s01e09 — Entanglement

Dark Matter — s01e09 — Entanglement

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Duration: 58 min.
Released: 26.06.202426.06.2024 15:00
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1 season
s01e09
s01e01 - Are You Happy in Your Life?
s01e02 - Trip of a Lifetime
s01e03 - The Box
s01e04 - The Corridor
s01e05 - Worldless
s01e06 - Superposition
s01e07 - In the Fires of Dead Stars
s01e08 - Jupiter
s01e09 - Entanglement

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g1477722
g1477722
26 Jun 2024, 08:58 #
A very good ending and a series in general. Everything is great 👍
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
28 Jun 2024, 01:50 #
@g1477722: Well, yes, the ending turned out just like in a fairy tale, and they lived happily ever after) Personally, I lacked some ambiguity or understatement.
But I really liked the series as a whole, the topic is complicated and you can dig into the little things for a long time, someone does, but I accept the world of the series as it is, especially since there are no serious plot blunders.
I do not know about season 2, as for me it is not really needed, after all that has been experienced, it will be too much to put new trials on the shoulders of the heroes. Happy ending, that's what he's happy ending for.
tarasalk
tarasalk
04 Jul 2024, 00:45 #
@Iamliam23: and as for me, there are a lot of muddy moments.
Why was Ryan looking for Amanda?
In what world are the Dessens left?
How to escape from the endless number of copies of people? It's not just Jason, but everyone who's been in the hallway.
Where did Leighton go?
And is it a happy ending at all, it seems that this universe is doomed. More and more people will walk through the worlds and break them.
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
04 Jul 2024, 02:16 #
@tarasalk: Yes, an infinite number of clones, decided to leave alone😁
Hidji
Hidji
04 Jul 2024, 02:35 #
@tarasalk: After all, Leighton was shown in the last shots, traveling through the worlds further.
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
04 Jul 2024, 05:13 #
@tarasalk: Ryan was looking for Amanda..Yes, that's a good question, and most importantly - who is this Ryan? From what world?

With the Dessens, we were just left to figure it out for ourselves: the heroes suffered, the heroes were tired and deserved a good world - some kind of logic.

Those who have been in the corridor are not tied to the world of good Jason, like him, everyone has their own goal, their own world, and when they find it, they will probably encounter copies of themselves.

There is, of course, material for the 2nd part, but I would not continue, because the further the more probabilities there will be and, accordingly, questions to the screenwriters)

tarasalk
tarasalk
04 Jul 2024, 22:16 #
@Hidji: This is the second Layton. And there was also the first one :)
tarasalk
tarasalk
04 Jul 2024, 22:25 #
@Iamliam23: It seemed to me that Ryan came to Amanda from the world of kind Jason.

There were a lot of people from good Jason's world in the hallway: Ryan, Layton, Charlie.

And I would have continued. It just begs for something like the apocalypse from all these trips between worlds. And then some kind of return in time, to the moment of creation of the cube.

Iamliam23
Iamliam23
05 Jul 2024, 03:38 #
@tarasalk: If the same Ryan had come to Amanda, it would have been a stupid blunder - how could 2 different people (Amanda and evil Jason), with completely different motivations, think about the same world out of millions of worlds?
Hidji
Hidji
05 Jul 2024, 04:09 #
@tarasalk: this is the same Leighton from the zero world of good Jason, to whom evil Jason showed a cube for investment, offering to travel. I don't know what else we're talking about.
the_Priest
the_Priest
05 Jul 2024, 11:08 #
@Iamliam23: Apparently, according to the authors of the series, there is only one prosperous, technologically advanced world in the entire multiverse, and if you want to get to a place where everything is good, you get exclusively into it)))
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
05 Jul 2024, 12:25 #
@the_Priest: 😀
tarasalk
tarasalk
05 Jul 2024, 22:42 #
@Hidji: There was also Leighton from the world of evil Jason, who went to the cube in the wake of good Jason and Amanda.
albinka_
albinka_
08 Jul 2024, 08:27 #
@tarasalk: Also, by the way, the question is, why didn't any Amanda get into the world of Good Jason? Did all 100% of Amand die or choose another world? Well, it can't be like that. The answer is one: it's just that in this world, according to the plot, she was no longer needed.
dett
dett
13 Jul 2024, 01:41 #
@Iamliam23: I also have a question, who is this Ryan? Previously, there were suggestions in the comments that Amanda from the world of evil Jason and Ryan from the world of good Jason got into the same reality. And if this is the Ryan, how did he find out about Amanda, because in his world she's just a psychologist. Or am I confused at the end)
d_3ger
d_3ger
30 Jul 2024, 18:53 #
@dett: When Ryan was left in another world, he looked at the northern lights over the city. And then when Jason was leaving Amanda, he took a look at the city, and there was the northern lights too. Of course, you can compare the scenes of the city by high-rise buildings, but I'm too lazy)
dett
dett
30 Jul 2024, 19:35 #
@d_3ger: yes, the city is 100% the same, it's not for nothing that the accents were like that
rstd_lmr
rstd_lmr
25 Aug 2024, 17:38 #
@tarasalk: There will be an infinite number of universes broken by an infinite number of copies. and there will also be an infinite variety of universes never touched by copies. Choose one.
Atia
Atia
06 Oct 2024, 22:09 #
@Iamliam23: basically this is the case, two brains of different people would hardly have created something identical, but still Amanda and evil Jason lived together for a while and most likely talked a lot about worlds before he left. She could convey to him ideas about the ideal world for himself, and he could remember them, even if he himself did not strive for this, and then reproduce them on occasion. But it's still a sooooo big stretch.
minialan
minialan
PRO
19 Oct 2024, 20:53 #
@tarasalk: I agree, if there is a second season. It is obliged to break all the universes, otherwise where else to raise the stakes, and whether it is realistic to settle the process that has begun. And damn, where the hell are the states and the military, the Cubes are in open territories and no one in any universe is interested in where they came from.
Fanfree
Fanfree
12 Dec 2024, 01:25 #
@Iamliam23: It was Ryan, definitely from the world of good Jason. When Jason left Amanda, it was exactly the same sky with the northern lights as in "a world that my friend will like", it was into it that the evil Jason pushed Ryan.
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
13 Dec 2024, 04:30 #
@Fanfree: I do not believe in this for the logical reasons described above. And visual similarities can be explained by simple similarity.
Qtilla
Qtilla
26 Jun 2024, 09:59 #
A crowd of mourners of clones is cool) It's a pity that everything ended so quickly, I would have looked at their adventures more
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
27 Jun 2024, 12:13 #
@Qtilla: we'll see in an hour
s0mik
s0mik
10 Nov 2024, 23:37 #
@Qtilla: Only they're not clones. Rather forks (branches)
Flanker
Flanker
26 Jun 2024, 10:29 #
At the beginning, it seemed that the pace of narration was too slow for the final episode, but then it spun and spun.
I liked the chat with the Jason crowd, ours turned out to be as much as 71st.
I liked the ending, it was a purely happy ending, only a live Schrodinger cat is missing for complete happiness. I still have obvious questions.:
Is Ryan at the very end a hint of a sequel?
Did the family choose the same world where Amanda and Ryan are now?
What will the remaining Jacons do in our world?
Hidji
Hidji
26 Jun 2024, 20:30 #
@Flanker: they always leave a reserve for the second season).
krook
krook
28 Jun 2024, 20:22 #
@Hidji: they can seize power in the world ))
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
27 Jun 2024, 03:21 #
@Flanker: Drinking and crying
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
27 Jun 2024, 12:14 #
@AtomicTroll: They are already tired of killing each other 😁
arahant
arahant
PRO
23 Aug 2024, 06:19 #
@AtomicTroll: the world of drunk men for 40
rstd_lmr
rstd_lmr
25 Aug 2024, 17:39 #
@arahant: You've described any world right now, including ours.
torrerro
torrerro
PRO
27 Jun 2024, 15:22 #
@Flanker: the book is finished, then only the fantasy of the screenwriters, if they decide to continue further.
In general, there are minor discrepancies with the book. Jason 2 did not repent and came with a gun to kill the first one. After a short altercation, Charlie intervened and Jason-1 kills Jason-2 with a knife, only when he was dying he gave the ring and told him to look into the glove compartment where the ampoules were. In the book, the entire narrative is on behalf of Jason-1 and no one else. In the series, of course, everything is more expanded and Jason-2's line in the end was decided to correct a little with remorse and the fact that he helped them. In general, everything was filmed according to the book, then if the series is not closed, then you can turn around at least a thousand Universes, but is it necessary?..
Takumikun
Takumikun
24 Mar 01:46 #
@torrerro: >>It's only the scriptwriters' fantasy if they decide to continue further

There's also the fact that the showrunner, main scriptwriter, and executive producer of the series is the author of the book...
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
28 Jun 2024, 00:53 #
@Flanker: I wonder if Ryan in Amanda's world is the same Ryan who was thrown out of the world of good Jason by evil Jason? So the evil Jason, who knew nothing about Amanda's world, and Amanda imagined the same world while in different situations and emotional states? If so, it's such a stupid blunder)
TheroLayfer
TheroLayfer
01 Jul 2024, 15:21 #
@Iamliam23: or not a blunder. after all, if he was looking for peace with that Amanda Jason-2.. then one day he found it.. rather, if there is a possibility that there would be Ryan who would look for Amanda, then there would be a reality in which he finds her..
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
01 Jul 2024, 15:59 #
@TheroLayfer: It's just that in the series, his motivation to look for Amanda from the world of evil Jason was somehow not prescribed. Hence the question.
monordica
monordica
24 Aug 2024, 19:16 #
Ryan was fantasizing there, not the evil Jason. That's probably why he and Amanda had a vision of an ideal world.
albinka_
albinka_
03 Sep 2024, 08:31 #
@monordica: Even the Jacons (who are the same person) fantasized about worlds in different ways (otherwise they would always travel identically, but judging by their different stories, they did not), and here two completely different people. If this is one world, it's only to please the wishes of the screenwriters. The probability of such a perfect hit from different people is negligible) Well, or only if we accept the fact that there are still an infinite number of worlds in which Amanda is located, who fantasized another world, and we were specially shown exactly that bundle of Jason-Amanda, in which Amanda is exactly the one Ryan finds.
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
28 Jun 2024, 01:02 #
@Flanker: I think those who are smarter will unite in one group and start looking for evil Jason to negotiate /force them to develop that drug for them again.
arahant
arahant
PRO
23 Aug 2024, 06:20 #
@Iamliam23: they all have the same intelligence
skynetua
skynetua
28 Jun 2024, 09:49 #
@Flanker: How did Ryan know about Amanda from the world of Jason 2 to look for her?
TheroLayfer
TheroLayfer
01 Jul 2024, 15:24 #
@skynetua: it seems that Jason-2 left him some hints in his story, or first he found the original world of Jason-2 (although it would probably be correct to call Jason who made the cube Jason-0)
skynetua
skynetua
01 Jul 2024, 16:09 #
@TheroLayfer: so Jason 2 himself couldn't know where she was at that moment)
TheroLayfer
TheroLayfer
03 Jul 2024, 06:56 #
@skynetua: Yes, but he also told some pieces of what he is who he is in his native world.. This gives Ryan the motivation to search for Jason's homeworld.2 After finding this world or more information, it is not difficult to go out in search of Amanda. and yes, of course, this was not explained in any way because it was the seed for the second season.
albinka_
albinka_
08 Jul 2024, 08:29 #
@TheroLayfer: It is very difficult to find the world that another person has chosen without knowing this person at all. And even to ambush her in a cafe. How much time should it have taken to do such a search.
At most, this is Amanda, fantasized by Ryan according to his ideas about her.. Like "I need a world in which there is a living Amanda who traveled with Jason", but there are also an infinite number of such Amandas.
TheroLayfer
TheroLayfer
11 Jul 2024, 01:17 #
@albinka_: if there is a non-zero probability that Ryan finds the same Amanda, then we can always observe the world where it happened.. but will they come up with a convincing motivation for such an event for a potential second season?.
y0u
y0u
15 Jul 2024, 03:41 #
The bottom line is that the series explicitly says that there are an infinite number of realities. And there is a reality in which Ryan found Amanda. And there are no copies. They are all original. This is the essence of superposition.
parcrykeef
parcrykeef
26 Aug 2024, 20:33 #
@Flanker: The Jacons will stir up a sect, with the help of millions (they are the same, yeah), they will improve technology and take over this world for the sake of raw materials and labor. then they will capture the wonderful utopia of Alice Selezneva, where Amanda remained, and pull themselves there from different worlds Daniel-amanda-Charlie-Maxov-Anatoliev and so on (who likes what), and will build love)))
K_shell
K_shell
23 Oct 2024, 13:31 #
The remaining Jason's can replace their fathers with those who have a native bread folder gone :)
Jizou
Jizou
PRO
26 Jun 2024, 11:07 #
A good series, a good ending, but I wonder what will happen to all these remaining Jason, plus there are still a bunch of dead and a certain number of adequate Jason, there are several who clearly went nuts - you can shoot a separate series, how the government dealt with this invasion of Jason)))
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
27 Jun 2024, 03:22 #
@Jizou: criminalists will be in Aher
VIRUS
VIRUS
16 Jul 2024, 03:35 #
@AtomicTroll: a lot of people will get drunk thinking that they went through the roof)
arahant
arahant
PRO
23 Aug 2024, 06:23 #
@AtomicTroll: if the criminologists have any questions, the Jacons will come and pile on them
ИнтeрecныйФиллep
ИнтeрecныйФиллep
PRO
28 Jul 2024, 15:22 #
@Jizou: they will create a Jason citadel)
Uzieller
Uzieller
28 Oct 2024, 01:12 #
Then Rick will come and give them all a hard time)
Uzieller
Uzieller
28 Oct 2024, 01:13 #
We could make or find 1 ampoule from someone - send him to go get ampoules for the rest, and in the end everyone could scatter to other worlds that would suit them best)
dasfeuerordal
dasfeuerordal
26 Jun 2024, 12:00 #
I'm feeling it. I really liked the series. So many emotions and impressions during these 9 episodes, just like a real journey. I am very glad that Ryan and Amanda ended up in the same world, I will believe that Jason and his family will end up there too. Even if they don't, I hope that they will find a decent world where they can finally live in peace. It was cool.
Gamlet
Gamlet
PRO
26 Jun 2024, 13:02 #
A series of missed opportunities.

Nothing happens in the series for 20 minutes - 40 minutes.


And the reason for the denouement is the evil Jason, who previously did what he wanted and when he wanted - just like that he became good.

Sadness.
stevie_why
stevie_why
26 Jun 2024, 13:42 #
I would even say a series of missed opportunities, and most likely the novel itself, on the basis of which the series was filmed.
Uzieller
Uzieller
28 Oct 2024, 01:41 #
Why are they immediately missed? Technically and hypothetically, each of the surviving Jason will still be able to find a world in which they will be happy. Obviously, someone had ampoules left, they could provide for others, or develop new ones. We'll have to try, but it's still quite realistic.
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
27 Jun 2024, 03:23 #
@Gamlet: well, he's not exactly a shit person, he realized what he had done when he met himself
mavlytovfagiz
mavlytovfagiz
PRO
04 Jul 2024, 17:14 #
@AtomicTroll: moreover, he initially did everything with good intentions!)
He said at the end "I thought you'd like my life"

He's just used to solving everything selfishly because he thinks it's right.
In the audio recording at the end, he said that he realized the need to accept the dreams and needs of other people.
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
05 Jul 2024, 15:04 #
@mavlytovfagiz: usually, when they want to do some kind of good deed, they first ask the person if he needs it))
mavlytovfagiz
mavlytovfagiz
PRO
05 Jul 2024, 16:01 #
@AtomicTroll: yes, you can ask, but you don't always need a direct question, you can understand without direct questions whether a person needs your goodness or not. It is this character trait that distinguishes the two Jason.
Gamlet
Gamlet
PRO
05 Jul 2024, 18:16 #
@mavlytovfagiz: What nonsense are you writing!)) Evil-bad Jason has grown a company in his world in which a woman can be shot at any moment for nothing, and he himself is not that a direct question, but simply beat our Jason to insanity and threw him into his world in this form. And he just killed another one by taking out the trash. So this is not a shit man, but a complete shit man. And he was like that for years, after which, as if in a minute and for no reason, he changed. This is just ridiculous and complete nonsense.))
mavlytovfagiz
mavlytovfagiz
PRO
05 Jul 2024, 22:35 #
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diverdm
diverdm
06 Jul 2024, 23:52 #
@AtomicTroll: and this one just does it without asking. Remember the episode with the painting at the exhibition. Or with a car for Charlie.
albinka_
albinka_
08 Jul 2024, 08:32 #
@mavlytovfagiz: This is called "doing good", which is not necessary for the fuck else, because it is dictated not by altruism, but by personal selfishness.
mavlytovfagiz
mavlytovfagiz
PRO
08 Jul 2024, 13:01 #
@albinka_: Yes, I wrote the same thing, after all)
Gamlet
Gamlet
PRO
08 Jul 2024, 14:48 #
@mavlytovfagiz:

There was no good there and there is none, so there is nothing to cause.

And it is unclear that you are discussing what kind of "good" - "good" is that what the evil Jason himself said to the good Jason, in an attempt to justify himself? Seriously?

This is not good, but a lie.
id5789438
id5789438
26 Jul 2024, 07:14 #
@Gamlet: In the multiverse, there are some where it's bad, it's very good.
lyusya86
lyusya86
PRO
26 Jul 2024, 19:43 #
@AtomicTroll: He did good, it turns out
Atia
Atia
06 Oct 2024, 22:31 #
@Gamlet: well, it seems to me that he, as a scientist, was fucked up by his own thoughtlessness and that mess, according to him, which he created with his own hands - with a huge number of variations of himself - and from which there seems to be no escape, or it is unlikely.
Hundreds of Jason's are killing each other, and Daniela and Charlie are in danger. Well, at least I helped evacuate them from this world.
id972349034
id972349034
07 Oct 2024, 04:37 #
@AtomicTroll: If my memory serves me correctly, he asked everyone he took through the cube something like "did you dream of another, better life?"".
m0thman
m0thman
PRO
02 Jul 2024, 23:01 #
But it's the same Jason 15 years ago. I mean, he's not 100% evil.
stevie_why
stevie_why
26 Jun 2024, 13:41 #
Did someone really like the denouement of the season? Since the appearance of the evil clone doppelgangers, it just got boring to watch. The plot has slipped to the level of the children's cartoon Tutenstein (maybe someone remembers going on Jetix).
ElllaDee
ElllaDee
26 Jun 2024, 21:06 #
@stevie_why: the memory is unlocked :D
and so yes, I didn't like the ending, it's kind of sad, even though it's good
id16138560
id16138560
27 Jun 2024, 08:24 #
I agree, the last 2 episodes are all too far-fetched. Although the beginning was promising
desabled
desabled
27 Aug 2024, 01:12 #
@id16138560: I decided to read the comments and saw tons of praise and didn't understand it a little, the last 2 episodes were just epic fail and leaked the whole suspense of the series for cheap, not that the series didn't deserve a happy ending, but everything is somehow fucked up and too predictable and simple, I'm glad that I'm not the only one who was upset 2 recent episodes)
SmilePS
SmilePS
30 Jun 2024, 09:53 #
@stevie_why: It all ended in one season, and that's good, I haven't watched such series for a long time. As always, you can compare it with LOST.
Ooleetka
Ooleetka
14 Jul 2024, 10:10 #
@stevie_why: not that it's boring - I laughed out loud :))
Uzieller
Uzieller
28 Oct 2024, 01:44 #
Yes, it is unclear why, in 1 month of hiking through the multiverse, some Jason teachers have become so stupid and angry. If, of course, time flows the same in all worlds.
mBlaxxi
mBlaxxi
PRO
26 Jun 2024, 14:54 #
Damn, I was hoping for a finale that would be different from the book, it seemed a little weak even in the book

I was very hooked by this turn with the Jason crowd, the realization that they are all the first Jason who just wants to join his family.
hey_seattle
hey_seattle
27 Jun 2024, 11:07 #
The crowd of Jason's also somehow made me feel uneasy, because they went through some trials harder than "our" Jason to return to his wife and son, and were left without everything, even without capsules
Uzieller
Uzieller
28 Oct 2024, 01:15 #
Why is everyone without capsules? Someone may well have had the capsules left
Jmann
Jmann
26 Jun 2024, 15:05 #
7/10. I don't know if I need (and what about) a prod, a complete minik.
The pros are the movement/dynamics of the multiverse concept and the cast.
Cons - an explanation of the concept of the multiverse and the operation of the cube... Bullshit from under the horse, contradicting itself. We tried to get into physics and explanations, and because of this, the more you think about it, the more absurd it is.
To move between worlds, you need to be in an isolated box in a state of superposition, which is achieved by the brain with the help of a drug that turns off areas of self-perception. In fact... it should be a trance. But at the same time, the characters somehow become aware of themselves, walk, move, make decisions and, most importantly, that entering a new universe depends on your thoughts and feelings.
And all this contradicts itself!
Especially considering how "evil" easily returns to the same universe a hundred times without problems (but gg from one thought does not get into a random world! But "angry" jumps back and forth to his home... they would have added to him the invention of an anchor for the chosen world, or something).
Jmann
Jmann
26 Jun 2024, 15:07 #
@Jmann: The twist is funny, but if you think about it...
every decision has generated a copy of GG, and there are hundreds of them. OK, we accept, it makes sense. BUT - why is "evil" alone? According to this logic, he also made a bunch of decisions, which should have given rise to a bunch of his doppelgangers, and they should have appeared there too! He didn't get there on the 1st attempt, he said so himself!
The deeper you try to understand the idea, the more paradoxical everything that happens!
Well, the cube.
Logically, the object moves inside the cube. And it's like that, but then he has to move to where, through the logic of creation, there was a gg who created this cube, i.e. in fact they should always appear in the laboratory, in the cube. But in the series, the cube itself moves, or rather, materializes, and to the point of banality, then in the world underground, then in the middle of the ocean, then in the middle of the road. And when they leave the world, the cube stays there! An unknown cube that everyone shits on. The drug should not affect the cube, and the cube is just a cube, it should not move either.
If you try to analyze the nuances of the concept, and not accept "hey, dudes go into the cube and move" - then everything does not fit together at all. If you are trying to explain and invent pseudoscientific explanations, then at least tie them into something digestible, and not contradicting itself.
reddit
reddit
26 Jun 2024, 17:51 #
@Jmann: On Reddit, the author of the book replied today that the box appears in secluded places and that anyone can find it. In general, the answer from him is short and not very clear, as for me.
And there is only one "evil Jason", for the sake of the plot.
The topic can be read in r/television
Пракоп
Пракоп
26 Jun 2024, 19:41 #
@reddit: I heard a good version of why there is only one scientist.
He knew exactly what kind of world he was going into, he didn't have entanglement multiplied by Amanda. There is no torment of choice - there is no fork. There is clearly one option.
Azra
Azra
26 Jun 2024, 21:47 #
@Jmann: It's Blake Crouch. He's in trouble with science. But the ideas and the movement are good, the "Return" will be even more interesting.
-VLDMR-
-VLDMR-
27 Jun 2024, 03:02 #
@reddit: Does the box appear in hidden places?) And how was the world when the tsunami hit them? Is the place secluded, just not the right time?)
Jmann
Jmann
27 Jun 2024, 03:51 #
@-VLDMR-: and the box in the middle of the highway?)
Jmann
Jmann
27 Jun 2024, 03:57 #
@reddit: in general, it was possible to play that the box is also hidden from the observer, i.e. it does not exist in reality (well, like they open the door out of thin air, there is nothing outside), and to see it could only be done under medications (hidden from the observer, it is clear what the essence of the experiment is and what injections are needed for). Then it would be more "understandable ", that no one sees her from others and no one cares. Well, for example, then the trick with finding a box using a compass/gps is more interesting.
In general, GPS is associated with one of the most absurd moments of the show: they explain that the box isolates the contents from EVERYTHING, any signals and radiation, so that nothing affects the object inside, and only then it can be in a state of superposition, but... They're sitting inside a box (closed!), checking the GPS and Jameson is like, Oh, the satellite signal is being picked up, so they're still in this world. WTF the moment is simple, hand-held.
reddit
reddit
27 Jun 2024, 07:14 #
@-VLDMR-: from the eyes of others meant
Jmann
Jmann
27 Jun 2024, 10:57 #
@Jmann: By the way! I forgot about another dumb moment that burned me out.
Camera. Several episodes in a row show us how Jason monitors the camera on his phone - sometimes in a cafe, then in the kitchen with his family - checks if anyone has left the box... And THEN, SURPRISINGLY, when a hundred doppelgangers come out of there, they forget about it. A gun with blanks, damn it.
And yes, you will say "well, he probably concreted the box, put it away as unnecessary, and then, when he broke it to get a new Ryan, he forgot to put it on... And you'll be right - it's logical... It would be nice if it were shown! You can't hang guns on the wall that don't shoot, the viewer shouldn't think and justify your joints. Show that he has removed the camera, then show the place where the tripod with the camera used to stand, and that he passes by and forgets to put it back on. You put so much emphasis on it during the show, and then you just put the bolt down... 🤦‍♂️
12werre31234
12werre31234
27 Jun 2024, 21:54 #
@Jmann: I also thought about it, at least there could be a transfer of personality without a cube, but not a duplication of matter into reality. Because it was the human particles that entered the superposition state and would exit it in physically different coordinates. New particles would not be added to reality, a cube would not appear there, a personality would be replaced, but in the body of a superposition. In addition, not only does every human decision create a new reality, but this is the level of microparticles, each random oscillation of an electron creates a version of reality. And now imagine the number of particles of their movements in time. According to this logic, in infinite variations of worlds there are an infinite number of people/beings who invented this method, so there should be an infinite number of invasions and entropy into each reality a long time ago.

In addition, there should be an infinite number of versions of Jason-1 in the same way, not 100-200, and this is immediately a collapse of reality where there is a cube. Jason 1 and 2 would always come out into it, endless versions of him inventing the cube in an endless variation of his life.
Vilgelmster
Vilgelmster
27 Jun 2024, 23:58 #
@reddit: there, in one of the episodes, she was standing in the middle of a busy highway, a fucking secluded place
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
28 Jun 2024, 01:39 #
@Jmann: So you can dig into absolutely any fantastic narrative, whether it's the Lord of the Rings or Star Wars or Alien. But the world of this story is what it is, it has certain conventions characteristic of any fantastic narrative, and there are no obvious mistakes. You either like it or you don't. And sit here and be boring about every little thing..Damn man, do you really not value your free time so much that you spend it on this boring?
TheroLayfer
TheroLayfer
03 Jul 2024, 06:59 #
@12werre31234: we can only see those realities that are available for observation. if there was something going on in the reality that Jason got into that the director didn't want us to see, we simply wouldn't be observers of this reality.
Xpillz
Xpillz
04 Jul 2024, 01:00 #
@Iamliam23: there are no mistakes in others, bioweapons have been invented and it shred everything. Star Wars is a children's fairy tale for more than the Lord of the Rings, which by the way is fantasy, not fiction. Another point is that this work speaks like a scientific language, but it does not pull at science fiction. And this is not boring, the series is interesting, but with a weak ending, because the authors could not come up with a good ending that would answer all the questions.
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
04 Jul 2024, 05:03 #
@Xpillz: There may be no mistakes in others, but this is some kind of raw Universe, there are a lot of murky moments: for example, why black liquid (the same bioweapon) did it affect the jockeys, how did they handle it? Where did they get it at all? why does Prometheus jockey drink liquid at the beginning of the film and his body just disintegrates, rather than being infected by someone else, as it was with a man in the same film?

Fantasy is a kind of fiction.

It's quite like science fiction, it's just too complicated a topic, hence the many questions and the opportunity to dig into the little things indefinitely. My advice to you is just forget it and have fun)
diverdm
diverdm
06 Jul 2024, 23:58 #
@Jmann: This episode was outside
WildWildWest
WildWildWest
13 Aug 2024, 03:20 #
@Iamliam23: The black liquid is essentially a strong mutagen. In the case of jockeys, their body is being destroyed. Which was used to populate planets without any life. Well, actually, the same effect is visible on the planet of Engineers - all the engineers remained in the same place where they were caught by the mutagen when they were attacked by David. There may be a problem with the complexity of the DNA strands that the mutagen must rearrange.

In the case of a human, it was not the human himself who mutated (there was an effect on him as a carrier of the infection - the desire to spread further), but in fact the embryo, under the influence of the mutagen. And mutant worms.

And on the planet of Engineers, infection occurred through mutated spores.
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
13 Aug 2024, 12:31 #
@WildWildWest: So why did the jockeys' body (stronger than that of humans) get destroyed by the mutagen, while in humans it led to infection and the development of a proto-alien embryo?
WildWildWest
WildWildWest
13 Aug 2024, 19:32 #
@Iamliam23: if it can, it mutates, if it cannot, it destroys the object of infection.
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
13 Aug 2024, 21:28 #
@WildWildWest: Well, that's what we're talking about - why doesn't it mutate from liquid, but just kills? Although if you plant an embryo of someone else in a jockey, as we know from the 1st part of Prometheus, it takes root perfectly)
WildWildWest
WildWildWest
14 Aug 2024, 01:36 #
@Iamliam23: can't assimilate DNA and just destroys the object? The options are different. Perhaps it's also a matter of volume (the same archaeologist who was exposed to more mutagen mutated, unlike the one to whom David gave a small dose. He mutated much more slowly. The jockey drank a large dose.). At the same time, the embryo is already the second stage of the mutant's development. According to the official ent:

Incompatible hosts die on the spot, while compatible hosts mutate into extremely aggressive monsters called Anathema or Abomination, and/or harbor a parasitic organism. These parasitic organisms, once released, can then fertilize a second host, which leads to the second host hatching a hybrid predatory organism known as a neomorph."

p.s. by the way, while I was studying this, I also found one point that I did not pay attention to in the film - initially Elizabeth Shaw was infertile. So there is an assumption that the embryo was already in Charlie's body and just continued to develop in the Show (well, actually, which is confirmed by the scenario with mushroom spores).
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
14 Aug 2024, 02:22 #
@WildWildWest: About the volume, yes, it is logical, otherwise the campaign cannot be explained.

It is interesting how superadaptive the black substance is, which can live not only in representatives of the same class of animals (humans and certainly other mammals), but also in representatives of different types of multicellular (vertebrates and worms) and even in representatives of different kingdoms (animals and fungi)!

By the way, a jockey infected with a black substance and carrying out a proto-alien has not yet been shown in any film)
arahant
arahant
PRO
23 Aug 2024, 06:26 #
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Uzieller
Uzieller
28 Oct 2024, 01:31 #
Well, technically, there can be an infinite number of evil Jason scientists after entering the cube, it's just that this evil one came to the world of our Jason teacher, and he returns to it, I don't see any contradiction in this, other evil Jason have no connection to this world, they could technically create the same game, only in the world, where everything is the same, but the neon sign is a different color...
Uzieller
Uzieller
28 Oct 2024, 01:35 #
Well, maybe the cube appears only when someone from the outside comes into this world. And he disappears when everyone who knows about him leaves this world.
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
27 Jun 2024, 03:27 #
@Jmann: are you sure that he gets into that very universe, and not into one of its endless variations? I'm pretty sure that this twist with "true" Jason is just a fiction, perhaps in some of the variations he got into that very original world, but it's not necessarily that this is exactly what happened. Maybe this is an absolutely identical world, where the dollar exchange rate is just a little bit different on Wednesday of such and such a date of such a year
Jmann
Jmann
27 Jun 2024, 03:51 #
@AtomicTroll: well, the point is that the series presents it as the original world and the original Jameson, where of all the variations, he was the first to get to Daniella (as she says, anyone could have been at the party, But it was you, and right now it was you.) I thought to the end that there would be some kind of twist in the finale, where this Jameson would be 99.9% original, but then there would be a conversation with Daniella about something, and he would slip up and it would turn out that it was again Not him.
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
27 Jun 2024, 03:57 #
@Jmann: judging by the crooked laws of physics of this series, the chance that he got where he needed to is just scanty. It just seems to me that no one made it difficult for the audience and gave a happy ending.
Jmann
Jmann
27 Jun 2024, 04:02 #
@AtomicTroll: That's the trouble. On the one hand, they tried to complicate it by explaining physics and riveting hundreds of copies, explaining their appearance, and on the other hand, they did not complicate it and gave a happy ending, whereas there are too many questions about the concept itself. Here it was necessary to go either the way of sliding (here is a device, as well as how it works xs, simple, take it for granted), or blow up the brain, as in darkness. And here came out half-cooked fish or meat, neither here nor there. Too stupid for a wow effect, and too stupid from the point of view of physics explanations, like physics itself (in general, Jameson's character does not pull at a scientist at all, they prescribed him a position, gave him a couple of words like superposition, quantum entanglement, multiverse - and that's it, he's a physicist.
The author is clearly too stupid to write deeply and meaningfully, but at the same time considers himself too smart, so he tries to use clever concepts, but this makes everything look even stupider than it could be.
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
28 Jun 2024, 01:31 #
@Jmann: Have you never watched/read anything before?) This is such a genre, it is not written by physicists or pharmacologists, but by writers guided by their imagination and some basic scientific ideas.
Naturally, there may be some inaccuracies, but this is not so important - any of the fantastic worlds ever invented by writers has a bunch of conventions that the author came up with, these worlds just need to be accepted as they are.

There are no obvious mistakes in the series, but steaming because of the way they depicted the passage into the tunnel is somehow ungrateful.
Everything was done as it is, because it is easier to perceive it that way. If they were, say, immersed in a trance, and walked through the tunnel only in their minds alone and confused, and then opening the door, they would wake up in a cube in a new world - it would not be so spectacular and spectacular.
arahant
arahant
PRO
23 Aug 2024, 06:31 #
@Iamliam23: this series literally consists of obvious mistakes, which, however, does not prevent you from following the characters with interest
dett
dett
13 Jul 2024, 01:47 #
@Jmann: This is the weak point of all pseudo-scientific stories
Uzieller
Uzieller
28 Oct 2024, 01:23 #
I agree that there is not enough explanation of how Jason, who developed the cube, easily walks between the worlds where he needs to, after all, he returned to his main world for ampoules. I thought he would explain it at the end in the audio recording, but no. On the other hand, among this huge crowd of Jason, he is the only real scientist who put his life (15 years relative to other Jason) on this development, he has the right to think more broadly and guess what Jason the teacher (all the others) could not even imagine.
Amyinthetardis
Amyinthetardis
26 Jun 2024, 18:17 #
I really liked the series, from the point of view of morality and emotions it was interesting to watch, because the other Jason (who are not completely crazy) you have terrible empathy, but in fact there is no normal way out of the situation. I hope they will create for themselves such a medicine and also settle down to live in the worlds. I'm sorry that it happened to them (him)
Pravo_helena
Pravo_helena
26 Jun 2024, 18:27 #
@Amyinthetardis: Well, we need to take Daniela through the corridors, multiply her there and bring Danielle to everyone 😅
re_Inferno
re_Inferno
27 Jun 2024, 01:23 #
Jason's communism. Get your Daniella according to the coupon
krook
krook
28 Jun 2024, 20:31 #
@Pravo_helena: and for some, a couple of Daniels at once))
K_shell
K_shell
23 Oct 2024, 13:33 #
My son needs it too
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
27 Jun 2024, 03:28 #
@Amyinthetardis: I think it's necessary to seal the box behind you, because as soon as the government or the special services understand what's going on, they'll start doing it too. And someone will guess for sure, there's a whole crowd of clones left and a lot of corpses of the same guy
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
27 Jun 2024, 12:50 #
@AtomicTroll: But what will happen if the government gets to Cuba can be seen in the series counterpart))
id432499826
id432499826
29 Jun 2024, 10:18 #
@Some shit: Well. yes, the counterpart is much cooler and more thoughtful, although the basis of the plot is hackneyed!
Gaowuwei
Gaowuwei
26 Jun 2024, 18:38 #
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Ooleetka
Ooleetka
14 Jul 2024, 11:06 #
@Gaowuwei: you were wasted, I agree with you, the last two episodes were just ridiculous already :)
ИнтeрecныйФиллep
ИнтeрecныйФиллep
PRO
28 Jul 2024, 15:39 #
@Gaowuwei: Well, well, yes... A man who rated a mediocre dummy series with 4 stars, the relaunch of a cult film for the sake of a modern agenda, and gave 2 stars to a science fiction series. But it's just not your genre, why torture yourself and watch something that you're not interested in, and then blame others for some kind of mediocrity who liked the series.. I am amazed at such non-tricks every time
It_is_different
It_is_different
26 Jun 2024, 19:06 #
A good ending. There will be no continuation, as I understand it?
Juullietta
Juullietta
26 Jun 2024, 21:11 #
It just seems to me that the final remained open to the possibilities of the new season. Ryan found Amanda for a reason, something they will still mix up together, well, it's interesting that this is how the family found a normal world from the first time without sores or some hidden gesture, three people could think of something different for themselves…
Tiinsa
Tiinsa
27 Jun 2024, 17:38 #
@Juullietta: There's some kind of hat with Ryan and Amanda in general. Even if you consider that evil Jason told Ryan about Amanda. I knew where she stayed - only our right kind Jason who is Jason )
dett
dett
13 Jul 2024, 01:51 #
@Tiinsa: Yeah, I agree. and as we see from the series, sometimes it's not enough just to think "where that Amanda is from the fragments of that Jason's memory", yet somehow you need to have a more weighty reason to get into the right world. And Ryan did not cross paths with the good Jason to find out where Amanda stayed and whether she survived at all) evil Jason did not know at that time
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
27 Jun 2024, 12:52 #
@It_is_different: Will be. A second season has already been announced. But it's not clear why
DiKEY999
DiKEY999
27 Jun 2024, 18:54 #
Where did you read the news that there will be a second season?
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
27 Jun 2024, 23:14 #
@DiKEY999: I don't remember, it caught my eye somewhere. But it is not indicated anywhere that the series is closed
Iamliam23
Iamliam23
28 Jun 2024, 01:44 #
@КакойтоХрен: Не фантазируй, если бы официально продлили, все сми бы уже раструбили.
Вот вчерашняя мм статья на Economics, там пишут что официально сериал еще не продлили: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/dark-matter-season-2-is-a-sequel-in-the-works-heres-what-joel-edgerton-revealed/articleshow/111321565.cms?from=mdr
Kentavr
Kentavr
29 Jun 2024, 05:14 #
@Some shit: Maybe it wasn't in our world.
Пракоп
Пракоп
26 Jun 2024, 19:39 #
I liked the ending. Yes, the series could have been shortened, but even if it wasn't complete calm, it was needed, a little respite before the storm. The moment of the Jason's farewell, the cube has a very good scene. Obviously Amanda and Ryan are in the same world, but why is he looking for her and which of the Ryans made the new drug? And the final of the chosen world remained open, but with a big hint of the same utopian Chicago with Amanda and Ryan.
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
27 Jun 2024, 03:30 #
@Prakop: yeah, and then the divorce from the perfect family)
byplayz
byplayz
26 Jun 2024, 19:58 #
It's good that everything is fine 👌🏻🙌🙌🙌🙌😃we put 7 out of 10 🐈⬛🐈⬛🐈⬛cats


I hope they won't squeeze and milk the idea, although they really like such fiction.
Hidji
Hidji
26 Jun 2024, 20:55 #
The peak of interest was in episode 8, that's where I didn't really want to find fault with anything. And the ending is... well, what it is, almost happy-ending, albeit with hints of a possible sequel. And unexpectedly fast compared to the situation at the beginning of this series, when it seemed that the season would end on cliffhanger. In general, if you put aside the long debate about the cube and the many jambs associated with it and movements, the series is pretty good.
Juullietta
Juullietta
26 Jun 2024, 21:06 #
But the season left a lot of different feelings behind…
I feel so sorry for all the other Jason, and it was a wise decision to let her choose for herself. I hope they find a suitable world for themselves and will be happy as before 😌
Oksana_Gol
Oksana_Gol
PRO
26 Jun 2024, 21:14 #
I wasn't even hoping for a happy ending. But the series ended on a good note and even left the groundwork for a sequel. It turns out that Ryan ended up in Amanda's universe after all. I liked that the evil Jason repented in the end. Our Jason's interaction with his family in this series is at the very heart: so heartfelt and touching. There were, of course, flaws in the series, but I really liked it 👍🏻
Ann6556
Ann6556
26 Jun 2024, 22:29 #
I read the ending in the book, so I wasn't surprised. The ending is boring enough, but correct. A series where all the action falls on the penultimate episodes is also not bad. Of all such series, this one managed to be implemented very efficiently. 10/10
id140630607
id140630607
26 Jun 2024, 22:57 #
A great series, with meanings, now such a rarity, judging by the fact that the series has a pause icon - it implies a continuation, let's hope...
gkalian
gkalian
27 Jun 2024, 00:33 #
Surprisingly, unlike the Pines, where the twist disappointed me already for 5 or 6 episodes, this series managed to upset only at the end. Although, when I found out. that it's based on Crouch's book, I was more skeptical about the series.

There are already too many unanswered questions, everything is too simple for the sake of the series. I'm not sure that a sequel is really needed here, such a boring ending is better than some kind of forced story.
AnnaAV
AnnaAV
PRO
27 Jun 2024, 01:17 #
Overall, the series is not bad, it was interesting to watch the development of events. I liked the crowd of Jason's at the end, it was cool to shoot.
Well, there is a reserve for the second season, they can develop it, so I hope for a continuation))
abrosimovavv
abrosimovavv
27 Jun 2024, 02:33 #
My mother is a woman, just started watching, 70+ clones, what's going on at all😂🫣🤔
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
27 Jun 2024, 12:57 #
@abrosimovavv: Do you start watching the series from the last episode? 😁
diverdm
diverdm
07 Jul 2024, 00:09 #
@KakoitoHren: but there are such people - they start the book from the last page)
abrosimovavv
abrosimovavv
11 Dec 2024, 10:23 #
@Some shit: I started watching the series, not the series))))
M0rt14
M0rt14
27 Jun 2024, 02:59 #
it turns out that Daniela believed the one who first explained to her what had happened, i.e. it could have been any Jason
-VLDMR-
-VLDMR-
27 Jun 2024, 03:07 #
@M0rt14: Не удивлюсь, если при перепросмотре так и окажется: у кого-нибудь не там шрам, царапина или не та резинка на пальце.
В целом не без минусов, но вполне достойно. А вот как с продолжением (а по рейтингам вполне).. Тот же первый сезон сериала "Сосны" по Краучу был очень даже хорош. А как закончился первоисточник - лучше не вспоминать. Как и многие сериалы, где закончился первоисточник.
12werre31234
12werre31234
28 Jun 2024, 15:33 #
@M0rt14: yes, it doesn't matter, they are all the original Jason, equivalent, they just showed us on behalf of the lucky guy who first sat down on her ears
M0rt14
M0rt14
28 Jun 2024, 22:25 #
@12werre31234: I mean the same thing, we can assume that the lottery was played after all
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
27 Jun 2024, 03:36 #
The commentators think that they have chosen some kind of cool world, like Amanda's utopia, but it seems to me that there is something boring there, the family is without imagination, despite all the extraordinary things that are happening. I think they chose a world where everything is the same, only a little better.

It's a good series, I've arranged the finale. I doubt that it can have a direct sequel, unless the spin-off is filmed with other characters no longer according to the book.

PS: I was wondering where I would go myself, it's not as easy as it seems. It's just that utopia is boring, it's expensive to mess up.
raziel2011
raziel2011
27 Jun 2024, 03:57 #
@AtomicTroll: apple always prolongs notable series, even those based on books where the plot is finished. Take a look.
(But wait two years)
DiKEY999
DiKEY999
27 Jun 2024, 07:20 #
For example, what were such series?
DmitryYakushev
DmitryYakushev
27 Jun 2024, 09:45 #
@AtomicTroll: there's Crouch himself in the screenwriters, nothing prevents you from shooting at least a thousand direct sequels.
SmilePS
SmilePS
30 Jun 2024, 09:56 #
@AtomicTroll: Так как дверь открывал подросток, думаю в этом мире у всех девушек большие сиськи.
ezzo
ezzo
27 Jun 2024, 08:56 #
Overall, a good ending, but I didn't understand why Rain1 was looking for Amanda and how did he know about her at all?
Vilgelmster
Vilgelmster
28 Jun 2024, 00:05 #
@ezzo: It can be explained here. Let's say people from another world have some invisible properties that can be tracked and he found a way to
Katenka
Katenka
06 Feb 08:55 #
@ezzo: Maybe he was somehow looking for people who suddenly appeared? She disappeared (her original version of the utopian world), and then suddenly appeared and quickly made a passport.
Takumikun
Takumikun
24 Mar 21:25 #
@ezzo: disappeared for a few years and then bam and a little different appeared. For someone who knows about the multiverse, this should be obvious.
DmitryYakushev
DmitryYakushev
27 Jun 2024, 09:44 #
After the eighth, a series of inflated expectations turned out. It ended up being pretty toothless, but the series still came out great.
spasiblya
spasiblya
27 Jun 2024, 09:52 #
The series turned out to be one big psychotherapy session – it's good where we're not. A lot of useful thoughts about his own choices and lives, taking responsibility, etc. "Evil" Jason just had to go to therapy and cope with a midlife crisis :)
And so he literally turned out to be a meme
Irena_Turner
Irena_Turner
PRO
27 Jun 2024, 10:05 #
I liked the series. In general, there is something to think about.
The scene when they finally decided to go to another world and other Jansons let them go - why didn't the other Jansons go in search of a better world for themselves? Since our main Jason is already winning, he is with his family. Others even caused more emotions, especially when one of them shouted "why did he get everything" and so on

It will be interesting to see the second season if they reveal how Amanda and Ryan are doing)
Pravo_helena
Pravo_helena
27 Jun 2024, 10:10 #
@Irena_Turner: The other Jason's don't have any more vials of drugs.
Irena_Turner
Irena_Turner
PRO
27 Jun 2024, 10:12 #
Ours had an almost full suitcase that he could give them.
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
27 Jun 2024, 13:03 #
@Irena_Turner: 40 ampoules per hundred people
musicliveinus
musicliveinus
PRO
27 Jun 2024, 17:46 #
@Irena_Turner: I also thought so at first, like give it to everyone, and stay at home yourself, but then I remembered that there wasn't enough, and I'd have to live with dozens of other Jason's. Therefore, there is nothing left but to leave by ourselves. Or (at the time of writing, I came up with) mb it was necessary, together with the evil Jason, to simply make new ampoules and distribute them to the remaining ones?
alavitka
alavitka
28 Jun 2024, 02:52 #
@КакойтоХрен: Блин, раз злоДжей раскаялся, можно вернуть Райана, у которого уже есть похожая формула и который, как мы видим, таки довёл её до ума, когда узнал цель. Возвращаем "нашего" Райана и делаем достаточно состава для всех.
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
28 Jun 2024, 02:55 #
@alavitka: the evil one gave away all the ampoules, but if there is a prod, it turns out that not everything)) well, either he will create it himself
alavitka
alavitka
28 Jun 2024, 03:07 #
@КакойтоХрен: Я имею ввиду, вместо того, чтобы отдать 40 ампул семейству (которому судя по всему так много не сдалось) он мог использовать три, чтобы вернуть Райана, который мог бы сделать больше. И вообще разошлись бы те по другим мирам, а не эти сбежали. Хотя учитывая трупы, может так и лучше. Но казус с сотней копий одного человека в одном мире всё равно остаётся и не может не вызвать проблем. Но их просто замели под коврик, как Лейтона из мира злоДжея.
Hidji
Hidji
28 Jun 2024, 03:45 #
@alavitka: The last shots: Ryan made the drug and then traveled the worlds himself, even found Amanda somehow. So it's not a fact that they could have crossed paths, they would have diverged in reality).
alavitka
alavitka
09 Jul 2024, 01:48 #
@Hidji: Ой, ну это вообще левой пяткой сценариста решается. Мне кажется, Райана как и прочих показали, чтобы заявить, что у всех всё ок (кроме тучи джейсонов)
Hidji
Hidji
09 Jul 2024, 01:51 #
@alavitka: mmm... Okay, I agree). Moreover, here many questions were solved precisely through this very heel and nothing, the series as a whole did not merge from this, like many of the latter).
dett
dett
13 Jul 2024, 01:58 #
@musicliveinus: so Ryan made the ampoules for Jason, and, as we remember, he was killed in the first series, by the campaign. And the other Ryan, who was close to such an ampoule, he fused into another world. Only if you go looking for him again and cooperate, but here's the thing...
musicliveinus
musicliveinus
PRO
13 Jul 2024, 02:23 #
@dett: Wait, did Ryan make ampoules for evil Jason? I don't remember when it was mentioned
dett
dett
13 Jul 2024, 02:48 #
@musicliveinus: So, you planted a grain of doubt in me. I will not say what I got confused about, then I will reconsider these points.
Hidji
Hidji
13 Jul 2024, 04:16 #
@musicliveinus: It was mentioned at least when he revealed himself to the local Ryan before he was fused to another world. And before that, too.
dett
dett
13 Jul 2024, 09:26 #
@musicliveinus: Yes, I looked at it now, when they met at the exhibition for the first time, Ryan asked if Jason had seen his compositions, well, he said that he had done a lot for you and Velosi without knowing anything. Plus, yes, then Jay said that another Ryan did it.
musicliveinus
musicliveinus
PRO
13 Jul 2024, 13:19 #
@dett: then yes, bummer with ampoules)
Takumikun
Takumikun
24 Mar 21:30 #
@alavitka: so the problem is that not everyone agreed to let Daniela go with one of them, many wanted to be the one who would be with her. The fact that a small group repented and decided to let go and say goodbye does not mean that everything, because there are also those like the one who killed everyone with a rifle or the one who went who captured Jason...And the Jacons will keep coming. The best way is to get out of here and that's it.
DeadDanny
DeadDanny
PRO
27 Jun 2024, 12:21 #
It's a great series. Of course, there is something to get to in terms of logic, but it was interesting and original.

P.S. I've been thinking about the number of ampoules. With the help of a cube, they can be "duped" like in computer games. For example, a hero can put 40 ampoules in front of him and make 2 decisions: take only 10 with him, leaving 30 on the ground, or take all 40 with him. The one who decided to take 40 can move to the world where he decided to leave 30 on earth. And now he has 70. You can repeat indefinitely :D
alavitka
alavitka
28 Jun 2024, 02:51 #
@DeadDanny: По дороге создавая ещё больше Джейсонов... А то маловато как-то! =))
except
except
28 Jun 2024, 19:30 #
@DeadDanny: There is a better plan. The one who left the amulets waits for the one who did not leave to come for them, kills him, and as a result he has 80 amulets and the number of heroes has not increased. Otherwise, it turns out to be a financial pyramid, where there are still 40 ampoules per person, but they go to one person, and the rest have 10 left.
DeadDanny
DeadDanny
PRO
28 Jun 2024, 20:08 #
Wouldn't someone who was going to be killed realize that his other version would try to kill him if he was considering such a decision? It is unlikely that he will come knowing this))
MeMori
MeMori
27 Jun 2024, 13:22 #
I didn't like the ending at all, since the previous episode, all these clones began to piss me off. I was upset that they had made a reserve for the second season, I hoped that they would have time to deal with the clones during this series and finish everything with dignity.
LuM_E
LuM_E
27 Jun 2024, 13:57 #
The ending was kind of dull, there was no wow effect. Everything is clear, the idyll is almost there. But in general, the series turned out to be interesting. And finished. Is it possible to bring Ryan to the main role?

I accept travel to parallel worlds as fiction and as a given for this story. The most important thing for me is the motivation of the characters, their actions and awareness. Again, everything is clear here.
Sich666
Sich666
PRO
27 Jun 2024, 14:04 #
A great series, at the moment the best thing that came out of this year's new products.
sunshine_lika
sunshine_lika
27 Jun 2024, 17:05 #
Not a bad ending, but there are plans for the second season
ArtDm
ArtDm
PRO
27 Jun 2024, 17:42 #
Am I confused? Is the family left with the "first" kidnapped Jason?
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
27 Jun 2024, 23:16 #
@ArtDm: да
SmilePS
SmilePS
30 Jun 2024, 10:00 #
@ArtDm: Все Джейсоны первые.
lyusya86
lyusya86
PRO
26 Jul 2024, 19:45 #
@ArtDm: with the original
K_shell
K_shell
23 Oct 2024, 13:47 #
I would say that it was with the one who was shown to us the whole series.
snorkelle
snorkelle
27 Jun 2024, 18:10 #
And I don't mind that there was a sequel. If they find a screenwriter with a fantasy, it will be interesting to find out how the problem of Jason's clones will be solved, what will happen to the "evil" Jason, how the family will settle in the new world, whether Ryan will return... well, you can come up with a few more lines, there is also a female clone of a friend from a world where bird-like creatures have captured everything - too In general, if you have a stormy imagination, you can still wind up anyone. We'll see...
hello_world
hello_world
27 Jun 2024, 20:38 #
The theme of the series gives a lot of space for options, the screenwriters can roam around. Personally, I was imagining a slightly different scenario. And I wanted to read a novel by Blake Crouch. I wonder how accurately the book was adapted. I liked the series. The finale is open, I would watch the sequel.
Alexandra4440
Alexandra4440
PRO
27 Jun 2024, 22:41 #
Oh my God, it's top! What a series. What a beauty! Just thank you!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
alavitka
alavitka
27 Jun 2024, 22:55 #
Неожиданная концовка. Сволочь раскаялась? Вот что батог животворящий делает! Хотя немного натянуто в смысле выкинуть Райана к херам в другой мир, втянуть сюда чужого и потом раскаяться от того, что оказывается его альтер-эго пострадало?
И это, а ничего что в том мире останется тонна Джейсонов? Как они с документами проблему разрулят? Это почему-то бросили, как неважное.

Но в целом спасибо, что на позитивной ноте закончили. Даже вспомнили почти всех покинутых персонажей. Блэр всё же ушла из насекомого постапа. Доун похоже решалась тоже путешествовать. А может, ждала хоть кого-то и этим кем-то возможно станет Блэр. Райан воспроизвёл состав... Только зачем он искал Аманду? Которая кстати с местной Доун сидит? И что за отсылка с Лейтоном? "Безумный макс"? А кто там был "генерал"? Это же тот, который из "нашего" мира, продолжает довольный путешествовать?

А музыка, когда они заходят в ящик семейством, очень сильно напомнила мелодию из "Через тернии к звёздам" =)) https://music.yandex.ru/album/19331196/track/93704375

Кстати, если кому-то не хватило идейного посыла в фильме или захочется позитивного взгляда на ту же дилемму (вот прям один в один сожаления злоДжея и попадание в альт-версию, где это реализовано), рекомендую старый фильм "Я, опять я и снова я". Те же яйца, только без умных терминов, мрачняка и топорного деления на добро и зло.
dett
dett
13 Jul 2024, 02:03 #
@alavitka: It seems to me that the evil Jason began to repent and realize his stupidity after another Jason told him about the death of the same Daniella from the world of evil GG. But with Ryan, too, there is some kind of misunderstanding) Plus, did Amanda not recognize him or pretended not to? And Leighton came from our world, yes, who bought ampoules for travel and is now coming off)
alavitka
alavitka
01 Aug 2024, 17:16 #
@dett: Не, думаю, непонятка у Аманды на лице как раз вызвана точным знанием, что это какой-то другой Райан, т.к. ихнего убили, а в этом мире они видимо не общались (а то он и вовсе был не жив), так что я бы тоже удивилась. Ну а вдруг ошибся чел или за чем-то другим подошёл таки местный, незнакомый? (аля совпадение века, хотя сидела же там Доун вроде как). А может, это на деле была какая-то другая Аманда, с ним незнакомая... Короче, идея сцены по идее была в другом: что наш Райан выбрался и пытается вернуться. (Нахрена ему сдалась Аманда, если уж он смог её найти, мог бы с тем же успехом к себе за эту ампулу воротиться - оставим на совести сценаристов, может и правда задел на второй сезон был)
dett
dett
01 Aug 2024, 17:55 #
@alavitka: I hope for the continuation of this arc in the new season, because everyone interprets that situation differently. I would like accuracy from the screenwriters)
Liza
Liza
28 Jun 2024, 00:21 #
I liked that they showed that not all the Jason's became finished, cruel, aggressive and murderers, and around the cube they showed those who remained humane and accepted Daniella's choice. Even "evil Jason" was made a little human in the end, not quite udot.

Emotionally, the previous two episodes were more suspenseful than this one, now I'm waiting for the second season, Amanda and Ryan's line is very interesting, and what kind of world did Charlie choose

What 71+ Jason's will do probably won't be shown (how and with what they pay in other worlds), and how people (the police) will treat several identical corpses in different places of the city, too, but it's a pity, it would also be interesting)
K_shell
K_shell
23 Oct 2024, 13:59 #
Judging by what a good son they have, he will choose a really good world.
The whole series was surprised at how adequate and smart Charlie was, even in a situation when he realized everything, another teenager's head could instantly go
Grevon
Grevon
28 Jun 2024, 00:27 #
Yeah, the police will have a lot of questions about a bunch of corpses
Miyazaki
Miyazaki
27 Aug 2024, 18:17 #
@Grevon: * identical
AlexBest115
AlexBest115
PRO
28 Jun 2024, 00:45 #
I would like to see them all in the world of Utopia in the second season
РиаНеймлесс
РиаНеймлесс
28 Jun 2024, 07:24 #
"Tell me again, who is it?"
- My god, I told you: my husband is Ivan Vasilyevich Bunsha. Now you'll be cured, alcoholic!
- That's wonderful! Who's that?
- My husband, Ivan Vasilyevich Bunsha.
"So, do you have two husbands?"
- Come on, two.
- And both Bunshi?
- Both!
albinka_
albinka_
28 Jun 2024, 12:32 #
I liked the series as I watched it, although it raised questions and made me think. But the end is kind of far-fetched. I realized that I don't have a drop of empathy for the chosen Jason, because he's just one of a bunch of the same Jason.
A similar dilemma was fucking played out in the episode of Doctor Who The Girl Who Waited — Episode 10 of season 6. That's just a tough, tear-wringing moral choice.
And here, for me personally, it felt like just some kind of set of NPCs.
Well, won't Daniela be tormented by whether she chose the right Jason if he subsequently behaves somehow "wrong"?, yes, we also, as viewers, do not know whether she chose the right one (the one we have been following all this time).
The final cut with happy endings to the tune and in a brighter color scheme than the whole series is some kind of cliche.
I am very happy for everyone who got to the final, and who is delighted, but I felt rather disappointed myself. After such a "vinaigrette olivier" I fear the second season, if there is one.
Paramelion
Paramelion
29 Jun 2024, 10:09 #
@albinka_: No, everything is normal, in fact, over if you discard all the theories of quantum physics. Daniella chose the first person who contacted her, it could have been anyone. That's why she said she was giving up the lottery. And if we take the drama of the series, then everything is on the level. And the struggle for Daniella with distraught versions, and a bunch of seeing-off versions. Everything that needed to be shown here.
dett
dett
13 Jul 2024, 02:09 #
@albinka_: in fact, for Daniella, it doesn't matter which of the variations of the stolen Jason will stay with her, since they are all her husband at the time of the substitution at the beginning of the series. For her, the alien Jason is just a changeling from another version of the world.
Lisiа
Lisiа
28 Jun 2024, 14:44 #
An incredibly interesting series, keeps you in suspense, I didn't want to turn off for a minute with the words "boredom". Everything is very cool! I would like to watch another season)
oldbk
oldbk
28 Jun 2024, 14:48 #
At the very end of the episode, when they showed an endless corridor with doors, I wanted to see how the door opens and comes out... an intrigue for the second season.
Candramelekh
Candramelekh
PRO
29 Jun 2024, 01:01 #
In general, it will do. In fact, it would be much more interesting for me to look at those who worked with the evil doppelganger, what kind of people they were who coolly failed his wife, what they were doing, why they turned out to be like that
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
29 Jun 2024, 12:04 #
@Candramelekh: to whom exactly? Leighton died trying to catch up with the fugitives and traveling through the worlds. Amanda was with us almost all the episodes, too. The rest are just stupid mercenaries
id432499826
id432499826
29 Jun 2024, 10:27 #
after Rick and Morty, it's not like that anymore.... Don't mess with time. Don't joke, bitch, with time! And boom boom all these Jacen feet (((
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
29 Jun 2024, 12:06 #
@id432499826: Jay probably wasn 't watching 🥲
6o4ka
6o4ka
PRO
29 Jun 2024, 23:10 #
Awesome ending) Now the whole family will run around the worlds, and at the same time the rest of the characters too - Blair, Leighton, maybe Ryan and Amanda will also come up with something))
Surprisingly, in the end, the Jacons finally came to their senses (all but one) and let the family through. And then they arranged a safari for each other in that estate.

To be honest, I propose to end the series on such a positive note, as the Constellation was closed.
Further possible branches of the plot will just be sucking out of your finger
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
30 Jun 2024, 00:23 #
Oh, it's officially closed now. That's good👍
LuM_E
LuM_E
30 Jun 2024, 11:54 #
@Some Shit: I support it! The Jason story is over👌
Nizhona
Nizhona
30 Jun 2024, 23:32 #
I really hope that this season will end, in principle, the final was not so bad, I expected the worst... It looks like Ryan and Manda ended up in the same world after all, but now I wonder why he was looking for her... It turns out that now a crowd of families with suitcases of syringes will walk along the corridors and look for suitable worlds for themselves?..))
ZRaoulDuke
ZRaoulDuke
PRO
01 Jul 2024, 18:05 #
The creaking gate was certainly not enough )
M0rt14
M0rt14
02 Jul 2024, 01:40 #
Is there any information that the series was closed?
ninon92
ninon92
PRO
06 Jul 2024, 15:25 #
@M0rt14: No, there is no such information.
KitiVerbin
KitiVerbin
02 Jul 2024, 08:31 #
Well, to be honest, I didn't have enough emotions, before that everything was very slow, it's unclear, the end seems to be good, but there are so many unresolved questions left. Therefore, if you rate it three out of five)
MiracleGG
MiracleGG
02 Jul 2024, 14:07 #
The series is cool, but the ending is too "sweet" for me personally I expected something more serious, so that we would think and wonder if Jason was the one with the family, in general, I wanted a more open and harsh ending. But in general, the series is good.
ElBarto92
ElBarto92
02 Jul 2024, 14:10 #
The spirit is an hour-long baba melodrama about love mimicking a ten-hour fiction with a leaky plot, where 90% of the time nothing happens.
spirka
spirka
02 Jul 2024, 18:34 #
Guys, tell me, I didn't quite figure out what kind of anomaly caused so many Jason to appear? In general, this is at least theoretically understandable. If possible, in simple words, state your version.
andreyck
andreyck
PRO
02 Jul 2024, 18:41 #
@spirka: the creators of the dick laid on physics, that's what explains it
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
03 Jul 2024, 19:48 #
@spirka: being in the cube, they multiply every time they make different decisions, so all the Jason's are original and kind. Before the kidnapping, they were one. We can say that in part - this corresponds to some laws of theoretical physics, but for the sake of the series and the plot, it is shown as it was convenient for the authors
Xpillz
Xpillz
04 Jul 2024, 00:42 #
@Some shit: thoughts to ponder.1 Jason enters the cube and makes one decision. At what point does parallelization occur? If 1 Jason took the drug and is in the cube, then should he see other copies of himself or not? He's already in superposition. Initially, it seems that parallel universes always exist"in parallel" or are they constantly randomly parallelized? It's just that the appearance of hundreds of Jason in 1 universe is stupid, because if our Jason was parallelized, then at some point so many Jason's should have come out of the box that there would be no place on the planet and they would fly into space. Or the universe has some kind of self-preservation mechanism. If there is, then most likely none of Jason would have appeared. There are even more questions, it was me who threw up the first thing that came to mind
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
04 Jul 2024, 02:14 #
@Xpillz: This is not mathematics that can be proved. This is quantum theoretical physics and how it actually works, we know only approximately, and the series uses only some of its laws, while ignoring many obvious laws and does not explain much to us, leaving it for reflection, guesses and theories
id190670074
id190670074
04 Aug 2024, 00:17 #
@Xpillz: Maybe it is cloned during the opening of the door. That is, the decision to open or not to open the door is the main decision. There weren't many doors opened, so there wouldn't have been so many Jacons either.Otherwise, every decision clones Jason. His heel itches, he thinks - should he scratch it or not? Decides to scratch and ooopee, there are already two of them, the second one decided not to scratch. Really dumb. As you wrote, then there would not be enough space on earth. Or maybe it won't be enough.... Suddenly they will arrive and this world is doomed. It would be cool if that were the case, an unusual ending. And then it would be clearer why the family left, abandoning everything in this world.
albinka_
albinka_
03 Sep 2024, 08:44 #
@id190670074: They had only about 30 ampoules, if I'm not mistaken (15 per person), and sometimes they managed to open a lot of doors under one ampoule, especially when they were looking for "micro-distinct worlds" - it was like they were driving back and forth 10 times on one ampoule.

Even if we take the minimum that they opened the door, say, only 30 times, and calculate exponentially, assuming that after each opening of the door, Jason doubled, and then these 2 Jason doubled, starting to live their lives and opening the doors, then this is 2 in 30 (or even more) degrees. It's still more than a billion Jason - it doesn't seem like reality can handle that.

Well, Evil Jason seemed to travel many times more, but we didn't see trillions of evil Jason. In general, there are just a lot of ill-considered assumptions in favor of the drama)
Lighthouse012
Lighthouse012
23 Jul 2024, 00:23 #
@spirka: each exit from the box potentially created many scenarios for the development of events. For example, the ice world. Some Jason came out of the box and froze. Someone stretched out the night, but did not dig out the box. Someone dug it up, but wanted to keep warm so much that it was easier to understand from the experiment with Schrodinger's cat that it was higher in a new world, where, for example, a fire). The cat is put in a box with an ampoule of poison. As long as the box is closed, the outcome is not clear. But as soon as we open the box, we get two outcomes: the cat is dead (the ampoule with poison was broken), the cat is alive (the ampoule is intact). But in fact, there can be many possible outcomes. The cat died in the left corner of the box, in the right, he died on his back, he died on his stomach, he died on his side. The cat survived and when the box was opened, he was sitting, he was lying, he was sleeping, he was scratching the wall, he was burping fur, he jumped out sharply, which scared Schrodinger, dropped the box and finished himself off with poison. There are an infinite number of possible outcomes. Hence the endless number of Jason
ИнтeрecныйФиллep
ИнтeрecныйФиллep
PRO
06 Aug 2024, 00:30 #
@spirka: my version is that in countless parallel universes, the main events that we saw in the series took place simultaneously in many universes. There are billions of evil Jason's who built the box, and everyone found such a world with the kind Jason who is a physics teacher and who has a family. And billions of the same Jason went the same way as our hero about whom we watched the series. But some part of the Jacons, who, like our Jason, was looking for their own world, got into the world of our original D. These worlds are exactly the same as our Jason's, with the same landmarks by which he searched for his world. That's where we saw so many doppelgangers from. It is quite possible that our Jason did not enter his universe at all.. It's just that it's 100% the same as the original D.
bpGusar
bpGusar
02 Jul 2024, 22:41 #
what an absurdly idiotic series this is. Sorry for the time spent
kladdenbuch
kladdenbuch
03 Jul 2024, 16:26 #
All the Jason's will gather and organize a UVI))))
tarasalk
tarasalk
04 Jul 2024, 00:35 #
I was expecting something more epic. It turns out that this universe is doomed. This cube technology will become more and more accessible, people will walk around each other and cause chaos.
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
04 Jul 2024, 02:18 #
@tarasalk: There's a smart Jay who decides everything
Xpillz
Xpillz
04 Jul 2024, 00:52 #
It turned out a little weak, but 7 can be put. The issue of materialization of the cube is the most urgent. But if we assume that the cube materializes only at the moment of opening the door, then the cube must also be in superposition. But he is not in a superposition, only what is inside him is in a superposition. Then the cube must always exist in all universes. But if a cube has not been invented in a particular universe, how will it appear there? If in 1 universe Jason came up with a cube, then there must be other universes where other people came up with a cube and all the planets should be hung with cubes, and somewhere 2 people should have come up with a cube. In general, I think this is the main unresolved issue that kills this work as science fiction. If it's about love and like what's the difference, then let the authors go fuck themselves. We have raised an interesting topic, but it is not clear how it is there, so come up with an interesting version for yourself.
Lighthouse012
Lighthouse012
23 Jul 2024, 00:16 #
@Xpillz: A slight misunderstanding of the principle of operation. The cube does not need to be invented. The very movement creates this very cube. Like with Schrodinger's cat. If we look at the end of the experiment, we will see that in world one there is a box and a dead cat, in world 2 there is a box and a live cat. Now we look at the reason. There is a world where they are going to conduct an experiment. It has a box and a live cat. And there is nothing else yet. An experiment has been performed and two boxes and two cats are immediately created. As strange as it may sound, but the box exists and does not exist in all worlds at the same time. This box is synchronized only by time and a point in space
albinka_
albinka_
24 Jul 2024, 11:25 #
@Lighthouse012: directly in the experiment, the box and the cat, in any case, are materially present only in the worlds created by the experiment in which the box was created before, he is just dead somewhere, alive somewhere (Where he is at the moment of superposition is not important). In theory, the point of separation is just the opening of the box. It divides the worlds, and after that, anything can happen, with these scientists, with the world around them. But before the discovery, they are one identical world.
Or do you want to say that even in this experiment, a box is automatically formed everywhere, even in worlds where cats and boxes never existed, but they appeared only as a result of the experiment? Like the box was opened, there was a dead cat in it, but it was not opened by scientists who conducted the experiment, but by badgers in the middle of the forest, in front of which a box suddenly appeared?

Schrodinger was brought into the series, but he is here rather for show, to use the term "superposition". But the box is shown as a mental portal to parallel realities, and the plot of the series correlates rather vaguely with the experiment. This is based on the visualization of the world when opening the door. It is as if the very fantasy of a person in a superposition creates / finds a passage into these worlds.
It's as if the cat in the Schrodinger box could imagine that the experiment was being conducted not by scientists, but by badgers in the middle of the forest, and in the end that's why people would not open the door.
Lighthouse012
Lighthouse012
24 Jul 2024, 11:38 #
@albinka_: you also forget about the time and coordinates. If the experiment started in the office of the research institute at 10:30, then the box appears exactly at this time and exactly in this place.
That's right about the last paragraph. If the series had fully used the concept of Schrodinger's cat, then we would not have gotten travel between worlds. Because all new realities appeared at the moment the door was opened. This is the only thing that is not even indirectly explained by the series. You can speculate here. Personally, it seems to me that the idea of the Schrodinger cat experiment was developed here. Since the experiment has created two universes, where there is a cat and a box, it means that if we move into a new reality, then the experiment will materialize the box in this new world. It is absolutely not necessary that there was a box in this world before the experiment.
Well, or metaphysics in general) they say that the brain in this superposition receives fantastic abilities to materialize new worlds in accordance with its imagination, feelings and emotions😁
Gamlet
Gamlet
PRO
24 Jul 2024, 15:55 #
@Lighthouse012:

"the brain in this superposition receives fantastic abilities to materialize new worlds in accordance with its imagination, feelings and emotions"

No, there are an infinite number of worlds with all kinds of events.

The brain in superposition does not materialize them, but the superposition of the brain allows you to adjust;(enter the entanglement) under the desired world and exit into it.
Hidji
Hidji
25 Jul 2024, 00:14 #
@Gamlet: similarly, according to the results of the series (and the book), there is an opinion that absolutely all worlds are created by the cube and the people inside it. That there is a zero world of the inventor and a lot of his creations already. Everything else is just the consequences of using it. At the same time, this explains why we have only one notorious "evil" Jason. And why the cube is a constant in all worlds, but it is located anywhere, often at different heights in seemingly geographically similar places. Sometimes the basement is deep under the ground, then the surface, then at highway level. So maybe infinity does not exist by itself, but only potentially. Otherwise, we have a lot more plot inconsistencies than in this scenario.
alavitka
alavitka
05 Aug 2024, 03:23 #
@Hidji: Нихрена это не поясняет, потому что тогда миры бы начали ветвиться после изобретения куба, откуда тогда взялся бы Джейсон, его не изобретший в прошлом? Нет, каждое решение каждого в том числе даже не думавшего о квантовой физике всегда создавали бесконечное множество вариантов. Только считать их отдельными мирами кмк не корректно. А уж тем более, что решения их создают. Это просто разные квантовые состояния одного и того же мира.
Hidji
Hidji
05 Aug 2024, 03:46 #
@alavitka: I mean, from where? The inventor entered the cube and imagined a world where he did not invent it, but lived happily after the wedding. Etc.
ИнтeрecныйФиллep
ИнтeрecныйФиллep
PRO
06 Aug 2024, 00:38 #
@Lighthouse012: your comment reminded me of a funny YouTube video about a time machine that returned to the past exactly 30 seconds ago. And our hero, sitting on a bench with this time machine, is trying to drive up to the beauty. He got to know her, tries to joke, but if the remark is unsuccessful, or he looks like an idiot, he rewinds the time by 30 seconds. This was enough for him to build a fascinating conversation with the girl and get a date from her. So to speak, by trial and error... But the funny thing was that in that time branch, when he pressed the button, he died, and appeared in another universe, or a time branch.. And in the universe where he died, the stupefied girl remained with the corpse on the bench
alavitka
alavitka
10 Aug 2024, 00:36 #
@Hidji: Ах, так куб уже создаёт миры? Ну чё там, какая разница между магией и квантовой физикой. Ничо что даже в сериале идея в том, что вселенные ветвятся от принятых решений? А не создаются от воображения, ля...
Gordey
Gordey
04 Jul 2024, 11:46 #
The ending, of course, is vanilla, but I'm glad that "evil" Jason realized everything, and the rest (even if not all) too. Otherwise, it could have spun indefinitely.
But from a scientific point of view, of course, there are a lot of illogicalities. But it's interesting. Once
Mirzoevshama
Mirzoevshama
04 Jul 2024, 14:54 #
Oh, of course the ending is amazing.
The series is generally not bad.
Красный_пион
Красный_пион
04 Jul 2024, 21:47 #
I liked the series as a whole, especially episodes 7 and 8. Regarding the ending: it seems to me that in a series involving movements among universes, it is very difficult to shoot an ending that will suit everyone. Sometimes such a tangle gets tangled that even the screenwriters or the author are no longer able to untangle it. The same series Darkness, where time travel and an alternate universe - the ending was merged. I've just resigned myself and I don't expect something wow at the end from such series.
КакойтоХрен
КакойтоХрен
04 Jul 2024, 23:11 #
@Krasny_pion: I agree, but what a thrill in the process)
id190670074
id190670074
04 Aug 2024, 00:30 #
@Krasny_pion: I disagree about the darkness. Everything is beautifully looped there. Almost no plot holes and tails were left. Although I did not like the last season because they overreached. And I was just afraid that they wouldn't be able to untangle it. But they were able to and finished everything logically. It's like that's what they planned. Which is rare for TV series. Usually the ending is written on the knee, just to finish
Красный_пион
Красный_пион
11 Aug 2024, 20:24 #
@id190670074: The ending of Darkness violates the main paradox of time travel, the paradox of the "dead grandfather", read about it. If Jonas returned to the past, saved the watchmaker's son (or daughter, I don't remember anymore), then nothing happened, then his father did not get into the past, and Jonas was not born, which means he could not return to the past and save the watchmaker's son. Accordingly, everything would happen again. The loop is not broken.

"I can't go back in time and kill my grandfather, because if I kill my grandfather, I won't be born and I won't go back in time to kill him, then he'll stay alive." That's about what this rule sounds like.

For a series of such scale and complexity as Darkness, this ending is really very weak.
id190670074
id190670074
11 Aug 2024, 22:10 #
@Krasny_pion: But we don't know how time travel works, we can only guess. Personally, I don't really remember who he was saving there or not. I just remember that in the end he made it so that he was not born in this world and closed the loop. It's a beautiful ending for the series. It's still a work of art. I don't even know how it would be possible to finish it in a different way, so that not only logically according to physical laws, but also emotionally. Maybe you have thoughts, you can write them, if you are not lazy, I would read them.
arahant
arahant
PRO
23 Aug 2024, 06:56 #
@Krasny_pion: Which story about time travel does not violate the grandfather's paradox? King, with his time resisting change? As for me, this is even more nonsense. Darkness resolves the paradox in the same way as Donnie Darko, for example - the impossible universe, which arose due to time manipulation, collapses itself at the end of a full cycle.
Blackmeser
Blackmeser
06 Jul 2024, 07:29 #
А ведь всего этого можно было избежать, просто нужно было не закрывать дверь ящика в мире с семьёй.
Lighthouse012
Lighthouse012
23 Jul 2024, 00:11 #
@Blackmeser: A fundamental misunderstanding of the principle laid down here. It's the same box and another box at the same time))
tamucca
tamucca
PRO
08 Jul 2024, 11:30 #
I was very touched by the moment when dozens of Jason escorted the family to the cube. I can't imagine how painful it was for them to see how what they had fought so hard for and gone through so much was going away from them forever...
thomas_sawyer
thomas_sawyer
08 Jul 2024, 13:47 #
The finale is almost a clip of George Michael and Mary J. Blige)
SashaMozg
SashaMozg
09 Jul 2024, 07:34 #
The finale turned out to be very mediocre, because the main one "kind Jason " is no longer so much empathized with as in the course of the series.
Do I understand correctly that the Jacons will continue to arrive in this universe that the family has left over and over again? Or with the departure of the family from this universe, and the flow of Jason should stop?
Now, with the appearance of the whole family in the cube, will they begin to multiply threefold? That is, to appear as a family in different universes and so on indefinitely? Including can they go to the universe where there are many Jason and family (although it is unlikely that they will choose it for their existence, of course)?
I'm just asking these questions, because I want to understand, can they generally find the universe and live in it peacefully or since the creation of the cube, chaos is brought into the universes by many characters who have visited this cube, is there a constant reproduction of them? After all, in many universes, a drug for entering a state of superposition could be invented in unlimited quantities, and characters and their copies multiplied across universes can distribute this drug to a variety of universes...
In general, my head explodes And I do not want to continue, because you can remove anything, but I doubt that I'm going to love the script in the end.
Lighthouse012
Lighthouse012
23 Jul 2024, 00:09 #
@SashaMozg: If in order, then the Jason shown is not the fact that the main one) there could be millions of other options to make a ring from an elastic band, for example, by which we identify our Jason. The Jacons will come again and again. Their number is limited by the duration of Jason and the number of variants that have thought of finding new ampoules. That is, the scenario is real, where another Jason finally returns home after 10 years. The family's departure from one reality to another will not affect the arrival of the new Jason.
The fact that the family is traveling is unlikely to create problems. He can multiply the family by millions of copies if they don't like the new world and have to make new attempts to search. But our family is hardly in danger. Most likely, the parameters of the world were set by his wife and son, not Jason. Therefore, this excludes the arrival of new Jason. And families do not threaten each other, because their goal is to find a world suitable for living, and not to squeeze the family from other copies of the heroes. Of course, there is some incredibly insignificant probability that random Jason will tune into the world where the family has moved and come out to them, but this is a sooo incredible scenario. It's easier to conjure a world where the local Jason went missing right yesterday, and the newly arrived Jason will take his place.
arahant
arahant
PRO
23 Aug 2024, 07:03 #
@SashaMozg: They won't be forever. The arrival time of the Jacons is approximately limited by the duration of the capsules, adjusted for the fact that some of the Jacons could hang for some time in alternate worlds or in the cube itself. In theory, of course, there will still be an infinite number of them, because the number of variations is infinite, but the creators of the series greatly simplify this mechanics. They have an infinite number of variations, however, divided into a finite number of basic scenarios. If they had strictly followed the concept of infinite worlds, the entire universe would have collapsed into a black hole or something like that at the time of the invention of the cube or its first use.
IgorBeefeater
IgorBeefeater
12 Jul 2024, 03:33 #
I think the rest of the crowd of clones together could still create those ampoules and disperse to other worlds where they would be happy
Redopera
Redopera
12 Jul 2024, 09:56 #
In general, it turned out well. One viewing is enough. While watching, I kept in mind the idea that the container is a tool. The multiverse exists without him. The so-called Jessen paradoxes are a consequence of using a container. If the container does not exist, then it means it exists - that's such a strange conclusion I made when thinking about the superposition in the series. This means that in the reality where it exists, there are also realities in which the same events happened and did not happen to this container. This is interpreted through the paradoxes of Jessen in one reality - a crowd of Jessens come to the same reality because they used a container. Each new reality is not exactly waiting outside the door in the corridor, but arises, including with the corridor in which these doors are. Well, that is, there are also other realities that have their own corridors and subrealities behind the doors in them. In general, this way you can immerse yourself in meaningless thinking for a long time. So "Jessen #1" - may well be the imaginary reality of a dying drug addict Jessen from another reality. There is no beginning or end.
"Layton No.2" - went missing in the hallway.
"Amanda #2" miraculously met "Ryan #1" in a reality imagined by both of them independently of each other.
"Jessen No.1" - returned his family and fled to another world.
"The paradoxes of Jessen No. 1" - do not each have their own reality, but only one in common. They were left with nothing.
"Jessen #2" - lost "Daniella #2" in attempts to have a relationship with "Daniella #1".
"Daniella No.1" and "Charlie No.1" - suffered severe psychological trauma.
"Layton #1" - enjoys freedom and is likely to create paradoxes.

Yeah, yeah..
komyn
komyn
12 Jul 2024, 14:06 #
Well, they shouldn't have opened this box with clones. In my opinion, they got confused themselves when they were finishing the plot.
Hentai__Queen
Hentai__Queen
13 Jul 2024, 02:05 #
Uh, I'm sorry, but it turns out that the wife chose a random Jason? It's just that the one who found her the fastest
, although after the cube they are all different, they all experienced different things
lyusya86
lyusya86
PRO
26 Jul 2024, 19:47 #
@Hentai__Queen: She chose her own
id190670074
id190670074
04 Aug 2024, 00:39 #
@lyusya86: Which one of his own? They're all hers. At the time of his abduction and sending to the club, they were the same person. That's the dilemma. They are not from another world. They're from the same place.
arahant
arahant
PRO
23 Aug 2024, 07:05 #
@Hentai__Queen: What are her options? Joint custody?
vseslav
vseslav
PRO
16 Jul 2024, 21:54 #
It's a cool series, you usually watch some and that's it, they'll tell you everything there, they'll show you, but here in the process of watching with the other half, they reasoned, put forward theories, in general, it's definitely worth watching.
forsaken0508
forsaken0508
17 Jul 2024, 20:18 #
We started for health, finished for peace...
swsemenov
swsemenov
21 Jul 2024, 04:15 #
The series is gorgeous! I haven't watched anything for a long time that makes me ask so many new questions. And there are really new plot moves, at least partially scientifically based, it's very cool.
Nevertheless, I will also express this thought: for the last few episodes, I desperately hoped that Jason would return to Amanda. It was very sad for her when she was left alone in a new world. I think she and Jason have been through a lot, and they would be happy together. And it would be logical if the family had to choose from a variety of other Jason's - the one who didn't have Amanda left had to stay with the family.
When I looked at it, there was also an assumption that no one would get the family in the end. Well, or some random Jason from the crowd)
And yet, evil Jason is also a storehouse of information about how the cube works. He had to be interrogated as much as possible and at the same time guarded, it's such a valuable resource.
If there is a second season, I really hope that there will still be some chance with Amanda)
Lighthouse012
Lighthouse012
22 Jul 2024, 23:56 #
@swsemenov: In this almost endless tangle of a hundred pounds, there was a place for outcomes, where Jason decided to stop and not look for a family, but stay with Amanda)
swsemenov
swsemenov
23 Jul 2024, 01:37 #
@Lighthouse012: I would love to watch a TV version with exactly such outcomes) But! The screenwriters have focused on the wrong universe, and now they just have to imagine it.
Lighthouse012
Lighthouse012
22 Jul 2024, 23:54 #
Even in the middle of the season, I wrote a comment that the idea of Schrodinger's cat was not finished here. There were two outcomes in the experiment. The series showed only one script all the way. I thought it was a bug, but it turned out to be a feature) If I understood correctly, then the main characters should be at least 2 to the 20th degree. This is the minimum. Everything is limited by the number of ampoules. There are only 40 of them, so the largest number is 2 to the 40th power. But after all, one of the copies could get into the world with new ampoules. Then the number of copies is limited by the number of trips that gg will make in a lifetime. And this is 2 to some monstrous extent)))
I liked the ending) when they drove up to the box, I thought it would be cool if they were accompanied by options. And damn it happened) perfect) I hope there will be no sequels. The story turned out to be complete. I had a sinful thought, but what if we add time travel to this concept. And to be honest, it will be extremely difficult to take into account all the subtleties here. But it would be possible to come up with an ending where gg returns to the past and prevents his abduction. But we would still have reached millions of millions of variants of gg that do this. And everything would still overlap with the paradoxes of travel) one thought melts the brain) however, thanks to the screenwriters for such an unusual and amazing scientific concept brought to life. They told such confusing things in a very accessible language
McKay666
McKay666
24 Jul 2024, 21:55 #
A gorgeous series, a kind of diamond, among the garbage that is now being massively mended in the USA. Jennifer Connelly is gorgeous, it's a pity she just lost a lot of weight. Alisi Braga also played great. Joel Edgerton didn't like the role of Jason in the beginning, but then somehow got used to him. I wish there were more such cool TV shows.
id5789438
id5789438
27 Jul 2024, 15:24 #
@McKay666: there has always been enough garbage, now it has become more accessible
id5789438
id5789438
26 Jul 2024, 08:21 #
The strongest association is the One-minute Time Machine. The traveler does not know what happens after his departure.
And there are also many ideas of old Soviet fiction like Mikhail Pukhov's Random sequence about the tunnel, the New Aladdin of the Abramovs and something else, the names of which I do not remember.
The drug trip suggests that everything that is happening is actually narcotic delirium or coma.
For some reason, Amanda's utopia immediately leads to Those who leave the Omelas of Ursula Le Guin - they are probably shot for youtube or lynched there.
I think if there were 3-4 Jason's and they were DIFFERENT, thrown out of other universes before "our", samples so to speak, where something went wrong, you could play a more interesting thriller. Reading/watching gets in the way. The series is perceived as a film compilation of the Very Scary movie type. Even the final passage to the box rather made me laugh, reminding me of the scene with the jamshuts in the Eggs of Fate "save us!"
id5789438
id5789438
26 Jul 2024, 08:42 #
@id5789438: Unfortunately, it is completely ignored that the cube was invented in only one universe. In theory, literally everything should be studded with them, causing the surprise of the locals and the joy of scrap metal collectors.
id190670074
id190670074
03 Aug 2024, 23:33 #
@id5789438: by the way, it was invented in one, but it is found in all. Does he appear there at the moment of arrival or is he always standing there? Then why don't other people see it. Even if he appears at the moment of arrival, they go for a walk, then return to him, he remains visible all the time. It would be more logical that only those who had passed through it before could see and feel it physically. Otherwise, it's not clear at all
arahant
arahant
PRO
23 Aug 2024, 07:11 #
@id190670074: It's always worth it. Jason-2 returned to him without the effect of drugs and he always stood. Others see, as we know from the example of Ryan and Leitan. And this is one of the main mistakes of the series - it turns out that this fool sticks out in each of the worlds, sometimes in the middle of the highway, and no one cares about it.
id190670074
id190670074
23 Aug 2024, 17:54 #
@arahant: I'm talking about it and trying to figure out if it's a blunder or if it was intended that way, but we just didn't understand
Liza
Liza
26 Jul 2024, 20:54 #
Perhaps all these Jacons can be with numerous Amandas, in theory she also traveled and there are many of her in the vastness of the worlds where she is alone and does not mind reuniting
shachnev_ilia
shachnev_ilia
27 Jul 2024, 11:58 #
It seems that almost all the questions were answered, but the finale somehow disappointed, there was not enough intensity of emotions, everything somehow calmly passed and ended. In general, the series is quite passable, you can watch the retelling on YouTube and in general you will not lose anything.
kathrine_adams
kathrine_adams
PRO
28 Jul 2024, 20:29 #
A cool series! As a humanitarian, I will not pay attention to the scientific side, I will only say that I just enjoyed the plot. The first two episodes are a bit boring, but then the case rushed forward very cheerfully, it was difficult to break away))
Excellent stories of both main Jason, Amanda is absolutely beautiful (except for the moment when she went out into a snowstorm), I was very glad that she found a suitable world for herself, and I was very sorry that Jason did not stay with her. Daniella also performed well under stress.
I liked how angry Jason gradually became disillusioned with a life that was supposed to be perfect for him, but in the end he made the right choice.
In the end, my head was spinning from the number of Jason's))) But the ending is probably the only true one, so there was no other way to sort it all out. The option of mass slaughter would not have suited this series, there was enough violence as it was.
Of the disadvantages, I note that the branches of both Leytons were thrown somewhere to the mercy of fate.
I don't know if there will be a second season, there is a groundwork, but it would be fine to finish it completely))
id190670074
id190670074
03 Aug 2024, 23:26 #
So it turns out they are all real, all from the same world. She literally chose the first one she saw. I chose them all at once, very convenient, so many loving husbands.
Igor_A
Igor_A
02 Sep 2024, 22:49 #
@id190670074: So there is practically no difference between them. Some only have visible wounds. She chose without visible damage, which is quite reasonable.
albinka_
albinka_
03 Sep 2024, 08:49 #
@Igor_A: Ahah) "This one is broken, obviously with a lot of mileage, can I have another one, that one, without visible damage?"
LTLTLT
LTLTLT
06 Aug 2024, 08:36 #
Why did Daniela believe this particular Jason?

In general, during the viewing, there was a persistent aftertaste of 12 monkeys...
BinkaDeath
BinkaDeath
07 Aug 2024, 17:31 #
I liked the series, it was interesting to watch, after the appearance of a bunch of Jason's, of course I was blown away)
It feels like something was missing at the end. It was possible to walk around better, considering how many characters were left out of their universes... I would watch the sequel...
DariaMach
DariaMach
10 Aug 2024, 10:11 #
The series is for one time. I looked and forgot.
WildWildWest
WildWildWest
13 Aug 2024, 03:29 #
In general, it's not even bad. I won't say that I will return to this series, but this time there was at least some variety, if you don't go into details. In some form, this can be considered a restart of the Sliding ones (although there was more logic in moving there).

In the end, the story of Jason's family is over. And you can argue as much as you like and come up with theories about how and why Ryan found Amanda (she could have simply written a fantastic travel book, but he read it. Or he checked the system to find citizens who suddenly appeared in the system from outside. Well, etc.). Their task is the same - to leave bookmarks for a sequel that will already be outside the original, bookish, story.
АннаДякина
АннаДякина
13 Aug 2024, 14:27 #
I liked the series incredibly! In two days in one breath ! Fantastic philosophical, I would even call a love story, although at first I thought it would be a fantastic action movie, which I will stop watching in the second series)) I join many comments about the existence of a cube everywhere, many Jason at the end, it is clear that many questions to the cube that is everywhere)) but for some reason I wanted to turn a blind eye to this, and focus on the central story of finding my life as the main character, a story from which it is impossible to tear myself away! I also felt sorry for Amanda, who was left in one of the worlds with, as it seemed to me, unrequited love for Jason, their farewell scene is just сподіватися I want to hope for Season 2 and an interesting script to meet these characters once! 10/10
Lola_Jimenez
Lola_Jimenez
PRO
16 Aug 2024, 20:56 #
Apple TV+ продлил Темную материю на второй сезон
https://tvline.com/news/dark-matter-season-2-renewed-apple-tv-plus-1235319828/
Enchantresss
Enchantresss
PRO
16 Aug 2024, 20:56 #
The series has been renewed for a second season.
andreyck
andreyck
PRO
17 Aug 2024, 11:40 #
@Enchantresss: но зачем...
ИнтeрecныйФиллep
ИнтeрecныйФиллep
PRO
17 Aug 2024, 16:51 #
@andreyck: because EPL has a new cow that can still be milked for a couple of seasons 😅
andreyck
andreyck
PRO
17 Aug 2024, 17:00 #
@ИнтeрecныйФиллep: No, well, if they still answer the question of where the box came from, then the season will have the right to exist, but I doubt it very much.
Hidji
Hidji
17 Aug 2024, 17:02 #
@ИнтeрecныйФиллep: at the same time, it was recently reported that they would reduce their expenses on streaming projects, because since the launch of Apple TV+ they have already spent more than 20 yards, and there are fewer views in a month than Netflix has in a day).
sailormofo
sailormofo
18 Aug 2024, 07:57 #
Есть инфа что будет 2-1 сезон
Mario_rossario
Mario_rossario
PRO
19 Aug 2024, 18:02 #
It's a peasant rain
Hallelujah
Rain of men
Hey hey

That's what was playing in my head in the last minutes of the series😁
dionostando
dionostando
21 Aug 2024, 15:56 #
To be honest, the ending was disappointing. The whole mess with a bunch of versions of gg seemed weak to me. It would be better to stop at 1-2 versions, then it would be easier to empathize with the character, the events would be perceived more personally and the drama would be more serious.
arahant
arahant
PRO
23 Aug 2024, 05:25 #
Well... despite all the previous flaws, the finale turned out to be quite decent. The last scene at the cube was impressive. I support the extension for the second season. With competent screenwriters, the story has good potential for development.
IbraFT9
IbraFT9
23 Aug 2024, 18:36 #
One point remains a little unclear: why can't these copies of Jason return to their worlds to their Daniela? And everyone is happy!
And so the series is cool!!
Hidji
Hidji
23 Aug 2024, 18:52 #
@IbraFT9: so this is their world. One. Jason multiplied into an indefinite number in the cube due to the variability of solutions.
Flexeus
Flexeus
26 Sep 2024, 08:17 #
@Hidji: нет, у каждого из них свой мир.
id190670074
id190670074
26 Sep 2024, 15:14 #
@Flexeus: No, they have the same world. It's the same person. The one that bad Jason kidnapped and put in a cube. And every decision he made in the cube divided him into countless. And they all returned home to their world. That's the dilemma. They were all one person when they left this world.
Flexeus
Flexeus
27 Sep 2024, 08:03 #
@id190670074: Это сериал про параллельные вселенные, а не про клонирование/разделение на личности. Изначально это был один человек, но каждое его действие создавало новые параллельные миры, в которых существует другой Джейсон, сделавший другой выбор. И эти для этого не обязательно быть в кубе. Поэтому у каждого Джейсона свой мир, и в каждом из этих миров есть свой Джейсон-похититель.
id190670074
id190670074
27 Sep 2024, 15:04 #
@Flexeus: I said split up, just to simplify. Yes, there are a lot of Jason kidnappers too, because he wasn't the only one who came to this decision. And there were also an unknown number of Jason abductees from their worlds, and they were separated by even more with each decision made. But that's not what this is about. Specifically, what they showed us in the series is the same Jason. There was a specific world where he was married (there may be many such worlds, but it doesn't matter) we are talking about the world shown in the series, let it be World 1. And so the bad Jason from world 2 kidnaps him. In the Cube, Jason from world 1 made a lot of decisions, respectively, he was divided, as when Jason 1 and 2 decided to get married. As a result, a lot of Jason 1 appeared. In the Cube, they went through various trials, but in the end, most of them returned to the world from which they, or rather Jason 1, was originally abducted. That is, this is their world too. They were the same person when they went into the cube
gnom993
gnom993
24 Aug 2024, 22:51 #
Please explain how the family realized that the very first Jason was with them? or does it not matter according to the idea of the screenwriters?
arahant
arahant
PRO
25 Aug 2024, 05:03 #
@gnom993: They're all the same. What do you think is the same Jason? They all lived the same life with this Daniela, before they got into the cube, they were the same person. Our Jason is the Jason we've been following, any one of them could have been in his place. He has no priority over the others.
rstd_lmr
rstd_lmr
25 Aug 2024, 17:35 #
the beginning of the series could have been better. the most interesting part begins in the last third.

So Daniela just chose Jason, who was the least worn out on the way?

In theory, there should be an infinite number of No. 2, as well as an infinite number of No. 1. and accordingly, an infinite number of universes with the same concreted cube. and an endless number of goodbyes, etc.

in general, it is clear that GG has an injury and all that. but Amanda's position is closer to me. as soon as I realized that I could choose the PERFECT world for myself, I would not even think about returning to my NATIVE one. Well, maybe I would visit him from time to time. secretly or openly. and even that is not a fact.

here you can add that No. 1 was SAVING his family from No. 2. but in fact, he could not have known that he would mess up.

In the end, the obvious solution, highlighted in the pieces about the multiverse and in this series too - you can set a condition for a world where the current me-Jacen is obviously better in all areas than native. or where the whole world is better and the family is better and everything is better, but Jacen tragically died. and you can throw other variations.
Hamali666
Hamali666
26 Aug 2024, 12:40 #
Does anyone know if the series is closed or waiting for a sequel? as for me, the story is over.
Redarmyman
Redarmyman
26 Aug 2024, 15:06 #
@Hamali666: пишут, что “Dark Matter” has been renewed for Season 2 at Apple TV+.
ИринаМукачево
ИринаМукачево
27 Aug 2024, 02:29 #
I think it's a cool series! Almost like Darkness. I'm going to read a book.
mynameisbang
mynameisbang
06 Sep 2024, 08:27 #
@Irinamukachevo: the series 12 monkeys is still recommended)
ИринаМукачево
ИринаМукачево
06 Sep 2024, 10:54 #
I watched 12 monkeys. He's not that good.
Miyazaki
Miyazaki
27 Aug 2024, 18:11 #
It was interesting...before the Jason crowd appeared..It's kind of ridiculous.
The ending..the Jason decision..The Jason's farewell..It's a cringe, not a drama.
"Jacen's Chat" is grotesque and comedy.
But, thank God, everyone liked it. The idea is amazing and the ending is good.
ЖанЛюкВеган
ЖанЛюкВеган
29 Aug 2024, 04:31 #
The story of how Dad put everyone on hard drugs)
mynameisbang
mynameisbang
06 Sep 2024, 08:26 #
@ЖанЛюкВеган: ору
nutthugger
nutthugger
01 Sep 2024, 22:26 #
pin it on in the second season, they will explain in all worlds at once whether the box appears or not))
Devilchonok
Devilchonok
02 Sep 2024, 10:57 #
And tell me, was there a moment with a bunch of doppelgangers in the book too? Otherwise, I would like to read it, but I didn't like this moment at all.
Yulon70
Yulon70
02 Sep 2024, 21:11 #
There are so many fucking Jason's. I usually watch TV shows in the background for needlework, but this one was very exciting, I couldn't tear myself away from the second half of the season, I didn't notice how it ended. I really want to continue, but I understand that it seems to have ended logically, but you can come up with a lot of options for continuation)) We will observe whether it will be extended or not
Igor_A
Igor_A
02 Sep 2024, 22:27 #
As I understand it, the more intense the fiction, the more logical mistakes there are in it.
mynameisbang
mynameisbang
06 Sep 2024, 08:25 #
I wonder what happened to that black, second founder? Died?
arox
arox
PRO
01 Oct 2024, 22:31 #
The series was very impressive. And at the very beginning I thought it would be something typical, but I was glad to be mistaken in this.
Here is an interesting interpretation of the multiverse, this cube (and the idea of Schrodinger's cat in principle), the doors to the universes that you choose with all your consciousness and emotional state. This is a great idea for me, to be honest, I understand Leighton, who gave everything in his world and went to travel to different universes, I would do the same))

In general, the plot affects the mind, if you delve into it. And the end of the season is good, calmly in my heart even if there is no continuation, and if there is, I will be happy to watch)
PS the soundtrack is very atmospheric and suitable *-*
satan888
satan888
06 Oct 2024, 07:38 #
I was waiting for a mass fight on the wires near the cube
Julia_G_White
Julia_G_White
14 Oct 2024, 17:32 #
@satan888: Me too, it's very strange that they fought at first, and then no, they were calmly passed into the cube
colorsoul
colorsoul
09 Oct 2024, 15:43 #
Did no one mention Blair, who was standing at the end in front of the cube and would obviously enter there in a second?
So many questions, so few answers..
For some reason, it seems to me that they have entered a world where Ryan and Amanda are.
I really liked the series! I am weak in physics, there is something incomprehensible that I, no matter how hard I tried, could not understand 😁😁
We are waiting for you.. I hope things don't get too bad in season 2!!
Doctor_13
Doctor_13
29 Oct 2024, 10:06 #
@colorsoul: ++ also did not understand anything and also thought that they would get into the world with Amanda
aitras
aitras
18 Jan 04:32 #
@Doctor_13: then it was necessary for Amanda to grab her husband, that evil Jason, just in case)
Serg11
Serg11
13 Oct 2024, 22:38 #
In general, of course, the army of Jason losers is impressive) It's like a zombie apocalypse) I wonder how they will all explain their existence to the police? They can't leave this world anymore! 48 twin brothers? Like in Shirley-Myr, only cooler)) In general, figs knows him. It's a strange plot. Although it was interesting to watch
Julia_G_White
Julia_G_White
14 Oct 2024, 17:30 #
It's strange that at first Jason's clones fought for the family, but in the end they didn't fight in front of the cube at the end, like they changed their mind so quickly
Takumikun
Takumikun
24 Mar 21:59 #
@Julia_G_White: This is just a part of the Jason, there are still those running around who are ready to kill others.
Doctor_13
Doctor_13
29 Oct 2024, 10:05 #
The Jacons came running, it was creeping at the end near the container. Overall, it's a great project, but I didn't understand how it works about the reproduction of the GG versions at all
asetss
asetss
PRO
31 Oct 2024, 13:55 #
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asetss
asetss
PRO
31 Oct 2024, 13:56 #
innovatora
innovatora
10 Nov 2024, 00:45 #
I thought Jennifer Connelly would be given a more interesting role in the series. She's too good to be just a wife.
Devlinn
Devlinn
15 Nov 2024, 15:01 #
In general, it would be necessary to send all these Jacons out to look for other worlds, brew the door and live quietly in their own world with a bunch of millions 🤗
Nomber
Nomber
24 Nov 2024, 00:49 #
@Devlinn: and to live in fear that not all the Jason's came there + there won't be enough ampoules for everyone, sir
Bytamine
Bytamine
17 Nov 2024, 09:20 #
It's funny that Amanda isn't with any of these hundreds of Jason's who have returned. So she always throws it (if she survives)?
MovieFilm
MovieFilm
05 Dec 2024, 15:17 #
@Bytamine: I think they only showed me the story, there were options and where she doesn't throw him, and where he chooses her and stays with her and where he dies and she survives. There is even a universe where Amanda walks with a mustache. Rick won't let you lie)
aitras
aitras
18 Jan 04:33 #
@Bytamine: I guess Jason couldn't find the original universe with her.
МарияAlex
МарияAlex
03 Dec 2024, 02:02 #
Just 😭😭😭
MovieFilm
MovieFilm
05 Dec 2024, 15:16 #
Everything is cool, although not without logical mistakes, assumptions and understatements. But in general, a very cool series) In some places resembled an ancient series where a professor and students traveled through parallel worlds and parted to find their reality.

There are questions about Matter, for example:
1. Why didn't the crowds of bad Jason descend as well. And it should have happened earlier. The good one is kidnapped, the bad one replaces him, then the 2nd bad one comes and kidnaps the 1st bad one and so on (thinking that this is the original) and where are they sent? Into the original world of bad?) So far, a critical mass of both the bad and the good has not accumulated either.

2. The good ones are somehow very different, in the flesh to the point that they already crash into a car with their own family. It just goes against everything and does get your family back.

3. I think the good ones could agree that they would choose Den, and the rest would not climb and go to carry the good to other realities. But the creators decided to last for the 2nd season, so they sent you the whole family to the multiverse)

4. The original universes of any of the heroes do not exist, this is an illusion because they have already uncoupled into many realities after each journey. If a lot of Jason got into the same universe, then there are those where no one got back or only 1 got)
5. How does evil Jason so masterfully jump across universes, get to the right place more than once, including with other people? Although he originally had 50 ampoules, albeit for one.
6. Why leave Ryan in another universe, but after that he would have riveted another drug without question. Well ok. Why was it necessary to pick up the drunken mechanic of the District later? Was there no better option from other universes? And anyway, if there is no body, there is no case) I could not have strained at all (and the screenwriters would have had to come up with a more weighty reason for printing the cube)
There are still many questions) but the main thing is that the series turned out to be interesting!
Takumikun
Takumikun
24 Mar 21:56 #
@MovieFilm: copies of Jason 2 did not appear because he did not make a choice (and this is exactly the condition for budding). He knew in advance how the cube and the corridor worked and knew where he wanted to go. Therefore, he easily wandered between the worlds he needed and did not leave a copy.

Some Jason 1s have been through even more shit, they're just in trouble with their heads. That's why some of them are inadequate, and that's why they wouldn't want to negotiate, because they think they've seen hell for their house, and that's why they want to be the one who stays.
naboev
naboev
07 Dec 2024, 00:48 #
I'm too lazy to read all the comments, so I'm sorry if I've already repeated someone's thought)
firstly, thanks to the commentators, for this amazing journey, together with you through the universe of the series, it seems I've never met such a concentration of smart and wonderful people, so smart that I myself began to complex ahah
secondly, the last series the series was kept in suspense, that was all right, neither to reduce nor to add.
thirdly, I expected an ending in style: before moving to another world, we would randomly talk about a code word that our Jason would not be able to pronounce, a close-up of Daniela's frightened face - bam, credits!
Doctor_13
Doctor_13
04 Jan 02:13 #
@naboev: I was also thinking about a similar ending, but it turned out just like a family thing.
sophial
sophial
PRO
28 Dec 2024, 21:03 #
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sophial
sophial
PRO
28 Dec 2024, 21:03 #
A great series! And the ending...😭 waiting for season 2
g1576033
g1576033
04 Jan 20:44 #
And of course, I still have a question, WHAT DOES DARK MATTER HAVE TO DO WITH IT????
Takumikun
Takumikun
24 Mar 21:50 #
@g1576033: Well, there are several hypotheses in the scientific community related to dark matter and the multiworld concept. For example, the fact that dark matter is the gravitational influence of parallel worlds that do not interact with us directly, but can influence our universe through gravity, or for example, that dark matter may be in a state of superposition
enlin_black
enlin_black
06 Jan 01:49 #
Did I just notice that in the last episode, the paintings at the beginning of the stairs were constantly changing in the house?
I was waiting for some kind of trick in this, an interesting denouement about the fact that this is not what it seems, but I couldn't wait

In general, the series is very good))
optzionka
optzionka
06 Jan 03:13 #
What utter nonsense. Stupid male logic - instead of building a relationship with the woman who was in his world, destroy other people's relationships, spoiling everything for himself (for some reason he should have liked the life from which the inventor of the cube himself escaped), and his wife and child (they are stupid and won't notice it doesn't matter that they have another Jason next to them, right?)
You can watch the first few episodes, as long as there is a mystery in the cube's operation and the logic of the gg is not clear
anarcho93
anarcho93
19 Jan 04:37 #
In terms of vibe and storytelling style, Serik recalled Breaking Bad with parallel universes. If you like this style of storytelling, the series will come in.
Zelinski
Zelinski
PRO
19 Jan 13:24 #
I liked it, it was quite interesting. It's a pity, of course, that we didn't devote more time to Jason and Amanda's journey through different worlds.

But for the life of me, I don't understand why the project should be extended for a second season. Now all the lines have been more or less closed, they have shown what happened to the key characters. I'm afraid they might spoil everything with a strange sequel for the sake of a sequel and start sculpting game.…Moreover, the main Jay/alt-Jay conflict has been resolved. What else is there to shoot about? KMK the story is complete.
Takumikun
Takumikun
24 Mar 21:39 #
@Zelinski: All faith in Crouch, after all, the author of the book is a showrunner.
verolom
verolom
26 Jan 05:23 #
By some miracle, I came across this series, watched it in two evenings. Definitely one of the best in recent times. There are many complaints about many points and inconsistencies, but I really liked the vibe of the series, which was complemented by a good cast and musical accompaniment. The arc with Amanda was almost to tears, I really wanted an alternative ending, this moment was played beautifully.

There haven't been enough alternative worlds yet, more fantasy, let's just say, but there hasn't been such a pleasant aftertaste from the series for a long time. Although it was renewed for a second season, I think it would be ideal to end the series on the first season. I think it's going to be difficult to keep the same level of drama so that the series doesn't slide.

I don't know what's in the book, I don't think I'll get around to reading it, but the series is definitely good, it's worth watching.
haircut27
haircut27
29 Jan 21:50 #
so none of the many people from all the universes are confused by the mysterious cube? who stands in the field, on the road, or somewhere else?

how does it work? Does the cube appear when the door is opened? Or was he there originally before the rise of mankind?
nutthugger
nutthugger
31 Jan 14:00 #
@haircut27: it will be explained in the second season!!
id_oleg1488
id_oleg1488
01 Feb 22:22 #
Dibilism
Ermak_666
Ermak_666
07 Feb 21:55 #
The idea of the series is certainly not bad, but as usual, the scripts and performances are complete bullshit. He's like such a smart professor, but he's so dumb in every episode, and it's like he can't figure out what's what for so long, like an elementary school student. It's really really annoying. You open some door and it's immediately clear that there's some kind of ass here, no fucking like you need to go check something out, look for ass adventures to come back and try to find what you need again. In general, I'm very unhappy with this approach, but I'll watch this fucking season once I've started, and then we'll see...
NikitaZakharkin
NikitaZakharkin
02 Mar 13:14 #
One Dessen family found their ideal world on the first try. The second is from the second. Another 50 wandered through a dozen worlds before finding their own world. More and more Jason's with his wife and son will arrive in the new universe. Sometimes without a son. Sometimes they're old-fashioned and crazy. They will start escaping to other worlds, and solutions, paths, and versions of them will multiply again. And we will follow the madness through the prism of the original James, i.e., in fact, one randomly selected hero from infinity.
Takumikun
Takumikun
25 Mar 19:16 #
The book was already very good, but I liked the series even more. They were able not only to adapt well, but also to complicate the story. We added a narrative from the perspective of Jason 2 and made him an arch of becoming in the world of Jason 1 + I personally liked his arch of remorse in the series more than the book moment where he wanted to stay with his family until the last moment and was ready to kill the original Jason Jason 1 (in the book we have a narrative only from the perspective of one, so for us it is the one who stayed at the end this is the most original one, the one we've been following all the time), expanded the role of Amanda in all its manifestations (added a romantic branch with Jason to her2, made her a version of our Jason's world as a psychologist for Jason 2, they had more events on the journey...well, her departure in the book and the series is different, but I liked it the same way in both versions), added more drama to Jason's Family1 with the introduction of the story about Max (which personally impressed me very much, was very strong during the birthday, and thanks to the introduction of Max, we had this amazing scene in the world where he lives), generally expanded the pool of characters, and which diversified the story very well. Well, in general, many scenes and dialogues are almost one-on-one, some moments were adapted, but harmoniously stuck in another place according to the chronology of events. Someone might say that it was delayed, but as for me, on the contrary, there wasn't enough in the book at all, I wanted more, but here it's just right for this story.
In short, as far as I'm concerned, the book is great, but the series is better. The author of the book, who is both the showrunner of the series and the main screenwriter and executive producer, was able to rework the original and give us the best version of this story. In general, I think that season 2 is not needed, but I trust the author of the original behind the wheel of the series.
stantinkin
stantinkin
17 Apr 08:05 #
Awesome series
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