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Dark Matter — s01e09 — Entanglement

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Duration: 58 min.
Released: 26.06.202426.06.2024 15:00
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1 season
s01e09
s01e01 - Are You Happy in Your Life?
s01e02 - Trip of a Lifetime
s01e03 - The Box
s01e04 - The Corridor
s01e05 - Worldless
s01e06 - Superposition
s01e07 - In the Fires of Dead Stars
s01e08 - Jupiter
s01e09 - Entanglement

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g1477722
g1477722
26 Jun 08:58 # Show original
A very good ending and a series in general. Everything is great 👍
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
28 Jun 01:50 # Show original
@g1477722: Well, yes, the ending turned out just like in a fairy tale, and they lived happily ever after) Personally, I lacked some ambiguity or understatement.
But I really liked the series as a whole, the topic is complicated and you can dig into the little things for a long time, someone does, but I accept the world of the series as it is, especially since there are no serious plot blunders.
I do not know about season 2, as for me it is not really needed, after all that has been experienced, it will be too much to put new trials on the shoulders of the heroes. Happy ending, that's what he's happy ending for.
tarasalk
tarasalk
04 Jul 00:45 # Show original
@Iamliam23: and as for me, there are a lot of muddy moments.
Why was Ryan looking for Amanda?
In what world are the Dessens left?
How to escape from the endless number of copies of people? It's not just Jason, but everyone who's been in the hallway.
Where did Leighton go?
And is it a happy ending at all, it seems that this universe is doomed. More and more people will walk through the worlds and break them.
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
04 Jul 02:16 # Show original
@tarasalk: Yes, an infinite number of clones, decided to leave alone😁
Hidji
Hidji
04 Jul 02:35 # Show original
@tarasalk: After all, Leighton was shown in the last shots, traveling through the worlds further.
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
04 Jul 05:13 # Show original
@tarasalk: Ryan was looking for Amanda..Yes, that's a good question, and most importantly - who is this Ryan? From what world?

With the Dessens, we were just left to figure it out for ourselves: the heroes suffered, the heroes were tired and deserved a good world - some kind of logic.

Those who have been in the corridor are not tied to the world of good Jason, like him, everyone has their own goal, their own world, and when they find it, they will probably encounter copies of themselves.

There is, of course, material for the 2nd part, but I would not continue, because the further the more probabilities there will be and, accordingly, questions to the screenwriters)

tarasalk
tarasalk
04 Jul 22:16 # Show original
@Hidji: This is the second Layton. And there was also the first one :)
tarasalk
tarasalk
04 Jul 22:25 # Show original
@Iamliam23: It seemed to me that Ryan came to Amanda from the world of kind Jason.

There were a lot of people from good Jason's world in the hallway: Ryan, Layton, Charlie.

And I would have continued. It just begs for something like the apocalypse from all these trips between worlds. And then some kind of return in time, to the moment of creation of the cube.

Iamliam23
Iamliam23
05 Jul 03:38 # Show original
@tarasalk: If the same Ryan had come to Amanda, it would have been a stupid blunder - how could 2 different people (Amanda and evil Jason), with completely different motivations, think about the same world out of millions of worlds?
Hidji
Hidji
05 Jul 04:09 # Show original
@tarasalk: this is the same Leighton from the zero world of good Jason, to whom evil Jason showed a cube for investment, offering to travel. I don't know what else we're talking about.
the_Priest
the_Priest
05 Jul 11:08 # Show original
@Iamliam23: Apparently, according to the authors of the series, there is only one prosperous, technologically advanced world in the entire multiverse, and if you want to get to a place where everything is good, you get exclusively into it)))
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
05 Jul 12:25 #
@the_Priest: 😀
tarasalk
tarasalk
05 Jul 22:42 # Show original
@Hidji: There was also Leighton from the world of evil Jason, who went to the cube in the wake of good Jason and Amanda.
albinka_
albinka_
08 Jul 08:27 # Show original
@tarasalk: Also, by the way, the question is, why didn't any Amanda get into the world of Good Jason? Did all 100% of Amand die or choose another world? Well, it can't be like that. The answer is one: it's just that in this world, according to the plot, she was no longer needed.
dett
dett
13 Jul 01:41 # Show original
@Iamliam23: I also have a question, who is this Ryan? Previously, there were suggestions in the comments that Amanda from the world of evil Jason and Ryan from the world of good Jason got into the same reality. And if this is the Ryan, how did he find out about Amanda, because in his world she's just a psychologist. Or am I confused at the end)
Qtilla
Qtilla
26 Jun 09:59 # Show original
A crowd of mourners of clones is cool) It's a pity that everything ended so quickly, I would have looked at their adventures more
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
27 Jun 12:13 # Show original
@Qtilla: we'll see in an hour
Flanker
Flanker
26 Jun 10:29 # Show original
At the beginning, it seemed that the pace of narration was too slow for the final episode, but then it spun and spun.
I liked the chat with the Jason crowd, ours turned out to be as much as 71st.
I liked the ending, it was a purely happy ending, only a live Schrodinger cat is missing for complete happiness. I still have obvious questions.:
Is Ryan at the very end a hint of a sequel?
Did the family choose the same world where Amanda and Ryan are now?
What will the remaining Jacons do in our world?
Hidji
Hidji
26 Jun 20:30 # Show original
@Flanker: they always leave a reserve for the second season).
krook
krook
28 Jun 20:22 # Show original
@Hidji: they can seize power in the world ))
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
27 Jun 03:21 # Show original
@Flanker: Drinking and crying
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
27 Jun 12:14 # Show original
@AtomicTroll: They are already tired of killing each other 😁
torrerro
torrerro
27 Jun 15:22 # Show original
@Flanker: the book is finished, then only the fantasy of the screenwriters, if they decide to continue further.
In general, there are minor discrepancies with the book. Jason 2 did not repent and came with a gun to kill the first one. After a short altercation, Charlie intervened and Jason-1 kills Jason-2 with a knife, only when he was dying he gave the ring and told him to look into the glove compartment where the ampoules were. In the book, the entire narrative is on behalf of Jason-1 and no one else. In the series, of course, everything is more expanded and Jason-2's line in the end was decided to correct a little with remorse and the fact that he helped them. In general, everything was filmed according to the book, then if the series is not closed, then you can turn around at least a thousand Universes, but is it necessary?..
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
28 Jun 00:53 # Show original
@Flanker: I wonder if Ryan in Amanda's world is the same Ryan who was thrown out of the world of good Jason by evil Jason? So the evil Jason, who knew nothing about Amanda's world, and Amanda imagined the same world while in different situations and emotional states? If so, it's such a stupid blunder)
TheroLayfer
TheroLayfer
01 Jul 15:21 # Show original
@Iamliam23: or not a blunder. after all, if he was looking for peace with that Amanda Jason-2.. then one day he found it.. rather, if there is a possibility that there would be Ryan who would look for Amanda, then there would be a reality in which he finds her..
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
01 Jul 15:59 # Show original
@TheroLayfer: It's just that in the series, his motivation to look for Amanda from the world of evil Jason was somehow not prescribed. Hence the question.
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
28 Jun 01:02 # Show original
@Flanker: I think those who are smarter will unite in one group and start looking for evil Jason to negotiate /force them to develop that drug for them again.
skynetua
skynetua
28 Jun 09:49 # Show original
@Flanker: How did Ryan know about Amanda from the world of Jason 2 to look for her?
TheroLayfer
TheroLayfer
01 Jul 15:24 # Show original
@skynetua: it seems that Jason-2 left him some hints in his story, or first he found the original world of Jason-2 (although it would probably be correct to call Jason who made the cube Jason-0)
skynetua
skynetua
01 Jul 16:09 # Show original
@TheroLayfer: so Jason 2 himself couldn't know where she was at that moment)
TheroLayfer
TheroLayfer
03 Jul 06:56 # Show original
@skynetua: Yes, but he also told some pieces of what he is who he is in his native world.. This gives Ryan the motivation to search for Jason's homeworld.2 After finding this world or more information, it is not difficult to go out in search of Amanda. and yes, of course, this was not explained in any way because it was the seed for the second season.
albinka_
albinka_
08 Jul 08:29 # Show original
@TheroLayfer: It is very difficult to find the world that another person has chosen without knowing this person at all. And even to ambush her in a cafe. How much time should it have taken to do such a search.
At most, this is Amanda, fantasized by Ryan according to his ideas about her.. Like "I need a world in which there is a living Amanda who traveled with Jason", but there are also an infinite number of such Amandas.
TheroLayfer
TheroLayfer
11 Jul 01:17 # Show original
@albinka_: if there is a non-zero probability that Ryan finds the same Amanda, then we can always observe the world where it happened.. but will they come up with a convincing motivation for such an event for a potential second season?.
y0u
y0u
15 Jul 03:41 # Show original
The bottom line is that the series explicitly says that there are an infinite number of realities. And there is a reality in which Ryan found Amanda. And there are no copies. They are all original. This is the essence of superposition.
Jizou
Jizou
PRO
26 Jun 11:07 # Show original
A good series, a good ending, but I wonder what will happen to all these remaining Jason, plus there are still a bunch of dead and a certain number of adequate Jason, there are several who clearly went nuts - you can shoot a separate series, how the government dealt with this invasion of Jason)))
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
27 Jun 03:22 # Show original
@Jizou: criminalists will be in Aher
VIRUS
VIRUS
16 Jul 03:35 # Show original
@AtomicTroll: a lot of people will get drunk thinking that they went through the roof)
dasfeuerordal
dasfeuerordal
26 Jun 12:00 # Show original
I'm feeling it. I really liked the series. So many emotions and impressions during these 9 episodes, just like a real journey. I am very glad that Ryan and Amanda ended up in the same world, I will believe that Jason and his family will end up there too. Even if they don't, I hope that they will find a decent world where they can finally live in peace. It was cool.
Gamlet
Gamlet
PRO
26 Jun 13:02 # Show original
A series of missed opportunities.

Nothing happens in the series for 20 minutes - 40 minutes.


And the reason for the denouement is the evil Jason, who previously did what he wanted and when he wanted - just like that he became good.

Sadness.
stevie_why
stevie_why
26 Jun 13:42 # Show original
I would even say a series of missed opportunities, and most likely the novel itself, on the basis of which the series was filmed.
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
27 Jun 03:23 # Show original
@Gamlet: well, he's not exactly a shit person, he realized what he had done when he met himself
mavlytovfagiz
mavlytovfagiz
PRO
04 Jul 17:14 # Show original
@AtomicTroll: moreover, he initially did everything with good intentions!)
He said at the end "I thought you'd like my life"

He's just used to solving everything selfishly because he thinks it's right.
In the audio recording at the end, he said that he realized the need to accept the dreams and needs of other people.
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
05 Jul 15:04 # Show original
@mavlytovfagiz: usually, when they want to do some kind of good deed, they first ask the person if he needs it))
mavlytovfagiz
mavlytovfagiz
PRO
05 Jul 16:01 # Show original
@AtomicTroll: yes, you can ask, but you don't always need a direct question, you can understand without direct questions whether a person needs your goodness or not. It is this character trait that distinguishes the two Jason.
Gamlet
Gamlet
PRO
05 Jul 18:16 # Show original
@mavlytovfagiz: What nonsense are you writing!)) Evil-bad Jason has grown a company in his world in which a woman can be shot at any moment for nothing, and he himself is not that a direct question, but simply beat our Jason to insanity and threw him into his world in this form. And he just killed another one by taking out the trash. So this is not a shit man, but a complete shit man. And he was like that for years, after which, as if in a minute and for no reason, he changed. This is just ridiculous and complete nonsense.))
mavlytovfagiz
mavlytovfagiz
PRO
05 Jul 22:35 # Show original
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diverdm
diverdm
06 Jul 23:52 # Show original
@AtomicTroll: and this one just does it without asking. Remember the episode with the painting at the exhibition. Or with a car for Charlie.
albinka_
albinka_
08 Jul 08:32 # Show original
@mavlytovfagiz: This is called "doing good", which is not necessary for the fuck else, because it is dictated not by altruism, but by personal selfishness.
mavlytovfagiz
mavlytovfagiz
PRO
08 Jul 13:01 # Show original
@albinka_: Yes, I wrote the same thing, after all)
Gamlet
Gamlet
PRO
08 Jul 14:48 # Show original
@mavlytovfagiz:

There was no good there and there is none, so there is nothing to cause.

And it is unclear that you are discussing what kind of "good" - "good" is that what the evil Jason himself said to the good Jason, in an attempt to justify himself? Seriously?

This is not good, but a lie.
m0thman
m0thman
PRO
02 Jul 23:01 # Show original
But it's the same Jason 15 years ago. I mean, he's not 100% evil.
stevie_why
stevie_why
26 Jun 13:41 # Show original
Did someone really like the denouement of the season? Since the appearance of the evil clone doppelgangers, it just got boring to watch. The plot has slipped to the level of the children's cartoon Tutenstein (maybe someone remembers going on Jetix).
ElllaDee
ElllaDee
26 Jun 21:06 # Show original
@stevie_why: the memory is unlocked :D
and so yes, I didn't like the ending, it's kind of sad, even though it's good
id16138560
id16138560
27 Jun 08:24 # Show original
I agree, the last 2 episodes are all too far-fetched. Although the beginning was promising
SmilePS
SmilePS
30 Jun 09:53 # Show original
@stevie_why: It all ended in one season, and that's good, I haven't watched such series for a long time. As always, you can compare it with LOST.
Ooleetka
Ooleetka
14 Jul 10:10 # Show original
@stevie_why: not that it's boring - I laughed out loud :))
mshekspirt
mshekspirt
26 Jun 14:54 # Show original
Damn, I was hoping for a finale that would be different from the book, it seemed a little weak even in the book

I was very hooked by this turn with the Jason crowd, the realization that they are all the first Jason who just wants to join his family.
hey_seattle
hey_seattle
27 Jun 11:07 # Show original
The crowd of Jason's also somehow made me feel uneasy, because they went through some trials harder than "our" Jason to return to his wife and son, and were left without everything, even without capsules
the episode aired 26.06.2024
Jmann
Jmann
26 Jun 15:05 # Show original
7/10. I don't know if I need (and what about) a prod, a complete minik.
The pros are the movement/dynamics of the multiverse concept and the cast.
Cons - an explanation of the concept of the multiverse and the operation of the cube... Bullshit from under the horse, contradicting itself. We tried to get into physics and explanations, and because of this, the more you think about it, the more absurd it is.
To move between worlds, you need to be in an isolated box in a state of superposition, which is achieved by the brain with the help of a drug that turns off areas of self-perception. In fact... it should be a trance. But at the same time, the characters somehow become aware of themselves, walk, move, make decisions and, most importantly, that entering a new universe depends on your thoughts and feelings.
And all this contradicts itself!
Especially considering how "evil" easily returns to the same universe a hundred times without problems (but gg from one thought does not get into a random world! But "angry" jumps back and forth to his home... they would have added to him the invention of an anchor for the chosen world, or something).
Jmann
Jmann
26 Jun 15:07 # Show original
@Jmann: The twist is funny, but if you think about it...
every decision has generated a copy of GG, and there are hundreds of them. OK, we accept, it makes sense. BUT - why is "evil" alone? According to this logic, he also made a bunch of decisions, which should have given rise to a bunch of his doppelgangers, and they should have appeared there too! He didn't get there on the 1st attempt, he said so himself!
The deeper you try to understand the idea, the more paradoxical everything that happens!
Well, the cube.
Logically, the object moves inside the cube. And it's like that, but then he has to move to where, through the logic of creation, there was a gg who created this cube, i.e. in fact they should always appear in the laboratory, in the cube. But in the series, the cube itself moves, or rather, materializes, and to the point of banality, then in the world underground, then in the middle of the ocean, then in the middle of the road. And when they leave the world, the cube stays there! An unknown cube that everyone shits on. The drug should not affect the cube, and the cube is just a cube, it should not move either.
If you try to analyze the nuances of the concept, and not accept "hey, dudes go into the cube and move" - then everything does not fit together at all. If you are trying to explain and invent pseudoscientific explanations, then at least tie them into something digestible, and not contradicting itself.
reddit
reddit
26 Jun 17:51 # Show original
@Jmann: On Reddit, the author of the book replied today that the box appears in secluded places and that anyone can find it. In general, the answer from him is short and not very clear, as for me.
And there is only one "evil Jason", for the sake of the plot.
The topic can be read in r/television
Пракоп
Пракоп
26 Jun 19:41 # Show original
@reddit: I heard a good version of why there is only one scientist.
He knew exactly what kind of world he was going into, he didn't have entanglement multiplied by Amanda. There is no torment of choice - there is no fork. There is clearly one option.
Azra
Azra
26 Jun 21:47 # Show original
@Jmann: It's Blake Crouch. He's in trouble with science. But the ideas and the movement are good, the "Return" will be even more interesting.
-VLDMR-
-VLDMR-
27 Jun 03:02 # Show original
@reddit: Does the box appear in hidden places?) And how was the world when the tsunami hit them? Is the place secluded, just not the right time?)
Jmann
Jmann
27 Jun 03:51 # Show original
@-VLDMR-: and the box in the middle of the highway?)
Jmann
Jmann
27 Jun 03:57 # Show original
@reddit: in general, it was possible to play that the box is also hidden from the observer, i.e. it does not exist in reality (well, like they open the door out of thin air, there is nothing outside), and to see it could only be done under medications (hidden from the observer, it is clear what the essence of the experiment is and what injections are needed for). Then it would be more "understandable ", that no one sees her from others and no one cares. Well, for example, then the trick with finding a box using a compass/gps is more interesting.
In general, GPS is associated with one of the most absurd moments of the show: they explain that the box isolates the contents from EVERYTHING, any signals and radiation, so that nothing affects the object inside, and only then it can be in a state of superposition, but... They're sitting inside a box (closed!), checking the GPS and Jameson is like, Oh, the satellite signal is being picked up, so they're still in this world. WTF the moment is simple, hand-held.
reddit
reddit
27 Jun 07:14 # Show original
@-VLDMR-: from the eyes of others meant
Jmann
Jmann
27 Jun 10:57 # Show original
@Jmann: By the way! I forgot about another dumb moment that burned me out.
Camera. Several episodes in a row show us how Jason monitors the camera on his phone - sometimes in a cafe, then in the kitchen with his family - checks if anyone has left the box... And THEN, SURPRISINGLY, when a hundred doppelgangers come out of there, they forget about it. A gun with blanks, damn it.
And yes, you will say "well, he probably concreted the box, put it away as unnecessary, and then, when he broke it to get a new Ryan, he forgot to put it on... And you'll be right - it's logical... It would be nice if it were shown! You can't hang guns on the wall that don't shoot, the viewer shouldn't think and justify your joints. Show that he has removed the camera, then show the place where the tripod with the camera used to stand, and that he passes by and forgets to put it back on. You put so much emphasis on it during the show, and then you just put the bolt down... 🤦‍♂️
12werre31234
12werre31234
27 Jun 21:54 # Show original
@Jmann: I also thought about it, at least there could be a transfer of personality without a cube, but not a duplication of matter into reality. Because it was the human particles that entered the superposition state and would exit it in physically different coordinates. New particles would not be added to reality, a cube would not appear there, a personality would be replaced, but in the body of a superposition. In addition, not only does every human decision create a new reality, but this is the level of microparticles, each random oscillation of an electron creates a version of reality. And now imagine the number of particles of their movements in time. According to this logic, in infinite variations of worlds there are an infinite number of people/beings who invented this method, so there should be an infinite number of invasions and entropy into each reality a long time ago.

In addition, there should be an infinite number of versions of Jason-1 in the same way, not 100-200, and this is immediately a collapse of reality where there is a cube. Jason 1 and 2 would always come out into it, endless versions of him inventing the cube in an endless variation of his life.
Vilgelmster
Vilgelmster
27 Jun 23:58 # Show original
@reddit: there, in one of the episodes, she was standing in the middle of a busy highway, a fucking secluded place
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
28 Jun 01:39 # Show original
@Jmann: So you can dig into absolutely any fantastic narrative, whether it's the Lord of the Rings or Star Wars or Alien. But the world of this story is what it is, it has certain conventions characteristic of any fantastic narrative, and there are no obvious mistakes. You either like it or you don't. And sit here and be boring about every little thing..Damn man, do you really not value your free time so much that you spend it on this boring?
TheroLayfer
TheroLayfer
03 Jul 06:59 # Show original
@12werre31234: we can only see those realities that are available for observation. if there was something going on in the reality that Jason got into that the director didn't want us to see, we simply wouldn't be observers of this reality.
Xpillz
Xpillz
04 Jul 01:00 # Show original
@Iamliam23: there are no mistakes in others, bioweapons have been invented and it shred everything. Star Wars is a children's fairy tale for more than the Lord of the Rings, which by the way is fantasy, not fiction. Another point is that this work speaks like a scientific language, but it does not pull at science fiction. And this is not boring, the series is interesting, but with a weak ending, because the authors could not come up with a good ending that would answer all the questions.
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
04 Jul 05:03 # Show original
@Xpillz: There may be no mistakes in others, but this is some kind of raw Universe, there are a lot of murky moments: for example, why black liquid (the same bioweapon) did it affect the jockeys, how did they handle it? Where did they get it at all? why does Prometheus jockey drink liquid at the beginning of the film and his body just disintegrates, rather than being infected by someone else, as it was with a man in the same film?

Fantasy is a kind of fiction.

It's quite like science fiction, it's just too complicated a topic, hence the many questions and the opportunity to dig into the little things indefinitely. My advice to you is just forget it and have fun)
diverdm
diverdm
06 Jul 23:58 # Show original
@Jmann: This episode was outside
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
27 Jun 03:27 # Show original
@Jmann: are you sure that he gets into that very universe, and not into one of its endless variations? I'm pretty sure that this twist with "true" Jason is just a fiction, perhaps in some of the variations he got into that very original world, but it's not necessarily that this is exactly what happened. Maybe this is an absolutely identical world, where the dollar exchange rate is just a little bit different on Wednesday of such and such a date of such a year
Jmann
Jmann
27 Jun 03:51 # Show original
@AtomicTroll: well, the point is that the series presents it as the original world and the original Jameson, where of all the variations, he was the first to get to Daniella (as she says, anyone could have been at the party, But it was you, and right now it was you.) I thought to the end that there would be some kind of twist in the finale, where this Jameson would be 99.9% original, but then there would be a conversation with Daniella about something, and he would slip up and it would turn out that it was again Not him.
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
27 Jun 03:57 # Show original
@Jmann: judging by the crooked laws of physics of this series, the chance that he got where he needed to is just scanty. It just seems to me that no one made it difficult for the audience and gave a happy ending.
Jmann
Jmann
27 Jun 04:02 # Show original
@AtomicTroll: That's the trouble. On the one hand, they tried to complicate it by explaining physics and riveting hundreds of copies, explaining their appearance, and on the other hand, they did not complicate it and gave a happy ending, whereas there are too many questions about the concept itself. Here it was necessary to go either the way of sliding (here is a device, as well as how it works xs, simple, take it for granted), or blow up the brain, as in darkness. And here came out half-cooked fish or meat, neither here nor there. Too stupid for a wow effect, and too stupid from the point of view of physics explanations, like physics itself (in general, Jameson's character does not pull at a scientist at all, they prescribed him a position, gave him a couple of words like superposition, quantum entanglement, multiverse - and that's it, he's a physicist.
The author is clearly too stupid to write deeply and meaningfully, but at the same time considers himself too smart, so he tries to use clever concepts, but this makes everything look even stupider than it could be.
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
28 Jun 01:31 # Show original
@Jmann: Have you never watched/read anything before?) This is such a genre, it is not written by physicists or pharmacologists, but by writers guided by their imagination and some basic scientific ideas.
Naturally, there may be some inaccuracies, but this is not so important - any of the fantastic worlds ever invented by writers has a bunch of conventions that the author came up with, these worlds just need to be accepted as they are.

There are no obvious mistakes in the series, but steaming because of the way they depicted the passage into the tunnel is somehow ungrateful.
Everything was done as it is, because it is easier to perceive it that way. If they were, say, immersed in a trance, and walked through the tunnel only in their minds alone and confused, and then opening the door, they would wake up in a cube in a new world - it would not be so spectacular and spectacular.
dett
dett
13 Jul 01:47 # Show original
@Jmann: This is the weak point of all pseudo-scientific stories
Amyinthetardis
Amyinthetardis
26 Jun 18:17 # Show original
I really liked the series, from the point of view of morality and emotions it was interesting to watch, because the other Jason (who are not completely crazy) you have terrible empathy, but in fact there is no normal way out of the situation. I hope they will create for themselves such a medicine and also settle down to live in the worlds. I'm sorry that it happened to them (him)
Pravo_helena
Pravo_helena
26 Jun 18:27 # Show original
@Amyinthetardis: Well, we need to take Daniela through the corridors, multiply her there and bring Danielle to everyone 😅
re_Inferno
re_Inferno
27 Jun 01:23 # Show original
Jason's communism. Get your Daniella according to the coupon
krook
krook
28 Jun 20:31 # Show original
@Pravo_helena: and for some, a couple of Daniels at once))
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
27 Jun 03:28 # Show original
@Amyinthetardis: I think it's necessary to seal the box behind you, because as soon as the government or the special services understand what's going on, they'll start doing it too. And someone will guess for sure, there's a whole crowd of clones left and a lot of corpses of the same guy
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
27 Jun 12:50 # Show original
@AtomicTroll: But what will happen if the government gets to Cuba can be seen in the series counterpart))
id432499826
id432499826
29 Jun 10:18 # Show original
@Some shit: Well. yes, the counterpart is much cooler and more thoughtful, although the basis of the plot is hackneyed!
Gaowuwei
Gaowuwei
26 Jun 18:38 # Show original
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Ooleetka
Ooleetka
14 Jul 11:06 # Show original
@Gaowuwei: you were wasted, I agree with you, the last two episodes were just ridiculous already :)
It_is_different
It_is_different
26 Jun 19:06 # Show original
A good ending. There will be no continuation, as I understand it?
Juullietta
Juullietta
26 Jun 21:11 # Show original
It just seems to me that the final remained open to the possibilities of the new season. Ryan found Amanda for a reason, something they will still mix up together, well, it's interesting that this is how the family found a normal world from the first time without sores or some hidden gesture, three people could think of something different for themselves…
Tiinsa
Tiinsa
27 Jun 17:38 # Show original
@Juullietta: There's some kind of hat with Ryan and Amanda in general. Even if you consider that evil Jason told Ryan about Amanda. I knew where she stayed - only our right kind Jason who is Jason )
dett
dett
13 Jul 01:51 # Show original
@Tiinsa: Yeah, I agree. and as we see from the series, sometimes it's not enough just to think "where that Amanda is from the fragments of that Jason's memory", yet somehow you need to have a more weighty reason to get into the right world. And Ryan did not cross paths with the good Jason to find out where Amanda stayed and whether she survived at all) evil Jason did not know at that time
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
27 Jun 12:52 # Show original
@It_is_different: Will be. A second season has already been announced. But it's not clear why
DiKEY999
DiKEY999
27 Jun 18:54 # Show original
Where did you read the news that there will be a second season?
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
27 Jun 23:14 # Show original
@DiKEY999: I don't remember, it caught my eye somewhere. But it is not indicated anywhere that the series is closed
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
28 Jun 01:44 #
@КакойтоХрен: Не фантазируй, если бы официально продлили, все сми бы уже раструбили.
Вот вчерашняя мм статья на Economics, там пишут что официально сериал еще не продлили: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/dark-matter-season-2-is-a-sequel-in-the-works-heres-what-joel-edgerton-revealed/articleshow/111321565.cms?from=mdr
Kentavr
Kentavr
29 Jun 05:14 # Show original
@Some shit: Maybe it wasn't in our world.
Пракоп
Пракоп
26 Jun 19:39 # Show original
I liked the ending. Yes, the series could have been shortened, but even if it wasn't complete calm, it was needed, a little respite before the storm. The moment of the Jason's farewell, the cube has a very good scene. Obviously Amanda and Ryan are in the same world, but why is he looking for her and which of the Ryans made the new drug? And the final of the chosen world remained open, but with a big hint of the same utopian Chicago with Amanda and Ryan.
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
27 Jun 03:30 # Show original
@Prakop: yeah, and then the divorce from the perfect family)
byplayz
byplayz
26 Jun 19:58 # Show original
It's good that everything is fine 👌🏻🙌🙌🙌🙌😃we put 7 out of 10 🐈⬛🐈⬛🐈⬛cats


I hope they won't squeeze and milk the idea, although they really like such fiction.
Hidji
Hidji
26 Jun 20:55 # Show original
The peak of interest was in episode 8, that's where I didn't really want to find fault with anything. And the ending is... well, what it is, almost happy-ending, albeit with hints of a possible sequel. And unexpectedly fast compared to the situation at the beginning of this series, when it seemed that the season would end on cliffhanger. In general, if you put aside the long debate about the cube and the many jambs associated with it and movements, the series is pretty good.
Juullietta
Juullietta
26 Jun 21:06 # Show original
But the season left a lot of different feelings behind…
I feel so sorry for all the other Jason, and it was a wise decision to let her choose for herself. I hope they find a suitable world for themselves and will be happy as before 😌
Oksana_Gol
Oksana_Gol
26 Jun 21:14 # Show original
I wasn't even hoping for a happy ending. But the series ended on a good note and even left the groundwork for a sequel. It turns out that Ryan ended up in Amanda's universe after all. I liked that the evil Jason repented in the end. Our Jason's interaction with his family in this series is at the very heart: so heartfelt and touching. There were, of course, flaws in the series, but I really liked it 👍🏻
Ann6556
Ann6556
26 Jun 22:29 # Show original
I read the ending in the book, so I wasn't surprised. The ending is boring enough, but correct. A series where all the action falls on the penultimate episodes is also not bad. Of all such series, this one managed to be implemented very efficiently. 10/10
id140630607
id140630607
26 Jun 22:57 # Show original
A great series, with meanings, now such a rarity, judging by the fact that the series has a pause icon - it implies a continuation, let's hope...
gkalian
gkalian
27 Jun 00:33 # Show original
Surprisingly, unlike the Pines, where the twist disappointed me already for 5 or 6 episodes, this series managed to upset only at the end. Although, when I found out. that it's based on Crouch's book, I was more skeptical about the series.

There are already too many unanswered questions, everything is too simple for the sake of the series. I'm not sure that a sequel is really needed here, such a boring ending is better than some kind of forced story.
AnnaAV
AnnaAV
PRO
27 Jun 01:17 # Show original
Overall, the series is not bad, it was interesting to watch the development of events. I liked the crowd of Jason's at the end, it was cool to shoot.
Well, there is a reserve for the second season, they can develop it, so I hope for a continuation))
abrosimovavv
abrosimovavv
27 Jun 02:33 # Show original
My mother is a woman, just started watching, 70+ clones, what's going on at all😂🫣🤔
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
27 Jun 12:57 # Show original
@abrosimovavv: Do you start watching the series from the last episode? 😁
diverdm
diverdm
07 Jul 00:09 # Show original
@KakoitoHren: but there are such people - they start the book from the last page)
M0rt14
M0rt14
27 Jun 02:59 # Show original
it turns out that Daniela believed the one who first explained to her what had happened, i.e. it could have been any Jason
-VLDMR-
-VLDMR-
27 Jun 03:07 #
@M0rt14: Не удивлюсь, если при перепросмотре так и окажется: у кого-нибудь не там шрам, царапина или не та резинка на пальце.
В целом не без минусов, но вполне достойно. А вот как с продолжением (а по рейтингам вполне).. Тот же первый сезон сериала "Сосны" по Краучу был очень даже хорош. А как закончился первоисточник - лучше не вспоминать. Как и многие сериалы, где закончился первоисточник.
12werre31234
12werre31234
28 Jun 15:33 # Show original
@M0rt14: yes, it doesn't matter, they are all the original Jason, equivalent, they just showed us on behalf of the lucky guy who first sat down on her ears
M0rt14
M0rt14
28 Jun 22:25 # Show original
@12werre31234: I mean the same thing, we can assume that the lottery was played after all
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
27 Jun 03:36 # Show original
The commentators think that they have chosen some kind of cool world, like Amanda's utopia, but it seems to me that there is something boring there, the family is without imagination, despite all the extraordinary things that are happening. I think they chose a world where everything is the same, only a little better.

It's a good series, I've arranged the finale. I doubt that it can have a direct sequel, unless the spin-off is filmed with other characters no longer according to the book.

PS: I was wondering where I would go myself, it's not as easy as it seems. It's just that utopia is boring, it's expensive to mess up.
raziel2011
raziel2011
27 Jun 03:57 # Show original
@AtomicTroll: apple always prolongs notable series, even those based on books where the plot is finished. Take a look.
(But wait two years)
DiKEY999
DiKEY999
27 Jun 07:20 # Show original
For example, what were such series?
DmitryYakushev
DmitryYakushev
PRO
27 Jun 09:45 # Show original
@AtomicTroll: there's Crouch himself in the screenwriters, nothing prevents you from shooting at least a thousand direct sequels.
SmilePS
SmilePS
30 Jun 09:56 #
@AtomicTroll: Так как дверь открывал подросток, думаю в этом мире у всех девушек большие сиськи.
ezzo
ezzo
27 Jun 08:56 # Show original
Overall, a good ending, but I didn't understand why Rain1 was looking for Amanda and how did he know about her at all?
Vilgelmster
Vilgelmster
28 Jun 00:05 # Show original
@ezzo: It can be explained here. Let's say people from another world have some invisible properties that can be tracked and he found a way to
DmitryYakushev
DmitryYakushev
PRO
27 Jun 09:44 # Show original
After the eighth, a series of inflated expectations turned out. It ended up being pretty toothless, but the series still came out great.
januarism
januarism
27 Jun 09:52 # Show original
The series turned out to be one big psychotherapy session – it's good where we're not. A lot of useful thoughts about his own choices and lives, taking responsibility, etc. "Evil" Jason just had to go to therapy and cope with a midlife crisis :)
And so he literally turned out to be a meme
Irena_Turner
Irena_Turner
27 Jun 10:05 # Show original
I liked the series. In general, there is something to think about.
The scene when they finally decided to go to another world and other Jansons let them go - why didn't the other Jansons go in search of a better world for themselves? Since our main Jason is already winning, he is with his family. Others even caused more emotions, especially when one of them shouted "why did he get everything" and so on

It will be interesting to see the second season if they reveal how Amanda and Ryan are doing)
Pravo_helena
Pravo_helena
27 Jun 10:10 # Show original
@Irena_Turner: The other Jason's don't have any more vials of drugs.
Irena_Turner
Irena_Turner
27 Jun 10:12 # Show original
Ours had an almost full suitcase that he could give them.
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
27 Jun 13:03 # Show original
@Irena_Turner: 40 ampoules per hundred people
musicliveinus
musicliveinus
27 Jun 17:46 # Show original
@Irena_Turner: I also thought so at first, like give it to everyone, and stay at home yourself, but then I remembered that there wasn't enough, and I'd have to live with dozens of other Jason's. Therefore, there is nothing left but to leave by ourselves. Or (at the time of writing, I came up with) mb it was necessary, together with the evil Jason, to simply make new ampoules and distribute them to the remaining ones?
alavitka
alavitka
28 Jun 02:52 #
@КакойтоХрен: Блин, раз злоДжей раскаялся, можно вернуть Райана, у которого уже есть похожая формула и который, как мы видим, таки довёл её до ума, когда узнал цель. Возвращаем "нашего" Райана и делаем достаточно состава для всех.
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
28 Jun 02:55 # Show original
@alavitka: the evil one gave away all the ampoules, but if there is a prod, it turns out that not everything)) well, either he will create it himself
alavitka
alavitka
28 Jun 03:07 #
@КакойтоХрен: Я имею ввиду, вместо того, чтобы отдать 40 ампул семейству (которому судя по всему так много не сдалось) он мог использовать три, чтобы вернуть Райана, который мог бы сделать больше. И вообще разошлись бы те по другим мирам, а не эти сбежали. Хотя учитывая трупы, может так и лучше. Но казус с сотней копий одного человека в одном мире всё равно остаётся и не может не вызвать проблем. Но их просто замели под коврик, как Лейтона из мира злоДжея.
Hidji
Hidji
28 Jun 03:45 # Show original
@alavitka: The last shots: Ryan made the drug and then traveled the worlds himself, even found Amanda somehow. So it's not a fact that they could have crossed paths, they would have diverged in reality).
alavitka
alavitka
09 Jul 01:48 #
@Hidji: Ой, ну это вообще левой пяткой сценариста решается. Мне кажется, Райана как и прочих показали, чтобы заявить, что у всех всё ок (кроме тучи джейсонов)
Hidji
Hidji
09 Jul 01:51 # Show original
@alavitka: mmm... Okay, I agree). Moreover, here many questions were solved precisely through this very heel and nothing, the series as a whole did not merge from this, like many of the latter).
dett
dett
13 Jul 01:58 # Show original
@musicliveinus: so Ryan made the ampoules for Jason, and, as we remember, he was killed in the first series, by the campaign. And the other Ryan, who was close to such an ampoule, he fused into another world. Only if you go looking for him again and cooperate, but here's the thing...
musicliveinus
musicliveinus
13 Jul 02:23 # Show original
@dett: Wait, did Ryan make ampoules for evil Jason? I don't remember when it was mentioned
dett
dett
13 Jul 02:48 # Show original
@musicliveinus: So, you planted a grain of doubt in me. I will not say what I got confused about, then I will reconsider these points.
Hidji
Hidji
13 Jul 04:16 # Show original
@musicliveinus: It was mentioned at least when he revealed himself to the local Ryan before he was fused to another world. And before that, too.
dett
dett
13 Jul 09:26 # Show original
@musicliveinus: Yes, I looked at it now, when they met at the exhibition for the first time, Ryan asked if Jason had seen his compositions, well, he said that he had done a lot for you and Velosi without knowing anything. Plus, yes, then Jay said that another Ryan did it.
musicliveinus
musicliveinus
13 Jul 13:19 # Show original
@dett: then yes, bummer with ampoules)
DeadDanny
DeadDanny
27 Jun 12:21 # Show original
It's a great series. Of course, there is something to get to in terms of logic, but it was interesting and original.

P.S. I've been thinking about the number of ampoules. With the help of a cube, they can be "duped" like in computer games. For example, a hero can put 40 ampoules in front of him and make 2 decisions: take only 10 with him, leaving 30 on the ground, or take all 40 with him. The one who decided to take 40 can move to the world where he decided to leave 30 on earth. And now he has 70. You can repeat indefinitely :D
alavitka
alavitka
28 Jun 02:51 #
@DeadDanny: По дороге создавая ещё больше Джейсонов... А то маловато как-то! =))
except
except
28 Jun 19:30 # Show original
@DeadDanny: There is a better plan. The one who left the amulets waits for the one who did not leave to come for them, kills him, and as a result he has 80 amulets and the number of heroes has not increased. Otherwise, it turns out to be a financial pyramid, where there are still 40 ampoules per person, but they go to one person, and the rest have 10 left.
DeadDanny
DeadDanny
28 Jun 20:08 # Show original
Wouldn't someone who was going to be killed realize that his other version would try to kill him if he was considering such a decision? It is unlikely that he will come knowing this))
MeMori
MeMori
27 Jun 13:22 # Show original
I didn't like the ending at all, since the previous episode, all these clones began to piss me off. I was upset that they had made a reserve for the second season, I hoped that they would have time to deal with the clones during this series and finish everything with dignity.
LuM_E
LuM_E
27 Jun 13:57 # Show original
The ending was kind of dull, there was no wow effect. Everything is clear, the idyll is almost there. But in general, the series turned out to be interesting. And finished. Is it possible to bring Ryan to the main role?

I accept travel to parallel worlds as fiction and as a given for this story. The most important thing for me is the motivation of the characters, their actions and awareness. Again, everything is clear here.
Sich666
Sich666
27 Jun 14:04 # Show original
A great series, at the moment the best thing that came out of this year's new products.
sunshine_lika
sunshine_lika
27 Jun 17:05 # Show original
Not a bad ending, but there are plans for the second season
ArtDm
ArtDm
PRO
27 Jun 17:42 # Show original
Am I confused? Is the family left with the "first" kidnapped Jason?
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
27 Jun 23:16 #
@ArtDm: да
SmilePS
SmilePS
30 Jun 10:00 #
@ArtDm: Все Джейсоны первые.
snorkelle
snorkelle
27 Jun 18:10 # Show original
And I don't mind that there was a sequel. If they find a screenwriter with a fantasy, it will be interesting to find out how the problem of Jason's clones will be solved, what will happen to the "evil" Jason, how the family will settle in the new world, whether Ryan will return... well, you can come up with a few more lines, there is also a female clone of a friend from a world where bird-like creatures have captured everything - too In general, if you have a stormy imagination, you can still wind up anyone. We'll see...
hello_world
hello_world
27 Jun 20:38 # Show original
The theme of the series gives a lot of space for options, the screenwriters can roam around. Personally, I was imagining a slightly different scenario. And I wanted to read a novel by Blake Crouch. I wonder how accurately the book was adapted. I liked the series. The finale is open, I would watch the sequel.
Alexandra4440
Alexandra4440
27 Jun 22:41 # Show original
Oh my God, it's top! What a series. What a beauty! Just thank you!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
alavitka
alavitka
27 Jun 22:55 #
Неожиданная концовка. Сволочь раскаялась? Вот что батог животворящий делает! Хотя немного натянуто в смысле выкинуть Райана к херам в другой мир, втянуть сюда чужого и потом раскаяться от того, что оказывается его альтер-эго пострадало?
И это, а ничего что в том мире останется тонна Джейсонов? Как они с документами проблему разрулят? Это почему-то бросили, как неважное.

Но в целом спасибо, что на позитивной ноте закончили. Даже вспомнили почти всех покинутых персонажей. Блэр всё же ушла из насекомого постапа. Доун похоже решалась тоже путешествовать. А может, ждала хоть кого-то и этим кем-то возможно станет Блэр. Райан воспроизвёл состав... Только зачем он искал Аманду? Которая кстати с местной Доун сидит? И что за отсылка с Лейтоном? "Безумный макс"? А кто там был "генерал"? Это же тот, который из "нашего" мира, продолжает довольный путешествовать?

А музыка, когда они заходят в ящик семейством, очень сильно напомнила мелодию из "Через тернии к звёздам" =)) https://music.yandex.ru/album/19331196/track/93704375

Кстати, если кому-то не хватило идейного посыла в фильме или захочется позитивного взгляда на ту же дилемму (вот прям один в один сожаления злоДжея и попадание в альт-версию, где это реализовано), рекомендую старый фильм "Я, опять я и снова я". Те же яйца, только без умных терминов, мрачняка и топорного деления на добро и зло.
dett
dett
13 Jul 02:03 # Show original
@alavitka: It seems to me that the evil Jason began to repent and realize his stupidity after another Jason told him about the death of the same Daniella from the world of evil GG. But with Ryan, too, there is some kind of misunderstanding) Plus, did Amanda not recognize him or pretended not to? And Leighton came from our world, yes, who bought ampoules for travel and is now coming off)
Liza
Liza
28 Jun 00:21 # Show original
I liked that they showed that not all the Jason's became finished, cruel, aggressive and murderers, and around the cube they showed those who remained humane and accepted Daniella's choice. Even "evil Jason" was made a little human in the end, not quite udot.

Emotionally, the previous two episodes were more suspenseful than this one, now I'm waiting for the second season, Amanda and Ryan's line is very interesting, and what kind of world did Charlie choose

What 71+ Jason's will do probably won't be shown (how and with what they pay in other worlds), and how people (the police) will treat several identical corpses in different places of the city, too, but it's a pity, it would also be interesting)
Grevon
Grevon
28 Jun 00:27 # Show original
Yeah, the police will have a lot of questions about a bunch of corpses
AlexBest115
AlexBest115
PRO
28 Jun 00:45 # Show original
I would like to see them all in the world of Utopia in the second season
РиаНеймлесс
РиаНеймлесс
28 Jun 07:24 # Show original
"Tell me again, who is it?"
- My god, I told you: my husband is Ivan Vasilyevich Bunsha. Now you'll be cured, alcoholic!
- That's wonderful! Who's that?
- My husband, Ivan Vasilyevich Bunsha.
"So, do you have two husbands?"
- Come on, two.
- And both Bunshi?
- Both!
albinka_
albinka_
28 Jun 12:32 # Show original
I liked the series as I watched it, although it raised questions and made me think. But the end is kind of far-fetched. I realized that I don't have a drop of empathy for the chosen Jason, because he's just one of a bunch of the same Jason.
A similar dilemma was fucking played out in the episode of Doctor Who The Girl Who Waited — Episode 10 of season 6. That's just a tough, tear-wringing moral choice.
And here, for me personally, it felt like just some kind of set of NPCs.
Well, won't Daniela be tormented by whether she chose the right Jason if he subsequently behaves somehow "wrong"?, yes, we also, as viewers, do not know whether she chose the right one (the one we have been following all this time).
The final cut with happy endings to the tune and in a brighter color scheme than the whole series is some kind of cliche.
I am very happy for everyone who got to the final, and who is delighted, but I felt rather disappointed myself. After such a "vinaigrette olivier" I fear the second season, if there is one.
Paramelion
Paramelion
29 Jun 10:09 # Show original
@albinka_: No, everything is normal, in fact, over if you discard all the theories of quantum physics. Daniella chose the first person who contacted her, it could have been anyone. That's why she said she was giving up the lottery. And if we take the drama of the series, then everything is on the level. And the struggle for Daniella with distraught versions, and a bunch of seeing-off versions. Everything that needed to be shown here.
dett
dett
13 Jul 02:09 # Show original
@albinka_: in fact, for Daniella, it doesn't matter which of the variations of the stolen Jason will stay with her, since they are all her husband at the time of the substitution at the beginning of the series. For her, the alien Jason is just a changeling from another version of the world.
Lisiа
Lisiа
PRO
28 Jun 14:44 # Show original
An incredibly interesting series, keeps you in suspense, I didn't want to turn off for a minute with the words "boredom". Everything is very cool! I would like to watch another season)
oldbk
oldbk
28 Jun 14:48 # Show original
At the very end of the episode, when they showed an endless corridor with doors, I wanted to see how the door opens and comes out... an intrigue for the second season.
Candramelekh
Candramelekh
PRO
29 Jun 01:01 # Show original
In general, it will do. In fact, it would be much more interesting for me to look at those who worked with the evil doppelganger, what kind of people they were who coolly failed his wife, what they were doing, why they turned out to be like that
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
29 Jun 12:04 # Show original
@Candramelekh: to whom exactly? Leighton died trying to catch up with the fugitives and traveling through the worlds. Amanda was with us almost all the episodes, too. The rest are just stupid mercenaries
id432499826
id432499826
29 Jun 10:27 # Show original
after Rick and Morty, it's not like that anymore.... Don't mess with time. Don't joke, bitch, with time! And boom boom all these Jacen feet (((
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
29 Jun 12:06 # Show original
@id432499826: Jay probably wasn 't watching 🥲
6o4ka
6o4ka
PRO
29 Jun 23:10 # Show original
Awesome ending) Now the whole family will run around the worlds, and at the same time the rest of the characters too - Blair, Leighton, maybe Ryan and Amanda will also come up with something))
Surprisingly, in the end, the Jacons finally came to their senses (all but one) and let the family through. And then they arranged a safari for each other in that estate.

To be honest, I propose to end the series on such a positive note, as the Constellation was closed.
Further possible branches of the plot will just be sucking out of your finger
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
30 Jun 00:23 # Show original
Oh, it's officially closed now. That's good👍
LuM_E
LuM_E
30 Jun 11:54 # Show original
@Some Shit: I support it! The Jason story is over👌
Nizhona
Nizhona
30 Jun 23:32 # Show original
I really hope that this season will end, in principle, the final was not so bad, I expected the worst... It looks like Ryan and Manda ended up in the same world after all, but now I wonder why he was looking for her... It turns out that now a crowd of families with suitcases of syringes will walk along the corridors and look for suitable worlds for themselves?..))
ZRaoulDuke
ZRaoulDuke
PRO
01 Jul 18:05 # Show original
The creaking gate was certainly not enough )
M0rt14
M0rt14
02 Jul 01:40 # Show original
Is there any information that the series was closed?
ninon92
ninon92
PRO
06 Jul 15:25 # Show original
@M0rt14: No, there is no such information.
id22246399
id22246399
PRO
02 Jul 08:31 # Show original
Well, to be honest, I didn't have enough emotions, before that everything was very slow, it's unclear, the end seems to be good, but there are so many unresolved questions left. Therefore, if you rate it three out of five)
MiracleGG
MiracleGG
02 Jul 14:07 # Show original
The series is cool, but the ending is too "sweet" for me personally I expected something more serious, so that we would think and wonder if Jason was the one with the family, in general, I wanted a more open and harsh ending. But in general, the series is good.
ElBarto92
ElBarto92
02 Jul 14:10 # Show original
The spirit is an hour-long baba melodrama about love mimicking a ten-hour fiction with a leaky plot, where 90% of the time nothing happens.
spirka
spirka
02 Jul 18:34 # Show original
Guys, tell me, I didn't quite figure out what kind of anomaly caused so many Jason to appear? In general, this is at least theoretically understandable. If possible, in simple words, state your version.
andreyck
andreyck
02 Jul 18:41 # Show original
@spirka: the creators of the dick laid on physics, that's what explains it
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
03 Jul 19:48 # Show original
@spirka: being in the cube, they multiply every time they make different decisions, so all the Jason's are original and kind. Before the kidnapping, they were one. We can say that in part - this corresponds to some laws of theoretical physics, but for the sake of the series and the plot, it is shown as it was convenient for the authors
Xpillz
Xpillz
04 Jul 00:42 # Show original
@Some shit: thoughts to ponder.1 Jason enters the cube and makes one decision. At what point does parallelization occur? If 1 Jason took the drug and is in the cube, then should he see other copies of himself or not? He's already in superposition. Initially, it seems that parallel universes always exist"in parallel" or are they constantly randomly parallelized? It's just that the appearance of hundreds of Jason in 1 universe is stupid, because if our Jason was parallelized, then at some point so many Jason's should have come out of the box that there would be no place on the planet and they would fly into space. Or the universe has some kind of self-preservation mechanism. If there is, then most likely none of Jason would have appeared. There are even more questions, it was me who threw up the first thing that came to mind
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
04 Jul 02:14 # Show original
@Xpillz: This is not mathematics that can be proved. This is quantum theoretical physics and how it actually works, we know only approximately, and the series uses only some of its laws, while ignoring many obvious laws and does not explain much to us, leaving it for reflection, guesses and theories
Lighthouse012
Lighthouse012
Today, 00:23 # Show original
@spirka: each exit from the box potentially created many scenarios for the development of events. For example, the ice world. Some Jason came out of the box and froze. Someone stretched out the night, but did not dig out the box. Someone dug it up, but wanted to keep warm so much that it was easier to understand from the experiment with Schrodinger's cat that it was higher in a new world, where, for example, a fire). The cat is put in a box with an ampoule of poison. As long as the box is closed, the outcome is not clear. But as soon as we open the box, we get two outcomes: the cat is dead (the ampoule with poison was broken), the cat is alive (the ampoule is intact). But in fact, there can be many possible outcomes. The cat died in the left corner of the box, in the right, he died on his back, he died on his stomach, he died on his side. The cat survived and when the box was opened, he was sitting, he was lying, he was sleeping, he was scratching the wall, he was burping fur, he jumped out sharply, which scared Schrodinger, dropped the box and finished himself off with poison. There are an infinite number of possible outcomes. Hence the endless number of Jason
bpGusar
bpGusar
02 Jul 22:41 # Show original
what an absurdly idiotic series this is. Sorry for the time spent
kladdenbuch
kladdenbuch
03 Jul 16:26 # Show original
All the Jason's will gather and organize a UVI))))
tarasalk
tarasalk
04 Jul 00:35 # Show original
I was expecting something more epic. It turns out that this universe is doomed. This cube technology will become more and more accessible, people will walk around each other and cause chaos.
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
04 Jul 02:18 # Show original
@tarasalk: There's a smart Jay who decides everything
Xpillz
Xpillz
04 Jul 00:52 # Show original
It turned out a little weak, but 7 can be put. The issue of materialization of the cube is the most urgent. But if we assume that the cube materializes only at the moment of opening the door, then the cube must also be in superposition. But he is not in a superposition, only what is inside him is in a superposition. Then the cube must always exist in all universes. But if a cube has not been invented in a particular universe, how will it appear there? If in 1 universe Jason came up with a cube, then there must be other universes where other people came up with a cube and all the planets should be hung with cubes, and somewhere 2 people should have come up with a cube. In general, I think this is the main unresolved issue that kills this work as science fiction. If it's about love and like what's the difference, then let the authors go fuck themselves. We have raised an interesting topic, but it is not clear how it is there, so come up with an interesting version for yourself.
Lighthouse012
Lighthouse012
Today, 00:16 # Show original
@Xpillz: A slight misunderstanding of the principle of operation. The cube does not need to be invented. The very movement creates this very cube. Like with Schrodinger's cat. If we look at the end of the experiment, we will see that in world one there is a box and a dead cat, in world 2 there is a box and a live cat. Now we look at the reason. There is a world where they are going to conduct an experiment. It has a box and a live cat. And there is nothing else yet. An experiment has been performed and two boxes and two cats are immediately created. As strange as it may sound, but the box exists and does not exist in all worlds at the same time. This box is synchronized only by time and a point in space
Gordey
Gordey
04 Jul 11:46 # Show original
The ending, of course, is vanilla, but I'm glad that "evil" Jason realized everything, and the rest (even if not all) too. Otherwise, it could have spun indefinitely.
But from a scientific point of view, of course, there are a lot of illogicalities. But it's interesting. Once
Mirzoevshama
Mirzoevshama
04 Jul 14:54 # Show original
Oh, of course the ending is amazing.
The series is generally not bad.
Красный_пион
Красный_пион
04 Jul 21:47 # Show original
I liked the series as a whole, especially episodes 7 and 8. Regarding the ending: it seems to me that in a series involving movements among universes, it is very difficult to shoot an ending that will suit everyone. Sometimes such a tangle gets tangled that even the screenwriters or the author are no longer able to untangle it. The same series Darkness, where time travel and an alternate universe - the ending was merged. I've just resigned myself and I don't expect something wow at the end from such series.
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
04 Jul 23:11 # Show original
@Krasny_pion: I agree, but what a thrill in the process)
Blackmeser
Blackmeser
06 Jul 07:29 #
А ведь всего этого можно было избежать, просто нужно было не закрывать дверь ящика в мире с семьёй.
Lighthouse012
Lighthouse012
Today, 00:11 # Show original
@Blackmeser: A fundamental misunderstanding of the principle laid down here. It's the same box and another box at the same time))
tamucca
tamucca
PRO
08 Jul 11:30 # Show original
I was very touched by the moment when dozens of Jason escorted the family to the cube. I can't imagine how painful it was for them to see how what they had fought so hard for and gone through so much was going away from them forever...
thomas_sawyer
thomas_sawyer
08 Jul 13:47 # Show original
The finale is almost a clip of George Michael and Mary J. Blige)
SashaMozg
SashaMozg
09 Jul 07:34 # Show original
The finale turned out to be very mediocre, because the main one "kind Jason " is no longer so much empathized with as in the course of the series.
Do I understand correctly that the Jacons will continue to arrive in this universe that the family has left over and over again? Or with the departure of the family from this universe, and the flow of Jason should stop?
Now, with the appearance of the whole family in the cube, will they begin to multiply threefold? That is, to appear as a family in different universes and so on indefinitely? Including can they go to the universe where there are many Jason and family (although it is unlikely that they will choose it for their existence, of course)?
I'm just asking these questions, because I want to understand, can they generally find the universe and live in it peacefully or since the creation of the cube, chaos is brought into the universes by many characters who have visited this cube, is there a constant reproduction of them? After all, in many universes, a drug for entering a state of superposition could be invented in unlimited quantities, and characters and their copies multiplied across universes can distribute this drug to a variety of universes...
In general, my head explodes And I do not want to continue, because you can remove anything, but I doubt that I'm going to love the script in the end.
Lighthouse012
Lighthouse012
Today, 00:09 # Show original
@SashaMozg: If in order, then the Jason shown is not the fact that the main one) there could be millions of other options to make a ring from an elastic band, for example, by which we identify our Jason. The Jacons will come again and again. Their number is limited by the duration of Jason and the number of variants that have thought of finding new ampoules. That is, the scenario is real, where another Jason finally returns home after 10 years. The family's departure from one reality to another will not affect the arrival of the new Jason.
The fact that the family is traveling is unlikely to create problems. He can multiply the family by millions of copies if they don't like the new world and have to make new attempts to search. But our family is hardly in danger. Most likely, the parameters of the world were set by his wife and son, not Jason. Therefore, this excludes the arrival of new Jason. And families do not threaten each other, because their goal is to find a world suitable for living, and not to squeeze the family from other copies of the heroes. Of course, there is some incredibly insignificant probability that random Jason will tune into the world where the family has moved and come out to them, but this is a sooo incredible scenario. It's easier to conjure a world where the local Jason went missing right yesterday, and the newly arrived Jason will take his place.
IgorBeefeater
IgorBeefeater
12 Jul 03:33 # Show original
I think the rest of the crowd of clones together could still create those ampoules and disperse to other worlds where they would be happy
Redopera
Redopera
12 Jul 09:56 # Show original
In general, it turned out well. One viewing is enough. While watching, I kept in mind the idea that the container is a tool. The multiverse exists without him. The so-called Jessen paradoxes are a consequence of using a container. If the container does not exist, then it means it exists - that's such a strange conclusion I made when thinking about the superposition in the series. This means that in the reality where it exists, there are also realities in which the same events happened and did not happen to this container. This is interpreted through the paradoxes of Jessen in one reality - a crowd of Jessens come to the same reality because they used a container. Each new reality is not exactly waiting outside the door in the corridor, but arises, including with the corridor in which these doors are. Well, that is, there are also other realities that have their own corridors and subrealities behind the doors in them. In general, this way you can immerse yourself in meaningless thinking for a long time. So "Jessen #1" - may well be the imaginary reality of a dying drug addict Jessen from another reality. There is no beginning or end.
"Layton No.2" - went missing in the hallway.
"Amanda #2" miraculously met "Ryan #1" in a reality imagined by both of them independently of each other.
"Jessen No.1" - returned his family and fled to another world.
"The paradoxes of Jessen No. 1" - do not each have their own reality, but only one in common. They were left with nothing.
"Jessen #2" - lost "Daniella #2" in attempts to have a relationship with "Daniella #1".
"Daniella No.1" and "Charlie No.1" - suffered severe psychological trauma.
"Layton #1" - enjoys freedom and is likely to create paradoxes.

Yeah, yeah..
komyn
komyn
12 Jul 14:06 # Show original
Well, they shouldn't have opened this box with clones. In my opinion, they got confused themselves when they were finishing the plot.
Hentai__Queen
Hentai__Queen
13 Jul 02:05 # Show original
Uh, I'm sorry, but it turns out that the wife chose a random Jason? It's just that the one who found her the fastest
, although after the cube they are all different, they all experienced different things
vseslav
vseslav
16 Jul 21:54 # Show original
It's a cool series, you usually watch some and that's it, they'll tell you everything there, they'll show you, but here in the process of watching with the other half, they reasoned, put forward theories, in general, it's definitely worth watching.
forsaken0508
forsaken0508
17 Jul 20:18 # Show original
We started for health, finished for peace...
swsemenov
swsemenov
21 Jul 04:15 # Show original
The series is gorgeous! I haven't watched anything for a long time that makes me ask so many new questions. And there are really new plot moves, at least partially scientifically based, it's very cool.
Nevertheless, I will also express this thought: for the last few episodes, I desperately hoped that Jason would return to Amanda. It was very sad for her when she was left alone in a new world. I think she and Jason have been through a lot, and they would be happy together. And it would be logical if the family had to choose from a variety of other Jason's - the one who didn't have Amanda left had to stay with the family.
When I looked at it, there was also an assumption that no one would get the family in the end. Well, or some random Jason from the crowd)
And yet, evil Jason is also a storehouse of information about how the cube works. He had to be interrogated as much as possible and at the same time guarded, it's such a valuable resource.
If there is a second season, I really hope that there will still be some chance with Amanda)
Lighthouse012
Lighthouse012
Yesterday, 23:56 # Show original
@swsemenov: In this almost endless tangle of a hundred pounds, there was a place for outcomes, where Jason decided to stop and not look for a family, but stay with Amanda)
swsemenov
swsemenov
Today, 01:37 # Show original
@Lighthouse012: I would love to watch a TV version with exactly such outcomes) But! The screenwriters have focused on the wrong universe, and now they just have to imagine it.
Lighthouse012
Lighthouse012
Yesterday, 23:54 # Show original
Even in the middle of the season, I wrote a comment that the idea of Schrodinger's cat was not finished here. There were two outcomes in the experiment. The series showed only one script all the way. I thought it was a bug, but it turned out to be a feature) If I understood correctly, then the main characters should be at least 2 to the 20th degree. This is the minimum. Everything is limited by the number of ampoules. There are only 40 of them, so the largest number is 2 to the 40th power. But after all, one of the copies could get into the world with new ampoules. Then the number of copies is limited by the number of trips that gg will make in a lifetime. And this is 2 to some monstrous extent)))
I liked the ending) when they drove up to the box, I thought it would be cool if they were accompanied by options. And damn it happened) perfect) I hope there will be no sequels. The story turned out to be complete. I had a sinful thought, but what if we add time travel to this concept. And to be honest, it will be extremely difficult to take into account all the subtleties here. But it would be possible to come up with an ending where gg returns to the past and prevents his abduction. But we would still have reached millions of millions of variants of gg that do this. And everything would still overlap with the paradoxes of travel) one thought melts the brain) however, thanks to the screenwriters for such an unusual and amazing scientific concept brought to life. They told such confusing things in a very accessible language
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