Guys, we need an explanatory team from theoretical physicists. Why are new Jacons being created, but a new parallel universe is not? Why did they all end up in the universe with our Jason?
And if it is really true from a scientific point of view that all these "good" Jason's have a common universe, then our Jason is not truly real. They turn out to be all original.
@LokofanKate: Parallel universes are being created, and all these Jacons are in them. Then these Jacons enter this universe through a cube and think +- the same way. It's like playing chess with yourself.
But then why don't these Jacons get into their own universes, but focus specifically on our Jason's universe? If they think the same way, then they must get into their own, as well as "our" Jason. And we seem to have at least 15-20 Jason walking in this universe.
@nktz: The Jacons are ours, but they are from their own realities. Hence the question - why do they all stick to this reality, and not to their own? As I have already written, this is probably because they have no or almost no ampoules left, and this reality is as similar as possible to their reality.
@Iamliam23: This reality may be identical to the one they left, and in fact it may be for all these Jason's own, and it may even be the same evil Jason who kidnapped them. It's just that during their absence, a bunch of Jason's and a bunch of THEIR realities with THEIR evil Jason have multiplied, because the fragmentation happened after their abduction. That's why they stay in it, because it really is theirs. But also the reality in which the Evil Jason did not take Ryan away, did not leave the university, did not take a lot of money from a friend, does not go to a psychologist Amanda (i.e. makes other decisions) - in theory, any of these realities would also be for the good Jason "native", i.e.K. here it is no longer possible to understand which reality is right for him, because he is not aware of the correct course of events.
There are probably realities that the Jacons didn't get into at all, and those in which there are only 1-2 of them. But we are shown exactly one of the most reckless versions of what is happening with a large number of arrivals) _________________ By the way, it is possible that so many characters got into this reality, because they imagined a world in which Daniella suspects something, and worlds where Daniella did not follow and did not find out about the warehouse and generally lives and rejoices at what a cool husband she has become - in these The Good Jason didn't get into the worlds, because it's terrible for them to think that their wife didn't see or understand anything.
@Paramelion: yes, but then you yourself confirm my idea, because "corrections for random events" different Jason could allow slightly different when opening the door, because they already have slightly different experiences and thinking. Otherwise, all the good Jacons would have escaped from the lab clearly at the same time, Amanda would not have died in other worlds, and they would have arrived in this one exactly at the same time if they thought absolutely identically. I.e. there are many other variations of the right world, in which they are slightly different "amendments"that occurred after the abduction.
That's why I think that so many Jason's came running into this reality, because it was in this reality that Daniella suspected something was wrong and began to distrust her husband, keep an eye on him, etc., because "our Jason" thinks about his wife in the depths of himself (makes an amendment) that she would have noticed the changes in her husband and would have done something.
But there could have been Jacons who would not have made such an amendment for the future, and would have arrived in a world where Daniella does not suspect anything at all and rejoices at the fresh breath in her relationship with her husband. They just don't show it to us) neither did they show the fate of Amanda, who was with another Jason and disappeared somewhere in a dark world.
@albinka_: It doesn't matter when the fragmentation occurred, it's a matter of gaze or attitude. It is important that they are all from different realities, in which the Jason's life was completely identical before the abduction, and after it variations began. For each of the Jason's, their reality is correct, but they all turned out and want to stay in this one, because they do not have ampoules and this reality is 1 in 1 similar to theirs before the abduction.
@Iamliam23: I'm saying the same thing. That for all the Jason's after the abduction, this world seems to be the original one, because it is identical to the one from which they were abducted. But at the same time, there may be many different worlds that are identical before the point of abduction and differ only in events after the point of abduction, but the Jacen don't give a fuck about it, because they don't know what happened after their abduction.
And the fact that they had no ampoules left - even if they had, it would not have changed their attempts to stay in this world, because all these Jason's have already entered a world that they consider their own, because in their opinion it does not differ from that world, from which every single Good Jason was kicked out by the evil Jason.
@albinka_: it does not seem to be primordial, this world is the one true one for all the kidnapped Jason because they are all from this one reality. The Jacons began to split up already in the tunnel. This is explicitly stated in the series, how do you watch it at all?
@albinka_: in the scene in the bar when the two Jason talked, it is also clearly stated that they were all one person a month ago, but every decision made in the tunnel split their own reality and created copies of Jason. Someone was captured, someone died, someone was lost, but some were able to return to their original reality. Their reality is the same and evil Jason is alone in it, and there were many good ones while they were wandering in the tunnel and looking for their reality
@rois: You don't have to be in the cube corridor. He could just scratch/not scratch his nose and thus create a new universe. You can do this indefinitely. It's the same accident/decision he made a long time ago, he decided to be or not to be with Daniella.
@rois: How do you look at it? If there is only one original reality and splitting of people takes place only in the tunnel, then why is there not a bunch of evil Jason's in this single ideal reality, who split while looking for this ideal world? Or do you think only the good guys bud off? We saw that Jason was opening the door to a world in which he and Amanda were killed because they ran away 2 hours later. And it was an absolute analogue of the world from which our Jason and Amanda escaped, just with slightly different conditions and consequences. Or do you want to say that it was the same world in which the slow-witted Jason and Amanda materialized two hours later to be killed?
And then how do you think the cube works? Does C 0" create reality out of imagination, or does it just open the door to a world that a person in a superposition imagined (from an infinite variety of possible worlds)? In your opinion, the evil gg then just "invented" the world with Daniela and family, or did he, knowing that there were an infinite number of worlds, understand that there was a world somewhere where he (the other he) made a different choice, and represented it to move?
@albinka_: you are mixing different circumstances and conditions into one illogical mess. The fact that there may be an infinite number of similar worlds with evil Jason does not mean that the world that is shown to us is exactly the one that was at the beginning of the series
@rois: Yes, you yourself write 'their reality is the same', and I'm talking about the fact that after the abduction, there could be a bunch of world splits that Jason does not know about, so any of these worlds are identical before the abduction, but different from the events that occurred after that.' He considers it his own.
And from what you say, it turns out that this is the only such world in which Jason can find a family again, which is why this world is so valuable and all the Jacons come to it.
I do not know yet what the creators showed in the last episode, but it would be at least strange, given all that has happened, to say that this world is so unique and unique.
This would mean that there are not endless parallel realities and millions of possibilities here, but some kind of finite set of variations created by the "open doors" and now you can go around all kinds of worlds like different carousels in an amusement park.
@albinka_: I haven't watched the last episode yet either, but the point of what I wrote about is that from a narrative point of view, we have the original world and Jason, which splits, while there is a conditional true one, which we, as viewers, observe and the rest, which are needed only for the development of the story of the true Jason. And it is not profitable for the narrative to show some other parallel world, with a parallel wife and son. Is it clearer this way? It wouldn't make sense and we, as viewers, can't empathize with some kind of wife and son, just like we don't empathize with the parallel Jason. I'm surprised that such simple things need to be chewed up.
If in the end they don't show that this world is somehow different, like here's a twist for you, then why make these strange assumptions about endless worlds?
@rois: because the series claims to be science fiction and it is absolutely normal to make science fiction assumptions in this case. Otherwise, why are any laws of this world and travel in cuba being introduced at all? Naturally, there is an artistic component, a narrative, a main character, etc., but some people make a big discount on the fact that these are the conventions of narration and the path of the hero when the series itself set what- that's the initial conditions. And turning a blind eye to plot blunders simply because it was easier for the scriptwriters or clearer for the audience.
If something is not shown in the work, it does not mean that nothing beyond what is shown does not exist and it is impossible to make assumptions. Otherwise, we would never have had films and books with an open ending.
@LokofanKate: for example, because parallel universes may not be created at all, Jason 2 never got into the same world several times, but simply into an infinitely similar and specifically this world is exactly the one that many Jason 2 Jason 1 offended got into.
And they don't have a common universe, they just imagined their own, and ended up in one of the infinitely similar ones.
@LokofanKate: Good question. Perhaps because this world is as similar as possible to their worlds, and they have no ampoules left, so they all linger in it.
@LokofanKate: You got it right. The original world is one, the separation started as soon as Jason was pushed out of his world. Therefore, then an endless number of Jason's are looking for this world and someone manages to do it. They were in the bar when they were sitting, and he said the same thing. That's why all the Jacons are really kind. The one who will be the first to declare himself to Daniele will be lucky, and we will find out what will happen to the rest already in episode 9.
@LokofanKate: All the good Jason's do not have one common universe, but each has its own from a certain stage. But it so happened that they got to ours, whose universe differs from theirs in some small way. In small things that cannot be noticed, and there are an infinite number of such kind Jason with their universes, respectively, and their probability of getting to ours is also huge
@mhrk: You're wrong. There are an infinite number of accidents, too. well, if we assume that chance is one in a billion, and there are infinitely many cases, then these billions are not 5, not 10, but also infinite. Therefore, they must enter this world non-stop. Or is it due not to accidents, but to something else that has not been explained to us. Well, there's a number of these doses that were. Let's say the idea with copies is a failure - it cannot be justified.
That's how it always happens in real life. Don't touch what works! Ryan Holder is missing, well, he's gone. No, for your own comfort, you had to swing a sledgehammer, drag another Ryan Holder into your world, and at the same time, the Jason hooch. No matter how much you run from them, no matter how much you kill them, you won't strangle them all, you won't kill them. 🙂😕 Just don't think that I'm for the evil Jason.I mean, sometimes "the best is the enemy of the good."
@apb48: The trick with Ryan the mechanic is generally past the cash register. He's going to describe and identify Jason anyway. It's kind of stupid. At first I thought that the villain wanted to fake Ryan's suicide and therefore brought a mechanic, but no.
@apb48: If Ryan hadn't shown up, the police would have continued to dig, tracked all the cameras and stuff, the detective told him so, and could have gone to the cube. And so it turns out Ryan just went crazy.
When two cars collided with two Jason's and they started running away from them, the camera should have moved further to the entire street and there would have been a crowd of Jason's that merge from the alleys:
in different clothes, some without an arm, some without a leg - everyone goes, crawls forward as they can and repeats: "Daniella! Daniella!" - and they pull their hands forward.
The invasion of the Jason zombies.
And all this was supposed to be the end of not the 8th episode of 9, but the third series of 12 or 20 episodes.
That's when the series would be really powerful and innovative)
@Gamlet: And then the evil Jason runs out with a machete and starts chopping down the good Jason's right and left, he's already killed two, it's a start.)
Even if we consider that in an infinite number of Jacons there is a possibility that many of them fall into the same world, it is still unclear why it was impossible to just leave the cube door open all the time so that the new Jacons did not penetrate into this particular world, but went into the other one is the same.. Although maybe this particular world is so ridiculous, and somewhere there is a reality in which evil Jason is fine and he didn't even have to break concrete.
And it's not obvious what the joke was to chase Jason in a crowded place in the middle of the university? to do what?) This way, this world will be full of dead Jason. To be honest, I don't quite understand how to empathize with them at all, they are fucked up and they are in fact equal.
By the way, it would be funny if "evil Jason" had already been overwhelmed by one of the versions of "good", and when Danielle called, he would have known that there was no pink house. That would be an embarrassment)
Well, in general, evil Jason should have immediately gone to the cube at the first encounter, come up with a new cool world for himself and get the fuck out of it, let the good ones sort it out among themselves. He's got everything going on with Daniella anyway. And the family, in theory, is already dangerous in this world, and it is necessary to go somewhere to another utopia.
@albinka_: In fact, this is the biggest scenario mistake. Even after the evil Jason brought someone else's ryan back here, he would hardly have closed the door, it's just corny illogical, since there is no brickwork. And with the door open, no one could get into this universe. Therefore, we eat what they give us) Or the screenwriters assume that while no one sees, the door is both open and closed at the same time. But these are already too big assumptions.
@albinka_: Maybe closed (concreted), but not open? They definitely wouldn't have gone through concrete. If there are an infinite number of realities, then this world with the Jason invasion is not the only one.
@Iamliam23: Concrete can be broken. But if you leave the door open from the outside, it means that you deprive the cube of the opportunity to be in superposition in this world, because there in one of the first episodes it was said that the cube must be closed in order for everything to work. Well, it will be impossible to imagine this world and open the door to it if it is already open. Openness would be just a protection, and only those who are already in this world could use the cube, and can enter it and close the door behind them.
This, of course, if we assume that the structures work exactly like portals, and if the cube already exists in this world, then it has not been changed.
But it may also be that the cube that is already in this world does not really affect anything for cubes from other worlds. And the cube from which the character "travels" - can "materialize" in place of the existing cube, replacing it according to the order ", and then at the same time at this point there will be a closed and open door, and the hero from the inside in in any case, he will be able to open it and get into this world.
However, nothing prevented evil Jason from conducting an experiment and trying to protect himself in this way, only if he did not know for sure that it would not work. But this was not explained in any way.
@albinka_: And it seems to me that it doesn't matter what state the cube is in in the finite world, it's not the door of the cube that opens, but the door in the portal of superpositions. If the cube is destroyed, it will reappear if someone in the portal introduces this world. It's the same as with pages on the Internet - if you close it and make a new request, it will open again, regardless of what happened to the old one. But the concrete around the cube could prevent an unexpected guest from entering this world, he would just see a wall of concrete and would not be able to understand anything.
@Iamliam23: Well, then I wonder if you hang a loop and a huge barn lock on the door of the cube, then it will open anyway, and the lock will disappear because the new cube will replace the old one? or will it open, but the projection of the cube with the lock will remain, and after closing the door it will return to its place? Or will it still be impossible to get into this world, but it will be possible to get into an almost identical one, but in which the lock was not hung on the cube?
If I were evil Jason, I would experiment, of course. And then he seemed to have invented this device and then gave a fuck to him, like "well, somehow it works ". You could spray-paint some kind of mark on the cube, drive back and forth, exit the cube and see if he returned to the world where the cube with the mark, or the mark disappeared: 1) because it's still a different world 2) because the cube was updated after use
@albinka_: Curiosity is not a vice) It's probably worth reading the book, maybe these points are revealed in more detail there. In my opinion, it doesn't matter what happens to the cube door, it doesn't open, but the door in the superposition portal. Only if you build a barrier around the cube, it can prevent you from exiting the portal.
@albinka_: and how do I check if the cube itself has been updated or is it already another world? In fact, we can't even be sure that every time the evil Jason left his world, he returned back to it, and not to a very, very similar one, from which another evil Jason just came out in the same way.
In general, it is strange that other "good" Jason are shown to be so radically different from the very first Jason. If their realities were separated just a couple of days or weeks ago, then they should all +/- think and make decisions the same way, and their character is almost the same in idea. But we are shown Jason in a bar prone to aggression, Jason in the library too naive and ill-conceived, Jason in the car so without empathy telling his wife the whole truth. In short, they do not look like Jason the first, only in appearance and purpose, so it looks like an invasion of mindless zombies. Plus, the wife, who considers all those Jason (not to mention the evil one) enemies, looks strange. Although, in fact, she cannot be sure which of them is really her husband. Like, whoever contacted her first will be her husband. And on this episode, the series is already perceived as too fake and not real. Although in the beginning the series looked like science fiction.
If so, then he is generally strange there - he was limping and burned, it looks more like he got into strong radiation somewhere or something similar - he suffered powerfully and therefore just silently pursues, hobbling, the one he saw similar, thoughtlessly and with a strange expression on his face.
I think it's hard to overestimate the changing power of the experience that each of the Jason's went through. Since there are an infinite number of variations from the moment of abduction, their distribution in the original universe must be Gaussian (bell). So, for the most part, they should be very similar, yes. But the number of "radical" Jacons is also, strictly speaking, infinite.
@id16138560: Well, by the way, everything is psychologically quite complicated. For it is not the years that change a person, but the experiences. Ours has experienced so much in a month that it will be a lot for others for a lifetime. He had to literally make a choice between life and death almost every time he opened the door. One such situation can already irreversibly change a person, and a whole series can even more so.
Daniela's choice is also psychologically brilliant, if I didn't find the authors too smart. I'll write about it below.
@id16138560: Does the show say that some decisions divide Jason? Why can't there be infinitely many Jason 2s, and these Jason 1s just end up in one of their infinitely similar realities?
In my opinion, this is just a version of reality that a certain number of Jason 1 got into. At the same time, there are an infinite number of realities where Jason 2 has no problems with Jason 1 at all, because they never get there.
@DmitryYakushev: In general, of course, you can dream up anything, any version of what is happening. But this is a narrative, and any narrative revolves around a certain story. The story here is that Jason 2 created a cube and traveled through reality and found the world of Jason-1, not the other way around. That's what you need to dance from.
@id16138560: as for the experience they have already said (one of the Jason's lost Amanda), someone could just have a bad meal that day and be angry, and so on. But in general, it's more likely just a basic scenario move so that the audience continues to perceive our Jason as adequate, and others as some kind of side stupid Jason.34;))
Here! I read the comments to find a person who has the same question))) after all, it turns out that she believed that version of the good Jason, who was just the first to tell her about the cube and the bad Jason, and there are no guarantees that he is her Jason. After all, there is a possibility that one of the copies of the good Jason also wears a beige elastic band))
@Kroshkaenot: I believed it and in the end I doubted very much. There have been at least two Jason's with an elastic band and dressed the same, we were shown this in the scene with the accident. The driver had the same rubber band and was also dressed as Jupiter Jason
@Tiny: I think the observer effect works here. Since we are watching this Jason, he is a constant for us and he is our GG...We were led with this option up to the code word, and then we switched to the perspective of the wife, where she already has to search and interact with her Jupiter. Moreover, there are 2 plot developments here: a happy ending - he met and convinced his wife first, a drama - he did not have time and he had to let his wife go.
Has "our" Jason become the main character in the story because he has hardly changed since the day of the abduction? Others who have returned to the right world differ in the degree of malice towards Jason-2, the desire to take revenge on him, as well as the attitude towards other Jason-1 – kill everyone or coexist peacefully?
@Flanker: Still yes kmk, see below. He saved himself. The rest began to have mental deformation, when a person is ready to go to extremes for the sake of a goal. And this one continued to use his mind, not violence (although we see that such a thought was already in this world, but apparently he was stopped by the fact that one of his copies had already managed to get in front of him, and, guessing what was happening, he reflected on how this could end).
@Flanker: They are all ours, and in fact you can empathize with anyone, but since we were shown through the series with this, we sympathize with him. But the audience in parallel realities, where the screenwriters showed other Jason sympathize with them :-)
@Flanker: He's in charge simply because we're watching him. If we had followed the one who lost Amanda in the woods and seen him go crazy, he would have been our GG.
At the beginning of the series, I expected a complete thrash, because the anticipated farce included not 3 but a lot of Jason. And that they are all from this world? It promised a full paragraph, because the problem is ethically unsolvable!
And thrash was still developing. Evil Jay probably killed for the first time. So also yourself? After that, in fact, the roof will leak with a high probability. Plus the evidence. Well, judge for yourself, where did the Evil JAY go, leaving a copy of himself in the toilet? And in the Honda, it also looks like his corpse was left in the trunk =)) Considering that all this is at the same police station, this is already a complete fiasco. From a documentary point of view, you can't get away. You'll sweep it under the rug.
But when Daniela chose "our" Jason (who is wearing a suit that Amanda bought in utopia), I mentally applauded. All the way, I wondered what she would do. After all, her choice was the only way to cut this Gordian knot. There were a lot of options to psychologically screw up the logic of her behavior. I couldn't even imagine a way out. And she chose exactly the one who really chose the course of action that she could expect from someone she had known all her life! Well, that's if I didn't attribute too much intelligence to the screenwriters. But that's exactly what it looked like to me, and if I'm not mistaken, I think they'll say it in the finale. It's just that the others looked a little obsessed, i.e. they went a little cuckoo already from the trials...
@alavitka: By the way, the cultural way to get rid of a bunch of Jason's is to use those ampoules that Daniela found in the warehouse. It should just be +/- enough. And to return the Ryans to their places, too, given -2 corpses. However, with a guarantee, this requires the participation of a villain. Only he could return to the right world with proven accuracy, and only he knew exactly where he left "our" Ryan and picked up the mechanic.
@alavitka: the problem is that there will be an infinite number of them arriving...and this reality is the reality of them all. They just went to this reality in different ways. Spoil J-he is a scientist 1 and the reality where he replaced himself with our GG is also the same.
@dandanych: they should each have their own reality, just as similar as possible to the reality of the other "kidnapped" Jason. Because these Jason cannot appear out of nowhere. Everyone was born in their world only once.
@DmitryYakushev: Yes, there were Jason's in the same clothes, but at that moment we already knew that "our" Jason was waiting under the Bean. And he wouldn't ram a car with his child and wife!
@alavitka: That's the joke, that we know which one of them is ours. Suddenly, it wasn't our guy who got to Daniela first, and another guy was smoking in the cafe, too, this is a real mystery. Now not only does she doubt if this is the true Jason, but we were also forced to think about it🫣
@Some shit: I also allowed an option where one of the good ones got to the evil one and killed him. And then the next one got to him and also crashed, naturally mistaking him for an evil one. And in a new way, and so on ad infinitum, Who knows when the chain will be broken and how many of Jason's corpses are scattered across different worlds and places... It's also an option).
@КакойтоХрен: Я не сомневаюсь. Потому что это распустит сюжет. Впрочем. такого можно ожидать, но я вангую на конец. Например, когда уже всё покажется благополучно, он ляпнет что-то, что мы знаем, было не так. Но с сорок пятой стороны, это кмк проигрышный ход для сценария. Если я всю дорогу сопереживала одному герою, а в конце мне сказали - ты уже давно его потеряла и хер знает кому сопереживаешь... Я бы мысленно плюнула в лицо сценаристам и не стала никому рекомендовать этот сериал, как бессмысленный.
Yes, I turned out to be right, there are not 3 of them. And by the way, it is quite logical why we did not think of such an option earlier, because it was right on the surface... Daniela chose our true one, as if a little luck, but since he did not pursue himself, but followed a different tactic, then thoughts/ideas are built from another. I would say that another 10 minutes as they go to another city / country and the credits roll, the end of the season. What they will show us is a mystery. There's only a week left, we'll wait)
@Prakop: I think it's wise to get rid of all the extra Jason. That's what they're going to show us. The ampoules are in the stash. It remains to persuade the villain to return all the Ryans to their places, and the rest to break off and choose other worlds =))
@alavitka: Although I am not a scientist, I have a rational mindset, and from the beginning I think rationally then emotionally. So this idea is the right one. To gather all the good copies, and all together to wipe out the bad. And then build some kind of nito machine that will determine who is from which universe. But our Jason's are too impulsive. These guys are 40 years old, and they behave like teenagers.
@Prakop: and who said that ours is exactly the true one? It's just that the narration is conducted on his behalf, but it's far from the fact that he is such). In such a plot structure, it is always worth allowing the possibility of a twist with another double).
@nagichev: it reminded me of the episode with the epidemic because of Morty, where they had to leave their reality, and the series where the screen was constantly divided, creating new realities)))
Praise Jupiter! Poor woman... I just imagined what she was going through, the guy had seen less, and hadn't really guessed before. But who, !'-+), Saved her?! So far, I'm only guided by the cut.
This is a series, I had goosebumps from the experience the whole episode!
I understand that indeed, while Jason was in the cube and wandering around the worlds, different versions of him were created, but for each of these Jason's, a world was not created with " his " Daniella and Max, it turns out they really have a common Wife, and there can be infinitely many Jason's and they can still to crawl to this world, as the ampoules are spent (after all, Amanda was gone at all stages) and the speed of thinking. And where to put them all is unclear, plus there are already two corpses that the police are about to find, and they are identified as Jason 1
The original Jason will have to organize some kind of shelter for them all, or send them to some worlds...
@Liza: They don't have a wife in common, all these Jason's from their own realities - in a bar at a Jason meeting, one of them said that Daniel in his reality was killed in front of his eyes. It's just that they had an identical life before their abductions, and after that it began to differ depending on which way they traveled to this reality. And since this reality is very similar to their reality, and they no longer have ampoules, they decided to settle here (they think the same way).
@Iamliam23: Jason said in the bar that Daniel was killed not from his universe (episode 2), and then he also ran away with Amanda. The separation that we are shown began either when he and Amanda got into the cube, or, in fact, it could have started immediately with the abduction, but the original world is the same. I think so.
@Prakop: Jason's copy says in the bar: "Daniel was killed right in front of my eyes..The Other Daniela" He means another one, that is, not this one, not from this world, but his Daniel from his world (because he has his own reality). It doesn't matter when the separation began, it's a matter of looking at this phenomenon. Everyone has their own original world, but they are identical until the moment of abduction, which is why the good Jacons are so similar.
@Iamliam23: There may be significantly fewer variants of realities with the evil Jason remaining in them than there are good Jason's that have bred in the box variation. It's just corny because of the fewer branching locations themselves. So it is quite natural that this reality will have a lot of "kind" Jason, for whom it is their own.
@Iamliam23: Нет, они все из одного этого мира, иначе нелогично драться за чужую Даниэлу, тогда они все злодеи. Убили Даниэлу из мира злоДжея на глазах тогда ещё одного доброго Джейсона. И "наш" говорит, что ещё месяц назад они все были одним человеком из одного этого мира, размножились они в ящике и все считают именно этот мир своим. В том-то и состоит моральная проблема. Иначе проблемы просто нет - каждый идёт в свой мир и всё. А убивать Даниэлу в целевом мире (где не было Велосити! в целевой мир целился злоДжей) вообще нелогично, она же и была его главной целью.
@alavitka: Yes, we are arguing about the wording, because it is possible to branch out in different ways. I've been doing this for convenience since Jason was born. It doesn't matter which Daniela was killed, you never know where this good Jason went, perhaps it was his Daniela who was killed, but history is silent about this. THAT'S NOT THE POINT. They all consider this world to be their own, because it is identical to their worlds until the moment of branching (abduction of good by evil). And yes, you can say it was one world - depending on where to spend your vision. But it DOESN'T MATTER, the idea is clear.
It really doesn't seem to make sense to kill Daniela in the target world, but she could have been killed by mistake, like someone was killed in one of the early episodes.
@alavitka: If you look at it this way, then evil Jason and good Jason were the same person before choosing family or work. Does evil Jason have a right to Danielle, since he was the same person? Probably not, because he did not make this choice and did not sacrifice his job. The fact that they were all one is no longer important, because now there are many of them with different experiences and injuries. Well, they can't go to their own world, because there are no ampoules, and it's still completely unclear which world is theirs, because all the branching of the worlds took place without their participation, and in fact every world after the point of abduction is their world is.
In general, not counting the problem of the scenario with the door of the Schrodinger cube (it is closed or open). We are now being shown that allegedly Daniella chose Jason, whom we followed the previous 7 episodes. But we will never know, any Jason could have thought of such a method, and Daniella chose the first one who opened her eyes. And in fact, our Jason could be the one who cut off the car with Dani and another kind Jason, or maybe this Jason was the one we were following. The main thing is that she found her own, and which version is not so important.
The only questions left are what other good Jason's should do when they see that Dani has already chosen one of the good versions, and how the world will react to these Jason's, as there are more and more of them (but this is another series already apparently).
@Paramelion: Apparently, Jason Jupiter is exactly the one we've been watching the entire series. After the conversation in the bar, they showed how he took matches, then in the cafe he used these matches to smoke, then he got to the police for smoking and then Daniela came to him. In the last couple of episodes, it has become noticeable that emphasis is being placed on the details by which the viewer will be able to accurately identify the right Jason. Another thing is that I personally feel sorry for the other Jason's, who remained as adequate as ours, but did not manage to become the first. After all, each of them is the "version after the abduction", so everyone deserves what our "34" aspired to. And he's ours only for us, the audience, because we've been watching him.
The tin is just crazy. It reminded me how a bunch of dead Hutchensons lay in the Man of the Future. I think the best option for the family is to evacuate the hell out of this world and start over. Maybe they will also find a universe with a dead living son, where he does not have a family and will live happily and merrily
They turned around abruptly. Although with this logic, there could be a lot of Jason-2s too. For example, when he went to get new ampoules, when he decided to leave Ryan in another world, or when he went to get drunk Ryan, new versions of Jason-2 could return to our world. In general, the family needs to get out of this mess into another world. But is there a 100% guarantee that no one will find them?
@nktz: In this scenario, other families will go to the world where they go anyway. It doesn't matter who opens the door. They will just go to 3 different worlds, according to the thoughts of the husband, according to the thoughts of the wife, according to the thoughts of the son.
It's funny that none of the characters say that they don't just get into other worlds, they create them by opening doors and in fact anyone who opened at least one of the doors to any post-apocalyptic world at least unknowingly arranged the end of the world, which means there are simply no good Jason, but the scariest thing is thatour", "good" Jason is also not real, a bunch of alternative Jason's are also from this world, and the wife and son are also their family, the only problem is that they exist at best as long as their son lives, at worst a month at most - One and a half.
Nothing is clear, but let's do more. There is not enough crowd of "evil" Jason. After all, he also did not immediately learn how to jump around the worlds and had to breed his own doppelgangers. It is necessary to gather all the Jason (evil and kind) at the edge of the forest, give each a kitchen knife and the winner will get a wife and son. The curtain!
@It_is_different: I got a scene from the movie War of the Worlds z where hordes of zombies climb over each other on a huge stage, and then the Jason will climb to Danielle🤣
I had a dream Jason Voris - Crazy dead Wearing a hockey mask. I'm f***ing Such dreams, I don't like Such fairy tales. With an axe Threatening me, He's following me. I've been chasing all night. Well, That I'm awake, Otherwise, it would be I shit myself.
Jason Voris! Jason Voris!
H.Z. 1995
It would be cool if the events in the series ended on Friday the 13th.)))
I can't wait another 6 days. I finished reading in the book what's next))) I was very drawn out by the series, I love the topic about parallel worlds. This series just clearly shows how choice affects life!
Do I understand the system of appearance of doubles correctly?
1) Jason enters the cube, makes an injection and gets into the corridor. 2) Opens the door and thereby creates a new universe in which there is exactly the same Jason as himself.
1) Jason enters the cube, makes an injection and gets into the corridor. 2) The cube is in superposition and while Jason is under the action of injection (also in superposition), he makes decisions in it - each one creates a new Jason.
That is, he made the decision to open the door inside - he opened it and went out. And inside there was Jason, who went on and opened another door.
@It_is_different: It's easier to say this: as soon as our Jason teacher is unconscious in the cube, his every further action, word, thought, etc. creates a new Jason teacher. Went to the right - 1 Jason, went to the left -2 Jason, went to the left took another step - 3 Jason, did not take a step - 4 Jason and so on exponentially to infinity
@It_is_different: any thought/action of his creates parallel worlds where he thought/did differently at that moment. If the doppelgangers were created only from his choices in the corridor (as some here believe), then there would never have been the evil Jason, who 15 years ago decided to do science, not family
@Flexeus: Yes, but we are not talking about them. Every thought/action creates worlds and Jacons. But all these Jacons live in their own worlds and do not try to move to another, much less to one specific one. But the evil Jason and those copies of Jason that formed in the corridor - they all want to return to one particular world. And here we are talking about these Jacons, and not about all possible options.
For me, what happens to Jason in this cube is such an allegory for an uncontrolled nuclear chain reaction, but not with particles, but with a person. That is, it divides and divides uncontrollably there, and branches and so on, like particles in a nuclear reaction.
The episode balances between some kind of existential horror and comedy. It would be funny if, when cars collided from all sides of the street, dozens of Jason started running to Danielle
I was waiting for a completely different development in history and I am glad that they were able to surprise me.
And I managed to cheer for " our" Jason and shout with laughter. But if you think about the situation, it is, of course, darkness and a living nightmare.
I honestly can't imagine how the screenwriters and the author of the book will unravel this situation. At least from a mathematical point of view, because there can be a hundred real husbands for one wife. We wrote above about the experience and the fact that only the original Jason retained his true self, but we don't know that, and in fact his only trump card is that he just managed to get to his wife first.
Our Jason, when he lost the ring, wrapped a thread around his finger so as not to forget his wife, and Jason, who hugs his son, at the end of the episode, has nothing on his finger...
@XX121: @iamanatoly: but we still don't know if our Jason got to Daniella first at the police station, because at least one more Jason was shown to us at the time of the accident, dressed in the same way and with the same elastic band on his finger
Can someone explain why the Jason-2s don't breed? After all, he also used the cube many times, and did not get into this world right away, so there must be more of the same
@iamanatoly: but we still don't know if our Jason got to Daniella first at the police station, because at the time of the accident, we were shown at least one more Jason dressed the same way and with the same elastic band on his finger
@KakoitoHren: Apparently, Jason Jupiter is exactly the one we've been watching the whole series. After the conversation in the bar, they showed how he took matches, then in the cafe he used these matches to smoke, then he got to the police for smoking and then Daniela came to him. In the last couple of episodes, it has become noticeable that emphasis is being placed on the details by which the viewer will be able to accurately identify the right Jason. Another thing is that I personally feel bad for the other Jason's, who remained as adequate as ours, but did not manage to become the first. After all, each of them is the "version after the abduction", so everyone deserves what our "34" aspired to. And he's ours only for us, the audience, because we've been watching him.
@iamanatoly: Evil-Jason the scientist is patient zero, his world is considered zero or mathematical World N, as he starts a chain of events, getting into the world of Jason the teacher, creating an Alpha world from him, where all Jason the teachers will strive. And everything else that happens will be in conjunction with the Zero world of N - the Alpha World. But there is an Evil-Jason-scientist who entered another world - the World of Beta, and therefore a new bundle and a new reality are being created, and since the zero-evil-jason-scientist made a different choice, his world at coordinate points will no longer be N, but N+1, and a different bundle is being created in within the worlds of N+1 is the World of Beta and there is already its own separate story and so on indefinitely.
No, we just know what exactly is ours, because the creators of the series made it so that our 34 had a wound on his nose, and all the other good ones with elastic bands had such a wound. There is no wound.
And he got this wound during the kidnapping, when he fell down the stairs and before entering the cube.
So all good Jason's should have it.
But it is only our 34 that has it, so that we can determine that it is the same one.
@Gamlet: And what about the nailed thumb on the left hand? In the scene at the bar, the nail is clean, then in the cafe it is nailed, in the scene with the accident it is clean, and at the end Jason who hugs him is nailed again. Maybe they're different Jason's after all.😵💫
@Gamlet: I've been watching this healing wound on my nose the whole series. Surprisingly, they did not forget to do this and it gradually healed. And both Jason's guns in Episode 7 had this healing wound. Apparently, Jason Jupiter is exactly the one we've been watching the entire series. After the conversation in the bar, they showed how he took matches, then in the cafe he used these matches to smoke, then he got to the police for smoking and then Daniela came to him. In the last couple of episodes, it has become noticeable that emphasis is being placed on the details by which the viewer will be able to accurately identify the right Jason. Another thing is that I personally feel bad for the other Jason's, who remained as adequate as ours, but did not manage to become the first. After all, each of them is the "version after the abduction", so everyone deserves what our "34" aspired to. And he's ours only for us, the audience, because we've been watching him.
@troLoLo: This smoking scene made me tense, I thought that Jason, whom we were watching, came from a world where smoking is allowed in public places. And if all the visitors here are outraged, then this is not his world.
Why didn't I see that the finale hadn't come out yet?! Now I'm waiting with everyone for the ending)
Thanks for the reasoning and guesses - the commentators create the right atmosphere around the series!
And I, as a humanitarian, immersed myself in fiction and observe the main thing - human behavior in the circumstances. I liked Amanda's disclosure and how the disappointment of evil Jason in family life was shown against the background of his vanity from his genius.
It seems that the real Jason has not yet moved into his real world. And while the rest of the Jason's are killing each other in his world, the real one has the last ampoule left, which will bring him home. In the second season, the police will go crazy finding the bodies of men of the same type. The clone army - the military is clearly interested in technology.
Дело уже даже не особо в том как куча Джейсонов оказалось именно в этой реальности, а как из этого всего грамотно разруливать - ума не приложу. Зато можно смело делать спин-офф о том, как другие версии Джейсона путешествовали по разным мирам))
@-VLDMR-: here is a logical option - to make 5 more seasons, the directors themselves get confused, and in the end do not explain anything) God forbid, of course, that it should be so
Only one thing is not clear. If there are so many options for a good Jason who is eager to return to his family. Then why aren't there as many variants of evil Jason? Which were formed when he entered the cube for the first time, and went to steal the life of another. According to the idea, he also had to split up along the way. And there were also going to be a lot of evil Jason's wanting a new life. The discrepancy is so.
@EvilWizard: Yes, it would be funny if evil Jason threw out the good one, took his place, and then the next evil one came.2, who found this world a little later and did the same to the evil one.1 and so on endlessly) :D
@EvilWizard: Evil-Jason the scientist is patient zero, his world is considered zero or mathematical World N, as he starts a chain of events, getting into the world of Jason the teacher, creating an Alpha world from him, where all Jason the teachers will strive. And everything else that happens will be in conjunction with the Zero world of N - the Alpha World. And evil-Jason will be only 1. But there is an Evil-Jason-scientist who entered another world - the World of Bet, and therefore a new bundle and a new reality are being created, and since the zero-evil-Jason-scientist made a different choice, his world at the coordinate points will no longer be N, but N+1, and a different bundle is being created in within the worlds of N+1 is the World of Beta and there is already its own separate story and so on indefinitely. That is, the Evil Jacons will always be alone within the framework of the universe they created
@dandanych: Evil Jason also searched for this world for a long time and later, having already found this world, went to the cube many times, so he could not help but create his copies, which in theory should have returned to these worlds in endless numbers. It's just that the scientific component is not very thought out for the sake of the dramatic.
To be honest, it's a pity for all the alternative Jason who appeared, because, in fact, they are all real, and Daniela was just the first one who got to her...
just assuming that there are an infinite number of realities, then the flow of these copies simply could not stop and the world would simply be filled with them as much as possible)) i.e. what is the reason for the specific number of copies in this world? number of jars? or just by chance? but again, if there are infinitely many worlds, then there are also infinitely many coincidences, which means they must fall into this world non-stop. In general, it's a fail, not an idea with these copies.
@SirGuron: in general, the idea of a constantly dividing world (multiverse), depending on whether I decided to write you a comment or put the phone aside, is already a file. it is difficult to fit and difficult to describe in the brain of a healthy person. We will proceed from the reality that the universe is one (indivisible) and linear in the space-time continuum.
@SirGuron: In fact, you are right, and that is why they leave their universe, because it will be the zero point for all of them, where they will return indefinitely. In fact, their world is doomed to be filled with Jason, but their wife and son will no longer be there.
It's like they've overreached, I can't even imagine how the screenwriters can get out of here so as not to shit themselves. On the other hand , it's still interesting 😁
@musicliveinus: it's better to overdo it than to rivet the same series, where fiction is just the beginning for 10 episodes of important conversations without action) apple recently closed this and it's good.
My brain exploded, there are so many Jason's, there are a lot of dead Jason's. What happens when the police start finding many bodies of the same person?! Is the Jason who was originally kidnapped by Jason-2 now with Daniella?! Or is it one of the copies?! And now how to get rid of all the others? I'm really looking forward to the final episode. I hope that these storylines will be simplified at least a little for the audience there. 🙄
@Oksana_Gol: No way. This world is doomed to be filled with Jason and most likely die. And since the drug has not been created in this world, this is their dead end (except for those versions for which this world is not the last ampoule). Therefore, GG-Jason went to another world with his wife and son.
It is unlikely that they will be able to untangle this stream of Jason's in one episode and complete the series with dignity. It is more likely that in the 9th episode they will get even more clever and like a reserve for the second season. It's a good thing that there are only 3 days left to wait, but I hate this habit of most platforms releasing one episode at a time.
Wonderful, just wonderful! A series that undermined, notably, minds and fantasies) how many discussions) the series after this series clearly turned into a different kind of tone, which is also only pleasing!
"planet of the apes... ahem.. Jason's: The Beginning")
Oh , and they 've done it ! I already began to doubt my reality , and that I was sitting on my favorite chair. It made me wonder what would happen to me if I was thrown into my "dream reality". Will I be able to settle in there? Or will I be a foreign body? This reality is true - where I belong. According to the plot of the series, it is difficult to find an adequate ending for "our hitman". If I were him, I would explain everything to the family. I came up with a reality where they all crashed in a plane crash a couple of years ago, but without a nuclear war)). And moved there for permanent residence . and what are the options? Always fighting off a "place in the sun " from yourself ?
Don't complicate it. As soon as Jason was kidnapped, he stopped influencing "his" reality, so it continued to develop deterministically with respect to him. Anyway, now his reality is the one in which he found himself in another reality… One way or another, all his alternative variations fall into the original reality, since they remember it the same way.
This series showed how great the series is (I don't understand physics and I don't even want to climb higher into people's thoughts, I only know what emotions it causes me and they are awesome!) I didn't see spoilers about a lot of Jason, so when they started to get out and everyone really considers Daniela their wife and loves her very much my brain began to burst with sympathy for everyone, but we are already very used to our Jason and we do not want to let him go. In general, I'm really looking forward to the denouement
Honestly I just breathed out after this episode and hope for a happy ending… Some of the" good " Jason's will also know that they weren't in Hawaii last year, didn't eat pizza on Thursdays, will have to come up with a code word every time, it's easier to take your family to the cube and stay in a peaceful world, somewhere near Amanda. I would do this, because it's really hard to figure out how else to get out of this mess…
@Juullietta: I wanted to ask, without any negativity at all, but what motivates you to write a comment in Ukrainian where everyone communicates in Russian? For me, it would be strange if I wrote a comment on the same site, well, for example, in Tatar. Maybe I just don't understand something and someone can explain it to me?
@Silverstein: I have the whole site in Ukrainian and if anyone does not understand, there is a translation option. I am pleased to find comments in my native language myself :)
I'm here after the final episode and by God, the feeling is that here in the comments, all these are versions of me who are discussing the issue that interests me. We are interested. Get back to your worlds, this is the ending from my world!
It's strange that only one Jason came up with the idea of smoking in a cafe. If they all think about the same thing, then there must have been crowds of Jason in the police stations.
If every time Jason and Amanda opened a new door, new Jason and Amanda appeared, then I have 2 questions: 1) did their replicas also have the ability to replicate, or could only the original D&A do it? If everything is still there, then this process, it turns out, cannot be stopped, and what kind of chaos can this lead to in the end? 2) When orig. Jason decided to escape to a new world with his wife and son, they understood that as soon as they opened the door, their copies would be created, which would also be looking for a new digestible world and not the fact that they would find and could die (remember how one of the Amandas was killed by a tree)? So he was aware that his wife and son would replicate and definitely die behind some doors in some universes? That is, this moral and ethical question of the protagonist, the protagonist, by definition, is not interested? Well, the bonus question is: what will the police and other authorities do with the tueva hook of the Jaysons who remained in the original universe? Well , after they die of fucking 😀
It's not clear why she decided to trust this particular Jenson and not any other. Or would she trust anyone who would be the first to meet her and discuss the code word with her?!) Well, that is, this Jackson was lucky only that he intercepted her first)
I hope I'm not the only one confused which one of them is which?! I recognize it only by the rubber band ring on my finger and the injury on my nose) it's actually a very cool series, I wanted to read Crouch's book, I hope it's on paper.
@Hamali666: there is, but it has not been reprinted for a long time. You can only buy with your hands. I think if Crouch's agent did not break off relations with Russia, after the release of the series, we can hope for a re-release.
So after all, all the other "first" Jason's are all the same person. What would really be brave if Jason from the first episode died, and we had to empathize for one of Jason's friends
I also wondered why all the Jason's were in the same reality. I think that Jason 2, when he went to someone else's reality, in fact took the place of Jason 1. Thus, he created a paradox of new Jacons who do not have their own world and are all trying to return to the same one. That is, while Jason 2 was out of place, Jason 1 was breeding in a cube without the possibility of creating his own reality because of this paradox.
Why are new Jacons being created, but a new parallel universe is not? Why did they all end up in the universe with our Jason?
And if it is really true from a scientific point of view that all these "good" Jason's have a common universe, then our Jason is not truly real. They turn out to be all original.
The brain after this series 🤯
It seems so, but the first "our" Jason had a small wound on his nose during the abduction.
And then it turns out that all of our Jason's must have it, because he started using the cube after getting wounded.
But the other "our" Jason's don't have a wound on their nose.
As I have already written, this is probably because they have no or almost no ampoules left, and this reality is as similar as possible to their reality.
It's just that during their absence, a bunch of Jason's and a bunch of THEIR realities with THEIR evil Jason have multiplied, because the fragmentation happened after their abduction. That's why they stay in it, because it really is theirs.
But also the reality in which the Evil Jason did not take Ryan away, did not leave the university, did not take a lot of money from a friend, does not go to a psychologist Amanda (i.e. makes other decisions) - in theory, any of these realities would also be for the good Jason "native", i.e.K. here it is no longer possible to understand which reality is right for him, because he is not aware of the correct course of events.
There are probably realities that the Jacons didn't get into at all, and those in which there are only 1-2 of them. But we are shown exactly one of the most reckless versions of what is happening with a large number of arrivals)
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By the way, it is possible that so many characters got into this reality, because they imagined a world in which Daniella suspects something, and worlds where Daniella did not follow and did not find out about the warehouse and generally lives and rejoices at what a cool husband she has become - in these The Good Jason didn't get into the worlds, because it's terrible for them to think that their wife didn't see or understand anything.
That's why I think that so many Jason's came running into this reality, because it was in this reality that Daniella suspected something was wrong and began to distrust her husband, keep an eye on him, etc., because "our Jason" thinks about his wife in the depths of himself (makes an amendment) that she would have noticed the changes in her husband and would have done something.
But there could have been Jacons who would not have made such an amendment for the future, and would have arrived in a world where Daniella does not suspect anything at all and rejoices at the fresh breath in her relationship with her husband. They just don't show it to us) neither did they show the fate of Amanda, who was with another Jason and disappeared somewhere in a dark world.
It is important that they are all from different realities, in which the Jason's life was completely identical before the abduction, and after it variations began.
For each of the Jason's, their reality is correct, but they all turned out and want to stay in this one, because they do not have ampoules and this reality is 1 in 1 similar to theirs before the abduction.
But at the same time, there may be many different worlds that are identical before the point of abduction and differ only in events after the point of abduction, but the Jacen don't give a fuck about it, because they don't know what happened after their abduction.
And the fact that they had no ampoules left - even if they had, it would not have changed their attempts to stay in this world, because all these Jason's have already entered a world that they consider their own, because in their opinion it does not differ from that world, from which every single Good Jason was kicked out by the evil Jason.
If there is only one original reality and splitting of people takes place only in the tunnel, then why is there not a bunch of evil Jason's in this single ideal reality, who split while looking for this ideal world? Or do you think only the good guys bud off?
We saw that Jason was opening the door to a world in which he and Amanda were killed because they ran away 2 hours later. And it was an absolute analogue of the world from which our Jason and Amanda escaped, just with slightly different conditions and consequences.
Or do you want to say that it was the same world in which the slow-witted Jason and Amanda materialized two hours later to be killed?
And then how do you think the cube works? Does C 0" create reality out of imagination, or does it just open the door to a world that a person in a superposition imagined (from an infinite variety of possible worlds)? In your opinion, the evil gg then just "invented" the world with Daniela and family, or did he, knowing that there were an infinite number of worlds, understand that there was a world somewhere where he (the other he) made a different choice, and represented it to move?
And from what you say, it turns out that this is the only such world in which Jason can find a family again, which is why this world is so valuable and all the Jacons come to it.
I do not know yet what the creators showed in the last episode, but it would be at least strange, given all that has happened, to say that this world is so unique and unique.
This would mean that there are not endless parallel realities and millions of possibilities here, but some kind of finite set of variations created by the "open doors" and now you can go around all kinds of worlds like different carousels in an amusement park.
If in the end they don't show that this world is somehow different, like here's a twist for you, then why make these strange assumptions about endless worlds?
Otherwise, why are any laws of this world and travel in cuba being introduced at all? Naturally, there is an artistic component, a narrative, a main character, etc., but some people make a big discount on the fact that these are the conventions of narration and the path of the hero when the series itself set what- that's the initial conditions. And turning a blind eye to plot blunders simply because it was easier for the scriptwriters or clearer for the audience.
If something is not shown in the work, it does not mean that nothing beyond what is shown does not exist and it is impossible to make assumptions. Otherwise, we would never have had films and books with an open ending.
And they don't have a common universe, they just imagined their own, and ended up in one of the infinitely similar ones.
That's why all the Jacons are really kind. The one who will be the first to declare himself to Daniele will be lucky, and we will find out what will happen to the rest already in episode 9.
Just don't think that I'm for the evil Jason.I mean, sometimes "the best is the enemy of the good."
One thing is, we could have combed the block and found the cube...
in different clothes, some without an arm, some without a leg - everyone goes, crawls forward as they can and repeats: "Daniella! Daniella!" - and they pull their hands forward.
The invasion of the Jason zombies.
And all this was supposed to be the end of not the 8th episode of 9, but the third series of 12 or 20 episodes.
That's when the series would be really powerful and innovative)
And it's not obvious what the joke was to chase Jason in a crowded place in the middle of the university? to do what?) This way, this world will be full of dead Jason. To be honest, I don't quite understand how to empathize with them at all, they are fucked up and they are in fact equal.
By the way, it would be funny if "evil Jason" had already been overwhelmed by one of the versions of "good", and when Danielle called, he would have known that there was no pink house. That would be an embarrassment)
Well, in general, evil Jason should have immediately gone to the cube at the first encounter, come up with a new cool world for himself and get the fuck out of it, let the good ones sort it out among themselves. He's got everything going on with Daniella anyway.
And the family, in theory, is already dangerous in this world, and it is necessary to go somewhere to another utopia.
If there are an infinite number of realities, then this world with the Jason invasion is not the only one.
Well, it will be impossible to imagine this world and open the door to it if it is already open. Openness would be just a protection, and only those who are already in this world could use the cube, and can enter it and close the door behind them.
This, of course, if we assume that the structures work exactly like portals, and if the cube already exists in this world, then it has not been changed.
But it may also be that the cube that is already in this world does not really affect anything for cubes from other worlds. And the cube from which the character "travels" - can "materialize" in place of the existing cube, replacing it according to the order ", and then at the same time at this point there will be a closed and open door, and the hero from the inside in in any case, he will be able to open it and get into this world.
However, nothing prevented evil Jason from conducting an experiment and trying to protect himself in this way, only if he did not know for sure that it would not work. But this was not explained in any way.
It's the same as with pages on the Internet - if you close it and make a new request, it will open again, regardless of what happened to the old one.
But the concrete around the cube could prevent an unexpected guest from entering this world, he would just see a wall of concrete and would not be able to understand anything.
If I were evil Jason, I would experiment, of course. And then he seemed to have invented this device and then gave a fuck to him, like "well, somehow it works ". You could spray-paint some kind of mark on the cube, drive back and forth, exit the cube and see if he returned to the world where the cube with the mark, or the mark disappeared: 1) because it's still a different world 2) because the cube was updated after use
In my opinion, it doesn't matter what happens to the cube door, it doesn't open, but the door in the superposition portal.
Only if you build a barrier around the cube, it can prevent you from exiting the portal.
Is Jason in the library at uni?
If so, then he is generally strange there - he was limping and burned, it looks more like he got into strong radiation somewhere or something similar - he suffered powerfully and therefore just silently pursues, hobbling, the one he saw similar, thoughtlessly and with a strange expression on his face.
Daniela's choice is also psychologically brilliant, if I didn't find the authors too smart. I'll write about it below.
In my opinion, this is just a version of reality that a certain number of Jason 1 got into. At the same time, there are an infinite number of realities where Jason 2 has no problems with Jason 1 at all, because they never get there.
But in general, it's more likely just a basic scenario move so that the audience continues to perceive our Jason as adequate, and others as some kind of side stupid Jason.34;))
He saved himself. The rest began to have mental deformation, when a person is ready to go to extremes for the sake of a goal. And this one continued to use his mind, not violence (although we see that such a thought was already in this world, but apparently he was stopped by the fact that one of his copies had already managed to get in front of him, and, guessing what was happening, he reflected on how this could end).
And thrash was still developing. Evil Jay probably killed for the first time. So also yourself? After that, in fact, the roof will leak with a high probability. Plus the evidence. Well, judge for yourself, where did the Evil JAY go, leaving a copy of himself in the toilet? And in the Honda, it also looks like his corpse was left in the trunk =)) Considering that all this is at the same police station, this is already a complete fiasco. From a documentary point of view, you can't get away. You'll sweep it under the rug.
But when Daniela chose "our" Jason (who is wearing a suit that Amanda bought in utopia), I mentally applauded. All the way, I wondered what she would do. After all, her choice was the only way to cut this Gordian knot. There were a lot of options to psychologically screw up the logic of her behavior. I couldn't even imagine a way out. And she chose exactly the one who really chose the course of action that she could expect from someone she had known all her life! Well, that's if I didn't attribute too much intelligence to the screenwriters. But that's exactly what it looked like to me, and if I'm not mistaken, I think they'll say it in the finale. It's just that the others looked a little obsessed, i.e. they went a little cuckoo already from the trials...
However, with a guarantee, this requires the participation of a villain. Only he could return to the right world with proven accuracy, and only he knew exactly where he left "our" Ryan and picked up the mechanic.
Daniela chose our true one, as if a little luck, but since he did not pursue himself, but followed a different tactic, then thoughts/ideas are built from another. I would say that another 10 minutes as they go to another city / country and the credits roll, the end of the season. What they will show us is a mystery. There's only a week left, we'll wait)
The option that there are many of them was not even on the surface - but even on the poster of the series)
To gather all the good copies, and all together to wipe out the bad. And then build some kind of nito machine that will determine who is from which universe.
But our Jason's are too impulsive. These guys are 40 years old, and they behave like teenagers.
I understand that indeed, while Jason was in the cube and wandering around the worlds, different versions of him were created, but for each of these Jason's, a world was not created with " his " Daniella and Max, it turns out they really have a common Wife, and there can be infinitely many Jason's and they can still to crawl to this world, as the ampoules are spent (after all, Amanda was gone at all stages) and the speed of thinking.
And where to put them all is unclear, plus there are already two corpses that the police are about to find, and they are identified as Jason 1
The original Jason will have to organize some kind of shelter for them all, or send them to some worlds...
It's just that they had an identical life before their abductions, and after that it began to differ depending on which way they traveled to this reality.
And since this reality is very similar to their reality, and they no longer have ampoules, they decided to settle here (they think the same way).
He means another one, that is, not this one, not from this world, but his Daniel from his world (because he has his own reality).
It doesn't matter when the separation began, it's a matter of looking at this phenomenon.
Everyone has their own original world, but they are identical until the moment of abduction, which is why the good Jacons are so similar.
It doesn't matter which Daniela was killed, you never know where this good Jason went, perhaps it was his Daniela who was killed, but history is silent about this.
THAT'S NOT THE POINT.
They all consider this world to be their own, because it is identical to their worlds until the moment of branching (abduction of good by evil). And yes, you can say it was one world - depending on where to spend your vision. But it DOESN'T MATTER, the idea is clear.
It really doesn't seem to make sense to kill Daniela in the target world, but she could have been killed by mistake, like someone was killed in one of the early episodes.
Does evil Jason have a right to Danielle, since he was the same person? Probably not, because he did not make this choice and did not sacrifice his job. The fact that they were all one is no longer important, because now there are many of them with different experiences and injuries. Well, they can't go to their own world, because there are no ampoules, and it's still completely unclear which world is theirs, because all the branching of the worlds took place without their participation, and in fact every world after the point of abduction is their world is.
We are now being shown that allegedly Daniella chose Jason, whom we followed the previous 7 episodes. But we will never know, any Jason could have thought of such a method, and Daniella chose the first one who opened her eyes. And in fact, our Jason could be the one who cut off the car with Dani and another kind Jason, or maybe this Jason was the one we were following. The main thing is that she found her own, and which version is not so important.
The only questions left are what other good Jason's should do when they see that Dani has already chosen one of the good versions, and how the world will react to these Jason's, as there are more and more of them (but this is another series already apparently).
Another thing is that I personally feel sorry for the other Jason's, who remained as adequate as ours, but did not manage to become the first. After all, each of them is the "version after the abduction", so everyone deserves what our "34" aspired to. And he's ours only for us, the audience, because we've been watching him.
there was also a very old short film about a 1-minute time machine)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DScQGgpaNkk&;ab_channel=McElroy
It also reminded me of something :D
There is not enough crowd of "evil" Jason. After all, he also did not immediately learn how to jump around the worlds and had to breed his own doppelgangers. It is necessary to gather all the Jason (evil and kind) at the edge of the forest, give each a kitchen knife and the winner will get a wife and son. The curtain!
I had a dream
Jason Voris -
Crazy dead
Wearing a hockey mask.
I'm f***ing
Such dreams,
I don't like
Such fairy tales.
With an axe
Threatening me,
He's following me.
I've been chasing all night.
Well,
That I'm awake,
Otherwise, it would be
I shit myself.
Jason Voris!
Jason Voris!
H.Z. 1995
It would be cool if the events in the series ended on Friday the 13th.)))
1) Jason enters the cube, makes an injection and gets into the corridor.
2) Opens the door and thereby creates a new universe in which there is exactly the same Jason as himself.
So?
Rather like this:
1) Jason enters the cube, makes an injection and gets into the corridor.
2) The cube is in superposition and while Jason is under the action of injection (also in superposition), he makes decisions in it - each one creates a new Jason.
That is, he made the decision to open the door inside - he opened it and went out.
And inside there was Jason, who went on and opened another door.
Etc.
And I managed to cheer for " our" Jason and shout with laughter.
But if you think about the situation, it is, of course, darkness and a living nightmare.
I honestly can't imagine how the screenwriters and the author of the book will unravel this situation. At least from a mathematical point of view, because there can be a hundred real husbands for one wife.
We wrote above about the experience and the fact that only the original Jason retained his true self, but we don't know that, and in fact his only trump card is that he just managed to get to his wife first.
Another thing is that I personally feel bad for the other Jason's, who remained as adequate as ours, but did not manage to become the first. After all, each of them is the "version after the abduction", so everyone deserves what our "34" aspired to. And he's ours only for us, the audience, because we've been watching him.
No, we just know what exactly is ours, because the creators of the series made it so that our 34 had a wound on his nose, and all the other good ones with elastic bands had such a wound. There is no wound.
And he got this wound during the kidnapping, when he fell down the stairs and before entering the cube.
So all good Jason's should have it.
But it is only our 34 that has it, so that we can determine that it is the same one.
Apparently, Jason Jupiter is exactly the one we've been watching the entire series. After the conversation in the bar, they showed how he took matches, then in the cafe he used these matches to smoke, then he got to the police for smoking and then Daniela came to him. In the last couple of episodes, it has become noticeable that emphasis is being placed on the details by which the viewer will be able to accurately identify the right Jason.
Another thing is that I personally feel bad for the other Jason's, who remained as adequate as ours, but did not manage to become the first. After all, each of them is the "version after the abduction", so everyone deserves what our "34" aspired to. And he's ours only for us, the audience, because we've been watching him.
Thanks for the reasoning and guesses - the commentators create the right atmosphere around the series!
And I, as a humanitarian, immersed myself in fiction and observe the main thing - human behavior in the circumstances. I liked Amanda's disclosure and how the disappointment of evil Jason in family life was shown against the background of his vanity from his genius.
In the second season, the police will go crazy finding the bodies of men of the same type. The clone army - the military is clearly interested in technology.
Зато можно смело делать спин-офф о том, как другие версии Джейсона путешествовали по разным мирам))
entered the cube for the first time, and went to steal the life of another. According to the idea, he also had to split up along the way. And there were also going to be a lot of evil Jason's wanting a new life. The discrepancy is so.
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From the abundance of Jason in the frame, it began to ripple in the eyes and break the brain)
It's like some kind of Smith agents from the Matrix.
"planet of the apes... ahem.. Jason's: The Beginning")
It made me wonder what would happen to me if I was thrown into my "dream reality". Will I be able to settle in there? Or will I be a foreign body? This reality is true - where I belong.
According to the plot of the series, it is difficult to find an adequate ending for "our hitman". If I were him, I would explain everything to the family. I came up with a reality where they all crashed in a plane crash a couple of years ago, but without a nuclear war)). And moved there for permanent residence . and what are the options? Always fighting off a "place in the sun " from yourself ?
I didn't see spoilers about a lot of Jason, so when they started to get out and everyone really considers Daniela their wife and loves her very much my brain began to burst with sympathy for everyone, but we are already very used to our Jason and we do not want to let him go. In general, I'm really looking forward to the denouement
Some of the" good " Jason's will also know that they weren't in Hawaii last year, didn't eat pizza on Thursdays, will have to come up with a code word every time, it's easier to take your family to the cube and stay in a peaceful world, somewhere near Amanda. I would do this, because it's really hard to figure out how else to get out of this mess…
Maybe I just don't understand something and someone can explain it to me?
Only if it's not Game of Thrones 🙄
I'll add one thing - where does "Temporary Change Management" look ...))
Fake Jason could have done the same thing. It's not clear.