться, всё равно болтался без дела пару часов.

@What the fuck: Are you sure? How can one particular reality repeat itself so that all the good Jason's find their own? it seems logical to me that the reality of x, from which gg was taken, did not change or split, while the Jacons in the cube made different decisions, being all from the reality of x
, I'm more about what turns out to be the reality of x of all the good Jacons from the cube turns out to be their only home and only one good Jason will be able to return his wife

@Hentai__Queen: it is not known how this will be played out in a scenario, but theoretically, any reality will multiply infinitely as soon as the Jaysons make various decisions, of course, the brain may burst from realizing this and they will hardly show us this. As we have seen before, some physical laws have been neglected in favor of cinematography and script, so there are many more surprises waiting for us 😁

@Hentai__Queen: in any case, even if, according to the laws of this series (and in your opinion), the universes do not constantly parallel into many infinite ones (as in the theory of multiverse), but are created only by superposition, a cube and people who know about it:
evil Jason - after all, tooa cube traveler, he faced different choices in the reality of good Jason, made different decisions and even climbed into the box a bunch of times while in this world, so he also multiplied this reality X by a bunch of others close to X".

As for the bunch of Jason's who came to this world - well, it can be, especially considering the possible infinite number of universes. Imagine a whole field of cups standing next to each other, and throw a few kilos of rice in their direction, in any case there will be a bunch of cups that will get a lot of rice at once, and there will be a lot of those where only 1-2 rice got, and some may not get at all. This is probability theory and they just show us a cup with a bunch of rice, because it's funnier and more interesting :D

@Hentai__Queen: You're thinking right. All the decisions after the abduction gave rise to new Jason, who are looking for the same reality at number 1. And in theory, this has only been shown for the third time, but there must be a lot of them

@Some shit: And for that you will need to remove the local Jason and still be just a substitute. Maybe one of the many Jason's will do that.

@LuM_E: so we need to look for a world where Jason donated his heart to Max, and Daniela didn't get drunk after that

@g1486880: What for? He wanted to get back into his life, whatever it was. That's probably why everything worked out - the hero remained himself, did not chase after ideas and images where he could be happy. Together with his family, he has a chance to change his life in a new world. He alone would not have created the ideal conditions for his supposed happiness-something would have gone wrong anyway.