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Loki — s02e03 — 1893

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Duration: 54 min.
Released: 19.10.202319.10.2023 15:00
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2 season
s02e03
s01e04 - The Nexus Event
s01e05 - Journey Into Mystery
s01e06 - For All Time. Always.
s02e01 - Ouroboros
s02e02 - Breaking Brad
s02e03 - 1893
s02e04 - Heart of the TVA
s02e05 - Science/Fiction
s02e06 - Glorious Purpose

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gkalian
gkalian
20 Oct 2023, 10:19 #
Which Victor Timely is not like the other versions of Kang, Majors plays great. Sometimes, however, I caught myself thinking that all this behavior and facial expressions could be a pretense, because in some moments Victor looks / behaves a little differently, more serious and thoughtful or something.

As an idea, what kind of secret Ravonna has - she can be Kang's lover here (it was in the comics), and therefore Miss Minutka does not like her, because she sees a competitor. Or maybe the Minute was created at all on the basis of Ravonna's consciousness.

In any case, I liked this series more than the last one, the plot has moved forward more.
kozhepiaka
kozhepiaka
22 Oct 2023, 02:56 #
So for a minute they created a kind of UVM. How can she be related to Ravona?
tarasalk
tarasalk
22 Oct 2023, 09:02 #
@kozhepiaka: UVM exists outside of time and recruits employees from the real world. Ravonna could easily have been picked up from anywhere and anytime, because they are all options.
kozhepiaka
kozhepiaka
26 Oct 2023, 16:24 #
@tarasalk: I understand that. but I still don't understand how a Minute can be based on Ravonna if it was created before Ravonna and before UVM
tarasalk
tarasalk
26 Oct 2023, 17:19 #
@kozhepiaka: and what is the difficulty when there are such things as time travel and the multiverse? You go into the future, create a Minute from Ravonna, then together with the Minute you go to UVM, which is timeless. And then you drag into the UVM options from any universe and any moment of time, including from Ravonna's past.
Art_station
Art_station
11 Nov 2023, 20:18 #
@gkalian: what are the other versions? There are only 2 of them before this series was shown more or less legibly, the scene after Ant 3 does not count, it was impossible to understand which Kangas there.
gkalian
gkalian
11 Nov 2023, 21:23 #
@Art_station: Actually in the scene you can understand, at least, different images. Yes, this is not a detailed display, but even in that scene you could see the variety of versions of Kang.
bosco_go
bosco_go
05 Jan 2024, 12:40 #
Did you notice how happy Mobius was during the performance 😀
anatrnd
anatrnd
PRO
20 Oct 2023, 11:39 #
it became a little more interesting, but so far I liked season 1 much more. I hope that Ravonna's secret is not that she is a lover/relative of He Who Remains, but a variant of Kang

Because of Miss Minute, who confesses her love to Victor, I will have nightmares for the rest of my life, thank you
anatrnd
anatrnd
PRO
20 Oct 2023, 11:41 #
@anatrnd: Oh, Scott's relative on the poster, Ferdinand Lang (finally mentioned Balder the Brave!)
gkalian
gkalian
20 Oct 2023, 11:57 #
@anatrnd: Ravonna as a variant of Kang looks much more interesting than just a lover, as it was in the comics. Given that there is a female version of Loki, why not a female version of Kang. Another thing is that it was said earlier that Ravonna is a variant of Rebecca Turminet, so she, in fact, and all the other employees of TVA, is the same option. Except that Rebecca herself is a version of Kang, but it sounds kind of weird.
luvrok
luvrok
PRO
20 Oct 2023, 12:27 #
perhaps there is hope, after such a bad 2 series, we saw a good third. It remains to hope that the series will not slow down. The series is really very interesting. Jonathan Majors is very good

Loki is still shooting fireballs, well, what a kindergarten
AntonKorelyakov
AntonKorelyakov
21 Oct 2023, 11:59 #
@luvrok: Jonathan is just a clown
luvrok
luvrok
PRO
21 Oct 2023, 13:31 #
@AntonKorelyakov: why? He played his part very well, a very talented actor. Better than many in this series.
LUXEON
LUXEON
22 Oct 2023, 23:24 #
@AntonKorelyakov: He has developed facial expressions and plays very versatile, I would like the character to be more dramatic and crazy, but I think such options will still be in projects.
Nog
Nog
20 Oct 2023, 14:14 #
Oh, these fraternal jokes)
Shikisen_Hishune
Shikisen_Hishune
20 Oct 2023, 18:40 #
@Nog: There's something about his reaction to the statues of Baldur, Odin and Thor. Mobius (again) reminds Loki that he is one of the Norse gods. The Asgardian God. And then there is a scene with beautiful and sad music (which also appears in the first season and plays when he is reminded of his home). It feels like at this moment Loki is (again) experiencing an identity crisis. He looks at them and thinks that he is not an Asgardian. He's an Ice Giant from Jotunnheim. Of course, he often reminds others that he is an Asgardian, and Asgard is his home. But it seems that Loki himself does not fully believe in it. But he believes that if he says something to himself an infinite number of times, it will become his truth and faith. And so he desperately hopes it's not a lie. Of course, he interrupts this train of thought by teasing Thor. Behaves as if everything is fine and normal. But the idea that he is not an Asgardian enough to be depicted on a column next to his father and brother remains.
klinssan
klinssan
01 Apr 2024, 17:45 #
@Shikisen_Hishune: браво
kobiii
kobiii
PRO
20 Oct 2023, 14:16 #
Lustful Miss Minutka is a crypto, before that it seemed she was a little jealous, and it looked funny, but in the 1 on 1 scene with Victor it became already awkward. Sylvie is really just like Loki, the same strange decisions - I don't think sending Ravonna to the citadel is a good idea.

I liked the series, they even did a good job on the scenery.
Sayonara_Nirvana
Sayonara_Nirvana
20 Oct 2023, 14:34 #
Who is the enemy for the season? Miss Minutka again? Sylvia?
It doesn't look as interesting as the first season, though..
gkalian
gkalian
20 Oct 2023, 15:44 #
@Sayonara_Nirvana: The feeling that the main enemy of the season is new branches that threaten TWA, and everything else is just a side and accompanying.
sunshine_lika
sunshine_lika
20 Oct 2023, 14:53 #
The first season was much more interesting. And now everything has been narrowed down to the impossible. Detective and green lantern oops..green light from Loki's hands.
vs40
vs40
20 Oct 2023, 16:06 #
@sunshine_lika: >>> Detective and green lantern oops..green light from Loki's hands. <<<

The new superhero Green Palms.
tarasalk
tarasalk
22 Oct 2023, 14:33 #
@sunshine_lika: only 3 more episodes have been shown, it's too early to draw conclusions. Well, it's logical that everything is new in the first season, and then it's a continuation of what was.
Mikle1n
Mikle1n
23 Oct 2023, 18:07 #
I've noticed that in any TV series, movie, cartoon, and even in music, there are people who, from the first minutes of the continuation, shout that this is worse and weaker than the first part🤡
Moreover, they miss such a thing as the "first experience", so they also draw conclusions from an unfinished story…
sunshine_lika
sunshine_lika
20 Oct 2023, 14:53 #
Three episodes have passed, and I have absolutely no desire to look further. Only with the thoughts "Here he is, Loki😪" I look. The plot is about nothing yet
-Holycow-
-Holycow-
22 Oct 2023, 22:21 #
@sunshine_lika: Half a season has passed and there is one thought in my head: why was it necessary to shoot the 2nd season if the normal script was not delivered. the 1st season snowballed and flew to the finale, complicating the plot and everything was done with a bang, the 2nd season made all the characters caricatures of themselves and in terms of the plot: it looks like they wrote a couple of pages of text where Kang will become Kang again and beat him again, and then added catch-up and funny dialogues for timing... it's a pity that it turned out so sad
sokobath
sokobath
20 Oct 2023, 16:41 #
Loki describes "The One Who Stays" as a very scary person, but that at the end of the season, that here it's just some kind of jerk. And I'm still waiting for him to put away his stupid grins and show his severity.
kiprian_zhurov
kiprian_zhurov
PRO
20 Oct 2023, 20:56 #
@sokobath: he was also some kind of clown in ant-man 3, who was defeated in a very stupid way
There is no threat from him of the level of Thanos
tarasalk
tarasalk
22 Oct 2023, 14:39 #
@kiprian_zhurov: the threat is felt from the infinite variety of its variants. There was only one of them in the ant, the exile.
tarasalk
tarasalk
22 Oct 2023, 14:48 #
@sokobath: much more severe, he created TWA and forced to destroy countless worlds. Even Thanos is resting here.
Arkane
Arkane
17 May 2024, 22:15 #
@tarasalk: This is what we were told only in words. This terrible threat is not visible on the screen yet
Redopera
Redopera
08 Nov 2023, 21:17 #
@sokobath: several versions of Kang have already been shown, as you noticed - frivolous, in particular, alpha superiority was expected from "He Who Remains". He kept everything in check, perhaps he was looking for the least of evils, but died by causation in captivity from Thanos from the on-screen timeline. I'm also trying to figure out how this character's cards will play out. Thanos alone embodied the challenge, and Kang's "strength" seems to be in his multi-presence? It's just that now Kanga is being devalued for what it's worth, far from the best KVM plots are "climbing" on it. The production is now on the verge of losing the actor due to his problems with the law. Rumors promise Dr. Doom, which is also cool. As a non-comic book reader, I still know that Doom is an incredibly scalable character who had to be stopped by creatures, well, let's say, above Kang by many orders of magnitude. Of course, I have some expectations from the film studio for the quality of scripts at the level of Remedy Entertainment. That Kang would still be left behind and show his superiority in sub-sacred influences. They had been "preparing" for Thanos for a good ten human-plus years. Here, time is not on the side of the KVM with their Napoleonic plans.
sai_
sai_
20 Oct 2023, 18:31 #
a wonderful series! I would like to reflect on why Sylvia let Kang go. she once told Loki that the future can be changed, she doesn't have to help him, she may not be in the future that he saw. and kang was talking about how he wouldn't necessarily be the kang who did terrible things. so maybe Sylvie found similarities between her beliefs and Kang's. (purely my thoughts, I'm not even sure I remember everything well enough, huh)
the series is mega beautiful, pleasant enough for the eyes. it will be interesting to find out about Ravonna's secret, if it is not related to the relationship with Kang, because the hints were
Shikisen_Hishune
Shikisen_Hishune
20 Oct 2023, 18:46 #
@sai_: in my opinion, the moment Sylvie saw herself ready to kill a man for a crime he hadn't committed yet, she became a TVA who took her life. Pursuing her ultimate goal of eradicating their mission, she became the one she hated the most. And then I found the strength to let go, despite all the rage.
Shikisen_Hishune
Shikisen_Hishune
20 Oct 2023, 18:39 #
The Hornie Arch Miss Minutki is some kind of tin. She's creepy, kind of an evil version of Jarvis. But I have to admit that when she's in the frame, it gets more interesting. And Victor Timely is a cringe. What could be stranger than a novel based on "would you fuck yourself"? I hope there won't be anything like that between Ravona (presumably the version of He Who Remains) and Victor. Sylki selfcest is already enough :D

- This is all very familiar, isn't it?
This scene with Sylvie on the verge of tears, wow. She was hurt, she was angry and afraid for the safety of her new home and the people she cares about, so sparing Victor Timely was a difficult decision for her. Sylvie is at the stage where Loki was in the Avengers and the first and second Thor, where she gradually realizes that she is lashing out and blaming everyone for her actions. Because she is scared and feels that there is no other choice. But in the end, she left him alive (free will), for me it's not a bad character development.

A clear parallel of Ravonna and Sylvie as former close friends/love interests of Mobius and Loki, who repel and force them to find solace and cooperation in each other. Yes, they are inseparable now! So much so that it seems that someone will betray someone in the end - after all, everything good in mcu series ends sooner or later. I would hate to, but the way Mobius shuts himself off from the knowledge of a possible life that was stolen from him by TVA should play a role.

Carnival date was cute, Mobius is a sweetheart, I would also not refuse his offer to go where it would be fun. Honestly, I could just watch Loki and Mobius tease and comfort each other, quarrel and have difficult conversations, and nothing else should happen. We need more LOKI. Eh.

- Loki, come on!
- Absolutely not.
Shikisen_Hishune
Shikisen_Hishune
20 Oct 2023, 18:40 #
Bonus:
opheliozz
opheliozz
PRO
20 Oct 2023, 18:47 #
stuck on these historical surroundings, it turned out just fine in this color scheme;

and it is very interesting that the series was also devoted to Miss Minutka, how she goes over her heads, cruelly "changing" her escorts, and what additional options she has, as a time-traveling AI, in general. and what a careerist she is, however: she decided to upgrade herself for the future at the expense of the Kang option, or something.))

the coolest scene was in the laboratory, where she talked to her future creator, it turned out right mentally - and dangerously maniacal, when he began to be afraid of her "affection",
and how she then almost humanly yelled in front of Ravona: ---..I love you! Ouch! I should have guessed
dezmond774
dezmond774
20 Oct 2023, 20:15 #
I really hope that there will be no stupid movie "AI rubs into the creator's confidence just to set him up"
Enough of the machine uprisings, I'm tired of it.

Loki is sad to look at. He can throw out the big guy in a second, but there will be no plot character, just stand there, nice.
They seem to have a rule in Hollywood - only the villain can act in the frame, the hero must freeze in horror in a stupid pose.
kiprian_zhurov
kiprian_zhurov
PRO
20 Oct 2023, 20:58 #
@dezmond774: as Mobius said, "sometimes I forget that you are one of them"
The creators of the series seem to be too😄
AnnaRashell
AnnaRashell
20 Oct 2023, 21:03 #
@dezmond774: yesaaaa, also podbeshiaaet. Okay, Loki doesn't have the strength in twa, but here - it takes so much time to stand up that there is a complete feeling that the plot only holds on to these fades. It seems that Kanga could have made copies of his dotolkami to the door in twa Loki even at the first meeting, but here's how much they showed
kathrine_adams
kathrine_adams
PRO
20 Oct 2023, 21:50 #
Oh, I got high from this Chicago exhibition! There are so many references to real life and such beauty around. Loki and Mobius eat goodies and tease each other. A cool moment where they came across statues - Loki remembered his family and home again. Victor Timely is cool, I liked the image of a mad scientist-fraudster. Sylvie doesn't look particularly adequate in the middle of the series, well at least she came to her senses at the end. Miss Creep Minute! She seems to be crazy about Kang and wants to rule the universe with him, but personally it seems to me that she wants to get a body solely to kill Kang and other undesirables, so that she can run everything alone. Along the way, she will be the main character of the season)) From what I didn't like, Loki wasn't enough, plus there were a couple of protracted scenes, and even running after Kang sometimes looked too cartoonish. But in general, I really liked it, the atmosphere is super.
nektototam
nektototam
21 Oct 2023, 16:52 #
@kathrine_adams: They openly cosplayed Tesla.
SarkoxedAF
SarkoxedAF
20 Oct 2023, 22:43 #
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olya_loui
olya_loui
PRO
20 Oct 2023, 23:32 #
For some reason, with these temporary movements, costumes, and casual conversations between Loki and Mobius, I caught a vibe of Good Omens 😅
Victoriarch
Victoriarch
10 Nov 2023, 23:13 #
Дааа, точно! Я еще это ощутила, когда увидела актрису из Благих знамений, которая играла судью
Ourania
Ourania
21 Oct 2023, 00:11 #
The first season was better with a clear story and tension in each episode. In season 2, the first three episodes are pulling the rubber. Di Martino is wooden and looks like a foreign body in the ensemble.
So far, dressing up in historical costumes and the unexpectedly voluptuous cartoon-sinister Miss Minutka are only pleasing.
GeistLuft
GeistLuft
21 Oct 2023, 00:22 #
Miss minute is the best
Hidji
Hidji
21 Oct 2023, 02:12 #
I've read it and I don't even know what's wrong with me. It's just that I liked this series less, and most have a different reaction. But for the old Chicago and the exhibition credit, it looked very cool).
arshavin1992
arshavin1992
21 Oct 2023, 03:33 #
No wonder I waited almost 2.5 and a half years)
Tavi_Li
Tavi_Li
21 Oct 2023, 06:30 #
Mmmmmmmmm, my favorite, m + w fall in love in the frame in 5 minutes, but m + m with the same plot notes turns into a queerbate that lasts until the End of Time. Thanks to the Good Omens and Our flag means death for breaking this chain. But Marvel, being Disney, Essna will not give anything but bread crumbs and never.
Sorry, it's boiling over.
And so yes, I agree with everyone who writes that the first season was better. Both in terms of content and structure. In the series called Loki, there are too few Loki.
DiKEY999
DiKEY999
21 Oct 2023, 13:27 #
On Friday, a new series of Loki and a parallel series of Gen V. are released.... And to my surprise, I turn on the second series faster and with interest, not this one. In the first season, everything was somehow mysterious and it was not clear what aroused interest. It's just not clear and not interesting. In the last series, everyone was awesome and like Sylvia, too, that different temporary branches died. And in this series, Loki does not listen that everything can die, he still wants to kill the Nedokang, i.e. what is the logic?🤷🏻♂️ in the first season, somehow the scale was felt, right there as in the park of the TVA premises and that's it.
gilravn
gilravn
21 Oct 2023, 16:47 #
Loki and Mobius with these bags in their hands at the fair and almost everyday conversations about the family of the first as if on a date, sorry 😂
Yellzz
Yellzz
21 Oct 2023, 18:44 #
it would seem that loki could do everything faster and more efficiently with his own forces, and the character was somehow prescribed to be cunning / savvy / making decisions quickly, but in the end he stands like an idol and does not do business. conditional Tony Stark would have solved everything five times faster and without the ability to make clones and teleport, etc.
nutthugger
nutthugger
21 Oct 2023, 21:52 #
how painful it is to watch
fovilleroy
fovilleroy
21 Oct 2023, 23:44 #
It sucks
blacki3
blacki3
22 Oct 2023, 02:43 #
All this is so different from the usual Marvel superheroics that I sometimes forget, like Mobius, that this is the same Loki in front of us
Mcmaffic
Mcmaffic
22 Oct 2023, 08:32 #
This series is already in the spirit of season 1, after all the scandals with Majoros, I have a feeling that this is his last shooting, remind Marvel in the end he was left or not?
blackmore
blackmore
23 Oct 2023, 08:04 #
The trial in November-December should be
Liyuuuuunder
Liyuuuuunder
PRO
22 Oct 2023, 11:44 #
With each episode, I am becoming more and more convinced that the series is being filmed only to shine Tom on the screen for female fans, and in this series there was almost no Tom (((
tarasalk
tarasalk
22 Oct 2023, 13:22 #
@Liyuuuuunder: вообще-то сериал является ключевой частью КВМ и вводит такого персонажа как Канга, который по важности где-то на уровне Таноса.
Известных актеров используют все компании, это нормально.
Я уж молчу что ты сам себе противоречишь, сериал показали ради Тома, но самого Тома почти не показали. Лол.
Liyuuuuunder
Liyuuuuunder
PRO
22 Oct 2023, 14:32 #
@tarasalk: я познаю вселенную марвел по фильмам и сериалам, по-этому тот факт, что Канг=Танос по важности мне пока вообще ничего не даёт, тут это не видно пока, но сериал называется Локи, а не Канг. И я не говорю, что это не нормально использовать известных актеров, мне нравится Том в образе Локи.
Это не противоречие, просто в этой серии Локи почти не было.(это факт конкретно про этот эпизод, а не про сериал в целом, если Вы не поняли)
tarasalk
tarasalk
22 Oct 2023, 14:52 #
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tarasalk
tarasalk
22 Oct 2023, 15:10 #
@Liyuuuuunder: я тоже по фильмам и сериалам. Все отлично видно если хоть немного следить за вселенной. Прошлая фаза была про сагу бесконечности. Сейчас сага мультивселенной. "Тот кто останется" - именно тот кто ограничивал эту мультивселенную. Он предупреждал что в случае нарушения священного таймлайна его варианты развернут мультивселеннскую войну и именно это мы сейчас и видим. В муравье уже показали один из таких вариантов, а в сцене после титров показали миллионы других вариантов Канга. Точно также по чуть чуть вводили Таноса.

> Это не противоречие, просто в этой серии Локи почти не было
Именно это и есть противоречие. Если бы сериал показывали ради Тома, то его бы пропихивали как можно больше, но у авторов в приоритете сюжет, поэтому Тома показывают только там где это оправдано. И кстати, показывали его довольно много.
id74598320
id74598320
23 Oct 2023, 07:01 #
@tarasalk: > Если бы сериал показывали ради Тома, то его бы пропихивали как можно больше
Увы, нет. Именно в новое время именно на популярных актерах/персонажах делают рекламную кампанию, а показывают их в итоговом продукте очень экономно.
Это как "Странные новые миры", которые запустили в производство под крики фанатов, что они хотят сериал про капитана Пайка. Во втором сезоне из десяти серий Пайк задействован только в восьми сериях, а главную роль играет в двух.
tarasalk
tarasalk
23 Oct 2023, 09:19 #
@id74598320: беда-то какая. Всего лишь 8 серий из 10 :)
id74598320
id74598320
23 Oct 2023, 14:21 #
@tarasalk: специальная промоакция: каждая пятая серия без главного героя!
NickPlexus
NickPlexus
PRO
22 Oct 2023, 14:00 #
Интересный ляп с нашим флагом. На 8:44 минуте виден бело-сине-красный флаг. Его там быть не должно, ведь в 1893 всё ещё использовался чёрно-жёлто-белый имперский флаг, который перестал быть официальным только в 1896 году
tarasalk
tarasalk
22 Oct 2023, 14:21 #
@NickPlexus: а наличие мстителей тебя не смущает?) Это не факт даже что оригинальный таймлайн, не то что наш мир.
Nog
Nog
22 Oct 2023, 15:11 #
@NickPlexus: по нынешним временам ещё ладно, что вообще флаг есть)
Shurik_Coyotoff
Shurik_Coyotoff
24 Oct 2023, 17:39 #
@NickPlexus: триколор был торговым флагом, им оснащались торговые корабли вместе с голубым крестом. а судя по тому что тут ярмарка достижений, вполне возможно, что это как раз флаг торговый. Это если натянуть ляп на действительность, а так, не отрицаю что это ляп)
NickPlexus
NickPlexus
PRO
25 Oct 2023, 14:25 #
I don't really understand what the cons are flying for...
-Holycow-
-Holycow-
25 Oct 2023, 15:44 #
@NickPlexus: Вы бы еще проблему сегрегации подняли) это же именно то, что любят обсуждать в комиксах об альтернативный вселенных, наполненных сверхчеловеками...
tarasalk
tarasalk
25 Oct 2023, 18:39 #
@NickPlexus: некоторые походу просто так ставят :) Но я поставил за то что не считаю это ляпом. Это же фантастика, а не документалка.
PlanePassenger
PlanePassenger
26 Oct 2023, 02:47 #
@NickPlexus: возможно, кого-то триггернуло слово "имперский"
NickPlexus
NickPlexus
PRO
26 Oct 2023, 13:40 #
@PlanePassenger: какие неженки они в таком случае
peculiarcharm
peculiarcharm
17 Nov 2023, 20:33 #
@NickPlexus: пофиг,меня в принципе порадовало,что его показали,а не заблюрили/вырезали/выбросили,как поступают абсолютно со всем,касающимся России сейчас. Я скорее даже была удивлена,что его не побоялись и оставили, а то не дай боже,кто нибудь в бывшем твиттере бы оскорбился увиденным😏🙃
natalishka3el
natalishka3el
14 Dec 2023, 23:26 #
@id1131572: точно! И я радостно удивилась)
Sherly_Mathers
Sherly_Mathers
PRO
22 Oct 2023, 17:58 #
Мы получили ещё Локи с магией, и на том спасибо 🤣
А так пока что смешанные чувства от новых серий.
P15Ehg
P15Ehg
23 Oct 2023, 01:58 #
Музыкальная заставка Marvel, под пианино, было неожиданно, но красиво.
merlott
merlott
PRO
24 Oct 2023, 12:41 #
Студвесна какая-то
Gordey
Gordey
24 Oct 2023, 14:34 #
Мне жутко не хватало музыки из Шоу Бенни Хилла, когда за Виктором так по-дурацки гонялись то обманутые бандиты, то Локи с Мёбиусом..
Да, мисс Минутка впечатлила, а всё остальное было весьма скучновато, чуть не уснул..
peculiarcharm
peculiarcharm
17 Nov 2023, 20:36 #
@Gordey: да,ну уровне детского сада какие то погони были😅🥴
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
09 Dec 2023, 23:13 #
@Gordey: наверное не выспались, или в поздний час смотрели 🙂
DanechkaK
DanechkaK
24 Oct 2023, 21:20 #
Мисс Минутка дала жару! Равонна не так проста, 100% один из вариантов Канга, как запасной вариант. Локи и Сильвия!🤤
Lari
Lari
26 Oct 2023, 16:06 #
Честно говоря смешанные чувства от 2 сезона и от серии к серии… Сериал скорее «УВИ - приключения со временем», но никак не «Локи».

Так , переодически вкидывают и напоминают , что у Локи есть всё же «силы» и вроде как «вариант» есть.

Но сериал всё больше напоминает нескончаемый мюзикл и причем тут «Марвел», всё чаще всплывает вопрос.
Lari
Lari
26 Oct 2023, 16:13 #
И уверен , последнее время всё скидывать как двигатель и оправдание сюжета «Марвел» (фильмов/сериалов) на нескончаемые временные сдвиги / переплетения / разломы - уже пресыщаешься.

Как в той пословице про молодого пастуха и волков… всё меньше веришь.
Twell
Twell
27 Oct 2023, 08:14 #
было скучно 😴 даже свидание Мёбиуса и Локи не вытянули серию
tema_krasnoe
tema_krasnoe
PRO
28 Oct 2023, 01:37 #
Актёр, играющий Канга, в этой серии просто 10 из 10)
Мисс Минутка порадовала))
Annie10792
Annie10792
28 Oct 2023, 10:51 #
Эта серия скучновата. Ну, только Мисс Минутка молодец и Локи с его "Тор не такой высокий"))
Annie10792
Annie10792
28 Oct 2023, 10:58 #
В этой серии я что-то начала скучать по Локи из первого Тора и Мстителей
Regis-emiel
Regis-emiel
29 Oct 2023, 12:58 #
наконец серию хоть смотреть было интересно.
криповая влюбленная мисс минутка напомнила озабоченного 790 из лексс. тоже голову в общем-то.
сильви стала совсем нелогична. локи и мёбиус вдвоем очень милые.

понятно, что они пытаются писать прямо таки продолжение первого сезона с мотивами оттуда же.
но ждешь иного, нового и как-то все странно сразу.
tarasalk
tarasalk
29 Oct 2023, 16:09 #
@Regis-emiel: why wait for something new from the sequel?)
Regis-emiel
Regis-emiel
29 Oct 2023, 23:34 #
@tarasalk: why a sequel? the second season is just.
well, other series in different seasons tell different stories. sometimes more than one. something new.
the first season was so long ago and I forgot about the little things, because the feeling is strange.
if you watch them in a row, it's probably a completely different matter.
Victor_Flash
Victor_Flash
10 Jul 2024, 17:30 #
@Regis-emiel: I look in a row, it's still some kind of game
StkHere
StkHere
30 Oct 2023, 15:00 #
Сильвия отвратительная, с радостью посмотрел бы сезон абсолютно без ее участия
Dori_Grey
Dori_Grey
PRO
19 Nov 2023, 18:35 #
@StkHere: I agree)
the screenwriters made her a brainless psycho, her solutions look like this:
"why think about actions, I'll just kill everyone in my path, I don't care about the consequences, the main thing is that I'm not on the IAB team"🤦♀️
Шани
Шани
16 Jul 2024, 17:02 #
@Dori_Grey: I agree, this series showed her to be kind of dumb, but she is essentially the God of cunning and guile. It doesn't take a mind to understand that everyone will die if you don't help, but no... I want to see more of Loki's traits in both Sylvie and Loki himself. He's a trickster, not a simpleton with a sword.
Although I'm glad for any series about Loki, including this one.
aoyagi_rena
aoyagi_rena
17 Nov 2023, 19:15 #
Хм.... Минутка - маниакальный ИИ, с навязчивой идеей заполучить тело и небиться в подруги Тому кто останется. А ещё она мстительная стерва 🤣
У Равонны мания величия и чсв до потолка. Вот уж спелись ...
Сильви в этом сезоне очень сдала позиции как персонаж.
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
09 Dec 2023, 23:15 #
@aoyagi_rena: кстати, такое описание Минутки напоминает кое-кого из "Агентов ЩИТ" 😅
aoyagi_rena
aoyagi_rena
10 Dec 2023, 02:00 #
@Gevorg: I didn't watch it)))
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 13:07 #
@aoyagi_rena: будет время - посмотрите. Хоть сейчас его и объявили non-cannon, до Войны бесконечности сериал считался каноничным, хоть и почти не пересекался с фильмами, и считается одним из лучших сериалов MCU пре-Финальной эры.
peculiarcharm
peculiarcharm
17 Nov 2023, 20:14 #
Самая скучная серия сезона
hxnted
hxnted
19 Nov 2023, 00:28 #
В разы интереснее чем прошлые 2 серии, наконец то бодро. Но у Виктора не ладится с девушками)
StiFF_97
StiFF_97
19 Nov 2023, 14:07 #
Коварная мисс минутка😬
Helen_Sweet
Helen_Sweet
30 Nov 2023, 07:15 #
классная серия. очень красивая и атмосферная.)))
ScarlettLine
ScarlettLine
01 Dec 2023, 18:54 #
Простите, но это уже не Локи, а просто вежливый британский мужик
миафарра
миафарра
04 Dec 2023, 22:24 #
Мисс минутка ещё в первом сезоне пугала, а тут просто на максималках показала себя, сталкерша, вот уж точно тело ей не надо давать
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
09 Dec 2023, 23:08 #
LostFilm: "Нужно поговорить о будущем", оригинал: " о Вашем будущем"
LostFilm: "Мисс?" "Мисс Равонна", оригинал: "Миссис?" "Мисс Равонна"
LostFilm: "Через озеро", оригинал: "У озера", тем более и Чикаго, и штат Висконсин на западном берегу озера Мичиган.

Забавный подход относительно музыки заставки 😂
Мисс Минутка в монохроме: "Так лучше? Я вписываюсь?" 😆
Интересно, Виктор всегда был заикой, потом это прошло, или только эта версия заикается?
А чего это он не закрыл тайник после ухода? Ведь так тайник раскроется и он в будущем не сможет там прятаться... 🤔
Мисс Минутка смотрит так, как смотрят на зарождение романса 🤔 😅
А ведь я не понимал - то ли Мисс Минутка ухмыляется, то ли радуется, а оно вот что 😅 Будем надеяться, это подтолкнёт Равонну к Локи и Мобиусу (опять чуть не написал Морбиус 😆)
Минутка и первоначального Виктора так манипулировала, или это его план манипулировать своим вариантом? Или она просто решила манипулировать эту версию ради тела? Неужто она будем главной угрозой, а не Виктор? Или похоже будет три злодея 😅
Есть такой спор - nature vs nurture (природа против воспитания). Может этого Виктора можно будет воспитать правильно, что бы он не стал плохим Кангом?
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 13:43 #
LostFilm: "Я люблю... тебя", оригинал: "Я люблю... люблю тебя", то есть в оригинале Равонна слышит "люблю".

Интересные факты и заметки:
Фамилия Виктора в оригинале - Timely. Основанная в 1939 г. компания комиксов называлась Timely Comics, позже она была переименована в Marvel Comics.
* Виктор говорит: "Если можешь мечтать об этом, значит сумеешь создать": является перефразированием слов Уолта Диснея: "Если можешь мечтать об этом, значит ты сможешь это построить"
* Режиссёром серии и одним из авторов сценария является Касра Фарахани, художник-постановщик сериала.
* Корабль, на который сели Виктор и Ко, называется Heron. Одним из режиссёров 1 сезона являлась Кейт Херрон.
* Когда Равонна оказывается в Цитадели в Конце времени, на месте её приземления на полу что-то нечётко написано. Рецензисту от AVClub показалось, что это либо "Ejustatis ", что по его словам переводится как "You are the same". ("Ты одно и то же/тот же"?), или "Ijustutis", что по его словам переводится как "justice" (справедливость). "По его словам", ибо беглый гугл поиск не выдал нужных результатов.
* Перед появлением Виктора на ярмарке можно увидеть в играющих музыкантах композитора сериала Натали Холт и сотрудника музотдела 1 сезона Чарли Дрейпера.
* В одном из комментариев сверху было сказано про российский триколор. Так вот - на IMDb написано, что можно увидеть современный шведский флаг, хотя он был принят в сл. десятилетии. Так же можно увидеть современный южнокорейский флаг, который в то время имел схожий, но чуток отличающийся дизайн.
* Висконсин находится к северу от Чикаго, а значит паром должен был плыть левым боком к городу, однако город на правом боку, значит паром плывёт на юг6 глубже в Иллинойс, если не в саму Индиану.
* Бальдер (Бальдр) Храбрый должен был быть иллюминатом во втором "Стрэндже", и сыграть его должен был Дэниел Крейг, но тот отказался от роли из-за опасений подхватить ковид, и его заменили на Мистера Фантастика.
* В газете, которую купил Мобиус, можно увидеть рекламное объявление об аренде комнат от известного американского серийного убийцы Г. Г. Холмса (H. H. Holmes). Некоторые его предполагаемые жертвы пропали во время показанной в серии выставки.
* 1893 год показан более толерантным к чернокожим, чем было на самом деле в эту эпоху, которая была пиком расизма в истории США (см. Nadir of Race Relations), но в то же время то, что чёрный изобретатель имеет свою выставку не смотря на расизм времени, имеет под собой историческую основу: один из дней выставки был посвящён чёрным и назывался "Colored American Day", а также были чёрные участники, одобренные белыми организаторами.
* То, что мисс Минутка первоначально была шахматной программой, прежде чем стать полноценным ИИ, можно считать отсылкой к диснеевскому фильму 1982 г. "ТРОН" (TRON).
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 00:14 #
По очереди релиза:
между этой и сл. серией вышла цветная версия "Ночного оборотня" - Werewolf by Night in Color
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 15:59 #
Оригинальная ч/б версия "Ночного оборотня" - https://myshows.me/movie/80607/
Сразу 3 страницы у цветной версии на Майшоузе:
1. https://myshows.me/movie/510024/
2. https://myshows.me/movie/504107/
3. https://myshows.me/movie/533160/
SergeyKaravay
SergeyKaravay
17 Dec 2023, 13:01 #
Им бы еще Уробороса в эту серию, получился бы почти "Шанхайский полдень"
sssaarah
sssaarah
PRO
18 Dec 2023, 19:09 #
А мне нравится Мисс Минутка. Она хитрая, странная и поэтому невозможно знать, что от неё ожидать. Да и второй сезон мне нравится побольше первого
PlayerENO
PlayerENO
20 Dec 2023, 18:29 #
Нет ничего опасней обиженной женщины. Разве что две обиженные женщины.
Grenada
Grenada
08 Mar 2024, 12:28 #
I like how Mobius eats everywhere 😂
Valeriita
Valeriita
19 Mar 08:15 #
@Grenada: Global problems are global problems, and lunch is on schedule
Dark_Spawn
Dark_Spawn
23 May 2024, 20:17 #
Something like that so far... The end of the first season was powerful, incomprehensible. He made me want more. I was waiting for the evil Kang to appear and give everyone a light.
And now we are saving Loki for one episode, looking for Sylvia for the second, looking for Kang's version for the third, the next one will probably be repaired by the machine. And everyone forgot about the threat of bad Kangas.
NyanQt3_14
NyanQt3_14
22 Jul 2024, 02:04 #
Well, this is one of the worst episodes in all the Marvel series.. In some places it was physically difficult for me to watch it, especially on the scenes where Miss Minutka is jealous ...
Well, the chase to funny music there is also
a nightmare...
dazfull
dazfull
PRO
26 Oct 2024, 19:29 #
I love Marvel for its high-quality shooting, excellent special effects and a beautiful picture, no matter what angle I would look at it from. I also really like that the characters are thrown into different time periods and situations and how they integrate there.
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