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s01e08 — Jupiter
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Panicked and cornered, Jason2 tells Daniela and Charlie they need to leave town immediately.
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241Why are new Jacons being created, but a new parallel universe is not? Why did they all end up in the universe with our Jason?
And if it is really true from a scientific point of view that all these "good" Jason's have a common universe, then our Jason is not truly real. They turn out to be all original.
The brain after this series 🤯
It seems so, but the first "our" Jason had a small wound on his nose during the abduction.
And then it turns out that all of our Jason's must have it, because he started using the cube after getting wounded.
But the other "our" Jason's don't have a wound on their nose.
As I have already written, this is probably because they have no or almost no ampoules left, and this reality is as similar as possible to their reality.
It's just that during their absence, a bunch of Jason's and a bunch of THEIR realities with THEIR evil Jason have multiplied, because the fragmentation happened after their abduction. That's why they stay in it, because it really is theirs.
But also the reality in which the Evil Jason did not take Ryan away, did not leave the university, did not take a lot of money from a friend, does not go to a psychologist Amanda (i.e. makes other decisions) - in theory, any of these realities would also be for the good Jason "native", i.e.K. here it is no longer possible to understand which reality is right for him, because he is not aware of the correct course of events.
There are probably realities that the Jacons didn't get into at all, and those in which there are only 1-2 of them. But we are shown exactly one of the most reckless versions of what is happening with a large number of arrivals)
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By the way, it is possible that so many characters got into this reality, because they imagined a world in which Daniella suspects something, and worlds where Daniella did not follow and did not find out about the warehouse and generally lives and rejoices at what a cool husband she has become - in these The Good Jason didn't get into the worlds, because it's terrible for them to think that their wife didn't see or understand anything.
That's why I think that so many Jason's came running into this reality, because it was in this reality that Daniella suspected something was wrong and began to distrust her husband, keep an eye on him, etc., because "our Jason" thinks about his wife in the depths of himself (makes an amendment) that she would have noticed the changes in her husband and would have done something.
But there could have been Jacons who would not have made such an amendment for the future, and would have arrived in a world where Daniella does not suspect anything at all and rejoices at the fresh breath in her relationship with her husband. They just don't show it to us) neither did they show the fate of Amanda, who was with another Jason and disappeared somewhere in a dark world.
It is important that they are all from different realities, in which the Jason's life was completely identical before the abduction, and after it variations began.
For each of the Jason's, their reality is correct, but they all turned out and want to stay in this one, because they do not have ampoules and this reality is 1 in 1 similar to theirs before the abduction.
But at the same time, there may be many different worlds that are identical before the point of abduction and differ only in events after the point of abduction, but the Jacen don't give a fuck about it, because they don't know what happened after their abduction.
And the fact that they had no ampoules left - even if they had, it would not have changed their attempts to stay in this world, because all these Jason's have already entered a world that they consider their own, because in their opinion it does not differ from that world, from which every single Good Jason was kicked out by the evil Jason.
If there is only one original reality and splitting of people takes place only in the tunnel, then why is there not a bunch of evil Jason's in this single ideal reality, who split while looking for this ideal world? Or do you think only the good guys bud off?
We saw that Jason was opening the door to a world in which he and Amanda were killed because they ran away 2 hours later. And it was an absolute analogue of the world from which our Jason and Amanda escaped, just with slightly different conditions and consequences.
Or do you want to say that it was the same world in which the slow-witted Jason and Amanda materialized two hours later to be killed?
And then how do you think the cube works? Does C 0" create reality out of imagination, or does it just open the door to a world that a person in a superposition imagined (from an infinite variety of possible worlds)? In your opinion, the evil gg then just "invented" the world with Daniela and family, or did he, knowing that there were an infinite number of worlds, understand that there was a world somewhere where he (the other he) made a different choice, and represented it to move?
And from what you say, it turns out that this is the only such world in which Jason can find a family again, which is why this world is so valuable and all the Jacons come to it.
I do not know yet what the creators showed in the last episode, but it would be at least strange, given all that has happened, to say that this world is so unique and unique.
This would mean that there are not endless parallel realities and millions of possibilities here, but some kind of finite set of variations created by the "open doors" and now you can go around all kinds of worlds like different carousels in an amusement park.
If in the end they don't show that this world is somehow different, like here's a twist for you, then why make these strange assumptions about endless worlds?
Otherwise, why are any laws of this world and travel in cuba being introduced at all? Naturally, there is an artistic component, a narrative, a main character, etc., but some people make a big discount on the fact that these are the conventions of narration and the path of the hero when the series itself set what- that's the initial conditions. And turning a blind eye to plot blunders simply because it was easier for the scriptwriters or clearer for the audience.
If something is not shown in the work, it does not mean that nothing beyond what is shown does not exist and it is impossible to make assumptions. Otherwise, we would never have had films and books with an open ending.
And they don't have a common universe, they just imagined their own, and ended up in one of the infinitely similar ones.
That's why all the Jacons are really kind. The one who will be the first to declare himself to Daniele will be lucky, and we will find out what will happen to the rest already in episode 9.
Just don't think that I'm for the evil Jason.I mean, sometimes "the best is the enemy of the good."
One thing is, we could have combed the block and found the cube...
in different clothes, some without an arm, some without a leg - everyone goes, crawls forward as they can and repeats: "Daniella! Daniella!" - and they pull their hands forward.
The invasion of the Jason zombies.
And all this was supposed to be the end of not the 8th episode of 9, but the third series of 12 or 20 episodes.
That's when the series would be really powerful and innovative)
And it's not obvious what the joke was to chase Jason in a crowded place in the middle of the university? to do what?) This way, this world will be full of dead Jason. To be honest, I don't quite understand how to empathize with them at all, they are fucked up and they are in fact equal.
By the way, it would be funny if "evil Jason" had already been overwhelmed by one of the versions of "good", and when Danielle called, he would have known that there was no pink house. That would be an embarrassment)
Well, in general, evil Jason should have immediately gone to the cube at the first encounter, come up with a new cool world for himself and get the fuck out of it, let the good ones sort it out among themselves. He's got everything going on with Daniella anyway.
And the family, in theory, is already dangerous in this world, and it is necessary to go somewhere to another utopia.
If there are an infinite number of realities, then this world with the Jason invasion is not the only one.
Well, it will be impossible to imagine this world and open the door to it if it is already open. Openness would be just a protection, and only those who are already in this world could use the cube, and can enter it and close the door behind them.
This, of course, if we assume that the structures work exactly like portals, and if the cube already exists in this world, then it has not been changed.
But it may also be that the cube that is already in this world does not really affect anything for cubes from other worlds. And the cube from which the character "travels" - can "materialize" in place of the existing cube, replacing it according to the order ", and then at the same time at this point there will be a closed and open door, and the hero from the inside in in any case, he will be able to open it and get into this world.
However, nothing prevented evil Jason from conducting an experiment and trying to protect himself in this way, only if he did not know for sure that it would not work. But this was not explained in any way.
It's the same as with pages on the Internet - if you close it and make a new request, it will open again, regardless of what happened to the old one.
But the concrete around the cube could prevent an unexpected guest from entering this world, he would just see a wall of concrete and would not be able to understand anything.
If I were evil Jason, I would experiment, of course. And then he seemed to have invented this device and then gave a fuck to him, like "well, somehow it works ". You could spray-paint some kind of mark on the cube, drive back and forth, exit the cube and see if he returned to the world where the cube with the mark, or the mark disappeared: 1) because it's still a different world 2) because the cube was updated after use
In my opinion, it doesn't matter what happens to the cube door, it doesn't open, but the door in the superposition portal.
Only if you build a barrier around the cube, it can prevent you from exiting the portal.
Is Jason in the library at uni?
If so, then he is generally strange there - he was limping and burned, it looks more like he got into strong radiation somewhere or something similar - he suffered powerfully and therefore just silently pursues, hobbling, the one he saw similar, thoughtlessly and with a strange expression on his face.
Daniela's choice is also psychologically brilliant, if I didn't find the authors too smart. I'll write about it below.
In my opinion, this is just a version of reality that a certain number of Jason 1 got into. At the same time, there are an infinite number of realities where Jason 2 has no problems with Jason 1 at all, because they never get there.
But in general, it's more likely just a basic scenario move so that the audience continues to perceive our Jason as adequate, and others as some kind of side stupid Jason.34;))
He saved himself. The rest began to have mental deformation, when a person is ready to go to extremes for the sake of a goal. And this one continued to use his mind, not violence (although we see that such a thought was already in this world, but apparently he was stopped by the fact that one of his copies had already managed to get in front of him, and, guessing what was happening, he reflected on how this could end).
And thrash was still developing. Evil Jay probably killed for the first time. So also yourself? After that, in fact, the roof will leak with a high probability. Plus the evidence. Well, judge for yourself, where did the Evil JAY go, leaving a copy of himself in the toilet? And in the Honda, it also looks like his corpse was left in the trunk =)) Considering that all this is at the same police station, this is already a complete fiasco. From a documentary point of view, you can't get away. You'll sweep it under the rug.
But when Daniela chose "our" Jason (who is wearing a suit that Amanda bought in utopia), I mentally applauded. All the way, I wondered what she would do. After all, her choice was the only way to cut this Gordian knot. There were a lot of options to psychologically screw up the logic of her behavior. I couldn't even imagine a way out. And she chose exactly the one who really chose the course of action that she could expect from someone she had known all her life! Well, that's if I didn't attribute too much intelligence to the screenwriters. But that's exactly what it looked like to me, and if I'm not mistaken, I think they'll say it in the finale. It's just that the others looked a little obsessed, i.e. they went a little cuckoo already from the trials...
However, with a guarantee, this requires the participation of a villain. Only he could return to the right world with proven accuracy, and only he knew exactly where he left "our" Ryan and picked up the mechanic.
Daniela chose our true one, as if a little luck, but since he did not pursue himself, but followed a different tactic, then thoughts/ideas are built from another. I would say that another 10 minutes as they go to another city / country and the credits roll, the end of the season. What they will show us is a mystery. There's only a week left, we'll wait)
The option that there are many of them was not even on the surface - but even on the poster of the series)
To gather all the good copies, and all together to wipe out the bad. And then build some kind of nito machine that will determine who is from which universe.
But our Jason's are too impulsive. These guys are 40 years old, and they behave like teenagers.
I understand that indeed, while Jason was in the cube and wandering around the worlds, different versions of him were created, but for each of these Jason's, a world was not created with " his " Daniella and Max, it turns out they really have a common Wife, and there can be infinitely many Jason's and they can still to crawl to this world, as the ampoules are spent (after all, Amanda was gone at all stages) and the speed of thinking.
And where to put them all is unclear, plus there are already two corpses that the police are about to find, and they are identified as Jason 1
The original Jason will have to organize some kind of shelter for them all, or send them to some worlds...
It's just that they had an identical life before their abductions, and after that it began to differ depending on which way they traveled to this reality.
And since this reality is very similar to their reality, and they no longer have ampoules, they decided to settle here (they think the same way).
He means another one, that is, not this one, not from this world, but his Daniel from his world (because he has his own reality).
It doesn't matter when the separation began, it's a matter of looking at this phenomenon.
Everyone has their own original world, but they are identical until the moment of abduction, which is why the good Jacons are so similar.
It doesn't matter which Daniela was killed, you never know where this good Jason went, perhaps it was his Daniela who was killed, but history is silent about this.
THAT'S NOT THE POINT.
They all consider this world to be their own, because it is identical to their worlds until the moment of branching (abduction of good by evil). And yes, you can say it was one world - depending on where to spend your vision. But it DOESN'T MATTER, the idea is clear.
It really doesn't seem to make sense to kill Daniela in the target world, but she could have been killed by mistake, like someone was killed in one of the early episodes.
Does evil Jason have a right to Danielle, since he was the same person? Probably not, because he did not make this choice and did not sacrifice his job. The fact that they were all one is no longer important, because now there are many of them with different experiences and injuries. Well, they can't go to their own world, because there are no ampoules, and it's still completely unclear which world is theirs, because all the branching of the worlds took place without their participation, and in fact every world after the point of abduction is their world is.
We are now being shown that allegedly Daniella chose Jason, whom we followed the previous 7 episodes. But we will never know, any Jason could have thought of such a method, and Daniella chose the first one who opened her eyes. And in fact, our Jason could be the one who cut off the car with Dani and another kind Jason, or maybe this Jason was the one we were following. The main thing is that she found her own, and which version is not so important.
The only questions left are what other good Jason's should do when they see that Dani has already chosen one of the good versions, and how the world will react to these Jason's, as there are more and more of them (but this is another series already apparently).
Another thing is that I personally feel sorry for the other Jason's, who remained as adequate as ours, but did not manage to become the first. After all, each of them is the "version after the abduction", so everyone deserves what our "34" aspired to. And he's ours only for us, the audience, because we've been watching him.
there was also a very old short film about a 1-minute time machine)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DScQGgpaNkk&;ab_channel=McElroy
It also reminded me of something :D
There is not enough crowd of "evil" Jason. After all, he also did not immediately learn how to jump around the worlds and had to breed his own doppelgangers. It is necessary to gather all the Jason (evil and kind) at the edge of the forest, give each a kitchen knife and the winner will get a wife and son. The curtain!
I had a dream
Jason Voris -
Crazy dead
Wearing a hockey mask.
I'm f***ing
Such dreams,
I don't like
Such fairy tales.
With an axe
Threatening me,
He's following me.
I've been chasing all night.
Well,
That I'm awake,
Otherwise, it would be
I shit myself.
Jason Voris!
Jason Voris!
H.Z. 1995
It would be cool if the events in the series ended on Friday the 13th.)))
1) Jason enters the cube, makes an injection and gets into the corridor.
2) Opens the door and thereby creates a new universe in which there is exactly the same Jason as himself.
So?
Rather like this:
1) Jason enters the cube, makes an injection and gets into the corridor.
2) The cube is in superposition and while Jason is under the action of injection (also in superposition), he makes decisions in it - each one creates a new Jason.
That is, he made the decision to open the door inside - he opened it and went out.
And inside there was Jason, who went on and opened another door.
Etc.
And I managed to cheer for " our" Jason and shout with laughter.
But if you think about the situation, it is, of course, darkness and a living nightmare.
I honestly can't imagine how the screenwriters and the author of the book will unravel this situation. At least from a mathematical point of view, because there can be a hundred real husbands for one wife.
We wrote above about the experience and the fact that only the original Jason retained his true self, but we don't know that, and in fact his only trump card is that he just managed to get to his wife first.
Another thing is that I personally feel bad for the other Jason's, who remained as adequate as ours, but did not manage to become the first. After all, each of them is the "version after the abduction", so everyone deserves what our "34" aspired to. And he's ours only for us, the audience, because we've been watching him.
No, we just know what exactly is ours, because the creators of the series made it so that our 34 had a wound on his nose, and all the other good ones with elastic bands had such a wound. There is no wound.
And he got this wound during the kidnapping, when he fell down the stairs and before entering the cube.
So all good Jason's should have it.
But it is only our 34 that has it, so that we can determine that it is the same one.
Apparently, Jason Jupiter is exactly the one we've been watching the entire series. After the conversation in the bar, they showed how he took matches, then in the cafe he used these matches to smoke, then he got to the police for smoking and then Daniela came to him. In the last couple of episodes, it has become noticeable that emphasis is being placed on the details by which the viewer will be able to accurately identify the right Jason.
Another thing is that I personally feel bad for the other Jason's, who remained as adequate as ours, but did not manage to become the first. After all, each of them is the "version after the abduction", so everyone deserves what our "34" aspired to. And he's ours only for us, the audience, because we've been watching him.
Thanks for the reasoning and guesses - the commentators create the right atmosphere around the series!
And I, as a humanitarian, immersed myself in fiction and observe the main thing - human behavior in the circumstances. I liked Amanda's disclosure and how the disappointment of evil Jason in family life was shown against the background of his vanity from his genius.
In the second season, the police will go crazy finding the bodies of men of the same type. The clone army - the military is clearly interested in technology.
But you can safely make a spin-off about how other versions of Jason traveled to different worlds))
entered the cube for the first time, and went to steal the life of another. According to the idea, he also had to split up along the way. And there were also going to be a lot of evil Jason's wanting a new life. The discrepancy is so.
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From the abundance of Jason in the frame, it began to ripple in the eyes and break the brain)
It's like some kind of Smith agents from the Matrix.
"planet of the apes... ahem.. Jason's: The Beginning")
It made me wonder what would happen to me if I was thrown into my "dream reality". Will I be able to settle in there? Or will I be a foreign body? This reality is true - where I belong.
According to the plot of the series, it is difficult to find an adequate ending for "our hitman". If I were him, I would explain everything to the family. I came up with a reality where they all crashed in a plane crash a couple of years ago, but without a nuclear war)). And moved there for permanent residence . and what are the options? Always fighting off a "place in the sun " from yourself ?
I didn't see spoilers about a lot of Jason, so when they started to get out and everyone really considers Daniela their wife and loves her very much my brain began to burst with sympathy for everyone, but we are already very used to our Jason and we do not want to let him go. In general, I'm really looking forward to the denouement
Some of the" good " Jason's will also know that they weren't in Hawaii last year, didn't eat pizza on Thursdays, will have to come up with a code word every time, it's easier to take your family to the cube and stay in a peaceful world, somewhere near Amanda. I would do this, because it's really hard to figure out how else to get out of this mess…
Maybe I just don't understand something and someone can explain it to me?
Only if it's not Game of Thrones 🙄
I'll add one thing - where does "Temporary Change Management" look ...))
Fake Jason could have done the same thing. It's not clear.
According to sabzh, there are a hundred Jason's in the world. But only one of them is false! From the point of view of the wife and son, the remaining ones are completely equal and their memory is the same. Baba did a great job, of course - she just chose the first of them and gave them the password. Because what's the difference? The rest, like unsuccessful spermatozoa, simply did not have time.
Now hundreds of false Jasons should start arriving. He didn't make it on the first try either, anyway. Hence, he created branches. And as they get smarter, they should gradually get fit, too.
Evil Jason seems to be such a smart person, he created all this, figured out how to travel, but the fact that his alternative version is not a fool and can also think of all this and go looking for you, and with that there will be some consequences, in this case, a bunch of Jason - he did not think of it. And for what? A woman who was not averse to being with you in that world, you just had to try a little.