Wow. I thought that Alina was not shown during the interrogation for the sake of intrigue, but it turns out that everything is so predictable and real, she was the very victim of the shooter at the party. The candidate of the victim, just like from the first season of the Elite... Then Vadim and Bilan remain in the role of the shooter, judging by the unstable anxious behavior of the first, most likely he is the main initiator of the shooting. On the other hand, Alina's mom says "and THEY killed my daughter," that is, there were several shooters? Then Bilan goes for the company, he also complained about bullying.
@KateMilk: Alina's mom says this after saying that she took the class to the theater, so it's likely that the phrase about "they killed" was in general about the whole class, and not specifically about the one/the one who pulled the trigger
So the victim became known (although probably everyone guessed and so ...)
I hope there will be some kind of sharp turn and it will not be Another and not Bilan ! In any case, only they remain, who have not yet been shown during the interrogation.
@mikrobelka: I noticed it too. But it seems to me that this is not a blunder, but they specifically focused attention on the fact that the teacher is nervous and his head is not filled with a lesson.
As a person who did not watch the Elite, and apparently did not look so carefully in general, I was surprised that the victim was Alina. The way it was presented, through the stage, how she goes to Anton, and all this music, and footage of the interrogation of parents - delight! Very cool. The first series didn't come to me, but now it's gotten better with each episode. BUT too much sex with Wernick Jr., yes, we realized that he is your central facboy, calm down 😅 I would rather look at Stychkin in this role 🙈
@skuzheleva: why didn't it happen, it's the same dialogue after the scene where Another jumped out into the corridor after Anton and Alina, and they sent him, they say, the third one is superfluous
In the first series, someone said that "people died", so there are several victims? One of them is Alina, if that's the case. And I also assume that there is a suicide of one of the characters in all this shooting.
Alina is such a quiet, balanced character with her rich inner world... It seems to me that this is the lightest person in the whole class and how upset I am now, realizing that she is the victim.. I look forward to the series every time, and in any case, the arrow will be revealed to us in the last or penultimate episode, and it seems to me unexpected.. I could be wrong. Maybe it's a male teacher whose family has fallen apart and is jealous of the headmistress's daughter.. Or maybe the daughter herself? How many questions and not a drop of an answer
Well, there clearly needs to be a psychological shot. A lover who has been dumped twice just doesn't give up. He'll come to the party, have a heart-to-heart talk with the shooter, and he'll go kill.
Oh my God, she decided to sleep with a child after all 🤦♀️ It's just a game, maybe I don't understand something, but how can anyone stand up to a child, no matter how rude he is?? He's zero! The cringe is absolute.
In general, the first episode, which did not go very far. There are very sad shots at the end, where Alina's mother dresses up, and then her parents are interrogated. Too much porn again, although not as much as in the fourth episode. Something a little bit about everyone and not really about anyone. I liked how the teachers brawled - first the psychologist with her lover, then the lover with her mother. Joyfully. But in general it is. I wonder how everything will get further into the plot, it seems to me that at the birthday party Alina should find out that her boyfriend is cheating on her. And I'm absolutely sure that the shooter must be one of the children, at least the one who is the suspect - because after "I took them to the theater, and they killed my daughter," well, how can it be a teacher?
@Koneko: It's not a big difference, but he's a teenager and she's an adult, they're in different categories. Plus, she works at school, how can students be perceived in this way at all.
Well, let's say 13 and 20, for example, the same age difference, is it like OK too? It's grooming damn.
@QueenOfGems: well, grooming is still completely different, despite the age difference and social statuses of teacher-student. Elena for Anton is not an authoritative adult who could influence the feelings and actions of a teenager. Moreover, she does not have such authority among the other students either. Anton is the initiator of their relationship. He completely controls the process, their degree of intimacy, and it is he who sets all the rules of the game. In addition, he is of legal age, he turned 18, this is not even the so-called age of consent.
@KateMilk: Grooming, I was talking about 13+20. Well, yes, it's not grooming right now - but what happens next? It didn't seem to me that he was in full control of the process when they talked at the end, after all, she has experience of relationships, and quite possibly more than he does. Well, let's see how the story unfolds there.
@QueenOfGems: >Grooming I was talking about 13+20 Aah, I'm sorry then.
But in my opinion, during their last conversation, the real balance of power is just clear. She begins to have romantic feelings for him, wants a relationship, which she talks about telling him. Anton not only refuses her, but also devalues her feelings when he asks, they say, wasn't it immediately clear that there was only sex between us? Although there were no agreements, they did not discuss it, and Anton behaved so interested in Elena that it could easily be mistaken for romantic feelings on his part. He quite consciously manipulates and uses it. In addition, Elena again has to take the humiliating role of a "mistress", because Anton has a relationship with Alina, whom he puts above and emphasizes that she cannot even be discussed with anyone. As a result, Elena remains upset, with tears in her eyes, and Anton is all tip-top)
@KateMilk: Well, actually yes, I agree. I was confused specifically by the moment when he asked at the end of the dialogue, "is that all our relationship is?" and she pretended that she was okay and said, "I'll think about it." I mean, yes, there were tears in her eyes, but it seemed to me that she wasn't in the mood to put up with it all again, like with the teacher, and got angry? Although I've reviewed it, and perhaps it can be interpreted the other way around, that she's just hiding her vulnerability, and "what, is everything between us now?" - it's Anton holding her on the hook so that the fish doesn't fall off.
In general, I now think that's why she fell for him, because he's young, and maybe in some part she hoped that he wouldn't be able to hurt her, because he hadn't learned how to be a scumbag yet. But I chose exactly the one who can.
@KateMilk: я не заметила с его стороны романтичного подкатывания. В конце так он и вовсе практически вынудил ее заплатить за помощь с шантажистом. Так что она просто инфантильна, раз повелась на малолетку и мажора. Без башки
I'm confused. And after which party does Alina disappear? The events of the first episode, when her parents were looking for her, and as a result she was sleeping at home
@fluffylook93: Anton invited everyone to that party when he first came to school, like to get to know everyone. And some time has passed before the birthday and the shooting.
@fluffylook93: Alina disappeared after a party in honor of Dr. Anton
They showed us three parties: 1. an acquaintance, after which a sex video is leaked, 2. Anton's birthday, when Alina disappeared, 3. the party where the shooter was
Is the psychologist really going to be a cuckoo? I'm still thinking about that stupid teacher. Like either he'll go "figure it out" or a psychologist will egg him on.
Well, she probably likes this kind of life. To be a lover, and as soon as she found a better one, then go to another. But then oh, the boomerang came back and now she's being used for sex
@Sayonara_Nirvana: Yes, where she likes, she doesn't know what she likes. She is being shaken like grass by the wind in a field, she is hanging back and forth. Her mother still controls every step, for sure she subconsciously does it to spite her mother: first, a married teacher at her mother's school, now a student in general - people with whom you can't, you can't, you never can - but at the same time she herself would never do it, she was just led by Anton's courtship, and the same thing with the teacher It was for sure.
@QueenOfGems: она с огромной тоской смотрит компанию школьников. Просто не выросла еще до взрослой жизни. Такое бывает. А уже надо соответствовать. С такой мамой может она вообще никогда не хулиганила и была пай-девочкой. Теперь добирает свое
I rarely write comments and rarely has this happened to TV shows lately, but I was very touched by the last minutes of the series. In addition to the fact that Alina really turned out to be very pleasant and one of the most worthy characters (but there is something tragic in such people, they are a little bit out of the world of everything, as something tragic has been prepared for them for a long time ... I don't know how to explain, to be honest) So, in addition to this, the frames themselves and her mother's eyes at the moment when she dresses her up and immediately after, already with tears, had a powerful effect I'm not guessing about the shooter, I think everything will be a little ambiguous with him. But the finale of this series is very hooked, which already gives the series at least a + point from me
In the end, when they first showed mom, then dad, I hoped so much that they were deliberately pulling and now they would show Alina during the interrogation, but alas...
Did everyone start to forget what happened between Anton and the Other during the threesome? Alina is a firebrand, so let's say for another and for a psychologist...
С одной стороны очень раздражает директор, которая лезет в личную жизнь своей дочери, хотя сама тоже не пример идеальной. А с другой стороны хочет как лучше для дочери(мужик то женат и с детьми, ну и правильно она сказала просто мудак). Антон который хочет увидеться на 2 стульях очень раздражает. С Алиной же все хорошо, зачем ему еще и психолог😕 Я думаю, что психолог как-то замешана в убийстве, ревнует Антона, хочет отношений(либо сама, либо кого-то на это натравила, вон с Алешкой как хорошо общалась). К Вадиму тоже конечно вопросики имеются, его разговор с Биланом о чем-то говорит. Д хотя тут у всех был какой-то мотив убить Алину. Не удивлюсь если будет как в 3 сезоне элиты Все будут прикрывать друг друга, но там он хотя бы заслуживал этого, а тут вообще ниче не понятно. Мама Алины, наверно после такого конкретно с ума сойдет и так женщина с алкоголем в нездоровых отношениях. «Я их в 5 классе в театр водила, а они мою дочь убили. Почему?»…🥺 Хочется уже поскорее узнать кто убийца и успокоиться.
Поздравляю всех с развитием сюжета! :DD Теперь мы хотя бы наверняка знаем, что Алина не выживет (большинство уже догадались, но все равно приятно, что в этой серии мы хоть куда-то двигаемся). Очень предвзято относилась к сериалу, но с удовольствием наблюдаю за новыми сериями. Приятная картинка, саундтреки подобраны отлично, хоть большинство песен и не в моем вкусе, в сериале они смотрятся органично.
А еще, допускаю, что Алина узнает о предательстве Антона, не важно от Другого, Билана или Лены, захочет покончить с собой, ей кто-то из ребят попробует помешать, будет борьба и в итоге Алину все равно застрелят. Испугаются, и в панике «придумают» стрелка. Вряд ли нам не называют имя стрелка ради сюжета. Думаю, стрелок еще не известен следствию
Я вспоминаю, как Вадим упал в бассейн в начале сериала, а Антон полез его вытаскивать, и подозреваю, что история закольцуется. Тот, кто на выпускном упал в бассейн и его не вытащили — снова Вадим. Стрелял, может, и не он, но такое чувство, что на него все спихнут, учитывая, что он наверняка тоже не жив.
На сцене в отделе где училка с Антоном разговаривала, я подумала что именно училка походу стреляла в Алину, в итоге походу так и выйдет. Не думала что Алину именно убьют
ох я плакала в конце серии, хотя Алина мне изначально не очень нравится. совершенно не понимаю поведение подружки Марка и почему им так много времени уделяют, как персонажи они какие то слабые, уж не она ли окажется стрелком, помню в первой серии их активно опрашивали
@a_delta: They're hiding something. They got confused in the testimony, who was standing where, most likely they weren't really together at the time of the murder. I think Mark is covering for Sonya, but what exactly did she do? She's hardly a murderer.
Штош Ставлю что стрелок Катя куда бы они там не уехали на мопеде слишком она хладнокровная + ревность к Алине в ней есть. Вадим странно себя ведет вокруг Антона. Ну и *роскомнадзор* Алины тоже допускаю. Психолог вылетела из игры кмк ее и так поломали со всех сторон. Тут вам и гиперопека, и шантаж, и абьюз. Марк и Соня, те тихони которые могут скрыться под конец. Мне кажется они скорее заметали следы чем, что то делали от этого оставили отпечатки.
I also think that Alina could have been pregnant, which is completely screwed up. According to the arrows, it is unclear whether Another and fat, or Katya with a greyhound (maybe their cuckoo flew off from drugs)
Сериал для взрослых, который показывает как трахаются 15-16 летнии школьники в алкоголе и наркоте... Причем не чего нового автор и его команда не придумали... Тема секса , наркотиков и прочего выдается нам за некий реализм... А суть то в чем... То что команда режиссера вмести с ним сами извроты... Для кого это... Можно подумать кроме этого не чего больше не существует... искрения дружба, приключения и.т.д.
@pskrab78: а мне кажется что сериал как раз рассчитан на аудиторию 15-20 лет. Сама школьная тема, сюжет, обилие секса. Про этом герои школьники какие-то все деревянные, нет харизмы. Как говорится имхо, но я пожалела, что начала смотреть сериал. Очень нудно и тяжело идет. Тема подростков и их жизни совсем не интересна. Просто уже интерес узнать концовку.
@pskrab78: вы мессендж сериала не считали. Пока вам хочется видеть приключения,розовых пони ,единорогов и верную дружбу в фильмах и сериалах, происходит в действительности то, или похожее на то,что в сериале. А главное, для неокрепших умов плакат АЛАРМ, ЕСЛИ У ТЕБЯ В ЖИЗНИ ХОТЬ ЧТО-ТО ИЗ ЭТОГО, ЗВОНИ И НЕ МОЛЧИ, это для тётей и дядей,чтоб вынули головы из опы, а для подростков, чтобы говорили хоть с кем-то о том,что их тревожит, хоть бы и с посторонним и анонимно. Вы же видели все, что ни в одной семье НЕТ КОННЕКТА между родителями и детьми.
Психолух, которая живёт с тираномамой, сексится с женатым придурком и тут же "изменяет" ему с подростком-учеником... Не профессионал, а ПРОФЕССИОНАЛИЩЕ.
In general, I like that at last the actors of the first echelon, who are being shoved into all the roles, are giving way to new faces. A curly-haired couple (lapushki), Bilan (a typical chubby guy) and Another (cute b/m-bit), a young sexy-Vernik (Petrov went on sabbatical, the holy place is never empty) And even Tovstoganova has a "daughter" of the type of teacher who is not afraid to show titi! Chic!
Everything is great, but since the first episodes, the music has been haunting me. It feels like they've created and bought a bunch of new songs and are now pushing them every 3 minutes. This turns what is happening into some kind of Mess. It would be better to buy some really good tracks, but otherwise leave the scenes without a sound or with a background melody without words. IMHO it would be much better
At the beginning of the series, Anton and Alina kissed in class, and then Alex and the Other showed such views. It was very.
Then the scene of the Other's sadness... It was nice. It's really sad. He is superfluous. Only Bilan understood him at once, and did not blame him for it.
Anton manipulates and plays on feelings. Obviously, there will be something on the release because of him. Behaves like a "king".
I feel sorry for Vadik and the Psychologist, thin, vulnerable, lonely. And the Darkness... It's a pity to look at him, how he hangs around Sonya, and she yells at him forever and humiliates him.
@Podarok16: I wouldn't really understand the reasons for this. It didn't even kill her that her sex was posted in the general chat. What could possibly upset her so much?
I like everything. I'll say it briefly) It's interesting and that's it. It's a pity that children push their parents away so much. So important, grown-up, cold. Mom, Dad, get off, don't bother. And the parents are not the most outright bad, but the children reject them all the time. But Katya loves her drunks. It's not very clear.
Discussion of the 6 episode of the 1 season Discuss this episode
111I hope there will be some kind of sharp turn and it will not be Another and not Bilan !
In any case, only they remain, who have not yet been shown during the interrogation.
Do you also notice these mistakes? There was something like that in the previous series, too
Very cool. The first series didn't come to me, but now it's gotten better with each episode.
BUT too much sex with Wernick Jr., yes, we realized that he is your central facboy, calm down 😅
I would rather look at Stychkin in this role 🙈
And I also assume that there is a suicide of one of the characters in all this shooting.
with her and I obviously don't think much of
her either
So he yelled from the gnome-gnome, who came out at the disassembly
So ridiculous and strange
It's just a game, maybe I don't understand something, but how can anyone stand up to a child, no matter how rude he is?? He's zero! The cringe is absolute.
In general, the first episode, which did not go very far. There are very sad shots at the end, where Alina's mother dresses up, and then her parents are interrogated. Too much porn again, although not as much as in the fourth episode. Something a little bit about everyone and not really about anyone.
I liked how the teachers brawled - first the psychologist with her lover, then the lover with her mother. Joyfully.
But in general it is.
I wonder how everything will get further into the plot, it seems to me that at the birthday party Alina should find out that her boyfriend is cheating on her.
And I'm absolutely sure that the shooter must be one of the children, at least the one who is the suspect - because after "I took them to the theater, and they killed my daughter," well, how can it be a teacher?
Well, let's say 13 and 20, for example, the same age difference, is it like OK too? It's grooming damn.
>Grooming I was talking about 13+20
Aah, I'm sorry then.
But in my opinion, during their last conversation, the real balance of power is just clear. She begins to have romantic feelings for him, wants a relationship, which she talks about telling him. Anton not only refuses her, but also devalues her feelings when he asks, they say, wasn't it immediately clear that there was only sex between us? Although there were no agreements, they did not discuss it, and Anton behaved so interested in Elena that it could easily be mistaken for romantic feelings on his part. He quite consciously manipulates and uses it. In addition, Elena again has to take the humiliating role of a "mistress", because Anton has a relationship with Alina, whom he puts above and emphasizes that she cannot even be discussed with anyone. As a result, Elena remains upset, with tears in her eyes, and Anton is all tip-top)
I was confused specifically by the moment when he asked at the end of the dialogue, "is that all our relationship is?" and she pretended that she was okay and said, "I'll think about it." I mean, yes, there were tears in her eyes, but it seemed to me that she wasn't in the mood to put up with it all again, like with the teacher, and got angry?
Although I've reviewed it, and perhaps it can be interpreted the other way around, that she's just hiding her vulnerability, and "what, is everything between us now?" - it's Anton holding her on the hook so that the fish doesn't fall off.
In general, I now think that's why she fell for him, because he's young, and maybe in some part she hoped that he wouldn't be able to hurt her, because he hadn't learned how to be a scumbag yet.
But I chose exactly the one who can.
They showed us three parties: 1. an acquaintance, after which a sex video is leaked, 2. Anton's birthday, when Alina disappeared, 3. the party where the shooter was
And the shooting happens on the last bell
Алина должна пропасть с вечеринки, когда был др Антона. Именно на нее она и собирается в конце серии
I'm still thinking about that stupid teacher.
Like either he'll go "figure it out" or a psychologist will egg him on.
Well, she probably likes this kind of life. To be a lover, and as soon as she found a better one, then go to another. But then oh, the boomerang came back and now she's being used for sex
So, in addition to this, the frames themselves and her mother's eyes at the moment when she dresses her up and immediately after, already with tears, had a powerful effect
I'm not guessing about the shooter, I think everything will be a little ambiguous with him.
But the finale of this series is very hooked, which already gives the series at least a + point from me
К Вадиму тоже конечно вопросики имеются, его разговор с Биланом о чем-то говорит. Д хотя тут у всех был какой-то мотив убить Алину. Не удивлюсь если будет как в 3 сезоне элиты
Все будут прикрывать друг друга, но там он хотя бы заслуживал этого, а тут вообще ниче не понятно. Мама Алины, наверно после такого конкретно с ума сойдет и так женщина с алкоголем в нездоровых отношениях. «Я их в 5 классе в театр водила, а они мою дочь убили. Почему?»…🥺
Хочется уже поскорее узнать кто убийца и успокоиться.
Очень предвзято относилась к сериалу, но с удовольствием наблюдаю за новыми сериями. Приятная картинка, саундтреки подобраны отлично, хоть большинство песен и не в моем вкусе, в сериале они смотрятся органично.
- я их класс в театр водила, а они мою дочь убили. Почему? (С)
Одна фраза, а сколько боли в словах и глазах Ольги 💔 Великолепна!
Тот, кто на выпускном упал в бассейн и его не вытащили — снова Вадим. Стрелял, может, и не он, но такое чувство, что на него все спихнут, учитывая, что он наверняка тоже не жив.
Не думала что Алину именно убьют
совершенно не понимаю поведение подружки Марка и почему им так много времени уделяют, как персонажи они какие то слабые, уж не она ли окажется стрелком, помню в первой серии их активно опрашивали
Ставлю что стрелок Катя куда бы они там не уехали на мопеде слишком она хладнокровная + ревность к Алине в ней есть.
Вадим странно себя ведет вокруг Антона.
Ну и *роскомнадзор* Алины тоже допускаю.
Психолог вылетела из игры кмк ее и так поломали со всех сторон.
Тут вам и гиперопека, и шантаж, и абьюз.
Марк и Соня, те тихони которые могут скрыться под конец.
Мне кажется они скорее заметали следы чем, что то делали от этого оставили отпечатки.
(Не могу найти и Шазам не распознаёт(:
Причем не чего нового автор и его команда не придумали...
Тема секса , наркотиков и прочего выдается нам за некий реализм...
А суть то в чем...
То что команда режиссера вмести с ним сами извроты...
Для кого это...
Можно подумать кроме этого не чего больше не существует... искрения дружба, приключения и.т.д.
Как говорится имхо, но я пожалела, что начала смотреть сериал. Очень нудно и тяжело идет. Тема подростков и их жизни совсем не интересна. Просто уже интерес узнать концовку.
Then the scene of the Other's sadness... It was nice. It's really sad. He is superfluous. Only Bilan understood him at once, and did not blame him for it.
Anton manipulates and plays on feelings. Obviously, there will be something on the release because of him. Behaves like a "king".
I feel sorry for Vadik and the Psychologist, thin, vulnerable, lonely. And the Darkness... It's a pity to look at him, how he hangs around Sonya, and she yells at him forever and humiliates him.
parents drinking heavily with their children is fine.